External GPU Over M.2
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- In this video, I upgraded the integrated graphics on a Laptop using a M.2 to PCIe x16 adapter. This video runs down the entire process from start to finish. This might not be the most practical solution but it was fun to test out and a great example of what PCIe can do. I want to know what games you think we should test out, in the comments down below.
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Congratulations, your laptop now is on life support!
Fr 👁️👄👁️
That’s what I’m saying… like either buy an egpu if your laptop has type c or just save up and buy either a better laptop or desktop
Maybe someone already had and wanted to give it a boost 🙄
@@brickmasterstudios447 it's a fun project tho
I used to do this some sort of thing over the mini pcie slot for the wifi card. I don't see the issue with this
bro maxed out the starting weapon
😂😂😂
Looooooooooooooolool
Fr tho😂😂😂😂😂
Nice one bruhhh😂😂😂😂😂
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the underbarrel M1 Abrams, classic
Ok but does it run Crysis?
At that point just build yourself a pc or get a prebuilt 😭
Unless you wanna upgrade a laptop
I mean, if you already have a laptop with a good processor it's kinda worth it?
@@caringnickel2403 not really, if you plan on taking that laptop somewhere good luck setting it back up
@@caringnickel2403 lmao
@@nuclearhamster that's barely a laptop now
I think everyone is missing the creativity that went into this, man just wanted to get a gpu working on his laptop and I applaud him for that
I would'nt call this creative, people have been doing this for years now, this is an old trick
this aint creative
no its stupid lol
@@ajac009 No, it isn't, not necessarily.
He just simply wired the gpu to the laptop and gives power to it😂 he didn't used the gpu's display because he can't🤣
why is everybody complaining? don't you think it's better to have that option than no option at all?
I mean it is cool, tho as other said this is a very niche thing. Not the most cost effective, and also makes the purpose of owning a portable laptop mute
Thinkpads are always the test subjects 😂
all of that hassle just to put a 2070 on a PCIe 3x4 💀
@@andrelisboa7193 You missed the point. It's the x4 part that he took issue with.
@@andrelisboa7193 Modern GPUs should at least be on a x8 slot for the most part(unless you're running gen 5 slot or something)
@@andrelisboa7193 Incorrect as stated. Correct would be "only works at upto PCIe 3 speed".
the most cursed ting about this is not the janky external gpu approach but the fact that there is now an AMD and a Nvidia GPU in the same system
🤣🤣🤣 I find it hahahilarious!
@@alexpierre3162 I think that's called double trouble haha
fr bro
That's normal in case you don't know.
Pretty normal ny pc runs Radeon graphics and a 4090
You'll usually get some kind of bottleneck with the PCIEx4 on the M. 2 slot.
(This one appears to heavily depend on what graphics card ya got)
@@iGNUiCould I'm not sure actually but there will be some kind of bottle neck if u use it with RTX3080 tho. xD
@@lunarstarfurry there definitely is. Since the Razor Core X uses Thunderbolt… it’s only operating at PCIe 3.0 speeds with 4 lanes (4GT/s). To get full speeds out of a GPU, you’ll at-least need PCIe 3.0 x16 or PCIe 4.0 x8 interface (16GT/s).
@@waste_of_time-1- sometimes using pcie 4.0 can lead to a small fps increase but there is plenty of bandwidth to go around to operate cards at 3.0. Worst case scenario you’re going from 150 fps to 140 fps
@@waste_of_time-1-here is a wide range of video cards currently sold that do not come close to saturating the full 16 lanes, if you’re running on a budget and have a laptop with an M.2. Connector for a pretty reasonable price you could get a 1660 super and an adapter or some used GPU. And have a pretty tolerable performance bottleneck, as compared to getting a new laptop, not a bad way to squeeze a few extra years out of a laptop. Especially if you can get a used GPU at a good price. It’s always worth scrolling around on craigslist or eBay for a little bit.
@@quantuminfinity4260 yes, lower tier GPUs wouldn’t see a difference in performance.
Scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should. . .
