"domestic terrorist"...Yes, protest your neighbor with fire good. Protest the actual government with ZERO weapons bad. You are too dum to even know what words are. Do "terrorists" target civilians or the government? Holy retardation...
If they can do that what protects you or anyone else from unreasonable search and seizure? WHAT? What happens if you have done nothing? Additionally ... has he been proven guilty of any crime? Obviously you do not believe in 'Innocent until proven guilty." Has he been convicted? The answer is NO. Yet you presume he is guilty. Hope no one ever needs to be in court with you as a juror.
The disconnecting of internet, disabling of cameras and seizing of the electronic devices should be the real hot topic. 🔥 they didn't want anyone to see what they were doing or "finding" .
Since Liberty Safe is owned by Monony Capital Partners, an investment firm that donates exclusively to democrats, I would say they are permanently blacklisted after this. Local folks near me are suggesting finding a local locksmith that carries a lock that will fit your Liberty Safe, pay cash for it, and install it yourself if able.
I imagine that every safe of a particular model and year of manufacture has the same code installed. Backdoors are done in the lock firmware and it's very difficult to engineer a separate code for each one.
If you have your safe registered under warranty then it can be looked up without the serial number. Need to change locks and not document the new lock. Need to find a 3rd party lock that has an entirely different backup system.
This was a FISHING EXPEDITION. They would have had to describe what is in the safe and how it was used in a crime. Based on the fact there WAS NO GUN at the event, this was an abuse of a warrant
Liberty should have to pay for a professional locksmith to procure and replace every lock on every safe they've ever sold. Also, anyone who ever purchased extended warranty on their lock should get a refund. One of my safes is a Liberty and I just emailed them a request for both of those things.
This was a FISHING EXPEDITION. They would have had to describe what is in the safe and how it was used in a crime. Based on the fact there WAS NO GUN at the event, this was an abuse of a warrant
dead fish.Under red flag or martial law or ANY FAKE search warrant, cops walk in, take the guns, shoot everyone and do the due process later. When this all goes down they aint gonna be polite and most of the "COPS" will be drug gangs, illegals or chi coms. Liberty will have banks of dems manning the phones givinng out the numbers.@@molarguy
You people are clueless, are you even aware that Liberty changed their policy on this already and they are allowing you to opt out of having your code information on file in their data base? Your ignorance is amazing. Further your not the brightest bulb in the pack when you ordered a safe with an electronic lock, add in the fact yes FACT your paper work describes that Liberty Safe had a master code for your safe on file in the event that you forgot, lost or made a mistake changing your code and locked yourself out of your safe. Yes that happens several thousand time a year and every safe manufacture that sells an electronic lock has a master code for each safe sold tied to the serial number so they can assist you opening your safe. Yes Fort Knox, Cannon, American Security and the rest all have a data base with master codes for every safe they have sold with an electronic lock. You should have chosen a S+G manual dial combination lock when you bought your safe instead you made a bad choice. My two Liberty Safes have S+G manual dial combination locks on them.
thanks for doing this. Does the warranty matter if Liberty gives the code out to the Feds with minimal obstruction? Liberty's market share will crater.
The standard Sargent & Greenleaf (S&G) 3-position mechanical combination lock doesn't necessarily "suck." From a security standpoint they work just fine. They don't need batteries. They don't have electronic components that can fail. With the proper change key, changing the combination on an installed lock is trivial. In the Air Force we had S&G locks on safes and vault doors certified for use in a SCIF and our policy was to change the combination on a regular basis. It's not difficult. They got heavy use and I never saw one fail mechanically. Changing out the whole lock mechanism is a different can of worms and most definitely not so user serviceable. But these locks are pretty ubiquitous and any skilled locksmith should be able to service these. The very fact that these electronic locks have a "burned in" default back door access code that you apparently can't change or delete is disturbing. A good selling point for a good old fashioned mechanical lock, in my opinion.
