Gulda plays Bach Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

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  • @SlateFx
    @SlateFx 2 года назад +38

    Probably the best 10 minutes on the whole of RUclips. Transcendent performance, one of those that you keep coming back to in awe.

    • @dr797-w2b
      @dr797-w2b 5 месяцев назад

      Just bookmarked it. In other words, yes; I agree.

    • @iguarni
      @iguarni 5 месяцев назад +1

      For sure. Only Sergio Fiorentino on già level!

    • @erichkusterer6339
      @erichkusterer6339 2 месяца назад +1

      One of the greatest pianists ever !!! R.I.P

  • @answersquestioned
    @answersquestioned 15 лет назад +39

    I love how he keeps the momentum going from the first to the last note, creating a beautiful flow throughout. A most satisfying performance

  • @051963mf
    @051963mf 10 лет назад +70

    Among the coolest pianist ever, Gulda was so relax in his mastery of the instrument...awesome interpretation.

    • @yoshikazutanaka7573
      @yoshikazutanaka7573 2 года назад

      OAKLEYひきこもりじょしかいとジャジャメン八幡OAKLEY?

    • @marciaflyte8978
      @marciaflyte8978 2 года назад +3

      Couldn't carry Glenn Gould's jockstrap..lol

    • @051963mf
      @051963mf 2 года назад

      @@marciaflyte8978 make comments only when you really know about the subject, in other words, keep your morones to yourself. Good bye.

    • @espressonoob
      @espressonoob Год назад +1

      @@marciaflyte8978 unintelligent comment

    • @alexanderurban4637
      @alexanderurban4637 Год назад +1

      Gould surely had a good technique, but lacked some musicalty and warmth, except his singing along obviously

  • @germancardoso3587
    @germancardoso3587 5 лет назад +19

    One of the greatest interpreters of Bach and Mozart !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Aapton
    @Aapton 12 лет назад +9

    omg that fugue, it drives me crazy. So endlessly beautiful.

  • @Stukov16
    @Stukov16 15 лет назад +19

    I really admire his easiness at playing! His fingers move so light as if there was no obstacle, no physical barrier between notes and chords. (I'm a pianist)

  • @たなかとしあき-b2q
    @たなかとしあき-b2q 10 месяцев назад +4

    親友のチック・コリアが不世出の音楽家グルダに贈った言葉が有ります。「グルダの精神は音楽の創造性と冒険の精神です。彼はア−ティストとして如何なるカテゴリーにも限定されないだろう。彼は観客や友人を多くの異例の場所に連れて行きましたが、いつも人生と新しいアプローチの為のマジックタッチとフレア(自己表現)を持っていました。彼のインスピレーションは今、私たちと一緒に有り、永遠に残っています」すばらしい的を得た言葉ですね😊

  • @10tose
    @10tose 8 лет назад +40

    BACH IS THE BEST COMPOSER FOR ALL AGES ,FOREVER IN MUSIC HISTORY !!!

    • @RINCO65
      @RINCO65 8 лет назад +7

      I absolutely agree!!!!!!

    • @kekake11
      @kekake11 8 лет назад +4

      i agree that bach is absolutely perfact, but not the best in music history

    • @ruperttmls7985
      @ruperttmls7985 7 лет назад +5

      The Best!

    • @MattWeisherComposer
      @MattWeisherComposer 6 лет назад

      Todor Trajcevski Bach laid the framework for the best to appear!

    • @tarquin161234
      @tarquin161234 6 лет назад +6

      "i agree that bach is absolutely perfact, but not the best in music history"
      Who's better in your opinion?

  • @taviona
    @taviona 15 лет назад +8

    Absolutely, I love the steady pulse it has.

  • @erichkusterer6339
    @erichkusterer6339 2 месяца назад +3

    Jenseits aller Kritik, pure Musik, die eine Geschichte erzählt. Mueheloeses Spiel, das alle Schwierigkeiten vergessen lässt.

  • @wolfgangdraxler3177
    @wolfgangdraxler3177 4 года назад +5

    Mind blowing music and artist! Thank you so much indeed!

  • @mach37
    @mach37 22 дня назад

    I watched this after watching Schiff's 2013 YT performance, and conclude that Gulda has won my heart. The first 3 minutes was a bit faster than I cared for, but the amazing change about 3 minutes in - those thunderous organic chords ! continuing to the end of the Fantasy. And the fugue was perfect.

