eGPU | Thunderbolt vs Oculink. Everything you need to know.

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  • @trysometech52
    @trysometech52  5 месяцев назад +35

    NOTE:
    If you plan to use WiFi card slot for M.2. eGPU, better double check that port. Because:
    1. If some cases you'll need an adapter to PCIe mini
    2. Most likely bandwidth speed will be limited to x1 PCIe line

    • @foggy8256
      @foggy8256 5 месяцев назад +1

      Why your English so Russian?😮

    • @tuannamtran9030
      @tuannamtran9030 5 месяцев назад +1

      Hi. Can i ask you some questions
      1. Can i use my WiFi Card Slot for my M.2 SSD
      2. How much PCIe bandwidth lane is on the M.2. NVME slot
      My laptop only have 1 NVME slot so i want to swap my SSD to WiFi Slot and use an USB WiFi. Then i will use Oculink through my NVME slot. I just wonder the bandwidth of its to choose a GPU in my budget. Thanks for your video. Great content.

    • @thedukeofdeathpt6262
      @thedukeofdeathpt6262 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@foggy8256 Can't you tell from his accent? It's because he's Slavic (not necessarily Russian)

    • @Abhishek__Parihar
      @Abhishek__Parihar 4 месяца назад

      ​@@tuannamtran9030 I had similar questions like you few days ago.
      you can use your nvme ssd on wifi card slot,
      I guess your wifi slot is most probably a m.2 e key type with pcie 3 x1 lane, you can buy a m.2 e key to m.2 m key adaptor and use ssd in that port,
      Bandwidth depends on version of port
      if wifi slot is pcie 3 x1 it's bandwidth is around 1GB/s (which i think would be enough for your ssd if you plan to use in that slot)
      if nvme slot is pcie 3 x4, it's bandwidth will be around 3.5 - 4 GB/s
      if your slot's are pcie 4 than it's gonna be double bandwidth of pcie 3 wich I mentioned above

    • @PHOENlX1734
      @PHOENlX1734 4 месяца назад +2

      @@tuannamtran9030 same thing, I'll also use oculink through nvme and swap the ssd to the wifi slot

  • @onigvd77
    @onigvd77 5 месяцев назад +50

    So my takeaway is Thunderbolt is convenient but not so performant right now, OCULINK is less convenient but more performant.
    Thunderbolt is more common, but OCULINK may require an adapter.
    Is that it basically?

    • @nimkal
      @nimkal 3 месяца назад +12

      In more technical terms, TB3 can only capture about 50-70% performance of the GPU card, whereas NVME egpu or oculink can both capture about 90% GPU performance. Which is a huge huge difference. BUT Nvme/oculink you have to turn off your pc when unplug/plugging it etc. TB3 is plug and play and doesn't require a wire inside your laptop/mini PC. Therefore, TB3 should be used if you move around your setup a lot, or if you travel a lot. Because those are the advantages of TB3.
      I personally will go for NVME m.2 egpu dock because I want to capture as much performance as possible from my purchased card, unto my mini PC. If I buy a card for $500 and get max 70% performance (at best), then I've lost $150 and it's as if I have a lower rank card. Defeats the purpose for me.
      ALSO, TB3 egpu is 50% more expensive than any NVME M2 dock. (but obviously because it has a casing - you can still get a more expensive NVME M2 dock if you want casing).

    • @johnwuethrich4196
      @johnwuethrich4196 2 месяца назад

      @@nimkal didnt you also say that rtx had to be off? so 90% of raster performance?

    • @MarlonSTUDIOV
      @MarlonSTUDIOV 14 дней назад

      ​@@nimkal Hello sir, i have Dual M.2 Support in my laptop and i have only one SSD,i assume that i have extra M.2 to use. So is it better to use M.2 over Thunderbolt 4 right?
      Also can i use AMD graphic cards in Intel CPU and NVIDIA GPU laptop?
      Also do you have any recommendation for GPU, i use Intel i5 11400 2.7GHz

    • @FunHunt
      @FunHunt 12 дней назад +1

      @@MarlonSTUDIOV CAREFULLY READ n WATCH it again plz. He mentioned it depends u move a lot or not, if u move a lot use Thunderbolt. i will remind also in the video he mentioned ALL EGPU Thunderbolt use TB3 for docking, so its doesn't matter u have thunderbolt 4 or not it will still run in TB3 and if u not mobile use the oculink in ur Free M.2 slot and get the Oculink EGPU dock. For recommended use max at 3070 Ti or equivalent on ur current Gen 11 intel Procie, if go any higher rank GPU u will waste ur money for the bottleneck both from ur Procie also from the EGPU.

    • @MarlonSTUDIOV
      @MarlonSTUDIOV 11 дней назад

      ​@@FunHunt Hi!
      Thank you for comment i appreciate it.
      I will use my ssd slot which is Gen4x4 and its reach 64gbs.
      I already save likely a 120usd because i will not use thunderbolt dock.So i have little more budget to GPU.
      What you think about 3070ti vs 5070.There is 80usd difference but 5070 have better frame generation.Can i use this frame generation with my cpu.Which one should be fine.I usually play triple A games.

  • @daz-kunboiii7792
    @daz-kunboiii7792 6 месяцев назад +54

    man, i used to plan to have a egpu but it price is unaffordable for me so i'd rather buy a whole pc and laptop is just for work. Your video explain very detail. thanks for that

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад +10

      And I think that's the right decision. You can find used components and build a decent PC with great upgradability. Wish you the best deals on the component market :)

    • @Asadc1995
      @Asadc1995 4 месяца назад +1

      I actually several months ago had a razer core x egpu enclousure ended up selling it
      As i switched to cloud gaming

    • @unaddan
      @unaddan 3 месяца назад

      yea, it's not ideal and stupid. the problem is, laptop already had a great performance nowadays with the same value or even more value at its price.

