MINIRIG 4 vs. 3 compared: best audiophile bluetooth speaker on the planet

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  • Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025

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  • @Seanonyoutube
    @Seanonyoutube 5 месяцев назад +6

    Exactly the review I needed. Thanks man!

  • @shereifrostom
    @shereifrostom 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for the straightforward and well presented analysis

  • @thepetlamb
    @thepetlamb 5 месяцев назад +6

    Love mine! Holding out for the 4.0 sub before I buy one: Level mixing is essential. The Marshall sounds like it has an excess of upper mids, and really doesn't have the clarity. 🤘

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад

      Totally agree! The volume knob helps a lot but a wireless sub would make this a home run. The Marshall is kind of a mess in the midrange. Sometimes it sounds ok but a lot of the time vocals are completely lost and phase-y. At low volumes, they sound baser but as soon as you turn up the volume, they are a mess. You can hear how wonky it sounds in the recording and it's a very good bluetooth speaker compared to most.

    • @samuelflores2926
      @samuelflores2926 5 месяцев назад

      Same

    • @bnewson33
      @bnewson33 3 месяца назад

      ​@todd.parker I've tried the same volume knob but doesn't really have any control ,unless turned down to a quarter? Anything past this ,just goes up to max bass . Obviously using gain 2 .

    • @tz7813
      @tz7813 2 месяца назад

      Just got a pair of brand new 4’s delivered this morning to ‘upgrade’ from my 3’s?
      They’re going back on Monday.
      Something NOBODY is mentioning here is the signal to noise ratio.
      THEY HISS LIKE CRAZY AT LOW VOLUME!?!?
      My 3’s are silent at no/low volume, these are annoying AF.
      I thought I’d got a dud so opened the other speaker to test and they’re both exactly the same.
      Not happy as I’d waited months to get these and nobody mentioned it in any online tests.
      I’ve used only Minirigs since 2014 and this is a big shock? What the hell are they thinking??

    • @bnewson33
      @bnewson33 2 месяца назад

      What streamsite do uiu use ? I gound ut music had this ,but using apple music ,no issues at all. ​@@tz7813

  • @richmondstar4354
    @richmondstar4354 4 месяца назад +2

    I highly recommend a 3d printed portable stand /case if you have a 2.1 set up….got mine off eBay here in U.K…just get some shorter leads for connecting them and just tidy everything at the back….just got the old minirig 2 & 3 at the minute but will probably update to 4 too and when new sub comes out.

    • @neeks29
      @neeks29 Месяц назад

      Have a link to the type of stand you mean?

    • @richmondstar4354
      @richmondstar4354 Месяц назад

      @ if you’re in U.K. it’s on eBay site…not sure if available in other site too. Will check for link.

  • @AMT99100
    @AMT99100 3 месяца назад

    I have had the minirig 3 with the sub 3 for about 4 years. I have always had significant issues with stereo pairing. When they stay together with no interference they are impressive as can be for the size.(the constant cut outs even with all other devices, BT and apps closed/ off does suck.) Overall, I do love the minirig 3; great battery, sound and powerful! but since you mentioned slight cut outs still on the 4s I don’t know if it’s worth the jump. My HomePods (although not as dynamic sonically) never cut out. Wonderful video!

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  3 месяца назад

      In my experience, the stereo pairing with the 4's is miles better. The few drop-offs I've experienced have been from them being too far apart. Once they are stereo paired, they stay paired for the listening session. They are supposed to re-pair automatically but that is pretty mixed but it's really easy to press a button on each and get them working again. The 3's are a total nightmare with steroids pairing, not worth it imo

  • @wimnijenhuis9105
    @wimnijenhuis9105 4 месяца назад

    Still happy with my 3's, will buy the 4's when I need them.

    • @tz7813
      @tz7813 2 месяца назад

      Just got a pair of brand new 4’s delivered this morning to ‘upgrade’ from my 3’s?
      They’re going back on Monday.
      Something NOBODY is mentioning here is the signal to noise ratio.
      THEY HISS LIKE CRAZY AT LOW VOLUME!?!?
      My 3’s are silent at no/low volume, these are annoying AF.
      I thought I’d got a dud so opened the other speaker to test and they’re both exactly the same.
      Not happy as I’d waited months to get these and nobody mentioned it in any online tests.
      I’ve used only Minirigs since 2014 and this is a big shock? What the hell are they thinking??

