Whats going on in the HGV | Trucking industy? 🚚
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- Опубликовано: 26 май 2023
- Is there really a demand for HGV drivers, or is it all a big hoax?
Uncover the alarming reality of the severe truck driver shortage in the UK with this gripping video. Journey with us as we delve into the root causes of this crisis, including aging workforce, low industry appeal, and stringent regulations. Through interviews with industry leaders and affected truckers, witness the far-reaching impact on businesses, delivery delays, and rising consumer prices. Brace yourself for an insightful exploration of the challenges faced and the urgent need for action to address this critical issue in the UK's transportation sector.
here are my thoughts on whats going on in the industry and what can we do about it?
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As a transport company owner, I can categorically tell you, there is no shortage of drivers. If anything, there are too many. The industry has been flooded by newbies.
Don’t believe the media.
As someone who’s looking to become a HGV driver do you think it’s worth doing or is it too late?
@marktucker208 As a Hgv driver with 15 yrs experience, I would say you would have to be brain dead to now do your hgv licence .
@@marktucker208I start my lessons on Monday …. Wish I never came to this video lol
@@billycrawford4453 I messed up. Paid 2300 for training. Received poor training imo in a crap vehicle which led me to fail 2 tests.
I'm now throwing good money after bad trying to get something to show for my investment.
More training with a different instructor (who is good) and more costs for another test.
Paid 600 for additional training which instructor said I didn't really need because I was up to standard. I still think I got robbed in second test but that's a different story.
Costs about 300 each time you fail for another test.
In a car test it will cost you about 100 per test so you can afford to keep taking tests and wing it.
I regret doing it and if I don't pass by the time my theory runs out in a few months I'm going to put it down to experience and pretend I had a gambling habit that I've recovered from.
THANCKS for telling truth being honest . AGE 59 , 33yyrs HGV/LGV , exp bristol area , U hit nail on head last 2 yrs . PLUS RATE , CUTTING by big corporates & 2023 slowdown in econmy BIG retailers cutting back /// closing. IE boots chemist DHL contract , NOW wilko stores . NAME few .
No HGV driver shortage.... we're all sat in RDCs waiting to be tipped 😂
Ye, know that feeling all to well.
The answer is simple. There is no driver shortage!!
I can tell you there is no shortage in my area West Midlands.
If you look on all the major job sites 90% of the jobs are agency & most of these have there books crammed with drivers.
I know why people are leaving it’s actually a rubbish job to do.
I see HGV class one jobs advertised for as little as £11.00 an hour isn’t minimum wage £10.43 now , most warehouse jobs with no experience or qualifications pay over £11.00 an hour.
The main reasons as I see it is money & time & benifits
1. Money as of today there are 6 jobs on one of these jobs sites for trampers eg nights out all week , so 4 to 5 of nights or days sleeping in the truck away from home & your family. Either stopping in lay-bys with no wash or toilet facilities or on a noisy motorway services with dirty toilets & showers with very expensive & rubbish food.
And for this privilege the rates of pay range from £12.50 per hour to £13.50 per house plus a average of £20.00 to £25.00 for each night out. So for spending the whole week away from your family , friends & your home you earn an extra £80.00 to £100.00 a week.
This is a pittance for spending all those nights away from home sleeping in a truck.
Then there’s your working hours , you don’t really have any control of them , you start time everyday is decided by what you need legally , it can vary everyday & so can your finish time.
Also your daily hours can vary depending on your delivery’s & collections it’s out of your control. You can work anything from just 8 hours to 15 hours & none of it is your choice.
So for just £12.50 an hour you get to lose any life in the week. The only way you make decent money is if you do 60 plus hours a week.
How many jobs out there were your start times change everyday ?
How many jobs out there also give you no choice if you do 8 hours or 15 hours in that day ? It’s not like you can just pull up on 12 hours & say your going home.
Then there are the conditions
Truck services food & facilities are rubbish & expensive , a coffee will cost you £3.00 plus & a stale sandwich will cost you £5.00.
Trucks driver are at a very high risk of heart attacks , strokes & bad backs from all the driving , shifts that they work takes years off your life & then there the stress of driving for 4 hour somewhere without stopping because you could miss the window time & your load would get rejected.
It’s not all about money , but £12.50 an hour for the privilege of varying someone’s start times & finish times is a disgrace.
Truckers have a high rate of divorce too all because of no home life.
You can’t make plans or appointments as most jobs don’t tell you what you are doing the next day to you finish your shift the that day.
Everybody thinks driving a Hgv is easy.
But I tell you it’s not wait till you get given a vague address or they close the motor way because of an accident & you need to find away around & you have a 16” 4 trailer on the back.
Or you get to a deliver place & you could t swing a cat round in there.
It’s not easy yes you can only drive up to 4h 30mins in one stretch but that tacho only records those mins when your moving I regularly drive for 4 hour without stopping & that journey has actually taken me 5 plus hours without a stop. Then you have just a 45min break & you have the same drive back.
I regularly drive between 40 to 45 hours a week in the truck & working 50 to 60 hour weeks , plus another nearly 10 hours driving to & from work in my car week in week out for the last 20 years plus.
Truck drivers need a massive pay rise & better work conditions plus better benifits eg proper sick pay & a decent pension , not this 3% most company’s put in.
