RTX 3090 Ti + 15 Yr Old CPU
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Should try getting hold of a socket 1366 motherboard, a 6 core xeon w3690 (Basically a core I7 980x or 990x with unlocked multiplier.
So get a fat aio on there & fan pointed on the vrm on the motherboard.)
24 gb of ram via 6x4 gb ram sticks, and run the 3090ti, it should have support for cyberpunk 2077 by the look of other youtube videos.
Damn. you! I had these exact specs. Minus the GPU of course. Though, back in that day i had a Zalman GT1000 case with the red fans in the front. With an XFX 790 SLI Ultra Motherboard in it. Intel Core2Quad (i believe it was the Q9550.) I know the Q6600 was extremely popular as well back then btw! As for the GPU i know it was an XFX GT (Black edition) but i don't remember the number anymore to be honest. The CPU cooler was the same Zalman CPU cooler as you have in the video but it was black with a green light in it. All in all, it looked very cool. I had uv lights in it with blue and red lights and it would go on the sound/volume of the music! lastly, i had a 600 watt PSU from OCZ. I really loved that pc! And then, a bit later, i was diagnosed with leukemia and i pretty much stopped doing building my own pc's or as we would call it back in those days: "PC Tuning."
I7 4790k whit RTX 3090TI Plzzzzzzzz
Hey. I’m in australia and with the highest pays, you cannot afford a computer.
I could only get myself a $2000Aud G531GT-AL017T, which is trashy, it has a 1650.
I am struggling with computers.
Tips? (Don’t tell me to get a new job)
@@Versuffe Get a new job! 😂 Just messing with ya! 😂 But seriously, question: Why did you take a "trashy" $2000 pc? Why not look around first on youtube or google for example for best value? $2000AUD seems like a lot of money? You could've saved up a bit longer? Or wasn't that a possibility?
Next video: Intel Core i9-14900K with GeForce 256.
That's a good idea lol
@@Silas123ezno way, 17 hours ago
@@wvh-pups no way, 5 hours ago
@@CR7Addictzno way, 2 hours ago
@@zeniththedemuthno way, 2 hours ago
Those black slots are Industry Standard Architecture (ISA) slots. It is a 16-bit bus (AKA AT bus) backward compatible with the 8-bit bus (AKA PC bus). Which could support up to six devices and had operating speeds of Half-duplex 8MBps or 16MBps. Vying for a 32-bit bus, an extended version (EISA) was created; and while seeing some success in the server market it was later replaced by the emergence and adoption of the Peripheral Component Interconnect (PCI) bus, the predecessor of the PCIe bus we all know and love today.
It surprised me he didn't know what ISA slots are. I'm only 30yo but I've had a k6 and pentium 3 machines motherboards with ISA slots and AT power supplies.
I knew what they were for, just couldn't remember the name, and I'm 33
This explanation threw me back. Instantly reminded me of a character in TRON 2.0, who was residing in the old mainframe. He used to geek out on new hardware this way. Good old times :D
@@zaxmaxlax Same here. I'd love to see what happens if he has to put together an AT system.
Think the VESA Local Bus extension for the 16-bit ISA was more common for desktop motherboard before PCI came along.
Used to have this exact CPU back in 2010/2011, on a DFI LanParty P45, overclocked at a pretty good 4.2 ghz, with the same 8gb of ddr2, and an SLI of GTX460. That combo could run Crysis 2 in Ultra DX11 and with HD textures at 60+ fps at 1080p, and Battlefield 3 on Ultra 1080p at over 80-90 fps and I was feeling like a king with that setup back then! I eventually switched to the sandy bridge platform with an i7 2600K in 2012, then upgraded the gpu part to a GTX780 Ti in 2013. Good times man.
I have a 4460 cpu and gtx 750 ti in 2024 i think its time for an upgrade
@Zentoro143 damn thats bad i think you need an upgrade morw than me
@@DT_ShadowZ it's about time yes. Realistically if you could get your hands on a Haswell i7 and pair it up with something like a 1660, you could get a little bit more life out of that 10 year old platform, but still it's most definitely obsolete.
