Lance Stroll just crashed on a formation lap so please enjoy this Boss 302 while we wait for the GP to continue. Also YES the quarter scoop disappeared for 1970 on other mustangs BUT in 1969 the Boss 302 did away with the scoop first making it a unique attribute of the Boss. Should have explained this more clearly in the video.
The 4 speed in those cars can feel clumsy when driven conservatively. But when wringing the car totally out everything falls beautifully in place. Great car, great drive.
It's so much better than a dream. My husband and I owned a pair of 1970 Boss 302 Mustangs. Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter is the best fun we ever had... with clothes on ❣️
Don’t forget an 8 track stereo with an Eagles tape stuck in the player, and you ripping the tape, leaving behind strands of film tape throughout the center console.
Wish you could enjoy the Thrill ride in a Boss 302 Mustang. My husband and I owned a pair of Bosses. Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter is the best fun we ever had... with clothes on ❣️
Just come to my neighbor Carl’s house for a ride in his Calypso Coral high option, mint condition ‘70 Boss 302. He bought it in 2002 for $26,500. Very, very nice example of the classic. We hit the car shows and cruises together but mine is a ‘70 Nova SS L78 which I prefer of course.
Ford really nailed those 69/70 Mustangs. Growing up a friend’s brother had a Mach one in dark green: still one of my favorite cars. This Boss 302 is a real treat. Thanks Tedward❤
It's a Thrilling ride with that Mustang unmistakable, intimidating loud roar, rumbling growl. My husband and I owned a pair of Boss 302 Mustangs. Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter is the best fun we ever had... with clothes on ❣️
I’ve got a 67 GTO, and all of the power steering cars from the 60’ and early 70’s were over assisted and very fluffy. One trick we can do with the goats is take the box out of Monte Carlo SS and put it in. The top of the box fits right on top so your codes are still correct, but you have variable ratio. It makes a HUGE difference.
@@TedwardDrives- Meh. My first car was a ‘63 Falcon ragtop with a 260 V8 and 3 on the tree. No power steering. No power anything. Drum brakes all around. It wasn’t hard to drive.
What yr monte? I put a 12:1 variable rate box in my 67 'El many yrs ago its just right. Doesnt feel over assisted anymore, more like power rack n pinion One of the best improvements you can do in old iron
@ I believe it was a mid 80’s. I believe they changed from the Saginaw box after that? It’s been so long ago I’m not positive. I’ll dig into it and get back with you. Yea, those 60’s power steering cars are so over assisted and vague feeling, it ruins the driving experience.
The sound of that small block Ford is so good that I kept wanting to hear it more and more. Beautiful car, beautiful sound and a beautiful day for a drive. Thanks, Tedward!
I love how raw these old 60's muscle cars are, the engine, the whine of the transmission, the robust shifting and heavy clutch, these cars give you the driving experience at it's fullest unlike modern cars that do everything they can to remove you from the experience.
That's what drives me nuts, when someone takes one and pulls the soul right out of it by modernizing everything. It's easy enough to clone some of the classics (like an LS6 454--just grab a big block out of any junkyard and slap parts on, then go find some car like a disco era Vette) affordably, and if you want a more civilized car, then go buy a used LS1 or Hemi. But even on my 68 Olds 4-4-2, just moving the turn signal with a finger, you realize it isn't plastic--there's heft to it, you're moving something metal around.
Bluespinningdotinspace nobody cares what a 80 hp lawnmower did or still do, the pinnacle for cars design and driving factor are these muscle cars, the civic won’t Make millions laters on bit being rusted and crushed as every economy 4 banger does 🙃
Its a completely different experience driving a classic car. There's no airbags, traction control, ABS, everything is analog. Its just you, and the car. It feels amazing, and it doesn't even need to be fast. At least that's how I feel driving my 1988 Firebird Formula 350 WS6.
You got it right man. My husband and I owned a pair of Bosses. Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter is the best fun we ever had with clothes on ❣️
Man, you got to live many men’s dream getting to drive this. Think this will be as close I’ll ever get to drive one myself, thanks for the awesome ride.
That Mustang is in amazing condition and I adore the color! It's always so refreshing to see a bright color among the mundane silver and white of today's cars.
Yeah! Sweet memories driving the Boss 302! My fiancee and I parked our pair of Bosses at church on our wedding day. Mine was Grabber green. His car color just like this review, was called competition gold, Not grabber orange. After the ceremony, we ran out, jumped in his car that guests had decorated with shaving cream on the doors, tin cans tied on the bumper, with rice flying in our faces, falling in his car seats. He was livid. We tore out with that unmistakable Mustang roar, rumbling, growling, squalling, spinning sideways, leaving a match set of black marks, boiling gray smoke amidst folks standing on the curb, in jaw dropping awe. He had to go wash his Boss, before driving to our honeymoon in Cherokee NC. The Boss is not a straight line track car. Drive the Blue Ridge Parkway, to get the full thrill ride. Trips with our Boss Mustang Car Club thru these hills, Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter, hugging those curves, is the best fun we ever had... With clothes on... Thanks for the virtual tour of my memories ❣️ Have fun...
I would never drive a classic such as the Boss 302 or any of my machines to a wedding. You pretty much know the clowns are going to mess with the car; I have been told by some of the clueless; "It's just a car." Did the shoe polish or whatever they used come completely out of the paint? Take a look at the paint up close in the light; paint without a clear coat is porous to some extent. 😵💫
Back in hung out on Van Nuys Blvd on Wed nights at Bobs Big Boy. at the time I had a 1967 Corvette that had been a 427 435 hp 4 speed. Thanks to the plastic coming off the main timing gear at 42000 miles...not an uncommon occurance I learned...the Corvette was now running a LS6 short block with LS7 cam and springs and the original top end including the tripower. it was black on black. i met a girl around 20 who had a 70 Boss 302 just like the one in this video. we became friends and exchanged rides sometimes. At the time I also owned 69 Z28 Camaro with the 4 wheel disc brakes which was totally stock. The Boss 302 was noticeably stronger than the Z28. A few years previously I watched Donahue in the Penske Z28 fight it out with Jones in a TransAm race at Bryar. Donahue won that race driving in his usual impeccably smooth manner. But Jones had the edge in power on the straights. The actual TA race cars were a far cry from their street brethern. They had a lot more suspension under them sat lower had different aero aids such as larger front spoilers and engines that by 69 and 70 were putting out well in excess of 400 hp. It was a great series with great cars...probably the last where factories competed against each ither with something approximating what you could walk into a dealership and buy then proceed to the parts department buy the homologated race parts proceed to some outfit like Holman Moody or Traco for some engine upgrades and then go to the track and race. of course you still wouldnt be competitive with the factory or high sponsored teams such as Penske .But you had the honor of being passed by people like Donahue Jones Follmer Gurney and Savage. when I lived in California Id go to Monterey every year to watch these cars race. only thing more excitingvwas when a Corvette zgran Sport showed up. Watching the rear tires spin coming out of a slow corner was awesome it was a good time to be alive and young.
