Declassified dogfight footage: F-14 Tomcat vs. Libyan MiG-23
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1989 Tobruk encounter between two F-14 Tomcats of the USS John F. Kennedy and two MiG-23 Floggers of Libya. Unsurprisingly, the Tomcats come out on top. 
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This was my Uncle and another pilot. Gulf of Sidra 1989. Quidalfi sent two Migs to destroy their carrier. After several attempts to get the migs to turn around they decided to fly in front on them. This migs locked on and my Uncle and the other pilot had to shoot them down. They mig pilots deployed their ejection seats and chutes but my Uncle said the water was too cold for them to survive. My family has the original video on VHS. My Uncle retired in 2000 after an amazing 20 years as a pilot. Thanks to all who have served, those serving, and those about to serve.
The average temperature of the Gulf of Sirte (Sidra) during winter (in this case January) is 16° - 20°C. Well warm enough for anyone to survive for hours.
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Your uncle's a liar.
Water was too cold? seriously? I think you are full of it.
Robert Wilbert that's what he told me. That's all I know
+Robert Wilbert Granted chzmn231 claim is broad, if you're questioning water being "too cold" in order to make his claim less valid you have to be pretty misinformed. Gulf of Sidra can get cold enough especially in open water to kill someone from hypothermia if they aren't rescued within a relatively short amount of time.
You can actually die from hypothermia for being out in open water just about anywhere if you allow your body temp to continue to drop.
I believe it. I went thru aircrew survival training in 84. The Navy dumped us in Pensacola bay and left us there all day. Air and water temp 80's deg. By the time they pulled us out we were all shivering and cold. Consider the Libyan pilots are probably acclimated to very hot desert temps and the shock your body and brain endure during ejection. Not sure what capability the Libyans had to locate and rescue their airmen but assuming the pilots even survived to get into the water they may have taken too long to find them.
Pretty sure I saw a documentary about this starring Tom Cruise.
hahaha!!
Fuck I hate Tom cruise
Best comment
@@toptank5348 calm down
@@benjaminrobledo8291 Nah sorry mate, I can't Tom cruise is an outrage and him and his bullshit can take a long walk of a short plank
In 1981 I was onboard the USS Hsrlan County in the Mediterranean off of the coast of Libya when two Navy F-14s from the USS Nimitz were engaged by two SU-22s flying under the Libyan flag (Russian piloted?). The Soviet jets fired two Atoll missiles at our F-14s and missed, the F-14s then maneuvered into position behind the SU-22s firing two Sidewinders and destroyed both Libyan jets.
Today it's called the Gulf of Sidra Incident if anyone wants to read about it.
they made a documentary about that i saw in the cinema in the 80s
Now I know where growling sidewinders intro is from
XD
A little explanation may help for some of you.
Angels is altitude expressed in thousands of feet. Angels 10 is 10,000 feet. Angels five is 5,000 feet.
Fox One means that the speaker (pilot) has launched a radar guided or semi-active radar homing missile. If I remember correctly these two F-14s were armed with four AIM-7 Sparrows semi-active radar homing and four AIM-9 Sidewinders heat seeking missiles.
Fox 2 was the other F-14 pilot referring to firing an AIM-9 Sidewinder. When one pilot says, "There he is, shoot," he responds with "I can't, I don't have any f(^$*%$ tone," he is referring to an audible signal that the Sidewinder seeker head sends to the pilot. That is the growling noise that you hear a few seconds later. That tells the pilot that the Sidewinder seeker head has picked up the target.
This was the second of two air-to-air engagements between Libyan air force fighters and U.S. navy fighters during the and Reagan administration. Moammar Quadaffi had claimed the Gulf of Sidrah as Libyan territory in violation of United Nations agreements. President Quadaffi proclaimed a "Line of Death" between Tripoli and Benghazi across the opening of the Gulf of Sidrah. President Reagan refused to recognize it as Libyan territory and ordered US navy assets to patrol inside the gulf while respecting the US (and international) recognized limit of 12 nautical miles from Libyan shoreline.
In 1981 two F-14s flying combat air patrol (I forget the name of the carrier, I think it was the USS Nimitz) reacted on two Su-22 Fitters and downed them both with AIM-9 Sidewinders. It appeared to be an easy shoot because the Fitter is a ground attack fighter, not well suited for air-to-air combat.
In this video the F-14s shoot down two MiG-23 Fencers, not much better suited to air-to-air combat. The MiG-23 was an air defense fighter designed to attack heavy bombers such as B-52s. Its capabilities were poor compared to US fighters such as the F-14 and US air force F-15.
Quadaffi used to spoil for a fight with the United States, at least he said he did. After surviving a couple of near misses he kind of shut up.
