For anyone saying there is a master code that is common across all safes, that is partially correct. Here is an article that describes it and states you MUST change the master code during the lock setup. Still doesn't guarantee that the manufacturer will not use the same one throughout its entire line but the master code has to be changed (Search Maseter Code on the page below): safelocksystems.co.uk/knowledgebase/2021/05/01/the-new-la-gard-700-series/ Update, it appears that Liberty uses Securam locks on their safes, You can remove the manufacturers code for a securam lck Liberty Securam infor: www.libertysafe.com/pages/securam-options How to Reset and Remove Factory Codes from a Securam lock system: ruclips.net/video/pSfx0iH9Am0/видео.html
They gave away this man's secrets for him. And that isn't necessarily a bad thing? You don't have exclusive access to your gun safe, liberty employees could go rogue and clean out everyone with that safe. It's a huge effing deal.
My understanding s that it was done with a warrant, which would have game them access to the safe whether Liberty cooperated or not. However, in retrospect, Liberty should have refused unless the warrant specifically forced them to reveal the factory code.
Several legal experts said Liberty Safe was under no obligation to hand over the code because the safe was not company property and the company was not the target of the search warrant.
I think they were in a bind because they had to way the response they'd get from militia types and the response they'd get from boomer types who want to suck off every officer they see.
easier way is to remove the serial # from the back of the safe as well as from the back of the keypad , keep those in a different location in case YOU need it .
My Liberty Safe warranty registration certificate has my name and my wife's name (as secondary) on the certificate along the serial number. I am betting that Liberty Safe can look up either of our name, look at that certificate, get the serial number and freely give out the safe's backdoor combination. I don't trust Liberty safe to do the right thing now.
@@dwayne7356 Has there been definitive answers out there as to whether each safe has it's own backdoor combination, or is there just one, or a few, universal ones? I never did trust electronic locks, that is why.
Even worse, what if there is a single master combination, or an alternate entry mode that allows a master unlock sequence to be entered regardless of serial number? They never said what type of data entry they used.
I have a traditional spinning combo. Came with default, changed it, done. If authorities have a warrant they will get in. Via locksmith or cutting if necessary.
Great video, but if you ever go through a federal search warrant like I have none of that matters, if they don’t get the combination or key access they will do like they did with me is to cut it open with torches and a large metal cutting saw. Eventually I was cleared of any charges but it cost me 10k in legal fees and 11k in the damage they did to my home. This included using a cutting torch over my hardwood floors That guy is probably lucky that got his combo
If LEO wants into your safe, they should/must come with a VALID SEARCH WARRANT and/or COURT ORDER. Don't give up your combination to a cop just because he is a cop. HE MUST FOLLOW THE LAW.
Liberty Safes can be opened by a local locksmith if you forget your combo. Don't disagree with the sentiment of the short. But the Liberty Safes are vulnerable even without the help from the factory.
@@ExtremeDIYGuyit’s the principal of the matter that counts. All companies need to take notes. 1. Get out of China. 2. Stop selling our info and profiling for profit. 3. You sell out your customer, we destroy you. And that goes for all companies. This company should be dissolved, and will be.
You people can't figure out that this is all a scam. Who's gonna be making tons of money now? follow the money. Stimulus package for the lock companies.
Never seen any of your videos, but this is a good one. I don't have a safe currently, but I plan on getting something small, probably more like a locker, lol.
I can't think of any reasons to use electric. Easy to bypass is just one reason though. A Bad battery A Short in a wire Not many electronics are gonna have the same lifespan as a regular old key or dial. People generally accept that electronics are not a lifetime investment, yet they will invest 1000s on a safe running on electric... it simply doesn't make sense.
So are you saying that each safe has its own special code different from the one you program? A backdoor code different from all other safes? If so how do they know what code mine is? I wasn't stupid enough to send the company the registration card with the safe information and the information about the safe is inside the locked safe. There must be a universal code.
Contact library safe they will provide a letter from them. How it's their policy for them to provide law enforcement with the combination when they request it. Very disturbing they would do that. They will also send you a link to get off the combination list and they will "destroy" your combo from there system....if you believe that
@@ExtremeDIYGuy good luck to you if you believe that. If you email they will forward a letter from them saying that it's their policy to give law enforcement the combo. So buyer be warned. I'm sure the lawyers will have a field day being the search warrant wasn't for the safe and they gave the combo over the phone and had no proof of who they were or if they had a warrant for the safe !
To my knowledge, nobody at Liberty has stated that they DON'T use one master code for all of the safes they sell with that feature. So, swapping locks may or may not be of benefit at all. Hiding the serial number may not as well. If you know of a source that states otherwise, by all means state your source.
Liberty does not make their own lock bodies, typically, LaGard locks seem to be a popular option with them as well as Cannon. SO if you buy a LaGard to replace your, you should be fine. I seriously doubt, LaGard or any other supplier ships their locks with a single "Master" code. That would be idiotic since if that code got out, a person could get into every safe in the world with it.
