Lightweight Iron Shafts - Nippon, Project X, Accra
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txg.ca - Testing the Nippon Modus 105, Project X LZ, Accra 105 and Project X Pxi iron shafts to see what ball flight differences can be seen with each using the same iron head. These shafts were designed for the largest segment of golfers, so many viewers will find a very good option for their own iron set right here in this video!
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser & Matt Blois
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I’m updating my post from a few days ago. Chris and I finished the driver fit and we’ve gained 20 yards, a higher ball flight and WAY more forgiveness. For a 70 year old golfer who hasn’t played in 10 years that’s a lot. By my calculations I’m only 105 yards behind Matt...but I have a killer short game!
We also tested graphite and steel iron shafts. We got great results with the Nippon Zelos7 steel shaft. Higher launch, steeper descent and no loss of distance. The most important thing for me was the reduced stress on my right elbow. It’s a very light shaft with a kick at the bottom; this allowed me to accelerate through the ball with much less effort.
One unexpected benefit of going through this process was discovering what I’m doing properly in my swing. My path through the ball gives me mostly straight shots or ones with a manageable draw.
To sum up, this was a very positive experience. For the first time in 25 years of golf, I’ve got clubs that will allow me to think about the game rather than planning shopping trips to the candy store.
Thanks TXG and Chris for his patient and encouraging approach to everything.
👍👍👍
Thank you. i can only ad that playing with graphite shafted irons (UST 780 recoil in stiff) has helped me smoothing out joint problems. i can now play 18 or even 36 holes again! performance is maybe even better, but i suspect this has more to do with being able to keep hold to the club...
Super job again chaps. I tried Project X 6, Modus 105 stiff and XP105 stiff. Ended up with Modus 105 and best suited to my swing speed with 7 iron of 89.4. So pleased with the results and performance, and as you guys keep saying so important to "Get Fitted"
Can you do a test on soft stepping and hard stepping? Would be curious to see hard data on how much change it really makes. Thanks!
My switch to graphite a couple months ago is turning out to be the best thing I could do. Recoil 95’s, in a JPX900 forged irons and T7 wedges. I’m more accurate, more consistent, able to work the ball better, less tired at the end of a round, and most importantly, 95% of the pain I was experiencing in my wrists, elbows, and shoulder are gone. Put your silly ego aside, and just try it.
Good info. Just got an iron set with N.S. Pro modus3 105’s.
I just picked up my new i210’s this morning. I was fitted but we used DG S300’s in the fitting session. I assumed when my pings came in they would have the s300’s in them.
They had Modus3 105 stiffs tho.
I was pretty ticked off. Thought I got the “shaft” ;). Didn’t know anything about Nippon.
Thankfully, I went and played them anyways and absolutely loved the shaft. High launch (for me), higher swing speed, predictable through the whole set, and obviously more distance. There were no hits where a felt a different kick suddenly. I’m sticking with them.
I’m coming from KBS tours in TM RSI2’s.
Stats - my handicap raised from a 7 to a 14 this year due to a decline in play and practice this past 2 years (injury and a new business).
7iron swing speed about 78 to 81 mph.
Im in my early 40’s with a body that can get stiff mid round.
what weight KBS shaft did you game before mate ?
I'm in the KBS 120 stiff right now but not enjoying them. used to use kbs tour 90's but a tad to light.
seriously looking at the modus 105 stiff.
like yourself I'm mid 40's and the body does get wrecked mid round
Well done!
I've played the Modus 105 in stiff this season and seems like im sticking to them. Used to play S300, but I'm just not strong enough for those. My tempo is so much better with the Modus 105.
Also, would love to see a video comparing the different colors of the Oban Kiyoshi driver shafts.
Played the Nippon NS1050s and loved the way my balls kept climbing until they fell out of the sky with no roll. Then with my new irons went to the TT Dynamic Gold s200 and absolutely hated them. No accuracy, sloppy, and tended to pull and draw. Ball flight low and shotgun dispersion and distance. Tried the new Modus 105 and so happy to be back with a Nippon shaft. Surgical.
Hi, I know this is a while ago, but wondered what your swing speed with a 6 iron is? And an idea of your tempo?
@@willfieldiii7150 I'm a 85-88 mph 6 iron swing speed. My tempo is more quick than smooth. Moved to the KBS Tour 90. Still, the modus 105 is great!