+Daniel Robbins Yes he did. It was several years before you heard anything else from Gaddafi. I think he stopped believing in his own immortality at that point.
+Daniel Robbins Great explanation. Thank you!
Quick question though; isn't a MiG-23 a Flogger? It sounds like that's what the pilot calls them at 8:44.
+danh5150
Yes, I think you must be right. Certainly the pilot would know.
I sometimes get the code names/NATO cover names mixed up.
Fencer maybe belongs to the Su-17. I'd have to go back and look them up. Its been over thirty years since I worked target traffic.
thanks, that's very interesting, and it gives a lot of context for the video.
ahh...on behalf of us who don't speak "fighter pilot", thank you for translating that into English.
So many people complaining about the lack of quality. These pilots and RIOs were looking mostly at instruments until the very end. If you use a little bit of imagination you can feel how terrifying it is to only get a glimpse of your enemy and if you lose sight of him or Don't get a missile lock you could die. Real life is played out in 360 degrees and you rarely see what kills you. Welcome to combat, folks.
Jason Crow, agreed, all be it I have not been in the Services at all. Only one thing I will mention to go along with your thoughts, that is these Men were Chased and ultimately had to defend themselves from CCCP Mig's flown from Libya and chose to pursue two Jet in international waters.
The one other thing is these guys have to deal with left and right AND up and down (another 360) and do it at High Speed.
Hats off to them, No Innocent people were harmed in this.
Cheers from John, Australia.
I don't think any one is holding the camera dude pretty shore its mounted on somthing but point being that if the US can afford a jet cant they afford a better cam like even a go pro would do just fine or was this vid from ages ago ?
@@joandar1 well said ! Cheer's mate!
@@codyvandermerwe7350 the description said it was from 1989 so yes it was indeed from ages ago
True! All you have to do is listen to their voices. And how they slowly escalate in intensity and a little fear by the end of the video.
The MIGS were just trying to contact you about renewing your cars warranty.
Lol
Reply with growling sidewinder
And unsafeties the duel 20mm cannon
@@notnow1639 Don’t you think everyone should know that China now has the largest navy in the world? I believe that the end of the world will come when we can all blow each other up.
To see our beautiful planet from space is beyond inspiring.
May the Lord guide our every step, lest we hit our foot against a sone.
There are far too many stones ahead!
@@maryshanley329 the experiments are nearly over
The would of suffering has been very enlightening the great game draws to a close limitations vulnerability inadequacy and chaos
Will soon be understood by the earth creators such are the only things perfect beings lack
And when the game ends the pawns and the kings go back into the box together
@@notnow1639 *BEEP*
Connection terminated.
I'm sorry to interrupt you, Elizabeth. If you still even remember that name.
But I'm afraid you've been misinformed.
You are not here to receive a gift. Nor, have you been called here by the individual you assume. Although, you have indeed been called.
You have all been called here. Into a labyrinth of sounds and smells, misdirection and misfortune.
A labyrinth with no exit. A maze with no prize. You don't even realize that you are trapped. Your lust of blood has driven you in endless circles. Chasing the cries of children in some unseen chamber, always seeming so near.
Yet somehow out of reach.
But, you will never find them. None of you will.
This is where your story ends.
And to you, my brave volunteer, who somehow found this job listing not intended for you. Although, there was a way out planned for you, I have a feeling that's not what you want. I have a feeling that you are right where you want to be.
I am remaining as well. I am nearby.
This place will not be remembered and the memory of everything that started this, can finally begin to fade away. As the agony of every tragedy should.
And to you monsters trapped in the corridors. Be still. And give up your spirits.
They don't belong to you.
As for most of you, I believe there is peace and perhaps, warm, waiting for you after the smoke clears.
Although, for one of you, the darkest pit of Hell has opened to swallow you whole. So, don't keep the Devil waiting, friend.
My daughter, if you can hear me, I knew you would return as well. It's in your nature to protect the innocent. I'm sorry that on that day, the day you were shut out and left to die, no one was there to lift you up in their arms, the way you lifted others into yours.
And then, what became of you, I should have known, you wouldn't be content to disappear. Not my daughter. I couldn't save you then.
So, let me save you now. It's time to rest, for you, and for those you have carried in your arms...
This ends.
For all of us.
End communication.
When you watch so much Growling Sidewinder content that you're lead to the voice recording of his video intros.
"If you were directly above him, how could you tell what he was doing?"
"Because I was inverted."
Cough "Bullshit!!". Lol
Mustang, this is Voodoo 3. Remaining MiGs are bugging out.
"Damn I should be a photographer"
Who was covering cougar while you were off showboating with that mig?
@@funshootin1"Cougar was doing just fine."