    • @Asadc1995
      @Asadc1995 3 месяца назад +1

      @@unaddan Yes! It was a issue several years ago. Now these days laptops are almost or even at toe to toe with desktop gpu variants

  • @mehmetaliozen9959
    @mehmetaliozen9959 3 месяца назад +4

    Mate, your works are incredible. I hope your channel becomes bigger.

  • @EzaneeGires
    @EzaneeGires 6 месяцев назад +9

    The editing of this video is really good bro

  • @Enratic
    @Enratic 6 месяцев назад +6

    Perfect timing dropping this video

  • @nimkal
    @nimkal 3 месяца назад +2

    Such an informative video! You're quite impressive. I learned so much from you in just 2 videos compared to hours of trying to do my own research. Really really helpful. Thanks for all the detailed facts with pros and cons, and the thorough testings done. Subscribed.

  • @jambabuck
    @jambabuck 6 месяцев назад +4

    Quality content and insights here on eGPU options and comparisons. Thank you.

  • @niyazhossaindurjoy8047
    @niyazhossaindurjoy8047 Месяц назад +1

    hats off bro , this is the most informative video.

  • @Theboss00077
    @Theboss00077 6 месяцев назад +10

    Not all USB-C eGPU uses PCI 3.0, some of them uses PCI 4.0 x 4 lines like ADT-UT3G which give higher bandwidth with better performance.

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад +2

      I hadn't noticed it before, and no wonder why. It's very hard to find any decent information on it even now. Apparently it can run faster on USB4 devices, but it's still a way off 4x4.0
      Looks interesting though, thanks for the info

    • @Theboss00077
      @Theboss00077 6 месяцев назад +5

      @@trysometech52 Yes it doesn’t give the full bandwidth of 4x4.0 because of the limits of USB 4 which is 40 gbps, but it give higher bandwidth than 4x3.0, which is about 30 gbps.

    • @truonghothien7592
      @truonghothien7592 4 месяца назад +2

      It could reach oculink's level on pcie 3.0

    • @moaz5652
      @moaz5652 2 месяца назад

      ​@@trysometech52With Oculink or exp gdc EGPU means there is also less CPU bottleneck?

    • @Coliflower185
      @Coliflower185 Месяц назад

      @@moaz5652no

  • @MegaThorz
    @MegaThorz 7 дней назад

    i've seen thunderbolt to oculink adapter product, curious on how that will work

  • @Splarkszter
    @Splarkszter 6 месяцев назад +2

    Would be cool to see the PCIe 4 x8 performance with the Framework16. We would need to adapt their thing to oculink but there are some projects on the framework forum already.

  • @wertiago3753
    @wertiago3753 2 дня назад

    HI FOR ALL MY LAPTOP SPEC :
    HP Omen 15-ek0039nw 15,6'' 144Hz Intel® Core™ i5-10300H 32GB RAM 512GB Dysk SSD GTX 1660TI
    i think about EGPU combine NME/oculink adapter but i haw a questions :
    1whot kind adapter for nvme /oculink egpu ?? + CAN I USE M2 ADAPTER TO OCULINK ON THUNDERBOLT 3 ?
    2 whot is faster better for egpu ?? [ i haw a 2 slot for ssd disk] :
    NVMe (PCIe x4 16.0 GT/s @ x4 8.0 GT/s) ---- NVMe (PCIe x4 8.0 GT/s @ x4 8.0 GT/s)
    3 my cpu is i510300H [ so weak ] for this processor what MAX graphics card to make the bootleck as small as possible [I was thinking about rtx 4060 or 3090 OR MEYBY RTX A 2000 12 GB]
    4 . if no 3090 and 4060 your propsition pls for help im tootal noob

  • @deathtrooper2048
    @deathtrooper2048 Месяц назад

    2:56 So that mean putting it into sleep or hibernate mode or that only a full shut off will work?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  Месяц назад

      If we're talking about handheld, it can be put to sleep, but then you have to press the power button on the eGPU before waking it up, and if it wakes up without pressing that button, you'll need to reboot that handheld.
      But it worked fine on a desktop PC via M.2.

  • @ViRiXDreamcore
    @ViRiXDreamcore 21 день назад +1

    Had a thunderbolt 3 eGPU with a 2060 and while not perfect, it’s still better than the onboard APU on the Go. Thanks for the video!
    Do ZUSB4 enabled ZeGPUs work any better since Go has no oculink port?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  20 дней назад

      I heard that USB4 eGPUs has a better bandwidth, but never tried myself. So I dunno if it has some tradeoffs

    • @ViRiXDreamcore
      @ViRiXDreamcore 20 дней назад

      @ Someone mentioned they aren’t hot swappable eith but does have slightly better bandwidth. Like 50G.

  • @WesleyAusten
    @WesleyAusten 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm using Intel ARC A750 as eGPU USB4 and it is working. but if you miss the timing of switch on for PSU it will causes VIDEO_SCHEDULER_INTERNAL_ERROR error, and also when you using GPU for first time (every time)freeze for 5 sec.

  • @--ic0n-1-
    @--ic0n-1- 3 месяца назад

    Very well put together. Thanks!

  • @karlklauda7739
    @karlklauda7739 23 дня назад

    Thanks for the excellent video. I’m getting an Lenovo X11C in the next days (Xmas sale at the Lenovo store). To add some AI numbers crunching for demonstration on the road I add a thunderbolt egpu with an NVIDIA RTX ADA 2000. For this purpose ( demo of AI text to picture generation)the thunderbolt Egpu with SFX factor should be good enough.