@@ocke94 interesting, thanks for replying.
I'm a smooth tempo 89/90mph 6 iron, I have been playing a kbs tour 120 stiff, after recently trying a modus 105 stiff, the difference is unreal, just ordered new irons because of it.
Most I know are playing a heavier shaft, I thought I was a bit odd 😂
@@willfieldiii7150 find the weight that suits you. I gravitate towards lighter shafts.
Went on the Mizuno shaft optimizer 6 different times and ended up w/the project X 5.5's in my JPX 919 HM's. I'm about a 14-15 and my 6 iron goes around 155-160. They seem to feel good.
I played a taylormade 200 series iron with a s90 shaft (90 grams) through high school and college. Never thought about golf shaft before. After 12 years of playing those I was looking into a new set and since I’m a high swing speed player everything I read said I needed something like project x 6.0 or s300. I hit driver about 320 (305 carry). So I bought a set and tried them for like 2 years. The extra weight seemed like more work and my miss went from slightly toe side to deep heel and occasional shank. Tried working on my swing because I assumed that’s why it was. Well last year a looked up the specs of my old taylormades because I hit them so well, and ended up getting my set re shafted with an 85 gram graphite shaft. Had them tipped to an x flex and the last year has been the best ball striking of my life. My theory is I developed my golf swing with the light weight shafts and that’s what my brain is accustomed too. My dispersion is tighter and the graphite’s are very kind to the body. Just sharing this story to let people know to try a few different shafts across the spectrum. Just because a shaft is designed for a specific player doesn’t mean it will fit you or your swing.
You guys set me up with the Srixon Z565's with the NS Pro 950 and I couldn't be happier! The club feels and performs great with the lighter shaft! Back in on Tuesday for the "check up", can't wait.......
This was FUN to watch because I recently replaced a set of Titleist 990 B Irons (Rifle 5.5 Shafts) with Titleist 718 AP2 (Project X LZ 5.5 Shafts). I have 5 - 9 Irons, (put a Titleist 917 F2 21* into my bag as a 4 Iron replacement) with a 46-08 and 50-08 Vokey SM6, also with the P X LZ 5.5 Shafts.
My 54-10 V Grind and 58-06 K Grind have the P X LZ 5.0 shafts.
I find my Carry Yardage with the 6 Iron is a little farther than Matt's results (I do realize that Matt dialed his Swing Speed down) but I Don't Get that 20 yards roll out that Matt was getting.
When I hit a green, my ball (ProV1X) checks quicker.
Guessing this is due to playing on Softer Greens than your Simulator is set for???
I would be like to know what the Stimpmeter number is on your "target green".
Thanks, Guys. I enjoyed this.
would love you to do something on wedge shafts. I think its often overlooked. Mfgs sell wedges typically in one stock shaft as if that shaft works as well for a 1 hcp and a 20. And I would bet wedges are played more than any club in the bag other than a putter!
Yup it's on our list. At the moment we don't have an interchangeable shaft system for wedges, so not something we can test fully quite yet.
Im around 7hcp and SS around 85-90. I sweep and pick the ball.
I m into Little havier driver shaft, light S not to flexy iron shaft, and more regular wedge shaft..because im not use full swing in the wedge game. I Think that a stable tip works best for me. I look at Ad di shaft or Diamana BF or ATMOS BLUE in driver. NS tour Modus 105 s and LZ 5.5 for wedge play. I Will buy without fitting, so these shows you are giving are a great help :)
I have Shimada shafts in my Vega wedges. Love how they’re stepless externally like the PX shafts.
Hey guys ... in this test i personally feel it's needed to show the affect on the shafts IF the golfer shopping them ads OR loses swing speed after buying them... say 10 miles up and down... someone swinging around 80 at the test might gain speed within a year .. or much faster... or for any reason lose some speed. But as always a great video ... no guys on the planet would or will do this better AND as interesting :) Thx...
Nice info but get fitted like they said. My buddy loves my custom fitted g400 driver and tried to put together for himself by using M2 with the same shaft and adding weight to the head since the head was lighter. End result? It’s all jacked up. He gets to use my driver but gives me a couple of strokes for usage fee. 😁
I wish i'd seen this before, i did what i did. I had a set of 714 MB's, with c-taper tour lite shafts. Heads were terribly unforgiving from bad lies, and long grass, so I sold them and bought a set of 712 CB's, with S300 shafts. Complete night and day effect. I've cured the forgiveness part, but at a cost of adding weight. So going from a driver off the tee, to a second with an iron, feels like i'm lifting bricks. It just feels so bad. Perfect combo would have been CB heads on the KBS shafts. But you live and learn, that hard way in the used market.
