MAACO paint job
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- today on this guys garage we give some insight what its like to be a painter at Maaco . we give some consumer advice to get the best bank for buck as well as some useful tricks i learned and still use to this day . i did enjoy the work i did there .
I paid $1350.00 at a Maaco in Mountain View CA to paint my 71 Plymouth Satellite .The color was butterscotch,I already had all the plastic trim taken off , and 95% of the small dings filled in , they did a fantastic job, they baked the car after they painted it , they sprayed the inner fender/ engine bay .. This paint job still looks great ,it was painted in 2004 !
Every macco is different, some do exert themselves and do a good job, some are pitiful. It depends on the people they hire.
Today they are basically Earl Shieb quality
I did all the prep and sanding, took my car over to Maaco spotless. They did a great job really cheap. So happy I did it same place with a different car a couple years later.
The main differentiator between ANY paint job is the 'prep' and how much they disassemble or take off the car. If you go to one of those places it's best to stick with the same color you have, which is usually good advice anyway unless you have a shell.
@@rosewd2 That's 100% true. I think they're franchises.
I started as a detailer at Maaco for 6 months, started painting for them with no knowledge what so ever, trained for 3 days with a veteran painter. I’ve been painting cars ever since. I have several videos of my paint jobs I had done at Maaco. They can have a bad name but if you get a painter that cares it goes a long ways.
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Everyone seems caring when they’re talking your money with a smile on their face
I had a muscle car painted by Maaco back in the late 1990's. I talked to the owner of the shop before I had them do it. He could tell I wanted a good job done on the car and he assured me they would do a great job on it and if I wasn't happy he would redo it. The car turned out great. I still have it and it has won numerous trophies over the years at car shows.
Very cool!
Around 1992 I had Maaco put paint on a 1951 Chevy pickup truck I had. I had already done all of he body work, and had a failed attempt with Acrylic Enamel. I had never shot it before and had orange peel everywhere. I bought a cheap paint job, but probably because it was a classic vehicle, they actually did a spectacular job. When I went to get it, they had it in a fenced in grass area in front of their shop, sort of like an advertisement for them. The work was fantastic, and it was a $300 paint job back then, I think the cheapest they offered. They may have done a better job on it for their own reasons, but I have never regretted having them paint that truck. It was beautiful.
If you can't spray without getting orange peel everywhere, then paint the car orange. Then you can say that that's the look that you were going for.
"I'm Earl Scheib, and I'll paint any car, any color for $29.95. No ups and no extras." (1960's)
I had them paint a Ford Fairmount for me back in like 87. By then it was $100. Honestly it was a decent job. It looked good when I sold it a few years later.
back in my day it was $99.95 and the shop in my city... Let's just say you'd been better off going to home center and gettin a couple rattle cans for less money. they did zero prep, majority of their pain jobs pealed and flaked just after the warranty expired. scratches and dings, yeah, you would have shiny painted scratches and dings. no body work, no sanding, no primer, just hit it with color and send you on your way
@@Mikej1592
The expectation was that the car owner would do all prep work including taping off and covering of doors and windows. They would only spray the paint. Everyone knew that. I did all my own prep work and had no problem with the work they did. I’m sure some guys did a better job spraying than others but in the end it was a good service and a good value. I wish they were still around today.
Absolutely I remember, I'll paint any car any color .69.95 no ups no extras.Scheib
Earl Scheib, his motto was for $99.99 I paint the top, l paint the bottom, l paint the windows
I had a 1974 Triple Black Monte Carlo painted in 1979 and it still has a High Gloss Shine to this day 👍👍 it’s Crazy I still have it today ✌️
Probably a better quality of paint used back then.
Is it a lowrider? Is it a big block th400?
No Lowrider Triple Black with White walls & Wire Wheels has the 400 in it.
nice🎉
Damn, how old are you...80?
Good video. I was a Maaco dealer with 32 stores in the Southeast. In my stores, we did not stock any enamel paint. I found it easier to deal with and more cost effective to use urethane only. With the volume buying I was doing, my suppliers gave great prices on paint material. Axalta was our brand. I found that quality among Maaco dealers is totally up to the culture established by the leaders in a particular store. Unfortunately not all take enough pride in their work and the whole brand suffers for it.
Nason is the best for hig volume work!
Well I live in the SouthEast and my local Maaco which you might own did a terrible job on my car. I will never go back to them again. Car wasn't properly taped with tons of overspray. Parts painted that shouldn't have been. Overall crap work.
I live in Conway South Carolina (16 miles west of Myrtle Beach). I plan on doing most of the prep work myself, what is the most critical areas that need special attention for a good paint job. It's a 2005 Nissan Maxima.
In 1985 I had a 1964 Falcon painted at Maaco. I did all the body work and laid down the primer panel-by-panel. Brought the car in without the bumpers and chrome all removed. They did a damn nice job. I wish I still had that car. :(
I was a painter for macco for about 1 and a half years in the 1980s and our shop was featured shop in Sacramento CA and we did a commercial that featured Robert stack from unsolved mysteries 😅 and back then we used to use nason paint we had synthetic and enamel and and our best paint was Sherwin Williams ultra Base seven!! And before my macco days I used to paint Big rigs and garbage trucks!! And I was really fast at laying down the paint and I was always the first one there and the last one to leave because some bodymen would finish their job at the end of the day and I would paint it so they could put it back together in the morning!!! 😢 And in the summer months we had sweep week where used car dealerships would get there cars painted and I believe that 17 car painted in one day was the most I did!! And I remember having the raise my arm so the sweat would run down my suit and not on the hood of a car when I was painting the hood of a car!!! I sweated so much that when I pulled my paint sleeve of my suit sweat would run down my shoes 😢and that was a hard job and in was worse in the summer because of the heat and oven next to the spray Booth!!
You still paint ?
@@deenice8243 only on my personal things. I still turn a wrench for a living.