You have no work life balance being a truck driver & you should be paid properly & treated properly for this
Yeah alot of what you said i agree but regardless it's A job i love.
It’s not a rubbish job to do if drivers are paid and treated properly. Also these these stupid cpc’s should be permanently cancelled. There will come a day they’ll be no drivers and then the panic will set in
You summed it all here, I think I'm on process of getting my c+e license according to this I'm considering driving town stagecoach bus at least I get to sleep on my bed and do truck driving agency or weekends
TRUTH WELL TOLD
No shortage of drivers being paid around £10-12/hr less breaks and no overtime! Hence, the insurance claims are through the roof.
The government need to take on the first years insurance for new drivers to get the experience. No point training new drivers if companies won’t touch till they have 1 year experience.
Yeah i agree with this 💯
You mean 2 years experience .... its the main problem that you cannot get the experience
Exactly. The government need to subsidise the insurance firms so that we can do away with this "no class 1 job unless you've got 2 years of experience driving class 1s" malarkey
I recently passed. Went to any agency. They said the announcement that there is an hgv shortage came too early. Now everyone has passed their hgv test, and now the market is flooded. They would not even consider placing me on there book's for potential hgv jobs.
Yeah it's all a bit of a mess isn't it!
As a new driver with 4 months on containers I think the main problem is some days are very long and draining and employers making it hard for new passes and making the working days harder then they need to be
ROUTE PLANNERS TAKE PISS . Route planner should have least 2 yrs hgv driving exp B4 becoming & planner thats not real world how it works lol . OFTEN YOUNG 18-30 never driven lorry . BUT have IT/ PC qualifications LOL.
it would be nice if they knew what We have to go through or a daily Basis in Real time
It's because wages haven't kept pace with inflation. Eddie Stobart is paying £11.50 an hour. That's Aldi shelf stacker wages.
as a retired lorry driver the main problem is long hrs and low basic wage insurers are a problem won't insure under 25s or want rediculess premiums and thhat comes from a haulage boss
I don’t meant to be rude so please forgive me but im 19 just getting into trucking. My minimum wage is £7.49 and companies I’ve spoke to have offered £12-£18 an hour, obviously the more realistic figure being £12. That’s still not minimum wage? Minimum wage is £10.42, I know it’s still “low” compared to some other jobs but most truck drivers earn between £30,000 and £40,000 so it’s not really a low wage. A low wage would equal £24,000
@@SirCodezyy the problem young drivers have is also morgages because the basic is so low you won't be accepted because over time isn't taken into consideration as they say it's not guaranteed
@@petew5289 What’s that got to do with trucking pal? The job pays well compared to other jobs… Also the insurance is a huge issue not the pay, they need to take on younger people to get them into trucking. Most people won’t wait until 25 and will just give up on HGV.
@@SirCodezyythere comes a time when drivers need to buy a house if they want too and on drivers basic wage they won't get one lots of drivers where i worked were refused for this reason I agree with over time the pays not bad
I turned 60 last year, I have been a barber for 44 years. I’m looking forward to train as a driver, to have my own space listen to the radio , podcasts and audio books without interruption. To get to see this country I have lived for so long and barley seen 5% of it.the job is what you make it. Great informative videos. 👍🏻
Thats brilliant, i hope you get it sorted and on the road soon mate. Glad the video helped!
There is no shortage of drivers just a shortage of drivers wanting to work for crap wages and conditions conditions
Amen!
AND being treated like a POS
Firstly awesome video. Appreciate the honesty 👍🏻. I live in Cornwall and qualified two weeks ago. Started applying here and there so fingers crossed.
Thanks mate, best of luck with it!
8 years of experience taught me one thing, go with the agencies accept anything you can until you have 6 months experience, tell them you want to do ad hoc.... also to get your confidence up do night shifts as the roads a quite and diversions will give you loads of experience. It is hard to get that first job but keep trying
Thank you for your video and your explanation regarding the job.
Very helpful for deciding what to do in the futur ! 👍
Keep going on with this quality and honesty
Cheers mate appreciate it 👍
5:00 putting people straight into class 1, IMO is not the most dangerous part of the new rules. It is the fact that an 18 year old can now get a class 1 licence. Years ago the only way anyone under 21 could get a HGV licence was a class 2 that only travelled 50 miles from the depot, usually something like dray wagons, delivering beer.
You need road experience to drive HGV's (time spent behind the wheel).
Whilst I agree, you won't find many 18yr olds going for it unless they come from a driving background, I.e dad's a trucker etc, and they've been keen to get on the road and absorbing a lot. Still risky tho and I see where you're coming from. I imagine examiners are harsher on younger applicants too.
@@fasttrackblastback8286 Thank you for your comment. You do make a good points regarding the fact 18 year old’s would be much more committed to wanting to be HGV drivers and hopefully more professional in their approach to driving in general.
Thanks. Such a valuable and honest opinion especially about having class 2 experience before jumping into class 1. I have heard the same from many wise drivers.
I don't think there is a shortage as such, as a recently passed class 1 driver, every job i've looked at requires ex amount of experience, this is a massive road block in the system, its all good and well the government put people through their licence only to be met with this experience issue. It needs addressing.
I agree, this is has been a problem for over 40 years in the HGV industry. There used to be companies that would take you on and train you and give you a start, but after the 80's that became less and less in every manual industries, companies were no longer willing to train people, only looking for qualified experienced people.