Give me a break if the cops have a warrant they can cut your safe open.. which would you rather have them open the safe with a combo or have them cut the safe open as long as they have a warrant they can do both your choice
Perhaps you missed my disclaimer. The intent is not to keep Law Enforcement out, it's to keep your safe from being compromised by the factory giving out the factory code by accident. Besides, if you are a law abiding citizen, and law enforcement shows up with a warrant, you should open the safe for them otherwise they will cut it open.
As someone who has had to cut safes open due to water damage I'm not sure what the issue is wrt to the FBI. They'll just do what they always have done: 1. Get a warrant 2. Have exigent circumstances
Yes they did, the FBI had a warrant to search the house. So they legally complied. nypost.com/2023/09/07/liberty-safe-under-fire-for-giving-fbi-access-to-alleged-capitol-rioters-firearms/
For anyone saying there is a master code that is common across all safes, that is partially correct. Here is an article that describes it and states you MUST change the master code during the lock setup. Still doesn't guarantee that the manufacturer will not use the same one throughout its entire line but the master code has to be changed (Search Maseter Code on the page below):
safelocksystems.co.uk/knowledgebase/2021/05/01/the-new-la-gard-700-series/
Update, it appears that Liberty uses Securam locks on their safes, You can remove the manufacturers code for a securam lck
Liberty Securam infor:
www.libertysafe.com/pages/securam-options
How to Reset and Remove Factory Codes from a Securam lock system:
ruclips.net/video/pSfx0iH9Am0/видео.html
They gave away this man's secrets for him. And that isn't necessarily a bad thing? You don't have exclusive access to your gun safe, liberty employees could go rogue and clean out everyone with that safe. It's a huge effing deal.
My understanding s that it was done with a warrant, which would have game them access to the safe whether Liberty cooperated or not. However, in retrospect, Liberty should have refused unless the warrant specifically forced them to reveal the factory code.
Several legal experts said Liberty Safe was under no obligation to hand over the code because the safe was not company property and the company was not the target of the search warrant.
I think they were in a bind because they had to way the response they'd get from militia types and the response they'd get from boomer types who want to suck off every officer they see.
Their policy is to give it out with out proof in this case. Contact them they have a company policy letter they will send you saying so.
easier way is to remove the serial # from the back of the safe as well as from the back of the keypad , keep those in a different location in case YOU need it .
Good suggestion
Was it a serial number at the feds provided, or did liberty safe already knoe who they sold it to and what serial number he had?
My Liberty Safe warranty registration certificate has my name and my wife's name (as secondary) on the certificate along the serial number. I am betting that Liberty Safe can look up either of our name, look at that certificate, get the serial number and freely give out the safe's backdoor combination. I don't trust Liberty safe to do the right thing now.
@@dwayne7356 Has there been definitive answers out there as to whether each safe has it's own backdoor combination, or is there just one, or a few, universal ones? I never did trust electronic locks, that is why.
Even worse, what if there is a single master combination, or an alternate entry mode that allows a master unlock sequence to be entered regardless of serial number? They never said what type of data entry they used.
I have a traditional spinning combo. Came with default, changed it, done. If authorities have a warrant they will get in. Via locksmith or cutting if necessary.
Completely true, Authorities can and will get in it with a Warrant.
I prefer that they cut it. They didn't have a warrant for the safe so in this case it would have been over if it wasn't for a safe company.
@42069sdouglas if they hadn't got the safe combo, they would have gotten a warrant specifically for the safe. They had enough probable cause.
Great video, but if you ever go through a federal search warrant like I have none of that matters, if they don’t get the combination or key access they will do like they did with me is to cut it open with torches and a large metal cutting saw.
Eventually I was cleared of any charges but it cost me 10k in legal fees and 11k in the damage they did to my home.
This included using a cutting torch over my hardwood floors
That guy is probably lucky that got his combo
Just have a friend buy a new lock for you and remove the serial numbers. Untraceable.
There you go!
If LEO wants into your safe, they should/must come with a VALID SEARCH WARRANT and/or COURT ORDER. Don't give up your combination to a cop just because he is a cop. HE MUST FOLLOW THE LAW.
judges rubber stamp that shit.
there are no reproductions.
Agreed!
Liberty Safes can be opened by a local locksmith if you forget your combo. Don't disagree with the sentiment of the short. But the Liberty Safes are vulnerable even without the help from the factory.
I was going to buy one and now I changed my mind
You should be fine, Liberty is allowing safe owners to request that their safe's history (factory combo) be expunged from their records
@@ExtremeDIYGuyit’s the principal of the matter that counts. All companies need to take notes. 1. Get out of China. 2. Stop selling our info and profiling for profit. 3. You sell out your customer, we destroy you. And that goes for all companies.
This company should be dissolved, and will be.
I don’t think we should take their word.
I think if I owned a Liberty Safe, I would be welding a padlock clasp to it and putting a padlock on it.
Hey that's not a bad idea haha
You people can't figure out that this is all a scam. Who's gonna be making tons of money now? follow the money. Stimulus package for the lock companies.
