I watched Sumail's Gamerzclass and it blew my mind...
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2022
- Dota prodigy Sumail reveals his MMR-boosting strategies in his first-ever class with Gamerzclass. Click here to get access to it for just 99 cents in the first month: c.gamerzclass.com/sumail-offe...
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He is sumali and you are just a wash up former pro player no one will believed in you... U r a ti wiener and sumali was a ti winner
Is this hosted anywhere else now? The original link is dead. :-/
now we need someone to do a "I watched BSJ watching Sumail's gamerzclass and it blew my mind" explaining the vid good or bad and what he learned from the video
And another one with watching Jenkins telling at the beginning "the biggest mistake was not pick Pudge"
So basically we will watch Jenkins watching BSJ watching Sumail
@@RiteshBansode This is the dream
on it
Preferably by Jenkins
Always a pleasure to hear you talking about the game. ❤
Man your guys class is rly good! you might be getting ahead of GameLeap in terms of knowledge for value ratio.
I'm glad this kind of content is possible, thank you
Watching this, I feel like Sumail is a professor in Dota 2, the researcher kind of professor, the ones that do not have the best way to explain something, but he is really good at it. It feels like he’s on a completely different level.
The thing that I'm impressed about Sumail's explanation is that he doesn't focus on his own playstyle or just that particular game, he just boils it down the very detail of DOTA itself. Such insane understanding of the game, no wonder he's a genius of his own art.
BSJ's commentary is actually helpful, without that I feel like I wouldn't know what Sumail is on about.
Bsj is a great teacher, definitely not a skill everyone has
It really did help having BSJ walk and talk through it.
"those who cant _do,_ teach." and conversely usually those who can "do" at a very high level, arent great teachers. this is a pretty good example of that.
This is it. I have gamerclass yearly subscription and like the content, but frankly im too low level to understand what these pro guys are trying to teach. The vast majority of videos feel like pros showing clips from their games. I NEED BSJ narrating them.
I believe that there are different types of learners, some dissect the problems and find out how it works and others are learning by doing. Pro players are often the learning by doing type, while the analyzing type often tends to become coaches and analysts.
Its really fascinating how sumail doesn't really think about "mid". He constantly thinks about the game as a whole from minute 1 and everything just comes together nicely, its really beautiful. I don't even care about mid that much, but watching this I feel like i gained better understanding about dota and got some new ideas to try out.
SumaiL isnt explaining mid, he is explaining Dota.
That what makes one a pro, being able to process all these aspects of the game at each stage.
Was a really great watch your commentary is valuable too BSJ.
Mid has the biggest impact on the game. The mid should understand Dota more than pos 1 to be real.
We have heard this all before. It means more coming from one of the best players of all time.
@@thejayrodinit i understand what you mean and I would agree to a certain extent, but it isnt a matter of what he is saying literally but rather his spontanious lecture of the ongoing game, that isn’t something we see often. I hope i phrased it properly and you see what i mean
Sumail, a ti winner and one of the best mid laner in DotA 2: I asked my lich to refill my bottle.
My midlaner: Refill me or me feed.
Hahah yeah.
Expected to get midlane guide, Sumail gave me a decision-making guide for most roles. King 👑
I don't know If you are allowed to do more gamerzclass but I would love to see more, I did understand sumails video better with your analysis
Super helpful! please do more of this BSJ!
BSJ's commentary is actually helpful, i learned so much with this two kinds of explanations
I have a friend who wants to play support because he thinks it’s less stress full and doesn’t have as much of an impact of a carry role. I think he needs to see this so he understands how important his role is
I switched to support because I got bored of farming half the time so now I just fight fight fight with a side hustle of fun triple stacking every now and then
please do more of these. this was amazing man
Very great content, i actually really like your commentary on his comments, cause it makes the informations and thoughts process to get more stable in my mind.