Best decision I've ever made getting my HGV License. Don't understand all the complaints here. I did Car straight to Class 1. Applied like crazy and within 3 months had about 6-7 offers for assessments in total, including one class 1 role at Tesco's unfortunantly I fluffed the reversing part LOL and didn't get it. Now got a nice Class 2 job mainly driving 7.5 ton being paid class 2 rate working 4 days a week on 40k basic pay. I basically doubled my earnings from my previous job. Other than the ocassional long hours day due to shitty London traffic, my job is piss easy. If you thinking of doing HGV don't listen to all these complaining dicks in the comments just jump in and work for a good company with loads of benefits. Good video BTW
Also Yes many companies do not take new drivers, But I said fuck it, let me send 20 applications a day and it worked out. You eventually get one calling you back for an assessment.
Thats brilliant mate, im glad it's working out for you and thanks for the feedback 👍
What company are you working for???
How are you getting on with it now?
@@truckitprayle hello mate, I’ve gone back on the tools for a while “till after Christmas” problem being, can’t find something willing to pay what I need to pay all my bills and that’s close enough without having to spend a butt load on petrol.
The mortgage rates are coming down finally.
I’ve got my crane license, which is what I miss about the job, so after Christmas probably just get on to an agency and go from there!!
Hope all’s going well for you 👍🏻
@@Niktriv78901 I work for Hovis, delivering bread to mostly local stores memorised my route. Can now finish ,routhly 8-10 hours. Paid entire shift 12 hours
Theres no shortage at all
Flood the market, lower the wages.
Just gonna comment this, the only shortage is to Keep prices/ wages down
Since I upgraded my license with CE in February only now I have been offered a chance.Over 3 years busses and coaches,nearly 2 years class 2.
I did my class one (C+E) straight from a car at 21 in 1990. Was working for a company who would pay for the old class 3 rigid,not hpy with that,paid for a class one C+E . Still doing it on bulk tipper and low loader work,for a family firm.. Still enjoy going to work after33 years,money could be better,but once the job gets into your blood....you love it!
Waw...you're lucky mate...now depends on the money as well in my case...if are on the lower bracket, then no thanks...even if jobs easy...
60000 short! Only 7,300 on indeed and 50% of them are agency work
My company gave us all a pay rise most off us pulled 45-48grand , now they are making redundancy and say its cheaper to get sub contractors in, than pay us
Wow thats pretty savage, don't see how they can get away with half the stuff they do these days!
I passed my class 1 2 weeks ago and no one will touch me with no experience so I turned to agency work which has work for me
O have found the same problem even tho I am a ex bus and coach driver so used to LV..no one is touching my application, I send out about 40 a week so am thinking of going back to the coaches. 3000 I oayed for my class 1 and 2 and no one will touch me.
That's what i did back in 2004 went on the agency to get experience driving all different types of vehicals done it for 10years before taking a full time job worked ok for me
@Trevor Gilbert thanks bud I hope I don't need to be on agency that long I want to aim for my ADR so I can transport fuel as my end job I want to do
Passed 3b last Wednesday got mod 4 Tuesday. Did novice to class one but have plenty experience Luton multi drop etc so hoping that helps with the class 2 experience gap. Excited to get started. Thanks for your content!
Appreciate it mate, best of luck hope you find something soon!
Work for tescos for 15ph driving a van
Or driving a hgv for 12ph
We need to strike for better conditions and pay
Tesco don’t pay 15 quid an hour 😂
@baggings171 funny that because my m8 works for them and gets £14.75 pH .I guess you done a quick Google search and came up with the answer you wanted to find 😉
@@supersprinter1564 I worked for Sainsburys as a delivery driver and they where paying the most and I was on 12:85 ph which I think has gone up now to 13ph and sainsburys always paid the most out of the big supermarkets… oh actually just looked it up… tescos pays 12.85 ph lad… so I think your mate having you on
@@baggings171trye, tesco offered me £11
@@Luki-jz6gm what part of England you from ?… I think we get more here in London
Thank you for the video buddy! I just passed my C+E test and now I'm waiting for all the cards to get home!
I know it's difficult to get a job as a new driver, but they are out there🤞. I've been working for Amazon for long time and now I have friends who work for Amazon Freight Partner and probably I'll start with them to get experience as is easy job. Regarding if I will enjoy it or like to work in this industry, I don't know, but sure it will be an amazing experience and challenges.
Drive safe buddy and keep doing this videos as are very useful.
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As you have experience in multi drop and road experience, I think that will give you a head start when it comes to HGV work. Good Luck.
@@benjones4365 It doesn't really. I have it too and as soon as you're lucky to be offered an assessment you will get exposed on reversing and this will basically cut the further conversation. It did happen to me already (class1). It has been a couple of months since I have passed. I am lucky not to have a terrible job so I am not desperate to take any crap job only to regret it.