  • @Gotteskind17
    @Gotteskind17 5 месяцев назад +2

    9:44 Holds on to piano like he is holding for his life. He doesn't want to leave the piano. They are one.🇧🇷💕

  • @n64wilbert
    @n64wilbert 13 лет назад +7

    What a great interpretation of this composition!!!

  • @thomasmrf.brunner
    @thomasmrf.brunner 11 лет назад +21

    Never heard this Fugue - 5:34 - with such incredible power ! Very nice.:)

  • @asx7121
    @asx7121 2 года назад +4

    This "Jazz Bach" is simply fantastic!

  • @NeuroBoy314
    @NeuroBoy314 10 лет назад +6

    Amazing! Incredible! I can watch this video all day!

  • @gijsschubert7901
    @gijsschubert7901 6 лет назад +7

    Incredible jazzy playing in the last 2 minutes, fantastic!!! See him jumping & swinging on his stool from 8:40 onwards, wow. How does he do it??!!

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 7 лет назад +15

    I love the precision of the fugue. And he gets so absorbed in the fugue, like Gould used to do. It's almost like he is just watching his hands playing by themselves. And while it something probably only a pianist would notice, his pedaling is superb.

    • @aimilios439
      @aimilios439 6 лет назад +2

      I thought you were an organist, not a pianist. :Ρ
      You are right though...

  • @pianogus
    @pianogus 14 лет назад +7

    Not only does he not hum, he plays like a genius. Thanks for posting this vintage Gulda video.

    • @tsundoku5733
      @tsundoku5733 3 года назад +3

      "Not only does he not hum" LOL!
      That reminds me of a programme I heard on BBC 4 years ago, where a presenter said that a Gould recorded had once been introduced on the radio with the words, "Bach's English Suites, played by Glenn Gould, piano and vocals".

  • @789armstrong
    @789armstrong 4 года назад +7

    a masterful interpretation.

  • @OldPannonian
    @OldPannonian Год назад +6

    Oh yes! Another master of the keyboard. It is electrifying to listen to such a performance.

  • @mashtali1
    @mashtali1 7 лет назад +10

    this is a wonderful version of this music.

  • @marcela77777
    @marcela77777 3 года назад +4

    With what ease......
    Brilliant performance, Maestro ! ❤️🌹❤️

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 6 лет назад +15

    The Scarlatti like Fantasy is so unlike Bach, one could almost believe it was written by someone else, like perhaps one of his students. But the fugue! The fugue practically screams "Bach!".

  • @pukupukuss3864
    @pukupukuss3864 9 лет назад +6

    素晴らしいとしか言いようがないです。ここでグルダの演奏に出会えるとは思いませんでした。感動です!!

  • @dianalynn3600
    @dianalynn3600 8 лет назад +6

    Wow. Speechless here. That's a maestro!

  • @Marco-Lo-Muscio
    @Marco-Lo-Muscio 15 лет назад +5

    Marvellous Bach from Gulda!!
    Thanks for this Video.

  • @soulechene
    @soulechene 6 лет назад +4

    Je ne sais plus combien de fois j'ai écouté cette fantaisie chromatique et fugue de Bach. Une splendeur en soi au niveau de la composition. Les versions sont innombrables j'en connais quelques unes que je place pour ma part parmi les meilleures, mais tout cela est très subjectif. En fin de compte, je me tourne toujours vers cette interprétation de Gulda qui est magnifique.

  • @KremIsis
    @KremIsis 9 лет назад +19

    A sincere thank you for uploading this extraordinary performance. He's my beloved, my absolute favorite Bach's player.

  • @sumirechan324
    @sumirechan324 4 года назад +3

    Amazing and beautiful !!!!

  • @lambaman
    @lambaman 14 лет назад +7

    When the Fugue starts....it's....MAGICAL

  • @renzomosetti7532
    @renzomosetti7532 8 лет назад +17

    Just one thing for the ones who denigrate this performance. Gulda was one of the top pianists of that period . The counterpoint in the fugue, despite the fastness, is perfect. As a Bach performer, his recording of the Well Tempered Clavier is one of the best ever recorded ( second only to Richter). If you listen to the "original" version on the harpsichord, you will understand that the metronome is not exaggerated.

