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@@sourrlemonsyes. This is diy liquid "nitrogen cooling" from wish. That gets the chips to well under freezing temperatures and close parts get a lot of condensation. Protecting the board with vaseline helps with not getting it well. Condensation doesn't apply the same way because it's just ice cubes at room temp and atmospheric pressure, but he mentioned vaseline anyway
A couple of things... 1. You could freeze water to match the diameter of that tube and have a solid block of ice instead of individual ice cubes, this should in theory give you even better temps due to a larger surface area, and with the drain being set as low as possible to drain out water should ensure proper thermal contact. 2. Instead of using a stainless steel measuring cup you could used a 100% pure copper cup and polish its base both on the inside and outside, this should allow for even better thermal contact. 3. If you don't want to deal with water, just switch to DRY ICE which is MUCH COLDER than regular ice, and with the right containment could provide even longer gaming sessions and even allow for extreme overclocking.
Dry ice gets way colder so he would probably need an actual solution to deal with condensation in the proper environment. Atp it would be better to opt into liquid nitrogen or helium even though, and ironically would probably need to start heating up parts of the motherboard in order to maintain proper functionality since they're not designed to be ran at such low temps 😭 I think people don't cool their CPUs with ice not because its inconvenient but rather because there are better alternatives when already dealing with the downsides of manual cooling.
@@jeancarlos6787 The average person including the average overlocker just needs either a massive high efficiency air cooler or water cooled system. Most don't even need a water chiller unless they are running a super high end Intel chip (IYKYK).
@@Spartan536 I agree completely, a noctua NH-D15 will outperform or match the average non custom/direct die loop and it's all really a consumer needs at a fraction of the cost and more reliable with less points of failure. For an enthusiast running a KS series chip or even just an average 14th gen intel like you mentioned it's def more efficient to run a 360mm radiator at minimum or test the limits for fun like this channel seems to be suggesting Don't get me wrong we weren't suggesting alternatives to ice such as dry ice/LN2 because the pc would require it to run optimally, it was more just to see what his take on it would be considering the average non overclocker probably hasn't really messed with anything outside of a fan/aio and its good for exposure haha
@@BrandonSmith-ru8wlapart from solar and wind power I’m pretty sure most energy still comes from steam power both coal and nuclear power plants use steam to move the turbines of course I’m no expert and may be getting this wrong
What kind of poor doesn’t own at least 3 computers? I have 6 computers; 2 desktops (one with a 4080 super) a laptop, an ipad, an iphone 15 pro max and a raspberry pi.
@@pear-zq1uj The kinda poor who is 21.000 € in debt, while also financially supporting his parents so that their debt of 12.000 € can be paid off as well. Plus the fact that I live in Germany, the nation with the most expensive electricity in Europe... 51 cents per kilowatt hour.
Imagine hooking this up to your ice despenser fridge, so that it would refill itself with ice automatically when required. You’d call it the "CryoCore ❄️🧊 Turbo-Rig"-a next-gen gaming PC harnessing the power of refrigerator-grade cubes.
then you would still need to put water in your fridge unless you make that a system as well. At that point you either completely making a whole different cooling system which is pointless.
@@neverdaddyBasically, when you say you want a drink "on the rocks" to a bartender, it means you want ice in your drink. "the rocks" being slang for ice. So the joke is that instead of asking for a drink with ice, he's asking the bartender for a CPU with ice.
My first computer was an 11 year old Mac that would get so hot that it would burn my legs, so sometimes I would stick it in the freezer to cool it down 💀
Beyond being completely impractical, there's the condensation that will occur on the measuring cup and all other services that are below the room temperature
oh okay so suddenly cold things collect moisture... let me guess you're one of these people that think heat causes metal to expand. i've traveled all over this flat planet of ours, I can assure you the physics in this experiment are completely sound. As is magic.
I think copper might melt the ice faster because of its conductivity properties, but aluminum may work well. I am thinking tungsten would work even better, although that would be expensive.
>put ice in ice cooling setup >water comes out >have water go into freezer to get frozen again >have a contraption to dispense the ice from the freezer into the cooling setup
@@delta_power3049 A freezer is too slow for it to effectively cool a working CPU. But 'storing' the 'coldness' inside of cubes, which can be produced over long times and then using it on the cpu may work better, unless the freezer produces cubes more slowly than they're being melted
If i recall correctly. Some former IBM engineer or something was building his own server at home. The problem was that he lived somewhere really hot and conventional cooling techniques werent sufficient long term p. So he came up with a similar, copper-based system that he rigged up to his server. Using an old ice-making device from an old fridge, he made a platform that could auto-feed ice to his cpu's and feeding the wastewater back into the ice maker, creating this near self-sustaining loop. He only had to top up water once a day to keep it going. Was pretty rad.
8:15 time to buy a freezer to hold a metric ton of ice, probably setting me back 800 dollars, instead of buying a 50 dollar air cooler... wait did I do it wrong?
