why Mario Wonder is the most important 2D Mario

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    Interview with Takeshi Tezuka:
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    Video with the Yoshi’s back breaking:
    • Elephants Mario crushe...
    Music used:
    Main Menu theme - New Super Mario Bros U
    Overworld theme (and the Elephant version) - Super Mario Bros Wonder
    Wonder: Slime - Super Mario Bros Wonder
    Piranha Plants on Parade - Super Mario Bros Wonder
    Badge Challenge - Super Mario Bros Wonder
    Airship Theme - Super Mario Bros Wonder
    Petal Isles - Super Mario Bros Wonder
    K.K. Crusin’ Remix - Mesmonium

Комментарии • 88

  • @ArmadilloJohn
    @ArmadilloJohn 9 месяцев назад +23

    This might be one of your greatest videos yet, dude. The editing had A LOT of effort put into it and the comedy was amazing.
    Keep it up my guy, you're awesome!

  • @sl1ppey
    @sl1ppey 9 месяцев назад +11

    I will not stand for this Super Mario Land 2 slander that was my first Mario game you SOB.
    Really good video. Still need to pick up Wonder at some point, but for now I’ll just keep watching RUclipsrs tell me why I need to play it.

    • @AlphaFlare
      @AlphaFlare  9 месяцев назад +2

      yes play wonder eventually it's pretty good
      also I will die on the hill of Land 2 being bad

    • @BH-98
      @BH-98 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@AlphaFlareWill you make a video essay of why Mario Land 2 is bad?

    • @AlphaFlare
      @AlphaFlare  9 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe, would need to toss it around a bit before i decide

    • @BH-98
      @BH-98 9 месяцев назад

      @@AlphaFlare fair enough, I just think now that you’ve put out a somewhat controversial opinion on a well liked game I’m just interested to hear you elaborate on it & think it would make an interesting video to watch.

  • @Eckster
    @Eckster 9 месяцев назад +1

    3:06 "There's a grappling vine that's just full of the exaggerated swagger of a black tee-"
    🙈

  • @casvloch6507
    @casvloch6507 9 месяцев назад +7

    I need more of this. It was super nice and fun to watch. Thanks for making my day!

  • @ColinJoesseppiVEVO
    @ColinJoesseppiVEVO 6 месяцев назад

    0:54
    I’m so glad someone finally pointed out the main differences between these two.
    It always annoys me when someone one says “You literally can’t tell which one is which”

  • @time2e636
    @time2e636 9 месяцев назад +4

    You’re literally the first person I’ve seen on the internet to hate Mario Land 2, it’s literally a Top 3 2D Mario behind Wonder and World, can’t really see many negatives to it

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 6 месяцев назад

      Also, Mario Land 2 is also very important - that’s when Wario shows up.

  • @MarioLuigiAndJr.
    @MarioLuigiAndJr. 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love how in the NSMB2 differences it just says "taughts you for being poor" lol.

  • @haydenrosenberg197
    @haydenrosenberg197 9 месяцев назад +4

    Good video, glad youtube randomly recommended this to me, hope to see more like this one

  • @swiftex5488
    @swiftex5488 9 месяцев назад +2

    This is why I never judge the video by the viewcount, amazing video with great editing. keep up the good work

  • @rdmn2001
    @rdmn2001 9 месяцев назад +1

    I clicked on this from my Home page expecting some background noise, but ended up loving your subtle humor. Really good video!! :)

  • @THAPOKEPINBALLER
    @THAPOKEPINBALLER 9 месяцев назад +3

    You are deff gunna blow up sir. Great video.

  • @nicholasstanley5036
    @nicholasstanley5036 9 месяцев назад +3

    The drill is underrated I love the drill best wonder power up

  • @Jay-bi3ye
    @Jay-bi3ye 9 месяцев назад +1

    Really fun video!

  • @Macuque
    @Macuque 9 месяцев назад

    2:40 thats the first time ive ever seen someone make a reference to fansdf movie

  • @alchemistsmashbros4333
    @alchemistsmashbros4333 9 месяцев назад +29

    I am very glad that you put 2D Mario game in the title because I think pretty much everyone agrees that Mario Odyssey, and especially Super Mario 64 are the best Mario games. do you agree ?

