J.S. Bach Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue in d minor, BWV 903 (Schiff)
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- The Chromatic Fantasia and Fugue is an extravagant work of virtuosity and bold harmonic structure. It is an extraordinary piece - large, sprawling, emotional, and unique in its character compared to the rest of Bach's music. The title of the piece comes from either the fugue’s chromatic melody, or from the startling modulations in the Fantasia. Either opinion is equally acceptable and debated.
Bach composed only a few “fantasies” - a type of prelude usually preceding a fugue. The Fantasia is highly virtuosic and similar in form to the toccata, English fantasy, and the canzone, in that it consists of alternating sections of differently textured music. The English fantasy differs from Bach’s fantasies because it does not contain any free, improvisational sections. And unlike the Italian canzone, Bach’s chromatic fantasy does not include sections of imitative counterpoint.
The Fantasia consists of three main sections: the first (0:00) being a true prelude, the second (3:38) a recitative-like section, and the third (4:58) a mixture of the two. Some scholars, however, categorize the extensive arpeggio part preceding the recitative as a separate section in itself. The first section consists of technically demanding toccata-like passagework. Conversely, the recitative that follows is musically challenging, requiring extreme emotional sensitivity. And the third section combines the two elements in a virtuosic drive to the end.
The fugue begins in a strict style but gradually loosens, revealing elements of the fantasy. It opens with a long and complex semitonal subject. The fugue has three sections with eleven entrances of the fugal theme. Every entry of the theme contains an element of uncertainty, yet each seems to be anticipated by the previous one. The first section stays mostly in d minor, while the second section modulates as the theme is introduced in distantly related keys. The third section again returns to d minor and ends with bravura passage work, scales, and “organistic” octave doubling in the bass, not unlike the closing of a toccata. Compared to the fugues of The Well-Tempered Clavier, this fugue is treated much more freely.
0:00 - Fantasia
6:54 - Fugue
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As a pianist whose had very little exposure to Bach outside of inventions and some "textbook" fugues, I think with this I finally get Bach. This incredible art is why his music is still around today
There literally is Bach, and then the rest of music.
I am curious why this piece. And what does it mean to "get Bach". What do you get exactly?
@@bargledargle7941 Before hearing this I only really knew Bach through learning his inventions and fugues for piano. I never really got a chance to appreciate his music, and understand what made it so special. This piece in particular spoke to me, since usually Bach is a little bland to me but this piece just seems very harmonically interesting to me.
@@denimator05
I think Bach's inventions and fugues are his best work probably, specifically the fugues but his inventions are incredible. I understand now, you didn't understand something new about Bach but you just found a piece you like by Bach. I was confused earlier because appreciating Bach by this piece is like appreciating a chef by the choice of his shoes.
Who's.
I love how the score goes 'OK, I believe you now know how to do this' at 1:34.
It says arpeggio, you're meant to follow the same pattern shown in the previous bar
@@smhmyhead8017 not necessarily… look at handel’s suite in b flat for keyboard… the first measures of the first movement of the suite begins with arpeggios. They are improvisatory and following the same pattern isn’t a requirement, as I understand.
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We're just a step away from putting "Play like J.S. Bach"
The Bülow edition tells you how to do it. I fucking love him for the fact that he's willing to spoon-feed normies like us.
It's like he looked into the future- "ah, okay romantics and chromatics. Let's try what I can do" and than "this was fun, let's also make a fugue with it"
It's like bach explored all the musical possibilities that the future would later try. The harmonic pivot at 2:00 is 200 years ahead of it's time. I mean, I guess it isn't since it's right here, but I honestly feel Bach is one of the only composers that I've yet to feel despondent towards someone's unyielding awe of him; cos I agree. He was a visionary that experienced the realm of musical potential with superhuman fidelity that far surpassed the socio-musical zeitgeist of his time. As much as I adore many other composer's piano music, I constantly feel myself unable to find much that surpasses bach's output in terms of continued excellence in compositional pacing and movement.
Well, 2:00 is a straight forward diminished chord, nothing special about that one. You have to dig deeper to find the truly bold ones.