I was on the USS Saratoga CV-60 just a few months after this event, at the beginning of Desert Storm. We were the first Carrier to "LAUNCH" against the forces of Sadam Hussein. We saw this kind of footage daily from our pilots. One thing I've noticed about the comments here, many were glad our guys came back OKAY. When we shot off our first air strike we watched on the flight deck cameras. The one, united sentiment was, I hope our pilots come back OKAY. There was no joy in what we were witnessing, no boasts of what our pilots would do, we just wanted them back safe and OKAY.
Holder Well said, sir.
@@GrahamCStrouse 01!!!a!!!!
Spoken like a true soldier with integrity and a front view of what war really does. These ppl have never seen real violence and death accept on tv.
@@mikolashollins4366 Well said, Vietnam 69&70. War is hell, but sometimes we have to step up. A lot of these folks have no idea and I am glad they don't have to know. At least not yet.
@@garypillischafske9988 Thanks to the real heroes like you. We haven't had to.
I can’t wait for the declassified footage of the f-22 raptor vs the Chinese balloon
This will be the greatest declassified footage in military history.
....the balloon has jinked back into me for the 4th time... Fox 1. 😂
I fucking love this lol.
🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Migs : We’ve been trying to reach you about your cars extended warranty. Tomcats: Fox 1, Fox2
So I’m not the only one who gets those calls!!! 🤬😹🤬🤬
Is Fox code for fire?
@@thesausage351 it's code for launching missiles, fox one is firing semi-active radar guided missiles where the attacking plane needs to maintain radar lock on the target, fox two is firing infrared guided missiles which lock on to the target's engine heat, so they're fire and forget, you can turn off your sensors and go home.
Fox 3 is firing active radar guided missile, which has it's own radar transmitter and receiver, so once you have a lock, it will do the rest, I don't think Tomcats carried any at the time of this engagement.
Guns is just what it sounds like, using the cannons on a target.
@@domvasta It's guns, guns, guns though.
@@akkudakkupl that’s for the actual gun, missiles have their own designations
To all of you complaining about the “quality,” please give us a link to the 4K UHD, Dolby Atmos sound version recorded on the Russian MiGs. I will wait...
Thank god someone asked, this video quality is trash.
Dont forget Dolby Vision
I only see an 8 and 16k version. I don't think they had it any lower.
Sorry, black box is in the bottom of the ocean.
I dont think their side will release that footage cause they lost , dont get false hopes up for the link....
Angels = altitude in 1,000 of feet; Angels 8 = 8,000 Feet
Jink = erratic movement, meant to obtaining firing solution difficult
Bogey = unknown aircraft
Fox 1 = Semi active missile (needs firing aircraft support)
Fox 2 = IR Missile (heat seekers)
Fox 3 = Active Missile (self supporting, like AAMRAM)
FLOGGER = NATO designation of MiG 23
Cool thanks
Welp, now i know where Growling Sidewinders intro is from. I got immense chills hearing that. 7:30
Lol, same.
I finally found the real footage.
@@altairnx4308 i just assumed everyone knew it was from this lol. glad you guys got to see this epic piece of history.
lmao same
Crazy how they were closing in on them at about 1 mile every 2 seconds. Now you can understand why even 80 miles away they are a threat.
That's the thing about out of visual range radar and aam systems, 80 miles is extremely close.
Before anyone argues "American Imperialism", I would suggest looking up the first "Gulf of Sidra" incident, simply put:
In 1981, then leader/dictator of Libya, Colonel Qadafi, unilaterally announced that entire Gulf of Sidra being Libyan territory, and that anyone not Libyan, who enters the gulf, will be passing a "line of death" and will be destroyed. This was in violation of international law, as a large part of this "line of death" was well past the 12 nautical mile limit, for the internationally agreed upon, on what is a country's territorial waters. Under the direction of the US Government, the US Navy initiated what is called a "Freedom of Navigation" exercise, and parked an entire naval battle group inside the Gulf of Sidra and dared the Libyan to "try something stupid". The Libyans, in response, launched two Su-22 Fitters, with clear hostile intent, at a pair of F-14 Tomcats, the Fitters were shot down. The incident in this video was the US navy continuing to exercise freedom on navigation.
Before anyone complains about "American Imperialism", should note that firstly, the US Navy's various Freedom of Navigation exercises are considered a good thing by almost all countries, with only a few countries getting upset, the ones violating international law of seas in the first place. And secondly, and lastly, if anyone thinks I am supporting the US, because they think I am an American, I'm not, I am South African, and I fully support a persons right to navigate international waters without restriction, unless said restriction was internationally agreed upon.
American Guardianizim
@@thatsclassified1 lmao
@@thatsclassified1 What? The truth hurts?
nnyah, ok😐
nice logical fallacies
I actually really appreciate the restraint these guys showed. No one wanted to blow the shit out of the MIG's.
