Is Alma Horlick a Ghost? (Let No Man Put Asunder) - Red Dead Redemption
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I find so many stranger missions in RD1 to be so creepy and unsettling, this probably takes the cake.
It's been years since I've played it, but are your 2nd and 3rd most creepiest quests the cannibal one, and the one where you discover the man you deliver flowers to has a dead wife who's rotting in 'their' cabin?
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@@RustCohle072 Yep rdr1 was creepy asf and the music as well
RDR1 had a very surreal unsettling feeling, the same thing from empty gmod maps and stuff. Tall Trees always fascinated me as a kid, as if there was something there, hiding behind every tree and vanishing when I look. Amazing feeling from that game, the bayou in 2 is similar for me.
The Strange Man is up there as well. There's alot more creepy side missions in RDR1 then RDR2
They always have something to do with the dead or similar things. Very interesting.
I always assumed that Alma was just an old lady with dementia but this video has got me rethinking that side mission
You never played Undead Nightmare?
Huh, I always figured she was a ghost
I always assumed she was a bit of a cougar
@@edgarbanuelos6472 undead nightmare is a separate Canon
Just a crazy old lady i thought
The thing that confuses me the most is the Musician. Why would he automatically know John is referring to a man who died nearly 20 years ago as soon as John mentions "she." It gives me the strong impression that John is not the first person to look for Pete on Alma's behalf. Maybe she even went herself to search at some point.
Damn that’s a very good comment bro
@@beetlepimp8548 thanks I made it myself
Yeah I assumed that my first time playing it. Brilliant writing tbh
Armadillo isn’t that huge of a settlement/town
and Pete seems to have left an impression on the people so it’s not too unusual that someone remembers him.
@@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer even if that's the only Peter he's met in his life, most people would say "no, I don't know any Peters" if he's been dead for 20 years
I love how when she reaches towards John, he leans back and away from her.
Smart
Me when my great aunt tries to hug me
@@SCVMCVNT She not even here to defend herself.
Its almost like he knows she's not really alive...
I've had old ladies claw at me like that. I reacted pretty much the same way.
This is my favorite stranger mission in the whole game. I remember riding back to see if I could talk to her after finding her fiance's grave and just... nothing. Nobody there. Unsettling as fuck.
My ranking of every Stranger mission in RDR1 from worst to best.
19: Deadalus and Son (Fuck this one)
18: Jenny's Faith
17: American Lobbyst
16: Funny Man
15: Lights, Camera, Action
14: Who Are You To Judge?
13: Flowers For a Lady
12: Aztec Gold
11: Love Is The Opiate
10: Poppycock
9: California
8: Eva in Perail
7: Water and Honesty
6: American Appetites
5: The Prohibitionist
4: The Wronged Woman
3: Let No Man Put Asunder
2: Remember My Family
1. I Know You
Don't even fucking try to make me rank all RDR2 Stranger missions.
In undead nightmare she comes back as a zombie and her tombstone can be found which shows her date of death before this game took place
@@fredster594 I Know You is such a legendary side mission.
@@fredster594 Yeah, there's 32 of them in RDR2 and almost each one of them are great stories in their own right. Like well told short films set in the Red Dead Universe.
@@themadtitan7603 There is one RDR2 side mission that is straight up cancer though. The Stranger mission located in Saint Denis where you have to collect thousands of stupid exotics.
Most of the random encounters and side missions are either cursed or depressing.
They used to scare me ngl
Horse one
RDR1 always scared the fuck out of me as a kid. The dull colors, the manimal glitch, the music in West Elizabeth, the fact that you can literally kill an entire town and it will become a ghost town, the fast crawling zombies in Undead Nightmare, and of course the creepy and mysterious Stranger missions.
@@fredster594 wait wait wait. You can actually wipe out an entire town forever?
@@Linnnaeus Not forever but if you kill all civilians it will turn into a ghost town until a few ingame days til it repopulates.