I dont actually think having the water layer on the bottom is bad, in fact it may be beneficial. it allows a larger surface area to absorb heat, the warm water rises to the top where the ice is and then gets cooled down. It effectively acts like a heat pump. This is common in non water pump cooling called thermosiphon. Not only that, but the water itself would be at or just below freezing meaning that the thermal mass of the water would need to be heated up in order to see an increase in temperatures.
@@darkweeman133 water cooling still uses fans to cool the water I think the whole purpose of that video is to not use fans (unless I missed something)
@@hpl3158not really. The difference between -20 and 20 degrees is noticeable, but not enough to passively cool a PC. Air is a very bad conductor of heat, so you'd need a fan anyway. Also it is horribly inefficient compared to a simple cooling fan, and obviously much larger. Also in a negative °C environment you start having problems with condensation and like the video states, water is bad for a PC.
Thank you for satisfying my intrusive thoughts. These "brute force" ways of cooling down a computer are something I'd love to explore myself, but don't have the means.
You don't have to ensure the ice touches the pan surface. This is because even if there is one floating piece of ice in the tube and the rest is water, the temperature of the entire water will be 0 degrees. It will only start shooting up once all the ice melts. So in short, no need to drain the water. Read about the latent heat of water
this would be perfect for cooling a kid's gaming pc, since now all you need to do is put enough ice to last 30 mins and when the ice runs out then the kid has to either get ice himself or shut the pc down, this is a genius idea! best part is that they need to dump out the leftover water or drink it down so now the kid would have a limit to how much time he can spend before he has to touch grass
I once heard of a guy who hooked up a fridge ice-cube maker to cool a pc and when it would melt he pumped it into the ice cube maker, slow yes but ran a small server off of that.
also consider that you have to use an ice maker which uses a freezer compressor unit. you could take out the middleman by using the compressor to directly cool the computer, and your room. you could do an experiment where you go from sticking the computer into the fridge, using a window unit to blow cool air into your computer, to directly attaching the cold side of an AC to the CPU. you could make a system where a window unit would basically be directly pushing the warm air directly outside.
Is there not some advantage to the higher thermal conductivity of ice/water that the compressor would not provide? I could see some utility in a system that forms a sort of slurry of ice and water, but my major concern is being able to cool fast enough to accommodate the systems requirements
Taking your idea to the extreme - it’d be much easier to grab one of those generic $50 to $100 ice makers. You know, the kind that produces ice from regular water and releases it automatically. The ice could be directed onto the CPU, where it would melt into water, get recycled, and the ice maker would continue producing more ice. Outside of evaporation and some complexities, this could technically work, but it’s an extreme approach. As you probably know, it wouldn’t be efficient at all. Ice makers typically consume between 52 to 160 watts just to keep the system cool, and you’d still need to refill the water periodically. But I don’t think you made this video with efficiency in mind - this feels like an extreme take on your idea, and honestly, it’s kind of fun to think about.
I dont really know how ice makers work, but i would think they cool down water next to a metal element to make them. It may be possible to take appart and rearainge the machine to directly cool the cpu. Though if that were to happen; i suspect the ice machine would have a hard time operating long at max load. So you'd probably want to limit the cooling power of it in equilibrium with the cpu/gpu.
my computer science teacher: "always use an electro static wrist strap and never leave the computer plugged in while touching components" mryeester: let's put water on our running CPU
The latent heat of fusion of ice is stupidly high, it'll work great if you can manage to feed the ice continuously and remove the mess it creates. This is only a "passively cooled setup" if you omit the process of creating the ice in the first place unless it is winter and you have a ready-made supply outdoors for the cost of going out there to pick it up. Then again, I'd tend to count having to do physical labor to get the ice, put it in and dispose of melted ice as a form of active cooling.
@SpahGaming You need remotely-chilled water to make ice before you can toss it in. This is basically open-loop chilled water cooling using ice to manually transport the chilled water from the chiller to the point of use.
@@teardowndan5364 Cheap cooling idea: Live in Arctic/Antarctic climate, attach the tube up to the roof, make a mechanism that transports water from the bottom to the top, BANG! free ice free cooling
This might sound strange, but there is ice that doesnt float. There are various different kinds of water ice and they're usually just numbered like Ice 2, Ice 3, Ice 4 and so on. They are created under different temperatures and pressures than normal atmosphere pressure and temperature, making them freeze in different ways, forming vastly different ice crystals, some of which, like Ice 2 i think, are much more densely packed than regular ice and actually have a higher density than water
Even more radical solution would be to use dry ice/acetone mixture in large copper vessel. Dry ice gives you temps of about -70, and acetone, being liquid at this temperature, allows to transfer heat to dry ice more effectively.
I used to run raids with a person who *actually* used solid state cooling for their computer. It was a laptop not designed for gaming and would overheat - they used literal ice packs underneath and one on top -- that had to be rotated every 2 hours.
I used to have a laptop that overheated in the summer. It had the air vents on the bottom. So as a pc I'd have it elevated from underneath by some Lego so that there was actual airflow
A way you could automate this is by getting an ice machine found in fridges and putting one in to make the ice but you could also use that water that is generated from heating up the ice to make more ice.