The price, and the additional hassle, made me think twice 😢
Your SSD is also using like 2 PCIs lanes I think, while your GPU uses 4.
The numbers could be wrong but my point is there’s bottlenecks lol
@@thecanmanification bottlenecks that hardly exist
@@aiexzs when you’re talking about pcie lanes for a GPU halving the amount needed is a serious bottleneck lol.
@@thecanmanification i think the mobile cpu is something more to worry about in most laptops lol
I was considering doing this with my laptop (Ryzen 5 3500u 16gb ram Radeon integrated graphics) but that would basically make your laptop glued to your desk which completely goes against what a laptop is. If you're thinking of doing this, look into building a PC and keep your laptop as a secondary device.
yeah same. although it probably wouldve saved me $600, i simply cant afford to lose the portability of my laptop anymore
Except that building a new pc is not cheap
@@MkLC04 yeah honestly now isn't the best time to build a pc, but it isn't the worst either. we are at the start of a new gen, and its gonna take a while before the almighty pc gets back to being a better value for money solution
you know you can disconnect that GPU when you want to move, right?
@@hi_its_jerry, honestly I think that we are far from this madness ending, everything is so expensive. Looks like Nvidia is all for being the best brand in terms of performance, and AMD might be a wisest option in terms of money, but it's still expensive.
The fact that the most used GPU is the 1650, a GPU that's like 3 generations old already, says a lot. As weird as it seems, I think Intel with their GPUs might be what the market needs, I'm hoping they keep going
Finally, using this simple implementation, all laptop users can enjoy a tower GPU.
Honestly just use an m.2 to oculink adapter. Much cleaner and you close the laptop for quick swapping
I did this for more or less 6 to 8 years
From using express card adapters to using thunderbolt. I even have the 3dmark measurements from each laptop and gpu I owned somewhere in case you'd want to expand the topic
Its nice that adapters such as this give people with older equipment options, as there's a lot of folks that would just throw away an older laptop like that instead of repurposing it, but I kind of wish that these adapters also included an additional slot to connect the SSD again, kind of like those eGPUs like the ONEXGPU, as not only do you get the external graphics card, but you also can add additional storage up to 8TB with its SSD slot, and even though the laptop loses its portability, it can be used for something else.
The adapters pcei slot is X16 long, but the connection it self is either X4 or X8 , so powerful cards have a bottleneck by connection. Got same result with alienware graphics amplifier. Its uses same X8 connection speed . The real methood is an MXM to pcei adapter , its not limited by connection speed its uses pcei X16 3.0 @ pcei X16 3.0
Any M.2 SSD slot is only PCIE x4
@@sihamhamda47Not all ports have X4 bus, some of them are X2 .
@@Csupati I finally know why some cheap laptop/PC motherboard caps the SSD speed at 1.5GB/s transfer rate regardless of the SSD type
Me with a ExpressCard slot: I guess I unlocked a cheat code
Edit: some external GPU connectors have ExpressCard connector
Edit.2: DAMM THANKS FOR SO MUCH LIKES
i have laptops with that and a express card adapter to pcie 16x 3.0.
@@DragonProtector cool, then you prob. Just need a PSU and a GPU
@@albibarti3951 tried but rip dell bios lock. system said not enough resources
@@DragonProtector sry but what is bios lock?
@@albibarti3951 basically they won't let you. Need certain cd with software to bypass it. I don't remember the cd
Congratulations you now have a new build PC :D
i think this is alternative solution which is make sense of some people that want to build PC but they still use their laptop, not buy another PC that will make high cost
This is almost like upgrading the starting weapon that everyone has 😭
Thinkpad nowadays are a beast with humble looks
Homie used the pack-a-punch machine on his laptop
I have a 1050 laptop, This is prefect for me, I think i am going to give it a shot. I dont have money for a whole new computer right now.
I've been using one of these adapters to great success using a Radeon RX 6500 XT to upgrade my laptop, which only had the iGPU of it's Ryzen 4700u
I feel the display adapter is the trick here.
The m.2 slot later - 🔥🔥☠️🏴☠️🪦
Isn't most of the power being consumed by the psu
A good way to run ML and LLM models for training and inference using a humble laptop.