You can find Peter Turners grave in rdr2 but it's less detailed
Yeah at Old Fellows rest.
Glad to see they kept that little detail in the sequel/prequel
The grave can also be seen in GTA5..... Nah I'm just kiddin' wit ya.
@@EdgyNumber1 hah that's actually johns grave
@@theuncommonn00b12 wait your joking right
Peter & Alma lived in Tumbleweed, when the Del Lobo's attacked the day before their wedding. They were separated in the massacre, leaving their spirits to wander astray.
She reminds me so much of a dementia patient.
I feel that is honestly more tragic than a ghost as she physically must undergo this grief frequently.
dementia is a bitch. People get cancer and shit all the time and that's a fact I just accept as another cause of death but I feel soooo bad for ppl with dementia. like don't take me for someone heartless, i don't mean I don't care about cancer patients I just see it as another way to die like old age, murder, accidents etc. while dementia is a whole nother category
@@salmonellq2981 In cancer , you atleast get to die with all your memories and are able to spend time and say goodbye to your loved ones. Dementia causes you to rot away for years , your family become strangers , your house in a unknown place , any significant event in your life before never happen. Your mind becomes a whirlwind of confusion and horror until you die of agony.
@@jamesmikhail017uy2 aka preordering hell
Yeah, that's true
I feel she's a ghost kinda like Agnes Dowd a wandering spirit wanting her loved one to come back to her
Agnes was a cursed ghost, who died by hanging. Alma went restlessly in her sleep, thinking about how she never got to marry her loved one.
@@renaigh but both of their stories involve them never being with their true loves if you listen to the conversation Agnes Dowd has you can hear how she was suppose to be with someone but her family pulls her away from him and eventually killed him and Agnes so stricken with grief kills herself in the swamp which is why she is haunting that particular area Fizhy did a video on her not saying that Alma killed herself but you can see how they are sort of similar
@@burnthetrolls5971 they have nothing to do with each other.
Agnes Downes is the wife of Thomas Downes. The one you people are talking about is Agnes Dowd.
@@ajsonshehaj8823 right my bad
This mission always fascinated me mainly because the look of horror my father faced in undead nightmare. "This was meant to be my perfect day!"
His grave says, “He’ll never dance with another.” I’m thinking he was cheating on Alma, she found out, beat him over the head with something and now she’s cursed to haunt for her betrothed.
Now that would have made this a good side quest.
'Poor John, got to meet her twice'
I always thought she was a ghost
If she wasn’t I’d imagine we would have gotten at least a cutscene at the end where we realise she is just a deluded old woman
Instead she completely disappears
I mean depending on whether she has Alzheimers/dementia or some other condition that keeps her from accurately remembering or perceiving her situation, she’s not just gonna “snap out of it”.
She’s an old lady, probably with the aforementioned ailments during a time where proper care-facilities weren’t really a thing, at least not in such reclusive areas. She probably had no family so no one would take care of her and she sadly died alone, just as her gravestone says.
@@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer
If she had dementia, you would think Rockstar would have designed the mission with the last objective to go inform the woman. Even if she was no longer present at the former location, it'd have John muttering something about the poor woman, insinuating that she wasn't altogether there.
However, since the mission ends abruptly upon finding the man's grave, that to me seems to heavily suggest that she was indeed a ghost. Even nearly 10 years ago when the game came out, that was my initial impression. Also, if she wasn't a ghost and simply had dementia, it wouldn't make much sense for her to out in the middle of nowhere. There's noone present with her. And her transportation (be it a horse or a carriage or whatnot) doesn't seem to be present either.
Normally I don't look too deep into these sidequests. But this is one that, at least to me, definitely suggests something ghostly. The man being dead for 20 years also gives it that unsettling realization.
@@12227UserName
Honestly I think people just overthink certain things; which isn’t necessarily bad since these theories are pretty cool, but I really don’t think this mission is supposed to have a supernatural element to it. Other missions definitely do, but this one, at least in my opinion, doesn’t.