    • @AlphaFlare
      @AlphaFlare  9 месяцев назад +15

      thats a tough question
      i haven't played much of 64, but it's obviously important because it paved the way for 3D platformers
      odyssey was a blast the first time i played it, but I haven't found the need to go back to it
      as for which is the best Mario game in general...
      I would have to go with Galaxy or 3D World
      they're both a ton of fun, whether you're playing for only 10 minutes or 3 hours

    • @lasercraft32
      @lasercraft32 9 месяцев назад +8

      I can't believe you didn't include Mario Galaxy on the list.

    • @hypanusamericanus9058
      @hypanusamericanus9058 9 месяцев назад +4

      I disagree. Personally, I think 2D Mario is where the the fun is at, many people I have talked with seem to agree, and the sales certainly agree. The simplicity IMO allows them to be more readily played and understood by the public, their limitation to the 2D plane allows more obstacles to be crammed into the same area, the music feels superior since it always prioritizes being catchy (yes, I do believe the NSMB overworld theme is infinitely better than that overrated Gusty Garden Galaxy, that song just feels too grand and orchestrated to be in a Mario game (though I do like me some classical music)), they are much more conducive to that brilliantly terrible multiplayer experience (thank goodness Nintendo gave me the ability to chuck Mario off a cliff in the New series). Additionally, the combined sales of SM64, SMS, SMG, SMG2, SM3DL, and SM3DW is still about 4 million less than NSMB and NSMBWii combined (57.17 million vs 61.12 million copies sold).
      I haven’t played much Super Mario Odyssey, but, from what I have heard, it seems like most of the gameplay is taken up by hundreds of insignificant tasks. I have 100% ed Super Mario 64, which is a good game, but is far from being perfect. The clunky controls, dated graphics, and occasionally baffling gameplay/bad level design (Wing Mario Over the Rainbow is a terrible level without a doubt) really bring the game down. 3D World was a great change of pace, though, and I would love to return to that game in multiplayer.
      In terms of my favorite Mario game, it would have to be NSMBWii. The multiplayer, visuals, catchy/iconic music, level gimmicks, dynamic camera, cheery atmosphere, etc. are all spot on here, and it is the hardest Mario game I have attempted to 100% (the dreaded 9-7 still sits in the way) but not because the gameplay is confusing. NSMB and Super Mario Maker also come pretty close.

    • @adamk.4583
      @adamk.4583 9 месяцев назад +3

      it said most important, not best

    • @Zaniack0422
      @Zaniack0422 9 месяцев назад

      Do you think Super Mario Bros 2./Super Mario USA is the best one bc of your score of 11?

  • @Xavier95621
    @Xavier95621 9 месяцев назад +2

    You're pretty funny, and I like how your editing is more than basic. Just gotta wonder how you in any context prefer mario land 1 to 2, because mario land 1's controls had me foaming at my mouth lol.

  • @esmooth919
    @esmooth919 9 месяцев назад

    0:09 That is a lava take right there.

  • @flophawk
    @flophawk 9 месяцев назад +2

    banned, will not take this mario land 2 slander
    it gave us WARIO dammit, do you really want a world without the MAN, the _LEGEND?_

    • @AlphaFlare
      @AlphaFlare  9 месяцев назад +2

      I had no idea that was where Wario originated, maybe ill have to rethink my opinion

    • @flophawk
      @flophawk 9 месяцев назад

      good ending 👍

  • @NEESHiMinaj
    @NEESHiMinaj 9 месяцев назад

    not the Super Mario Land 2 slander?!?! great video

  • @Specky_Decky
    @Specky_Decky 9 месяцев назад +1

    aint no way you said Mario Land 2 was worse than Lost Levels AND the original Mario Land

  • @youyououmf8200
    @youyououmf8200 9 месяцев назад +2

    The only problem of mario wonder is it's multiplayer: we should be able to set if the camera follow the leader or everyone 😅

    • @davidthecommenter
      @davidthecommenter 9 месяцев назад +1

      i'm confused as to why the camera doesn't zoom out when players get farther away

    • @youyououmf8200
      @youyououmf8200 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@davidthecommenter it's because some secrets need the camera to don't zoom out

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 9 месяцев назад +5

    This game made me enjoy a 2d Mario game... And I usually find the 2d Mario games extremely boring or tedious.
    And it has PLAYABLE DAISY in a mainline game! That's awesome!