@@TheRealWALLABI thats the exact gpu im using for my next build but the ti version
This video brings back memories. We had a family computer bought in 2009 with a similar CPU. I then got it as my first very own PC in 2012. I finished the Witcher on my Q6600 back in 2015 I then proceeded to buy a Ryzen in 2017. I pushed that CPU very far. Even overclocking it with duct tape. I still loved it even through all the crashes and fps drops. And it still runs. As a TV PC in our home
overclocked it with duct tape? that actually works? wow
Danm that works??
@@djancak duct tape one of the pins on the cpu and it upclocks it
It’s a ISA slot. Was before PCI and was around with the AGP GPU slot
Yeah - that's what good Dos soundcards sit in :P
ISA slots were created in 1981.
My first sound card used an ISA slot. I can confirm this is ISA.
You mean ISA was before AGP? right.. cuz ISA slots were the original 8-bit bus interface for IBM PC and all clones.
"It’s a ISA slot. Was before PCI and was around with the AGP GPU slot"
Whoah whoah whoah! Hold them horsies. That there is rainbows and unicorns talk. The ISA slot was not around with AGP. AGP is waaaaaaaay too new for an ISA slot. ISA came out in 1981. PCI didn't come out until a decade later in 1992. AGP, yet another five years in 1997. To find an ISA slot and an AGP slot on the same mobo at all was extremely rare and usually spoke of industrial application.
Love how the processor at 100% doesn't get more than 50°C
mine reaches 100 C° at this utilization
@@Blaczek297 My 12700K wants to run at 100 naturally. I've had to upgrade my cooling twice since I got the thing, because the first upgrade wasn't good enough. 12th gen gets way too hot way too easily.
I have a Dell G3 laptop and I already ordered cooling pad and I'm waiting to get it. When I get it I will test it and let you know
@@Blaczek297 you got it ?
@@shivamverma7151 yes
Man that takes me back, I had that exact cooler on my first PC as well.
I remember building my first custom watercooled loop with a Q6600 overclocked at 4ghz and HD4890 overclocked at 1ghz stable. The watercool loop cost me the same as the total cost of all other components in the system, but It was the first 4ghz q6600 i've seen. After that I got the Phenom II 1040T which was a rebadged 1100T ... ohh the good times. Also you can probably overclock that CPU to 3.6 - 3.8ghz with the Zalman Cooler and that's like 30% more performance. Thanks for the nostalgia trip!
Legit had that exact CPU, motherboard, & cooling combo back in 2008.
Had my Q9550 overclocked to a modest 3.7ghz paired up with the ATI Radeon 4870. Served me well for quite a while. Good times. Makes me feel old now turning 36 soon.
I was on an Overclocked Q6600 :)
Bro u rich af back then 🤣
I still got my old ass ati 4890 laying around somewhere. it was still a contender when I upgraded. I used it on a old Athlon x4 620.
'Modest'
Git old, old man
The development from 2009 -> 2011 was extreme - Opens you up to stuff like the i7 3930K which still holds it own at 11 years old
Would love to see a follow-up with some of the first 6-cores. I'm actually still using mine with a 2070 Super
Yeah, my 3570k was my longest lasting system. It's now become a hand-me-down to my niece who uses it for minecraft and roblox.
Can confirm that the Ivy bridge CPU still hold up very well for their age. In the past you never really could get away with using processors over a decade old. Got a 3950x now and it's almost obscene how much performance modern CPUs have and it's really getting to the point where you have to struggle to find ways to max out the hardware.
Still using my i7-3770K & GTX 670, in 2022. All I do is play some indie games and GTA V. GTA V on ultra runs good enough for me, mostly at 60 fps.
@@mexert14 I run a slightly worse system than yours, i3 2130, GTX 650
I'm still running i7-970 and rx580 and it does everything I need
This video really demonstrates just how important the CPU is. You can cheap out on it up to a certain point but your still gonna need something relatively modern with high clock speed and core count with modern instructions like AVX2. In order to just boot some games.
When you actually have the exact same CPU with a GTX 750 Ti...
6:44 Those are ISA expansion slots. Those came way before the PCI slots and the AGP expansion slots. At the time of that motherboard, those ISA slots were probably used only for compatibility with Legacy Devices. Oh the 90's, how much we miss ya :)
Definitely makes me feel old that PCI was introduced 30 years ago and my first computer had something like 4 ISA slots with 2 PCI lol
The ISA slots were in the original IBM XT. those ones were 16-bit slots, but in some old 8088/8086 machines like the XT , you could get 8 bit ones which didn't have the extra bit on the end. I think they ran at a maximum of 8Mhz. They also had a mad connector called VESA Local Bus, which could get tacked on at the end of an ISA slot, it was kinda the predecessor to PCI coming in. That was around in the 386/486 days.