I heard growling sidewinders intro and I thought I was watching a new Dogfight
Ditto
Fr I was like oh so that's the source of this sound
+1 :D
I remember this encounter in the news back when it happened. Libya tried to extend the international recognized 200 nautical mile limit from its shores to 500 miles. The American planes were sent to challenge that by flying just outside of the 200 mile limit and the Libyan Air Force was sent to respond. So no, the F-14s were not on routine patrol, they were on troll patrol.
upboat for troll patrol
Jerry Oswald the fuck is troll patrol? :D
trolls win
Actually the US Navy was there to allow safe passage for shipping in international waters.
Oswald just remember not to absorb too much media/propaganda, you might start thinking what they want you to think
Libyan pilot 1: boring day.
Libyan pilot 2: Let’s engage the US Navy!
Tomcats: can’t fix stupid
Can't fix stupid? Of course they could, they blasted those MiG's out the sky did not? Stupidity eliminated!
"Shoot him, fox-2!"
"I can't, I don't have a FUCKING TONE!"
Apparently those pilots that ejected died from exposure floating around in that water. Sucks.
Comes to show how much these dictatorships care for their people and their military. Probably young pilots send to die, for some international waters just because they were illegally claimed as Libyan when the country neither had the air equipment to face the US Navy, nor to rescue the pilots when they inevitably got shot down.
Yet people stand with these because “aMErIcA BaD”.
Those MiG pilots legit got sent on a suicide mission
When both got shot down they knew it was a bruh moment
It was at that moment....
@@billybunter3753 they knew..
they fucked up
You can really hear him start breathing hard when the adrenaline kicks off
They're trained to breath hard during high G maneuvers to avoid passing out.
Not just adrenaline, it’s the g forces as he’s throwing the Tomcat left and right in an attempt to break contact at high speed will compress his chest like crazy.
He facing Libyans the real terror on earth my friend
@@libyanloyal7932 to bad they lost
libyan loyal being Libyan would definitely be a terror...
They did everything they could to avoid engagement, I don’t understand what those Mig pilots were thinking. Also, American fighter pilots are known for being incredibly patient and non-aggressive, so you really have to act stupid for them to shoot you down.
Probably got sacrificed for some dumb propaganda message
@@mamba81 Racist dirtbag say it with your chest.
@hu6284 how is that racist?
@@hu6284 get professional mental help
@@hu6284 lmao relax dickhead
Are you kidding me??? Right after “TOP GUN” comes out in 86, these guys think they can FK with Maverick and Ice Man???
6:26
“Fox 1! Fox 1!”
“Oh Jesus.”
The moment it gets real. 😳
Exactly mans was like like well thats it
When some guys are talking shit to your buddy and he drags you into a gun fight that could start an international war. Oh yeah, you're also already moving faster than the speed of sound.
What means fox 1
@@Barelo Fox 1 is the radio call made by a pilot, generally from a fighter aircraft, indicating the firing of an air-to-air guided weapon system, usually but not limited to missiles, against an opposing fighter aircraft.
@@toddsin8611 There are 3 brevity codes for A2A missile launches, not necessarily given by the pilot. In this case, the RIO (backseater) was the one who launched the missiles and made the calls. (That's why the pilot says "Oh, Jesus")
Fox 1: "Semi-active radar homing missile has been launched." (AIM-7 Sparrow)
Fox 2: "Infrared-guided missile has been launched." (AIM-9 Sidewinder)
Fox 3: "Active radar homing missile has been launched." (AIM-54 Phoenix or AIM-120 AMRAAM)
when the pilot starts breathing hard you know its getting real....
yea
So this is where Growling Sidewinder's intro comes from
I'm glad I'm not the only one
I know, it’s kinda cool!
Growling Sidewinder
The migs came to tell the f14 pilots that their car warranty had expired.
FOX 2!
"Hey guys, I got a good idea. Let's fuck with the US Navy..."
Well shit .... that wasn't such a great fucking idea now was it Ahmed?! Look where we are now!
this happened off the coast of the USA or something?
No it didn't, it was F14s flying in/around Libyan airspace..
Jethro Rose anywhere near a carrier is US airspace.
I'd say there would be plenty of countries who would disagree with that. And anywhere near a country is its own territorial waters.
In philosophy, "the Absurd" refers to the conflict between the human tendency to seek inherent value and meaning in life and the human inability to find any. In this context, absurd does not mean "logically impossible", but rather "humanly impossible". The universe and the human mind do not each separately cause the Absurd, but rather, the Absurd arises by the contradictory nature of the two existing simultaneously.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism
Man just trying to imagine what it would be like to fly in a jet let alone fighting other jets with missles.