If you are tech savvy you could remove the memory ee prom and read it with easily available equipment. Using a hex editor software you can peek at every bit of info on that chip. Most software savvy Red Teamers will be able to identify the code and where it’s located. Being a alterable memory device they could potentially change that Grand Master Double Secret Code. If fitted with an aftermarket e lock, just remove the serial number tag from it and bury it in a safe place for future reference. You can even place a false serial number tag on the lock.
@Subgunman Interesting take. I wondered how hard it would be to access the actual code. It can't be that sophisticated. "LISTEN FOR 6 DIGITS ON THE INPUT...COMPARE WITH STORED UNLOCK CODE....IF MATCH = YES THEN UNLOCK, ELSE DO NOTHING." Probably just one line of code with simple logic like that. Heck, it might even store the unlock code in plain text.
@@PatrickJensen-hx6lg I went from an S&G combo lock to an electronic, taking care to keep everything aligned as it was removed. I do have a change key for this lock and instructions as to how to change combo. I went to a third party electronic lock that the Federal government uses in many of its applications. If it follows standard protocol of coding then the manufacture has a back door to this lock however in the instructions there is a default grandmaster code that one instructed to change out when installing the lock. I made sure there were no serial numbers left on the "dial pad" on the outside to make tracing more difficult. Sometimes it’s easier to read the EEPROM within the lock if it’s not a part of the microprocessor and hopefully data is not encrypted.
Just because they had a warrant, for the safe, doesn’t mean liberty had to give them the code. The feds would’ve had to get a warrant for liberty safes to force them to give them the code.
@@cstgraphpads2091 They can't be arrested for requiring a warrant. As long as they provide the code when the warrant for the code is presented. They can't be charged with obstruction. Only if they resist after the warrant.
@@danbsc the cops doing that only strengthens his lawsuit against the domestic terrorists. 42 USC 1983 Civil Rights violations. 18 USC 241 Conspiracy to violate rights, they definitely conspired against him. And 18 USC 242 Deprivation of rights under color of law. Laws that overlap the constitution are not enforceable legally. Corrupt courts, DAs, and justices have been able to individually bypass that
And all of us who purchased Liberty safes thought we had a higher level of security and privacy than a gun cabinet. Well, we were all wrong. Liberty, without even a fight for their customer, handed over the code and now coming out saying "But, but, they had a piece of paper, we had no choice!". I call BS.
I've seen 2 Locksmiths state that on the first page of the paperwork you get with your safe, they say that your combination is on file with them. Liberty themselves says 4,000+ people call them per year for their forgotten combo. Now they should've waited for an actual warrant for them to give the info. That said, the Feds will open your safe regardless of if they give them the numbers or not. That said, MOST safe companies retain the original combination or how to reset the safe etc.
@@ClickClack_Bam - who cares what your locksmiths says. it wasnt Liberties code to give away. Now the feds can open any Liberty safe they want without effort. if the feds want it open, thats between the safe owner, the feds and a judge. Liberty is not part of the conversation. These aholes gave away something without a court order. as a gun owner this should alarm the hell out of you!
@@ClickClack_Bam For electronic locks that is true, dial combination locks they won't have your combination as that is set when the safe is installed and only you will have that combination unless you allowed them to write it down which would be stupid. I own two liberty safes and both of them were installed by a locksmith and they set the code we wanted and did not write it down. The only. ones who know the combination to our safes are my wife and I.
Awesome video and thank you for doing it. It's insane that they didn't at least require a warrant for the individual code. If only for their own liability protection. That company has burned our trust by blindly trusting a fed who said "Just trust me bro. We got a warrant."
@@captainobvious8665 Probably from the "I'll make my own assumptions so I can be angry at something" information center. Like most of the people commenting here.
Fort Knox, American Security, Cannon and the rest of the safe companies all have a data base with a master code for every safe they have sold with an electronic lock, further if that man had a Fort Knox, Cannon, American Security or other brand you would be railing against that brand instead. They have all assisted law enforcement over the years, you just never heard about it. At least Liberty Safe has changed their policy and allow you to opt out of them having any codes on file, but they also tell you if you lock yourself out they can not help you and you will have to call a locksmith.