  • @pksprite6401
    @pksprite6401 9 месяцев назад +2

    Good video. While I prefer Super Mario World and New Super Mario Bros Wii, Wonder is truly a triumph.
    Though Super Mario Bros 1 is obviously more important and Super Mario Land 2 is quite excellent.

  • @erm_5557
    @erm_5557 9 месяцев назад

    ok but like 5:41 there is a peach's castle vs bowser in the game bowsers inside story which is close

  • @LittleSansLittletale
    @LittleSansLittletale 9 месяцев назад

    "UHM....ACKCHEWALLY SUPER MARIO BROS ON THE NINTENDO ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM IS THE MOST IMPORTANT 2D GA-"
    (Super Mario Bros Wonder is amazing. I love the little talking flowers! They're like your little buddies on your journey! Not to mention how musically pleasant this is.

  • @jodohe
    @jodohe 9 месяцев назад +2

    Even more important than the one SMB game that startet it all?
    Wow...

    • @AlphaFlare
      @AlphaFlare  9 месяцев назад

      Who needs an origin story?

  • @Murr248
    @Murr248 9 месяцев назад

    I can defintely say that Wonder is to 2D Mario as Odyssey is to 3D. Even when ignoring the gameplay changes, the world feels much more lively thanks to talking flowers and enemies having more reactions through both normal animations and the wonder flower.
    I'd like to point out that even the Elephant Fruit is explained. It's playing off of the idea of elephant watering cans, hence why watering flowers and even said watering cans can be seen in the backgrounds of popplin houses. So It's still jarring but makes sense in hindsight
    As a side note, I'd really like to hear your grievances with Mario Land 2. in comparison to the first game, It was almost like a pocket sized Mario world that could get very expansive for a Gameboy game. Not nearly as expansive as the Wario Land games after it, but still one of the more unique games to come out at the time

  • @Sunsetuniverse77
    @Sunsetuniverse77 9 месяцев назад +2

    The talking flower should get crushed. ,change my mind,

    • @AlphaFlare
      @AlphaFlare  9 месяцев назад

      I will not
      I agree with you

    • @Arkenidae
      @Arkenidae 9 месяцев назад +3

      Disagree, little dude is pretty funny, especially when he falls into the abyss or gets crushed. It adds a bit of cartoon comedy to the game

  • @acetnam
    @acetnam 9 месяцев назад +2

    Man I really like youtube recommending more unknown creators, this video is fantastic and deserving of way more exposure.
    However you turned the talking flower voices off so all your points are automatically invalid, sorry!

  • @leehum
    @leehum 9 месяцев назад +1

    underrated channel alert

  • @benjaminwilson2945
    @benjaminwilson2945 9 месяцев назад +1

    HOT TAKE. I really enjoy wonder, but I prefer the new series.

  • @TheLastFazbear
    @TheLastFazbear 9 месяцев назад +1

    4:26 I don’t mind them they just explaining what’s happening

  • @TheGravityShifter
    @TheGravityShifter 9 месяцев назад +1

    The game isn't perfect ofc, but it's certainly the best 2D Mario we've had in forever. I normally don't care to 100% most Mario games but this is the first since Super Mario World where I actually wanted to 100% it, and like you I was a little underwhelmed that there wasn't more.
    Though I think the game could've had better bosses as it's easily the weakest aspect of the game. Which is funny cuz the Bowser fight we get in this game is one of the best ones ever even though it's easy. What it lacks in bosses though, it does make up for it with the sheer variety we get from the levels. This is definitely a solid stepping stone to an even greater 2D Mario game. Therefore, I agree that this is the most important 2D Mario Game we've gotten. Also, I'm probably in the minority, but I loved the talking flowers, I hope we see more of that in future games.
    Lovin' the content btw, I love the humorous edits you've made. I'm glad the algorithm chose to show you to me.

  • @CaptainAtria
    @CaptainAtria 9 месяцев назад +4

    I want to subscribe because the video was very good UNFORTUNATELY you don't like Mario Land 2 so you are bad and wrong, goodbye

    • @AlphaFlare
      @AlphaFlare  9 месяцев назад

      understandable, have a good day

  • @bakubaku4333
    @bakubaku4333 9 месяцев назад

    good video but that land 2 take is insane

  • @colbyscott8425
    @colbyscott8425 9 месяцев назад +1

    How does this video have 1.6 million views with only like 500 views???