    • @nihilistlemon1995
      @nihilistlemon1995 7 лет назад

      Renzo Mosetti except that metronome never existed at the time of Bach and people can play on whatever Tempo they like in my view . 😝

    • @TheHanslick
      @TheHanslick 6 лет назад

      I hope you have Karl Richter on your mind

    • @michelbignault7221
      @michelbignault7221 5 лет назад

      EdHanslick nn

    • @marksmith3947
      @marksmith3947 11 месяцев назад

      Second only to Richter is a low blow. Richter played beautifully but his Bach rarely seemed on point musically---not to be imitated

  • @PaulinaColombia
    @PaulinaColombia 13 лет назад +6

    Can you have a heart attack from hearing this? Amazing!

  • @MgcMrMistoffelees
    @MgcMrMistoffelees 14 лет назад +5

    This guy is a genius. In the black-and-white era, he wore black-and-white. When a colar TV was available, he wore colorfully.

    • @mookiesdream1
      @mookiesdream1 5 месяцев назад

      I remember when everything was in black and white. Then, The Wizard of Oz came out and, lo and behold, man discovered color. LOL

  • @daveydoodle52
    @daveydoodle52 2 месяца назад

    The fugue voices - amazing artistry of making two hands sound like four.

  • @thomasramdasvoegeli
    @thomasramdasvoegeli 5 лет назад +3

    Himmlisch. Ich spielte dieses Werk auch, kann daher sämtliche Finessen besonders geniessen. Gerade auch gefällt mir sehr gut, wie er das Cembalostück bachgerecht UND Klaviergerecht spielt. Er nutzt Fähigkeiten des Bösendorfers, welche ein Cembalo nicht leisten kann so, dass es immer noch Bach ist. Wetten, Bach hat seine helle Freude!

  • @charliekonig85
    @charliekonig85 10 лет назад +13

    Dieser Anschlag-fantastisch!

  • @Guarniz
    @Guarniz 14 лет назад +5

    este hombre nos demuestra que hay Bach más alla de Glenn Gould...this man demonstrates us that there is Bach beyond Glenn Gould...

    • @OldPannonian
      @OldPannonian Год назад

      I always thought so, during my 80 years...

  • @federicozukanovic3358
    @federicozukanovic3358 10 лет назад +5

    Excellent! Bravo!

  • @albertoramos7293
    @albertoramos7293 2 года назад +1

    Gracias Maestro por hacer grande a Marta Argerich. Orgullo.

  • @TheCitybike
    @TheCitybike 14 лет назад +2

    Great interpretation!!

  • @kevnote
    @kevnote 10 лет назад +2

    interesting & thought-provoking comments from almost all on this piece. That's a first for me w' RUclips. Read/scrolled down about 6 pages. Bravo for the input/output!

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 3 года назад +2

    It's interesting in the fugue, he starts almost like he is just playing by rote, looking around the stage, distracted. But by half way into the fugue, he becomes like Gould, almost nose to the keyboard, conducting his hands with his eyes, fully engrossed.

  • @kapoios1996
    @kapoios1996 11 лет назад +1

    it could not be more ahead of its time!

  • @wallacechoi7610
    @wallacechoi7610 7 лет назад +1

    beautiful piano sound

  • @The55555SSSSS
    @The55555SSSSS 14 лет назад +2

    Bach's music added colour to this Black & White video!

  • @circycle
    @circycle 2 года назад

    Amazing! Amazing!!!

  • @WhatsACreel
    @WhatsACreel 12 лет назад +2

    Amazing

  • @peteacher52
    @peteacher52 14 лет назад +64

    So, what do all the learned armchair critics think that Bach would have done if he had been seated at the great Bosendorfer Imperial as seen in this video? Left the pedals untouched and tried to play it like a harpsichord?
    Yeah right! He would have loved it and exploited its resources to the maximum and in a way that would leave our jaws agape!

    • @tarquin161234
      @tarquin161234 6 лет назад +8

      True, but then he might have written music more adapted to that, and might still have said his music is better suited for no pedal because that was what he composed for.