Played the Shimada shafts in my Vega wedges this season, was a delight to use and a nice clean look.
I got fitted into the Modus Tour 105 X flex. It lowered my 7 iron spin from 7200 to 6300.
Went from 115mph to 123mph ball speed 😮
Aerotech steel fiber I series? Just got fitted before Christmas and in a purely blind test of several irons, the JPX 921 forged paired with the i95 stiff or even the i80 x stiff performed incredibly well. I was blown away by how well these graphite shafts worked.
Tough to find fitters with this level of expertise, service, and patience. Had two fittings at Club Champion in Chicago, both of which failed to live up to expectations set by this channel. Two different fitters, several years apart (thought something good from TXG might rub off on Club Champion as a result of the merger) but essentially the same lack 13:17 of expertise and emphasis on costly upgrades. I realize this is how they make their money. But for the merger to be effective, Ian’s model needs to be adopted by CC. So far, it hasn’t happened.
I’m just finishing up my driver fitting in Burlington and decided to go for an iron fitting as well. I have AP1 irons with their stock AMT Red r-flex shaft. I get a nice ball flight, ok distance but I feel that I have to swing harder and faster than I should. That shaft is 95 grams, I believe. I’ve developed an elbow problem since I started using these clubs so my objective is not so much distance or accuracy as it is staying healthy. I assume I’ll be looking at graphite.
Thanks for a very timely video.
Would really like to see you do this with the Nippon N.S. Pro 950 GH Neo Stiff (98 grams) and the Nippon N.S. Zelos 6 Stiff (weight 69 grams). In a test of Nippon irons from the lightest (Zelos 6) to the heaviest (130), all stiff flex, done by a pro master fitter with good swing speed who normally uses a Nippon 120, the Zelos gave the longest distance, highest trajectory, and highest spin, and the 950 GH Neo came in a close second. Seems like that would make either one a very serious contenders for average handicap golfers.
The accra 105.... very interested in those. definitely want to test those at some point.
I would love to know your take on Nippon ns pro neo 950.
Gotta say, I miss hearing the “Overture of Matt Blois” playing during the testing portion of the videos. Hope that comes back! Great video once again!
Also, was fitted to Oban iron shafts a few months ago and they are awesome for me. Went with Recoil shafts secondary to some tendinitis issues.
😆 it's back in a video we're releasing next week actually!
I see a lot of the new clubs on the rack are using TT xp90 or xp95. Any thoughts particularly on these shafts?
I am around 90-93 with the driver and tried the LZ 5.5 in the Ping I210 and the IBlade. Tried it against the AWT regular shaft which I currently play in my G irons. Got plenty of height and more stability with a lot of distance. Are these reinforced in the tip and butt making the middle more active? Reminded me of the Tensei Orange driver shaft. Thank you so much for this video! I never would have thought to even try this shaft! Keep up the great work! Much appreciated!
I’ve always felt that since I bought my MP-18 irons the Nippon 950 shafts were too light for me. I hit a 30 deg 6 iron about 165 so being in a 98 gram shaft just seems crazy now that I realize what I was fit into.
Thanks interesting, my short irons are in Nikon Zelos 7 and long irons in zelos 8, these work well, good balance, I have them in a stiff and I feel comfortable with them. I tried the Accra but could not get along with it. I recently bought a Mizuno MP18 fly high and it came with a KBS taper light 110 stiff which I really like. I was fitted and glad I was as I really had the wrong ideas just reading about it
@TXG would be really interested to know the difference between Modus 105-S and 120-S when 120-S is soft stepped? How does it change the ball flight characteristics?
Love that you did this video. Played s300 growing up and was out into kbs tour s+ for about 8 years. The last set I bought this past summer they didn't seem concerned with shaft weight. Told me that the dynamic gold 105 s was the best for the irons I bought. Not sure that's the case. I've adjusted but they feel light. Thoughts? I'm a 5 former college player with some better than avg speed.
Would be worth testing heavier shafts and comparing results, lighter is not necessarily suited to everyone especially if you've got some speed.