Buy an ice maker, hook it up to the tube the ice falls down, the water that comes out the tube is fed back into the ice maker, which makes more ice and keeps the cycle going
"I can only game for five more ice cubes" 😂 What would also be interesting is the wattage required to cool that many ice cubes daily, in a dedicated cooler or just in your fridge/freezer with everything else. Something I'm not qualified to calculate.
I love how as you went further along with building this solution, the closer your build got to just being a typical water cooling loop. But it raises an interesting question: What's the best ice-to-water ratio for PC cooling? Could you in theory hook up a water cooled PC to an icee machine and pump cold slush through the tubes?
I had this sort of neat Idea, this is just a base idea and I haven't really deeply thought about this but here it is: The tube that you had is a good idea, but instead of driving it into a cup, it drives it into a freezer like system and the water flows into compartments similar to those trays you use to freeze water, and as I am pretty sure 2-5 hours (as he stated) is enough time for the warmer (still cold) water to freeze, it will then with some device (I'm not sure what device is used for this) be transported back into the tube. Pretty strange idea but the topic just interests me.
This is essentially a water cooled system with a compressor in the loop (your freezer) in the system. You can buy water coolers with compressors from companies like Lytron, they're used pretty often in cooling for high powered lasers. There are a few issues with using them for cooling your regular PC though: Noise: the compressor is going to be noisier than a traditional fan or water cooled system Power: this ain't an energy efficient way to do things They're too good: such a system can cool your PC to BELOW ambient temps, while this is useful for short bursts and people use it quite effectively for extreme overclocking tests, but this creates a new problem, condensation, your sub ambient PC parts are going to start condensing water out of the air like a glass of ice water left on your coffee table on a hot summer day
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its not the "can a block of ice cooling down your processor" but "why would someone want to cooling their processor with ice, and end up so enthusiast like you" 🤣🤣
I had a PC over a decade ago that had an overheating problem. I would fill an ice cube tray, freeze it, and then set it on top of the tower during gaming sessions. After a few hours I'd have a tray of water. Never felt safe putting it directly on the components though.
I just took a small puff and only tuned in at “thankfully our graphics card slots right in to the motherboard. Now we can just use a nail to secure it on the outside” and my eyes probably got wide like a cartoon character 😂😂
As someone who did a master's degree thesis on peltier modules i realize the general public does not actually understand how it works, even in the very basic level. Can't blame them tho. Sht is just like magic.
One interesting thing about melting ice is that the temperature stays the same until all the ice melted. That's why you saw that the CPU temperature stays constant for a long time.
might be able to optimize it by making your own ice. if you can create cyclinders the shape of the tube (probably slightly smaller so the water can get around the sides), you would have more ice, more cooling surface area, and more pressure on the ice at the bottom (if vertical). if you want to go really try hard, you could even cast/cut gear teeth into these cylinders in order to make a feed mechanism to solve the orientation issue
Much more expensive, but also more effective. Dry ice sublimates rather than melts, which stops the build up of liquid problem. And it's colder of course, however it might be too cold and the lack of melting might mean contact is going to be bad and therefore actually much worse than ice. It needs to effectively cool the pan.
You could still sideload your ice to the CPU by capping the open end with a spring cap that goes all the way to the CPU and a slider notched into the side to allow you to rack the spring all the way back. Then cut a hole on the top side near the end to load ice in and rack the spring back and load your rounds of ice in until the pipe is full. Or you could make it like a bolt action rifle with a magazine full of ice rounds that you rack in one by one and the spring tension holds them against the CPU until they are fully melted.
to do it at his 'home/office' setup it would end up conductive at the end because he's not a scientist.. {idk if he is or what this is my first time on the channel..my point is basically he cant be a 100% sure}
i'm pretty sure distilled water is still slightly conductive though, probably less than normal water, but still high enough to damage electronics. That's why we invented ultra pure water after all, which is used for cleaning semiconductors and other ridiculously precise stuff.
Have drains along the bottom so as the ice melts it drains out and the ice on top can continue to melt onto the cpu. Have the melted water recirculated into an ice dispencer which makes a custom cylidrical "ice cube" and drops back into the cooling tube for the cpu. Have an optical sensor so when the ice block against the cpu melts and is low enough, a new ice cylinder is dispensed to top it up and continue the cycle
You can also try setting the motherboard upside down and press the ice up on the processorso the watter will fall on the table/in a bowl, rather than on the motherboard, maybe have a spring which pushes the ice up, onto the cpu.
Now just have an ice cube maker connected to a sensor that releases ice when the level of ice in the tube drops below a certain level, and a pump to send the melted water back to the ice cube maker to be recycled into more ice.
After seeing the video, ice cooling is more practical than I thought! (still not practical) I would love to see you further experiment on the GPU and perhaps make improvements to the setup. Some suggestions I have inlcude: - using a copper pot - drilling a hole through the pot to insert the drainage tube such that water will drain sooner - using pure water instead of tap water to negate conductive risks and improve cooling
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considering my main gaming computer is small form factor, yes i would use ice to cool my cpu.
wouldn't it lead to condensation?