@@JoeFreeman-y2d Miss the days of cruising van nuys blvd, super shops an the st race scene in the sfv 80s. If you ever hung out at Kevins Burgers Fri. night you may remember a couple matching Boss 302s.
The 69/70s were a serious leap in handling from the 67 that I owned, the 67 had a mind of its own on the road and the brakes were a suggestion but the 73’ mach 1 that I owned was the car to travel in, lots and lots of good highway miles, loved the Drive with you, your videos are the boss ;)
I would never get tired of running through the gears in this car, it's like it wants you to enjoy it. I get the same vibes from my TA, only it's a completely different torque curve. I would love to own a Boss 302!
That was a nice treat. It has the style, the sound, the great classic looks, the limited run of Boss and even though it might not be so fast by today's standard still very desirable. I appreciate the ride along and that you didn't baby it.
Thanks for the drive, this brings back a lot of memories for this 75 year old! Back in 1970 my karate instructor thought the grabber blue Boss 302. I had a 1970 Z 28 so he let me drive his Boss end it was really an experience! (not to mention, I was nervous as hell)… was thinking please don’t let anybody hit me. Glad to see you enjoying this piece of automotive history! 👍❤️
The scariest night in a muscle car was the night I was sitting in the middle of the bench seat of a 1969 440-powered Dodge Super Bee. As we left the tavern, it was WOT through the gears. Looking at the speedometer the needle had wound past the markings and was bouncing off the peg when we hit a dip in the road. Realizing we were dead as the car bottomed out and rebounded up slightly sideways. How Kenny maintained control I will never know. PS Kenny is gone however, it was due to old age; RIP, Kenny; that was one heck of a ride...
@@a.t1313 Those cars didn't handle well in the first place. I was sure as the Super Bee bottomed Kenny would lose control; we were not wearing seatbelts not that it would have made any difference at 140mph plus. That was the last time I ever rode with him period. I did some stupid stuff like 150+ in my 1968 427 Corvette Convertable in the dark; never considering what would happen if a deer jumped out.
@jamesw.6931 I had a similar experience summer 1980, going out to a bush party in a friend's 69 383 Super Commando Super Bee on the highway going past cars doing 70 like they standing still, seen speedo past 140 back to zero hit dip on highway front end rose way up, no tire sound on road, sensation of floating was easily the most scared I've ever been, thank God Darryl did zero input on steering wheel or our lives would have ended there at 17
It is interesting how a man a generation later sees the '70 Boss Mustang. I grew up with these cars and they are still incredible. We always added more power, of course
In the Spring of 1976 a friend of mine on our high school golf team was given a Boss just like this one for his 18th birthday. I never drove it but rode to golf everyday after school in it...always been in love with this car!
Love the sight and sound of that Boss 302! I drive a 65 2+2 with a warmed up 331 and a 4 speed Toploader. It's so much fun rowing these cars through the gears. And lots and lots of thumbs up, smiles, and stories. Thanks for the ride!
thanx dude...aint been behind the wheel of a boss since 1975 when my B friend dad bought him one for school...took me about 40 mins to watch this cuz i kept stopin an goin bak in time,,,again Thanx partner...
My high school friend bought one in 1970. He worked at a Ford dealership. They pulled the engine, put it 14:1 piston, a racing cam, and 4.11 gears. The car ran 11.99 at the local dragstrip. It was estimated the engine made between 390 and 410 hp.
I was 15 years old when i first layed eyes on the 70 Boss 302, Grabber Orange. My neighbour purchased one and i could not stop looking and wondering how this thing rode. Definitely one of my favorite mustangs. Looks Fantastic. I currently drive a 69 Mustang Grandé 302. It's fun to drive and they are a different animal to drive. Just love mustangs and this One! Thanks for the Ride !
My close friend had the same car back in 71 except it was the red color. Totally awesome and meant to be driven at high revs and hard shifting for the best experience. My other friend had the 69 Z and he would work out of town so gave it to me to keep a few days each month. It was a blast to drive. Nothing in my years owning various muscle cars since has ever come close to these cars and the driving experience!
It's totally analog and up to you to handle. No ABS, no automatic, no safety sensors, no traction control. It's like riding a steel horse: you handle the machine and it responds accordingly no matter what, for better or worse!
Wow, what a treat! I grew up going to Laguna Seca with my Dad and got the thrill of witnessing the Bud Moore Boss 302s being piloted by Parnelli Jones & George Follmer (and others). I still attend the Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion every year and the Trans Am series never fails to be exciting. They have remained my absolute favorites over the decades and a proper Boss such as this one is one of my top 5 dream cars. I’ve never had the opportunity to ride in one, much less drive one, and I’m sure there isn’t one in my realistic future, so thank you for doing this feature. It was a serious joy to ride along with you.
Yeah man, great time when we toured Bud Moore's shop in SC back in the day. My husband and I owned a pair of 1970 Boss 302 Mustangs. Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter is the best fun we ever had... with clothes on ❣️
Great review! Those are my favorite Mustang years. My cousin had a 73 Mach I (in ‘73) and she wrapped it around a telephone pole. She was fine but I cried over that car.
These old cars are great to own. Easy to work on with basic tools, Ford reliability and engineering. Lots of fun and a terrific investment. Keep it fully insured, take care if it and you can't go wrong. Another superb review!