Yh it seems baffling that we’ve supposedly got this massive shortage but when you check the job listings for some of the big firms theres nothing available 🤷🏻♂️
Great video, I’ll stick my 2p in the pot :- im in Essex too - can’t get a shot for love nor money, same reasons all the time, not enough experience, insurance won’t touch us with less than two years exp, more qualified driver got the position etc etc etc. im 37 have b+e al the way through to c+e took separate tests for all of them have full ADR and been on the road nearly 20 years with a clean licence that’s only ever had 3 point (in my second year of driving) and one (non fault accident) driven plenty in Europe so would say I’m a well rounded experienced driver. Now take a 26 year old that’s sat on a class one licence for two years and been driving at most 9 years….they’re straight above me in the queue……makes no sense at all in my mind (maybe I’m wrong) I’ve also noticed the huge number of applicants against each job, fully believe it’s drivers taking sideways moves for better money (no issues with that it makes financial sense) and companies not investing in the future of the industry, they want the experience and the dock acces cards but don’t want to give anyone the experience or get them the cards. I took rhides exam and passed only to find out you can’t get the card without a load 😂😂 the industry is a shambles
Personally its the pay for me, I do not mind the long hours and work life balance but the pay for these 10/12 hour days is shocking for most places. I could make more sitting at home claiming off the government...
Yeah it is a bit of a joke.
It’s supply and demand, if there is such a short fall then employers would up the wages. I drive an HGV and I’m on £31500 a year which is ok but train drivers who don’t even have a steering wheel get £52000 and go on strike for more.
Yeah this is0 very true mate
@@truckitprayle I am fortunate that I get an army pension, I did over 24 years and I have been at this place 7 years, I only stay here because it’s a doddle and I live 1/2 a mile away so it works for me. I just really hate people that go on strike, if they don’t like what ever it is at work then get a different job or get re-educated, all that going on strike does is piss off the people like lorry drivers who are still working.
Think u need good A level etc to be a train driver.
Truck driving there's no A levels, degree , or Gcse' s needed. just a pass on the test...
@@andyg817 what A level would you need ? Geography? Or wood work, I very much doubt you need an A level you just need to have a family member to get you through the door.
@@andyg817my mate Dean is a train driver. No qualifications. He's an ex bus driver.
There is no shortage here , I've seen pay rates at £11.69 for class one night work for a well known parcel company, pay rates have dropped through the floor since COVID, I still work because I enjoy it and do want I want now because I'm mortgage free etc and can earn as much part time on class two .
One thing that is not talked about ....... let's say this country gets 100k drivers tomorrow. And let's say just 1/4 of them tramp out . Where are they going to park . Parking in this country gets worse . Truck stops are closing left right and centre , examples, Lockerbie, etc
Yeah exactly that mate, it's a joke!
The main piece of advice I'd give is, even if you're not using your HGV entitlement, don't get behind on your CPC. Just do your one module a year and keep things up to date, it's not that much of a hassle. What is a hassle is having to do 5 modules before you can apply for a job in the industry. I speak from bitter experience!
Yeah i had to do my last one not so long ago had to use holiday because i forgot it was running out lol
Had PCV licence for years then paid out and did class 2 then class 1 last March . Had 1 agency shift at Tesco snodland since. Yes I have a full time job on the railway and initially only want ADHOC shifts to try driving as a potential career change. It’s been a disaster 80 applications knocking on doors and never hearing anything. Given up now and plan a ceremonial cutting up of my CPC tacho cards very soon 😂
Yeah that doesn't sound like fun at all mate 😕
Gutted mate. All I wanted to do is drive class 1 supermarket work till I retire . Watched so much you tube on great content channels like yours and was inspired . But reality was different 😂
Car to CE dangerous lol, what you think they used to do before you had to do C before CE, go on have a guess 😂
Good video - thank you. Cost of getting a licence including CPC is a real barrier to entry.
Ho down the bootcamp route
Depending on where you are the main issue now is a work shortage. The agency I work for told me last week a recent advert he placed normally gets about 5-8 applicants ( its a kitchen delivery company so heavy multi drop work but pays well ) . this time he had 55 applications in one day, Not all new drivers . He's saying it's not really picked up after the winter lull .
I saw an advert on indeed paying £11.50 overtime rate . More drivers than work equals employers can go back to poor rates again sadly.
i paused this video and typed into dr google class 1 drivers in the carlisle area, and 1 of the jobs that came up was for a uk/eu driver @ £12:50 per hr wtf ??, and jenkinsons are screaming out for class 1 trampers for there walking floors no hourly rate state except"equivilant to £50k" bit like the now gone stobart cowboys wage structure pmsl, yet there agencies class 1 night min £16 per hr upto £30 hr on bank holidays or £22-24 hr ??
Just passed my theory and cpc module 2 and currently waiting to do class 2 training. Think I’m Northern Ireland at the moment it can be hard to get a job, everywhere looking a year or 2 experience driving. Going to go through a freight company for training in the hope I can get employed through them.
Sounds like a good idea mate 👍
Trying to get into the industry and finding it hard. Couldn’t find a funded course, so I did my 7.5t initially to get a foot in the door
Hi dillon if your on universal credits or Job seekers for at least 6 months they will fund you through something called skills for life they pay for 16 weeks training I had all my medical and training and all exams theory,hazard perception CPC reversing test and driving test over 4 grand I pass first go hope this helps
I came off the wagons and now work from home 5 days a week (usually have to go to a site once a week which is one night away from home, no major drama). I have no intention of going back on the trucks, but I do keep on top of my medicals/CPC "just in case". Best thing about what I do now - I see my 2 year old son virtuallly every day and I would not trade that for anything
You went for transport manager?and did TM Cpc course?i was thinking to do that as well as class 1 now is shit,and yeah,not much work,the rates are dropping...