  • @RK-qn7tg
    @RK-qn7tg 5 месяцев назад +4

    So what better thunderbolt or oculik WHAT TO BUY?

    • @Nicky_TM
      @Nicky_TM 5 месяцев назад +1

      OCuLink if possible, better performance and pricing although a bit more hassle

    • @Samwsd
      @Samwsd 5 месяцев назад

      first you need a oculink port or external pcie oculink device

    • @EmulatorNoob
      @EmulatorNoob 3 месяца назад +1

      If you have an oculink port, get oculink. If not, get thunderbolt. Oculink isn't worth drilling holes into your device imo

    • @jeanfranco8272
      @jeanfranco8272 2 месяца назад

      For convenience and on-the-go gaming upgrade, Thunderbolt.

  • @safetycrocs5069
    @safetycrocs5069 3 месяца назад +1

    Great video, my setup right now is a Rog Ally X with a Razer Core X that has an Rx 6700xt inside and it works "OK". I can't wait in till there are some good Thunder bolt 4 EGPU docks. I think 40gbps will be pretty good for my type of setup.

  • @mrtechie6810
    @mrtechie6810 Месяц назад

    What's the best way to add an external GPU to the Minisforum MS-01?
    The Gen4 M.2 is already used by the SSD, so I am hoping to use the PCIe Gen4 slot.
    How about the Beelink EX dock with a PCIe Gen4 extender cable to my Minisforum MS-01. Can it work?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  Месяц назад +1

      I have Beelink EX dock, but I dunno if it will work with your mini PC. I though that Beelink used a proprietary connection.
      Based on what I googled, you have 3 m.2. slots, why can't you use one of them?
      Or isn't it possible to use PCIe riser cable for your x16 slot? With additional PSU, ofc. I can only guess that you don't want to get A2000 for that slot

    • @mrtechie6810
      @mrtechie6810 Месяц назад

      @trysometech52 I already have a large PCIe GPU.

  • @bilawalsarfraz1696
    @bilawalsarfraz1696 2 месяца назад

    Hello Sir, I am using Hp Elitedesk 800 G6 Sff with i5-10th Gen. Will this method work for me? There is some space available for low profile graphic card but its not much for Gtx 1080. I watched all of your videos related to Egpu. Can you please confirm? Anxiously waiting for your reply😊. Thank you.

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  2 месяца назад +1

      Hey, can you clarify which method? I guess Oculink? If you have a free m.2. x4 slot, then sure you can go for it.

    • @bilawalsarfraz1696
      @bilawalsarfraz1696 2 месяца назад

      @trysometech52 Tysm :) Will definitely give it a try. Thanks again 😊

  • @vana4054
    @vana4054 4 месяца назад

    Happy to see you promote UGREEN, I've only had good experiences with this brand name over the years! P.S. Oculink better than Thunderbolt, but more hustle to deal with. P.P.S. Bro has an arm hooked holding his device above his head and gaming in bed, absolute G move :D

  • @tylocook
    @tylocook 5 месяцев назад

    Do you ever have problems hot plugging thunderbolt? For me, something about either my enclosure, my cable, my device, or my operating system means it frequently fails to work and I end up having to restart almost every time.

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  5 месяцев назад

      Usually everything works fine. I've had a few instances of Legion Go disconnecting when moving the handheld, but that's more of a port issue + cable bend.

    • @tylocook
      @tylocook 5 месяцев назад

      @@trysometech52 Interesting. My GPD Win 4 only ever recognizes my eGPU when I plug it in during the boot-up process. If I plug it in when the machine is already running, it always fails.

  • @abdullahalmuhit1587
    @abdullahalmuhit1587 Месяц назад

    So can anyone confirm me if I want to run AI/ML models with an egpu will it work? I have a HP envy x360 and have thunderbolt 4 port

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  Месяц назад

      I tried to use it for image generation, and it worked almost flawlessly. Check here - ruclips.net/video/R6v18s3EyD0/видео.html

  • @johnmusterman2930
    @johnmusterman2930 2 месяца назад

    I have a Laptop that has 2 Thunderbolt 3 Ports is it possible to use both of them at the same time to somehow dubble the bandwith?

  • @Splarkszter
    @Splarkszter 6 месяцев назад

    Wish i could enable usb4 in my Yoga 16ARP8... the 14arp8 and ideapad 16arp8 do have usb4, I don't understand that.

  • @Alexandr.A.P.
    @Alexandr.A.P. 3 месяца назад

    Is this possible to make a setup with 2 types of connections? So, if needed, you connect through TB for portability but with more losses, if you need more solid performance for more demanding games you connect with Oculink with minimal losses - so it would be a base setup for TB but with possibility of Oculink. Is this possible to have such setup in one?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  3 месяца назад

      Try to look at OneXGPU or GPD G1. But they are using mobile GPU, which you can't replace

    • @Alexandr.A.P.
      @Alexandr.A.P. 3 месяца назад

      @@trysometech52 But I am not asking for the mobile pre-made eGPUs. Let me ask it the other way then - if YOU would be creating a setup for yourself, where you have setup like the in video (with TB) BUT you still want to sometimes squeeze more power through Oculink for demanding games, what would you do, if you have one GPU, desktop 4090, and want to get the most out of it sometimes (since TB is not giving the most)? Just make 2 separate setups for TB and OL, with screwing 4090 in and out in each? Is there a (simple) setup that would give you choice between TB and OL depending on what you want at the moment in one setup case?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  3 месяца назад

      Yeah, I got your question right from the first time. But you didn't specify which GPU we are talking about either :) That eGPU dock doesn't exist yet (at least I never heard of it), so it's manually re-screwing the GPU, which doesn't sound convenient.