I used to own cars of this vintage and performance, they are all gone and now way over my retirement budget so I've moved to 80's superbikes. Thank you so much for the ride and you're exactly right, the limits and lack of driving aids make it enjoyable at a saner pace than modern examples.
In today's world, my 2018 Fiesta ST would out-drag out run on the top end, out corner, and out stop with the AC on, however. Of all the performance vehicles I have owned, I miss my 1970 Vels Parnelli Jones purchased yellow Boss 302 that was sold due to my first marriage. PS I have even attempted to locate the BOSS but was unsuccessful... SUBSCRIBED
Yes, I own 2017 GT 350 which performance wise is much greater due to 50 years of engineering progress. But when I was a kid, the boss 302 Was new and I fell in love with it.
@@cashmoney7660 I suppose the reason I miss my Boss 302 and look at pictures of it longly; is because it reminds me of a time that has passed because. Taking my wife's 1967 Mustang Fastback 289 auto for a short drive. I cannot wait to get it back in the shop if you know what I'm saying...😉 PS why did Ford have that over boosted power steering anyway? 🤔
I don't recall the side scoops ever on a '70 Mustang, these are my favorite body styles. In 2005 the gen 5 'stang was a new stance to mimic the 1970, almost bought one.
On Australian racetracks in the 70s, which were fairly tight to restrict speeds it turned out the Boss 302 made comfortably quicker track times than the Boss 429, both versions tried by Alan Moffat's racing team IIRC. The heavier big block engine just threw the handling out to a disadvantage without enough high-speed sections to compensate.
That doesn't surprise this Yank at all. It seems to me that one of the failings of Ford's American offerings was poor weight distribution. It hurts acceleration because you can't get as much weight transfer onto the rear tires as you'd like. It hurts braking because the forward weight transfer doesn't allow more braking from the rear tires. The handling suffers because too much weight on the front tires creates understeer. The big block engines being cast iron only make these problems worse. Those that only care about 0-60 MPH and 1/4 mile times like the big blocks. They excel there, but that's about it.
Pure fun with plenty of image were build into these special cars that were only manual's, not to mention probably the best looking 2 years of the Mustang. Thanks for the drive.
Nice car, for sure. As per Larry Shinoda, in an interview in one of our old car mags, the name "Boss" came from the street lingo at the time... something hip or cool was said to be "Boss, man." Although Shinoda respected Knudsen, he had his own aspirations: "I want to be the first Japanese-American president of Ford", he mused. Later, he was chided by readers of enthusiast mags, as the term "Boss" went way back to the mid-'60's, and was long out of vogue by the time the car came out.
Sat in the back seat of one exactly like that maybe 3 decades ago. Owner didn't flog it but got on the gas a little. Remember the locker rear end clacking in the corners. I was scared to even move around out of fear of doing even doing the slightest damage to the inside of it considering it took him eight years of asking the former owner if he would sell it to him and finally got it.
The Cleveland heads are simply special. The 69/70 stang is very underrated in many aspects. The power steering can be tuned to be more precise. I have 70 Mach1 with 500hp 351c, 4sp / 4.30 rear, same aero package and shaker….owned it for 47 years since I was 17. You mentioned C3s…. I also own a C3 1982 Convertible :) yes convertible, with an LS6 454 crate motor, side pipes and 5 speed….it weighs in at 3350 with stock AC… When the motors and suspensions are tuned to perfection, the 70 Stang and c3 BB represent a space in time that cannot be explain in words…or maybe “Acid Trip” is close. (Not that I ever did that….). The problem is that the older cars alway need more tuning/adjust even when new… engineering has come a long long way.
They had the same large round ports as the 429/460, and were way too much for this little street engine. Many reviewers were disappointed in the fact they weren't getting the power until Ford's recommended red line. Part of the reason many of these cars with original engines don't exist anymore is because owners ignored the red line. The engine would pull hard from 5500 to 7000 and above, but then it also eventually threw a rod. The design of those fire breathing heads are still used on Ford NASCAR engines to this day.
@@HAL-dm1eh My stang is lightened with a fiberglass hood and other items. Lots of compression and a relatively short duration high lift .600 cam. Lots of gear….and wide ratio top loader. Once over 3500rpm….hold on for dear life…. Even under 3500 it would light up….. it saw 7500rpm countless times :)
@@HAL-dm1eh yes, most of the owners would disconnect the factory installed rev limiter go racing and blow the motor. That’s why so few these have the original engine most have a Ford service replacement short block.
You can actually bolt Cleveland heads onto a Windsor block, using a special intake manifold. Which is one reason why these cars were so special. The Cleveland heads are significantly better, so much so, that the Boss 302 is an engine who's HP rating was closer to Net rating than the Gross rating used on most cars at the time. So, it was one of the "underrated" engines of the time.
The BOSS 302 was "rated" at 290HP (GROSS) to bypass the insurance "surcharge" that was added on high performance machines. The '69 Z-28 (302) was also rated at 290HP!
I had a Tyco slot car of the race version of this car when I was a little kid in the early 70s. It had the louvers. I loved that thing. I also had a Fox body with the louvers. They banged on the rear window so I took them off.
I love the steering wheel. Reminds me of my dad's old 77 Ford Sedan that had a similar steering wheel. Also that smell of old vinyl everywhere brings back memories 😀
Mine was Grabber blue, wood grain dash with clock, honeycomb panel on the tailight panel. Blew the original engine up and replaced it with a 66 FE 427 with 2 factory 4 barrel carbs. A buddy of mine still has it.
I had the Chevrolet equivalent - 1969 Z28. Bought it in 1975, previous owner had installed a set of 5.13's in the rear which was insane. Swapped in a set of 4.11's, drove it like a madman for a few years and traded it for an old Vette.
What a beautiful machine! The POV was a great way to share the experience of this ride along! Everything from the exterior styling, to the color and to the sound is definitely classic Mustang! I quite enjoy cruising in my '21 Twister Orange GT 6 speed convertible with the fall colored leaves on the country roads like in this video!