@@achenarmyst2156 thank you for your response. I should've been more specific. My time stamp was chosen to prepare the ears and provide some harmonic context, should anyone have read my comment. However, I recognise the choice of timestamp is misleading. The harmonic pivot I'm interested in is the D dominant 7 into the B dominant 7 chord from 2:02 to 2:08.
Try Vivaldi rv44 😉
Verdade. Além disso, o instrumento para qual ele pensou essas músicas nem era o piano.
I agree with u👍
"Chromaticism is for classical and romantic periods"
*Jaco Pastorius
Bach: hold my bible
Marcos Sidoruk lmaooo
@@marcossidoruk8033 lmao
@@marcossidoruk8033 Underrated comment
I learned the Fantasy a long time ago (struggled with the Fugue; couldn't get it up to performance standards) and liked to play it for people who hadn't heard it before. I'd always ask them to guess the composer. No one ever guessed Bach.
I remember my Dad saying, "Well, it's not Mozart. And it's not John Cage. So it's somewhere in between." He was dumbfounded when I told him who it was.
idk, it still sounds quite Bach-y to me
@@themoonfleesthroughclouds the beginning parts certainly, but after all those characteristic Bach chord-based figures and runs, in the middle of the fantasy(where I am now while writing this), it's far more difficult to discern as Bach. It's only when the fugue comes in that it sounds like Bach again to me. So take out the opening figures and the fugue, and I would not guess Bach as having written this.
@@mydogskips2 But also Bach was very unpredictable also, secondly Fantasy meant improvisation back then, so maybe since he improvised this he didn’t want it to sound boring.
"If you find Bach his music pretty easy to play, then you're probably doing it wrong."
Don't worry, struggles go with Bach his music.
Is the fantasie hard of playing? Thinking about giving it a shot. I dont know how hard it is just by looking at the sheet.
I love this piece. It sounds as if it was improvised.
That is the reason why is called fantasy xddd
@@bryanbustamante9248 Fantasy was also a popular term for improvisations.
Exactly, it is (to describe it in modern terms) an improv written out.
Bach probably semi-improvised most of his compositions
yeah. It’s supposed to. It’s a fantasia
almost unbelievable that Bach did this. this sounds like a Piece that composers of the late 19th century could have written. like debussy or chopin. This man was beyond genius. He was the da Vinci of music
Lol
Bruh
Listen to Gesualdo
Personally it reminds me nothing of debusysy
@@Fildoggyextremely little of Chopin.
6:54 Fuga
yes
k2 what
k2 would fucker be fugaer
Toda
k2 oh ok. The more you know!
Bach, like Mozart is deceptively difficult to play. Fewer notes, sure, but everything has to be so clean and pristine only those who don't ride the damper like it was a gas pedal in the Indie 500 will be successful bringing this off.
I know, even though he uses fewer notes, the shapes he uses and the fact that you need to really express them.
I've never heard Bach music described as "deceptively difficult" before 😉
@@BinaryBard64 I had to find out the hard way. This was many years ago of course.
@@ignacioclerici5341 I'll drink to that
@dejuren You know, I think you're right. Thanks for catching that. 👍
Schoenberg talks a lot about this work in his 'Theory of Harmony', now I see why. Thanks for uploading the score.
What does he say about it?
@Cosmic Dissonance Usually I would agree that most theory are BS. But in Schoenberg's case I think it helped me to organise things in my head, and then have ideas by my own while using this organisation. But I agree that it doens't work like that for everyone.
@@orangutan1262 I wouldn't recommend it too, at least not get a good understanding of harmony.
But if you already have some harmony knowledge, in this case that book could get you some ideas.
BUT WHAT DOES HE SAY ABOUT IT?
@@segmentsAndCurves hi
2:29 J.S. was the model for Ludwig when he, Ludwig, incorporated improvisation into his piano sonata.
Ok.
Ok.
Amazingly modern easily presaging the romantic era, Bach was greatest composer in history.