Ah ok I’m in Sacramento and was looking to get my car painted
I would turn my paint suit inside out, hose it down, let it dry until the next day. Don't miss that anymore
Madison Ave in fair Oaks lol I grew up in Sacramento in the 70s, 80s and 90s I remember Nason paint
Had 4 cars painted by Maaco in the past an was thrilled with the results.. Dodge Van,, Chevy Monte, Chevy Suburban, Cadillac Brougham...Best Bang For The Buck.
Can you change the color of your car? All I see on the website are the different qualities of redoing your cars current color.
@@MagnumDB you can paint any color you want, but color changes are expensive when you get into door jams and hood /trunk areas. Unless you are cool with seeing the old color when you open the doors... 👍
Can they spray bed liner style material on accessories and such or on rocker panels?
I want to get some damage ony Monte Carlo fixed. Thinking about Maaco!!
How much did u pay for the van?
It's nice of them to paint the mufflers especially considering how little paint you actually get.
Color-matched exhaust tip..... NICE!
It's like getting the extra french fries in the bag when you get food at McDonalds.
I absolutely hate clearcoat. I work in an auto restoration shop. I'm a mechanic, I don't do bodywork, paint, interior, stuff like that. They have others that do that. I have seen a LOT of 1960s/1970s cars with original paint, it may have been a bit faded, but could be brought back with just some polishing. Newer cars with clearcoat, the clearcoat burns off in 3-4 years, and cannot be polished out, the car has to be repainted. Metallic paints are also bad to fade in spots, and can't be brought back by polishing/buffing. Combine metallic paint with clearcoat, and you have a disaster. My 1993 tan colored (non metallic, non clearcoat) Chevy truck paint still looks like new after polishing. My metallic light blue with clearcoat 2006 Grand Marquis was only 3 years old when I bought it, and the clearcoat had already started burning off in spots. It's much worse now. I plan to keep this car forever, replacing engines, transmissions, whatever is necessary to keep it going. I'd like to have it repainted, but I am not happy with the Maaco paint jobs I've seen. Maybe I'm spoiled from seeing so many high end restorations. This is just a transportation car. It would cost more for a decent paint job than to replace the engine with a rebuilt long block, including labor, which I could do. The big problem I have with Maaco paint jobs, for what they cost, is not so much the quality of the paint where there is supposed to be paint, it's that they paint all kinds of places that are not supposed to be painted. I know masking is labor intensive, and that seems to be where they really cut corners.
@@oscarwinner2034 😅
@@geraldscott4302 I understand where you are coming from but it isn't clearcoat you are unhappy with, it is cheap paint you are unhappy with.
Quality clears will last for decades in the sun with no problems. Cheap clears will turn hazy and go bad really quick. What is the difference? UV additive, good clears have it cheap clears don't. I am friends with a paint chemist from PPG, he told me that the UV additive is extremely expensive for the good stuff. The best additive will never yellow or allow color fading at all.
I have cars I painted 30 years ago with top of the line clear and they sit outside in the SoCal sun with no issues, they still look great and I have not polished them, just keep them washed.
The problem with Maaco paint jobs is that you get what you pay for, it's priced that way for a reason.
Factory paint is not great anymore on lower priced cars too. Look at all of the newer Toyota Corollas with rusty roofs and oxidized top surfaces. The manufacturers are using cheaper paint, applying it minimally thin to maximize profits and give you a reason to buy a new car after 5 years.
Your Grand Marquis might have been repaired prior to you buying it. Spot repairs or "smart" repairs are common for used car dealers to make the car look good for the sale but will not last like an I-CAR or otherwise certified repair procedure/material. Certified bodyshops are required to guarantee their work and materials for life. The high-end refinish repairs will outlast factory paint any day.
The quality clears are expensive, usually over $400 per gallon and it goes up from there. I paint my cars myself and I spring for the best materials. I typically spend $1500-1800 on materials alone. I have never had any problems with quality clears holding up to hot sun and neglect.
Buy once, cry once. You get what you pay for.
Right on yes you are correct I was a manager at a Macco we did not use low end paint we did urethan and Base coat clear coat …so we didn’t have to stock the low end paint ,we saves money and …yes every car got a gray sealer on it it was a fun place to work at in that time of learning … thanks for the memories….
Sounds exactly like my few months spraying at Maaco. Everyone likes to talk smack about them, but few have a clue how top notch their system is and quality can be, depending on your prep work, or how much you pay them to do. I came from a shop that specialized in restorations and high-end cars. Switching from taking a day to tape off a car and clean the booth, a day to spray the car, and days cutting and buffing for a award winning paint job to one car sprayed every hour was a nightmare for me. After a few weeks I was getting seven good cars in eight hrs but always had one with dirt or a run to fix. My cheat was seeing what jobs I needed to spray and then arranging them in order so I could fill the pressure pot with clear to use on all my base clear jobs. That was working great until I cut my fingers really bad and had to go to the emergency room. The manager sprayed my cars for the day, and until they hired a new painter.
When I went in to pickup my last pay check, because my gun hand needed to heal for a few months, the owner accused me of purposely cuttng myself and not telling anyone about the clear in the pressure pot, which had hardened up and destroyed it, because I wanted to sabatage him and collect workman's comp. He did this after I had put my heart and sole into trying to make his new business venture a success, and damn near killing myself trying to get 8 perfect paint jobs in 8 hrs everyday. It's a good thing the manager was 300lbs and between us when he accused me of this or I'd still be in prison for assault with intent, or worse.
Good video. It is refreshing to see you complementing the company rather than "running them down". I like it when you said you can't get a Chip Foose paint job for a Maaco price.
Entry level enamel is about $1500+ at Maaco now. Called several just to confirm. Really takes the value proposition down when the car is only worth about $2-3k after paint if everything else is in good shape. Rustoleum turbo cans are starting to look pretty good!
In 2018 it was $540 Everything is costing more but I make the same. 🤦♂️
I don't know where you live but I got a quote for a mid-grade job on my 2007 Honda Fit for right at $1000. I haven't done it yet but the quote was from 4 months ago so it might be time to move elsewhere.