  • @DanielKlíč
    @DanielKlíč 2 месяца назад +1

    Hi I have to upgrade, because of damage, but all of my friends have minirig 3 , is BT connection between gens possible?

  • @KristofAlentijns
    @KristofAlentijns 5 месяцев назад +2

    Do you get some static noise at low volumes too? It's quite audible on mine

    • @Seanonyoutube
      @Seanonyoutube 5 месяцев назад

      U on the 4?

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад

      I haven't noticed any noise/hiss on these, they sound super clean

    • @KristofAlentijns
      @KristofAlentijns 5 месяцев назад

      @@Seanonyoutube Minirig 4 yes

  • @bnewson33
    @bnewson33 3 месяца назад

    I bought the sub volume controller, same as yours. And there doesn't seem to be much control on it,unless turned very low ,then its full bass again after a quarter of a turn ,50% just seems like max bass on gain 2.
    Tried swappping diifferent gain outputs but mo difference.

  • @AnnoyingCritic-is7rp
    @AnnoyingCritic-is7rp 3 месяца назад +4

    The frequency graph shows its upper based heavy like a lot of these Bluetooth speakers. I wouldn't call that neutral at all. You really need a tweeter like in the sound core or tribbit. I just don't understand what they're doing here at all.

    • @DreStyle
      @DreStyle Месяц назад +2

      It's overhyped bs wasted my money on it just took em out today again to look at it again... It's just awefull, nice to have at the beach or whatever

    • @dmn818
      @dmn818 Месяц назад

      ​@@DreStyle I was going to get a minirig but frankly this video put me off.

  • @ManuMoncleaah
    @ManuMoncleaah 5 месяцев назад +1

    Nice review. Do you max SPL values for the Minirig 4 compared to the Minirig 3. I think you had them in the Minirig 3 review.

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +1

      I debated doing max SPL tests but honestly at full blast they don’t sound that great so I wasn’t sure if it was worth comparing. These get plenty loud, over 90db at 1 meter but without measuring distortion it’s a tricky figure. The 4’s have a larger amp which should give them 1-2db more output

  • @MrWinger1951
    @MrWinger1951 5 месяцев назад +2

    Compare with the Soundcore Motion X600?

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +1

      I wish I had more brands to compare these to!

  • @Blackraven-l6u
    @Blackraven-l6u 4 месяца назад +1

    I wish they could make it automatically turn on both minirig 4 and a subwoofer when connected if you tturn on the minirig 4 . And also hope they change the freq response to 20hz to 20khz .

    • @yozhech7819
      @yozhech7819 4 месяца назад +3

      20hz lol you want too much

    • @Blackraven-l6u
      @Blackraven-l6u 4 месяца назад

      @@yozhech7819 lol. Fyi 20hz -20khz human can hear . Research din pag may time

  • @Kogalskaben
    @Kogalskaben 4 месяца назад

    Awesome review!
    I been on minirig since 1, so been through every upgrade and version 😅
    Have they removed the volume control for the output on the master and 5 band eq in the new app?

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  4 месяца назад

      There are volume, bass and treble sliders in the new app

  • @张小让
    @张小让 5 месяцев назад

    I want to know which is better, a pair of minirig4 speakers or a minirig4+sub3 speaker? Mainly for outdoor camping, looking forward to your reply! Thanks

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +3

      I think a pair will sound more impressive and will fill a space better.

  • @njo9966
    @njo9966 5 месяцев назад +8

    That Marshall sounded so bad. Very tinny. These minirigs sounded much better. The 4 seemed like a slight improvement over the 3.

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +2

      Yeah, the Marshall sounded like a mess compared to the Minirigs and it’s actually a decent (and expensive) speaker. The difference between the 3’s and 4’s is more subtle but the better midrange and less forward highs really sounds quite a bit better

    • @asoma64
      @asoma64 5 месяцев назад

      @@todd.parkeris Minirig your favorite Bluetooth speaker ?

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +3

      @@asoma64it is! I used to keep buying Bluetooth speakers but I’m really happy with my Minirigs.

  • @bnewson33
    @bnewson33 5 месяцев назад

    Im lucky enough to live near their workshop.
    I bought the 4 with one sub to begin with. My music genres aren't really going to benefit 2 minirig 4's to begin with.
    But since then , now have to minirig 4's and 2 subs . 1 sub only plays the bass from one channel. Like you said line2 can be a bit too much ,but a lot depends on what you listen too, I guess.
    Great review 👍

  • @Bravactkins
    @Bravactkins Месяц назад

    Do you think 2 6x9 speakers and a sub is a better option for the back of a van?