It’s also not the only mission which ends rather abruptly. American appetites comes to mind, where John also never informs any of the worried townsfolk who asked him to go look for someone, about what he actually found there. A lot of side missions end on a very sad, cynical note without further closure. So I’m gonna stay with her being demented and alone.
@@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer
I agree people tend to overthink when it comes to certain side missions in the Redemption series. In fact, I think there's quite a few missions that were intentionally written to be ambiguous and open ended, with no real definitive conclusion in mind by Rockstar.
That said, to me it does seem to imply that the old lady is a ghost. And if not, as said earlier, left to be ambiguous.
American Appetites ending abruptly after encountering the cannibal makes sense. It's a relatively short mission that really is only there to pay tribute to the Hills Have Eyes sort of scenerio in works of both fiction and non fiction. It doesn't really serve any other purpose from a narrative point of view nor does it need to. John Marston heading back to tell the towns folk is a bit redundant.
But for the old woman, it'd make sense to inform her of your findings instead of ending it as soon as you find the gravestone. At least with the religous girl, I believe her corpse is later found in the desert, showing us her outcome. The old woman is simply never heard of again. Not to mention, the man died from a head injury 20 years prior to the events of the game. Dementia or not, that's a hell of a long time later to go waiting for your lover in the desert.
@@12227UserName
When I found his gravestone my conclusion was that the woman clearly had some form of mental issue. It’s not like I don’t see where you’re coming from, her being a restless ghost because of her lovers death before their wedding day would be a pretty creepy and sad story. It’s just that I don’t see why the anomalies during that quest are more suspicious than the ones in any other. I don’t think that John not going back to the people in the sheriffs office to inform them of their loved ones’ suspected demise is that redundant at all. The clues he finds all pretty much lead to the conclusion that the person he was looking for is dead, and seeing how one of the quest givers is a mother looking for her son (something John should be able to greatly relate to) it’s quite anticlimactic to me that he never bothered to tell them, let alone give the last guy a ride back into town to his wife.
Personally I really only ever saw the woman as an abandoned, neglected senior who clearly had some form of Alzheimers, making her think it was her wedding day and her groom (who has been dead for 20 years) was late for the ceremony. The reason we don’t go back to her (the one that makes most sense to me) is that John probably realized at the end that the woman was senile. The fact that her gravestone in Undead Nightmare dates to the years where John is active in New Austin gives a good hint that she presumably died not long after John encountered her.
My grandma had Alzheimers/dementia too and when my dad died she didn’t really understand as far as I can tell. She thought her husband had died (who had already been dead for decades.)
if she died in 1911 and you can see her in 1914, I guess I am confused at how anyone doesn't think shes a ghost.
because undead nightmare isn’t canon lmao
she didn’t die in 1911. undead nightmare is not canon
did@@ninjafrog6966
1:38 RDR1's New Austin chapter missions in a nutshell.
And all of Undead Nightmare
And rdr2
@@gamingandrewbro8815At least in Chapter 6.
This made me think of the unmistakable sound effect which plays whenever you finish a section of a stranger mission, or complete one entirely.
It's a cool effect, and kinda nostalgic to me.
it sometimes plays when u enter the menu
You should absolutely do a video on the wreck of the serendipity, the shipwreck in thieves landing
I second this
@@grapefruitjuice9473 I third this
I fourth this
I think that’s the only mystery in Red Dead they never explained
I sixth this.
Peter turner is the boss in rdr undead nightmare at odd fellows rest aswell
All i could think of when i hear name was a dude saying
"Im not an almacaholic"
While stumbling around. Especially with her man dying in a tavern brawl
Peter Turner has one of the best lines in gaming in my opinion when he comes up as a zombie in Undead Nightmare
"You wanna dance with the devil. WELL HERE I AM."