@@imnitguy does that include prep work?
Do you also own a 1st gen 4 Runner? 😂
I just got quoted $2200 for the Urethane+integrated clear, I saw all these RUclips videos saying they paid like $1k, inflation is a bitch
I have been a automotive painter for 45 years and I can tell you 8 A/O's a day is total insanity , if I tried that I would not even have made it to the shower ! Great video my friend !
Ty Matt
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. There are a lot of very arrogant people on the internet (all of them self-proclaimed "experts") who do nothing but run down shops like Maaco, insisting that in order to get a good paint job, a person has to pay ten times what Maaco charges. Well, I have news for them, not everybody has that kind of money to spend on painting a car (glad the arrogant ones do). Also glad to see some people commenting here and reporting great paint jobs at a reasonable, affordable price.
That is just good old fashioned common sense my friend 👍 punn intended 😉
It all depends on the shop. I had a 1985 Olds painted in the early 90's. Metallic gray, color same as factory, and it looked showroom new. We moved and I had a 21 year old truck painted, and it looked great. We moved again, and I had a 1999 Avalon painted, and it was just an average paint job. All done by Maaco.
Dad got the $1100 top of the line job on his 1989 Black Toyota Supra, they had to keep it a couple days longer because according to the manager, he wasn't happy with the result. He must have had a new guy working. They did a great job, I seen the car for the first time four years after it was done and the car still looked great. Dad always garaged the car every night, he recommends MAACO, they really did a good job.
I was a corporate employee of Maaco Auto Painting and Collision Centers. A center opener in fact. Traveled dozens of states and was employed for approximately 10 years with them. I thoroughly enjoyed my time there except for some of the traveling. I’ve met thousands of fine quality people.
Most of the shops I encountered were good quality although there were a couple of ‘bad apples’.
Retired now but still wish I could visit or help in some way possible.
There is nothing better than to see the smile of a happy and satisfied customer no matter what the pricing is. I’ve always tried to give the customer more than what his expectations were!
Under promise and over deliver
When I was growing up, you had to be a big spender to get a car painted at Maaco.
Earl Schieb was the place to go for us common folk.😁
People talk about 50 feet and 100 feet paint jobs...sounds lik maaco has 1 inch paint jobs...which is what I prefer
5y ago I had my 54 Nash Ambassador painted at the Maaco in Palm Springs CA. They did an amazing job for $2k. Even got the factory Parisian blue matched.
I had a camper shell painted to match my truck at Maaco....never had an issue, and the work was pretty good. This was in Littleton Colorado.
I was a painter for 20 years and I still had maaco paint my work truck. I’m no longer in the trade and thought about doing it myself self but it wasn’t worth it. I didn’t want to paint it in my garage and with the price of paint these days I couldn’t even get the paint for what they were charging. So I sanded the and put the truck in primer and took it to them to finish. Other than dirt nibs it turned out really good. I am extremely happy for the price
I'll tell you what..... he's totally correct about body shops not willing to paint entire vehicles. I've been trying to get my truck painted for THREE YEARS. In my smaller town, we still have at least 8 "collision centers" plus several independent painters. None will touch my truck. I gave up and decided to go with Maaco's base/clear. Apprehensive, since the nearest Maaco is four hours away, but make the fatal mistake of using the word "restoring" when discussing my truck with them. They actually declined to take the job, stating that they didn't have a painter good enough and thought my expectations were too high. All I wanted was a factory-quality paint job.
Possibly the reason you couldn’t get anyone to paint your vehicle was the owner of the vehicle.
@@dennisrider3609 What's wrong with the owner of the vehicle?
You don’t go to Maaco for a restoration quality respray. This will be a customer that’ll be very difficult to satisfy so I completely understand them turning down the job.
@@steveguillory7568 - Not at all accurate. "Factory quality" is not show quality, it's not cut-and-buffed, it's not sealed..... just all one color and glossy. I would have been fine with a prime-base-clear. They interpreted "restore" to be something more than it is. The auto body shops here claim they make no money on shooting whole cars..... they only do collision repair.
@@broeheemed32 I’m simply telling you what “restore” means to shops. Worked in the industry for a long time so take it for what it’s worth. You may not have meant a restoration but that’s how a shop will perceive it. And unless you’re paying big bucks to get that done, it’s not profitable for the shop. I’ve seen these vehicles come back to the shop multiple times because the work didn’t meet the owner’s expectations. All that rework doesn’t make the shop money and takes up floor space. That’s why these types of jobs get turned away.
Always a pleasure to hear such great info like this.
Sounds about right. I became the painter after we had to fire ours for drug use. I was the assistant manager (zero painting experience). One of our body guys did paint work on the side and he gave me a crash course. He was an absolute magician with a paint gun, so I had a good teacher. I completely wrecked my first paint job, but got better quickly. 100% accurate about a car per hour and the paint formulas (I also came up with a work-around that let me use the correct amount of paint to do a good job).
If you're seriously considering a Maaco paint job, ask around, talk to the painter and body guys and be extremely specific with your expectations. If you get a painter who cares about doing a good job, and body guys who know what they're doing, you'll be fine. Every single Maaco is different, however, so do your homework.
I got my 1990 celica a maaco paint job went with the single stage inferno red and Toyota black both had a flake in it. It was a two tone paint job, had them spray some primer on as well and did the door jambs . Cost me about 1800$ I think back in 2006 . I did the prep work, sanded off the clear coat and left the paint . I removed the rear Window, removed all the lights and seals. Turned out awesome
I had a 1990 celica painted back when I was starioned at Dover. Terrible experience. When it was done, the guy actually told me he would have to repaint it. I came in and it had more runs in the paint than I could count. They repainted it and it was still bad. Inconsistent texture all over amd he wouldn't fix it. They didn't even paint the bottom of the mirrors, and he still refused to make it right. I went co corporate and fought, and they wouldn't do anything because it was a franchise. I'll never go to a Maaco. They did a terrible job on our military vehicles too.