Hey guys. I currently play PX 6.0 lz in my irons. The tip feels way to stiff but liked the overall weight. Hitting higher irons 8-w felt way to stiff. I hit the modus 120 with the srixon 785 irons and the 105 but he only had it in R. So the fitter was putting ctaper into the srixon saying its the same shaft as the modus 105. I stopped the fitting and left because he in my opinion doesn't know the shaft profile. I swing 7 iron 80 mph I am a 2 handicap, 53 yrs old. I swing pretty quick. I want your opinion on what you think would be the best. Being I have quick action under pressure I am afraid to go to the 105. Thanks for all of your professionalism.
Another great video. I am curious to hear more on your view of ascending mass shafts. I have a set of Nippon 880 AMC in a 5-gap wedge in a Titleist AP3/2 combo set that I have been playing this summer. It sounds like you prefer constant weight.
Would love to see a close up on the dispersions in future films - in particularly when all four flight and dispersions are quite similar.
It gives a great thought and reminder to bring with me both when practising but also when testing something.
Hopefully a feature that will be added to the software at some point in the future!
I never even thought about shaft weight (and some other things) before. My irons are the RBZ max with regular graphite shafts. Looked at the shafts and I think they are only 55 grams. It's strange that they never seemed light to me. Maybe it's because I'm almost 61 years old. Have no idea what my club head swing swing speed is. I tried out a different club with a "senior" shaft, but it felt so whippy and the club head lagged behind so much that the club head wasn't at the ball when I expected it to be. It was an RBZ stage 2 #3 hybrid. Sorry that I wrote a novelette. :)
All my clubs have regular flex. My driver has a graphite 52g shaft, love it, my hybrids have 59g graphite shafts, love them. My irons have 72 gram graphite shafts from a different manufacturer, not so happy, especially with 6 iron and above (fades, fades, fades). Should I get irons shafts from same manuafacturer of the other shafts I love or simply go with a slightly lower weight iron shaft than what I have.
Have you done a challenge between mmt and steel fiber shafts?
Only just discovered your channel, but loving the quality and depth of knowledge in the videos. Just out of curiosity, what are your feelings on the C Taper Lite which would just about squeeze into the 'lightweight' range. Thanks.
I'd be interested in regular versus stiff flex numbers as swung by iron Matt.
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I second this request
Third!
Great video again guys, awesome info! How do I book a fitting with Ian? Coming over from the U.K. in September? Thanks
Give us a call at (416) 331-9229 or email info@txg.ca to book, look forward to having you visit us Paul!
Thanks guys have already sent an email with dates. I am looking for full bag fit with Ian on Thursday 13th September if possible. Will call tomorrow. Thanks
I would have been important and helpful if you had measured and the shaft cpm for each 6i and the 4 shafts.
I’ve tested the Modus 105’s on a launch monitor in a Mizuno MP-18. I typically use stiff in my irons (dg s300) but found the x flex of the 105 performed the best for me and yes my club speed did significantly go up when using that shaft. However when I tried x100’s, or any other heavy shaft in x-flex, I got horrible results. Is this something that is common?
Shaft flex only really relates to the flex of the shaft within it's own spec. While one spec of shift in the 'stiff' option will be stiffer than the 'regular' in that specific shaft, it might align with 'regular' in another spec of shaft.
In the case of the Modus 105 vs the X-100, there is a massive difference of weight and bend profiles. The X100 'X-Stiff' is definitely not the same as the Modus 105 'X-Stiff'.
The weight of the shaft, and swing weight of the club you tried can also be completely different. This is why fittings are so important.
I've been fitted a couple times for Mizuno irons, the Modus 105 shafts were recommended once and the PX LZ 6.0 were recommended the other time. The major difference, besides feel and launch angle, was backspin. With a 7 iron I am getting 5500 rpm with PX and 4600 with the 105's. What is the more desirable spin rate? Carry distance and total distance was +2 & +3 yds further respectively with the 105's on the trackman.
Hope to see some KBS love on the channel soon!
Do you guys ever fit people for the tempo they want to accomplish and not the one they have? like if they were getting lessons and trying to smooth out the swing? According to SS I should probably play an X flex but choose to play a dynamic gold 5.5 because the way the shaft feels it encourages a smoother swing which helps my balance and ultimately strike point and thus distance consistency.
For sure, part of every fitting is a conversation with the golfer about what they're looking to achieve. Important to help a player work towards improving their game through equipment and swing changes.