Glad to see I’m not the only one who not only remembers ISA slots, but I also grew up using them with my OG Sound Blaster sound card and memory upgradable GPU (2mb max) lol 😆
@@michaelthompson9798 Man i Remember my first Sound Blaster Card. Jeez it was absolutely necessary to play Duke Nukem 3D with awesome music. Hail to the King Baby!
@@RulzSG I remember testing my 8-bit SB while setting up Warcraft. It would say "Your sound card works perfectly" over a blue ASCII screen if you set it up correctly. My college buddies were super impressed, lol. It was voice by the guy who probably voiced all the units in the game, lol. Ahh the good old days...
Dude, you made me shed man tears. Since I turned 31 this year, this vid is like a Time Machine
Yes sir, same here at 29 years old. Wonderful, splendid, finger slicing time machine memories
Fax
@@danielforeman8934 go away grandad this is for late 20s early 30s we want to remember counter strike 1.6 and getting hand me down win98 pcs from family and trying to gta3 to run on them
I'm almost 41 - it makes me feel really old. 😭😭. Titanic's in better shape than me. 🤣
For me it is the present and I am 13 year old cuz I am on a fycking 2009 mac
I REALLY wish you guys could have put more RAM back in because I am absolutely certain that all that hitching you were experiencing was from your memory being maxed out and running into pagefile swapping. I bet you could have had an actually pretty solid experience on this rig with 4GB alone, nevermind 8.
Also, 2.9Ghz is a breeze for this chip! My Q6600 ran at 3.6Ghz no problem! This thing should have been overclocked to at least that much, which would have had a massive impact on performance. Come on guys, this was almost such a cool video, do a revisit and do it justice next time!
This is just silly, but I love that it actually worked! It's surprising how well older hardware can run with "newer" GPUs. I paired an AMD X4 I got for free with a 1050-Ti and it served me well for a couple of years, wasn't exactly fast but for most games it was playable if you lowered the quality to medium. Also the fact you don't know what an ISA slot is makes me feel incredibly old.
This shows just how well the RE engine is optimized! Great job Capcom.
@@QUINTIX256 I might be wrong but the compiler probably takes care of it, some sort of fallback mechanism, if enabled. At the cost of performance.
huh?
explain more
@@perfectopubg7320 RE engine is a modern game renderer and one of rare engines that manage to run games reasonably well on a very old Intel CPU and that's alone shows how great it's well optimized!
Has nothing to do with the engine. These games run at 60 fps on base last gen consoles. It's not difficult to understand that a 60 fps game on a base PS4, which is essentially an underpowered laptop from 2012, would run actually okay on a high end PC processor from 2007. If these guys paired more RAM with the system and overclocked the CPU, the game would legit look and run better than it does on a PS4 Pro.
2:23 that case is from the 90s. In the late 2000s, it would've been black with better airflow, like the Antec 900. Maybe static LEDs.
it would have been an alienware knockoff with a blue static LED and maaaayybe a clear plastic sidepanel. And maybe even a DVD burner and media drive! lmao
Totally agree, such case in late 2000s, looks like pc ready for landfill, even in former eastblock country where I live.
@@honzaplachy5040 Oh don't write off old PCs just yet. Many old games do not work on Windows 10. Once they go to the landfill, they don't come back.
I actually still have my e8500 dual core antec 900, with 8800gt. Kinda tempted to get it running
Ah yes, early 2000s wannabe matrix/bass fishing sunglass aesthetic.... Similar to early 2020 graphics card aesthetics for some godforsaken reason
amazing cpu the q9550, was my first pc 4 years ago, overclocked it to a 3.43ghz and was pretty solid lmao. kenshi was solid aslong as you gave it time to render the new zones
i am actually surprised by the result. I used to being able to play every AAA game 10 years ago with the cheapest processor (like a 40$ amd one) and a good gpu for the time (5850). Things changed i guess
6:34 ISA slots, 16bit ISA slots to be exact. That goes back to the 1980s during the DOS days. Now I feel old.. thanks Bretthost.