Brings back memories of the Earl Schieb paint job. In 1971 I owned a 1967 Impala as a second car. I wanted to get a repaint to cover some of the primer spots. After the estimate of hundreds of dollars from the local body shop I drove to the nearest Earl Schieb. The “any car any color” pricing was from a list of about eight colors. I chose yellow for the $49.95 paint job. When I picked up the car the paint job was beautiful and seemingly flawless. The only down side was in a couple of years the yellow had faded to a yellowish cream color.
Schieb was actually probably the better of the 2 'Discount' paint chains.
Knew a dude that had his HS car painted in the late 80's early 90's, an old 70's Olds. It looked damn good for "99.95".
Earl Schieb's location in my town would paint any car for $29.95 in early 70's. My sister had her 67 VW bug painted and counted 367 runs in the paint. She got what she paid for!😊
@@jaya.0069 Must have been common for bugs. My uncle had a bug too and I found a receipt for his paint at Schieb in the early '70's for $29.95.
In 74 I took my 58 delray to an E.S.. I chose "Blue". In less than 3 years, it was almost a perfect factory "Silver Blue," Exactly what I hsd planned haha.
Had a Freightliner m2 dump truck with color change, jammed doors cab and hood plus’s dump box & frame 5k other shops would have been 2X -3X that , did a great job
I worked at Maaco back when I was in highschool back in the early 90's. I was just a prepper, but I remember having to go to my bosses office and justify why I needed another scotchbrite pad, lol. Even sheets of sandpaper I would get like 5 at a time for a complete car.
i started painting in the sign industry mostly big flat surfaces with acrylic enamel with a satin finish 80% of the time and a matt finish 20% of the time without counting reducer i have sprayed at the very least 60 gals of brushed aluminum the hardest paint job i ever did was a 48' long neon sign duranodic bronze both sides front and back. so my first auto paint job was my 93 caprice i went all out epoxy DTM high build primer 5 coats paint 6 coats of clear metallic med garnet with a hint of red pearl and gold flake in the clear i did a cut and buff allot of people swore it was candy after that i didn't want to paint signs anymore. cars are way less effort and way more forgiving for me it's all about the lighting give me good lighting ill give you a great paint job.
I’d hire you to repaint my wife’s camaro
He said some words that most men and women wish they had heard prior to putting their car in a body shop for a full paint job, “body shops don’t want to paint full cars.” Makes alot sense being peoples cars get stuck in so called paint jail. I used Maaco one time before and was impressed for the 1500 I paid. I’d use them again but I’d do about 80% of the body work before I’d take it in. So that Maaco wouldn’t get bogged down and could focus on the paint job itself
Good Job! FYI, I grew up near Chicago (thank you for your condolences in advance), and there were a TON of TV commercials touting “Earl Scheib, in by 9, out by 5, for 19.95” auto painting in the mid 1960’s.
I had a friend get 2 cars painted there and he had their best paint job that they offered and I was blown away from the results. It looked amazing for the price he had paid. Now for my own vehicles I'd have a higher end body shop do the work. Recently on my '99 Ranger I had a very well known paint and body shop in my area repaint the hood and front bumper due to clearcoat failure that had no body damage whatsoever and the total cost was $1700. After they were done you couldn't even tell it had been repainted.
Wow ! Blast from the past , I painted at Maaco back in the mid nineties, we did 14 cars a day . I’d say a majority of the cars were tote the note dealers. The owner would pay me a little extra cash daily if no major mistakes happened . Early 20,s I made a decent living but a stressful job . Good video .
great comment!
14 a day is insane
may 2024 MAACO in Las Vega quoted me $2499 for the cheapest.
I went to Mexico and got the best job done for $800.... 2 coats primer, 4 coats base color, 2 coats clear.
This is a good fair review of them. It actually puts Maaco in a better spot to me.
Had a 92 Lexus LS400 2 tone Pearl white with silver rockers stock paint, very nice. Wife got backed into and bent up the hood, gill and left fender. Insurance took it to Maaco and they told us it would be ready in 4 days and for $100 morre they would even reshoot the gray rockers. Ok I say and when we got the car back in 4 days, the hood looked brand new, fenders were straight and new grill. Even after 15 years of paint color fading, all 3 panels matched the rest of the cars color and the silver rockers looked fantastic. I was blown away at the quality and the finish. They asked me how it looked and I told them I would be happy to recommend them to all my classic car guys. Had my 65 Barracuda shot at One-Day back in 1996 ish and paid the 'stage 2' price where they actually paint the door jambs and trunk and hood (!) and even that job looked pretty darn good for $299 (?) I still have that car in my garage and it still looks pretty good but it does scratch very easily, like they didnt even prime it, they just shot the sunburst silver right over the original 1965 copper color.
I did heavy metal work at a body shop. We used to prep the cars down to final sanding and send them to Macco. They charged $35 more than what the paint hardner and reducer would cost us if we got it from the paint store.
After considering the options I think I will go the DIY route to repaint my old car
My MAACO experience. I had a rat Miata that I had done a TON of good quality body work on. But, as you point out, my shop wasn't interested in a whole car paint job. Took it to MAACO for 660$ for the Urethane paint, since a 93 Mazda was single stage paint anyway. This shop was SCARY! Big tim building, one light bulb way up in the rafters, located in a dirt industrial park. I look down and saw a DIRT FLOOR! Actually, it wasn't- just years of not cleaning. That said, I got a REMARKABLE paint job. In spite of trhe deplorable conditions, clearly the painter had learned to cope with them. You CAN get a great paint job at MAACO; it's just knowing how to do it. Here's how. 1. Take EVERYTHING off that you can. ALL the chrome, ALL the rubber, lights, gaskets. On the Miata, I pulled the top and the entire interior. Inner fender liners, too. 2. Go over the car with a marker as to what they are fixing. Mark EVERYTHING. If there's a door chip MARK IT. If you don't, it will get painted right over. 3. Pay for paint. Agree with what you said; you want paint, but for a second reason You can literally sand and buff a stunning paint job out of a MAACO job- IF there's enough paint to do it. 4. If you can get it color sanded and buffed for a fair price, do it. Right now I've got a mint original Limited Edition Miata, that has a buff through right in the middle of the deck lid. I'm ready to let MAACO take a shot at it, simply because paint and body is crazier than ever, and even getting in a shop- ANY shop- is crazy hard- 2+ month waits. 5 Finally, try not to change colors. I know, you're painting the who car, so why not? Well because you aren't. A lot of money can be saved by not having to jamb a car. But, that means a factory color match. Really, a color change almost always ends up looking cheap. Don't do it. FINALLY....Do as much labor- cleaning, sanding, dissassembly, assembly and such as you can. One big don't- don't use MAACO for rust repair. You'll get filler. Car will look great for 6 months, then the bubbles begin. Do the body work, or get a quality shop to do it the right way. Get it PAINT READY. That, to me means other than a quick wipe down, it's ready to shoot. Follow these rules, and make sure you've got a good painter, and you can have a car that can hold it's own at local shows.