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  Месяц назад +1

      Yes, those will fill a van much better than minirigs

    • @dmn818
      @dmn818 Месяц назад

      Just get a Dewalt TSTAK Connect Radio, that thing is a beast.

    • @Bravactkins
      @Bravactkins Месяц назад

      @dmn818 I might get a lawnmower love from England

  • @JCisJD
    @JCisJD 4 месяца назад +1

    I have 2 x3s and a sub. Amd I would agree with everything you said. The connection problems i found very disappointing given my investment. And i had lead issues also (with charging cables ) all 3 Failed me. I really wish to support this excellent, Bristol based company but unless they give me a good trade in price im not folking out £150 squid . Sadly as it does sound brighter and the lead set up is better for sure. I will probably try Sony....oh and the case ripped with no effort on my part, it sort of just came apart within a couple of weeks)

  • @LarryRichelli
    @LarryRichelli Месяц назад

    I just can't believe that these sound better than the Brane X smart speaker!

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  Месяц назад

      The Brane will have a ton more bass but I don’t think they are comparable size and price wise

  • @Aurum-gy1bt
    @Aurum-gy1bt 4 месяца назад +3

    Where did you get the minirig stands in the video?

    • @Dasbeerboots
      @Dasbeerboots 4 месяца назад +1

      Description, as stated in the video.

  • @neeks29
    @neeks29 Месяц назад

    Anyone have suggestions for ideal speaker angle? Trying to find a decent stand

  • @videokropka
    @videokropka 5 месяцев назад

    Вы используете в приложении Minirig функцию Tilt EQ? Она усиливает верхние частоты или их понижает в зависимости от положения колонки. Хотелось бы, чтобы вы об этом рассказали.

    • @bnewson33
      @bnewson33 3 месяца назад

      The app has had an update and thus feature definitely works better now and does it's job .

  • @robford3211
    @robford3211 3 месяца назад

    Can you plug in a guitar to the Minirig 4 to play outside?

  • @moonskyrocket
    @moonskyrocket 2 месяца назад

    Would it be a crazy idea to use a 4 and a sub inside the car?

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  2 месяца назад +1

      It would work but won’t sound as good as a basic car stereo

    • @moonskyrocket
      @moonskyrocket 2 месяца назад

      @@todd.parker Thanks for the fast answer, Todd.

    • @Bravactkins
      @Bravactkins Месяц назад

      ​@@todd.parker Would you recommend them for a van to blast out of the back door?

  • @teddytusen
    @teddytusen 5 месяцев назад

    Saw your screws and bolts organizer in another video. The big ones on the floor. Du you have a name/link? 😊

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +1

      Ah, yes. I recently organized all those and these drawers are great: amzn.to/3yUJHiq

  • @samuelflores2926
    @samuelflores2926 5 месяцев назад

    Compare to Brane X?

  • @WaterFresh7
    @WaterFresh7 5 месяцев назад

    Are you sure you got the original Stockwell 2? I am surprised how bad it sounds. I am asking because I've owned it and I liked it a lot, but there are many fake copies that are hard to distinguish looks wise. Where did you get that Marshall from? Awesome video. Thanks so much!

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +3

      Ha, yes it’s an original I bought from Best Buy. The Stockwell sounds pretty good at low levels but when you turn it up it gets really messy and distorted. I calibrated it each speaker to be the same 75dB with pink noise which would peak over 80dB with those test tracks (around 60-70% level) and at that SPL they sound really poor. I find the mids sound hollow and phase-y on the Marshall at all levels

  • @asoma64
    @asoma64 5 месяцев назад +1

    Have you used bang and Olufsen a1 Bluetooth speaker?

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +3

      Hey! Yes, I have an original version A1 but didn't include it this time because mine don't seem to be working properly anymore. It sounded good a low volumes but bass got very distorted and flabby when turned up. I found the battery life to be super short and the controls on the edge hard to use. It's a cool design and I love B&O but the Minirigs sound much better imo

    • @asoma64
      @asoma64 5 месяцев назад

      @@todd.parkerthank you so much

    • @asoma64
      @asoma64 5 месяцев назад

      @@todd.parker I love how my a1 gen 2 sounds but you convinced me to order the minirig 4

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +1

      @@asoma64let me know what you think of the differences. I don’t have the gen 2’s and apparently they are really good

    • @asoma64
      @asoma64 5 месяцев назад

      @@todd.parkerdo you know if they are making update to the sub, I don’t want to get one now and the new one comes out next month

  • @IndependentNewsMedia
    @IndependentNewsMedia 2 месяца назад

    Nice overview video, God bless.

