@Angry Shamrock Qaddafi claimed the Gulf of Sidra as part of Libyan territorial waters - a claim not recognized by any other nation. The US navy basically acts to guarantee freedom of the seas that facilitates world commerce. Your welcome world. The US did not sell weapons to Qaddafi.
Damn dude, that was sick. Actually got my blood pumping there for a bit! Killer recreation. Honestly felt like you were along for the ride. Awesome job.
USA, people can run there mouths all over the world, and I understand patriotism for one's own country, but please, don't start something with the USA that you can't finish. Because the USA will definitely do so.
I happened to be airborne not too far when this occurred doing communication relays between the carrier and aircraft near Libya. As a few hundred other sailors also have I have a copy of the gun camera view from both aircraft as well as the entire soundtrack. During a briefing with the four aviators in my flight briefing room we found out one interesting tidbit. When the second F-14 was trying to take a shot and there was a comment about taking the shot the pilot responded that he did not have a tone. Turns out he did not have a tone because the volume was too low. Right after you hear that comment there was a tone. This was when the volume turned up. While flying our mission my crew did not know what was happening rather close to us. When we returned to the carrier to land (take a trap), we heard on the radio where the F-14's asked for a flyby. Then they commented they wanted the flight deck to see the two aircraft that shot down the MiGs. That's when we knew something was up. The gun camera views were sent to Washington DC in the clear and were intercepted by CNN. This is how the world knew what happened well before it was officially announced. This is also why the audio/video became immediately unclassified and a lot of VCRs were capturing the audio/video from the CCTV.
@@tsparks4133 A key component in any battle or engagement are 'Rules of Engagement'. This is true for any military branch. In this case the ROE stated the F-14s were supposed to try to disengage with the MiGs. This occurs when you hear the pilot state they were turning 30 degrees one way then another. Right after they disengage you hear the pilot state that the MiGs had re-engaged them. There is a distance between the F-14s and aircraft carrier that also prompts the F-14s to engage. So we hear them talking about the disengagement and reengagement as well as the distance between F-14s and MiGs. To confuse the situation we hear Alpha Bravo, who is the Admiral commanding the battlegroup, state weapon status is 'yellow-hold'. Note that AB is an officer speaking whatever the Admiral says to say. The Admiral was not really on the radio. Timing of the weapon status was bad. We call that as throwing a hand-grenade into the cockpit. It causes a lot of unnecessary confusion. The ROE tells the pilots what to do without someone miles away not fully aware of the tactics and situation adding confusion to the situation. The engagement is a matter of minutes with lots of maneuvering and working up tactics to defend the battlegroup. The humous side of this part of the audio is that within seconds of AB saying 'yellow-hold' you hear Fox Two. This indicates a sparrow missile was just fired. It also tells you that the F-14s aircrew were following ROE and ignored the 'yellow-hold' radio message.
@@jamesjohnsen2021 That sounds plausible, thanks for the reply. You're likely aware ROE in later engagements were/are heavily controlled/dictated by E2 and AWACS. Of course, if someone fires, you're cleared hot in most cases.
I remember the air incident on TV must confess did wonder why this information was release to public. can I say sad that the F-14 remain in service only 7 years later. saw F-14s last airshow and departure from Cleveland Ohio Burke lakefront airport.
Not sure what kind of pilot you are/were James, but Salute! Retired US Army Infantry. You guys save a lot of lives and have brought hope in some pretty desparate moments.
I'm an old guy and have never seen anything like this. Held my breath and thought; "Damn... this is the real deal." Then when the missiles were launched I was so scared thinking that someone was about to die. Everything happens so darned fast and I couldn't believe that I was watching it. Terrific! Thanks for posting this. Man, I'm so proud of our pilots and all the crews that combine to make this possible. God Bless America.
I was Harpoon Online world Champion in the final Tournament. The Mig-23 is a joke lol. We could have smoked them 100, 40, and 10 miles out. Totally playing with them.
I listened to a recording from inside the CSC of an attack on Tan Son Nhut air base in Nam, with my sgt who was there. Being as I was K9, CSC heard from Kilo18 once at the beginning calling in attack, then he was gone. They even had to bomb the end of our own runway.
I'm not pilot, but it certainly sounds like the awacs/radar plane was very useful for the pilots, kind of like and artillery spotter on a hill with binoculars.
Yes, the E-2C could see the entire gulf area north to Italy, the entire Libyan coast and, all the airborne aircraft. The F-14s at Gypsy station, and the other two F-14s at camelot patrol station about 75 miles (plus) west at the Camelot patrol station!
I worked on Tomcats when I was in the Navy. I think it was the baddest ass fighter ever designed. They ozzed bad ass. I loved the way they “hunched” when they shot off the cat. When they were operating they gave the appearance of authority. Very intimidating to an adversary. And the jocks flew them as if they were an extension of their being. Add the Phoenix Missile and you’ve got pure heat! Great video! The F-14 Tomcat patch was a tomcat feline with two tails standing in a boxing ring leaning with one arm on the ropes. The motto underneath said, “Anytime Baby!”
@@GlennLC Last non-Iranian F14s were scrapped a few years ago. Probably so they couldn't be used as a bargaining chip. Sad fate for a piece of history. Hopefully Iran does the right think and gives theirs to museums if they survive to see the end of their service.
You can here the genuine excitement in the pilots voice. The graphic imagery really helps. Bravo to the author of this vid for a well choreographed documentary. Good Job :-)
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@@barrywhite9114 Gaddafi was a bloodthursty murderer. He died like a dog, like he deserved.
I'd have walked through hell wearing gasoline underwear to have been able to fly the F-14 Tomcat for my country. Those were some supersonic cans of whoop ass!
@@dalecrossman6835 No, but I found the only enlisted job on a combat aircraft and signed up! All from watching Top Gun.😂 I wanted to be a fighter pilot so bad! So I talked with a Navy recruiter and he told me I could become a SENSO operator on an S-3 Viking. So I did!