i got crazy bubbles and paint peels from them doing body work before painting. I'm not terribly pleased 5 years later, but i learned my lesson. Get body work done at a proper shop and let maaco paint
Great story! I've been mixing automotive paint for 34 yrs--I've seen it all (and have dealt with some real knuckleheads)! 😆
I now work for my local maaco in Winnipeg and I can say the same thing. you get what you pay for people. Don't expect crazy stuff for no price. You are completely right, you get what you pay for. especially with Maaco. Expectation from customers are pretty crazy. like you said, they expect Chip foose paint jobs for next to no money. Thanks for the video buddy
Thank you Chris 🤜 🤛
@Great Heights I like the middle of the road single stage urethane personally, nothing wrong with premium either 👍
Preferred if you want to change the car color?.
Dude if you get what you pay for then why should i go there? By the time i add up all the costs and upsales i can just go to my local reputable body shop and get my car painted there. The whole concept of going to Maaco is that you can get a quality paint job for a fair price. If the price is the same - why go there?
had a restored 1963.5 ford galaxie painted by MAACO in la habra calif. the paint was their premium $900.00. i was real happy very shinny clear coat intergraded paint. kept the car for 20 years won car shows and sold it for $20,000.
I've gone to Maaco a few times for quotes in the past few years. Maaco isn't so cheap anymore around where I live. (Long Island) Last year the clear coat peeled on my 03 vette, took it to 2 independent body shops and 1 Maaco. They all wanted within 1k of each other to fix it. When Maaco wants as much as a reputable independent body shop I choose the independent.
MAACO doesn't paint Vettes, they can't be baked. They ran you off because of that.
That's right! Why go to Maaco if they are the same cost as an independent. Agreed.
I TOOK YOUR ADVICE AND UPGRADED TO THE BASE COAT /CLEAR COAT. I RECIEVED A FANTASTIC PAINT JOB FROM MAACO -VENTURA CA. SHOW ROOM QUALITY FOR SURE. VERY MINIMAL OVERSPRAY AND NO SPECS OF DUST . TO BE HONOST THE MAACO JOB LOOKS BETTER THAN MY EXPENSIVE PAINT JOB I PUT ON MY CLASSIC BUILD. PROPS TO MAACO -VENTURA FOR A FANTASTIC JOB AND CUSTOMER SERVICE.
How much did you pay for it?
All caps signifies that you are shouting. I thought you were angry until I read it.
@@lazyhfarm No, it just signifies ignorance.
i always like hearing the insider info, its unreal they expect a guy to paint a car an hour. i guess a guy gets used to pounding them out over time. great video as always my man!
i know right. hows that jdm coming along ,looking forward to ep2
@@thisguysgarage just got her running this weekend gotta find some time to edit things out 🍻
@@GeorgeJFW looking forward to it 🤜🤛🍻
8 cars a day lol and they want quality? how does anyone last past 6 months?
Time to paint the donuts.
I remember that. Lol
We also had an Earl Schieb.
They were 2 cars per hour. Lol
-Chuck
dam i wish i thought of that ! i just watched some scheib commercials lol folks were mentioning him lol $20 free metal work lol
I had a 92 Olds Toronado Trofeo painted at Maaco because it had peeling clearcoat all over. It was around $1100 for urethane. It looked good but I could still see some of the old spots where the original clear had peeled under the new paint at certain angles. It was black so i knew it was gonna show every flaw. They did a decent job for a driver quality refresh. They couldve sealed it better before paint. Thye also painted the wheel lip trim which was also expected for a 'cheap" paint job. Ive since painted 2 cars myself in my garage. Its time and money that makes a great paint job.
That's a shame, the Trofeo is a nice car. I had a Buick Riv in that platform. To properly fix that they would have needed to use some primer sealer and sandable primer. That's the thing a lot of people don't know. However smooth the surface is before the paint goes on is what it's going to look like after. Usually a dark color magnifies the imperfections. My bud's car had a few areas like that and the guy at Maaco was freaking out going 'that has to be stripped!' He told me 'You and I would just call it 'sanding' but they're accustomed to almost zero prep work.
To be fair that has happened to me a couple times also, The clear they used in the 90's was just shit, they either put too much thinner or too much hardner or both in it. That's why I won't touch a 87-98 car of any make without the words "sanding it back down to bare metal" is agreed upon, because idk wtf they did but just sanding off the clear off wasn't enough, it has to go all the way down for it to be right.
@@TheREALOC1972 I remember reading an article and the color coat was quite a bit lesser quality and just blown on because they considered the 'clear coat' the actual 'paint'. Like any new to market process or tech, lots of flaws typically surface later. One system I used in the late '80's used regular lacquer base and urethane clear. I didn't like it.