I like the synergy between Sumail teaching and you translating to the plebs, eventho you are kinda saying the same as he is, it just makes it more clear and to hear what you highlight makes me realise what the most important things he says is. Thanks BSJ!
GH came into my mind when Sumail mentioned trusting your supports to know what they're doing.
With or without communication, GH is certainly one of the most reliable supports in the scene right now.
Kuro may have other things going on with him right now but he's still considered to be one of the greatest supports of all time.
With that being said, I think Sumail is at the very least in a decent spot right now.
Who knows, they might win the next Major or TI.
nigma fanboy spotted
Appreciate your explanations of what he is saying immensely. You speak and explain it a lot more logically and easily for us noobs to understand.
Good job mate. U r actually simplifying all the things for players. 🙏💯
We need more of this from all the pros. Would elevate the game.
Damm actually one of the better videos i've seen from you thanks a lot. This feels like old bsj to me
The thought process and knowledge these top players have is incredible. While I'm fiddling with my quick buy items, they've planned the first 20 minutes of their game.
i've been learning how to play mid recently and this video was very helpful. Cannot believe this video was 40 mins, felt like 10. MORE TIPS PLEASE
Loving the content! Keep it coming!
Grop should be in Gamerzclass to teach us how to mald properly in different situations :)
what a great vid BSJ, keep it up!
Thanks a lot BSJ
Hey BSJ! Your explanation is perfect. I feel like Sumail and other Pro Players' explanation mainly works if you already know a lot from DotA but yours actually is perfect for people who have decent knowledge as well as newbies who need it the most so I appreciate that you explain what he means at times and I appreciate how you explain things in DotA so keep it up. Great breakdown of Sumail's video as well btw.
Loved it BSJ! Loved it!
Honestly the biggest lesson anyone can take from this is that Sumail has the skill of critical thinking which allows him to adjust his choices based on what the enemy is doing and what his teammates are doing. Most people total cannot think critically
Great stuff Brian
i like you interpretations make things more solid and clear
Great stuff. Learned a lot.
more of these please!
When your teacher takes a class and you realise that he is actually better learner than you
While I’m a 10 year veteran, mid main, I still learned some stuff, or at least was reminded to play attention to some things more than I normally do. For instance, thinking about the side lanes and being able to anticipate enemy rotations based on how they’re doing, as well, as asking for rotations if the lane can afford to have a support leave. It also effects how I ward for myself mid, which is crucial.
what rank are you? i'm just curious
@@juliusrendon5936 actually low rank, currently unranked. I've rarely grinded rank. Just been playing the game and following the pro scene for a decade.
Thanks for the video! Was a good one
Great Video .. add more videos on these courses of pro players please
He could potentially contest the small camp as Lina. It’s a very common move, if you’re winning lane, you contest the small camp, which forces the enemy to go deeper into the jungle, and then missing out on any lane creep CS and exp whatsoever. It’s a bit riskier because because the enemy supports can try to punish this move with a rotation, but you can just check the miniMap to see if they’re in lane, and it’s not like you’re diving under tower, so it’s not super risky.
There's a ward there. The moment he moves up to contest next time around I guarantee a smoke gank. Enemy bot killed doom too. Jakiro and wd can fuck up Lina.
This actually helps understanding more of what Sumail is doing.
Regarding it being inaccessible, I think that if we view what Sumail is saying as similar to studying literature in your university class, we know it takes reflection and interpretation to understand. It's this assumption that everything should be immediately accessible without thinking and without knowledge, but this just isn't going to be the case when you're trying to get into the head of how a master understands something.
Beginners should be happy if they are able to implement just 1 thing he suggests and the rest is about coming back to the video and thinking about it over and over.
More of this!
35:10 "I don't know why my Witch Doctor is bottom." He just got dove between RB3 and RB2 by SS and died. After respawning, visible heroes were 3R@DT1, 2D@DM1, 2D@RB1. His choice to TP bot was justified, being unable to defend against SS+Bane in mid, and probably hoping to cancel TP's on the 2 dire pushing RB1. The only other option would be TP to RT1 to create a 1v4 at DT1. WD went bot because he was confident DT1 would fall if he could stall in bot. WD's mistake was losing vision on Nyx and allowing his teleport to DO.