So your friend was an OS in CIC on the Air Module writing backwards? I was a Combat Air Crew Intel Photographers Mate on board the Nimitz, and did a few Med Deployments Post Lebanon Invasion by the Israelis.
You can hear the relief as the Tomcat crews keep repeating, "two good chutes". There was no ill will toward the Libyan pilots who had to obey orders or else.
I may have missed something, but I thought the order was weapons hold, and all of a sudden the guys lobbing missiles. Was there a green light to engage I missed or did the pilot take the initiative to engage? Just curious about the intercept protocol here.
@Spinikar Gypsy 207 took the initiative after being fucked with 5 times...he had enough after the bogies got within 20 miles, called out "Master Arm On" (justifiably). Then Closeout confirmed/concurred = "Good Light". (Meaning = Yeah, dude...this is ridiculous. Go for it. Kill these assholes.) Gypsy copies "Good Light" (Meaning = Cool... engaging.) ...and then it's showtime from that point on. I'm an ol' Tomcat plane captain & avionics tech.... I wouldn't bullshit you about my beloved F-14s. 😉
At the time, the rules of engagement specified at the F-14s would try to disengage with the enemy aircraft by turning at 30°. If they tried this maneuver three times, and the enemy aircraft continue to be aggressive, the F-14s were clear to fire. In this incident, the F-14s turn 2-3 times more than the ROE requirement, and as the MiGs closed the distance, they became a real threat to the Tomcats. The RIO launched the Sparrows from the backseat.
@@pietroferrari4279 More likely, killing a serviceman from another nation is a much bigger international incident than simply destroying their fighters.
Man, your work on this was first rate! I remember when this happened, I was about 13. I also remember the bombing of Libya back in 1986 under Reagan. Nice job with this, I subscribed to watch more of your vids.
@@johnanderson9494 yes I agree , but it was never intended to kill people in Britain . The bomb was timed to go off over the sea , but the plane was running 30 minutes late . Thatcher made bad karma by allowing the jets that bombed Gaddafis baby to take off from Britain and children got killed in Lockerbie . It disgusts me how children die because of Tory big-wig decisions .
Yeah, I loved that game. I used to play it over lan with my roommate who was taking pilot lessons.. He always beat my ass in dogfights, so I preferred when we'd co-op lol.
6:18 Closeout: "Say your Angels" Gypsy RIO: "I'm at Angels 5, nose up" Closeout: "No, HIS Angels!" Geez...how about getting your inquiry correct the first time out....as if it wasn't tense enough.
That was not "Closeout" asking for his altitude, it was his wingman Herm Cook in 202 that had lost sight of him and needed to insure vertical separation to avoid collision while maneuvering. Closeout would already know his altitude and wouldn't be asking. The two Tomcats were in and out of clouds and went into a vertical separation formation. It's not Hollywood, it's real life, and safety comes first.
@@xHamfistedx thanks for the additional context, of which I was not fully familiar with. I’m not completely clueless, though....I got winged at Whiting in 1995 and retired as an aviator in 2013. Definitely understand that information can quickly go sideways in an intense operating environment. Accurate, Bold, and Concise should be what we’re always striving for...
@@elymayer4860 Well then, 202 should've asked the correct question the first time right ? Instead of asking "Say your angels". I can't remember now, but I think he just wanted to make sure Collins (his RIO) was targeting the correct aircraft.
I was onboard the U.S.S. John F. Kennedy (CV-67) that day. We went to general quarters and watched it live from the F-14 video. That was an intense sequence of events.
Did the fleet feel threatened too or just the TomCats? I don't remember the political situation - but I was in the 5th Grade and this was my current events report. I would (much later) fly as an ABM on AWACS
If you watch Ward Carroll video the former RIO on an F-14 on this incident he basically was saying Collins the RIO was trigger happy. Launching the second sparrow before the first lost radar tone. Basically saying Collins was sloppy. Then RIO Enright was telling his pilot Cook to switch to Sidewinder meaning FOX 2 meaning it was still in Sparrow mode. Then Cook got the message and switched to Sidewinder. So as Ward said the view changed to HUD mode which you hear that buzzing noise meaning the Sidewinder has a heat signature for you to fire your Sidewinder.
@whocares notme because he was actual flew inside the F-14's. Was actually a RIO officer like Goose in Top Gun. So this guy actually SERVED in the Navy during the time of this battle. So War Carroll knows what he is talking about.
I live in a rather rural area. Last month I was driving by regional airport here (out in the country) and I saw a fighter jet ready for takeoff. I was going about 60 mph when I passed it, sitting on the runway about 100 yds. from the highway. Hey, we are way out in the country here. Not something you see often, although since we have an extremely long runway (alternate runway for the Space Shuttle), you see some interesting things doing touch and go's. I immediately turned around in the middle of the highway and went back to see what the heck that was! I first thought it was an F-111, being swing-wing and a high single tail, but it had double exhaust - and besides, there are no F-111's in operation anymore, as far as I have found. I later found it was a Mig-23. Olive green, no markings that I recall. Somebody else had seen it take off from the same airport a couple of weeks before and taken a picture. So apparently there is a Mig-23 residing in backwoods East Texas and someone is flying it fairly often!
if you're sure it had dual exhausts then it wasn't a mig23 which has one engine. and if it wasn't an f111 then it was probably an su-24 which looks almost identical to an aardvark.
ya the Russians improved on it rather quickly with the Mig - 27 version of the same plane, and immediately sold it to their customers (the Mig - 23 that is), so it's completely plausible that someone with a lot of maintenance money might be able to acquire a vintage plane like that
@@devildogcrewchief3335Yes, I think and believe that the MiG-27 is a ground-attack aircraft version of the original MiG-23 Flogger from the Cold War and the USSR, but I don't really know what it is, what variant of the OG MiG-23 it is based on and some or many others though.