I'm a Chevy guy too....and I'd give you a thumbs up! If I had my choice of any Ford from that era it'd be a Boss 302. Although I prefer the look of the 70. I absolutely love the small block screamers from that time. And I think the 70 Z/28 was the Pinnacle of the small block pony cars, the Boss 302 is the best looking mustang ever made. Those 2 would be my top picks but I love them all!
Just the engine had to be sold to the public. The BOSS 429 engine was never raced in a Mustang, it was used in the Talladega (Torino fastback) and Mercury Cyclone Spoiler II.
@@betsyduane3461 That is true only for the NASCAR rules. For Trans-Am the whole car had to be homologated hence all the makes racing in the series releasing their own Trans-Am editions. Some of the race cars used were simply showroom bought cars that were modified and used as extra cars. This was the case for one of the Challenger T/A cars raced in the series.
I've always wanted one of these since before I started driving. Closest thing I had was a '72 w/351C. But that thing drove more like a boat. Also had those tall ass gears so it wasn't that fast off the line. Never got around to modding it very much. Once I got my '01, all the attention went to that car!
Always wondered about that Boss naming story. In the 1960's a family moved in next door from Los Angeles. The kid kept using the word Boss for something he liked and thought was cool or neat. He said everybody said it back at home. In a year or so everybody used it in my Nor-Cal city too
Reality check: A stock BOSS 302 could barely break 15sec in the quarter. It needed "help" with some add-ons! My '20 Blazer V6 can do the same in the 1/4 mile, with 220ci AND an AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION! I guess that's progress!!!!
Good video. I had a 1970 Boss 302 in the '70s. And I totally agree about the steering being too light. In fact, if I was ever going to do any hard driving, I would take a power steering hose off so that the steering did have a better feel. Good video brought back good memories
I owned a 1970 cobra jet 429 Torino and it was allot of fun at the drag strip. I’m an old fart so the car was new when I had it and I eventually traded it for a 1970 Judge GTO convertible that was three years old. That car no longer exists but I had a blast . I still own a 77 Trans Am locked in my garage that I built for drag racing before my back went bad after 45 years of working as a mechanic.
Lance Stroll just crashed on a formation lap so please enjoy this Boss 302 while we wait for the GP to continue. Also YES the quarter scoop disappeared for 1970 on other mustangs BUT in 1969 the Boss 302 did away with the scoop first making it a unique attribute of the Boss. Should have explained this more clearly in the video.
well knowing Stroll you and i will be waiting for a long time won’t we 😁
I guess we can say he was Strolling in the rain
Don’t let Stroll drive this car
Oh boy, what a wild ride was it...
Reading this later on in the day after the race gave me a good laugh
The 4 speed in those cars can feel clumsy when driven conservatively. But when wringing the car totally out everything falls beautifully in place. Great car, great drive.
same with 4th gen Z28s
not really just gotta man handle it
Do you know if they are the top loader we got in australia or something different for the states?
@@fortheloveofnoise May be worn. New they shifted like butter. Have an LTx 6 spd in my 67 camino
@@seanyuke3249 1970 Boss 302's came with a toploader. You would get close or wide ratios depending on the rear end ratio.
Driving an orange boss mustang in the fall, just cruising and hearing that V8 roar and the gears whine. Sounds like a dream
It's so much better than a dream.
My husband and I owned a pair of 1970 Boss 302 Mustangs. Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter is the best fun we ever had... with clothes on ❣️
The Great Pumpkin....that charlie brown never had
@@sharonbramlett7102 Bet you can't drive for sh#&.
Don’t forget an 8 track stereo with an Eagles tape stuck in the player, and you ripping the tape, leaving behind strands of film tape throughout the center console.
Waited 54 years for my ride in a Boss 302. This was it. Thanks much for a superb video.
Wish you could enjoy the Thrill ride in a Boss 302 Mustang.
My husband and I owned a pair of Bosses. Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter is the best fun we ever had... with clothes on ❣️
@@sharonbramlett7102 I bet!! Never got to drive a boss, did with a few 69 Z/28s. THrow headers and 4.56 gears in them they really came to life.
As close as I will ever get.
Just come to my neighbor Carl’s house for a ride in his Calypso Coral high option, mint condition ‘70 Boss 302. He bought it in 2002 for $26,500. Very, very nice example of the classic. We hit the car shows and cruises together but mine is a ‘70 Nova SS L78 which I prefer of course.
@@kimmorrison9169 L78s are my fav 396.
That was a good price for 2002 hope he drives it often
I bought my Boss 429 used during the gas crunch, everyone thought I was crazy, grandkid has it now
GRANDCHILD!?! 🤦🏻♂️
@@MrJohnnyDistortion Ok, Gramps...
@@stillnotwoke
He gave his grandchild a 429 Stang?🤦🏻♂️
You gave you grandkid a car worth maybe close to a half million dollars?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!😵
@@dusty7264
You're full of bull 💩! 😃
Ford really nailed those 69/70 Mustangs. Growing up a friend’s brother had a Mach one in dark green: still one of my favorite cars. This Boss 302 is a real treat. Thanks Tedward❤
- IMO 1969-70 was 'peak' Mustang styling, still emulated on current models..
I have seen a couple of Mustang Mach 1s in dark green, it seems to have been a popular color with them, probably because it just looks so darn Good!
Bought my Shelby GT in 1970, getting it back on the road.
7:55 I really love the whine and solid "thrum" it makes when changing gears at full throttle, just sounds so mean.
It's a Thrilling ride with that Mustang unmistakable, intimidating loud roar, rumbling growl. My husband and I owned a pair of Boss 302 Mustangs. Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter is the best fun we ever had... with clothes on ❣️
Yes! its not about how much power it makes, just hearing and feeling it work, the mechanical music it gives. Best drug on the planet, never gets old!
My 2024 GT Convertible makes a similar noise with the 10 speed auto…54 years alter with great drivetrain nosies.
I’ve got a 67 GTO, and all of the power steering cars from the 60’ and early 70’s were over assisted and very fluffy. One trick we can do with the goats is take the box out of Monte Carlo SS and put it in. The top of the box fits right on top so your codes are still correct, but you have variable ratio. It makes a HUGE difference.