Amazing video, really clear guide and really efficient too!
This is the way we did it in the old days, wonder how much performance loss there is actually, specially with newer laptops that have PCIe 8x 4.0
memory bandwidth left the chat*
Not necessarily, if you have a 16 GT/s slot, it's more than enough, for many cards even the 4/GT/s.
0:51 -- what does that even *mean* ??
*"Set my games to open during testing [...]"* ??
I've been trying to figure that out too. Is it even important? Not sure, but hopefully not.
More simple then i expected
Thanks! You may have just solved my desktop GPU problem.
Oh wow that so easy and not cumbersome or clumsy at all.
Would be nice to see i fyou can repurpose a port on the laptop case so you can put the laptop back together and just plugin the GPU from the outside when you need it :)
Congrats! Your laptop looks like it is on life support!
Very interesting experiment, I look forward tho see more of it! ✌️😁
..adaptor name: ADT R3G M.2 NVMe To PCIe X16 External Laptop Graphics Cards Extension Cable EGPU Adapter for Notebook/ NUC/STX/ITX Motherboard
Wow that’s crazy, great thinking dide
You'll probably find it faster on the external display connected directly to the GPU depending on the laptop hardware.
damn that 2070 design lookin sick
It's just a plastic rog strix card, decent looking but nowhere near the all metal cards of other brands...
XFX Merc Black are underrated and much more pleasing to look at 🗿
Originally I wanted to build an eGPU while watching this. Maybe if he put the GPU, power supply, and cables into at least a cheap eGPU casing.
But factoring the cost, hassle, and the eGPU not portable, might be better to start off with a gaming laptop. Since the bottle neck eventually be from this laptop.
Remember when laptops had upgradable gpu... Mxm slot
Love the vids ❤
"In order to upgrade this laptop's graphics, I built a new PC and used the laptop as a monitor!"
Try to find a shorter cable. The latency of that cable will bring up a lot of issues.
Whatever happened to the devices that were supposed to upgrade your laptop like that but also have hard drive expansion.
congratulations on inventing the exterior GPU enclosure.
Me with my laptop that only has 1 ssd slot and no thunderbolt:
This is amazing. thank you
Overkill at its finest🎉😂
Thinking how to bring it and show to all my friends..
What the heck, first time I'm seeing this. I didn't even know this could be done. Technology really has come a long way 🎉
Thanks for not uploading the testing video 😑
The design is very human...
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You can even use a 4k monitor ig...it can improve your gaming experience....which you can directly plug into the rtx
Horizon Zero: Dawn/ FW, ARK Survival Evolved, Rust... Hell- even some MineCraft. Those are what I want to see reviewed with the GPU added.
Buddy of mine did this once. Attached a 3060 to his laptop and quickly realized why not many people do this. 😂
What are people complaining about. Its a simply pcie adaptor to plug and unplug a egpu. Pretty simple pretty cool.
the bottle necking is crazy
Great, now arrange the table so you can use it comfortably 😅
I tried this, but my laptop turned into blackscreen. I've tried different GPUs from AMD RX to NVIDIA RTX but none worked.
yeah yeah goooooooddd... but the bottleneck ?
Do you technically get faster speeds with the M2 slot versus the thunderbolt port?
Yes, it also depends on the M.2 port.
Is this kind of setup actually worth it? A question for those that actually used a desktop gpu to a laptop
Mobile GPUs are designed to allow sending rendered frames to the CPU so you can choose to use the GPU only for gaming, which saves power. Obviously a desktop GPU can't do that, so you'll need to hand it to a VM with VFIO, and use Sunshine to encode the output of the dedicated GPU to a video stream for viewing on the internal display.
But that setup is pointless, since you're just streaming video over the network, and therefore there is no need for both ends of the connection to be the same machine. You can achieve better results by setting up a real desktop PC in another room and connecting the laptop to it over Ethernet or Wi-Fi 6.