    • @dada78641
      @dada78641 4 года назад +20

      @@tarquin161234 I think that's unlikely tbh. There's no evidence Bach was a purist with regard to how you played his pieces. A lot of his pieces leave the exact instrument ambiguous, and he regularly reworked his compositions for other instruments. It's likely he would've been fine with harpsichord, clavichord or organ for most of his pieces, or he would've spent more time (or really, any time at all) specifying these things. One of his earliest biographers (Philipp Spitta) says he would've very likely been inspired by the grand piano had he lived to know of its existence, on the basis that he was not completely satisfied with either the clavichord's lack of volume or the harpsichord's lack of dimension.
      Personally I feel his music totally transcends the concept of instrumentation to begin with. You could play his music on a Game Boy and it'll still sound great.

    • @emilianoturazzi
      @emilianoturazzi 4 года назад +3

      Bach wouldn't have used any pedal because it is uneffective with counterpoint - it is not a mechanical or technical matter, but a musical one.
      When he wanted sustained tones he simply wrote long tones... that resonating aura is not so good for his aestetics

    • @PointyTailofSatan
      @PointyTailofSatan 3 года назад +1

      Bach was actually quite famous for exploring the abilities of an instrument, and pushing instruments to their limits. That's why he was often asked to test new church organs. But also keep in mind that much of Bach's more advanced music depends more on melodic and harmonic development than dynamics. This is partly why almost all Bach scores have no dynamic markings.

    • @ArtesAlternadas
      @ArtesAlternadas 3 года назад +1

      @@dada78641 It's more the question of how...

  • @b00i00d
    @b00i00d 14 лет назад +1

    There's too much noise in the comments, when all there should be is: Beautiful!

  • @FrancescoDeBiasi
    @FrancescoDeBiasi 13 лет назад +4

    @ycooreman Interpretation is a matter of taste. A good interpretation needs especially coherence; then, we can like more or less some interpretations, but you can't say "this one is the best", you should say instead "I feel better with this", because Gulda, Gould, Tureck, Bernstein, Stravinskij and so on are all musicians of an extremely high level. They don't actually make mistakes, they make choices. Unless a lack of coherence in their Interpretations, they are all wonderful.

  • @nameledaname6432
    @nameledaname6432 5 лет назад +3

    Браво за великолепную подборку))

  • @mariaboutzouka4209
    @mariaboutzouka4209 9 лет назад

    Beautiful 🎶🎶🎶💕🎹🎹🎹👍💞
    I want to play it in diploma!🎵🎵🎵

  • @Aapton
    @Aapton 14 лет назад +1

    this is incredible

  • @classicalalways
    @classicalalways 14 лет назад +2

    A very interesting performance, and what a treasure to have on RUclips for everyone to enjoy. For anyone who followed Gulda from his days wearing headpieces, we should all remember that he was very focused on so much of the great traditional German repertoire. In all fairness, the performance is a bit hurried at times and abrupt, but one could argue that he also created a harpsichord effect with the abrupt chords et al. But the performance has such vibrance - a treasure.

  • @helerota
    @helerota 14 лет назад +2

    es absolutamente extraordinario,genial!!

  • @Ici-st4hg
    @Ici-st4hg 8 лет назад

    PRIMA! This young (and bald) pianist is undoubtedly something else!

  • @KABRIS1
    @KABRIS1 14 лет назад

    @sirdelrio Thank you for articulating this point in a brilliant manner.

  • @kleinigotti
    @kleinigotti 11 лет назад +1

    best version ever

    • @ruperttmls7985
      @ruperttmls7985 7 лет назад

      También la de Christianne Jacottet al clavecin es muy buena.

  • @bernardtheillaucher9478
    @bernardtheillaucher9478 5 лет назад

    Viva Gulda ! Thanks Gabor !

  • @Neotonalguy
    @Neotonalguy 14 лет назад +1

    He also plays Jazz....amazing artist

  • @manfredschulz5642
    @manfredschulz5642 10 лет назад

    Es gibt nur ganz wenige,die Bach glaubhaft spielen können,dieser etwas schräge Herr Gulda gehört dazu!

  • @barbarafuglein3918
    @barbarafuglein3918 8 месяцев назад

    Ohne viel Worte,ein Meister seines 😊Faches!!!!