I like that plan. Removing completely would probably make the car unbearably hard to drive at low speeds
@@TedwardDrives- Meh. My first car was a ‘63 Falcon ragtop with a 260 V8 and 3 on the tree. No power steering. No power anything. Drum brakes all around. It wasn’t hard to drive.
@@TedwardDrives Yours may have a quicker ratio steering box
What yr monte? I put a 12:1 variable rate box in my 67 'El many yrs ago its just right. Doesnt feel over assisted anymore, more like power rack n pinion
One of the best improvements you can do in old iron
@ I believe it was a mid 80’s. I believe they changed from the Saginaw box after that? It’s been so long ago I’m not positive. I’ll dig into it and get back with you.
Yea, those 60’s power steering cars are so over assisted and vague feeling, it ruins the driving experience.
The sound of that small block Ford is so good that I kept wanting to hear it more and more. Beautiful car, beautiful sound and a beautiful day for a drive. Thanks, Tedward!
WE LOVE YOU TEDWARD
I love how raw these old 60's muscle cars are, the engine, the whine of the transmission, the robust shifting and heavy clutch, these cars give you the driving experience at it's fullest unlike modern cars that do everything they can to remove you from the experience.
That's what drives me nuts, when someone takes one and pulls the soul right out of it by modernizing everything. It's easy enough to clone some of the classics (like an LS6 454--just grab a big block out of any junkyard and slap parts on, then go find some car like a disco era Vette) affordably, and if you want a more civilized car, then go buy a used LS1 or Hemi. But even on my 68 Olds 4-4-2, just moving the turn signal with a finger, you realize it isn't plastic--there's heft to it, you're moving something metal around.
So true.
This was far from peak car design era, a 90s civic can corner better than those with no fancy electronics, even stock
Bluespinningdotinspace nobody cares what a 80 hp lawnmower did or still do, the pinnacle for cars design and driving factor are these muscle cars, the civic won’t Make millions laters on bit being rusted and crushed as every economy 4 banger does 🙃
@ yeah thats why formula one still uses v8 lmao get out of here grandpa
Its a completely different experience driving a classic car. There's no airbags, traction control, ABS, everything is analog. Its just you, and the car. It feels amazing, and it doesn't even need to be fast. At least that's how I feel driving my 1988 Firebird Formula 350 WS6.
You got it right man. My husband and I owned a pair of Bosses. Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter is the best fun we ever had with clothes on ❣️
Love these older muscle cars!!
Pony cars :)
Man, you got to live many men’s dream getting to drive this. Think this will be as close I’ll ever get to drive one myself, thanks for the awesome ride.
Man, that’s a great sounding V8! Keep up the great work, and love the classics recently.
Small block Fords do sound nice
That Mustang is in amazing condition and I adore the color! It's always so refreshing to see a bright color among the mundane silver and white of today's cars.
Yeah! Sweet memories driving the Boss 302! My fiancee and I parked our pair of Bosses at church on our wedding day. Mine was Grabber green. His car color just like this review, was called competition gold, Not grabber orange. After the ceremony, we ran out, jumped in his car that guests had decorated with shaving cream on the doors, tin cans tied on the bumper, with rice flying in our faces, falling in his car seats. He was livid. We tore out with that unmistakable Mustang roar, rumbling, growling, squalling, spinning sideways, leaving a match set of black marks, boiling gray smoke amidst folks standing on the curb, in jaw dropping awe. He had to go wash his Boss, before driving to our honeymoon in Cherokee NC.
The Boss is not a straight line track car. Drive the Blue Ridge Parkway, to get the full thrill ride. Trips with our Boss Mustang Car Club thru these hills, Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter, hugging those curves, is the best fun we ever had... With clothes on...
Thanks for the virtual tour of my memories ❣️ Have fun...
Awesome comment, thanks!
I would never drive a classic such as the Boss 302 or any of my machines to a wedding. You pretty much know the clowns are going to mess with the car; I have been told by some of the clueless; "It's just a car." Did the shoe polish or whatever they used come completely out of the paint? Take a look at the paint up close in the light; paint without a clear coat is porous to some extent. 😵💫
@jamesw.6931 I took Sharon's comment as a "back in the day" remembrance...still a cool story either way.
Back in hung out on Van Nuys Blvd on Wed nights at Bobs Big Boy.
at the time I had a 1967 Corvette that had been a 427 435 hp 4 speed. Thanks to the plastic coming off the main timing gear at 42000 miles...not an uncommon occurance I learned...the Corvette was now running a LS6 short block with LS7 cam and springs and the original top end including the tripower. it was black on black.
i met a girl around 20 who had a 70 Boss 302 just like the one in this video. we became friends and exchanged rides sometimes. At the time I also owned 69 Z28 Camaro with the 4 wheel disc brakes which was totally stock.
The Boss 302 was noticeably stronger than the Z28.
A few years previously I watched Donahue in the Penske Z28 fight it out with Jones in a TransAm race at Bryar.
Donahue won that race driving in his usual impeccably smooth manner.
But Jones had the edge in power on the straights.
The actual TA race cars were a far cry from their street brethern.
They had a lot more suspension under them sat lower had different aero aids such as larger front spoilers and engines that by 69 and 70 were putting out well in excess of 400 hp.
It was a great series with great cars...probably the last where factories competed against each ither with something approximating what you could walk into a dealership and buy then proceed to the parts department buy the homologated race parts proceed to some outfit like Holman Moody or Traco for some engine upgrades and then go to the track and race.
of course you still wouldnt be competitive with the factory or high sponsored teams such as Penske .But you had the honor of being passed by people like Donahue Jones Follmer Gurney and Savage.
when I lived in California Id go to Monterey every year to watch these cars race.
only thing more excitingvwas when a Corvette zgran Sport showed up. Watching the rear tires spin coming out of a slow corner was awesome
it was a good time to be alive and young.
@@JoeFreeman-y2d Miss the days of cruising van nuys blvd, super shops an the st race scene in the sfv 80s.
If you ever hung out at Kevins Burgers Fri. night you may remember a couple matching Boss 302s.