Yes bro you are right. Actually man inside the cockpit which matters. It is not just that you have a better aircraft. Watch this link below twill end and then you would come to know what actually had happened on 27th Feb 2019 between IAF and PAF... ruclips.net/video/zOyqgxPuIUw/видео.html
And here we see a prime example of the best communication ever between the flight crew of an F-14... RIO "Fox 1! Fox 1" Pilot "Ah, Jesus!" The Pilots reaction to an unexpected missile being fired from his plane was just perfect and makes me laugh every time. Great job on the reenactment and thank you for superimposing the real audio. Really captured the chaos and intensity of the fight.
I worked for Hughes Aircraft building the radar systems for the F-14, F-15 and F-18. I came in one day after this incident and they gathered everyone in the F-14 bay. As soon as we walked in someone had painted a large score board on the wall next to the F-14 Tomcat shoulder patch symbol that said USA 2 - Libya 0. They then proceeded to show us the gun footage along with the audio of the encounter. I had a freedom boner all day long!
IWORKED AT MC CLULLEN, AFB NO SAC, F~18S AND SEVERAL OTHER MODELS, WE BUILT A "PLASTIC MEDIA BLASTER," ON RUNWAY, I STOPPED,ATTENDING DRAG RACES~YEA, IT WAS THAT GOOD~
"I had a freedom boner all day long!" I'm not surprised. Two aircraft taking off in northern Africa must pose an amazingly dangerous threat to the USA. Good job your guys could take them out, and thank god that "freedom" means we all know about it. Although I wonder if anyone would have been told if the Libyan planes had got a couple of lucky shots in first...... probably not, but, hey, they didn't, and that's all that matters. Hurrah!
I was there, my squadron was HS-7, the helicopter squadron for the ship during that med cruise, I worked in the Airframe shop at the time, I remember this day, like it was yesterday! Proud to be a Navy Veteran 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸
No body gives a fuck you murdering piece of shit.The entire Libyan fairy tale was made up...IRAN and SYRIA were behind 103 bombing.....in retaliation for the good ole US Of Arrogant Assholes shooting down an Iranian passenger plane...with NO remorse or NO apologies for that crime.Libya was taken out because of its oil,and the refusal to follow the corrupt criminal Yankee Petrodollar Scam.Its time the rest of the world banded together and wiped the vile plaque and filth and scum known as the US off the earth.There is no more evil pile of shit on the planet.
Your vets are murderous slime ridden filth...and should all be led to a slow painful death....The US military has only been in ONE justified battle in its history.....Grenada.All the rest were bullshit
That incident involved 2 Tomcats from Fitron 41 (VF 41 Black Aces) From NAS Oceana and deployed onboard USS Nimitz. It happened actually on August 19, 1981.
Doesn't hurt that the "enemy" were there for nothing but posturing and likely weren't even packing armament (that second part is a guess based on no attempt to return fire when attacked.)
In a case like this, where you shoot down a plane and see the parachutes, do your side make a recovery attempt for the downed pilots, or do they leave them for their side to pick them up?
Depends on the circumstances. Libya was in a state of turmoil at that time and probably had no plans or capability of recuing their pilots, which the U.S. pilots would have known.
I could imagine that the Libyan Air Force saw the two F-14’s and said “remember the 1981 shoot down that we lost to, well it looks like it’s time for a rematch”
seeing all your months of training coming into reality that could potentially take your life and seeing those migs trying to head onto you in a provocative/intentional manner.. yes, i'd probably get nervous..
IF I could travel time, I wouldnt return as a millionaire - I'd come back as a combat pilot flying the top tech in the world. What a pleasure and thrill! Thank you for your service!
Usually from a goofup, or something funny about them in general. Munster could be that he looked like that, his name was Herman, or it could be 'Muenster' for the cheese. Either because he smelled like cheese, or because he always put that on sandwiches when he could. 'The World May Never Know.'
@@matthaeusprime6343 True. Watch "Carrier" on yt. A rookie's first cat launch in an F-18 off the ship and the rookie said I screamed like a girl. His nickname became SLAG (S creamed L ike A G irl)
Do y’all know how much we pray for you? Cheer for YOU? Appreciate you and your families? I’m amazed at our great military, constantly spoke of you to our children and thankful beyond words for the immeasurable sacrifice. You should also know - we mourn and hurt with you too. I’m in awe watching this. Thank you!
Well, you also have to remember that they're performing high g turns. So yes, there stress level on their body, as well as the mental stress is going to increase
@@devilshaircut9 Not odd at all. Flight level only starts at 18k feet and above. For example, there's no such thing as FL120. The correct call in that case would be "1 2 thousand".
Those Migs never had their missile directing radars turned on. Imagine being the Libyan squadron commander, knowing that "El Supremo" had ordered you to send your guys in to sacrifice themselves for an ignorant, wishful thinking. political miscalculation
I was on the kitty hawk during G1 and happened to be in CIC when we had a pair break the 23rd parallel. Dude, you heat the stress on these guys and your heart is jumping out of your chest with them. This shit gets real. But G1 (and before because this was at the end of my 13 years before I was 100%ed disabled) forever endeared the F14 as the baddest ass plane ever to me.
The ship calls out condition 'yellow' hold, while the opposing force more than 6 times takes a collision course!? Obviously those pilots were saying nuts to that.
"Warning yellow, weapons hold." The quick research I grabbed says that "warning yellow" means there is an imminent threat posed to the battle group. "Weapons hold" is a reminder that peacetime ROE (rules of engagement) still apply. Technically they were not cleared to fire, as the order was not "weapons free". ROE in peacetime, to my knowledge, is hostile act (do not fire unless fired upon), not hostile intent, which was what those Floggers were doing by jinking into them. Hope this helps you out. Prayin' I got this right. [Edit: Floggers, not Fitters.]
Did the F14 pilot decide to shoot on his own? I never heard them get the green light from weapons yellow hold.......might have missed some of the nomenclature
Mig 15s are interceptors not fighters! They went for the B29s. When they brought out the 17 it was not just a problem for the F 86s of Taiwan but for even the F4s over Vietnam!
Actually, there was a second flight of two Libyan fighter and they were forty plus miles behind the first two MiG-23MFs but, they turned around and returned to their base. They never posed threat to the F-14s.