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@@sourrlemonsyes. This is diy liquid "nitrogen cooling" from wish. That gets the chips to well under freezing temperatures and close parts get a lot of condensation. Protecting the board with vaseline helps with not getting it well. Condensation doesn't apply the same way because it's just ice cubes at room temp and atmospheric pressure, but he mentioned vaseline anyway
I could just imagine sitting a discord call being like "Alright guys, I'm running low on ice. See you tomorrow"
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"Brb after i refill"
friday night gaming, you know what that means, gotta buy a some packs of ice
One way to cure internet addiction ice timer :)
@@whatthepick i think you missed the joke that "ice" is a term for a specific drug too
A couple of things...
1. You could freeze water to match the diameter of that tube and have a solid block of ice instead of individual ice cubes, this should in theory give you even better temps due to a larger surface area, and with the drain being set as low as possible to drain out water should ensure proper thermal contact.
2. Instead of using a stainless steel measuring cup you could used a 100% pure copper cup and polish its base both on the inside and outside, this should allow for even better thermal contact.
3. If you don't want to deal with water, just switch to DRY ICE which is MUCH COLDER than regular ice, and with the right containment could provide even longer gaming sessions and even allow for extreme overclocking.
Dry ice gets way colder so he would probably need an actual solution to deal with condensation in the proper environment. Atp it would be better to opt into liquid nitrogen or helium even though, and ironically would probably need to start heating up parts of the motherboard in order to maintain proper functionality since they're not designed to be ran at such low temps 😭
I think people don't cool their CPUs with ice not because its inconvenient but rather because there are better alternatives when already dealing with the downsides of manual cooling.
@@jeancarlos6787 why dont we use mercury for liquid cooling if it's thermal conductivity is so high
@@jeancarlos6787 The average person including the average overlocker just needs either a massive high efficiency air cooler or water cooled system.
Most don't even need a water chiller unless they are running a super high end Intel chip (IYKYK).
@@Spartan536 I agree completely, a noctua NH-D15 will outperform or match the average non custom/direct die loop and it's all really a consumer needs at a fraction of the cost and more reliable with less points of failure. For an enthusiast running a KS series chip or even just an average 14th gen intel like you mentioned it's def more efficient to run a 360mm radiator at minimum or test the limits for fun like this channel seems to be suggesting
Don't get me wrong we weren't suggesting alternatives to ice such as dry ice/LN2 because the pc would require it to run optimally, it was more just to see what his take on it would be considering the average non overclocker probably hasn't really messed with anything outside of a fan/aio and its good for exposure haha
@@jeancarlos6787it doesn’t beat arctic liquid freezer 3, like let’s be real here, a radiator at 360 beats ant bloody air cooler
Shoveling coal into the boiler on a steam train type beat.
steam engine to power a steam os computer
@@BrandonSmith-ru8wlapart from solar and wind power I’m pretty sure most energy still comes from steam power both coal and nuclear power plants use steam to move the turbines of course I’m no expert and may be getting this wrong
Seems like a solution outta the world
@@jcrossan1351 oh yea that's true, I forget about that.
@@jcrossan1351 Concentrating solar also uses steam power!
"... with your main computer..."
It's bold of you to assume that I'm privileged enough to own two computers.
Well, your smartphone is technically a computer, so...
@valkiron11
. . . 😑
What kind of poor doesn’t own at least 3 computers? I have 6 computers; 2 desktops (one with a 4080 super) a laptop, an ipad, an iphone 15 pro max and a raspberry pi.
@@pear-zq1uj
The kinda poor who is 21.000 € in debt, while also financially supporting his parents so that their debt of 12.000 € can be paid off as well.
Plus the fact that I live in Germany, the nation with the most expensive electricity in Europe... 51 cents per kilowatt hour.
@@PaulKrawitz94 I'm kidding bro, hope your situation gets better
Imagine hooking this up to your ice despenser fridge, so that it would refill itself with ice automatically when required.
You’d call it the "CryoCore ❄️🧊 Turbo-Rig"-a next-gen gaming PC harnessing the power of refrigerator-grade cubes.
Yes all he needs to install a drain and plumbing n his room 😂
What do you think the fridge does to make the ice? There's a reason just having a fan or liquid cooling (also with fans) is more power efficient
The future of gaming pcs 🧊 🧊 🧊
then you would still need to put water in your fridge unless you make that a system as well. At that point you either completely making a whole different cooling system which is pointless.
@herzeliedstein573 do you need some ice cubes, chill out a bit 🧊🧊
Bartender: What do you want?
Customer: One CPU please, on the rocks.
I don’t get it
@@neverdaddyBasically, when you say you want a drink "on the rocks" to a bartender, it means you want ice in your drink. "the rocks" being slang for ice. So the joke is that instead of asking for a drink with ice, he's asking the bartender for a CPU with ice.
@MinkYT-1 damn now that makes a lot of sense , thanks for the explanation 😸
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1000 corsair icecube
10:04 now this is a real GPU stress test...