U r wrong
@@h.a.z6604 usually i am. you think WD should have risked TP to mid and connected to team? at least he could have absorbed the Bane ult.
SILENCE FOOL
I have a very similar *team based mindset like sumail, and i feel alot of his pains in this video lmao. Only thing is that i struggle to like adapt to the gane always. I guess i have adhd so it potebtislly makes it harder for me, but the way sumail casually makes plays based on the last few minutes in mindblowing. Cricital thinking and mebtal fortitude... what better to ask for...
do more of this please brian
When SumailL says something in the game, most of players in most situations listen to him. And yet, not all the times (Kotl example). He speaks from his position and it seems he has not put himself on the shoes of those paying for his masterclass. If you are a random 6k dude, your team will shit in your mouth 90% of the times you say something, no matter how polite or correct you are.
Heck, you can literally quote what Sumail says in this masterclass, word for word, and your team will still have a stroke about everything you say
People must be much more willing to communicate in the low herald, because most of the time people do listen.
It does help to know Russian :D
you spat some truth right there
He's teaching you how to play the game at it's best. You are better off learning to play the game the right way and gain MMR over time than showing you how to spam a hero so you can be boosted to high MMR. You're paying to learn how to play the game.
Great support tutorial by Sumail
I'd like to see some fear analysis breakdown, his new channel is really good!!
Thanks for the informative video! One remark though: it's hard to listen for two people talking at the same time :)
thats a great one
This is Diamond bsj thanks for doing this 🙌
in herald if a support tps mid from fountain and you give him your bottle, you're never getting it back
Holy shit BSJ is the translator of the the God!
"When you run out of content, so you become a mainstream streamer that just watches youtube" BSJ moving up in the world.
great watch
His respect and admiration for Sumail is adorable
i like how BSJ acknowledged production....DAAAYUM EDITING PRODUCTION VALUE
give that production guy a raise
Hot take: Mids, depending on hero type played in given game, should change "Pos".
Ex. QoP mid? YOU choose to be 3rd in farm prio (pos3). You're offlane is now pos 2. Enable him and his game.
Mid Examples: You're tinker? Okay stay pos 2 and so your thing.
Sf? Pos 2, get that farm
Dk? Yeah 2
MidCM? Vspirit? SB? LET'S GO! YOU'RE NOW Pos 3 (even 4? Enable your ganking 4's ((soft support)) game? Give him mid a bit maybe?)
What do ya'll think?
This is super interesting as a morphling player for me. Morphling is kinda even worse off against sf than void spírit, because morph has less rightclick damage, less nukes, less movementspeed than sf in lane. So basically the only way you can really win against a mid SF is when he does mistakes or really just plays bad. Other than that mid SF is pretty much stronger in every aspect than morph in the first few levels. So this might apply also for my morphling plays in the future, I'd just rather focus on regen items(maybe even mobility, like a windlace) and generally "damage control" by not feeding and still getting as much farm out of it as possible.
No one asked
@@h.a.z6604 you are pretty observant. Thank you for sharing your observation.
Be gone pesant
Sumail's thinking is like a flow chart of dota
deserves more likes
imagine being these sups flammed by sumail on gamerzclass, and now on bsj chanel
So many times in pubs do I get into a position where I'm in a slightly unfavorable lane, it's almost even and I can actually have a game if I only get a bottle refill, and it never comes.
Good video 👍🏻
this video is unbelivebly good, and I don't even know hot to spell that word
Imagine you were the KOTL in his Pangolier game and you were watching this video getting flamed back.
Nice translation
Sumail is genuinely gifted holy crap
Now we need Miracle’s Gamerzclass
kinda funny that the lichs name was butterfly effect too :)
BLEW MY MIND AND MY LOAD
The funny thing is, u can learn all of this but it’ll always be a million times more impactful if ur team also knows what to do.