One thing that came out of this dogfight was, the was entirely to much communication and confusion by all involved! Look at the videos of dogfights from the Persian Gulf War, there was far less communications between the US pilots involved in the dogfights.
Thank you The Doge-Emperor of Dogekind for letting me know I mixed up Enwright and Collins.
@Angry Shamrock Qaddafi claimed the Gulf of Sidra as part of Libyan territorial waters - a claim not recognized by any other nation. The US navy basically acts to guarantee freedom of the seas that facilitates world commerce. Your welcome world. The US did not sell weapons to Qaddafi.
@The Doge-Emperor of Dogekind pou eisai re malaka!
he just gave another order ..to SHOOT down the boats...lool
fn idiots.
@@Barkhorn11 Meh... Just like ancient Rome back in the day... we just need an excuse to go fight someone somewhere...
@@biggee316 Agreed. And shit stain countries like Libya have no business picking fights with Rome.
Do you have real footage from the event?
Damn dude, that was sick. Actually got my blood pumping there for a bit! Killer recreation. Honestly felt like you were along for the ride. Awesome job.
I jutst wanted to PULL something .. like a break..
So much like a video game.... well except for the GeForce and the realism of getting shot down or killed. Oh ya and you get a pay check.
USA, people can run there mouths all over the world, and I understand patriotism for one's own country, but please, don't start something with the USA that you can't finish. Because the USA will definitely do so.
@@w.allencaddell6421 f14 they never operated in Libya.
except that the karba was well equipped awacs + f14 ... bicycle vs motorcycle
After all these years, the F14 is still one of the best looking birds out there.
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This engagement was one of the first news stories I remember from being a kid in the 80s. Nice work!
@Angry Shamrock I meant the animation.
Ditto. I was 12 and this was definitely a big story that I remember from the time.
Hey this was very well done. Thank you
"This is Eagle 1 Splash the Zeros, I repeat Splash the Zeros"
Great movie!
This is the best audio and visuals I've seen of this engagement. Thank You
its a game
I happened to be airborne not too far when this occurred doing communication relays between the carrier and aircraft near Libya. As a few hundred other sailors also have I have a copy of the gun camera view from both aircraft as well as the entire soundtrack. During a briefing with the four aviators in my flight briefing room we found out one interesting tidbit. When the second F-14 was trying to take a shot and there was a comment about taking the shot the pilot responded that he did not have a tone. Turns out he did not have a tone because the volume was too low. Right after you hear that comment there was a tone. This was when the volume turned up.
While flying our mission my crew did not know what was happening rather close to us. When we returned to the carrier to land (take a trap), we heard on the radio where the F-14's asked for a flyby. Then they commented they wanted the flight deck to see the two aircraft that shot down the MiGs. That's when we knew something was up.
The gun camera views were sent to Washington DC in the clear and were intercepted by CNN. This is how the world knew what happened well before it was officially announced. This is also why the audio/video became immediately unclassified and a lot of VCRs were capturing the audio/video from the CCTV.
Did the 14's have authorization to fire? Seems the audio had them in a "yellow-hold" from Alpha Bravo.
@@tsparks4133 A key component in any battle or engagement are 'Rules of Engagement'. This is true for any military branch. In this case the ROE stated the F-14s were supposed to try to disengage with the MiGs. This occurs when you hear the pilot state they were turning 30 degrees one way then another. Right after they disengage you hear the pilot state that the MiGs had re-engaged them. There is a distance between the F-14s and aircraft carrier that also prompts the F-14s to engage. So we hear them talking about the disengagement and reengagement as well as the distance between F-14s and MiGs.
To confuse the situation we hear Alpha Bravo, who is the Admiral commanding the battlegroup, state weapon status is 'yellow-hold'. Note that AB is an officer speaking whatever the Admiral says to say. The Admiral was not really on the radio. Timing of the weapon status was bad. We call that as throwing a hand-grenade into the cockpit. It causes a lot of unnecessary confusion. The ROE tells the pilots what to do without someone miles away not fully aware of the tactics and situation adding confusion to the situation. The engagement is a matter of minutes with lots of maneuvering and working up tactics to defend the battlegroup.
The humous side of this part of the audio is that within seconds of AB saying 'yellow-hold' you hear Fox Two. This indicates a sparrow missile was just fired. It also tells you that the F-14s aircrew were following ROE and ignored the 'yellow-hold' radio message.
@@jamesjohnsen2021 That sounds plausible, thanks for the reply. You're likely aware ROE in later engagements were/are heavily controlled/dictated by E2 and AWACS. Of course, if someone fires, you're cleared hot in most cases.
I remember the air incident on TV must confess did wonder why this information was release to public. can I say sad that the F-14 remain in service only 7 years later. saw F-14s last airshow and departure from Cleveland Ohio Burke lakefront airport.
Not sure what kind of pilot you are/were James, but Salute! Retired US Army Infantry. You guys save a lot of lives and have brought hope in some pretty desparate moments.
I was aboard the USS John F. Kennedy CV-67 that day. Got a Meritorious Unit Commendation for this battle.
what unit?
Obadiah Kilgore I was in the Admin Dept, X-3, working for the CMC. And my repair locker was 7Bravo and I was the lead medical stretcher bearer.
Good job. Go U.SA.!
@Bob Smithereens really? Grow up.
nfair.
I'm an old guy and have never seen anything like this. Held my breath and thought; "Damn... this is the real deal." Then when the missiles were launched I was so scared thinking that someone was about to die.
Everything happens so darned fast and I couldn't believe that I was watching it.
Terrific! Thanks for posting this.
Man, I'm so proud of our pilots and all the crews that combine to make this possible.
God Bless America.
I was Harpoon Online world Champion in the final Tournament. The Mig-23 is a joke lol. We could have smoked them 100, 40, and 10 miles out. Totally playing with them.
I don't know how old you are Chuck, but sometimes I wonder what kind of shit we will have when I am in my 60's or 70's.
@judas crim Learn to spell Judas, and God bless.