Thats what im saying. that seems horrible LMAO
My first computer was an 11 year old Mac that would get so hot that it would burn my legs, so sometimes I would stick it in the freezer to cool it down 💀
😂😂😂😂
wait did it survive?
I did this with my old 6s all the time lmao
@NoWantForName my iPhone 6s survived nearly a decade of me doing that so I would assume so
@@_EllieLOL_ yeah, but that thing was waterproof if I'm correct and it doesn't have fans
Beyond being completely impractical, there's the condensation that will occur on the measuring cup and all other services that are below the room temperature
oh okay so suddenly cold things collect moisture... let me guess you're one of these people that think heat causes metal to expand.
i've traveled all over this flat planet of ours, I can assure you the physics in this experiment are completely sound. As is magic.
@@scottbirkinshaw2009uhh heat does cause metal to expand that is legit common knowledge idk why you assume that’s a myth lol
@@Ashthecyberwolf I think you replied to the wrong person.
Instead of steel cup
Should've used a copper or alluminium can
Was thinking the same.
I think copper might melt the ice faster because of its conductivity properties, but aluminum may work well. I am thinking tungsten would work even better, although that would be expensive.
Ye my be only the bottom should be copper cus te room temperature can melt the ice from the side
@@Sdawg01 If it melts the ice faster, then it's pulling heat out of the processor faster.
@@Sivanot he never tried overclocking the CPU so it's kinda pointless. The CPU was already super cold for a gaming workload.
>put ice in ice cooling setup
>water comes out
>have water go into freezer to get frozen again
>have a contraption to dispense the ice from the freezer into the cooling setup
Wait this is genius
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
If you have a freezer, just use that on the computer. There is no need to transfer the heat so indirectly.
@@delta_power3049 A freezer is too slow for it to effectively cool a working CPU. But 'storing' the 'coldness' inside of cubes, which can be produced over long times and then using it on the cpu may work better, unless the freezer produces cubes more slowly than they're being melted
What about having the cold winter temperatures cool down your pc while you game LOL😂
Chuck the PC under a porch in northern Canada.
I had an idea yesterday to have your PC outside with a top cover that moves whenever multiple apis say that the temp is cold and won’t rain or snow
Actually I sort of do that. I turn down the heating when gaming because the PC puts out a noticeable amount of heat.
@@StanleytheCat-v8z Give it an A-Frame external housing to keep it dry
@@LandonEmmawhy are you everywhere?
This has already been done like 20 years ago, using a fridge motor. It's nice to see rookies revisting old idea's
elaborate
If i recall correctly. Some former IBM engineer or something was building his own server at home. The problem was that he lived somewhere really hot and conventional cooling techniques werent sufficient long term p. So he came up with a similar, copper-based system that he rigged up to his server. Using an old ice-making device from an old fridge, he made a platform that could auto-feed ice to his cpu's and feeding the wastewater back into the ice maker, creating this near self-sustaining loop. He only had to top up water once a day to keep it going. Was pretty rad.
why are you so mad in all your comments
Next video: I cooked my pc with dry ice.
The video after that : I uncooked my dry ice with pc
@@Jaysonnnnnnnnnnnnnn The video after that: I froze my PC with fire.
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And the next video: My PC is cooked 🥶
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8:15 time to buy a freezer to hold a metric ton of ice, probably setting me back 800 dollars, instead of buying a 50 dollar air cooler... wait did I do it wrong?
Pump the water into a ice maker
@@HaydenMercado-nb6itTHATS SO SMART THOUGH
I dont actually think having the water layer on the bottom is bad, in fact it may be beneficial. it allows a larger surface area to absorb heat, the warm water rises to the top where the ice is and then gets cooled down. It effectively acts like a heat pump. This is common in non water pump cooling called thermosiphon. Not only that, but the water itself would be at or just below freezing meaning that the thermal mass of the water would need to be heated up in order to see an increase in temperatures.
Ice pucks being swapped in and out with recycling water system 💀
Funny I think he unintentionally took advantage of this by not putting the hole at the bottom of the tube but at the top of the measuring cup.
@@Dargin By having the hole relatively high up as well, it gives the warmer water a chance to rise and be drained leaving the colder water behind.
At that point, you might as well go with a water cooling system
@@darkweeman133 water cooling still uses fans to cool the water I think the whole purpose of that video is to not use fans (unless I missed something)
"Why aren't PC's cooled with ice?"
"Because ice doesn't stay ice."
why arent pcs just put in a freezer so the ice stays frozen ?
@hpl3158 Because PC parts get hot, often too hot for a conventional freezer to keep the ice from melting at its contact points.
@ nah i meant just put in a freezer normally wouldt the pc stay cold enough
@@hpl3158 I mean in that case it would work, as long as you make sure no ice buildup is in there with it.
@@hpl3158not really. The difference between -20 and 20 degrees is noticeable, but not enough to passively cool a PC. Air is a very bad conductor of heat, so you'd need a fan anyway. Also it is horribly inefficient compared to a simple cooling fan, and obviously much larger. Also in a negative °C environment you start having problems with condensation and like the video states, water is bad for a PC.