  • @jasonross8434
    @jasonross8434 4 месяца назад

    Hello! If i go for the M.2/Occulink from laptop to the thunderblot egpu chassis, will i then be able to connect my thunderbolt monitor by thunderbolt cable to the egpu board rather than then the GPU card HDMI to HDMI?

  • @VioletEva
    @VioletEva 6 месяцев назад +1

    Hey just a some question, i heard from reddit and Eta prime that AMD RX is not very optimized for egpu is this true? I've seen rtx 3060 outperforms the rx 6750 xt. Maybe you can test it in the future with the same performance bracket e.g. rtx 3060 vs rx 6600? Thank you so much!

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад +2

      Can't say for sure, haven't used AMD GPUs for a while.. but maybe in the future i'll get one

    • @VioletEva
      @VioletEva 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@trysometech52 Thanks for the reply! I'll look forward to it!

  • @tobotobi8557
    @tobotobi8557 27 дней назад

    So basically the tb5 speed should be similar to the oculink since both have the PCI 4 standard?

  • @sky_king1072
    @sky_king1072 3 месяца назад

    Im glad you showed the 2060 and not just the 4090 since there is much less of a cpu bottle neck. How would the results differ at 1440 p

  • @D.u.d.e.r
    @D.u.d.e.r 3 месяца назад

    Great guide, thx! I hope future high bandwidth communication interface will be a standard for pairing your mobile or mini PC device with the external PCIE accelerator like GPU card. TB5 or future Occulink should become standard and honestly they shouldn't be bottlenecked vs full PCIE connection.

  • @AdzzVR
    @AdzzVR 4 месяца назад

    What would you say could match up with a Intel® Core™ Ultra 5 125U (12 Cores/14 threads) + 16 GB LPDDR5-6400 MHz RAM running with Thunderbolt 4 (40Gbps signaling rate)?

  • @danebeee1
    @danebeee1 6 месяцев назад

    Would,love to see a video about your method for that p.c. gaming setup for your bed!! Not many videos on RUclips showing how to do that well.

  • @faizannabi7540
    @faizannabi7540 6 месяцев назад

    I don't have oculink port on my pc what can I do use converter to pcie or thunderbolt will it affect bandwidth?

  • @mhszminth2387
    @mhszminth2387 4 часа назад

    omg, thank you for this test! BUT
    I have huge questions:
    here is the soon to be released ASUS ROG FLOW Z13 (2025)
    my problem is that it only has a thunderbolt 4 connection couse of AMD
    QUESTION?: it makes sense to buy RO XG MOBILE 5090 (2025) for it knowing that this new stuff TB5 able , because I'm afraid it would be a real waste of money because of the bandwidth, only then what the hell is recommended for it

  • @TrinanjanDutta
    @TrinanjanDutta 2 месяца назад

    Can you tell me the song or music name when you started doing benchmarking? 😅😅

  • @TheRochlan
    @TheRochlan 4 месяца назад

    You mentioned in your video that all existing eGPU docs are built on Thunderbolt 3 specs, i.e. it doesn't make sense to use them on TB 4. What about those eGPU docks which are advertised on Aliexpress as being compatible with both versions (3 and 4)? Or is this really just saying "it will work with TB 4, but with the specs/limitations of TB 3 with regards to downwards-compabitility", i.e. you won't get TB4 bandwith with these eGPU docks, even if your laptop supports it? Also, is it better to use shorter TB cables to get the most bandwith (most docks come with 0.5 to 2m cables)?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  4 месяца назад +1

      I think they're just saying that it will work on TB4/TB3 because of backwards compatibility and they have the same bandwidth limit.
      Regarding cables - it will work on max bandwidth on 2m cable just like on 0.5m.

    • @TheRochlan
      @TheRochlan 4 месяца назад

      @@trysometech52 Thanks!

    • @tiendadelchavo4132
      @tiendadelchavo4132 Месяц назад

      @@trysometech52 it isn't, every cable has loss in such bandwidth. Less cable length, less loss.

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  Месяц назад

      @@tiendadelchavo4132 Theoretically yes, but I tested both and the bandwidth speed was the same.

  • @EargasmicAudioShackInternal
    @EargasmicAudioShackInternal 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the inputs, I'm planning to make a back up gaming rig via egpu with a Dell Latitude 5400 with i7-8665u. This video gave me ideas for the build.

  • @Stecus2704
    @Stecus2704 2 месяца назад

    Could a Thunderbolt 4 to M.2 4.0 slot adapter use all the 40 Gbps of the port?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  2 месяца назад

      I can guess that it will be limited to 4x3.0 PCIe lines (32gbps)

    • @Stecus2704
      @Stecus2704 2 месяца назад

      @trysometech52 I mean connecting to the thunderbolt port of the laptop the m.2 adapter and then connecting to the m.2 port the m.2/oculink egpu

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  2 месяца назад

      @@Stecus2704 yes, I understood that correctly. Anyway you physically will be limited by TB4 specs

  • @state3x
    @state3x 3 месяца назад

    I am very interested in the Asus rog flow series of laptops that have an external video card (rog xg mobile), but unfortunately there is only a mobile video card. Although there is a pcie 4.0 connection. If you have a chance can you do a review changing mobile to desktop version ?

  • @danylo_nc
    @danylo_nc 2 месяца назад

    Man, I planning to use eGPU with mini-pc on ryzen, thats mean, I can for everyday use eGPU OCuLink, and if i need only mini-pc for trip, i just unplug OCuLink cable. For me its very good solution, and its very compact solution. Thank you for your review!