I had the core 2 duo in one of my PCs. Solid unit for a long time. Until games started to really use the 4 cores, it was great.
still i guess core 2 duo can be good if you pair it with gtx 1080ti
The black slots are old expansion slots. I had an sound card connected into it. I think it is also not plug and play.
still have the q6600 and zalman 9700 cooler with a gigabyte p35 ds3r in my old pc in my closet from along time ago. Thing was a beast once you did an oc to 3ghz with stock voltage. Was awesome for the time.
Q6600 G0 @ 4GHz on a custom water loop was my jam back in the very late 2000's - great machine. Can't be bothered for all the custom cooling now but it was a great machine.
I'm currently running a Core 2 Quad Q9650 with 8GB DDR3 Ram, G41 Asus Mobo, and a GTX 1650 Super in my Plex Server. Works like a champ! haha. This was the CPU that got me back into PC gaming and building In 2016 when I went for a super budget build so I have a soft spot for it. Still rocking it in a media PC to keep the legend going 😁👌
Awesome Video!
Still bottlenecks your GPU , C2 quad even bottlenecks gt 1030
@@goregejones7248 what the meaning of bottleneck?
How much did you spend on it? I wouldnt pay more than a 100$ including the GPU. 50$ should be tops for such system.
@@caturlifelive it means cpu not cable for example , if you have a GTX 1650 GPU , and a i3 10100f your getting 120 fps , but if you play that Same game with same GPU but a old cpu like core 2 quad you will only get 40 fps that is called bottleneck
@@korana6308 all together around $300. It also has a 500gb ssd, 4tb business class hdd, custom case, lights, usb 3.0 card, AC1200 Wifi card and 650 w gold rated evga psu. It was built as a passion project. The Q9650 was the CPU that got me back into building PC's and PC gaming. So the Plex Server was a homage to it haha! It works flawlessly.
that slot is called ISA, it's in fact older than PCI, and was used for expansion, including graphics and sound cards, and also even for industrial equipment, which is the reason why is still used in some industries, which is also why some weird new motherboards have it even while supporting new cpus like intel ones
the black slot is isa :) in old days we used to plug in sound cards with build in amplifire
This video is what happens when you blow 99% of your budget on the GPU
I’m actually surprised the C2Q still did as well as it did 🤯🤩. I personally had the C2Q Q6600 and overclocked it to 3.4Ghz 🥰👍 with negligible effort …..a quick FSB O/C and a manually input cpu multiplier 🫠🤯🤩 …. Those were the good old days!!!
cut it with the emojis
Same here, ran it at 3.2 since the 400mhz fsb synced up nicely with the ram and had a ton of longevity out of it.
Turned it back on a year or so back just to mess around, turns out it could've handled 3.7 like a champ all along
q9550 with 3.85ghz oc with 1066 cl5 was a beast
I used to use a C2Q 771 mod Xeon at 3.4GHz DDR3 and a GTX 970 & 1080 just a year ago. (OC @ 4GHz, but hot)
Play all my games 1080p no problem. Only upgrade as some games I played and looking to play needed newer instruction sets.
Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that he is using only 2gb of ram when THAT is the real reason it sucked! This is not a real test, it's just a joke!
bro makes it look like the open ceiling and the dangling insulation is part of his setup, I didn't notice for a while
im sure someone has told you by now but that connector you were wondering about is called IDE, it was how hard drives were conneccted before SATA.
I'm sure someone already posted this in the chat, but the black slot at the bottom of the older motherboard is called an ISA slot (Industry Standard Architecture). Those specific slots are 16-bit ISA slots. They were prevalent on much older systems from the 80s and 90s, and fell off in the 2000's.
That motherboard and CPU inside the case are treasures.
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Bro just play an extreamely nostalgic music.
My first was Pentium II, Athlon x2, then Core 2 Duo E8400 such a good cpu and ended up with 2500K 4.5 OC for 11 years, man it's gonna be hella of an update jumpin to 13600K can't wait. 2500K Sandy Bridge was ahead of it's time.
6:44 that's an ISA slot (Industry Standard Architecture), formerly known as PC bus or AT bus depending on the bus width (8 or 16 bit). It has a throughput of 8 or 16 MB/s. Oof.
first family-shared computer in the house had those, Packard Bell... windows 98.
That was fun! You'll do a lot better with a quad core. I've done all of these experiments in the past and had similar results but not with a 3090ti!