I'm so glad you're doing videos about this game. I adore this game as it was the first game I ever played probably shouldn't have been doing it at age 4 though.
@@PhantomOutlaw I'm glad I did or the first game I ever played would have been Hanah Montanna for the WII.
@@PhantomOutlaw in my opinion I think its timeless and can be enjoyed years from now even with RDR2. Kinda like the original DOOM
Wait, how ols are you?
@@yaro42 14
What are you like 15? You were pretty young to be playing this game 😂
Just listen to how she was talking verying interesting
They need to remake RDR with rdr2 mechanics. They’re missing a big trick if they don’t. 50% of rdr2 gamers haven’t played RDR. Rockstar like making shit tonnes of money so remake RDR & they’ll sell bucket loads of them.
I agree. I think a remake could easily be done. I also think a switch port of RD1 would be awesome. Especially since l.a noir is on the switch.
Look RDR1 is a flawed game yes and it deserves to be on newer gen consoles. But does it need a remake? Fuck no, if they remake this game with RDR2's realistic mechanics it would only ruin RDR1's atmosphere and style and it would piss on every developer at Rockstar San Diego that worked on this game back in 2010. Unlike RDR2, RDR1 is NOT a 19th century historical accurate cowboy simulator game, it's a love letter and parody of Spaghetti Western movie cliches from the 60s and 70s. So RDR2's mechanic's wouldn't work for this type of game.
@@fredster594 true they have completely different vibes. Rdr 1 is a lot more Arcady than 2
@@fredster594 exactly! A simple remaster or port to current consoles would be enough.
@@fredster594 I dunno I'd like to have the gun customization and dual weilding in rdr. That's just me though. I loved the game when I played it back in the day but it would certainly feel very dated even with a remaster. I don't know if it would do well now. It's got that early 2000's Rockstar feel to it.
I love that you’re covering the first game
She's definitely a ghost and probably killed Peter Turner
nah, Peter was probably murdered by a Del Lobo.
@@renaigh maybe he was killed by a cougar.
@@RolandBon that's a very boring conclusion.
@@renaigh the grave did say he got shot.
@@RolandBon the Del Lobos have guns, cougars do not.
I never even considered you doing rdr.
I missed this content since rdr 2 because the videos always felt like a somewhat documentary on these stories which because of rockstar felt quite real and I’m in love with the Wild West, hence why these are my favourite games.
But now with rdr, it feels even more real cause it’s of the old west with that realism but because of the age of the game, feels even more real cause it feels a genuinely long time ago in addition just when the games set, unlike rdr 2, making it feel even more real and as a result really cool
It would’ve been scary if when you go to the graveyard you see the Peter Turner mourning a grave for the old ladies grave. AHHHH
I still play RDR1, and this mission always... Confused me, to say the least...
As always, I appreciate these videos, Fizhy!
:D
I started playing rdr1 recently after completing rdr2 this is my 2nd back to back run through. Glad you’re making these videos
Welp...SHE DEAD
(yes that is a grammar error that I felt like putting there
I like when Fizhy makes videos like this.
Miss playing this game
@@PhantomOutlaw exactly haha thank you, although I could whip out the old console I’m just not bothered to go rooting for it. Rockstar is in love with GTA and it’s community too, I agree.
@Zander Milligan easier said than done, especially just to play one old game
Everyone else in the world when they first encountered this was probably creeped out but I was just cracking up about how she says "my peter" and then John saying "I'm sure your Peter will be just fine."
I love that you're doing rdr 1 videos man, please don't stop loved your rdr 2 videos re watched a few times actually and definitely will with these im sure!
I definitely think it could go either way. I see both sides of the argument and this video definitely was a very very good alternate take on this mission. I first played this game when I was 12-13 and replayed it multiple times. When I was younger, I simply thought this was just an old lady suffering of dementia and was waiting at the chapel (which in her mind wasn’t abandoned) and simply thought she was younger than she was, and it was still the year in which she was to be married.