  • @JoonKimDMD
    @JoonKimDMD 2 месяца назад

    Is the conclusion saying that anything over 30GB/s is as good as Oculink? What do you think of USB4 that has 40Gb/s?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  Месяц назад

      Not really, I just mean that it way more stable than regular Thunderbolt (23gbps) connection. Never used USB4, so I can't really tell. Maybe I should try it as well

  • @thiagofacanha2081
    @thiagofacanha2081 5 месяцев назад

    Hello. In order to turn on the oculink egpu we just need to turn on the power suply? or the board has any kind of button? Thxs

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hey, power supply is always turned on, but there is a power button on the board itself

    • @thiagofacanha2081
      @thiagofacanha2081 4 месяца назад

      Did you have trouble installing nvidia app(experience and new beta one)? Driver is installed without problem. Nvidia 4060 is ok in windows device manager but nvidia apps dont work and games cant see nvidia 4060.. only the integrated one. Thxs

  • @ominousview
    @ominousview 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video. I see similar increases between the 2 connections depending on resolutions (i.e. CP77 benchmark with the X1 and onexgpu (7600m XT) 33%-52% increase from TB vs oculink 1440p-1080p, X1 with a SGWzone 4060 desktop, same benchmark 28-41% increase from TB to oculink). Yes it's more convenient for TB and some games just don't need oculink bandwidth to play 120fps at 1440p or even 200+fps so I save oculink for more demanding games if I don't have access to my 3080 desktop

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад

      Cool. That's a smart way to use it :)

  • @Cluster5020
    @Cluster5020 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for this very informative video of yours! May I ask how those benchmark numbers might compare with other GPU intensive tasks like video rendering, AI image generation or LLMs? Do they need also a lot of bandwith? If I take a look at the task manager when image generation is running, the GPU does barely anything in 3D and seemingly just using the VRAM.
    I assume model offloading into the VRAM will take longer with Thunderbolt though, because this is using bandwith for sure.

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  3 месяца назад +1

      Thanks! Take a look here - ruclips.net/video/R6v18s3EyD0/видео.html

    • @Cluster5020
      @Cluster5020 3 месяца назад +1

      @@trysometech52 thanks so much. Have my Abo, Sir!

  • @salahhima322
    @salahhima322 3 месяца назад

    i have Viviobook 15 (X1504ZA) and geforce gt 710 2gb, can i connect them toghether using M.2 or require Oculink ?

    • @thevoid010
      @thevoid010 3 месяца назад +1

      Don't even bother. Your integrated graphics are better than the GT710

  • @vicinius.carvalho
    @vicinius.carvalho 2 месяца назад

    Hey, thanks for this nice video! I would like to ask 1. if you have faced any issue with Oculink since this video was released? 2. I see that OCUP4v2 is now available. Would you recommend it or a different OCULINK adapter? I'm planning to use with an RTX 4060. Thank you!

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  2 месяца назад

      Hey, but this is OCUP4v2 :)
      I didn't use it much after this video, so I can't say. But the Thunderbolt eGPU from the same company was very reliable. So I think this one should also be good in the long run.
      In terms of recommendations, it depends on your main device. If it's a handheld, then you should go for this one. If it's some sort of mini PC/PC and you're using an m.2 slot, then you can go for a cheaper version and spend the extra money on the 4060 Ti instead of just the 4060.

    • @vicinius.carvalho
      @vicinius.carvalho 2 месяца назад +1

      @@trysometech52 I have a dell precision mobile workstation with an i7-11850H and it has one M2 PCIe 4 x4 and one PCIe 3 x 4... I will use the 4.0 for the Oculink adapter and install the SSD on the 3.0. It has a NVIDIA T1200 (GTX 1650 Ti) and I really need more Gaming performance. The Oculink is something that I'm looking forward to test.

  • @rob-the-goose
    @rob-the-goose 5 месяцев назад

    could you in theory use a m.2 adapter to usb c and plug that into the thunderbolt port instead of losing your wifi card or nvme?

    • @aithernight
      @aithernight 5 месяцев назад

      I'm pretty sure you'd lose the same amount of performance as normal thunderbolt

    • @SakuraDoll-C
      @SakuraDoll-C 11 дней назад

      No.

  • @03codey
    @03codey 5 месяцев назад +7

    thunderbolt 5 is really going to take things off with 'power up' stations and mobile handheld gaming as a whole

    • @unaddan
      @unaddan 3 месяца назад +2

      price will also flying

  • @triksin6094
    @triksin6094 3 месяца назад

    Will e gpu work on my laptop with old gpu inside

  • @ausf7294
    @ausf7294 3 месяца назад

    Is resize bar enabled automatically for the oculink port?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  3 месяца назад +1

      No, it's a part of the BIOS setting

    • @ausf7294
      @ausf7294 3 месяца назад

      @@trysometech52 will it be possible to enable resize bar if its an oculink port connected from an m.2?
      Since I checked hwinfo on my surface pro 8 and im not so sure if it would have resize bar support for the m.2 slot

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  3 месяца назад

      ​@@ausf7294 sure, the BIOS doesn't care how you connect your GPU or if it's connected at all. You can just this feature ON or OFF

  • @THESHADOW97139
    @THESHADOW97139 5 месяцев назад

    Hello
    So there is no PCIe 16x to PCIe 16x riser??

  • @vonhellus
    @vonhellus 4 месяца назад

    Maybe a stupid question but would this work with Alienware alpha r2? Like the stronger version of the steam machine

    • @TechMaestro01
      @TechMaestro01 3 месяца назад +1

      Does it have a thunderbolt port? I can’t find any information on it.
      If it doesn’t, you could use the m.2 expansion slot for oculink, but you’d have to cut a hole in the casing to plug it in.

    • @vonhellus
      @vonhellus 3 месяца назад

      @@TechMaestro01 Na it doesn’t have a one ill probably have to upgrade the case like you said

  • @huynhgiahuy1111
    @huynhgiahuy1111 2 месяца назад

    if i only use for 1080p 60hz then will thunderbolt 3 fine?