The fact that there is a back door secret code built in to a Safe's locking mechanism is egregious in itself. Time to change them out for mechanical locking hardware that no one can abuse.
They could have told the feds that they wouldn't release the code without a subpoena... Would have saved them from getting dragged... But they locked the boot hard
IF that back door code applies to all their safes, then the IFB has access to every safe that has a digital lock by that company. IF an owner is on a "hit" list of some sort, then the BFI could, theoretically, go into that owner's house when not home and plant some evidence in the safe and come back with a warrant, because they would know what was in the safe, and the owner would not have a prayer in court. BEWARE! folks, it could happen to you.
Having entered the wrong code on my Winchester safe two times in a row, it locked me out. Winchester provided me a "one time" pass code to open it. I immediately changed to my own combination. Didn't save the secret code, I'd like to see if it would open it again. I was told it wouldn't...FJB and FTFBI. Thanks for your time producing this video. Subbed. Guns and Gadgets sent me here.
even if they had a warrant for locked boxes on the premises, they did not have a warrant or subpoena for liberty safe to give up the code. They did it voluntarily, they had no legal obligation to do so. total scumbag company.
100% agree! They could have stood up but they caved. If we all don't start standing up we will ost assuredly be enslaved. The democrats don't care about freedom. They only care about their sick godless ideology.
That's not the point. The point is there is a code to unlock Liberty safes that the buyer didn't create. Not only did Liberty give that out when they were not required to but hackers could EASILY get this code and then have access to all Liberty safes.
@tjames525 watch the video it’s not a universal code. It’s a dif code for each lock. And also yes they will just drill but add layers when and where you can.
@@tjames525 Anyone that knows safes, knows that this has been standard practice for over 100 years. Every manufacturer has kept a record of their codes for every serial number. That is to allow for certified locksmiths to get codes for when someone forgets or dies and to allow for non-destructive opening of the safe. This is nothing new.
Omg, thank you so much for this video. I have two safes in my shop. American Security and a Liberty. I've just completed ordering the parts to replace my locks on the Liberty, of course. I don't care if the Feds gave me a warrant. You aren't getting an access code unless you fight me for one it. Liberty made this too easy, plus January 6th?! Seriously? The Fedsurection! You're going to give access to the Feds, in what was a stagged Federal insurection, with hundreds of undercover Feds, and local Poloce officers storming the Capitol?! What a disgrace of a company.
As for myself, have an understanding of electronics, I do not have any knowledge of these locks. But the manufacturer of these locks can design the electronic locks that their Serial number would embedded on the board(s) that could be read say by RFID chip. I could think that there are many ways to enbed backdoor logic that only the manufacturer would know about, meaning they can exploit these items to get them open. You can't trust them when they have already rolled over to the FBI.
A few days before all this came to light, I traded in my Liberty safe (owned for 12 years) for a different Liberty safe. My old safe had a very reliable S&G mechanical lock, and the new one had a Securam top-lit. I had the dealer, a certified locksmith, swap the two locks, and he did so in just a few minutes. I tested the lock, it worked, and Bob's your uncle. Now the lock on my safe IS NOT electronic and IS NOT the one associated with the safe I own. It would seem I'm reasonably protected from Liberty giving out my "backdoor" code. All that aside, if the Feds want in my safe and get a warrant to that effect, they're getting in. If they get the code, the safe goes undamaged. If they don't, they destroy the safe.
Good chance the serial number is stored in the memory of the keypad. Actually the code unlock code, serial number, and your personal code are probably stored in the lock itself. The small cable between the keypad and the lock is probably just a communication cable and has no way of manipulating the lock directly. The keypad is most certainly just for data entry and has no actual unlocking intelligence. That is the way that most security systems that I know of work.