Is there a factory code to the Liberty dile combo locks?
Never seen any of your videos, but this is a good one. I don't have a safe currently, but I plan on getting something small, probably more like a locker, lol.
Id be weary of any of the smaller cheaper safes as they are fairly easy to get into.
i don't trust safes with the "electronic keypad", too easy to by-pass.
Good point
I can't think of any reasons to use electric.
Easy to bypass is just one reason though.
A Bad battery
A Short in a wire
Not many electronics are gonna have the same lifespan as a regular old key or dial.
People generally accept that electronics are not a lifetime investment, yet they will invest 1000s on a safe running on electric...
it simply doesn't make sense.
So are you saying that each safe has its own special code different from the one you program? A backdoor code different from all other safes? If so how do they know what code mine is? I wasn't stupid enough to send the company the registration card with the safe information and the information about the safe is inside the locked safe. There must be a universal code.
There should be a serial number on the side (outside) of your safe. They can look up that safe's combo via the serial number.
What about the "MASTER CODE" for the safe model?
I don't believe their is a "Master" code per safe model, each safe has an individual factory code
@@ExtremeDIYGuyThe feds got into the Liberty by getting the master code from Liberty
They actually go that safe's unique code
If there’s a master code what’s the point? They prob can still get in it. I’m partial to mechanical even thats not 100%
Nothing is 100 % id have to agree.
Junk safe.....
I wouldn't call it a junk safe
@@ExtremeDIYGuy junk...
Contact library safe they will provide a letter from them. How it's their policy for them to provide law enforcement with the combination when they request it. Very disturbing they would do that. They will also send you a link to get off the combination list and they will "destroy" your combo from there system....if you believe that
I believe they did make a statement that they would remove records of factory codes if requested.
@@ExtremeDIYGuy good luck to you if you believe that. If you email they will forward a letter from them saying that it's their policy to give law enforcement the combo. So buyer be warned. I'm sure the lawyers will have a field day being the search warrant wasn't for the safe and they gave the combo over the phone and had no proof of who they were or if they had a warrant for the safe !
The brand I bought all had the same default code in the showroom.
Yep, that would be the display code
All brands have a master code so I really don’t see how this would do much unless you buy a lock body from a third party company
If you change the lock body, the factory code goes with it. They do not use the same factory code with each lock body.
Even though every safe has their own code the manufacturer has a master code that can open every safe thats what a master code is
To my knowledge, nobody at Liberty has stated that they DON'T use one master code for all of the safes they sell with that feature. So, swapping locks may or may not be of benefit at all. Hiding the serial number may not as well. If you know of a source that states otherwise, by all means state your source.
Liberty does not make their own lock bodies, typically, LaGard locks seem to be a popular option with them as well as Cannon. SO if you buy a LaGard to replace your, you should be fine. I seriously doubt, LaGard or any other supplier ships their locks with a single "Master" code. That would be idiotic since if that code got out, a person could get into every safe in the world with it.
@@ExtremeDIYGuy the said in their statement that they do use the same master code in every lock body.
Great info, thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
Oh my God! Someone with a cogent thought on this fiasco.
LAW ENFORCEMENT BE DAMNED
NOT A FAN, NO COPSUCKER HERE
At the federal level, hell yeah, they are nothing but a tool for the left
Give me a break if the cops have a warrant they can cut your safe open.. which would you rather have them open the safe with a combo or have them cut the safe open as long as they have a warrant they can do both your choice
Perhaps you missed my disclaimer. The intent is not to keep Law Enforcement out, it's to keep your safe from being compromised by the factory giving out the factory code by accident. Besides, if you are a law abiding citizen, and law enforcement shows up with a warrant, you should open the safe for them otherwise they will cut it open.
The safe you are demonstrating on is a Cannon. The title of the video is liberty safe. Are they the same?
The guts are basically the same, especially the lock body
Much easier to just get a change key and re-set the combination.....
You can change your code all you want. Liberty has a master code that'll open your safe regardless of how many times you change it.
Ok so what if you have an old dial combo safe?
Not sure about those, but they can be changed as well
Thanks for info
No problem
How do you protect your self from Liberty Gun safes.
Fill out their form requesting that your safes history be expunged from their records
Buy one made by Sturdy Safe.
I will give them a look, thanks@@sc2280
With the proper warrant law enforcement will get your safe opened. A locksmith can easily open a dial or digital lock.
Completely agree
Also, there are other ways to breach a safe if the feds want in they’ll get in combo or not.
As someone who has had to cut safes open due to water damage I'm not sure what the issue is wrt to the FBI. They'll just do what they always have done:
1. Get a warrant
2. Have exigent circumstances
Yes they did, the FBI had a warrant to search the house. So they legally complied. nypost.com/2023/09/07/liberty-safe-under-fire-for-giving-fbi-access-to-alleged-capitol-rioters-firearms/
The warrant was to get into the house and premises, but not to search for a safe content. Also intriguing, Liberty just complied without demand.
Liberty is done ... there profit margin will drop .😅
We shall see!