People say Beethoven were revolutionary but I would say it's Bach
luckily more than one person can be
Beethoven used to say "his name is Bach ("River", in German), but it should actually be Ocean". Everything comes from this man, the greatest composer of all times.
@@GasteMelhor Bach means stream.
@@DJKLProductions Which is basically a synonym for river
We listened to part of this in theory and it was so awesome I had to listen to the rest
Спасибо за Баха! Одна из любимейших вещей!
Concordo, assolutamente meraviglioso...uno stile unico in grado di teletrasportarti in un altra dimensione....eterno bach❤❤❤
7:42 can’t help but feel that bass voice is not unlike the bass line in some early 80s metal songs, especially on harpschichord.
proto-mini-gallop, amirite?
Another similarity to some early 80s metal songs is the use of notes and possibly chords.
Yeah, Bach is very metal. I cannot fathom how some see Bach's music as "intellectual" and that you shall "only play it the correct way".
Siempre estuve buscando la cromatica .Exelente ejecusiion .Buen comienzo de semana
Nice and slow, a lot more enjoyable than the usual light-speed performances.
3:58 reminds me kind of his Aria
"Es ist Vollbracht" From Bachs St. John Passion
So beautiful
Stunning!
Bellísima fantasía de JS.
Rare Bach octave moment at 11:42. I can't think of any other time he (or any of his contemporaries) used octaves like this. Reminds of Beethoven or even Liszt.
i think there are some scarlatti sonatas, which use octaves in a similar manner, e.g. k 26 or k 44.
otherwise it is indeed rare and very dramatic. there's also an octave passage in the e minor prelude (edit: fugue) in wtc I (bwv 855), however a little different from what you mean.
@@FlorianBriegel I'm not surprised Scarlatti used octaves, he was very ahead of his time in terms of technique. I believe clementi also used some. I've always thought it would be cool if people added octaves and double notes to Bach's work.
@@JG_1998 Scarlatti is a G
@@JG_1998 There's a lot of octaves in Busoni's transcriptions
@@Fildoggy yeah but those aren't by Bach lmao
Bravo bravo bravo grandiose genial music
I never knew Soleiyu Belmont's theme is Bach's composition until now. It's really Great
took me here too
His name is actually supposed to be Soleil
@@jonaha502 True that but I'm used to the name Soleiyu since the very beginning
J.s.bach god of shredding all time's
0:00 фантазія, вступ
3:37 фантазія, речитатив
6:54 фуга
Exelelente tan dficil interprtacion
This is so extravagant!
De los más bello 😘 y difícil 🤩 de JS Bach 💐🇲🇽
Andras is “the MAN”! The Grand Master of Western European keyboard music...unbelievable, this freaking guy...he plays vast amounts of literature from memory, every nuance, articulation, dynamic, with purpose, meaning, depth and understanding...he must be an alien hybrid
This video was viewed by 250k+ viewers bit only 3.3k have liked it! Amazing!
It is such an amazing composition that it does not seem possible to be by Bach.
Obviously we must remember what he writes for solo violin or in certain preludes or fantasies for organ, or the portentous and wild toccatas for harpsichord, where the harmonic labyrinths that he manages to navigate are as if they sprouted from a Baroque imagination so personal as to suggest a possible romance. Yes, but which Romanticism? Which composer?
The chromatic fantasy is a prodigy of harmonic inspiration and timeless melodic sensuality.
Every time you listen to it you are as impressed as if it were the first time.
Or maybe he just went to some distant keys arbitrarily... "Eh it's a chromatic one so let's just go to distant keys with the harmony". Those modulation techniques are pretty simple also
Con mi aportación para ti colección. de Música Barroca y Clásica. Buendía.
tbh, I heard it first through Jaco Pastorius.
It's really great
Learning this rn and it’s quite the piece!
Got it down yet?
The piece was produced right after the death of his wife, and the emotions and thoughts he had are embedded in the music.
When I first heard this, on an LP by Peter Katin, I was amazed at how modern it sounded. How could this possibly have been written in the first half of the eighteenth century? I thought perhaps that the pianist was improvising, you know taking cadenza-like liberties because it was a fantasia. Possibly being played on a piano rather than a harpsichord also made it sound modern. But the more I learned about it and realised that every note was composed and all those chromatic harmonies were there in the original, the more amazing and timelessly modern the piece became. A sort of musical virtuosic miracle.