Dude saying core 2 quad is old enough for a driving license and heres me playing ac4 and og titles in *core 2 duo* 💀
Those black slots are ISA slots, Industries Standard Architecture, they were for cards like 33.6 K modem and sound cards, 8bits mostly
I'm still rocking my 2009 PC with a X58 LGA 1366 platform. I run a Xeon 5675 cpu overclocked at 4.5ghz and a 1070Ti. A 1Tb 980 pro Nvme m.2 ssd mounted on PCie. 24gb of DDr3 ram running at 2100mhz. And 5 USB 3.2 outletz via PCie too. Don't throw away your old rigs! They can still rock today!
Just a few weeks ago I finally upgraded my 6 core system from 2010 to a hyperthreaded 6 core Ryzen 5 platform and it made me feel like I have been living in the fucking stone age. lol. New systems rape that old trash.
@@humansymphonyYeah I upgraded 6 months ago. I agree with you hahaha 🤣 I couldn't believe how fast it was the first I booted. I was delusional 😅
I have a storage server with a xeon x3210 (server version of a c2q) and I'm impressed at how well it still holds up. web browsing and other basic tasks are still totally doable. it almost shames my purchase of a 5900x
I'm watching this on a X5460, yes, they can totally hold up for stuff outside of AAA gaming.
That 100% CPU to 31% GPU was the apex moment for that processor lol.
i spotted the keychron keyboard behind you there, good choice haha :D
Wow, that mystery connector is ISA, a connector that dates back to the original IBM PC.
The Intel Q6600 was my very first CPU I used to build a PC… fun times!
The old connectors on your board are ISA slots.
Fun Fact:
The black slots below the PCI (Peripheral Component Interconnect) are what are known as ISA (Industry Standard Architecture) slots, or at least that's the term that Compaq coined for it back in the day because they didn't really want to keep calling them "PC-compatible".
I would like to see this idea revisited, I know there were late model motherboards that supported ddr3, and now im curious if there would be any uptick from changing out to ddr3.
i use the same core 2 quad q6600 and 16gb of ddr3 memory, 4x4gb
sadly i don't have a 3090 Ti, but i don't think it will make any significant change
man i ran a qx9770 core2extreme for years after the i series came out; it even outperformed the first gen i7-970 in gaming, and was on par with the second gen i7s with just a mild overclock. this just brings me so far back.
Dude a second gen i7 is way faster than any Core 2 CPU, it's not even close...
the big difference between the core 2 and behalten was basically the frontend. integrated memory controller and such.
But yes, my Core 2 Xeon performs about 60-80% of my Ivy i5, depending on the task.
I could totally see it performing on par with a locked 2nd gen i7 in single threaded tasks. But then there hasn't happened that much over the last decade.
The definition of "bottle neck"
Core 2 anything and Windows 7 were highly desired by CAD draftsman at the engineering firm I worked for in 09. We were stuck with Pentium 4 machines on XP from 2003. The 08 downturn made new PCs unobtainium for us, for years. Next machine for me was a I5-2500k in 2011. I still use that beast with a 1080TI.
You should try this with a DDR3 Motherboard, it should help with the textures loading issue, also you could try modifying .ini files on the games that didn’t run so they wont check for newer instructions on the cpu. However all and all great video.
Would love to see a follow up with a Pentium 4 2.26Ghz + ASUS P4DG1, as far as I know, that's as old as you can get with PCIE support (20 and a half years old!)
Those black slots are ISA slots. In 97 they were being phased out. I have a system from 1999 and it had 1 of those. They its no different than seeing the old PCI slot on an early 2010s board with PCIE slots.
That’s some cool, aggressive soundproofing back there sheeeeeesh 😄
From my experience trying to squeeze the last bit of performance from a core2 quad the main walls I hit is always memory controller related. Both capacity and speed.
On my rig the limit was the 800 Corsair value ram, that wouldn't do more than 946. Still enough to go to 4.25 ghz with a 9× multiplier. If I take that out and run only the 1000er crucial I could go to 4.5 with my duo or 4.75 with my quad. Clocks neither will be able to reach without crazy voltage.
The biggest mistake people nowadays make when they build a machine of that time is going with cheap G31 or G41 motherboards. Any decent P35, X38, P45 or X48 board should be able to do at least 450 FSB, and 500 aren't impossible either.
At some point I have to try and see how high my board will go, 473 FSB was already stable, but the highest the ram would do.