  • @hhm28061953
    @hhm28061953 9 лет назад +46

    At this time he was very young and pianists have a different understanding of playing Bach when they are older - more slower. What makes us sure that playing it faster is wrong? What makes us sure that playing it slower is correct. Music which is more than 250 years old undergoes several interpretations of younger and older pianists and can only reflect the masterpiece. Bach was young and Bach was old when he played the piece during his life. Here stands the question - what was the valid one? No one can answer it correctly today.

    • @mathiasjustesen4910
      @mathiasjustesen4910 8 лет назад +5

      +Hans-Horst Mueller there is no correct answer.

    • @JuanPabloGuirigay
      @JuanPabloGuirigay 8 лет назад +1

      Music Rhetoric would help you find an answer (depending on how you assume the standing question, of course).

    • @michaldevetsedm1882
      @michaldevetsedm1882 7 лет назад

      Oh no, usually there is just one correct tempo for each piece. (or rarely 2, far from one another). That some epoch liked it slower and the other faster only means that one saw through it better than the other. What makes some people sure is that they understand the piece deeply. Take Andras Schiff as an example of deep understanding of Bach.

    • @JuanPabloGuirigay
      @JuanPabloGuirigay 7 лет назад

      from 11'34"
      recommended!

    • @acontekkst5127
      @acontekkst5127 7 лет назад

      lol. Schiff. Thank you for qualifying your perspective.

  • @aaabbbccc5
    @aaabbbccc5 15 лет назад

    Bach/Busoni good work indeed! Gulda is my friend!

  • @maxtenenbaum7425
    @maxtenenbaum7425 2 года назад +3

    EN EL PARAISO SE OYE LA MUSICA DE BACH ANTES QUE CUALQUIER OTRO COMPOSITOR. EL ES LO MAXIMO.

  • @matteomanzoni764
    @matteomanzoni764 10 лет назад +2

    E' il più grande!

  • @rolandonavarro
    @rolandonavarro 15 лет назад +1

    there is not word. this man isn´t from this planet

  • @madaboutvoice
    @madaboutvoice 2 года назад +1

    I''m still sad that gelnn gould refused to record this fugue though he did the fantasie.

  • @JC-zf6sx
    @JC-zf6sx 6 лет назад +2

    hearing this makes me appreciate jaco pastorius' version even more.

  • @JohannesKuenel
    @JohannesKuenel 14 лет назад +6

    @bushinarin
    Your're right, I just have to add: In 1964, it's neither really baroque nor romantic. When interpreting old music, we can try our best in making it sound authentic, but we will never be able to do it like the then interpreters, since our lifestyle is so different, and so are e.g. our musical impressions. Gulda, Gould, etc. have heard e.g. romantic music and can't erase this memory. Or, maybe even Bach would have wanted us to play romantically, if he had known what it meant ;-) ?

    • @bluedragon7925
      @bluedragon7925 3 года назад

      ...and they would have said we played out of tune and vice-versa. And now all keys sound the same even to us.

    • @grantMH1
      @grantMH1 3 года назад

      Johannesburg - This is among the most intelligent and insightful comments I have read in any RUclips piece.Bravo!

  • @ericrouach
    @ericrouach 8 лет назад +2

    magnificent rendition
    he plays a bosendorfer!

  • @lacotroppavieratroppova8147
    @lacotroppavieratroppova8147 8 лет назад +1

    EXCELLENT....

  • @MrJames1201
    @MrJames1201 9 лет назад

    such clarity

  • @gwedielwch
    @gwedielwch 12 лет назад

    A great jazz performance !

  • @denisjtassart2174
    @denisjtassart2174 7 лет назад +1

    thank you friedrich !

  • @RichWrightFloyd19
    @RichWrightFloyd19 12 лет назад +1

    This Piece was originally wrote for Harpsichord, which meant that this piece had no dynamics too it cause the harpsichord could be played in only one volume. Playing this piece on piano would seem hard cause you have to play with no dynamics.