  • @ninten754
    @ninten754 9 месяцев назад +2

    Cool and well made video!
    However I will not accept this Super Mario Land 2 slander

  • @FightStreeting
    @FightStreeting 9 месяцев назад

    This video is goofy and it made me laugh, thanks

  • @aresbarella98
    @aresbarella98 9 месяцев назад

    Wonder is ton of fun but the most important is of course super mario bros… come on

  • @urtiz
    @urtiz 9 месяцев назад +1

    The hell do you have against Mario Land 2?! It's a better game than Mario Land 1.

    • @AlphaFlare
      @AlphaFlare  9 месяцев назад

      I just dont like it
      I played it as a kid and I do not remember the game fondly in the slightest

  • @eviemaybe
    @eviemaybe 9 месяцев назад

    honestly i can see the next 2D mario basically going planet robobot and focusing on a specific aesthetic and a single overarching mechanic, while also polishing and building on all the new elements the previous installment brought to the table

  • @paulgrotebeverborg1119
    @paulgrotebeverborg1119 9 месяцев назад

    What do you have against Mario Land 2?

  • @The-EJ-Factor
    @The-EJ-Factor 9 месяцев назад +3

    Is funny that we complain about the size despite wonder being the longest 2D Mario game by a large margin.

  • @localneo-graphic4647
    @localneo-graphic4647 9 месяцев назад

    This might be a hot take, but I actually think SMB1 is the most important Mario, because it pretty much invented Mario. It also pretty much invented platforms. I personally think that is more important than making 2D Mario relevant for the third time.
    Also while there's such thing as a 'bad Mario', it's Mario Land 1 not 2. Mario Land 2 is dope, and you probably have brain damage if you think otherwise.

  • @benjaminwilson2945
    @benjaminwilson2945 9 месяцев назад

    I want to enjoy super Mario land 2, but the physics and level design feel weird to me.

  • @dortuff
    @dortuff 9 месяцев назад

    I'm gona scubscribit to this youtube, Fun video, Good Video. I Like.

  • @ltlucster0207
    @ltlucster0207 9 месяцев назад +1

    Nah the most important one was Super Mario Bros.

    • @AlphaFlare
      @AlphaFlare  9 месяцев назад

      Origin stories are overrated

    • @ltlucster0207
      @ltlucster0207 9 месяцев назад

      It saved the gaming industry tho

  • @circamagoo
    @circamagoo 9 месяцев назад

    More like Super Mario BLUNDER! Juss kidding :)

  • @Levi___Ramirez
    @Levi___Ramirez 9 месяцев назад

    Mario land 2 hatred?
    ignored and reported

  • @ngreen2013
    @ngreen2013 9 месяцев назад

    you're pretty funny dude

  • @hergzcool
    @hergzcool 7 месяцев назад

    cool

  • @gracecairns9747
    @gracecairns9747 9 месяцев назад

    Would be 10 out of ten i fit had good bosses

  • @existant1
    @existant1 9 месяцев назад +1

    👍

  • @Snaftt
    @Snaftt 9 месяцев назад +1

    SMRun was fun

    • @AlphaFlare
      @AlphaFlare  9 месяцев назад

      i've never tried it, so i'll take your word for it

  • @heitorsant1759
    @heitorsant1759 9 месяцев назад

    Fym you hate mario land 2

  • @keeganmcfarland7507
    @keeganmcfarland7507 9 месяцев назад

    God, I hope Nintendo continues to make awesome games (like Super Mario Brothers Wonder for a example) in the future without any deadlines.

  • @FoundOasis
    @FoundOasis 9 месяцев назад

    Lol its not, its fun but its overrated

    • @QPF1OO
      @QPF1OO 9 месяцев назад

      You are overrated

  • @callinater6133
    @callinater6133 9 месяцев назад

    Why a 9/10 though? If you treat 10 as something perfect that’s understandable, though I personally just use 10 for games that reach masterpiece status.
    I’d say wonder’s definitely a masterpiece for what it is. Wish it was a bit longer but its replayability makes up for it imo.
    If only they had a new game+ mode that let you start a new save with all badges and standees already unlocked lol