I think you're right. I've done some research and I came to the same conclusion. The keypad is like a computer keyboard. You can change out the keyboard on a computer, but you still need the password to get into the files on the computer. Same with a safe. The keypad is nothing more than an input device and the locking mechanism is the only thing that stores the codes. Otherwise you could just buy a new keypad and break into any safe by entering 123456 or 000000. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
It's crazy to me that Liberty thinks they have the right to be involved in ANY decision on what people can do with their safes that they BOUGHT... People are all hung-up on the "warrant" issue... it's NOT their property... it's NOT their decision because its NOT their damn safe!!!
I have a Liberty safe. Honest question...why can't you pop off the numbers lock on the front, take the wire bundle, open up the wires, apply power, and open up the lock body? The numbers lock needs a code but I suspect the output is common between locks.
and have a semi-friend or distant relative with a different name and address buy it for you, that way - your name can't come up as a person the lock was sold to. :) - otherwise, it's not that much of an extra step to find you in their customer database.
Personally, I think Liberty should send EVERYONE who has bought one of their safes with a digital lock (we already know Liberty knows who has them or we wouldn’t be watching these videos) a rebate of $150 so their customers can change their locks! Of course, the customer would have to understand that Liberty, any government agency, nor anyone else would be able to get into their safe without force. WHICH IS WHY YOU BUY A FRIKIN’ SAFE TO BEGIN WITH!!!
As a 20 year military veteran, I used and changed many S&G mechanical locks and have never had a problem with them. I have seen the S&G locks that some gun safes come with and they seem a bit cheaper then what the military used.
To me, whether or not they should have given out the back door access code is irrelevant. The fact that they KEEP a back door access code is what will lead to their bankruptcy.
So can’t I keep the same lock on my Liberty safe and just peel off the stickers with the serial numbers? How would anybody know which safe it is if I never registered my name to my safe for their warranty?
' Aces code" was actually a rotary mechanical combination assigned to that particular safe when it left there factory. this code can be changed to a personal code of your choice by a lock smith. the digital lock does have a proprietary backdoor "reset" code that will work on any of there digital locks. in short, LIBERTY safe is a preictally safe place to store your BUD LIGHT!!!
Yeah, I had no problem doing away with the electronic lok in lieu of a mechanical lock. I do understand even these can be defeated but it will take time.
I have been looking for an additional safe, now I know a brand (Liberty Safe) that will not be considered. Makes me want to remove the name from my safes also. New lock, no name, no serial number. Put snug in a closet, they can open it, but not easily. Hey Liberty, I hear Bud , target and Disney will be your friends, 2A is not.
Great Video. Thanks to Jared at Guns and Gadgets for mentioning that you were going to make this video. I’ve never watched your channel until now. I just subscribed. Thank you! I just opened my Liberty Safe. There is a serial number on the edge of the door by the fire rating, made in the USA, etc stickers. It’s on a sticker too. I’m guessing there is no way for Liberty Safe to know what safe is where if you didn’t fill out the warranty card. Unless there is a S/N outside the safe there is no way for the feds to know either. So did you fill out the warranty card?!? I still might changed my locks. And maybe fill one safe with rocks and not chance the locks. LOL!
Grind off and remove all markings from your liberty safe and keep the serial numbers and important info elsewhere. Other family or friends you can trust. Maybe a mason jar buried in the yard.
I think what occurred was really disturbing. I will relate a story from NJ. Several years ago a man's wife called police on him. The police arrive and see he has 2 gun safes. He refuses to open them. In the end, the local PD called the fire department, who used the jaws of life to pry open the safes. The point is if the Feds or local LEOs want in, they will find a way. I guess hiding your stuff in a secret place would be the only other option. We live in dangerous times. Stay safe, no pun intended!
I would like to know what in your opinion are the best safes out there. From videos I have seen it seems like most gun safes are really weak against cutting and pry attacks. Seems to me like they are really only useful against smash and grab robberies. I bet you could provide some good insight on this topic if you want to make a video about it?