@@TheREALOC1972 I at my home shop painted 350 cars and pickups. Also painted farm equipment at Allis Chalmers, and AMGENERAL mail trucks and Humvees, military and H1 commercial. And I owned 3 of the then famous GM paint delays, or desalination. What happened was to high of heat in the prime bake cycle over hardening the paint so it wasn't porous to help the top coat adhere. They tried then over drying the color before clear and got clear and color to separate from the primer. We had that issue on several weeks of H1 commercial trucks and had them water blasted to save the trucks. You can bet they weren't in quality mode during those unfortunate days.
@@francisjaniewski5990 Yeah i'm been painting for almost 30 years and There could be something to that, whatever the reason it was just a shit job. like I said, on the the late 80's and 90's cars I won't even talk about doing a paint job unless it goes all the way back down to bare metal/plastic because of the shit paint jobs they had from the factory. My daughter in-law just boyght her dream car, a 1990 Beretta GT and she wants me to paint it after she and my daughter redo the rest of it.
Dude. Maaco was the hack back in the day. I’d do all my own masking and disassembly and never had terrible results.
We had to redo so many bad macaco jobs come into the shop I worked at it wasn't even funny.. everything was painted on the vehicle, nothing removed and installed , body filler over 2 inches thick ,there was definitely enough paint but most of it was at the bottom of the vehicle though lmao. Many vehicles where basically totaled from the shit work.
I had a Camaro and back in the late 80's had a big door dent fixed and a refab front bumper supplied and installed and a complete paint job done for $800 it looked great for me.
As a kid in the mid 80s my Dad and i was in the Mall. Macco had a 69 Nova on display. One side of the Car was all beat up and faded paint but the other side was nice shinie red with black vinyl top nice hub caps new white wall tires looked like just came off the showroom floor. Great advertisement will never forget that.
Im not gonna say that every Maaco shop does piss poor work, but I've never seen a true "quality paint job" come out of one of those places. That said, I think you're right, they do offer a valuable service. Now that I hear the time and material constraints the painters have to deal with I'm actually amazed that they look as good as they do. Thanks for this info, I've been curious about how they operated and what materials were used for a long time
I had a classic Volkswagen in the 90's. Maaco did a great job. I had so many compliments for years until I sold it.
I had a 59 VW bug took it to maaco they painted over a dent on the hood I guess I missed that one going over the car with the sales guy. It looked tacky like that I told the sales guy at pick up he was like you didn't say anything ? How much more to fix a small dent you think they could had called me to upsell a 50 dollar dent .
Thank you. This inspired confidence in Macao for my 1969 Firebird.
Take them your car ready to paint and you'll have your best chance. I've been happy with them the couple times I used them for my classic Cadillacs.
Hello great vid . I manage a Maaco in land o lakes Florida 20 mins north of tampa . Very busy shop. My experience with Maaco has been great . They have a great business model locked competition . One thing people have to keep in mind that Maaco is a franchise and every Maaco is run different. Depending on the owners, geographic ect. My shop is in a expensive area majority of our client want the top of the line paint job and money\price is not usually not an issue . Been there going on 4 years and we never have sprayed the basic enamel we do some urethane but mostly base clear . We have built a reputation as the top rated Maaco "google" in the central Florida area . We sell our services as some where between a Typical maaco and a convention body shop and we are crushing the market as there really are only two types the Economical Maaco paint Job or high end there really is not much in between . We do provide higher quality service of course at a cost . Typical paint job is 2500 - 3500 with quick turn around which is important to most customers. We run anywhere from 3-4 weeks out as the shop is always packed . My advise is always check online reviews . Our key to success at Maaco land o lakes is our techs . our painter has been with us for 7 years we do our best to keep him happy and content. Our A- Tech body man has been with us 5 years our top notch detailer has also been with us close to 5 years and myself General manager 4 years . This makes a difference trust me .
Hello. Are you still at maaco? I'm in land o lakes.
I'm also in Pasco and need a paint job on my truck that is extremely sentimental to me. Local shop quoted me 9k. 99 victory red silverado extended cab, no color change, base clear, hood and roof are fried.
I had a Macco paint job done in Fresno, CA. They prepped the car very well & it came out fantastically. No over paint. Check out your shop before committing. 1/23/2023
It was cover the Earth. Not a green moto. I too painted at Maaco. Many moons ago. Microfiche paint formulas. 3Qts mix aways.for overalls. Started with western, n SnW 7000. We went to Nason n had Spies, then Du Pont Chroma Base. Had a crossdraft booth n a bake booth after. Had the time of my life there with family like coworkers. 7 a day all we could get normally. 8 was target. Great 5 years. Learned a lot there.
Me too bill🤜🤛👍
I had my 1971 VW Convertible repainted, from orange to white, by Maaco back in early 1978, cost $140 because it was an extra $10 to change color. It still sports that paint !
Back in the early 90's in Delaware. I saw 3 cars painted by MAACO. They always looked wet. That was the only take-away I got from MAACO.
Had a66 Mustang painted at Maaco in Arlington/Pantego TX. Has all the trim removed. They did a great job. This was around 2005. Sold the car the years ago and the paint was still perfect.
Right on
My first job as a painter was at a Maaco in NY. Sure, I painted tons of cars, but they never limited the amount of paint I could mix. We used Centari, Imron, and PPG.
Can’t get real Centari anymore., 99A was my favorite binge. Block, Super Duty then Liqiud ebony. Now these kids got 3/5/8000 grit paper on a D/A what a bunch of cowards I’d start most enamels with 800 grit.
I don't think Imron is made anymore as well.
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Very informative Thanks. A friend of mine works for a company BYK in Connecticut that makes the body paint used for most vehicles. He said they have company secrets for blending the paint and they are guarded like gold at Fort Knox.
Thank you for all your knowledge and what to do if I do get my car painted there I really appreciate it this video helps❤
I had a van painted at Macco when I was in high school and it was great, better than what it was
Been in the market for a paintjob for my daily/project I bought last year, since last year. Maaco has kind of been the only company within my budget and the first time I went they made me feel dumb for asking some of the questions you answered in this video, so it was assuring to hear what you've got to say about their quality standards etc, feel more assured, thanks for it.
If you cant afford anything but Maacco you need to save up until you can afford a actual paint job.