Первый раздел фантазии [ 00:00 ]
Второй раздел фантазии [ 3:37 ]
Фуга [ 6:54 ]
Огромное спасибо.
@@kaverbez6673 OGROMNO
BACH SE ACERCA BASTANTE A LO QUE HARIA LA ARMONIA DE CHOPIN MUCHISIMOS AÑOS DESPUES.
INCREIBLE! QUE TALENTO EL DE BACH. EL EXCESO DE CROMATISMOS LO HACE SONAR CASI COMO UN ROMANTICO EN PLENO PERIODO BARROCO!
this is wild
Johann Sebastian Bach:d-moll kromatikus fantázia és fúga BWV 903
Schiff András-zongora
6:54 Fugue
If Bach wasn't the greatest composer of all time I'll be dammed 😂
tu ne le seras pas....
"Chopin is the greatest of them all, for with the piano alone he discovered everything."
- Claude Debussy
@@WesCoastPiano we love chopin as pianist but he certainly isn't the best composer, too narrow (quite literally only wrote for piano)
@@WesCoastPiano while having taken half his style from liszt :/
Beethoven and Liszt : are we a joke to you?
wow
Reminds me of the 542 fantasia
Tenia el disco de HOROWITS ,cuando regreso 11 años despues ,que salio de su tribulacion .Mi maestro me conto de su retiro y regreso
Damn that last chords from the fantasy sounds almost wagnerian
I don't think so, it's baroque style
Farrel Permadi he said almost
@@johndoe9501 oops
It doesn’t sound anything like that Nazi.
@@danal81 Shut.
Featured in Castlevania II Belmont's Revenge!
Where exactly?
Albdruck
ruclips.net/video/hsYcI1ikUi4/видео.html
It was used during the boss fight against Christopher Belmont’s son, Soleiyu.
@@supermariobro93 Your link lead me to another link about Family Guy, Bach and Debussy
Wow
bach \m/
This chromatic fantasia is insane BWV903
the fugue seems ridiculously difficult with bringing out the correct voices and all...
Part of Bach's greatness -- challenging players and hearers to new heights. I thought Schiff did fine with it, though I was disappointed to see halfway through that I was listening to this Orbán-hating commie. In fact I passed over other links with his name showing to get here.
@@scronx edgy
@@scronx I thought youtube commenter did fine with the comment, though I was disappointed to see halfway through that I was reading from this Schiff-hating facist. In fact I passed over most youtube comments to avoid these trash.
@@zanexiao4488 I'm not a facist. I think Schiff's face is fine, speshly that silly little smile he does when having a Bach mini-orgasm.
@EramSemperRecta Right -- the knuckleheads THINK it's real sharp to throw that around, knowing the entire time that the left are the real thugs, tyrants and degenerates.
2:45
00:01 D MINOR의 도입부와 아르페지오 페이지 1번
00:10 2번
01:11 즉흥적 음계 1번
01:24 2번
01:36 장엄한 코랄풍 아르페지오
03:26 감성적인 레치타티포 부분
05:50 레치타티보의 성격을 지닌 종결부 (코다)
06:54 푸가 제 1부분
08:34 푸가 제 2부분
10:05 푸가 제 3부분
11:33 푸가 종결부
Love the reference to Tristan and Isolde at 2:34 !
@@dejuren1367 That's a joke (I think). If so, it's a good one.
0:10 those triplets 😏
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Sorabji wrote an arrangement of this on 3 staves
Dance-Fugue
“Chomaticism is for classical and romantic periods” Bach, “Hold my beer.”
That last part was could been literal. He used to drank lots of beer
Twosetviolin anyone? Here after they explained about how he improvised a piece on the spot with a chromatic scale
4:31Fuge
En la Bach son raros esos episodios de muchos acordes en arpeggio juntos; es mucho más común en los preludios de Handel que en Bach.