DCS is a jet aircraft combat computer simulation (game) You're doing almost as much at the joystick and keyboard as a real pilot in the cockpit.
@@hortons1967 I did the original artwork for the first paper and dice version of that game. You'll see they misspelled my name.
special thanks 4 showing .hearing and seeing is so so pleasure 4 me
respect for the editing and recreation, this was good to watch
This is the BEST video on this encounter between the F-14As and the two Lybian MiG-23MFs that I have seen!
Yeah, today's animations are way better than they've ever been. This video had me fooled at the very beginning.
That was super intense, I've never heard actual combat chatter, simply amazing!
youtube B-52 strike Viet Nam Radio chatter
Sitting on the edge on my bed and damn near fell off! The Big Dawgs taking care of business 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
I listened to a recording from inside the CSC of an attack on Tan Son Nhut air base in Nam, with my sgt who was there. Being as I was K9, CSC heard from Kilo18 once at the beginning calling in attack, then he was gone. They even had to bomb the end of our own runway.
Great job guys!!! Thank you so much for your bravery, expertise and dam good shooting!!
Wow, the audio makes so much more sense with this, thank you for doing this! This is awesome!
This is the first video of the action where I can follow the dialog due to the graphics. Thank you for that.
I'm not pilot, but it certainly sounds like the awacs/radar plane was very useful for the pilots, kind of like and artillery spotter on a hill with binoculars.
Yes, the E-2C could see the entire gulf area north to Italy, the entire Libyan coast and, all the airborne aircraft. The F-14s at Gypsy station, and the other two F-14s at camelot patrol station about 75 miles (plus) west at the Camelot patrol station!
yep...that's what they do. outstanding coordination
I worked on Tomcats when I was in the Navy. I think it was the baddest ass fighter ever designed. They ozzed bad ass. I loved the way they “hunched” when they shot off the cat. When they were operating they gave the appearance of authority. Very intimidating to an adversary. And the jocks flew them as if they were an extension of their being. Add the Phoenix Missile and you’ve got pure heat! Great video! The F-14 Tomcat patch was a tomcat feline with two tails standing in a boxing ring leaning with one arm on the ropes. The motto underneath said, “Anytime Baby!”
SO BADASS! SUPER PROFESSIONAL! USA!
Is the Tomcat still in service?
@@GlennLC Last non-Iranian F14s were scrapped a few years ago. Probably so they couldn't be used as a bargaining chip. Sad fate for a piece of history. Hopefully Iran does the right think and gives theirs to museums if they survive to see the end of their service.
I thought it was real video footage until I saw the hit. Excellent job! 👌🏻
How have i only just found your channel? Epic mate.....just epic, carry on....
Super vid, very well done! The only note of critique I would add, is that the radome on the E2-C turns about half the speed depicted here. Great job!
This was crazy intense. There's something about a real event with real footage(audio) that totally trumps movie dramatizations.
really?
Libya is Dry Desert Wasteland. Muammar Gaddafi was Good to his Countrymen! Get Thee Hence Synagogue of Satan. Thou Shalt Not Kill!
You can here the genuine excitement in the pilots voice. The graphic imagery really helps. Bravo to the author of this vid for a well choreographed documentary. Good Job :-)
@@barrywhite9114 Gaddafi was a bloodthursty murderer. He died like a dog, like he deserved.
Breathing becomes audible.
I'd have walked through hell wearing gasoline underwear to have been able to fly the F-14 Tomcat for my country. Those were some supersonic cans of whoop ass!
You to huh?
i guess those weren't the qualifications requirements then I take it?
@@dalecrossman6835 No, but I found the only enlisted job on a combat aircraft and signed up!
All from watching Top Gun.😂 I wanted to be a fighter pilot so bad!
So I talked with a Navy recruiter and he told me I could become a SENSO operator on an S-3 Viking. So I did!
this was better than watching it on Discovery. I had better awareness of what actually happened here. Love this reenactment.
I liked it. I applaud your editing.
SPLASH TWO! Nice job gentlemen! THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE!
epic, knew someone would make a DCS recreation of this famous incident, I mean hell, the audio is sampled in falcon 4.
My good friend was in a U.S. navy ship near Libya( in a radar room) during this event.
Mos Kito k
@Mos Kito Isn't politics why any member of the military dies?
@Mos Kito so?
So your friend was an OS in CIC on the Air Module writing backwards?
I was a Combat Air Crew Intel Photographers Mate
on board the Nimitz, and did a few Med Deployments Post Lebanon Invasion by the Israelis.
"What's my vector, Victor?"
"Got clearance, Clarence."
"Roger, Roger."
I'm going to have to use that. Lol
Airplane reference??🧐
Yes!
"Surely you can't be serious!"
"I *am* serious - and don't call me Shirley!"
@@michaelarnold417 such a classic
Roger Over
Over Done
Yo dash99er, great video.... Very nice work.
Very nice recreation! Chilling, even. Thanks!
The Libyan pilots just wanted a polaroid with Maverick and Goose
@MJW That's a beautiful polaroid of MJW :)
They were inverted...
@@ginamathews2338 down
@@VenturiLife invert me
@MJW .......Yes,it is! A Beauty.
You can hear the relief as the Tomcat crews keep repeating, "two good chutes". There was no ill will toward the Libyan pilots who had to obey orders or else.
I may have missed something, but I thought the order was weapons hold, and all of a sudden the guys lobbing missiles. Was there a green light to engage I missed or did the pilot take the initiative to engage? Just curious about the intercept protocol here.
@Spinikar
Gypsy 207 took the initiative after being fucked with 5 times...he had enough after the bogies got within 20 miles, called out "Master Arm On" (justifiably).
Then Closeout confirmed/concurred = "Good Light". (Meaning = Yeah, dude...this is ridiculous. Go for it. Kill these assholes.)
Gypsy copies "Good Light" (Meaning = Cool... engaging.)
...and then it's showtime from that point on.