  • @Hoobboo12
    @Hoobboo12 6 месяцев назад

    Hey man I think I have the same laptop as you the ThinkPad E14 gen 5 with 13700h can you make a egpu video on it or any ocuilink modification for it ?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад +1

      Nah, mine is gen1. It's pretty old already and I gave it to my parents already :) That video fragments were from my older videos.

  • @RicardoSalinasFournier
    @RicardoSalinasFournier 6 месяцев назад

    Hi! What base do you recommend? The OcuP4 or the Beast Oculink from your previous video?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  5 месяцев назад +1

      Hey, the OcuP4 just has a more stable stand and it works with my handheld because of the power button. The Beast has the same performance for less money, so it's up to you :)

    • @RicardoSalinasFournier
      @RicardoSalinasFournier 5 месяцев назад

      @@trysometech52 thanks for the response! Currently I have a 2080Ti connected to my laptop via TB4. Do you think the performance will improve if I connect them via M2 with the Beast Oculink?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  5 месяцев назад +1

      Yes there will be a little improvement over TB just like I showed in this video with RTX 2060. Just keep in mind that 2080Ti is also PCIe Gen 3. So you will not get full benefits of Oculink port.
      Also don't use Wifi m.2. slot for that, I recently figured out that it most likely will be not x4, but x1 PCIe lines.

    • @RicardoSalinasFournier
      @RicardoSalinasFournier 5 месяцев назад

      @@trysometech52 thanks for all the info. I’ve just bought the oculink beast. Hope arrive soon.
      And I will connect them to an ssd m2 port. When they arrive I will send you my results! Thanks a lot

    • @RicardoSalinasFournier
      @RicardoSalinasFournier 5 месяцев назад

      Hi! Yesterday I’ve received the Beast base. It works great with my 2080ti. It performs better than the TB4 connection. I was thinking to upgrade to a Rtx 3070 but my M2 port is Gen3. Soooo, I don’t know if it worth it. It will be limited by the bandwidth. What do you think?

  • @yijiazhan45
    @yijiazhan45 6 месяцев назад

    I have a Thunderbolt egpu, and a G14 laptop with a Ryzen 7 6800 CPU and USB4. Considering RX6800, RX7800xt, and 4070 Super. May I get some recommendations on which one to get please?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад +1

      In this budget I bought a 4070S for myself and used it as an eGPU in my previous video. I just don't mind using DLSS3 and AMD's FSR isn't that good yet in my opinion.

    • @NoBodysGamer
      @NoBodysGamer 6 месяцев назад +1

      If you dont care about ray tracing and DLSS, 7800XT will be faster.

  • @wayne8797
    @wayne8797 6 месяцев назад

    Jumped on the egpu bandwagon with a mini pc and dock from Ali too. Still waiting on the dock but I already received my RX6800 and corsair RMx PSU that’s supposed to be very quiet. My first pc build in 20 years 😂 all for the sake of sim racing 😅

  • @DeviciWasTaken
    @DeviciWasTaken 6 месяцев назад +1

    hold up, I've heard that it works on both USB-C 4 and Thunderbolt 3 or later (without the need for AMD),

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад

      Yep, I said exactly the same. USB4 or Thunderbolt 3/4. There is also text hint: not necessary to be AMD for USB4

  • @achtundvierzigachtundvierz880
    @achtundvierzigachtundvierz880 7 дней назад

    Please more such videos

  • @xjul3s620
    @xjul3s620 3 месяца назад

    Hi there, thanks for the video!
    Quick question:
    I want to swap out my current gpu but find it really hard to remove it.
    Is there any latch/mechanism holding the card into place at the Th3p4g3 eGPU (besides the one screw at the top)?
    Or do I just need to pull stronger?

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  3 месяца назад

      Hey, there is no holding mechanism on the Th3p4g3, so yeah just pull a little bit stronger

  • @johndoughto
    @johndoughto 4 месяца назад

    excellent video work, and home work! haha - don't even play games, but good info digging into the x4 pci4/3 and TB4 . gotta get my teslas into an egpu setup for basic ai.

  • @BrentMaxwellian
    @BrentMaxwellian 6 месяцев назад

    Super interesting - thanks!

  • @KosmatyWilczek
    @KosmatyWilczek 6 месяцев назад

    Thank you, you do one of the most interesting GPU related benchmarks out there.
    Just want to confirm. Are you sure you have not hit any (even if little) bottleneck with 4090?
    40%~ usage (for example for God of war) for CPU may be misleading based on cores utilisation. It is just weird to see below 99% for GPU in direct connection.

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад

      Hey, glad to hear that. Thanks!
      Regarding CPU, I have a video where I compared it to 14900K in games - ruclips.net/video/CRvw-JxhOiU/видео.html
      Also check pinned comment there, because I had even better results there.

  • @VanFS3K
    @VanFS3K 3 месяца назад

    Beelink GTi Ultra with EX dock is probably what you want, PCIe x8 connection

  • @duyethoangnam2262
    @duyethoangnam2262 6 месяцев назад

    can i use my usb c on thinkpad e590

  • @Russiangamerpro2021
    @Russiangamerpro2021 6 месяцев назад

    They did said USB 4 port will work fine directly to external graphic card because they said it’s comfortable with Thunderball for directly to USB 4 means you can get some transfer speed really well to get some performance boost in the future future that they will fly away that USB 5 five up to 80 gigs of speed

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад

      Bro, sorry but I have no idea what you're saying.
      Но ты можешь попробовать на русском)