Anybody here for Gödel Escher Bach?
Now who's gonna tell this is a baroque piece?
bar 87, the second chord has been changed!:) it should be Gb,Bb,C Eb, Bb, Db. Which is so weird for that time :)
Well rendered. Who is the performer?
András Schiff. It's in the title :)
Les dije qo no sirve en Mix esta es especial.
reminds me of mozarts concerto in d minor also. interesting
5:50
3:02
Bach, to the future, eh?
**slow clap**
@@most_sane_piano_enthusiast slow clap? Wit' Johannes?
My apologies ...
@@StephenS-2024 nah, it's just a common response to a pun
@@StephenS-2024 was actually quite a good one
@@most_sane_piano_enthusiast you're too kind. Hehe.
Отличное исполнение с поразительной гибкостью агогики в Фантазии. К сожалению,заметный произвол в орнаментике.
J. S. B.
I have a few additions I'd like to make to the score. I don't think JSB would mind....
Some very difficult pas.ssge work here. I wish i could play like that.
6:56
Some parts are similar with the violin sonata 1
I could do drugs to this I did some when I heard this played on a Harp
What did happen?
Castlevania Belmont’s revenge brought me
Portia: (reading) You are totes invited to a formal birthday party hosted by Anton St Germain. Celebrating my 10 and a half birthday.
Why are those written chords played as arpeggios?
3:47 and 3:55 sound like jazz? In baroque era?
It's just a half diminished - seventh chord built on the seventh degree in major and second in minor. It was pretty common in baroque and classical, and especially in romanticism (Tristan chord). The first chord, diminished seventh is even more common.
Contrapunctus 2 from the Art of Fugue, especially played by Glenn Gould, also sounds jazzy.
I don't find it jazzy, let alone if played on a harpsichord
Bach does not sound Jazzy
Music amateur here. If the piece is chromatic, how is it in the key of d minor?
The piece is ultimately centered on D minor, but has a great deal of chromaticism. Heavy usage of chromatic melodies and harmonic twists does not necessarily preclude tonality.
It's chromatic, not atonal. Chromatic means borrowing notes outside of key, atonal means no key.
Learning this piece at the moment.. there are so many different version of the score.. 😅
@Andy Chen Haha, she did. But it was just a bit hard to find a recording of the version that I am using. There are always some subtle differences.
@@aprilpong_ Are you learning it right now? I sightreaded the first 4 pages just joking for my teacher and told me to learn it..., but I just have 3 years in piano and I don't actually know if I'm upto this piece. Is it easy to learn for you?
@@alejandrom.4680 I am learning it for my licentiate diploma exam at the moment. I think it is quite difficult to learn 😅
April Pong Ah yes, my teacher told me that some of her students played it for their piano graduation..., why the hell am I playing it then. Is quite fun to play tho, loving the fast arpeggios at the first pages and the fast runs, without mention the really complex harmony it has envolved
Castlevania 2: Belmonts Revenge.
11 03:35
18 10:03
What is this tuned at? A440 or baroque?
It seems to be tuned at A=440Hz, but I'm not sure of it.
A = 442
Es lo que oimos ,no respuestas de criadas
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Who is playing? Thanks!
Andras Schiff
who plays this?
1:47
1:46
1:45
1:44
2:00
And for whom does the author give instructions on the duration of the notes?
Or did I miss the "rubato"?
Dislik is unambiguous.
From history I guess, since that's kinda ordinary in that period
This piece is so much better when played on a harpsichord
Castlevania 2 Belmonts revenge.....
Anyone else?
Right here! I want to be able to play this piece some day.
Bach uses major 7th chord @ 2:42
So what?
@@0xdeadbeef975 It's cool 🥺
Não tem jeito, o piano não me convence como instrumento para esse repertório. A estética não casa.
Rumor has it that this was written by one of Bach's sons and not Bach...
Interesting. Where did you read or hear the rumor?
Ive always though this piece had a bit of improvisation element to it. J.S. Bach's pieces were more finalized sounding. I can see C.P.E Bach writing this piece. It has his flair in it.