The 69/70s were a serious leap in handling from the 67 that I owned, the 67 had a mind of its own on the road and the brakes were a suggestion but the 73’ mach 1 that I owned was the car to travel in, lots and lots of good highway miles, loved the Drive with you, your videos are the boss ;)
I'm not a Ford guy, but that car looks and sounds MAGNIFICENT. Spectacular video.
I would never get tired of running through the gears in this car, it's like it wants you to enjoy it. I get the same vibes from my TA, only it's a completely different torque curve. I would love to own a Boss 302!
Brings back memories of my 66 Mustang 2+2 GT K Code that was a great ride!
That was a nice treat. It has the style, the sound, the great classic looks, the limited run of Boss and even though it might not be so fast by today's standard still very desirable. I appreciate the ride along and that you didn't baby it.
What an icon! The way that shaker hood shook 🤌🤌...loved the history lesson on the Boss 302 too! Another fantastic review Tedward!!
Love the Shaker!
I have a small block 64’ corvette coupe and I have a blast driving it. The Boss 302 would be my next choice. Thanks for the ride!
Thanks for the drive, this brings back a lot of memories for this 75 year old! Back in 1970 my karate instructor thought the grabber blue Boss 302. I had a 1970 Z 28 so he let me drive his Boss end it was really an experience! (not to mention, I was nervous as hell)… was thinking please don’t let anybody hit me. Glad to see you enjoying this piece of automotive history! 👍❤️
You should have driven a 67-69 Z28 with its 302. It was a Boss killer
So did you let him drive your Z....? 😊
One of the scariest nights of my life was spent in the back seat of one of these, driving around Chicago at night.
The scariest night in a muscle car was the night I was sitting in the middle of the bench seat of a 1969 440-powered Dodge Super Bee. As we left the tavern, it was WOT through the gears. Looking at the speedometer the needle had wound past the markings and was bouncing off the peg when we hit a dip in the road. Realizing we were dead as the car bottomed out and rebounded up slightly sideways. How Kenny maintained control I will never know. PS Kenny is gone however, it was due to old age; RIP, Kenny; that was one heck of a ride...
@@jamesw.6931 That does sound very scawy
@@a.t1313 Those cars didn't handle well in the first place. I was sure as the Super Bee bottomed Kenny would lose control; we were not wearing seatbelts not that it would have made any difference at 140mph plus. That was the last time I ever rode with him period. I did some stupid stuff like 150+ in my 1968 427 Corvette Convertable in the dark; never considering what would happen if a deer jumped out.
@jamesw.6931 I had a similar experience summer 1980, going out to a bush party in a friend's 69 383 Super Commando Super Bee on the highway going past cars doing 70 like they standing still, seen speedo past 140 back to zero hit dip on highway front end rose way up, no tire sound on road, sensation of floating was easily the most scared I've ever been, thank God Darryl did zero input on steering wheel or our lives would have ended there at 17
I also never got in that car with him again
It is interesting how a man a generation later sees the '70 Boss Mustang. I grew up with these cars and they are still incredible. We always added more power, of course
When I was a teenager a guy down the street has a red boss 302.With black spoilers and window slates,it was a really good looking car.
In the Spring of 1976 a friend of mine on our high school golf team was given a Boss just like this one for his 18th birthday. I never drove it but rode to golf everyday after school in it...always been in love with this car!
Love the sight and sound of that Boss 302! I drive a 65 2+2 with a warmed up 331 and a 4 speed Toploader. It's so much fun rowing these cars through the gears. And lots and lots of thumbs up, smiles, and stories. Thanks for the ride!
My neighbor, growing up in the 70's had a orange '69 Cougar eliminator. Very cool car back then.
thanx dude...aint been behind the wheel of a boss since 1975 when my B friend dad bought him one for school...took me about 40 mins to watch this cuz i kept stopin an goin bak in time,,,again Thanx partner...
My high school friend bought one in 1970. He worked at a Ford dealership. They pulled the engine, put it 14:1 piston, a racing cam, and 4.11 gears. The car ran 11.99 at the local dragstrip. It was estimated the engine made between 390 and 410 hp.
I was 15 years old when i first layed eyes on the 70 Boss 302, Grabber Orange. My neighbour purchased one and i could not stop looking and wondering how this thing rode. Definitely one of my favorite mustangs. Looks Fantastic. I currently drive a 69 Mustang Grandé 302. It's fun to drive and they are a different animal to drive. Just love mustangs and this One! Thanks for the Ride !
My close friend had the same car back in 71 except it was the red color. Totally awesome and meant to be driven at high revs and hard shifting for the best experience. My other friend had the 69 Z and he would work out of town so gave it to me to keep a few days each month. It was a blast to drive. Nothing in my years owning various muscle cars since has ever come close to these cars and the driving experience!
I really want to at least once drive a Mustang from this era. There's just something so special about cars from the 60s and 70s
It's totally analog and up to you to handle. No ABS, no automatic, no safety sensors, no traction control. It's like riding a steel horse: you handle the machine and it responds accordingly no matter what, for better or worse!
I love your quote about you tell the car what to do. You don’t ask permission. 👍
Wow, what a treat! I grew up going to Laguna Seca with my Dad and got the thrill of witnessing the Bud Moore Boss 302s being piloted by Parnelli Jones & George Follmer (and others). I still attend the Rolex Monterey Motorsports Reunion every year and the Trans Am series never fails to be exciting. They have remained my absolute favorites over the decades and a proper Boss such as this one is one of my top 5 dream cars. I’ve never had the opportunity to ride in one, much less drive one, and I’m sure there isn’t one in my realistic future, so thank you for doing this feature. It was a serious joy to ride along with you.
Yeah man, great time when we toured Bud Moore's shop in SC back in the day. My husband and I owned a pair of 1970 Boss 302 Mustangs. Banging through the gears with that Hurst T-handle shifter is the best fun we ever had... with clothes on ❣️
@@sharonbramlett7102 Here we go again, settle down Granny... 😉
Great review! Those are my favorite Mustang years.
My cousin had a 73 Mach I (in ‘73) and she wrapped it around a telephone pole. She was fine but I cried over that car.
im76 years old and over those year l have owned 27 mustangs my favorite 1969 mach 1 428 super cobra jet
These old cars are great to own. Easy to work on with basic tools, Ford reliability and engineering. Lots of fun and a terrific investment. Keep it fully insured, take care if it and you can't go wrong. Another superb review!