@@TiberiusWorld No mate I left the industry altogether but I was looking at the TM role before I decided to get out.
@Andy Williams im in that "process" now,on leaving after 11 years of class 1...thanks for replying
@@TiberiusWorld i only did a couple of years on class 1 mate it was literally killing my relationship and had zero work life balance. The money was good, but it just wasnt worth the hassle for me. Keep us updated on the TM CPC though as there will probably b a few people interested in hearing about how hard it is/job oppurtunities etc.
I saw the news in June 21 - said to myself " I have a Class 2 licence, though I haven't used it ion a few years, think I'll help out." It took 5 months for the DVLA to sort my licence renewal, as I had to get a Digi Card and CPD card...Did a few agency shifts then got my Class 1 in Feb 22 and havent driven a truck since...As others have said - lots of applicants for every job - where's the shortage?
Yes you can go straight to Class 1 from a car so that helps like you say, another thing you didn't mention is the Government bootcamps of which I am doing one in order to become a Class 2 driver (my personal choice to start here then move up in future) although after reading the comments/lack of work/crap money I may stop before i start!!
I wouldn't be too put off it's not all doom and gloom, i personally love the job its self it took me a while to fund a job that suits my life. But now im there its pretty good.
If its free keep on at it, you can always find a job later
Would you recommend asking firms direct or continue trying to find work via indeed, glassdoor etc
Personally i prefer going direct but its not always possible with the bigger firms. Just do both if you can mate.
No shortage, warehouse to wheels has flooded the hgv market right down and job seekers are getting the training for free
Loads of work but not for new drivers
Spot on
I start my lessons on Monday and I’m going struggle get work 🤦♂️
@billycrawford4453 go for class 2 work first.. then when experience 3 months + apply for class 1 thats what I did..
I did my training.. B to C+E... I did the training and still have my main employment which luckily I can retire from at 52.. anyways I've had no issues through agencies getting work. Mostly working for amazon and herms just to keep my skills up until I retire then I'll look for a 3-4 day weeks HGV job, luckily a buddy is transport manager for Royal mail.
The biggest problem with the industry is there not a lack drivers there some 50000 new drivers that passed there test the same time during lockdown last year when I did my license DVLA wouldn't process the licenses, due to lockdown so there is a huge backlog of applications still been done some places have to wait 6 months for a test. when, I did my CPC I had to wait 3 months just to do module 2 case studies and 2 months to do module 4 , due to them been to busy and the worst part, of it not many company will not take on new drivers due to insurance requirements of 1 year minimum on licence. The only work u can get is on the agency and they are very quiet at the moment so it's a lot of headache when u first start driving
No wonder I can't find my first HGV, 19 months keeps telling me no experience, high insurance, too dangerous. Tried applying for new drivers, but it was not easy to get into the job. HGV has rip off many young people like me.
I hear you fella just get some experience behind you and it can only get better 👍
Same one here mate. I've tried class 2 for 4 months before I went for class 1 training. There are lots of things to learn doing class 2 jobs like multi drops or store delivery.
Spent more money for C and CE training? Yes. Do I regret? No.
25 years plus HGV driver and 13 of them were class 1.
Nothing will change in the industry and I know this because everything has got worse in the industry. Nothing will ever change.
Yeah i do fear ypu may be right mu friend!
From my experience I personally have found it very hard to find work as a new pass and I’m 22 years old. I have my class 1 license but have been trying to find work driving class 2 to try and get some experience, I have had plenty of rejections even from jobs advertising for new passers to apply. I now have a few interviews lined up but I don’t think there’s a shortage. There is a lack of new drivers being offered work in my own personal experience.
Yeah this seems to be the case for most people, and i find it very difficult to not get angry about it as i like to see people getting into the industry and yet no one seems to be telling the truth? Madness!!
Your age won't help. Try and get a job even doing 5t 7.5t the pay won't be great but it's experience. The last company I worked for was paying 5t and 7.5t drivers £13ph
Your age is a huge factor unfortunately. You have to be at least 25 to even stand a chance.
I recently retired from a 30yrs career and called in at a local haulier to enquire about jobs and just to have a crack. He was great and couldn't have been more helpful. However, £12 per hour to drive a 40 tonne artic and all the responsibility that entails!!!!!! Couldn't believe that. I can get more stacking shelves in Aldi. Crazy.
Yeah some companies really take the p!ss with what they pay.
Been looking for C1 work nothing at all
I tried getting class 2 work as well,no one eill touch me as i dont have experience. It did both tests c and c+ e but no one eill even let me do class 2 work.even tjo i have driven huge coachescand double decker buses..
Try agency work if you haven't already for the experience
53, Came back after 19 yrs. Easy money. Full time, but would like 3 day week
The problem is the Insurance premiums
Not anymore...12 months later offers of £12/h for class 1 on £11,44 minimum wage...
The more people accept the jobs that pay bad, the more employers will offer lower rates. The issue is that since 2020 and easing up the process of getting class 1 there is a lot more new drivers out there, many of which are desparete for work which pushes them to accept lower rates to keep the money flowing. On the contrary, it is difficult to get a job as a new pass since many employers just prefer to wait for skilled driver to apply which again pushes new drivers to accept much lower rates for the jobs that should pay more. Basically, things will change for better only when drivers will start refusing deliveries that don't pay well. But that's easier said than done when we think about large group of people.