@@HeyJoe1978 wow this was crazy knowledge, thanks for sharing.
@@HeyJoe1978 not everyone has money like that, nor want to spend $2+k on a paint job on a $3-4k car.
In September 2017, MAACO painted our 1995 GMC 1/2 ton pickup. I paid for the top dollar job and it only cost me $1000. The truck looks new; it's beautiful. Local paint/body shops would not touch the truck unless it was an insurance job.
Wow, it sounds like a mill. Did not know they were so tight on the materials and time. Never used Maaco but did see a video where an 08' Dodge Avenger from Oklahoma was given an "Overall" paint job in April 2021 for $375.00.
Thanks for the upload. Yup, you do get what you pay for.
thats a pretty fair price for 2021 , i worked there 6 months and never met anyone i worked with ,it was a mill ,if i had of worked there another six months i would have left the industry ,and i love painting cars .
@@thisguysgarage Just curious, how long ago did you work there and what kind of equipment did they use?
I had a 78 Thunderbird painted at Maaco in 97 and they did a great job. Very shiny and they even stripped the car again to factory.
Yall painted my damn head lights, yes MAACO yall painted my damn head lights
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Lmao! They painted my tail pipes!
Michael? how much extra do they charge for that service? lol
That’s included in the vip service
Hopefully you didn't drive home from Maaco after dark!
Southern Nj.... Urethane with Intergrated Clear Coat around 1k, Entry Base Coat Clearcoat $ $1,500, Base Coat Performance Clear Coat $2,000. And as you mentioned in your video. Customers can spend more depending on what results they want.
I had 2 cars painted at Maaco. He first was my 1953 Chrysler, they did a beautiful job. The second was my '65 Chevy truck. They painted it 3 times and before it left the shop. The paint was pealing when I went to pick it up. The guy working on it looked like he was homeless. He stole the change out of the ashtray (he left the pennies, that's how I knew), my radio had paint fingerprints (there wasn't an antenna, so it wouldn't work).
Long story,short. It depends on who they hire.
In 1981 I bought a solid but faded red 67 Mustang. My first cool car. Had Maaco paint it red. $99 and it was glossy and I got so many complements on that car it was unreal.
We've had numerous cars painted and different maaco locations, and prep work, plays a part for sure (disassembly of lights/trim/ etc, and even sanding and body working it yourself to an extent.) I'm actually sending a car of mine there this year and planned on doing what you suggested, have them do the mid grade urethane service and requesting extra paint so I can cut and buff it once I get it back!
Then step up to base clear... because cutting and polishing a metallic urethane is risky.
@@Look_What_You_Did I've been detailing/cutting buffing cars in bodyshops and dedicated high end detail shops (*for close to 20yr) and I've definitely had my fair share of single stage paint to buff, and you're not wrong at all! However the car I'm getting painted is an 86 Ss monte Carlo, just basic gm white no metallic so it shouldn't be too difficult.
@@malibubarbiie1111 No worries... I've just seen far to many guys think paint is paint... until they mottle the shit out of a single stage metallic.
Why white anyways? I have a white Ford Taurus I want to be any color but white, hell I'd take orange even lol
20 years ago my buddy's Dad taught us to do bodywork on his old 94 escort. We did all the prep and took it to a Maaco and they did a great job spraying it. Way better then we did on the bodywork.
I've got a great 91 Toyota Corolla dx on my hands. Clean inside, 158k miles, mechanically sound car I plan on keeping! But the hood/ top of car paint is done for! I think it can only go up from here and I'm going to give maaco a shot to make the outside of this car as nice as the inside.
I also have a '91 Corolla with clear coat issues that I'd like to take to Maaco. The motors of these cars can last forever.
This is great advice all maccos are not the same talk to them and put eyes on something that has just rolled out and always bump up one level 😊
I worked at Hamilton Autobody on Queen st. There was a MACCO across the street for a time . We used to laugh and LAUGH ... the Bodymen would lather on the Red putty ( Lacquer ) by the gallons ( over their bodywork/bondo ) ... then park the car in the sun for the day ( or two ) letting it dry and SHRINK ... ya those paint jobs looked shinny , but I’d bet they sunk over time into all that putty !
Great vidio. We are looking to paint one of our older cars. It is currently getting some rust repair it has only one spot of rust near the wheel well. We cannot afford to replace this car right now it has over 325.000 miles on it and still running strong. Their estimate was $5000.00 to repaint a Toyota Camery sedan. We had a Maaco many years ago here in Kalamazoo I used it a couple of times however, you guessed it they closed down. We will be on line to locate a location near to us soon. Thanks again for the information it will come in handy.
Definitely, I mean definitely find a reputable Maaco. They are all independently owned so results vary dramatically! It’s worth a couple hours drive each way. Check out “Glued Bar Stool” here on YT, he had a bad experience at his Maaco because of the owner. The actual paint work was pretty good, only 1 small run.
Had a 1000 buck paint job at maaco for my civic. It was awesome. Looked real good or just as good as the other 3000 to 4000 paint quotes I got in town from different shops.
Awesome 🤜 🤛
was there any overspray on black plastic pieces of the car or on anything that it shouldn't have been on? How about the engine bay, ect?
@@sandmansimms5704 no issues with overspray on my car. Will be taking my 93 del sol captiva blue to maaco soon.
@@tacticalsamurai9851 wow you appear to be one out of the many who all say they had overspray LOL
@@sandmansimms5704 yeah my local maaco does a really great job. I even had a brand new skunk 2 exhaust on my civic and no overspray at all
I bought 7 or 8 auction cars over the years and took them to Maaco. I was always very pleased.
I used Earl Schieb before that and they did a nice job, too. Both are long gone from my area now.
I had a couple of vehicles painted at the local MAACO and was very pleased. One was a touch up paint job and one was a complete paint job on a Dodge 4X4 Sport truck. I was going to take another vehicle to them recently and discovered that they had shut down. I'm very disappointed. This is in Fredericksburg, VA.