What an amazing video. I have never been for a ride in a Boss 302 until today. What an amazing car!!!! Thank you for the experience!
Absolutely gorgeous !
Seats and "skinny wheel" never saw track day...👍🏁
I used to own cars of this vintage and performance, they are all gone and now way over my retirement budget so I've moved to 80's superbikes. Thank you so much for the ride and you're exactly right, the limits and lack of driving aids make it enjoyable at a saner pace than modern examples.
In today's world, my 2018 Fiesta ST would out-drag out run on the top end, out corner, and out stop with the AC on, however. Of all the performance vehicles I have owned, I miss my 1970 Vels Parnelli Jones purchased yellow Boss 302 that was sold due to my first marriage. PS I have even attempted to locate the BOSS but was unsuccessful... SUBSCRIBED
Yes, I own 2017 GT 350 which performance wise is much greater due to 50 years of engineering progress. But when I was a kid, the boss 302 Was new and I fell in love with it.
@@cashmoney7660 I suppose the reason I miss my Boss 302 and look at pictures of it longly; is because it reminds me of a time that has passed because. Taking my wife's 1967 Mustang Fastback 289 auto for a short drive. I cannot wait to get it back in the shop if you know what I'm saying...😉 PS why did Ford have that over boosted power steering anyway? 🤔
SWEET!! I'VE DRIVEN A 302 POWERED FORD FOR 30 YEARS NOW SO I LOVE THIS!
Love the vid as a Ford fan from the 70s. I drove those cars daily, winter and summer. the Boss 302 was a road course racer Not a street light jumper.
So flipping fun driving an old 4spd muscle/sports car around, and that was a beautiful drive in the fall! Hell yeah!
Larry Shinoda: C2/C3 Corvette, Boss Mustang and Porsche 928 in his credits. Much respect.
You can make me watch any kind of car with your videos and I will always enjoy them, great stuff as always
There's a green Boss 302 around town I see every once and a while. Beautiful
And I love green!
A car built to take on road courses. Such a joy to see still on the road !
I don't recall the side scoops ever on a '70 Mustang, these are my favorite body styles. In 2005 the gen 5 'stang was a new stance to mimic the 1970, almost bought one.
Only '69 had quarter scoops.
None of the 1970’s had side scoops. Unfortunately makes me question the accuracy of the rest of his “facts”
On Australian racetracks in the 70s, which were fairly tight to restrict speeds it turned out the Boss 302 made comfortably quicker track times than the Boss 429, both versions tried by Alan Moffat's racing team IIRC. The heavier big block engine just threw the handling out to a disadvantage without enough high-speed sections to compensate.
That doesn't surprise this Yank at all. It seems to me that one of the failings of Ford's American offerings was poor weight distribution.
It hurts acceleration because you can't get as much weight transfer onto the rear tires as you'd like. It hurts braking because the forward weight transfer doesn't allow more braking from the rear tires. The handling suffers because too much weight on the front tires creates understeer.
The big block engines being cast iron only make these problems worse. Those that only care about 0-60 MPH and 1/4 mile times like the big blocks. They excel there, but that's about it.
Awesome Tedward, one of my all time favorite cars. Thanks for taking the time to share!
You uploaded, TopherDrives uploaded, TheTopher uploaded holy crap … I didn’t know what to watch firstttt
Two of my closest friends!
@ I know!! You 3 are my favourite automotive reviewers!
appreciate the new camera angles, of the bonnet scoop and from the back seats on the motorway!
Pure fun with plenty of image were build into these special cars that were only manual's, not to mention probably the best looking 2 years of the Mustang. Thanks for the drive.
Nice car, for sure.
As per Larry Shinoda, in an interview in one of our old car mags, the name "Boss" came from the street lingo at the time... something hip or cool was said to be "Boss, man." Although Shinoda respected Knudsen, he had his own aspirations: "I want to be the first Japanese-American president of Ford", he mused. Later, he was chided by readers of enthusiast mags, as the term "Boss" went way back to the mid-'60's, and was long out of vogue by the time the car came out.
Sat in the back seat of one exactly like that maybe 3 decades ago. Owner didn't flog it but got on the gas a little. Remember the locker rear end clacking in the corners. I was scared to even move around out of fear of doing even doing the slightest damage to the inside of it considering it took him eight years of asking the former owner if he would sell it to him and finally got it.
The Cleveland heads are simply special. The 69/70 stang is very underrated in many aspects. The power steering can be tuned to be more precise. I have 70 Mach1 with 500hp 351c, 4sp / 4.30 rear, same aero package and shaker….owned it for 47 years since I was 17.
You mentioned C3s…. I also own a C3 1982 Convertible :) yes convertible, with an LS6 454 crate motor, side pipes and 5 speed….it weighs in at 3350 with stock AC…
When the motors and suspensions are tuned to perfection, the 70 Stang and c3 BB represent a space in time that cannot be explain in words…or maybe “Acid Trip” is close. (Not that I ever did that….).
The problem is that the older cars alway need more tuning/adjust even when new… engineering has come a long long way.
They had the same large round ports as the 429/460, and were way too much for this little street engine. Many reviewers were disappointed in the fact they weren't getting the power until Ford's recommended red line.
Part of the reason many of these cars with original engines don't exist anymore is because owners ignored the red line. The engine would pull hard from 5500 to 7000 and above, but then it also eventually threw a rod.
The design of those fire breathing heads are still used on Ford NASCAR engines to this day.
The Mustang has a stock or modified engine?
@@HAL-dm1eh My stang is lightened with a fiberglass hood and other items. Lots of compression and a relatively short duration high lift .600 cam. Lots of gear….and wide ratio top loader. Once over 3500rpm….hold on for dear life…. Even under 3500 it would light up….. it saw 7500rpm countless times :)
@@HAL-dm1eh yes, most of the owners would disconnect the factory installed rev limiter go racing and blow the motor. That’s why so few these have the original engine most have a Ford service replacement short block.