I'm an ol' Tomcat plane captain & avionics tech.... I wouldn't bullshit you about my beloved F-14s. 😉
At the time, the rules of engagement specified at the F-14s would try to disengage with the enemy aircraft by turning at 30°. If they tried this maneuver three times, and the enemy aircraft continue to be aggressive, the F-14s were clear to fire. In this incident, the F-14s turn 2-3 times more than the ROE requirement, and as the MiGs closed the distance, they became a real threat to the Tomcats. The RIO launched the Sparrows from the backseat.
I have finally found the Growling Sidewinder intro audio lol
Excellent job of syncing the simulation to the audio! It was about as close as I'd like to be to actually being there.... LOL
Yeah don't use the Microsoft video editor.
It's nice that they are happy to see parachutes from the enemy pilots
I think that fighter pilots just want to see which one of them is best, they don't want to kill eachother
@@pietroferrari4279 More likely, killing a serviceman from another nation is a much bigger international incident than simply destroying their fighters.
@@jsimmons12they drowned in the ocean …
The Tomcat is the coolest fighter ever. It’s like a Tiger 1. Timeless.
This was crazy. I remember when it happened! Go Navy!!!
Nice recreation bro....liked and subbed! Well done!
What's the best most realistic flight simulator game made today? Anyone?
The recreation was absolutely impressive! You could be a director given how you expertly combined audio with images!
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Man, your work on this was first rate! I remember when this happened, I was about 13. I also remember the bombing of Libya back in 1986 under Reagan. Nice job with this, I subscribed to watch more of your vids.
The Libya bombing resulted in a Pan Am747 full of civilians getting bombed in retaliation.
@@johnanderson9494 yes I agree , but it was never intended to kill people in Britain . The bomb was timed to go off over the sea , but the plane was running 30 minutes late . Thatcher made bad karma by allowing the jets that bombed Gaddafis baby to take off from Britain and children got killed in Lockerbie . It disgusts me how children die because of Tory big-wig decisions .
That was so heart pumping, then you hear fox 1, surreal, good kill, finally exhale... Damn. Nerves of diamond those guys
I heard this audio in the early 90s.
You did such a good job with this. Just wow.
Excellent work.
Awesome recreation. Well DONE sir!
The audio from this encounter was incorporated into the music of the old Falcon 4.0 game’s main menu. I recognised it because I played the game 😉
Yeah, I loved that game. I used to play it over lan with my roommate who was taking pilot lessons.. He always beat my ass in dogfights, so I preferred when we'd co-op lol.
I say thee nay There is Falcon 4 BMS which is a modded version of the old game for running on current systems with Win 10. Go google it!
@@woiace Yup! And don't call it a "game" ever again ;) It's a sim ;)
@@jakobole Yes of course! Thanks 😅
@@woiace Now, don't do it again ;) Have a nice day sir, from F4 callsign "VIP"
6:18 Closeout: "Say your Angels"
Gypsy RIO: "I'm at Angels 5, nose up"
Closeout: "No, HIS Angels!"
Geez...how about getting your inquiry correct the first time out....as if it wasn't tense enough.
That was not "Closeout" asking for his altitude, it was his wingman Herm Cook in 202 that had lost sight of him and needed to insure vertical separation to avoid collision while maneuvering. Closeout would already know his altitude and wouldn't be asking. The two Tomcats were in and out of clouds and went into a vertical separation formation. It's not Hollywood, it's real life, and safety comes first.
@@xHamfistedx thanks for the additional context, of which I was not fully familiar with. I’m not completely clueless, though....I got winged at Whiting in 1995 and retired as an aviator in 2013. Definitely understand that information can quickly go sideways in an intense operating environment. Accurate, Bold, and Concise should be what we’re always striving for...
@@xHamfistedx If 202 wanted to know 207 altitude, he wouldn’t have corrected him “no, his angels.”
@@elymayer4860 Well then, 202 should've asked the correct question the first time right ? Instead of asking "Say your angels". I can't remember now, but I think he just wanted to make sure Collins (his RIO) was targeting the correct aircraft.
@@xHamfistedx yes. The exchange started off confused
I was onboard the U.S.S. John F. Kennedy (CV-67) that day. We went to general quarters and watched it live from the F-14 video. That was an intense sequence of events.
Did the fleet feel threatened too or just the TomCats? I don't remember the political situation - but I was in the 5th Grade and this was my current events report. I would (much later) fly as an ABM on AWACS
One of the coolest damn videos on ytube. Very well done, sir!
If you watch Ward Carroll video the former RIO on an F-14 on this incident he basically was saying Collins the RIO was trigger happy. Launching the second sparrow before the first lost radar tone. Basically saying Collins was sloppy.
Then RIO Enright was telling his pilot Cook to switch to Sidewinder meaning FOX 2 meaning it was still in Sparrow mode. Then Cook got the message and switched to Sidewinder. So as Ward said the view changed to HUD mode which you hear that buzzing noise meaning the Sidewinder has a heat signature for you to fire your Sidewinder.
@whocares notme because he was actual flew inside the F-14's. Was actually a RIO officer like Goose in Top Gun. So this guy actually SERVED in the Navy during the time of this battle. So War Carroll knows what he is talking about.
I didn't know they got that close to each other. Man that was wild. Good work. Ct/tx
I live in a rather rural area. Last month I was driving by regional airport here (out in the country) and I saw a fighter jet ready for takeoff. I was going about 60 mph when I passed it, sitting on the runway about 100 yds. from the highway. Hey, we are way out in the country here. Not something you see often, although since we have an extremely long runway (alternate runway for the Space Shuttle), you see some interesting things doing touch and go's. I immediately turned around in the middle of the highway and went back to see what the heck that was! I first thought it was an F-111, being swing-wing and a high single tail, but it had double exhaust - and besides, there are no F-111's in operation anymore, as far as I have found. I later found it was a Mig-23. Olive green, no markings that I recall. Somebody else had seen it take off from the same airport a couple of weeks before and taken a picture. So apparently there is a Mig-23 residing in backwoods East Texas and someone is flying it fairly often!
if you're sure it had dual exhausts then it wasn't a mig23 which has one engine. and if it wasn't an f111 then it was probably an su-24 which looks almost identical to an aardvark.
ya the Russians improved on it rather quickly with the Mig - 27 version of the same plane, and immediately sold it to their customers (the Mig - 23 that is), so it's completely plausible that someone with a lot of maintenance money might be able to acquire a vintage plane like that
@@daviddriver4716 Wasn't the MIG-27 the ground attack version of the MIG-23?