This where growing sidewinder got his intro
YEAH THETS WHAT I WAS THINKING, i knew the guys voice sounded familiar near the part
I was searching for this comment :D +1
That's what you call "fuck around and find out"
I just found a potato chip in my hair
I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home. They're not much bigger than two meters.
There is a graph in existence that shows the more you fuck around, the more you find out 🤷♂️
Anyone who’s familiar with GrowlingSidewinder, this tape recording should be familiar 😊
YES! as soon as he said fox 2 i recognized it
That warbling tone is amazing.
Lol
Yup eheh
Or any Falcon BMS players
If I can remember, an incident like this incident caused a stir about President Reagan and when to wake him up. His reply was classic, "If they had knocked down one of ours, then it would be right to wake me up. Since it was theirs shot down, why wake me up?".
Fox 1! Oh jesus! 6:25 That's when he realized there was going to be alot of paperwork
Giggiyygoo "cmon couldn't if have just been fox 4"
@@Impreza-bj5jh fox 4?
The human moment was when the pilot/co-pilot says "Jesus" when he realizes someone is not going to make it home. That realization that shit just got real and the empathy for the humans behind the stick of the other planes!
You should be a psychologist.
People bitching about video recorded on a gun cam in the 80s 😅. The diaglogue between the tomcat pilots is whats interesting, i dont know why people were expecting ray tracing
What we're seeing here is the TV camera under the nose of the Tomcat. It's not like a movie where there are 12 cameras catching every angle of the fight. The reason there is even this video is that it's the only glimpse of the other aircraft to make the video "interesting". You're right...people think combat for real is filmed like it is on a movie or TV show...
I was on the Kennedy when that happened, attached to VS-22, an S-3 Squadron. A day I'll never forget. Those MIG's had plenty of opportunity to avoid being shot down. Plane Captains were marking the kills on the F-14's before the engines had time to cool. It's just like when you were kids, people, you fight back at the bullies or get run over.
mess with the bull and you get the horn.
Thank you for your service.
Dan I salute you and God bless you for serving our country with honor.Viet nam vet here USN NAVSUPPACT DANANG 1966 to 1967 &68 river patrol boats perfume river into Hue.
Thanks for your service and adding to the video.
Did the 2nd Libyan pilot that ejected got picked up and detained? Or left for the Sharks I assume?
for anyone confused fox 1 is semi active radar guided missiles and fox 2 is ir guided
That would be an AIM-7 Sparrow and AIM-9 Sidewinder
one of the wisest things my dad ever told me was that just because someone is evading you doesnt mean they cant fight. dont chase something you arent confident you can kill
4 Libyan pilots ejected, and Libya never even recovered them. From...The Operations Room.
I know they were aggressive and instigated the affair but, that's a damn shame for a government to just abandon their aviators like that in open water. Basically sent those men on a suicide mission.
incredible human moment.
the Libyan Air Force allowed those pilots to drown because of the shame they brought Libya.
Worst thing to do to your own.
WHo told you that
Give it up guys. The Douglas Commercial (DC 3 etc) was designed in 1932. It was great in its day but so out of date today as may be expected. I have flown them. It isn't even a good trainer for a modern airplane. Too many drawbacks to mention. 135 knots IAS? 55% Cruise power. 500 psi hydraulics. Yuk.
American trained pilots have so many advantages over vast majority of ANY other pilot there simply are NO comparisons worthwhile.
@@delberthagan4901 Apart from the RAF, yes
Us pilots are the best in the world. I salute you boys and hold my head high. From a grateful ground pounder. Semper Fi gents!
Phillip Swanner how about Tha crazy awesome incredible Russian pilots?
Phillip Swanner same here bro
+Moon Gi Yoon them and many more countries pilots will fuck americunt pilots up
Phillip Swanner Don't be so bitter friend, go out of your basement at least once every other month and try to get laid or something .....
lol
I was in the Mediterranean aboard the USS Enterprise when this happened. We crossed the Libian so called " Line of death" into the Gulf of Sidra and flew flight ops for a few days. Aviation Boatswains Mate 3rd class. This video makes me proud of my service.
Bro what year was you on the CVN-65 I'm was young bull then though 2008-2012
@@killatrollseason1878 I was on there from Dec 85- Apr 90
@@garnstone Respect thank you for your service
@@killatrollseason1878 back at you bro
Thank you.
7:40 growling sidewinders intro lol
ooooooohhh
He uses footage of a rio making ridiculous mistakes as his intro
damn
Just came here to read the comments from all the experts who could have done it better.
Douglas Lawrence I’m no expert but I could done better
I'm no expert, either, but i DID sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night
SamFreedom Shut up and take this like
@@joshuaholmes7929 🤣🤣🤣
Every missiles fired in this fight is worth more than my house
Freedom has never been free...
Well that might depend on your local government and who gets elected in November.