Tiger said it best. If you want shoot higher, you need to swing your hands over your head. Height is mostly technique.
I changed from pxi 6.0, to LZ 6.0. I like them, came stock in my 718 CB's I purchased this year. My 8iron is 155 carry. Is that good? My miss is a hook, but it's less now compared to the pxi. The LZ goes straighter I think. They feel great! I do have the 4 and 5i in tmb 716 s300 amt, b/c that was what came in them, should I reshaft my lower irons? Thanks I love this channel!
Great video. Should I consider a heavier shaft with an iron swing speed of 85 to 87 mph?
Depends more on your delivery, extra weight can help an over the top tendency for example.
Thanks, I was interested to see the total distance v carry. Okay spin rates are a bit low but the Modus carry of 148yds and total 169yds. Really? That's 21yds rollout, must be very firm greens up there!
There did not appear to be much variance between them guys. Credit to the Iron Byron!!!!!!
Currently playing XP 95 shafts, I am thinking about trying a heavier shaft to help with my tempo. I tend to jump on the ball and get a little over the top. I was told that a heavier shaft might help activate my lower body better. would you agree with this concept?
Heavier shaft could help with the over the top tendency, absolutely.
I understand that 80 mph is typical for these shafts with a 6 iron but how would they perform with say 85-88 mph. Would the increase in distance out weigh the loss in accuracy, if any?? Great video!!
Would depend on that individual's swing characteristics (tempo, plane, etc.) - some might be fine in this weight range with more speed, but for others it may lead to inconsistencies.
Shaft wall thickness? Nunchuk xi iron shafts wall construction is also very thick. Can you comment on why go this design route as it appears to have been done for a few years.
very great job guys
trying to decide between tensi silver senior or project x catalyst in my new epic forged irons both senior
I realise you were testing heavier ones but a la the iron vs graphite shaft debate what are your thoughts and testing of the new true temper project x catalyst shaft (iso 6) - up to 80 gms- The tip-section of which ostensibly delivers torsional resistance comparable to that of steel (material symmetry 75% of steel)
Haven't had a chance to test that new model yet, hopefully something we can do on the channel soon
Great video and presentation as always guys. Question regarding a comment you made about driver swing speed vs 6 iron. Ian said that someone that swings driver around 90 mph will swing typically swing 6 iron about 80 mph. In an earlier video I recall you saying that better / faster players will see about a 20 mph gap. Does that gap tend to increase as swing speed increases? Curious because I swing driver 105 mph and 6 iron 90 mph with what I would consider a medium tempo. Is a 15 mph gap at those speeds about what one should see?
For sure, a faster player will usually see a bigger gap between 6 iron and driver (i.e. 15-20mph)
So do you think the Modus shaft is good for players who are in between a stiff and regular shaft?
By the way in other clips I sW you rave about the TPT shafts but in various test and fitting clips I did not see these tried out amongst the choices? Though I recall a reference to the fact that Matt has a TPT shaft in his driver?
Yes TPT shafts are very good, but they don't currently make shafts for anything but drivers.
Really helpful, thanks for doing this comparison. Regarding the Modus 105, many reviews say it plays soft to its stated flex and that the S flex is more like an R+. Have you guys found that to be the case?
Also, 20 yards difference between carry and total distance seems like a lot for a 6 iron?
Just the ground simulation on the software, wouldn't roll that much in real conditions. The ball was also landing on the fairway portion in most cases which is firmer. Wouldn't rely on reviews of how the Modus plays, only way to confirm how it will perform for your swing is to test it
new shafts shimada and oban: yes!
Guys just got new set MP20 MMC with Recoil 50 reg shaft. Played Steelfiber I95 in old Titleist TMB. Seem to have lost feel for the head. Thought about going to Nippon 95 steel. Your thoughts
So. I was fit into the modus 120 stiff. And my order comes in with the NS PRO 980GH S. Any thoughts on this? Lol.
Another great informative vid👍 Keep them coming. I’m thinking of going to a lighter shaft change. Currently I’m playing x100 in Titleist 716 cbs. What are your thoughts with the cbs with Modus 3 tour 120 x or Dynamic Gold 120 x?