I never knew the gravestone said her death was 1911, so that does change things. Rockstar has bugs and mistakes, but they have such an amazing attention to detail that it seems weird to have this mission available during 1914 when you play as Jack.
Love the videos! You do such a great job explaining.
She scared the crap out of me when she comes back from the dead in undead nightmare
I’m happy to see there’s still videos being made of rdr saga
im pretty sure she is a ghost, would make sense after all
no it wouldn’t
Definitely my most favorite and creepy stranger quest in rdr. It was my first stranger mission and it showed me how messed up and creepy they will be
Playing RDR1 again atm and just did this side mission yesterday, very awesome video this. Love this channel!!
RDR 1 had a more creepy vibe with the side missions if you ask me.
In undead nightmare, odd fellows rest’s boss is also Peter turner, he looks younger than her (which makes sense because his body stopped aging 20 years before seeing her) and the line he says when he is getting out of the grave is “you wanna dance with the devil? Because here I am!” Which I presume were his last words before getting the blow to the head
It warms my heart to see that people still plays this game, absolutely art
1:38 bruh John never really wants to get touched. Even by an old lady.
Ive only seen your old video's so good to know you still upload the same content
Great video thanks! Will be on the lookout for more :3
Odd Fellows Rest is an album from Crowbar ..
I love that John (and maybe Arthur, haven’t played in a while) always says “I’ll see what I can do” instead of promising to complete it.
these rdr 1 videos are great
Poor old lady... she never managed to marry her fiance...
Great as always.
I can't remember the name of the mission but I would like to see you cover the mission where you collect the flowers for the old man
Yes shes a ghost cuz how the hell would an old lady be stranded in the blazing desert n not have a heat stroke from her age
Makes sense and why’s oils she be in an abandoned building and a chapel and why wouldn’t we be finding her body after we come back after the mission
Loving this series brother!👍🤙
I think the ghost theory is incredibly interesting, altough I assumed she had dementia. It did strike me as peculiar she was nowhere to be found, though. Great video!
Please do more videos on RDR1 strangers!! This fantastic game has been overshadowed by RDR2, and its nice to see someone giving it the respect it deserves.
I notice that with RDR1 Stranger missions in general, you don’t always get closure. Like, you’d think you’d be asked to follow up with the families in American Appetites, but nope.
Also, idk if it’s just me but seeing “He will never dance with another”, always made me sad, like I kinda thought it hinted to his relationship with Alma as being a joyous one with a lot of music/dancing. I kinda wish the mechanics of Undead Nightmare would allow me to bring Alma to him. Idk, I’m stupidly sentimental for a lot of characters in RDR.
One thing I liked about rdr 1 was there’s a mystical eeriness too it. On the surface it seems like a stereotypical western location, deserts, cacti, shootouts, horses etc... but you look a bit deeper and there’s a lot of unexplainable stuff that like you said has no closure. It feels like there’s more than meets the eye in rdr 1, like cannibals in the hills or a ghost woman mourning her lover or a man living with his wife’s corpse convinced she’s alive or a strange man who seems to know John
Fizhy your red dead videos are the best on RUclips by a mile
Really enjoying the red dead 1 videos thanks man
something i like in undead nightmare, when you clear out odd fellows rest, pete turner will come out of his grave and say "you wanna dance with the devil? well here I am"
And alma Horlick will bust out of her grave and say "This was meant to be my perfect day"
Maybe we can find his ghost somewhere and lead him to that church near Armadillo. You can do a similar thing on Skyrim
I mean for my money the best things about the stranger missions in both these games is the ambiguity. Now I understand because of this we can speculate all day on what is and isn’t the truth, and it’s fun to do so. But I’m personally glad they leave so many questions. It just lends to the atmosphere of game and the mystique of the period.