It works. But there are dedicated external GPU systems
It's like intubating the laptop and connecting ventilator for laptop 😂
So glad mine has tb4, in the future I might consider an external enclosure
Until you realize the enclosure is more expensive than the gpu(unless you have Nvidia)
hey where did you buy that mouse pad i want to get it too
Thinkpad never dies
Will an A2000 need need an external power supply or will it draw all the necessary power from the pcie riser cable
Every single GPU will need a external PSU. But you can get some good cheap ones for free. You can check how much your GPU uses (in Watts) and then get a PSU that fits your GPU ( the A2000 uses 70W so your good to go with a 400W power supply from Corsair with 400W )
@@albibarti3951 that is BS, for this setup with A2000 all you need is a 300W PSU if it has enough PCI-E cables needed to supply 70W and if you get an adapter that gets power from the 24-pin power connector you can go bellow 300W if it's still cheaper, Corsair makes great PSUs but they can get pretty expensive in some countries so EVGA, GIGABYTE etc. are still good brands to buy from but definitely stay away from brands like Evolveo and other extremely cheap unknown Chinese brands, or even more specifically every cheap looking PSU with RGB fan lights inside, they are not worth it, they're inefficient, weak, dangerous, most likely to fail and you can hear the coil whine inside of them which is not a good thing, however if you have a PC then A2000 will not need any additional cables because the PCI-E slot can supply 75W max
Depending on power draw I use an Xbox power brick. Xbox one, 360, S or X. Look around for some old computers to take the power supply out of. People throw away power supplies
@@CreeplayEU oh thanks, I didn’t know that the PCI-E slot can power the A2000
@@albibarti3951 A PCIE slot on a desktop motherboard can deliver up to 75W, which is enough to power some GPUs without the need for additional power cables from the PSU, past examples of this have been GTX 750Ti, 1050 and 1050Ti (however some factory OC models did require additional PCIE power cables) which made these cards (especially the low profile versions) desirable for upgrading some smaller prebuilt desktops with a weak 300 - 400W PSU's to be able to run games that they previously had no business of even trying.
I did that with an old desktop that had no pcie except the wifi card slot
As a student, this setup look cheeper and just better, my school wants the student a decent/good laptop, i have a HP elitbook with a i7 and it cost me 800$ from my father (his old work laptop), My desktop has the same prossesor and a RTX 4080.This setup will make a portable laptop and a home gamaing machine while saving a lot of money, place and time.
I'm running an egpu enclosure and am dreading being forced onto a new Mac by my company since they don't have EGPU support on Apple silicone.
please explain the things you used to connect the gpu, i only understood the gpu and the power supply.
Wow! That is pretty nice!
Possibility itself is amazing
Hi brother, i want to ask something, my laptop has 2 gpu inside intel and geforce 950m and i want updrage gpu using exgpu adt link. First i have to disable the geforce inside laptop or not ?
Make difference before & after in gaming
The volume is so low. Make some gain using compressor and limiter on audacity
How does the gpu work on the internal display? Didn’t know a video signal is sent through the pcie port
If i wanna make egpu Rtx 3080 or 3070 supper for my laptop core i5 gen 12, Which power supply good for grafic card ? Thank you
Compared to Oculink, what is the difference in performance?
Couldn't you also do this with an older PCIe GPU that didn't require external power?
whether the screen is displayed via an external GPU or laptop monitor?
Ok I have a question, I want to hook up an old quadro k2000 to my laptop which is pretty old as well. Since the quadro doesn’t need any external power would the pci-e adapter still need to be powered?
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I wish laptops had pcie 16x port, not just a thunderbolt 4 port
Could you show the pinning??? I tried to do this to no avail.
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the performance over the 1x16 lanes will be hampered as you transport both display output and input over the link.
This would work best with External screen - 2x performance on that compared on integrated screen.
World’s most dangerous laptop. Just standing near it, you will be sweating
You successfully converted a laptop into a desktop. The graphics card sits infront of keyboard in annoying. How manage to close laptop bottom cover without pinching flex cable?
Cool project but giant kick in the pants for practicality
Maybe you can use Oculink to prevent bottleneck , idk