Thank you for satisfying my intrusive thoughts. These "brute force" ways of cooling down a computer are something I'd love to explore myself, but don't have the means.
You don't have to ensure the ice touches the pan surface. This is because even if there is one floating piece of ice in the tube and the rest is water, the temperature of the entire water will be 0 degrees. It will only start shooting up once all the ice melts. So in short, no need to drain the water. Read about the latent heat of water
this would be perfect for cooling a kid's gaming pc, since now all you need to do is put enough ice to last 30 mins and when the ice runs out then the kid has to either get ice himself or shut the pc down, this is a genius idea! best part is that they need to dump out the leftover water or drink it down so now the kid would have a limit to how much time he can spend before he has to touch grass
or hit 100°C and shut down automatically
Or keep trying to turn it back on after it overheats and damage the cpu
and if you're lucky you get a jackpot of having less kid
I would just be persistent and just game on until pc fries itself and voila no PC and an angry parent
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I once heard of a guy who hooked up a fridge ice-cube maker to cool a pc and when it would melt he pumped it into the ice cube maker, slow yes but ran a small server off of that.
also consider that you have to use an ice maker which uses a freezer compressor unit.
you could take out the middleman by using the compressor to directly cool the computer, and your room.
you could do an experiment where you go from sticking the computer into the fridge, using a window unit to blow cool air into your computer, to directly attaching the cold side of an AC to the CPU. you could make a system where a window unit would basically be directly pushing the warm air directly outside.
Is there not some advantage to the higher thermal conductivity of ice/water that the compressor would not provide? I could see some utility in a system that forms a sort of slurry of ice and water, but my major concern is being able to cool fast enough to accommodate the systems requirements
Its never wrong to experiment further no matter how ridiculous its about, that's where new innovations come in!
Use a copper pot with insulating tape to avoid short circuits for better heat transfer
7:46 he finally answers the question
Taking your idea to the extreme - it’d be much easier to grab one of those generic $50 to $100 ice makers. You know, the kind that produces ice from regular water and releases it automatically. The ice could be directed onto the CPU, where it would melt into water, get recycled, and the ice maker would continue producing more ice.
Outside of evaporation and some complexities, this could technically work, but it’s an extreme approach. As you probably know, it wouldn’t be efficient at all. Ice makers typically consume between 52 to 160 watts just to keep the system cool, and you’d still need to refill the water periodically.
But I don’t think you made this video with efficiency in mind - this feels like an extreme take on your idea, and honestly, it’s kind of fun to think about.
I dont really know how ice makers work, but i would think they cool down water next to a metal element to make them. It may be possible to take appart and rearainge the machine to directly cool the cpu. Though if that were to happen; i suspect the ice machine would have a hard time operating long at max load. So you'd probably want to limit the cooling power of it in equilibrium with the cpu/gpu.
@SpahGaming
At that point just use a pertierelement
CPU still melt more amount of Ice than Icemaker re-frozen the melted-ice into yet another Ice.
@@rashidiswHow about more icemaker like lets say it collect from 3 different ice maker while it keep recycling the ice
This would be quite effective if there was an ice maker that could make ice as quick as the PC would melt it
next video: Why aren't PCs cooled with SOLID NITROGEN?
True, why not go start a company?
But he can’t inhale used nitrogen though😂
@@nighwargallogrifuvapwell you can’t inhale water either.
@@xyrkzes You can drink it like he did in the video at least. Too much nitrogen can cause asphyxiation if your ventilation is bad.
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my computer science teacher: "always use an electro static wrist strap and never leave the computer plugged in while touching components"
mryeester: let's put water on our running CPU
Actually you do really want to leave the computer plugged in, just turn the psu off. That keeps the computer grounded
The latent heat of fusion of ice is stupidly high, it'll work great if you can manage to feed the ice continuously and remove the mess it creates.
This is only a "passively cooled setup" if you omit the process of creating the ice in the first place unless it is winter and you have a ready-made supply outdoors for the cost of going out there to pick it up. Then again, I'd tend to count having to do physical labor to get the ice, put it in and dispose of melted ice as a form of active cooling.
dull argument. Just because you need to reload ice occasionally doesnt nececerely make it active cooling.
@SpahGaming You need remotely-chilled water to make ice before you can toss it in.
This is basically open-loop chilled water cooling using ice to manually transport the chilled water from the chiller to the point of use.
@@teardowndan5364 Cheap cooling idea: Live in Arctic/Antarctic climate, attach the tube up to the roof, make a mechanism that transports water from the bottom to the top, BANG! free ice free cooling
My friend when he can't buy Cpu Cooler: 💀
1:14 next time, try seeing if you can cook something in the little cup😋
Why aren't pcs cooled with goulash 😂
This might sound strange, but there is ice that doesnt float. There are various different kinds of water ice and they're usually just numbered like Ice 2, Ice 3, Ice 4 and so on. They are created under different temperatures and pressures than normal atmosphere pressure and temperature, making them freeze in different ways, forming vastly different ice crystals, some of which, like Ice 2 i think, are much more densely packed than regular ice and actually have a higher density than water
2:23 my brain: java?
same
w and v make different sounds
In some reasons w can make v but normally thats not so common@@si.ari.06
@@si.ari.06 i have poor speakers
@@si.ari.06depends on the language
Even more radical solution would be to use dry ice/acetone mixture in large copper vessel. Dry ice gives you temps of about -70, and acetone, being liquid at this temperature, allows to transfer heat to dry ice more effectively.