  • @zantesh
    @zantesh 5 месяцев назад +2

    I find the 4 way more practical with usbc, and the stereo connection to be way better, and to be fair while they've dropped a fair bit of bass, that's not much of an issue for me, since I mainly used my minirig 3's in high gain to reduce the bass.
    Admittedly i'm yet to own a 4 yet, bought one for my partner, since she wanted a 3 for a while. But it just doesn't seem like enough of an upgrade for me even though they do sound better, i'll have to wait for my 3's to die first ( saying that the power button on one of them has started to flake out after about 5 and a half years).

  • @pandavova
    @pandavova 16 дней назад

    Cool in theory but im not spending 360€ on speakers and then 120€ for stands. Im in search for semi portable speakers at home for my bed but can't find something I can be happy with.

  • @JCisJD
    @JCisJD 4 месяца назад +1

    Sounds brighter for sure the marshall sounds appalling!

  • @christopherchapman8893
    @christopherchapman8893 22 дня назад

    I hate to say it, but that Marshall sounds horrible - reminiscent of the old “baby boom box” , lol. Great video!

  • @goobfilmcast4239
    @goobfilmcast4239 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love gadgets like this...but at these prices (for two) I think I rather spent 100 bucks more and get TWO HomePods from the Apple Refurb Store.

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +2

      Sure but they are for different use cases. The Minirigs are battery powered and portable, the HomePods need to be plugged into the wall

  • @GK-mk1jg
    @GK-mk1jg 5 месяцев назад +1

    @todd.parker - I’m still not convinced the 4’s sound better than the MRBT2’s
    The issue I had with the 3’s is that they were clinical, precise, cold.
    …and the 4’s I imagine still sound the same.
    The DSP ruins the sound.
    Most consumers don’t need precision and clarity …we want warmth, saturation, fullness.
    The MRBT2’s still sound the best the way they roll off the highs at 16, kHz.
    I know if I buy these I’ll be sending them straight back.
    @everyone- do we have any MRBT2 fans here? Anyone agree or disagree with me ?

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +2

      I don't have the 2nd generation to compare so I can't weigh in on this one. What I can say is they are going for a neutral sound profile. If I bring the highs down one notch in the app and have them at ear level, they are voiced very similarly to my Genelec 8030 studio monitors. I do wish the loudness DSP would bring up the bass and treble a bit more eat lower levels but I'm very happy with the goal of neutrality. To me the 3's are a bit too bright and there is more faux bass than I'd like that just reads as boomy/wooly.

    • @GK-mk1jg
      @GK-mk1jg 5 месяцев назад

      @@todd.parker thanks Todd for your reply.
      The thing is Minirig have to make a profit and be seen to innovate they are a business at the end of the day…I just wished they went back to the analogue chip. Interesting you mention genelec, the minirig 4’s are no doubt revealing.
      Could you listen to the 4’s all day do you think? I know I can on the MRBT 2’s
      I just worry that as long as they have this DSP then my ears get fatigued.

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад

      @@GK-mk1jg I listened to them for a few days as my desktop speakers and didn't get fatigued. Way I look at it, DSP is mostly just EQ so it's not that all DSP will sound bad, poor DSP choices will sound bad. I really feel like they made a lot of subtle but positive DSP tweaks in version 4 that make them more neutral and less forward so I think you'd like them if you like a flat profile. I'd be curious to do a head to head vs version 2, sounds like they were sweet

    • @Kogalskaben
      @Kogalskaben 4 месяца назад

      I had minirigs from 1 uptil 3.
      Loved the clearity in the 1, but it lacks bass and bluetooth, the 2 were an huge upgrade, and sounded so good, just hated the analog limiter, so much distortion when bass comes on and it has to activate.
      The 3 plays loud, lots of bass, lacks the some clearity from the 2, but still love it, stereo pair is buggy, but BT is some messy shit to work with.
      The 4 seems like going for more clearity again.
      Though it's still one of the best sounding Bluetooth speakers I have heard.

  • @JMJM75257
    @JMJM75257 5 месяцев назад +1

    Never really been a fan of these minirigs. A mate went through 3 due to constant faults and issues. Sure they sound great for the size and they are definitely a step up in fidelity when compared to most Bluetooth speakers but with stuff like the soundcore boom 2 it's hard to justify these anymore. I feel it's also a bit late in the game to be touting the USB c as a feature as it should have been the norm for a while now.