Modus 120 is very good, different profile than the DG so make sure you demo both
Can you Compare modus 105 vs c-taper lite iron shaft sometime soon
This would be incredible
Can you help to review R300 ,modus 105 ,project x IO and kbs 105 . Thanks
Oban is a superb single malt scotch. It will definitely improve your game, if not your score. LOL.
What about the aerotech i95's? Are they constant weight or are they descending weight? I have been told that they play a little stiff to flex. Is that correct? Love your videos.
I have Accra 70i graphite shafts in my irons. It’s a set of Nike VRS Forged that I got second hand. I can’t find any info on the specs of the shafts. Are they super light? Are they a regular flex? I would love to find out some info on them.
I’m currently games the NS Modus 105 in my Mizuno MP18. I’m having a higher than I’d like ball flight. Would I be better going heavier to lower the flight. I do love the feel of the shafts. Mizuno DNA fitted me it’ll this weight
Possibly Glen but likely not going to see a big peak height difference by increasing the weight of the shaft unless it's by a very large amount.
TXG Tour Experience Golf cheers guys. I’ve just changed to the Prov1x from the TP5. I’m guessing this will have a bigger impact based on your recent videos on low and high spinning balls?
For sure Glen! A ball change can change the flight quite drastically.
Thank you.
Can you guys throw up retail prices on these reviews? ROI from both a cost and performance perspective is a pivital move for most of us - IMO.
Hey guys what shaft flex would you say from irons at 88mph with a 7 iron and 105 with a driver?
How about steelfiber shafts like aero Tech?
Hi Ian, I am from Malaysia. Have been following your channel with great interest and had benefited a lot from you and Matt. I am interested in buying the newest Calloway forged e19 iron set. Considering the distance, not feasible to be physically present at PXG for the fitting. How can u assist me please? I am 62 playing to handicap 10. Driver swing speed about 95mph. Currently playing a Wishon 560mc forged iron set (KBS 95g regular shaft) for many years. Serving me quite well but with age catching up, need to gain some distance. Driver cobra F9 go about 225 meters on average, 6 iron about 145 meters on average. Appreciate if you could assist in anyway. Thanks
Hi. I just bought the Mizuno JPX 919 Tour irons with NS PRO TOUR 105 stiff. I played Titleist CB 718 with KBS C-Taper 110 Stiff. What difference can I feel? Fitting told me Project X 6.0 but its heavy! My elbow starts hurting really bad, so I need a lighter shaft. Any thoughts? PLEASE NEED HELP!!!!
What do you think of the recoil smacwrap
Another great video! But what I don't get is trying for a slower swing speed. It doesn't even look like Matt is releasing it, held off in a way. You know as well as I that the "average" golfer you're trying to emulate has no where near the smooth held off release as Matt does. Why not just be what it is and have Matt swing normal with lightweight X flex and show the results. To me that would have a greater basis to compare from for the average amateur golfer. Furthering that, the average golfer, 20 capper is not on plane and doesn't hit the middle. So as much as I like the amazing detail and attention to data, Matt's "average" golfer swing speed is nothing remotely compared to the real average golfer.
It's really just about simulating a slower swing speed and ball speed to give ball flight results relevant to the range of players that would likely be fitted to these shafts. We've been very particular and thorough with simulating the delivery as best we can, so you're getting data from what is essentially a player that swings the 6 iron 80mph, but very consistently therefore giving the must usable data.
The general population is getting older and slower. Why bring someone to test lighter graphite iron shafts? I play Adila Pro 124, 75 grams, does the lighter weight cause more dispersion and not be as consistent. Thank you Stephen
How was the feeling at impact of the accra vs the steel shafts? Any noticeable differences, ie less harsh?
Quite smooth!
Good video
What is the difference between the modus 105 and the 120 Besides weight? I play the modus120x on my mizuno mp18MB and recently added the fli hi 3 and 2 irons but in the mondus 105x thinking it’ll be easier to swing because it’s lighter but I’m not able to hit them as good as my MB’s.
The Modus105 and 125 have the same characteristics, not the120.
Ian what is the general differences between a stiff and a regular flex say with a s300 dynamic gold....spin, launch etc?
More likely to be differences in the way they influence the swing delivery, for example R300 is lighter than S300 which is lighter than S400, etc.
TXG Tour Experience Golf but if delivery was the similar, same aoa, dynamic loft, etc would the regular produce more spin and possibly higher flight?