    • @Ra896
      @Ra896 6 месяцев назад

      @@trysometech52LMAO

    • @Russiangamerpro2021
      @Russiangamerpro2021 5 месяцев назад

      @@trysometech52 sorry it’s just I using speech to text by using a microphone so I don’t know how to type. I have a learning disability so I meant thunderbolt 5 port

  • @orez1236
    @orez1236 6 месяцев назад

    what about this EGO1-M eGPU

  • @Amybnuy
    @Amybnuy 6 месяцев назад

    Having to restart is such a pain tho :p
    Maybe thunder bolt 5 will rescue us

  • @pisosyam
    @pisosyam 5 месяцев назад

    Привет. Что думаешь на счет lenovo thinkbook 14+ и внешней видеокарты по oculink? По-моему, хороший мобильный cpu способен обеспечить норм производительность в играх

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  5 месяцев назад

      В теории заучит круто, но обзоров ещё не видел на него. Да и вроде как их тяжело достать

  • @omarjimenezromero3463
    @omarjimenezromero3463 2 месяца назад

    as things are right now, i will buy a mini pc with the oculink port and the other things just because i can get spare parts of the same model for like 5 years if something happen to my hardware, aside that there is not a lot of margin to update the entire stack, also the laptop spare parts aside the same things and most of times having the cpu fused with the motherboard just put an extra price to the maintenance and maintanability of the full build, so for me the oculink with mini pc is better option than had to get a laptop with more things that can broke at higher price. Aaaaand i think i watched that in your other video, wich was alongside this very good because gpu's sure are expensive.

  • @teckmology4824
    @teckmology4824 6 месяцев назад

    So any laptop with usb 4 can run egpu?

    • @NoBodysGamer
      @NoBodysGamer 6 месяцев назад

      If your laptop has USB4, yes, you can use both TB4 and USB4 dock, BUT TB4 dock is 1gb faster, there is only ONE brand that makes such GPU docks for now and they have no charging, but they 30% faster VS the BEST TB4 dock, you basically get FULL PCIe Gen3 X3 speed
      TB4 dock on USB4 PC: 2500 device to host and host to device
      USB4 dock on USB4 PC: 3500-3700 device to host and host to device
      The worst speed is on Intel, TB4 on Intel will be 2200-2300MB/s

  • @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-
    @-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- 6 месяцев назад +96

    Bro, nobody is talking about Thunderbolt 4 when comparing to Oculink. EVERYONE wants Thunderbolt 5 to come out and take a shit on Oculink and bury it under the sands of time.

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад +34

      I think we're on the same page :D
      But compared to what we have at the moment

    • @heshijie
      @heshijie 5 месяцев назад +1

      mcio for egpu is way better than tbt5

    • @ciw8688
      @ciw8688 4 месяца назад

      @@heshijiewhat is mcio?

    • @benhillard919
      @benhillard919 4 месяца назад

      ​@@ciw8688thank is mini cool edge if I remember correctly

    • @TechMaestro01
      @TechMaestro01 3 месяца назад

      ⁠@@heshijiewhat’s mcio?

  • @ЮрийКаменовский
    @ЮрийКаменовский 4 месяца назад

    32 gbps is pcie 3.0?

  • @sp4mych
    @sp4mych 6 месяцев назад +4

    awesome videos😯
    let's chill with simple thunderbolt connection and wait for tb5 :D

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks man! Sounds like a plan :)

    • @ciw8688
      @ciw8688 4 месяца назад +1

      Any info on when will tb5 come out?

  • @RobloxianX
    @RobloxianX 4 месяца назад

    TB5 will be even beefier than Occulink. eGPUs will do incredibly well with Mini PCs

  • @damson3413
    @damson3413 5 месяцев назад +2

    let's be clear here, most gpu activity does not use the full x16 bandwidth, it's A LOT of bandwidth and for most of the time it's just not used, it's mainly for loading textures and data onto the GPU, so basically, the only thing link bandwidth beyond a single pcie 4.0 lane will affect is load times. making sure the pcie lanes connect at the latest standard version of pcie that all your hardware can do is more important.
    I've run thunderbolt gpus before, the only real overhead with it is the fact that you're sending the video back over the thunderbolt cable and onto the laptop's screen, so just buy a better gpu lol.

  • @rohanchooramun7288
    @rohanchooramun7288 3 месяца назад +1

    Everything you need to know but said nothing about the software side.
    What to uninstall, drivers if device already has a dedicated GPU ect, should we boot in bios to detect the Gpu, how to do it ect ect

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  3 месяца назад +1

      Because there is nothing to tell about. It behaves just like a regular GPU in the regular PC. You will get the image signal even without a drivers

  • @Bruuhhhhhh
    @Bruuhhhhhh 4 месяца назад +1

    It is honestly so disappointing to see absolutely nothing regarding thunderbolt 5 so far.. After the launch of that $4000 razer laptop that already has a 4090 in it, no other laptop or device has come out with it.. The fact that they're taking this long with it makes me quite hopeless that the development and implementation of thunderbolt 5 will work as well as everyone expects it to with eGPUs

  • @LuminousSpace
    @LuminousSpace 6 месяцев назад

    multiple monitor setup with usb4 stutter a lot, so oculink really is the way to go for now

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад

      Only if one of them internal screen. External screens doesn't affect bandwidth as far as I know.

    • @LuminousSpace
      @LuminousSpace 6 месяцев назад

      Idk i teat it out with one browser open 9 videos and the other running game, the game perform as bad as 780m​@@trysometech52

  • @ciw8688
    @ciw8688 4 месяца назад

    At 5:27 why is the 4060 is not on the list?