How much did you pay to have the Dodge truck painted there, and how long ago? Thanks in advance.
To paint my motorcycle I removed the tank, fenders and side covers, prepped everything, then went around to a few high-end body shops. I asked them what cars they were painting that day and if I liked one of the color choices, I would ask them if they could spray my bike parts while they were at it. At least one of them would say yes. I did this a number of times over the years and paid about two hundred bucks max. Basecoat and clearcoat. Buy the painter lunch or 6-pack of beer never hurts either 😆
Very informative! Thanks!
Very welcome!
I took my honda to Maaco years ago. I was extremely pleased with the $1200 I spent. Car dam near looked new. Years later the car got wrecked. But I recommend Maaco to anybody.
I totally used them throughout the 90s- every tax season they would advertise the 199 special. The trick I learned was to take of all of the trim, lights, handles, ect of yourself, drive it that way during mid day hours with your friend closely tailing you to lesskn your chance of getting pulled over, and form a working relationship with the shop where they allow you to tape your own vehicle. If you didn't tape your own vehicle you were going to have to accept major overspray but lets me fair, you were still getting a decent paint job for 199 and technically speaking why should they have to worry about overspray on an economy paint job?
Got my 1996 Volvo 850R repainted (red) and it looks fantastic. They even swapped out the bumper with another one I provided, which they initially forgot about but corrected the issue. For what I paid, I couldn't be happier.
Just got a quote at Maaco for my ‘08 Honda Fit which had sun-faded roof and hood. Quote was for their urethane (no clear coat), orig. silver color. Total estimate: $1,307. Paint: $699.95; Light chip and scratch repair: $99.95; Strip roof and hood: $330; Body materials: $82.50; Hazardous waste: $15; Sales tax: $80. Well . . . so much for their $699.95 paint job!! Think I’ll just grab a couple spray cans of silver at Lowe’s and DIY!
quote sounds reasonable ,peeling is time consuming repair , but if its out of the budget, its out of the budget . ty parker
Try getting another car for $1307... As long as the results are good. How did car turn out?
If it was just the hood and roof, I would just have the hood and roof painted in base/clear. Prob still around $800-1000 job.
I had an Acura Integra painted at Maaco in Cincinnati back in about 2000. I wet-sanded the car myself (I had worked as a laborer in a body shop a few years prior) and it was getting painted the same color it already was, black. They charged me $399 ($299 plus $100 for plasticizer additive for the bumper covers) and it actually turned out looking really nice. I sold the car about a year later and the paint still looked nice then. Leaving the wet-sanding to them is probably a bad idea and I would never have them do a color change.
I've personally had 4 Maaco paint jobs.. 3 turned out great over the years.. 1 was horrible due to the terrible painter at the maaco location..its also good to FIND THE EXACT guy working on your car And Tip them before the job 😉
Thanks for sharing
curious, how much of a tip?
@@mr_mnky hahhaa.. 100$ should be good.. especially if its your wife's car. 😉
I bought a 1950 Chevy deluxe from a od man who had the car painted at Maaco. 3 yrs later the paint still looks great. You have to get REAL close to see the imperfections near the trim. People can't believe it was printed at Macco.
MAACO = scuff it, wash it and paint it baby!
About 1995, I had a Mercedes. My friend, a long time pro body man prepped the car for painting including everything possible removed from the body. I had Maaco paint it. Turned out superb. I always figured the painter took one look at the prep work and decided to slam it out of the park. I offered it as a trade in to a large toyota dealer a few years later. They said the paint had a little issue; there was a little overspray in the sunroof tracks! The job was $500, and Maaco matched the factory tan color. I will no doubt have another one or two done by Maaco.
Just dropped a car off at Maaco this am. We shall see! I took it to the one area Maaco location that had someone answer the phone. Your video helped me go in knowing what to look and ask for. (Note: Impossible to get a quote or color options on-line.) Thank you!
awesome could you please let me know how you make out ,would love to see some pictures if you can.
@@thisguysgarage same here let me know
So how’d it go?
@@_SirCharge with me or the original poster? I've decided to go to another shop about fifteen hundred more dollars but that's with wet sanding and buffing
@@sandmansimms5704 I ment with homey the other poster but thanks for your input too
I've only taken vehicles to Maaco for minor work (small amounts of rust work that required painting) and always had a positive experience - they always seemed honest and did good work for the price I had paid. I knew I wasn't getting a $12000 paint job for $399 and did as much work ahead of time that I could. Great advice about setting expectations and asking to see actual work that has been done.
Great video and informative info about Maaco which exactly ain't bad depending on the level of service. Also breaking down the trim, lights, bumpers would help out drastically as well.
I had a beautiful Lincoln mark 8 with rear quarter panel damage and a faded hood. I was quoted $1200 for the work and I thought that was a lot. They told me I could sand and prep the car myself and save some money. I took my time and repaired the easy stuff. I took it back to them and the finish was amazing right out of the booth! I had a friend buff and cut it and it was show quality for the rest of the time I owned it.
When I was a young driver all the commercials down here were from a place called "Earl Scheib". The slogan was "I'll paint any car, for 99.95". I had a friend who had his car painted at one, and to be honest, it was ok. For the $99.95 deal, you had to prep and tape off the car yourself, and if you missed something, it was going to get painted anyhow. I feel pretty cheap now, as I only have 50 dollars in my beater trucks paint job. It was $34.99 for a gallon of paint, and $13.99 for the reducer. :D
i think the beater truck looks awesome , never underestimate our cheaspiness lol , i have to go find an old scheib commercial you are the second to mention it . thanks tim!
A guy I work with and I were just talking about earl scheib the other day!
It took us forever to remember the name, drove us crazy! Lol
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@@dm7097 you obviously don't work for maco if you were talking to a co worker.
@@dutch6753 😂
I was quoted over $3000 for my Crown Vic... Ima do it myself. Sanding, leveling, seal / prime, paint, clear. Gonna be fun.
Did you paint it? How much did the materials cost you?