Finally, the last thing is loyalty, people seem to be too much obsessed to stay with one company for too long so their wages don't go up as fast as they could driving overall wages down. But again, people just tend to feel confy with what they got and don't want to try something else or look around for something better. Just the human nature that is being exploited by the employers.
Fair points!
Passed my class one 3 months ago no one will touch me seem to think it was a waste of 2 grand
im only 46 and quit driving to much shit im in homebase diy store great no hassle at all never drive again
Lets face it, none of us would encourage our children, nephews/nieces etc to become lorry drivers. Our towns city's are not geared up for hgv's pressure to meet delivery deadlines is immense and standards of driving on UK roads is steadily declining. Add to that poor facilities for long distance drivers. We need them but we dont give them the respect they deserve.
I passed my class one back in 1992, could never get a class one job due to no experience, so just did class 2 rigids to gain my experience, but i remember an old trucker telling me in 92 and he was in his late 50's then, he said then in another 20 or so years this country will be fuxxed as no one will want to be a truck driver due to wages and all the other stuff and there wil be a massive short fall as the old ones will retire and there is no incentive to become a truck driver, he was right... ive been driving class 2 on and off since then as well as buses, just going back now as im forced to, but the wages are so bad for what we do, im in barnsley and your lucky to get payed 12 pound an hour, people working stacking shelves in lidl get payed more,
Only 99,999 drivers now, yesterday (after a nearly 2 year process) I passed my HGV class 1 😁
Nice. See you in traffic.
Oh you poor poor fool, what have you done?
Only joking. Well done, welcome to the track!
Good video, one thig I have noticed about searching for HGV work and people talking about this massive shortage of Drivers. When you looking at Job site it say for example they have 1500 jobs available, how is it that there are more drivers out there looking for a job yet there are still so many jobs available.
I have been looking for a class one job for more than a year, fair enough Im in the Philippines at the moment still trying to get the money to return to the UK and get my licence back. I think the biggest issue is this CPC crap making it harder for people to get work I have 15 plus years class 1 work but never needed CPC before
Yeah i think the cpc puts alot of people off especially people that have been in the game along time
This is how the industry keeps the wages down stupid.
They say there’s a shortage, we then over supply the sector and then “ we” battle it out to keep our job fearing there’s now 4 drivers waiting in the shadows to take our job if we complain we want more money…
Exactly mate thats pretty much what i said 😅
I think the issue is the cost of insurance for companies to hire new drivers, especially younger ones, then what's the turn over rate the first 2 years ? I'm betting it is insane like 50-80% then what's the % of the ones that stay in the industry but leave the company they were trained at for another after a few months of experience, this all as a cost/risk for the company and my guess is when you start you'll get a better chance of getting hired at a big company because of numbers they can have better/different insurance deals maybe and the risk is lower because it doesn't have a huge impact on the company, it's not going to go bankrupt if you mess up.
So if it's hard to get a first job and then a high % of new drivers quit before they get to that 2 year exp. mark equals shortage of experienced drivers means you can have a lot of drivers but still talk about a shortage because they can't be hired by most companies and as older drivers also stop working..
Yeah seems like a bit of a bad cycle doesnt it, hopefully they sort something out as i do feel for these new drivers struggling to find work!
Insurance companies wont Insurance new drivers if licence not held for 2 years or a company is willing to pay high Insurance for you.. you will be very lucky
Incorrect. I passed my Class 1 in September '22, started driving the following October. £20.72 an hour, 8 hour days, PM shifts, usually home to bed by 1am. Very rarely go over 10 hours.
Extra £108 for working weekends. I work Thursday to Monday. Just under £50K.
Anything is possible.
I passed In November from class 2 to class 1 i got a bootcamp to fund my license im now out in a class 1 done my first week last week tramping back out tomorrow i love it
Nice one mate, keep safe buddy.
@@truckitprayle always
Worst job ever done it 35 year. Life is for having good memories off good times. No life with family. Destroys family. Rubbish money for hrs you do. No one speaks English. No respect. Ruins you health. Its a sad life in the end 😞
Yeah it can take its toll.
Yeah the unwillingness of employers to employ shows the reality.
I am fortunate, I have a class 1 driving assessment tomorrow with the client of an agency nearby me who are the only company in the area taking on new drivers. Will be an actual decent hourly rate as well, £19.40 per hour. I'm so eager to not fuck it up, and start getting experience. Frankly I'd work for half that.
I don't have or plan to have kids ever. My gf and I are somewhat used to not seeing eachother because we've been together for 7 years and (depressingly) still live with our parents quite far apart. The job seems a good fit for me, I love driving, no social/family commitments, etc.
About location, yeah I'm struggling round here, specially as I'm unemployed atm and don't have a car so my transport is limited. I'm in North Hertfordshire.
Driving assessment went well today, I start training tomorrow at 6am :D
The looks like London Gateway In stanford le Hope. I was there today.