I used to run raids with a person who *actually* used solid state cooling for their computer. It was a laptop not designed for gaming and would overheat - they used literal ice packs underneath and one on top -- that had to be rotated every 2 hours.
I used to have a laptop that overheated in the summer. It had the air vents on the bottom. So as a pc I'd have it elevated from underneath by some Lego so that there was actual airflow
"tell me if you would use ice to fool your computer"
My dude im afraid to even use water cooling for my computer unless it was insured
Of COURSE i want to see you ice cool the GPU. I'll like that video too I bet!
Well it's obvious he's already doing or is actually finished
A way you could automate this is by getting an ice machine found in fridges and putting one in to make the ice but you could also use that water that is generated from heating up the ice to make more ice.
Buy an ice maker, hook it up to the tube the ice falls down, the water that comes out the tube is fed back into the ice maker, which makes more ice and keeps the cycle going
Can you just use snowball instead of ice cubes ??
Why not try with dry ice?
u got a point
Pretty sure a steady supply of water ice is simpler…
The fumes would build up in enclosed PCs…
u just described overclockers uk tournaments 😅
Expensive
"I can only game for five more ice cubes" 😂
What would also be interesting is the wattage required to cool that many ice cubes daily, in a dedicated cooler or just in your fridge/freezer with everything else. Something I'm not qualified to calculate.
Melted water?🤔 3:49
You didn't know? If water melts, it becomes... it... becomes........ I give up. Nothing comes up.
“Sorry boys can’t play today. I don’t got ice cubes today
I UNDERSTAND IT NOW! 4:20
I UNDERSTAND IT NOW 💯⛹️
I love how as you went further along with building this solution, the closer your build got to just being a typical water cooling loop.
But it raises an interesting question: What's the best ice-to-water ratio for PC cooling? Could you in theory hook up a water cooled PC to an icee machine and pump cold slush through the tubes?
I had this sort of neat Idea, this is just a base idea and I haven't really deeply thought about this but here it is:
The tube that you had is a good idea, but instead of driving it into a cup, it drives it into a freezer like system and the water flows into compartments similar to those trays you use to freeze water, and as I am pretty sure 2-5 hours (as he stated) is enough time for the warmer (still cold) water to freeze, it will then with some device (I'm not sure what device is used for this) be transported back into the tube. Pretty strange idea but the topic just interests me.
This is essentially a water cooled system with a compressor in the loop (your freezer) in the system. You can buy water coolers with compressors from companies like Lytron, they're used pretty often in cooling for high powered lasers. There are a few issues with using them for cooling your regular PC though:
Noise: the compressor is going to be noisier than a traditional fan or water cooled system
Power: this ain't an energy efficient way to do things
They're too good: such a system can cool your PC to BELOW ambient temps, while this is useful for short bursts and people use it quite effectively for extreme overclocking tests, but this creates a new problem, condensation, your sub ambient PC parts are going to start condensing water out of the air like a glass of ice water left on your coffee table on a hot summer day
@ so essentially you’re saying that it’s too good to be used for regular gaming lol.
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PC cooling enthusiasts that cooled their PCs with liquid nitrogen: "am i a joke to you?"
5:13 what happened to the cpu
its not the "can a block of ice cooling down your processor" but "why would someone want to cooling their processor with ice, and end up so enthusiast like you" 🤣🤣
your gpu's vram will cook you'd need some sorta square pan for the ice and thermal pads
A copper plate, with a sealed container on top where the ice goes in. Seems like a "reasonable" approach.
"I remember the old days... when we still used paste... now everyone wants a fistful of ice."
4:31 bro just reminded me of the old Call Of Duty 2 training.... Those were the days
I had a PC over a decade ago that had an overheating problem. I would fill an ice cube tray, freeze it, and then set it on top of the tower during gaming sessions. After a few hours I'd have a tray of water. Never felt safe putting it directly on the components though.
1:57 i see that you’re a puffer fan, respect…
This is a comment I can relate to.
No respect but no disrespect
I just took a small puff and only tuned in at “thankfully our graphics card slots right in to the motherboard. Now we can just use a nail to secure it on the outside” and my eyes probably got wide like a cartoon character 😂😂
1:59 I did not expect bro to be watching BigPuffer
Man's got good taste.
Indubitably, my boys
boi watchin peak
real, that was a very unexpected surprise
Bruhh
Next "Can a Freezer cool your computer"
Proceeds to put the whole computer in a freezer.
Also why not try this with a peltier module?
because peltier too need cooling
As someone who did a master's degree thesis on peltier modules i realize the general public does not actually understand how it works, even in the very basic level. Can't blame them tho. Sht is just like magic.
"Can you use a hamster running on a wheel to generate enough electricity to power your PC in the place of a PSU?" next.