If you have a buddy that is the same situation (with a Liberty Safe) as you might be - for an extra extra layer of obfuscation you can buy the lockset for your friend and vice versa - so if an enterprising agent were to find or come across purchase records for your new lock set they wouldn't be for the one you have installed. Nice to know that the locksets from Securam aren't stupid expensive either.
If the keypad alone is replaced will the default code work to open the safe ? I bought a liberty safe floor model for 250.00, As of today I have emptied it and stored/hidden/stashed all my guns somewhere else and put a big F@#K YOU ! sign in it. Now it's just a big paper weight .
The weakest link is the electronic lock. There are back door codes on locks made by certain manufacturers. The reset code as it’s called is the same code per each manufacturer. I have had "high security" door lock by a major company known that listed this "grand master code" in their installation manual. The manual was available only via email and not posted on their web site manuals page. Most decent safes from major manufacturers will use the standard S & G bolt hole layout and most decent e-locks will fit most of the safes. You can also have fun with nosey intruders by equipping the safe with a device that will dispense tear gas when the door is opened past a certain point. It’s not illegal and no warnings are needed on safe to the presence of the trap.
Maybe not all safes but probably the same master code for a batch from the same group. Maybe a different backdoor code for every 50-100 locks. Or it changed every month of manufacture
Question: What if i ask my friend who lives across the country to order a new lock for me and then ships that lock to me? I absolutely don't encourage anyone to do this. DON'T DO IT!! Oh and FU Liberty Safes and FU feds.
Liberty's hands were not tied. The warrant is issued to the suspect. Liberty is an uninterested third party. They could EASILY had said "no....we're not going to cooperate. Open it yourself." Perfectly within their rights. UNLESS they were subpoenaed to provide it and they weren't. They assumed there was a valid warrant (likely was) but couldn't have known if it was a justified warrant. How do they know it wasn't a FISA type warrant that was illegally generated? They don't but they made a choice. They need to change their name because if nothing, Liberty is not a concept they are protecting.
I am in the market for a safe. I am glad this happened as now I will NEVER even look at liberty safe. I like to buy American, but I wonder, what if I buy a safe built outside the U.S.? (Not china, but canada maybe?)Then that company would not be obligated to cave to ANY request by any of the alphabet groups. I would still have access to a master code if needed, though.
Put the S/N stickers from your old lock on your new lock when you install it. Then blame those guys from the government with "breaking" your lock when they can't get it to open. Not your fault they failed....
Change my combo a while back mechanical style and not a liberty safe. Locksmith charge me $150 . Worth it. Had it changed to a combo that I can actually remember 😂😂.
How does this work if you have a Redhead / Bass pro dial combination safe, will they give your combo with the thugs giving a serial number? and you can also lock your dial ! Jack boots are back, they work for a different master.....
Tossing a Liberty Safe is going to hit much harder than a Yeti Cooler, I think future sales will be impacted, crushed I hope, but those existing ones? nah excuses will be made.
I had no idea it was so easy to completely screw someone’s safe. All I have to do is “bump” the lock off and rip the wires right out and they are completely screwed and the safe is useless. Wow! Who on earth designed this lock system??? Sorry, but I think I’m going to have nothing but mechanical locks on my safes.
Thanks for all the great information on changing locks. I have a Liberty safe and I will be changing the lock ASAP. I have one question. If I replace the lock that came with the safe with the same thing or one of the three you recommended, do I need to change out the back or can I just replace the key pad?
A reasoned video. I hate propaganda on both sides. One small detail - if it is a mechanical safe, it is not a "back door," but simply the combination which they keep on file at the factory to help owners access the safe. If their is a digital back-door, they should be sued out of existence...
Beyond the the malfeasance of Liberty in their assistance to the Fed thugs, the other problem with these is the cheap membrane numerical switch pads used on these locks. All will eventually fail due to the plastic membrane degradation and aging over time. A mechanical lock will outlive any owner, but only about 10 to maybe 20 years is all for any electronic one.