Yeah thats right 👍
@@truckitprayle I stumbled upon your video while researching opportunities in the C1 job field, possibly considering a transition into container hauling. Currently, I'm involved in curtainside trucking, but I recently visited COSCO DP world Shipping on London gateway today went into the cafe and noticed that some drivers in that area seem to be earning a more competitive wage. Like at ATL logistics and Seven Logistics. around 760 a week
Right now In my current role, im at a small company based in basildon I'm only making $560 per week, clocking a average of 56 hours and they dont pay any overtime despite putting in long hours, typically averaging 11-13 hours a day. My rate works out less than 11per hour.
I've been contemplating the idea of getting into tramping, and although my partner has reservations, she believes I might find it appealing. The main reason for my consideration is the persistent issue of low wages that I've been experiencing. With only 8month on the belt in C1
What companies would you reccomend in Essex/Basildon/South East
Starting the training soon... work after or not itl be on me license. More options.defo worth it
Class 2 £6.30 ph, hgv 1 bus £3.68 pH.... Shite wages.... Got more working in a factory... So glad I stopped driving 😊
Yeah it's understandable
Considering that even under the old EU rules which were in place from 1997 to 2021, you could technically still do your Class 1 on the very same day as you'd just passed your Class 2. It was therefore nothing other than an EU endorsed money spinner for the training industry. I went straight from a car to Class 1 in 1991 and for the past 12 years, I've been a road train driver down under. The best piece of advice I would give to any potential new HGV driver is to simply learn to reverse a trailer (caravan ect) on the back of your car. If you can do that without any issues then you are far better placed to pass a Class 1 test than somebody who has spent a couple of years driving a Class 2 HGV. A car and trailer combination is simply a smaller version of a truck and trailer combination.
Fair play, where abouts in Australia did you live?
WA. Started off on the east coast in NSW and then moved 4000km over to WA around 5 years ago to join the world's largest number of expat pommes. Just like the UK, there's a huge shortage of truck drivers but no ridiculous driver CPC to contend with and money is pretty good too. UK HGV drivers have to jump through so many hoops to get their licence as well as even more ongoing hoops but aren't paid that well. And believe me, money was shit when I started out over there back in the early 90s and it certainly didn't improve whilst I was there.
@@xj358 i have a friend moving to brisbane soon as a trucker, was thinking down the line about it myself 🤔
@@truckitprayle UK HGV licences are recognised on a temporary basis in some states but you subsequently have to take a test to get an Aussie license. However, getting even an Aussie road train licence (MC) is easier in all States than doing a UK class 1 test. The training company also conduct the test and it's usually just a 1 day course to upgrade from single trailer (HC) to multiple trailers (MC).
theres no real shortage. except for the shitty entry level distribution jobs with minimum wage and tramping jobs. nobody wants to do this sort of work for a slave wage and zero social life to boot. the industry would rather cry out !shortage! than to up the pay and benefits. its the same in europe. now they have trouble finding eastern Europeans to drive as well, since the wages in their home countries are catching up.
Hello mate, I'm a building site telehandler driver on agency. I've been doing it for 8 years. I'm on £31K a year. It's been really good to me. Now, it's gone wobbly. Work is harder to get. Last weekend, I paid £175 for my Class 1 medical & provisional.
What are your thoughts on my suitability to HGV? If nothing else, it's another feather in my cap. We just got a mortgage, & I need a stable job.
There is plenty of work out there the hard part is getting started finding a company that will gain you that experience but once you got a year under your belt you will be sweet!
I live in Leigh on sea, in Essex.
@truckitprayle Thanks mate. I spoke with Silvertons Aggregates; they know me from my forking work. They said they'd consider new people. I'll be forking while learning HGV. My forking licence needs renewing in 2024. You seem like a great guy I'd love to meet.
Truck driving is a lifestyle not just a job so you have to love it to do it but good luck anyway 😊
Coz people that have just passed there test are not given employment unless you have 6-12 months experience, then the industry complains to government,then goverment bring in foriene drivers who work for cheaper. I paid 3000 for my artic lisence and no one will take me on in class 1and 2 what a waste of money doing it..
we all got to old and fed up with the class room bull shite lol. but I am still driving at 58 this year in IRELAND had my 1st 3t tractor on the back with over hang on the sides interesting load on small roads. 🤣🤣🤣
I bet mate haha
Combination of all the problems you listed, u forgot fuel theft btw.
Thanks my boss, if it was true hgv would be paying £30 an hour minimum. Im on government bootcamp training to become hgv but not sure how i will get in unless government get us into jobs
It will be tough for sure, but just keep determined and you will find something mate.
Health and Safety is one reason. I use to go with my dad during school holidays so it was only natural me and my bro became drivers. You cant take kids anymore so they dont grow up with it, just see their parent away from home and doing long hours.
Another is the price to pass your car license, its paying for that 1st then paying for class 1 or 2, CPC, medicals etc. The cost just to get this job is crazy. Whereas kids can nowadays can get an apprenticeship and get paid to learn their career. You'll only get into this if you really want too. But i dont believe there is a shortage, we just need more because we are using more products that need delivering.
Yeah it's all changed now 😔
I think most of jobs will drop like flies! The pay is shit,the work time is 80% to work and 20% time home ! And for what..hah
TBH whatever the true figure is it will always be a struggle for a working class employee who's on minimum wage perhaps working in a warehouse to find at least £4k for licenses, medicals & training only to be told when they pass to come back in 2 years when they have experience, the industry needs to look at itself and ask itself if it can see a problem on the horizon then put pressure on the insurance industry to change its attitude. This has to be the first step then work on retaining them once they're on board. Self driving trucks not the answer, will only inflate costs, cheaper to salary a driver who's paid for his/her own licence than fork out for the technology of self driving vehicles. Automated trucks will never contribute to cheaper costs like wind farms have never lowered our energy bills
Yeah some really good valid points, what do you think needs to change to get people motivated to start trucking again.