You missed the entire point.
I don’t even really play dota anymore but will watch Bsj comment on Sumails gameplay any day
What is ur opinion on placing mid ward after time 00:00, so u have controll on 6 min power rune which is very important, (also sf died coz he didnt have vision before 6 min timing), So i always place ward after that time + sentry, but i noticed high mmr players put the ward on the begining and then it expire before 6min. Which option is better ?
You bring up a good point. Topson often places the ward after 0:00
How did the support replace his bottle at 6:10?
without your translation i would've never understood this video so well
holy sht sumail looks like a captain with the space he makes as a midlaner
here is what i learned :
-pick kotol
-grief
-live in ti winners head rent free
-make it to gamerzclass coaching video
-make it to bsj video that he names "...blew my mind"
@18:30 lols haha you are important here.. some of us did not notice that some point of sumail is very important until you highlight it haha
The gamers class from Sumail is great for divine and legend players or even immortals.
For low mmr player like me it is nothing because the things I am weak at are mechanical stuff
It may seem like that, but if your sense of the game and your movements and decisions are correct, your mechanical shortcomings will matter less and less. Obviously mechanics are needed to improve but if you are making correct map moves and decisions you will find you are put in less mechanically demanding situations far more often than having to miracle yourself out of a jam. Just my thoughts as a player in low divine who started down in the trench back in 2013. I gained a decent amount of MMR from improving my mechanics, organizing all hotkeys properly, learning control groups, quickcast, Adv. options needed to be more efficient, farm practice etc. but I started seeing regular rise and consistent >50% WR when I started focusing on the whole game and what i was doing with my time. BSJ talks about it a lot in his videos but i think breaking the game down to 1 minute segments and understanding it in 1 minute batches is the easiest way to gain MMR at low levels. Youll find yourself being in the right spot with the right tools to help more and more often.
I forget who said it…most likely BSJ or Jenkins… but you can go as far as 4-5k MMR with shit mechanics but have a complete understanding of the game
I have bad mechanical skills.
My hands are just slow.
I admit it, so I improved other area like decision making.
I reached immortal by playing easy heroes like bloodseeker and Luna. I can only play those 2 heroes.
If I play other heroes, it looks like I'm herald
Dude, the lich's tag is butterfly effect!
"yes yes 53, 47.." LMAO
I love how subtly mad he was with the kotl lmfao
Sumails gamerzclass isnt for just ez win mmr but a lesson to be good at official games and pub games
the editing and graphics are spectacular
What can i say sumail did good regardless of the lack of details i mean his new to that thing
I was able to talk to KOTL last night. he already purchased all of Sumail's Gamerzclass.
your cam was blocking some text:(
funny how I always viewed sumail as a lone predator mid as he usually bullies mid very well, but now that I hear his thoughts I know he's actually a perfect team player xD holy shit! :P 🤩
does anyone know the link to the outro music?
mid is like a pos 4. you need to have the same mindset and that is to look for the best opportunity. im main pos 4 and i play mid when with my friends. the only difference is that their timing since mid farms and pos 4 dont.
this is a replay analysis of a replay analysis
Guys I need some help. When should I buy stats as carry or support ? I am so confiused
dude its true, i think most crucial role in dota is mid, u remember the saying "ez mid ez game". mid role is the first to hit level 6 timing etc. mid wants to rotate also need to farm so this role is kinda nutz.
Lich's name is butterfly effect, pog
Be Positive while playing, it only increases your chances to win
So he react based on support action and try playing on team tempo which is great.
I wonder what happen when the supps also have this kind of mindset, waiting and acting based on their core. And when you have both core and supp with similar mind i just imagine they are having mexican standoff inside their imagination, waiting each other to take action lol
@6:34 if The King ask u to tp mid to refill bottle, you tp mid and refill his damn bottle