I always found it creepy when we could kill her and her love in undead nightmare lmao
Fun fact: you can find Alma as a zombie in the undead mode
I started playing the game again yesterday and started this mission
Nobody talks about RdR anymore so Thank you! Truly 🥰
Check out the Wreck of the Serendipity in Thieves landing
It still ponders me a lot
In undead nightmare Peter is the boss zombie at odd fellows rest.
This and the second game just perfect the balance between realism and creepiness.
You can play this as jack. I think this signifies that she is dead
Thanks again for the help moving my fridge freezer fizhy mate appreciate it and remember i ain't afraid of no ghosts
Roadhouse
Roadhouse again roadhouse
Probably one of the creepiest strangers missions in the recent rockstar games
John was seeing a lot of ghosts and entities (The Strange Man) towards the end. I wonder if he was starting to get the idea that he himself didn't have long to live or not.
Want to hear my theory my angle my view on Red Dead ?
@@jessicajackson6386 sure, always interested in different points of view.
@@kingbaby8761 Here's my angle my take on Red Dead Redemption... 🏇
Arthur was the only one who really loved John, and as a little brother even tho John is a knuckle head. I've been hanging at the Ranch after dealing with Micah/completing the game and Abigail is always walking away from John especially when he gets too close. Then Uncle follows her.... F**K Abigail and I mean it... She may be a great person in other peoples lives but not Johns... I feel partially John married her to enstill the picture of a family and a honest living to Jack... Yes I hear fans saying if John listens to Abigail and doesn't get revenge for Arthur killing the government plant Micah then the Pinkertons and Milton wouldn't have come for him in such a manner.
Poor John.
I feel that's also why John is a father option in GTA online. I love the idea that he has kids in other places but Abigail being in the gang with him meant he'd be seeing this family every single day every where they moved.
Poor John.
R.i.P. Hosea, the only one with sense in the gang, The Angel on Dutch's shoulder. F**k Micah even tho he had potential.. He is the devil on Dutch's shoulder and I wish he would've just killed Dutch early on instead of ultimately being the reason the gang turned on eachother.
I suppose if Micah wasn't killed then he was the one hunting the other gang members down. You see he kept a tight grip on Dutch even after the gang was apart for years. I don't think fans would have liked playing as Micah but who knows. .
It's sad how John dies but no one ever loved him anyhow as we mentioned, no body but Arthur really maybe Sadie and Charles but mainly Arthur and shoot Uncle does too.
@@jessicajackson6386 I think Abigail loved John as much as she could love anyone. She probably had a rougher childhood than even he had. She was pushed into prostitution about the time she became a teen. She obviously had quite a few anger issues, but so does John. When he dies, she weeps uncontrollably. Her cause of death is never really revealed, but it's heavily alluded to that she died of a broken heart. Just gave up.
Arthur, I think always had love for John, or else he wouldn't have cared that he left for a year. He did see him as a little brother, and it becomes more and more obvious as the game goes on.
Jack was just an isolated, troubled kid. He did care about his dad, or he wouldn't have become an outlaw and hunted down a government agent to avenge him.
Charles cared about everyone in the gang, I believe. But he was a deeply troubled, antisocial man. He had to leave for his own reasons, I couldn't picture him living to much longer afterward.
Sadie, idk. I half think she was using John for personal gain and I half think she's just crazy.
Uncle is just a leach lol. But when the chips were down, he made the ultimate sacrifice for his friends.
Anyway, that's just my assessment of it.
Very good video, good job and keep it up!