My experience with setting mechanical locks on shipboard safes was somewhat different to that as stated in the video. I found the procedure was quite simple to do once you had the "key" that was readily available.
I am in MN and am an amateur lock sport enthusiast.. id be glad to help secure your safe free of charge. All electronic locks have backdoors I have successfully switched out three electronic locks with sergeant and Greenleaf mechanical locks this week
It would be simple if friends have similar locks, they could swap locks and make note of the serial number. Liberty could steal provide a backdoor code.
Is the data signal that goes thru the cable between the keypad device and the bolt device, when the keypad sends the unlock signal, is that an encrypted data protocol/packet or something that is transmitted the same exact data signal with every unlock? (For example, a 20 year old BMW with an ignition key will pass a new unique packet with each start to the ignition module and that packet agreement would get updated with every start.) Seems Liberty could redeem themselves by having a new option to allow owners to opt out of any data retention on an owners locking device. i.e. an owner would have no warranty and the associated serial number on file would be deleted, therefore if someone called in and demanded the combo on that serial number the manufacturer would not have it. I own a Liberty electronic safe from new and I had no idea there was a backdoor combo available. I can understand a manual dial combo being on file since the new safe might lose the enclosed paperwork. As brought up by other commenter, the firmware of the keypad might contain the serial number and/or you might be able to punch in another secret code to beep out the serial number digits.
I find this whole mess disturbing. I realize that everyone's situation is different but unless you are a collector, I don't understand the purpose behind a gun safe for most people. Call me crazy but I want my guns where I can lay hands on at least one at a moment's notice. To that end our guns are scattered & hidden in various locations around our property. No casual observer is going to spot a gun in our home to use or steal. Sure someone, like LE, who has the time & the intent to really search is going to find them over time, but no run of the mill burglar will. Now that everyone has seen the vulnerability of gun safes, I hope more people will start thinking outside the box about where to keep their guns. Hiding a gun is not as hard as you might think if you use your imagination. One is none. Two is one.
Tell me if wrong but if you never registered the safe couldnt you simply remove the serial number stickers from the safe itself and the lock set? Then nothing would be traceable on any parts. Only if you never registered of course.
I highly recommend a Teflon knife to remove the sticker that has the serial number on it and then putting that serial number on the lock you put on your safe. This way the serial numbers appear to match even though Liberty will not be able to unlock your safe... also highly recommend a mechanical lock over electronic locks... there are no backdoors on a good 3 dial.
So, I have a Cannon safe and when it was purchased new I removed the inner panel and found a code on that lock. That code was the default unlock code. So, right now I use the default code to unlock my safe and my wife uses the programmed code we placed into it. I do not know if that is the secret default code that the manufacturer keeps but it does work. FYI
Guess its back to burying guns on granddads property in a metal container with other pieces of scrap metal buried around the property too. Lol, the old ways never go out of style.
It would be a lot of effort to serial all the circuit boards. Instead the serial would be in the firmware on the micro controller. Bypassing anything that uses a micro controller is quite easy for those of us that work with these things. Companies like Sony and Microsoft were never able to protect their consols, so a gun safe manufacture isnt going to be able to either. The good news is, there is little reward and a lot of risk, so the effort isnt going to happen on any large scale. For those of us that know electronics, its not the safe thats going to stop us, its your willingness to use them agaisnt me that stops me. Over what?. A mecanical device (gun) that is simple to make?. So much safer to make a gun, then to try and steal one.
Liberty Safe is owned by an investment company called Monomoy Capital Partners LP. A company that is notorious giving donations to many Democrat politicians that are very anti-gun.
And that back door ass code has something to do with the routing code on your bank account! You open up the checkbook and the back door opens automatically!
So they helped the feds access a domestic terrorists arsenal? ...I don't see the problem.
"domestic terrorist"...Yes, protest your neighbor with fire good. Protest the actual government with ZERO weapons bad. You are too dum to even know what words are. Do "terrorists" target civilians or the government? Holy retardation...