Well now that we’re on the topic of politics, imagine being a dumbass and voting for Joe Biden.
worth every penny
@@Get_Splooshed c'mon man, you know the thing.
The Salt Must Flow
Sounds like these migs were on the highway to the danger zone.
do do dodo do
Found the history feels fan
Just put on the brakes and he'll fly right by.
His coming from in front not behind....
7:34it’s clearly the intro of growling sidewinder OMG
BRO i came to comment that! 😂 I was like wait this guys voice sounds familiar then BAM it played the intro and I was like NO WAYYY
I remember him taking about that in an older video but thought the same thing 🤣
Bogey = radar contact
Angels = altitude in 1000s of feet
Tally 2 = 2 enemies detected
Fox 1 - A missile fired. (semi active radar guided)
Fox 2 - Infrared guided missile fired.
Bogey is one above par…
@@RatedAR3 Regardless, they got a hole in one ---- twice
Thanks
You get all that off of Google?
@@swaggerjacker1482 Wikipedia, I added it not to sound smart but so people understand the video, is that ok with you or do you have anything else to say?
... the second mig woulda been splashed 10 seconds earlier if the damn AIM-9M woulda gott a good tone... I was an Ordie 10 years ago... during OEF on Deployment, we'd load AIM-9X's and do a "tone check" (make sure the guidance section locks on to a heat signature) and the pilot wouldn't get a tone for 1 of the 2 missiles half the time... (sometimes neither)... we would then do the hand signal to ask the pilot & the WSO if they still wanted to fly even though their Air to Air was shit... not ONCE did a pilot say no... and that happened multiple times a day... I gotta lot of respect for those pilots
I think I’ve seen a dissect of this somewhere. Might have been on Ward Carroll’s channel. And the reason he is not getting a tone is that he hadn’t switched to fox 2 mode.
I accidentally found where GS gets his intro! Awesome.
I found this way before I found GS.
@@NIKE-cf3xl Same. But this is my first time rewatching it since and I never realized lol.
It's so Freaking Awesome hearing the Pilot, his adrenaline Steadily Rising!,His Voice,His Breathing!,U.S. Navy Pilots are The Best in The World!!!,and Those F14 Tomcats were Such a Great Airplane!,Freaking Total BadAss!!!
This actually really intense. Even though you can't see anything it's more exciting than a cgi dog fight in a movie because you know it's real.
Cgi BAD
The Tomcat was an awesome platform. I can understand the pilot's anxiety given the time and known history, but I can also see the outcome of an analysis where enemy tracking radar was not engaged. A reminder that Russian made K13 heat seeking missiles do not need radar and the Tomcat is capable of engaging targets at almost 100 nautical miles as well as up close and personal with it's 20mm Vulcan cannon. A very respectful salute to all of our aviation combat pilots, you guys (and gals) are the best of the best.
Yeh. Given how close the ranges got before either side started shooting this all seemed like one big, deadly game of chicken
No mid-range semi-active radar homing missiles on Floggers?
Have a look at The Operations Room video on this
7:34 growling sidewinder :)
Blew him all over the fuckin’ place. Direct till paradise
A brief history... We might say this began in 1973, when Lybian dictator, Gaddafi, in violation of international law, claimed the entire Gulf of Sidra was his territory. He called the northern latitude of the Gulf "The Line of Death" and threatened to destroy any uninvited ships or planes that dared to cross into the Gulf.
In 1973, Nixon was near the end of the Watergate episode and would resign from office less than a year later. Ford did nothing. Jimmy Carter gave Gaddafi, every Islamic nation and every Islamic terrorist group every reason to believe the U.S. was a paper tiger. A lot of today's problems in the Middle East can be traced back to the terrible decisions made by Carter.
Emboldened by a weak America, Gaddafi escalated his campaign of terrorism. He had been linked to the hi-jacking of commercial planes, attacks commercial airports, the bombing of commercial establishments, and the funding and control of puppet terrorist groups.
In 1981, President Ronald Reagan decided the U.S. had a responsibility to enforce international law. Fighters from the aircraft carrier's air wing would routinely fly inside the "Line of Death" as part of the American Navy's "freedom of navigation" operations designed to prove a commitment to the conventions of international admiralty law. Reagan sent three aircraft carriers to cross the so-called "Line of Death." A Libyan missile installation near Surt launched two Soviet-made SA-5 "Gammon" surface-to-air missiles toward American Tomcats. The missiles missed their targets and fell harmlessly into the sea. Two additional SA-5 missiles were launched but were jammed by an EA-6B Prowler. Two hours later, two MiG-23s took off from Benina air base with orders to intercept and shoot down some of the U.S. fighters. In that air combat, both of the Lybian planes were shot down.