9:40 Made me laugh so hard
Coming up next : Liquid nitrogen cooled CPU
One interesting thing about melting ice is that the temperature stays the same until all the ice melted.
That's why you saw that the CPU temperature stays constant for a long time.
might be able to optimize it by making your own ice. if you can create cyclinders the shape of the tube (probably slightly smaller so the water can get around the sides), you would have more ice, more cooling surface area, and more pressure on the ice at the bottom (if vertical). if you want to go really try hard, you could even cast/cut gear teeth into these cylinders in order to make a feed mechanism to solve the orientation issue
use dry ice with this setup
Much more expensive, but also more effective. Dry ice sublimates rather than melts, which stops the build up of liquid problem. And it's colder of course, however it might be too cold and the lack of melting might mean contact is going to be bad and therefore actually much worse than ice. It needs to effectively cool the pan.
"Why aren't PCs cooled with ICE?"
sir liquid nitrogen called and would like you to respond lol.
Distilled water is non-conductive.
Also, fill the pot with water and just put the PC into a freezer.
Would distilled water still cause rust and stuff?
Corrosion probably wouldn’t be too significant tho
“Water is great at conducting electricity” had to stop right there
You sound and talk exactly like Marques Brownlee, especially starting at 9:00.
Does he? I beg to differ
No he does not
You could still sideload your ice to the CPU by capping the open end with a spring cap that goes all the way to the CPU and a slider notched into the side to allow you to rack the spring all the way back. Then cut a hole on the top side near the end to load ice in and rack the spring back and load your rounds of ice in until the pipe is full.
Or you could make it like a bolt action rifle with a magazine full of ice rounds that you rack in one by one and the spring tension holds them against the CPU until they are fully melted.
5:30 yes, yes i did see something
imagine kids sneaking to the fridge to grab more ice cubes to play at night
I have a genuine question :- why can't you freeze distilled water since distilled water is non-conductive
to do it at his 'home/office' setup it would end up conductive at the end because he's not a scientist.. {idk if he is or what this is my first time on the channel..my point is basically he cant be a 100% sure}
i'm pretty sure distilled water is still slightly conductive though, probably less than normal water, but still high enough to damage electronics.
That's why we invented ultra pure water after all, which is used for cleaning semiconductors and other ridiculously precise stuff.
@@I_have_no_username it cannot conduct electricity at ALL. It is one of the best inductors according to google.
Water still can corrode metallic components
Speedrunning games would be interesting.
"I can beat the game with five cubes of ice."
4:16 "I understand it now" 💀
imagine talking to your homies "yo hold on i gotta reload the ice in my PC"
7:00 no you did NOT DID THAT!!! Brroootherrrrr ewwww :S
Well… it’s just water? Not even contaminated?
@@Aureus_vonastreayou don't seem to understand
@@rajbir.soc0Explain brother im curious
@@rajbir.soc0 this is not Southeast Asia bruh
@@rajbir.soc0 kindly explain then
Playing Call of Duty 2 is such a flex. It never goes on sale for more than 25% off. This homie is loaded.
Because Ice melts into water and pcs no like water.
Ice is actually very good at cooling down a PC until it’s not haha
Have drains along the bottom so as the ice melts it drains out and the ice on top can continue to melt onto the cpu. Have the melted water recirculated into an ice dispencer which makes a custom cylidrical "ice cube" and drops back into the cooling tube for the cpu. Have an optical sensor so when the ice block against the cpu melts and is low enough, a new ice cylinder is dispensed to top it up and continue the cycle
"bro hop on"
"I can't man, i only got 300ml ice left"
We got Air Cooler, We got Water Cooler, We got Air Water Cooler..... Now we got Ice Cooler
I love how in-depth this goes... it's like one shower thought after another... except in the end it actually works LOL
What about dry ice?
"why were you afk"
"sorry guys had to refill my cpu cooler"
You can also try setting the motherboard upside down and press the ice up on the processorso the watter will fall on the table/in a bowl, rather than on the motherboard, maybe have a spring which pushes the ice up, onto the cpu.
5:31 Youre not slick buddy, we see that CPU murder scene. Youre under arrest
Time to design an ice dispenser like the one in the fridge to attach to this 😂
I sometimes use ice on the apple icon on the back on my iPhone XS and it goes from hot to cold
Now just have an ice cube maker connected to a sensor that releases ice when the level of ice in the tube drops below a certain level, and a pump to send the melted water back to the ice cube maker to be recycled into more ice.
You can a use aluminum bucket if you want even more thermal connectivity!
Imagine brining your computer to space. Unlimited temperature control
you should put an egg into the cup instead so you have a snack when your pc needs a break
really brings a new meaning to "water-cooled pc"
After seeing the video, ice cooling is more practical than I thought! (still not practical) I would love to see you further experiment on the GPU and perhaps make improvements to the setup. Some suggestions I have inlcude:
- using a copper pot
- drilling a hole through the pot to insert the drainage tube such that water will drain sooner
- using pure water instead of tap water to negate conductive risks and improve cooling