I just revamped my old core 2 quad Q8300 build from 2008 or 9. Paired it with a GTX 770 2GB which surprisingly runs pretty well after downclocking it slightly so it isnt bottlenecked by the CPU, and threw a SATA 256GB SSD, and 1.5TB HDD in there, 8GB of ram that I overclocked to 1033MHz, and a USB 3.0 PCIE Card so I have both the USB 3.0 Case USB ports working at 3.0 and the USB 3.0, SD card, and ESATA bay I put in there. Runs Doom 2016 max settings smooth 71FPS 1080P on my 75HZ ASUS monitor I had laying in my basement. It's surprisingly a fast little system for how old it is. It runs and looks modern, you'd never know that its old. It even plays games like GTA5 on high settings 1080P and gets 60 FPS, and I even got Rust running at like 50 on medium 1080P. Very respectable performance. I'm downloading Fortnite next to see if it'll run that (I know it will but i wanna see the FPS.)
Doom 2016 should run fine even with a stronger card than a 770, my quad is running on ,4.1 GHz and paired with a 660 ti and basically always GPU limited.
What I would like to see is how this thing performs with neural networks like for example stable diffusion.
Bruh seriously best cpu cooler ever actually the larger version. This whole video is maximum nostalgia.
Those are epic processors! I still have 2 gaming rigs with a Q9550 which I use for games which don't need AVX. One is build on a motherboard type Asus P5K which has DDR2 and a 1050Ti and the other is a Dell Optiplex 3080 which has DDR3 and a low profile Nvidia T600. Both systems still perform very good in 1080P compared to my i5-9600k with a 3060 in it. The one with DDR3 does have less stutters in some games and also is used for video editing in Pinnacle studio and Adobe Premiere. Heck I prefere that system above my dual Xeon E5-2650V4 workstation which is much to loud and power hungry compared to the time advantage in rendering and video editing tasks. If you disable spectre & meltdown in the registry you will notice an improvement (security issue though).
Got a X5460 on 4.1 GHz with a GTX 660 ti and 8 gigs DDR2 here. still a beast considering it's age.
And now I have to check what the most modern game is that still runs on it.
LOL ISA slots confound Brett. That was what there was before there was PCI. No, not PCI-E. PCI. There was also EISA slots as well. They look like APG slots. Remember them?
I had the core 2 duo on my old xp machine and it was a freaking beast for what I was using it for (minimal games and cod bops) it was powerful for it
6:52 it's ISA slot, predecessor of PCI. I had them in my 386 and even on Pentium motherboard (combined with PCI).
my first pc was actually using a q8300 and it was letting me play games up to far cry4 though not the best experience i had, had it for years so it made me all the more certain i wanted to use pc as my primary gaming platform eventially getting a 4th gen core from intel which i just recently upgraded from to a 5800x
Should have got a DDR3 board for better comparison, the RAM will hold it back quite a bit tbh!
And you have never seen an ISA slot before? :O
You knew he wasnt that smart when he looked straight at what looked like a Pentium 2 MMX badge and proceeded to say the PC was probably from the late 2000's
The Core 2 Quad supports DDR3 and PCI Express 3.0. You should retest it on a newer motherboard.
Yes.. and maybe use more than 2gb of ram.. like wtf is he even testing?!
good to know this old MOBO can hold its own agains the 3090 without shorting out or something odd happening
you should've pushed 4k, hilariously higher resolutions are a way to squeeze extra life out of an old system, I just retired my fx8350 this month after 12 years of gaming because the upper limit of my bottleneck was an r9 fury x, if I used my 5700xt @4k I might've been able to keep it going but it was time for an upgrade. but an old Quad core can still run w10 just fine.
Industry Standard Architecture (ISA) is the 16-bit internal bus of IBM PC/AT and similar computers based on the Intel 80286 and its immediate successors during the 1980s. The bus was (largely) backward compatible with the 8-bit bus of the 8088-based IBM PC, including the IBM PC/XT as well as IBM PC compatibles.
Originally referred to as the PC bus (8-bit) or AT bus (16-bit), it was also termed I/O Channel by IBM. The ISA term was coined as a retronym by competing PC-clone manufacturers in the late 1980s or early 1990s as a reaction to IBM attempts to replace the AT-bus with its new and incompatible Micro Channel architecture.