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +2

      Oof, that's no good. My 3's have been very reliable for me and I've been testing the 4's all summer and it's been smooth sailing. I hope Minirig took care of your friend.
      As far as whether they are worth it, it comes down to whether you value a neutral, accurate sound with lots of detail or just want something for casual listening. Listening on axis and A/B testing, I genuinely think these are very close to my Genelec studio monitors so the accuracy and detail is there which is crazy impressive. You can hear in the sound samples how bad even a "good" bluetooth speaker like the Marshall sounds compared to the Minirigs.

  • @QRS365
    @QRS365 4 месяца назад

    Stockwell is louder. I didn’t get much of a difference between the minirigs

  • @limodrivermike
    @limodrivermike 5 месяцев назад +1

    i got rid of all my bluetooth crap. constant emf just can't be beneficial in the long run. maybe look into quality wired items to reduce ones emf load.

    • @Seanonyoutube
      @Seanonyoutube 5 месяцев назад

      Constant living can’t be beneficial in the long run either.…

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +1

      You can choose to not use Bluetooth and go with a wired connection but I honestly don't think BT is a problem since they are low power. Minirigs are better than most because they are set up for chaining multiple speakers with the dual input/output jacks.

  • @truesight91
    @truesight91 Месяц назад

    The stands are $60 - $80 Australian for a bunch of plastic... wtf

  • @eddiebaby22
    @eddiebaby22 4 месяца назад

    They've out priced themselves. Too many other alternatives for much cheaper

  • @DreStyle
    @DreStyle Месяц назад

    Utter overhyped.... Lots of issues huge latency issues and they lack alot of clarity at high volume
    They are nice to have at the beach or at a picnic but thats it

  • @GetOnWithItGaming
    @GetOnWithItGaming 5 месяцев назад +5

    I think the 3 sounds better

  • @orhancivelek6912
    @orhancivelek6912 Месяц назад

    I am an owner of 2.1 Minirig 3 and I find your comparison very helpful however imo even Minirig 4 is still far from being a high end speaker. Long battery life and boominess don’t mean they have a refined sound. Moreover, with all the cables and everything they are far from being practical despite their tiny size. Maybe for hikers and bikers it is nice to have for outdoor purpose but not in my living room. I’d rather buy a Bose home speaker, VIFA or something similar produced by a company with history of HI-FI culture rather than a group of boutique enthusiasts attempting new things with lots of try-errors in the process.

  • @JimMcPartland
    @JimMcPartland 5 месяцев назад

    Seem pretty pricey for the sound.

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  5 месяцев назад +2

      They’re definitely a premium speaker but they are hand made and sound way more neutral and detailed than a typical Bluetooth speaker.

    • @Karizma231
      @Karizma231 3 месяца назад

      I would like you to compare to Anker X600 ​@@todd.parker

  • @whoever_81
    @whoever_81 2 месяца назад

    Too expensive. They don't even have specifications and features on their site! Wth is wrong with this company.

  • @youtubegarbage7876
    @youtubegarbage7876 2 месяца назад

    PROPRIETARY USB C CABLE.

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  2 месяца назад

      It’s a standard USB-C port

  • @toslinked
    @toslinked 4 месяца назад

    jesus, they sound terrible.

    • @todd.parker
      @todd.parker  4 месяца назад +2

      You can’t go by the YT audio, it always sounds bad but you can hear the relative difference between speakers and the Marshall sounds 10x worse even though it’s bigger and more expensive

    • @Karizma231
      @Karizma231 3 месяца назад +1

      How can they be so expensive yet doesn't even have a dedicated tweeter

  • @ydkma
    @ydkma 5 месяцев назад +1

    Beyond overpriced 😂, even if it came with 2

    • @jonb1484
      @jonb1484 5 месяцев назад +1

      They arnt cheap but I have heard around 5 dif bluetooth speakers of varying price points in the small to mid-sized area and these are way better than them all. Also, everything is expensive now, the Minirig 4 is about the same cost as 20 beers in a bar where I am and will last a lot longer :)

    • @echocornet
      @echocornet 4 месяца назад

      I have an old Bose SoundLink mini which I have used for years and thought it sounded really good….Then I bought a pair of these and they are a different beast entirely.

    • @bnewson33
      @bnewson33 3 месяца назад

      Can't find a sub vol control in UK, are you connecting to sub with this on the top output?