@@devildogcrewchief3335Yes, I think and believe that the MiG-27 is a ground-attack aircraft version of the original MiG-23 Flogger from the Cold War and the USSR, but I don't really know what it is, what variant of the OG MiG-23 it is based on and some or many others though.
Excellent Video!
Yes bro you are right. Actually man inside the cockpit which matters. It is not just that you have a better aircraft. Watch this link below twill end and then you would come to know what actually had happened on 27th Feb 2019 between IAF and PAF...
ruclips.net/video/zOyqgxPuIUw/видео.html
Liked and subbed 👍🏻 great stuff 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
wow nice, thanks for that!
And here we see a prime example of the best communication ever between the flight crew of an F-14...
RIO "Fox 1! Fox 1"
Pilot "Ah, Jesus!"
The Pilots reaction to an unexpected missile being fired from his plane was just perfect and makes me laugh every time. Great job on the reenactment and thank you for superimposing the real audio. Really captured the chaos and intensity of the fight.
Not sure it was "unexpected", more like "Ah, Jesus... (this just got REAL!)". As in, somebody's about to get shot down.
@@MShrader211 I thought what you thought too. Someone's gonna get hurt! 🛫🚀🚀🛩💥💤
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That was not unexpected, that is why he called out Fox 1! Fox 1!
@@MShrader211 more like he had to tighten up his jock strap for the g's his balls where gonna pull
@Nada Flex Agreed
I worked for Hughes Aircraft building the radar systems for the F-14, F-15 and F-18. I came in one day after this incident and they gathered everyone in the F-14 bay. As soon as we walked in someone had painted a large score board on the wall next to the F-14 Tomcat shoulder patch symbol that said USA 2 - Libya 0. They then proceeded to show us the gun footage along with the audio of the encounter. I had a freedom boner all day long!
Cool beans man
IWORKED AT MC CLULLEN, AFB NO SAC, F~18S AND SEVERAL OTHER MODELS, WE BUILT A "PLASTIC MEDIA BLASTER," ON RUNWAY, I STOPPED,ATTENDING DRAG RACES~YEA, IT WAS THAT GOOD~
freedom boner. lol
@@captainnutsack8151 i see....
"I had a freedom boner all day long!"
I'm not surprised. Two aircraft taking off in northern Africa must pose an amazingly dangerous threat to the USA. Good job your guys could take them out, and thank god that "freedom" means we all know about it. Although I wonder if anyone would have been told if the Libyan planes had got a couple of lucky shots in first...... probably not, but, hey, they didn't, and that's all that matters. Hurrah!
This was AWESOME!!!!! Some Top-Gun $hit!!!!!
Nice job on this. Had me on the edge of my seat.
Nice reenactment! Thanks for making this...
"who's up there?
cougar, merlin, maverick and goose.... ""
Maverick bro!😎
“Great... Maverick and goose...”
Oh shit... I missed!!!
GODDAMN IT MAVERICK!
@@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg the fly by lmao 😎
Wow..this makes "Top Gun" look tame. The real deal Holyfield.
In the space of 50 yrs, dog-fights went from being up close and personal with your opponent, to firing a missile at them when they are 13 miles away
Wow. Great Video.
Great Video! Great work there!
Major part of Libyan pilot training; swimming lessons!
Lol
and using diarreas as a flotation device.
Go To Hell
1 Libyan pilot dead, 1 went swimming
And be ready to defend your country against US hegemony
I was there, my squadron was HS-7, the helicopter squadron for the ship during that med cruise, I worked in the Airframe shop at the time, I remember this day, like it was yesterday! Proud to be a Navy Veteran 🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸
Richard...WE are very "proud" of you and all our vets!
Thank you for your service!! Proud of ALL military folks...
No body gives a fuck you murdering piece of shit.The entire Libyan fairy tale was made up...IRAN and SYRIA were behind 103 bombing.....in retaliation for the good ole US Of Arrogant Assholes shooting down an Iranian passenger plane...with NO remorse or NO apologies for that crime.Libya was taken out because of its oil,and the refusal to follow the corrupt criminal Yankee Petrodollar Scam.Its time the rest of the world banded together and wiped the vile plaque and filth and scum known as the US off the earth.There is no more evil pile of shit on the planet.
Your vets are murderous slime ridden filth...and should all be led to a slow painful death....The US military has only been in ONE justified battle in its history.....Grenada.All the rest were bullshit
That incident involved 2 Tomcats from Fitron 41 (VF 41 Black Aces) From NAS Oceana and deployed onboard USS Nimitz. It happened actually on August 19, 1981.
The best aircrafts and the best pilots will produce the victorious results
Doesn't hurt that the "enemy" were there for nothing but posturing and likely weren't even packing armament (that second part is a guess based on no attempt to return fire when attacked.)
In a case like this, where you shoot down a plane and see the parachutes, do your side make a recovery attempt for the downed pilots, or do they leave them for their side to pick them up?
Depends on the circumstances. Libya was in a state of turmoil at that time and probably had no plans or capability of recuing their pilots, which the U.S. pilots would have known.
I could imagine that the Libyan Air Force saw the two F-14’s and said “remember the 1981 shoot down that we lost to, well it looks like it’s time for a rematch”
Man the audio conveys the nervousness of the situation doesnt it?
"I can't get a Fucking Tone" vs Top Gun.
seeing all your months of training coming into reality that could potentially take your life and seeing those migs trying to head onto you in a provocative/intentional manner.. yes, i'd probably get nervous..
IF I could travel time, I wouldnt return as a millionaire - I'd come back as a combat pilot flying the top tech in the world. What a pleasure and thrill! Thank you for your service!