The 16-bit ISA bus was also used with 32-bit processors for several years. An attempt to extend it to 32 bits, called Extended Industry Standard Architecture (EISA), was not very successful, however. Later buses such as VESA Local Bus and PCI were used instead, often along with ISA slots on the same mainboard. Derivatives of the AT bus structure were and still are used in ATA/IDE, the PCMCIA standard, Compact Flash, the PC/104 bus, and internally within Super I/O chips.
when over locking was still fun.
stuff goes over the FSB, but the memory also sits on it, and at high clocks that will be the limiting factor. A Q9550 should easily go beyond 4 GHz, but for that 1000er ram is basically a requirement. Or well, manually tweaking ram timings and voltages.
I'd go with games until around 2016, they should have no issues with instruction extensions like AVX
My first PC had a Core 2 Duo E7500 which we bought in 2010. Used it till 2022 before upgrading to the I5 9500f.
Socket 1366 hexacores are still kicking ass. Triple channel memory keeps it surprisingly relevant.
Also, the throughput thing doesn't matter for gaming (3080ti's dont even fully sturate the bandwidth of pcie 2.0 x16 while gaming)
Still rocking a 1366 mobo, the i7 920 chip upgraded to x5650 which I bought for 10 bux XD
@@dallysinghson5569 hell yeah.
Got mine to a 4.9 all core stable and its been rock solid for a decade. If it ever dies, I bout two more for 20 bucks lol
Average prebuild PC:
Late 2000s, man that case is from the late 90's early 2000s. Core 2 Quads we had black cases. I think there was even premodded cases at that time. Around the Athlon XP days there were silver cases and a lot of quick swap HDD bays haha.
I still have a Core 2 Quad kicking around. And that same Zalman cooler.
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Gtx 480s a terrible gpu
@@ethan56123that's the point
No too new of a card.
i9-14900k and GTX 260
@@dav1dtron what about with voodoo 3? (idk about connecting)
No, it's not a good idea since the GeForce 256 was AGP, and the first GeForce PCIe was the GF 6800 Ultra if my memory serves me right.
i think the issues is the AVX instruction sets , my 2008 Quad Core Xeon was doing just fine until Apex legends....I had to get a newer CPU Because New Games Want AVX capable CPUs ,I Believe Its the way Large games are compressed and stream in assets ,they require AVX for the CPU the crunch math more efficiently
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The slow ram issue might not be just the ram but, that the system is using the pagefile which would be slower even on a newer system. Should try it with the other stick, and make sure the slots are paired.
This was awesome! What an abomination of a build LOL! I love it.
The core 2 quad isn't so bad as what's presented here, the 3090ti might just be too new to work with a non uefi bios. I think rx 400 and nvidia 10 and maybe 20 series were last to work with it. I had a problem getting the radeon drivers to install properly with a similar system and an rx550, apparently the legacy bios was the cause.
It's because he was using 2GB of ram. The CPU was not the limiting factor.
As soon as I'm putting together my next upgrade I'll give my 1060 a spin in my core 2 rig. Should be interesting to see how much it can keep up with.
Did almost exact this (Q6600 though) and 3060TI during the GPU shortage of last year. I refused to start my new build until i had a GPU in my hands so when i finally got the 3060TI, i put it into my old system. Ran fine but only marginally better performance than my old radeon HD 6950 (ofc due to PCIE 2,0 and severe cpu bottlenecking)
6:44 You have never seen an ISA slot? Man I am getting old LOL
I remember when these were the best processors you could get!
Me with core 2 duo:🗿🗿🗿
Me to ... After 1 year of your comment 🥲
My previous pc had a core 2 duo and a gt710 and before that i was trying to game on a pentium4 system with a gt8600😂
The port you are asking about is called an ISA port. it's the predecessor to PCI and was only on that board for compatibility. even in 1997 that was considered basically obsolete. But at the time they were still good for modems and sound cards ect.
they actually did make video cards for those slots as well. I think they were 8 color and 16 color, maybe even 256 colors. But if you wanted to play 3d games on it you had to have what was known as a 3d accelerator card. like the voodoo 2. I remember having two voodoo 2's and a normal video card like that with all the daisy chained vga cords. but man I could really spin that 3dfx doughnut demo.
i think the slot is for agp graphics cards or maybe the old connector for fan controllers
I've never known what it really feels like to feel old until someone points to an ISA slot and asks what it is.../cry
Also, the next time someone says the CPU doesnt matter for games, this video is being shared :)
I have a Q9300 Core 2 Quad (Yorkfield) with maximum 8GB DDR2 RAM 1066 (dual channel) and it's still going strong after all these years. It was my first Intel based PC after having been on the Athlon XP, and then Athlon 64 platform since the early 2000s.