Alma Horlick's character in RDR1 seems to be based on the Amelia Haversham character in Charles Dickens' Great Expectations. Both were spinsters who had been living in denial many years after having been essentially "jilted at the altar".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Havisham
I remember this, i always reckoned that she was a ghost
her last name sounds like hollick - voice actor for niko bellic in gta 4
I wouldn't use stuff from Undead Nightmare as evidence since it's pretty heavily implied to be a nightmare that John has while living at Beecher's Hope.
may be misremembering but “he’ll never dance with another” may be a reference to a beatles song according to the wiki
Binge watching fizhy rdr videos and then one coming out-
I think Alma after being stood up at her wedding or being divorced from peter that after she got home she waited and waited Losing her sanity each passing day until she couldn't wait any longer she was furious she started to destroy everything in her home possibly knocking something flammable over causing the house to burn down but this is probably incorrect since if she did do that then she would atleast have soot on her or there would be some damage to her clothing
RDR1 has always been mysterious with them side quest
This ghost lady is one fine example of a very common ghostly occurrence
Someone finds an old house or dials an old number, finds a old person or even a young one at night, Cab drivers get weird passangees that don't speak much but do indeed talk and answer questions
You just look away for a sec or go where they told you to go or do what they told you, you look back they're gone
Then their relatives or close people tell you they have been dead for years and this isn't the first time a stranger interacts with their ghost
As creepy as it is, I really feel bad about Miss Alma Horlick
Pete turners grave stone n this game says he'll never dance with another, but its changed in the new game
1:45 My reaction when the president announced to stay in home quarantine.
Me: 2020 WAS MEANT TO BE MY PERFECT YEAR!
Perhaps an Ecco of a ghost reliving that day!
Thank you 🙏🏽
You can do this mission as Jack to thought i would say it
Yess, he’s making rdr2 mystery videos
Except, he's actually making RDR1 mystery videos.
@@fredster594 shi I missed type I meant to say RD mystery videos. I’m just obsessed with rdr2
@@FranciscoHernandez-ci4gq Okay i'll catch you later then.
I got a random encounter with a guy at a campfire who said that the Braithwaite gold was “stashed where the death adder spits” and in Blood Feuds ancient and modern, Hosea says the gold might be hidden somewhere, idk if this means anything or if it’s just a thing saying the gold doesn’t exist, he said that he looked in copper head landing
Personally I think she just has dementia, but rdr is a creepy series so I won’t deny the possibility of her being a ghost. Also I would never think to call rdr “a creepy series” but as I’m typing this out it really is. Still my fav games tho
I agree it’s a creepy series. One the surface it’s just a cowboy franchise but if you look deeper its really dark involving ghosts, people living with corpses, cannibalism, serial killers, vampires and even an incestuous murderous couple
I like to think she's a spirit. It wouldn't be that much of a stretch honestly. Supernatural stuff happens in the base game all the time if you look hard enough. The Undead Nightmare DLC gets brought up a lot when talking about supernatural stuff in the RDR games but it's not cannon or maybe it is in the way that John had a really long and horrifying awful nightmare. Another way for God to torture him before his untimely demise. It also doesn't make since because you see her in 1914 as Jack if you didn't do it as John. Another thing that doesn't make since is where is Jack and Abigail after you complete the Undead Nightmare DLC? I like to think that's Johns never ending hell and that could be why he doesn't get to see his family but that's just a theory so what actually happened? Then again that is what's amazing about these games a lot of things are left up to interpretation. Like what happened to Jack after the events of the game? How did Abigail die? Where are the surviving members of the gang RDR1 one? In the Undead Nightmare DLC where is Arthur's zombie husk? Johns zombie is only intelligent because of the holy water.
I think she is because in undead nightmare she’s one of the zombies coming out of the grave at the church
What took the cake for me on this mission was how confused the musician was when John asked him about Peter, He just out of nowhere asked him if he was looking for a guy named "Pete Turner"? My point is I think this "Pete Turner" was not the Peter John was meant to look for.
We already know the answer to the question
I wish there were more parts to these stranger missions, rdr2 has better stranger missions by far with 3 or 4 parts of them
Majority of these mysterys are summed up with a maybe
How to suck the fun out of every ambiguous topic 101
I just did this it’s the saddest side story
this is theory of what happened and why she died it was here wedding day her lover never came and she killed herself pretty dark right