So you'd rather be a fighter pilot than a millionaire?? 🤔😆
@@RellyOhBoy any day of the week
These guys are SUPER AWESOME
Very nice Work !!! :)
Great post, thanks for sharing this.
"I could have been called Maverick or Iceman but noooo...I get the name Munster" - Pilot
His real name is probably Herman. Munster sounds much cooler.
I don't think they get to pick their names, their buddies pick it for them.
Usually from a goofup, or something funny about them in general. Munster could be that he looked like that, his name was Herman, or it could be 'Muenster' for the cheese. Either because he smelled like cheese, or because he always put that on sandwiches when he could.
'The World May Never Know.'
Two of the pilots have what could be taken as Irish surnames. Munster is a province in Ireland.
@@matthaeusprime6343 True. Watch "Carrier" on yt. A rookie's first cat launch in an F-18 off the ship and the rookie said I screamed like a girl. His nickname became SLAG (S creamed L ike A G irl)
Do y’all know how much we pray for you? Cheer for YOU? Appreciate you and your families? I’m amazed at our great military, constantly spoke of you to our children and thankful beyond words for the immeasurable sacrifice. You should also know - we mourn and hurt with you too. I’m in awe watching this. Thank you!
Every time I see /hear the replays on this... "Good hit, good hit one one..." I wanna jump outta the chair and just yell YEAH!
Hey man,nice shot
The audio is the best part, as the hard-as-steel pilots gradually show more and more signs of stress in their voices.
Well, you also have to remember that they're performing high g turns. So yes, there stress level on their body, as well as the mental stress is going to increase
What do the flight crews mean by referring to things’ as, say, Angels 9 or Angels 5?Does it indicate where a plane is relative to one’s own aircraft?
@Scott Joseph was just going to say angels refers to altitude and the numerical was x1000
@f-antifa and black lives matter, I love your name! Thank you!
Odd because Flight Level is a multiplier of 100 in commercial aviation, FL320 = 32,000ft altitude
(A)ngels = A = Altitude
@@devilshaircut9 Not odd at all. Flight level only starts at 18k feet and above. For example, there's no such thing as FL120. The correct call in that case would be "1 2 thousand".
Amazing how quickly the action happened! The pilots need to think and respond instantly!
Those Migs never had their missile directing radars turned on. Imagine being the Libyan squadron commander, knowing that "El Supremo" had ordered you to send your guys in to sacrifice themselves for an ignorant, wishful thinking. political miscalculation
@@jefftheriault7260 still don't know why they buzzed on US plane,clearly wants something to happen.....and didn't even prepared for it. Lol
I was on the kitty hawk during G1 and happened to be in CIC when we had a pair break the 23rd parallel. Dude, you heat the stress on these guys and your heart is jumping out of your chest with them. This shit gets real. But G1 (and before because this was at the end of my 13 years before I was 100%ed disabled) forever endeared the F14 as the baddest ass plane ever to me.
What's that sound at 7:45? I've never played DCS, but it sounds so cool
Im guessing it's the sidewinder's "I SEE IT CLEARLY! LAUNCH ME!!!!" tone
@@Dash99erOfficial You're right, I finally found it. What a cool sound.
You guys did a great job with the cockpit angle for the 2nd kill, looked great
The ship calls out condition 'yellow' hold, while the opposing force more than 6 times takes a collision course!? Obviously those pilots were saying nuts to that.
What does yellow hold mean?
"Warning yellow, weapons hold."
The quick research I grabbed says that "warning yellow" means there is an imminent threat posed to the battle group. "Weapons hold" is a reminder that peacetime ROE (rules of engagement) still apply. Technically they were not cleared to fire, as the order was not "weapons free". ROE in peacetime, to my knowledge, is hostile act (do not fire unless fired upon), not hostile intent, which was what those Floggers were doing by jinking into them.
Hope this helps you out. Prayin' I got this right.
[Edit: Floggers, not Fitters.]
@@firebird_0-1 Oh okay cool thanks
They were Floggers? A'ight, no sweat. Thanks for the update.
@@firebird_0-1 -To 'wait until fired upon', is suicide confirmed.. Even Gunfighters of history became martyrs by following that nonsense..
746 Air Force pilots were jelly and "disliked" it.
Why is not the Theme from TO GUN playing in the background......WTH Dash99er
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Fun fact: The actual recorded phrase at 3:46 was used in the movies "Under Siege" & "Clear & Present Danger"
I remember this! Scratch 2 for the NAVY!
I remember when this happened, Air Force bases in the US went on high alert.
God I love this country!!
If you don't love this country, you don't understand the meaning of the word......
Superb..... Thanks.
Did the F14 pilot decide to shoot on his own? I never heard them get the green light from weapons yellow hold.......might have missed some of the nomenclature
As Chuck Yeager put it when asked about the F-86 vs the Mig 15, "It ain't the machine, it's the man!"
@The Doge-Emperor of Dogekind yep, my mistake.
Well, he’s right but proves it with his superhuman exceptionalism as a pilot.
Mig 15s are interceptors not fighters! They went for the B29s. When they brought out the 17 it was not just a problem for the F 86s of Taiwan but for even the F4s over Vietnam!
Anymore, its the machine. Technology wins the air.
@@walteroreilly8963 sound like SKYNET ?
Alpha Bravo warned CloseOut out of a second flight of two but CloseOut mistakenly thought it was the same two they were dealing with.
Actually, there was a second flight of two Libyan fighter and they were forty plus miles behind the first two MiG-23MFs but, they turned around and returned to their base. They never posed threat to the F-14s.
Jamie Lancaster
“The other 2 Migs are buggin out”. Sorry just had to. Lol
@@MrCarnutbill67 🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍
One thing that came out of this dogfight was, the was entirely to much communication and confusion by all involved! Look at the videos of dogfights from the Persian Gulf War, there was far less communications between the US pilots involved in the dogfights.
I was thinking the EXACT same thing..
Well done Maverick, Goose and the Ice Man. Permission to buzz the tower :-)
That was fantastic. Tomcats. You rule