I don't game on it anymore, but it makes a great home (bedroom) media PC and doubles as a NAS, with 9TB worth of HDDs in a drive pool, but it boots from an SATA SSD, using Win10. I only have a GTX 550 ti, but it can drive a 1080p monitor just fine for Prime Video, Spotify, RUclips, Twitch, Netflix, and local video and audio files. Though it does stutter on occasion in Netflix (only netflix) even installing a GTX 980 didn't fix that problem. My other PCs and devices have no stuttering on Netflix.
I had a E5200 overclocked to 4.5ghz with 8Gb ram it still works but it sitting in the cupboard under the stairs the my GTX 265 Black i ran this machine until 2015 when it was replaced by a FX8350 and 16gb ram and a 1050ti, I now have a 5600 with 32gb ram and a 6600xt.
I have a Q8400 that I've had for many, many years and it still runs great. I used to have it together with a hd7970 but it stopped working a few years back so put in a gtx 680. It runs everything fine. I've played many modern games on this computer with varying performance(obviously). I don't generally play AAA games since they don't appeal to me so I'm sure few of them wouldn't even work. I've played witcher 3 and it worked fine. This computer also runs satisfactory just fine. It works so never really felt the need to upgrade anything and I don't really game that much nowadays anyway.
Just the video I had to see. I'm still running on core2quad (soon to be Ryzen 9 5900x) and recently my Radeon HD5870 died, so I'm building myself a new pc. The first thing that I already have in my possesion is an RTX 3080 ti. I'm gonna have to do a bit of case cutting, since I got myself the EVGA FTW Ultra version and it's too goddamn big, but I'm determined to do it tomorrow and try it out while waiting for the rest of my new build to be delivered. Fun times!
I think the slots are called ISA,, lots of old "really old", card used this before PCI.
My PC that I replaced earlier this year was nearly identical to your spec. Mine was an Intel Q9450 OC's to 3.2Ghz, on a ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED, 8 Gig Corsair DDR2 Ram @ 1066, Asus P5Q and a NVIDIA 750Ti. Its still running till this day but is incapable because lack of AVX2 and SSE4 so i had to move on. Still it served me very well. Impressed by Zalman coolers too as mine is 13 years old and the fan is still the original with zero issues.
wait, that should do SSE4.1
DDR 2 exist?
@@4kpoison784 Yup, way back about ~16 years ago that was the thing. You also got PC3200 or DDR400 which was used in PC's around ~20 years ago. Ran that on my AMD 3200+ back in the day.
@@banshee10000 ddr 2 is older than me
@@banshee10000 oh
Your pairing of q6600 and rtx 2080ti back in the day made me determined to buy it and I bought it.
What would be the best GPU for it tho?
You paired a q6600 with a 2080 ti?! My guy he did that as a joke. Even a 1650 is probably overkill dude. Unless you mean you just got the cpu. If you did, do the tape mod so it runs at 3 ghz
Nah I just got the q6600 😂
Imagine sending this back in time
Haha, your test bench is still going strong as my GF's HTPC.
And your Zalman was my first DIY cooler too, in '04 if memeory servers, when dual Opteron was king & not that expensive.
I could immediately tell that that case was definitely not from the same era as the CPU. The Intel sticker on it is for a Pentium MMX, which came out in 1997. Even without reading the manufacturing date on the PSU, some of us will have suspected that it was also from the 90s, especially with its 200 watts only rating.
Yup! He'd have had a MUCH easier time with something from 2007.
Lol right, because if you blow all your money on such a gpu, you'd have no choice but to reuse the rest of your old system 😂
Cool video ^^
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I had a Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz OCed to 3.6 GHz with a Zalman CNPS10X Performa on a locked multiplier motherboard simply with FSB until 2016. The motherboard was a transitionary model that had both DDR2 and DDR3 RAM slots. With 8GB of DDR3 1800MHz I managed to run pretty much any game except for the most CPU intensive ones. CSGO was running great as well.