@@truckitprayle well myself and a few colleagues got this idea when we were driving during the pandemic lockdowns, we were delivering to hospitals and charities pre furlough, so this may seem a bit off the wall but might have legs. We thought it would be a good idea to reintroduce national service but not the military type of service everyone assumes. Basically all students were nationalised to public service for 3 years for non pre graduates and 1 year for higher education students to work in the service sector to gain skills we currently struggle to recruit for. Nursing, Caring, Warehouse and Driving. As a student you choose your path depending on availability, those who wish to follow driving could use the 3 years to gain licenses and experience upto class 1 including ADR and STGO vehicles. Successful completion could also lead to training to become a vehicle mechanics so the young have a pathway to greater salaries at a younger age. It would have to be funded/subsidised through tax as most things are but I don't think the public would mind if they saw the next generation plugging gaps in the current system and those that are poor and cannot afford these licenses to benefit from the service. On a more industry specific note I'd outlaw reduced rest making planners stick to planning 13 hours with 11 hours rest. We need to retain those who agree to do this work and finally quality and cost of our rest areas and services are beyond shocking especially if you want to attract female drivers
That actually sounds like a good idea, but also sounds like a lot to sort out. And our government are not that efficient lol
Is the shortage still on? I think it may be over now buddy.
I passed my hgv when i was 21 iam now 56. I was a passenger in a truck 3 years ago when the bloke driving hit the rear of a fridge trailer. he walked away. i didn't broken leg arm fractured skull and a bleed on the brain. I've loved driving but i cant get in a cab now. i need some help to get over it but i can't get passed this metal barrier.
My god that sounds rough mate, something like that wont be easy to overcome, i guess you just got to way up the want to the risk mate.
Hope you figue it out, best of luck 👍
@@truckitprayle thx
I am a new pass , a month ago, yet all firms want experience even the crap firms, you are wrong about the car to class 1, when i was 21 i was asked to go class 1 by the royal mail, all the drivers that did were all excellent, driving schools are filling peoples minds with utter nonsense about it's dangerous because they have doubled their income by charging people for hgv 2 then again for class 1, it is ALL about money, govt make money by all the tests, the same thing has happened with the B.S ymultiple over complicated tests for motorbikes
I seen a job advertised recently class 1 on nights £12.50 per hour. Ever likely. 😂
What part of the country was that in?
Being a class one new pass is most painful thing. You don't how to reverse properly and no one wants to touch you 😢😢😢
Yeah it's not nice mate, but just keep at it something will come up for you!
No shortage at all there won’t pay the drivers we are on peanuts and have to take work to live I would say avoid and go work for Amazon or get trained in another trade, I’ve had agencies ring now and again been driving nearly 9 years I’m getting out fed up
There is a shortage of people willing to be treated like vermin.
There was a shortage of driver's for year's because Eastern European driver's flooded the market which drove down wage's. Brexit helped that because they left. I was told 3 year's ago polish drivers was going to Russia because the money was the same but only payed 6% tax. Second think is been robbed. I've had my diesel nicked 3 times. Curtains slashed even services, & the CPC which is a waste of time. My experience is my health & battling with the DVLA. Since 2015 I was off for 5 year's. Got my license back in 2020, but they only gave me a 2 year license. Now they want renew it because of my heart, so that's it, not fighting with them anymore & I've walked away.
YES youngsters don't want to do this.
I think there's alot of people with hgv licenses but choose not to do this..
only solution , put the pay up. But the company may go bust....
ps nice Daf.
Here in South Africa I'm doing my license and yet people want experience because if someone new like me gets in an accident they won't be able to claim insurance because of the no experience. And yet they complain about driver shortage 😂
Honestly where do they think these experienced drivers are gona appear from? Lol 😆
@@truckitprayle 🤣Exactly.. You can't get what you don't give
I stopped because of the bullying management and horrendous traffic jams. Mostly the management and low pay!
End of the day the money, wages are totally crap, we as truck drivers know the stress the job can involve, we are meant to be professional drivers but dont get payed a professional wage,, I have to be a trucker as thats all i know and all i can do, but if i was 20 yrs old again there is no way i would do this job for the wages you get payed, yes i love driving trucks, going the places you do etc etc, but being single i would be better off on the dole ,
Plenty of drivers around. Infact too many. It's 100,000 shitty managers is the problem.
A certain red, white and blue supermarket company may be a very good place to work.
£14.70 an hr weekdays, nearly £20 an hr on weekends. Currently in wage negotiations so that base £14.70 will probably be over £16 soon.
Work Fri-Mon, so £ per hr is higher on average with Sat/Sun rates. Plus 3 days off every week, love it.
Very relaxed and can work your contracted 9.25hrs a day if you want to.
45 hours of work even a £20 an hour still not enough money for the job . To make the job worth it.
70 hours working time
55 hours driving
1 taco card for uk
And one for those who like to travel to eu
No experience? Easy, work on the bins for a year