The Lybian dictator did not slow his terrorist attacks so in 1986 Reagan ordered an aerial campaign on Lybian soil in retaliation for Libyan agents' bombing of a West Berlin nightclub that killed three people, including a U.S. serviceman, and injured 229 more.
In 1989, Lybia ordered another two of their fighter jets to intercept and shot down American Tomcats. This is the fight shown in the video above.
I was actually on that cruise on the deck that night working on an 86 aircraft. the two fighters were actually sitting on deck with aircraft power and the Huffers ready to go. The air boss said over the loudspeaker “launch the alert fighters” and off they went into the night.
Sorry A6 ntruder aircraft not an 86.
@@stuartross587hover your mouse over your comment, then got to the right until you see three dots. click on that and click edit. you can fix your mistake like that.
7:39 no way growling sidewinder intro 😨😨😨😨
I was mind blown as well
🤣🤣
7:34 for Growling Sidewinder fans ;)
seems like everyone in the comment section is a fighter pilot
not me and i did work on F-15 s as a fuel systems specialist and a confine space rescue personnel ..... knew a lot of pilots and you can discern the fake pilots from the real easily..
@@kevinmartin9259 thats cool, im going to be working on apaches as 15y, and after that i will get my bachleors and switch to the air force or navy
I'm a TIE pilot bruddeh.
Loxx and im an apache helicopter
I'm a naval admiral 😂
"talk to me Goose"
Growling Sidewinders took me here
"i cant i dont have a fuckingg toneee"
This was retaliation for Doc Brown stiffing them on their plutonium.
Just re-watched that movie last night.
Yup-if I'm easing to one side & this cat's not only lining back up to meet me head first and he does it 6 times AND he's pickin' up speed the closer we get (and he's armed)? Sorry, Jack...but Fox-1 and have a nice swim!
Nevermind being in their region of this planet… huh?
Do you go to backyard barbecues and beat up the owner?
Maybe… rape the wife & kids?
IT WOULDN'T BE UNHEARD OF!
Not for YOU people… it wouldn't.
In fact…
Nah…. NEVERMIND!
You can briefly hear some of the pilots talking about not having 'a effing tone' (although the guy pronouncing it sounded tone more like toon) at times like around 7:36 . They are referring to how the missiles onboard will not fire in air-2-air mode unless they get a lock on which produces the 'tone', a very specific sound. I believe the sound you hear at 7:39 or 7:41 is the 'tone' they are talking about, but I'm no F-14 Tomcat fighter. The tone is also sometimes called a growl.
I didnt know that. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for the commnent!
@@CL-ie5fz I didn't now that, grow the fuck up you stupid cunt.
@@CL-ie5fz I didnt know that
The HUD DVR records all audio channels, whether they're selected by the crew or not. The individual crew may not have the channel selected on his audio panel ( in this case ....). The RIO had the channel selected the whole time and was hearing the heater's growl the entire time they were chasing the Flogger. But the skipper driving the jet and pulling the trigger, didn't have it up on his audio panel, so he wasn't hearing it initially. Until his RIO politely reminded him to select it.
Me “watching a blank white screen with intense looks”
The stress in those situations must be incredible, these guys are worth their weight in gold and some. Thank you all those in the military defending our shores, someones son or daughter, wife, husband, sister or brother. Respect. You are appreciated.
@Zed Defending your shores against whom. The Red fish. Youve been programmed so successfully, the seaweed might attack soon. You are living proof that propaganda works.
@@shea086 with people like you, you know my reply is always 'yes dear'
Damn, Top Gun is lookin good
This is so random how it’s 7 years old but only just started growing.
Cool footage though am I right?
youtube algorithm starts to recommend old videos
RUclips loves to push 7 year old content. I shot a firecrack from a BB gun, sue me it was funny, and posted it to share with friends. Literally just a way to get a video out to my friend group... and 7 years later that big pile of ammonium nitrate goes off leveling several city blocks and my video trends for a second. 15 views to 590,000 views instantly. Silly as hell. 27 seconds of people's lives they will never get back.
I love how the other pilot just instantly goes “oh Jesus”, when he fired the first missile because I don’t think either of them really thought they were going to engage😭
We were with my dad when he was stationed in Crete, Greece when this incident happened. Our base went on alert. Pretty intense for a 12 year old to see.
Definitely didn't expect a Growling Sidewinder cameo but then again I think we all expected it
I did not expect it lol
In 1989, an F-14 was a mismatch for any foreign made fighter. Imho, it was one of the finest airplanes ever produced.
By mismatch, you mean unfair fight? Glorious machine
Ahhh so that's where Growling Sidewinder gets his intro ;)
I was just thinking the same thing 😁
Lol
Now i know that security cameras are actually fighter jet cameras.