  • @bigbeautifullife7329
    @bigbeautifullife7329 4 года назад +4

    自分自身は、素晴らしい演奏と感じる筆頭である。技術のギリギリの速さを取り、一定のテンポを守り、恣意的な事はしない。造詣がしっかりしていて、後のチェンバリスト達、つまりグスタフ・レオンハルトの演奏に通じる演奏だ。グルダはジャズを弾くので、そこを突き抜けて、クラヴィコードにピックアップを付けて、ロックコンサート級の音量でバッハを演奏している。どの曲でも成立するわけではないが、半音階的幻想曲とフーガに関しては説得力がある。ベービングを使うと、エレキギターのようにも聞こえる。これを越える演奏はまだないと言える。

    • @OldPannonian
      @OldPannonian Год назад

      I couldn't have said it better myself.......

  • @vova47
    @vova47 14 лет назад +1

    @TJFNYC212 Yes,indeed, she was his only pupil. And she called him "the most gifted person I know"

  • @ChenBarad
    @ChenBarad 13 лет назад +1

    it is such a hard scale! no one uses it. brilliant

  • @Felix_Li_En
    @Felix_Li_En 15 лет назад

    Thank you for this !

  • @maternalheart66
    @maternalheart66 13 лет назад +2

    Sighh, those were the golden days of concert pianists.

  • @MiltonAdam-r4e
    @MiltonAdam-r4e 10 дней назад +1

    Stunning Bach before the Glen Gould hype.

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 12 лет назад +3

    This is so unlike most Bach music. One can only wonder what inspired him to write it. A visiting Italian musician?

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 7 месяцев назад

    So many pianists use a ton of rubato in the fugue, and romanticize it. But this as Gulda plays it is perfect. Fugues are musical structures, like an Eiffel Tower, or some great machine. They need symmetry, precision, and rock solid timing.

  • @metteholm4833
    @metteholm4833 7 лет назад

    Monumental!

  • @dmazrianah
    @dmazrianah 10 лет назад +1

    Finally found this video! This was my 8th grade exam piece in 2006. Same speed tempo but the starting part I think I went a bit too fast.

  • @PointyTailofSatan
    @PointyTailofSatan 3 года назад +1

    This would be a perfect piece to demonstrate the flexibility of equal temperament. Add to that the very unlike Bach development of the fantasy, and I would guess this was written to "prove" equal temperament to his students and/or fellow musicians.

  • @pickymoon
    @pickymoon 15 лет назад +1

    @metteholm75 , actually he's not the only one to play this manner (which is my favorite). Try listening to Jaccottet's version.

  • @caldermf
    @caldermf 11 лет назад +3

    Fantasy - 0:00
    Fugue - 5:34

  • @mynameismred
    @mynameismred 14 лет назад

    i really like this

  • @injacowetrust
    @injacowetrust 15 лет назад

    awesome!

  • @cualquie
    @cualquie 13 лет назад

    so good

  • @ycooreman
    @ycooreman 13 лет назад

    @vivafra87 You are absolutely right, that is why I added the "in my opinion". It is of course, just my opinion and thus according to my taste. So maybe I should have said "that is the one that suits my taste the best".

  • @1954surya
    @1954surya 2 года назад +1

    So muss das sein!

  • @metteholm75
    @metteholm75 15 лет назад +1

    That was fantastic. The way he shows the structure by playing the full harmonies in that "sforzando" -like manner is highly unsusual, but the idea is clear. Gulda is no less eccentric than Gould.

  • @snaaptaker
    @snaaptaker 14 лет назад

    @aaabbbccc5 Yes, there is a transcription of this piece by Busoni. This isn't it. This is the original version by Bach. That's why Gulda announced "Johann Sebastian Bach", and not "Bach/Busoni".
    You can't hear the difference between Bach and Bach/Busoni?

  • @THEbuchalski
    @THEbuchalski 15 лет назад

    @y1g1tcn but that's kinda the point. he's playing a song for harpsichord (?) on piano. This is the problem with playing Bach on piano... he wrote no piece for piano, because obviously it wasn't invented yet. Often this means little to no pedal, but most especially in this piece, it is up for interpretation. I like to use some pedal in the arpeggios toward the beginning of the fantasie and none in the fugue. but, in essence, the performer is already making the piece their own by switching instrs

    • @emilianoturazzi
      @emilianoturazzi 4 года назад

      the point is not that the harpsichord had no sustain pedal, the point is that it is uneffective with counterpoint ...

  • @shilloshillos
    @shilloshillos 12 лет назад

    Gulda is the king!