Exact same delivery would produce the same spin/launch, what you might see though is that the regular shaft in testing would cause more dynamic loft to be delivered, therefore increasing launch/spin. That's just in theory though, lots of factors involved. Think of the shaft more in terms of helping your timing and consistency of delivery, the clubhead itself is what will produce the launch/spin.
TXG Tour Experience Golf tyvm 👍👍👍
hi Ian, great vid! any thoughts on how steelfiber i110s would compare?
Just got fitted last week and wow was it eye opening. 7I swing speed was averaging 81-82 carrying 155. My question is I was taken out of an s300 shaft and put into a kbs tour 90 stiff. I was told that with a shallow angle of attack 2.8 down on average that a lighter shaft and more active tip section it would optimize my ball flight. The numbers didn’t lie 8-10 extra carry yards and 10 yards higher peak height. Does this sound correct or were they just trying to sell me haha! Great video
2 sides to the coin, people that use a heavier shaft assuming you hit it fairly well, when you put them into a light a lighter shaft they will most certainly gain some yardage but more importantly confidence. accomplished players, scratch and tour lvl, they will have marginal gains but they will eventually normalize back to their old levels and in some cases actually lose distance because they are essentially holding back. rule of thumb, use the heaviest shaft that you can control and swing fast. don't go lighter for the sake of speed, or heavier because you buddies make fun of you when you use lighter shafts.
Mitch Y thanks for the reply! I went and got a second opinion fitting with mizuno (glad I did) went with the modus 3 105 stiff hard stepped. At the end of the fitting I was averaging 86 mph with my 7iron and just like you said the tour 90 when I swing the way I want to was just too light/sloppy and I lost dispersion. The 105 stiff hard stepped was a perfect weight at which I could swing freely and the way I would if I was on the course. Very happy with the results and the nippon modus 3 105 is such a smooth feeling shaft highly recommend if you are looking at the lighter weight shafts.
Will a stiffer shaft give you more ball speed (to a certain point)?
Depends on the individual's swing, for some it might deliver less ball speed
TXG Tour Experience Golf
Thanks for the answer, and the videos, great stuff 👍
Good video Guys! Keep it up.
What would you say about someone with a faster SS (say 100-110 driver) to use the S-flex variety of these shafts?
You made some comments about just slower swing speeds, but I have seen some of the faster SS players on the LPGA using the Modus 105 with driver SS of 100-110. Is something you would recommend? As it seems you point toworrds swing speeds in this range to using a 120'ish g shafts.
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All depends on the individual's swing. Tempo, transition, delivery characteristics, etc. There's certainly faster players that would find these shafts to be good performers.
that makes sense, it would be a nice video for faster SS players using lighter shafts like on the Asian tour and LPGA. What are the Pros and Cons?
Cool stuff
What do you think of nippon art 2.0?
Awt
Will you do 70 to 90 grams shaft with stiff tip? Due my disability I can not swing any shaft heavy than 90 grams. Thanks
Yup probably something we'll review at some point
That's great! Thanks Guys.
How do c taper lite fit here?
@txg I swing my 6 iron at 90mph an only hit it around 150 yards, I feel like the ball just goes straight up in the air then falls out the sky, I have a R300 95 dynamic gold shafts, what do you think I should do
I play 8 year old Mizuno mx1000 also
Demo a stronger lofted modern iron set with a stiffer profile shaft, should see the ball flight flatten out considerably and fly farther.
Are there any ascending weight graphite shafts on the market at the moment or coming soon? I've had some great luck with the TT AMT shafts but would love to try graphite.
Sorry Matt, what was the Head you were using for the testing? I replayed the Vid a few times, but I couldn`t catch what you were saying and didn't recognise the head. PS excellent Vid as usual
Titleist AP2 718 - 6 iron head
Cheers Clarky, I must be going deaf as well as daft.
Titleist 718 AP2
Many thanks Christopher
Get it together Bandit, is the sound on?? 😆😆😆😆😆
not a single button undone
Bring back Sam, for slower swing tests....
It is not feasible to use a person with an inconsistent golf swing to test equipment. Their swings are too variable to give proper data that isolates the performance of the equipment, which is the point of doing an equipment review.
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Great video thanks guys, any chance of a video for iron shafts, for people that swing in the 70 to 80 mph range with a driver?
Yup always a chance!
I will never buy a true temper shaft again. Their chrome process is horrendous. Every true temper shaft I have has rusted through the chrome. Total garbage!