This is probably the best Thing Ford hast build in the Mustang 1 period.. the Handling, compared to the Others, was from a different planet❤
You can actually bolt Cleveland heads onto a Windsor block, using a special intake manifold. Which is one reason why these cars were so special. The Cleveland heads are significantly better, so much so, that the Boss 302 is an engine who's HP rating was closer to Net rating than the Gross rating used on most cars at the time. So, it was one of the "underrated" engines of the time.
The BOSS 302 was "rated" at 290HP (GROSS) to bypass the insurance "surcharge" that was added on high performance machines. The '69 Z-28 (302) was also rated at 290HP!
Damn you. You and Topher released today on TWO cars I adore. I think the 70 Mustang is the best looking of ALL. Im prepared to die on that hill.
I personally, prefer the '69 (dual headlight) version WITHOUT the hood scoop just like the actual Trans-Am version!
I had a Tyco slot car of the race version of this car when I was a little kid in the early 70s. It had the louvers. I loved that thing. I also had a Fox body with the louvers. They banged on the rear window so I took them off.
The same year I was born. Gorgeous car!
what a machine! not a big mustang guy but i have to admit this thing is amazing
I love the steering wheel. Reminds me of my dad's old 77 Ford Sedan that had a similar steering wheel. Also that smell of old vinyl everywhere brings back memories 😀
Mine was Grabber blue, wood grain dash with clock, honeycomb panel on the tailight panel. Blew the original engine up and replaced it with a 66 FE 427 with 2 factory 4 barrel carbs. A buddy of mine still has it.
I had a ‘70 302 Mustang way back in ‘79 when I was 17, not a Boss though. Absolutely loved it.
Very well researched and presented. I'm impressed. Thank you.
I had the Chevrolet equivalent - 1969 Z28. Bought it in 1975, previous owner had installed a set of 5.13's in the rear which was insane. Swapped in a set of 4.11's, drove it like a madman for a few years and traded it for an old Vette.
Dream car! Watching you drive it around my old stomping grounds of MA was pretty sweet as well. Thanks for the ride along.🤟
Lucky guy, beautiful car, it looks like a lot of fun!
It just seems so solid! Like a strong charging ox
My father has a 70 in school bus yellow. Power-shifting this car is where the fun is had. 😊
What a beautiful machine! The POV was a great way to share the experience of this ride along! Everything from the exterior styling, to the color and to the sound is definitely classic Mustang!
I quite enjoy cruising in my '21 Twister Orange GT 6 speed convertible with the fall colored leaves on the country roads like in this video!
I'm a Chevy guy too....and I'd give you a thumbs up! If I had my choice of any Ford from that era it'd be a Boss 302. Although I prefer the look of the 70. I absolutely love the small block screamers from that time. And I think the 70 Z/28 was the Pinnacle of the small block pony cars, the Boss 302 is the best looking mustang ever made. Those 2 would be my top picks but I love them all!
Always the best reviews from Ted! Please more 60s cars!!
Just the engine had to be sold to the public. The BOSS 429 engine was never raced in a Mustang, it was used in the Talladega (Torino fastback) and Mercury Cyclone Spoiler II.
@@betsyduane3461 That is true only for the NASCAR rules. For Trans-Am the whole car had to be homologated hence all the makes racing in the series releasing their own Trans-Am editions. Some of the race cars used were simply showroom bought cars that were modified and used as extra cars. This was the case for one of the Challenger T/A cars raced in the series.
They're gonna take away your insurance if they catch you taking your life into your own hands at that rotary! Gorgeous ride. Nice video.
my dream Mustang thanks to the OG Gone in 60 seconds film.
The Yellow 1973 Mach 1?
Thank you thank you thank you. You really made it feel like I was in the car! Such a cool experience. Such an iconic car
You know your cars! Great video. Congrats
I've always wanted one of these since before I started driving. Closest thing I had was a '72 w/351C. But that thing drove more like a boat. Also had those tall ass gears so it wasn't that fast off the line. Never got around to modding it very much. Once I got my '01, all the attention went to that car!
Great car! Mustangs in general are my favourite muscle cars!
Always wondered about that Boss naming story. In the 1960's a family moved in next door from Los Angeles. The kid kept using the word Boss for something he liked and thought was cool or neat. He said everybody said it back at home. In a year or so everybody used it in my Nor-Cal city too
This is amazing tedward
Awesome owner to let you test her out! Beautiful Boss 302 Great content.
the click of the door handle reminds me of being a kid, my dad had one of these, I can still smell the inside of that car.
Nice, Tom. My brother had a ‘70 Boss 302 in Grabber Blue back in the 70’s. First time I felt my neck snap back in a car.
Reality check: A stock BOSS 302 could barely break 15sec in the quarter. It needed "help" with some add-ons! My '20 Blazer V6 can do the same in the 1/4 mile, with 220ci AND an AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION! I guess that's progress!!!!
Love the backseat view
I’m glad! I’m playing around more
I want to drive a Mustang like this once in my life….this is sweet 😎
A '69 Boss 429 is definitely the coolest muscle car in my opinion, and this is it's younger sibling.
Excellent ! Don 't ask for more. If telegraphs the power, sweet small blocks are awesome. Thank you for the channel
Good video. I had a 1970 Boss 302 in the '70s. And I totally agree about the steering being too light. In fact, if I was ever going to do any hard driving, I would take a power steering hose off so that the steering did have a better feel. Good video brought back good memories
I owned a 1970 cobra jet 429 Torino and it was allot of fun at the drag strip. I’m an old fart so the car was new when I had it and I eventually traded it for a 1970 Judge GTO convertible that was three years old. That car no longer exists but I had a blast . I still own a 77 Trans Am locked in my garage that I built for drag racing before my back went bad after 45 years of working as a mechanic.
A beautiful drive on a beautiful day in a beautiful car. Fantastic!
One of my friends has a 1970 Boss 302 in white and 70 Boss 429 in blue. The Boss 429 is my favorite
MMmmmmm....that Top Loader first gear sound never gets old. Great video :)
I have a 2013 yellow Laguna Seca Boss 302 would love to have a 1969 or 70 to complement that car. Love the car and video.😊