  • @Fisheee123
    @Fisheee123 6 месяцев назад +24

    I ordered the egpu dock from aliexpress, ordered a 500w power supply, and just got the Zotac GTX 1070 today. Can't wait to try out the egpu setup.
    If anyone's wondering, total cost was $255. Dock was $120, Power supply was $40, and GPU was $95 used from ebay.
    My laptop has a
    12th gen i7-1255U
    32gb ram
    MX550 GPU, which is why I'm getting the egpu cus the mx550 is not the best.

    • @jakerosper9239
      @jakerosper9239 6 месяцев назад +2

      I'd love to hear how it goes for you. I want to do something very similar for short blender rendering.

    • @baksooobaksooo4816
      @baksooobaksooo4816 5 месяцев назад

      Ur cpu is low power.

    • @mightymallet5474
      @mightymallet5474 5 месяцев назад +1

      Bruh give us an update fr

    • @Fisheee123
      @Fisheee123 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@mightymallet5474 oh yea I forgot I commented this. I ended up finding out that my laptop doesn't have a thunderbolt port, but rather an "always on" USB c port which is also labeled with a similar lightning bolt. I ended up returning everything ☹️

    • @GhostGamer799
      @GhostGamer799 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Fisheee123you could have used m.2 version or pcie of the wifi card

  • @Roykalilahmad
    @Roykalilahmad 3 месяца назад

    Also tell when using thunderbolt 3 how can we connect external monitor?
    Do we have to use the port on graphics card to external monitor or use the port on laptop to external monitor

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  3 месяца назад

      Yes, just connect your monitor directly to the GPU

  • @danieldiazgiraldo8337
    @danieldiazgiraldo8337 6 месяцев назад +1

    :) as always, nice video!. Soon I will see ETA prime competing with you.

  • @dankewurst
    @dankewurst 6 месяцев назад

    There are laptops with Oculink. Intel Ultra Powered Lenovo ThinkBook 14+ & 16+ 2024

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад

      I showed them on as upcoming laptops at 3:02, but I didn't find any info that they were already released. At least at the moment of preparing script.

    • @patchface_fool
      @patchface_fool 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@trysometech52the were released in China. It is complicated to buy them as of now.

  • @boreneoman7728
    @boreneoman7728 Месяц назад

    good video

  • @nofalware
    @nofalware 3 месяца назад

    thanks

  • @Jeetmon_Zadge
    @Jeetmon_Zadge 6 месяцев назад

    That definitely looks like Spider Man at 7:23 😂

  • @DaddyBenson
    @DaddyBenson 6 месяцев назад

    I’m using this power bank for my Rog Ally. But it can’t activates the 30W mode of it, regardless that its OUT2 port supports 65W output.
    Except for that I have no complaints.

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад

      Hmm, I just checked on my handheld. I had around ~85w from OUT1 and ~55w from OUT2. But my battery on handheld is around 50%, we should also take that into count.

    • @DaddyBenson
      @DaddyBenson 6 месяцев назад

      @@trysometech52 Neither works on OUT1. On their label, out1 doesn’t support 20V*3.25A 65W output, so this is expected.

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад

      I am not a pro in this question, but it works for me, so it's possible.
      Are you sure that we have the same version? I know that there is the same looking but older one. Also if all 3 ports are used - power output is different. And last point is cable - make sure that it's good. Mine supports up to 100w of power delivery.

  • @drxym
    @drxym 2 месяца назад

    I don't know why anyone would want the spaghetti of either system if gaming is their intention. Of the two the Thunderbolt system seems most convenient and universally supported but docks with GPUs in them are damned expensive.

  • @theRockChines
    @theRockChines 3 месяца назад +1

    Oculink is a great alternative for thunderbolt 4, but thunderbolt 5 has 120gbps of speed, so it's high enought to deal with a 4080 or less

  • @Moonrakerd
    @Moonrakerd 2 месяца назад

    from my experience thunderbolt is not exactly stable, plus all sorts of little problems that its causing like sleep, windows scaling problems etc

  • @Z-add
    @Z-add 3 месяца назад +1

    I don't know of any mainstream laptop with oculink. Tb4 is almost everywhere.

  • @Recommendable
    @Recommendable 6 месяцев назад

    I bet you can't wait to get that thunderbolt 5 in your hands :P

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  6 месяцев назад

      Oh yeah, you're goddamn right :D

  • @shaufiqfauzi6640
    @shaufiqfauzi6640 4 месяца назад

    3:03 GPD Win Max, GPD Win 4 has oculink.

  • @NikhilKumar-yq1fx
    @NikhilKumar-yq1fx 5 месяцев назад

    Bro buy new razer blade 18 with thunderbolt 5 and then try e gpu on it

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  5 месяцев назад +1

      eGPUs with Thunderbolt 5 doesn't exist yet, we have to wait for it

    • @NikhilKumar-yq1fx
      @NikhilKumar-yq1fx 5 месяцев назад

      @@trysometech52 i travels a lot
      So i am stuck on a 4090 sff build with water cooling or a laptop ? But i want to play heavy demanding games ! So which one i choose !

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@NikhilKumar-yq1fx PC is always better in terms of performance, but even SFF will be a heavy brick. eGPU with a case will be almost SFF PC size.
      So if you travel a lot, I'd stick to a powerful laptop and ignore eGPU topic.

  • @Mezzeric
    @Mezzeric 3 месяца назад

    You should have tested different Oculink eGPUs as they perform differently. I recommend SFF-8612 / SFF-8611 because that is better compared to OCuP4V2. IMHO.

    • @trysometech52
      @trysometech52  3 месяца назад

      Interesting, and how is it better? I had a maximum available bandwidth speed for Oculink with my eGPU

  • @Russiangamerpro2021
    @Russiangamerpro2021 6 месяцев назад

    A lot of people don’t make too much videos about EGPU maybe make more videos of it by using it to plug-in directly to a handheld because they might up to 80 gigs of speed by using USB 5