The lybians only attacked because Doc from Back To The Future stole the plutonium from them
ITS THE LIBYANSSS!!! RUN FOR IT MARTY!!!
LMMFAO
So now I know where Growling Sidewinder got his intro
I was thinking the same thing.
Anyone else recognize this from Growling Sidewinder's intro? He really is a Cat person.
Defenitely
7:15 FOX 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder off the rails!!
The whole time watching this i can't help but think about how the background sounds make it feel like a bunch of kids are playing a flight simulator game while their moms are vacuuming the house.
I remember the T-shirts they made back home at NWC where the missiles where developed. They read "Sidewinder 2 - Libya 0." The local boys were proud.
It's easy to flex when you're thousands of miles away. These guys were the ones putting their lives on the line, and one of them couldn't get missile lock from one of those Sidewinders.
Two fox ones, both trashed. Yup, that's sparrows for ya.
Missiles are not as simple as hit or miss. Probability of kill is determined by many factors, from where it's fired and the bogey it's targeting This includes; altitude and speed of launch aircraft (higher and faster is better, higher altitude has less drag on the missile), distance to target (most important), bogey's altitude speed and vector (if he goes lower, faster and perpendicular to the missile it improves his odds which also has the chance to notch the radar signal and make the missile go dumb), did the missile get tricked by chaff or flares, was the missile properly guided or just left to pitbull (fox one semi radar guided), and the orientation to the sun (mostly infrared missiles). It's also general US doctrine to use missiles as a standoff weapon even if it misses.
However the Sparrow indeed had a poor reputation for reliability, and even though it was vastly improved in later versions, it's nowhere close to the capability of the AIM-120.
@@weasle2904 Do you play DCS World? Because you sound like someone who plays DCS World.
@@NobbsAndVagene 😂😂
He fired a second sparrow just after the first one, this made it go dumb.
A huge mistake for a navy RIO.
Mkaes you wonder how well or badly they were maintained. After the end of the vietnam war the navy was supposed to make up lost time with weapon maintenance.
"shoot him!"
"I dont have a fucking tone!"
It means he cant lock the missle because the radar isnt workjng
@@degaga633dosa6 That's not what it means , it means the Heat Seeking sensor is not getting enough IR signal to lock the aircraft , that's independent of the radar.
@P. R. you’re all wrong. He forgot to put a rock in his slingshot before he took off.
Fox 1
“Aw Jesus”
Fox One again
😂
The heavy breathing really added to the intensity
Hollywood seems to often leave out the heavy breathing due to adrenaline and high pucker factor.
That's because they're pulling a bunch of G s .
It’s interesting to hear the G forces in the pilots voice as he tries to say the word tone. Savage encounter.
Fox 1 : semi active radar guided missile
Fox 2 : infrared guided missile
Fox 3 : active radar guided missle
Fox 4 : guns (or guns guns guns)
Josh Casey i was an aircarft fitter and armer for the uk i used to arm the old we had tornados and euro fighters. We were doing a scramble test and i broke my ankle so i gave it up and quit. By the way Angels means altitude 5 angels means 5000 feet. And fox 3 is active radar guided so aim 120s falls into fox 3 not fox 4
thanks
This wasn't a dogfight...it was a rabid pit bull fighting a senile old cat
still a dog fight, this time an old senile grandpa brought his cat to the ring.
1989 version of fuck around and find out.
The missile knows where it is at all times
It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is - whichever is greater - it obtains a difference or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position that it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is is now the position that it wasn't, and if follows that the position that it was is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information that the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it know where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
I keep seeing people say that “Americans shouldn’t have been in Libyan airspace” well they weren’t. Happened in international waters.
Exactly. Though i do wonder what caused the migs to attack the tomcats
Natheria the Tomcats had been part of a combat air patrol from the carrier USS John F. Kennedy. The Libyans didn’t like that aircraft and the carrier itself crossed their “line of death” which was a claim they took as part of their territorial waters(Cross this and military action will ensue). Even though no other country recognized their claim because it was well past the set standard and it also claimed waters that actually did belong to other countries. The day in question the John Kennedy was 120 miles north of the Libyan shore and had aircraft 80 miles away from their shore. On their way to make port in Israel(another thing the Libyans took offense at). At the time the US had an airborne early warning and control in the sky above the carrier group. It detected the take off of two Libyan Migs that right after take off they turned to a intercept heading directly right at the USS John F Kennedy. That’s when the two F-14’s from the CAP dispatched to intercept them. At the time Libyans pilots where known to break contact once the on board radar signal sweep of an American fighter. So a fight was not expected but was prepared for. Then you can take it from here with the video of what happened. Libyans didn’t break contact.
@@natheria4933 global warming 😅😂🤣
GAcolo216 thank you
waters? never knew an F14 was a ship ...