If they can do that what protects you or anyone else from unreasonable search and seizure? WHAT? What happens if you have done nothing? Additionally ... has he been proven guilty of any crime? Obviously you do not believe in 'Innocent until proven guilty." Has he been convicted? The answer is NO. Yet you presume he is guilty. Hope no one ever needs to be in court with you as a juror.
@jeffdixon321 this wasn't unreasonable though.
@@jeffdixon321 they're gathering evidence. Why are you defending a domestic terrorist though?
The fbi and atf are domestic terrorists dude and here ya are defending them lol Jesus Christ
The disconnecting of internet, disabling of cameras and seizing of the electronic devices should be the real hot topic. 🔥 they didn't want anyone to see what they were doing or "finding" .
It's war.
or planting
There can be more than one "hot topic".
Yup
@cab6273 no there can't be when clowns like yourself are only talking about 1.
Since Liberty Safe is owned by Monony Capital Partners, an investment firm that donates exclusively to democrats, I would say they are permanently blacklisted after this. Local folks near me are suggesting finding a local locksmith that carries a lock that will fit your Liberty Safe, pay cash for it, and install it yourself if able.
YEP. installing it yourself IS the only sure way that no one but you has the codes..
LIBERTY SAFES
just voluntarily put themselves
OUT OF BUISNESS 💀
We should organize a huge lock exchange. Guys can all trade locks and now they got no clue whatvyour back door code is
I imagine that every safe of a particular model and year of manufacture has the same code installed. Backdoors are done in the lock firmware and it's very difficult to engineer a separate code for each one.
If you have your safe registered under warranty then it can be looked up without the serial number. Need to change locks and not document the new lock. Need to find a 3rd party lock that has an entirely different backup system.
Good old combination lock. Problem solved.
@@sprky777good point
This was a FISHING EXPEDITION. They would have had to describe what is in the safe and how it was used in a crime. Based on the fact there WAS NO GUN at the event, this was an abuse of a warrant
Liberty should have to pay for a professional locksmith to procure and replace every lock on every safe they've ever sold. Also, anyone who ever purchased extended warranty on their lock should get a refund. One of my safes is a Liberty and I just emailed them a request for both of those things.
This was a FISHING EXPEDITION. They would have had to describe what is in the safe and how it was used in a crime. Based on the fact there WAS NO GUN at the event, this was an abuse of a warrant
Store useless crap in the Safe. Put valuables elsewhere.
dead fish.Under red flag or martial law or ANY FAKE search warrant, cops walk in, take the guns, shoot everyone and do the due process later. When this all goes down they aint gonna be polite and most of the "COPS" will be drug gangs, illegals or chi coms. Liberty will have banks of dems manning the phones givinng out the numbers.@@molarguy
You people are clueless, are you even aware that Liberty changed their policy on this already and they are allowing you to opt out of having your code information on file in their data base? Your ignorance is amazing. Further your not the brightest bulb in the pack when you ordered a safe with an electronic lock, add in the fact yes FACT your paper work describes that Liberty Safe had a master code for your safe on file in the event that you forgot, lost or made a mistake changing your code and locked yourself out of your safe.
Yes that happens several thousand time a year and every safe manufacture that sells an electronic lock has a master code for each safe sold tied to the serial number so they can assist you opening your safe. Yes Fort Knox, Cannon, American Security and the rest all have a data base with master codes for every safe they have sold with an electronic lock.
You should have chosen a S+G manual dial combination lock when you bought your safe instead you made a bad choice. My two Liberty Safes have S+G manual dial combination locks on them.
You know what to do patriots. Time for another boycott because they're very effective when we all stand together united as we should be.
thanks for doing this. Does the warranty matter if Liberty gives the code out to the Feds with minimal obstruction? Liberty's market share will crater.
The standard Sargent & Greenleaf (S&G) 3-position mechanical combination lock doesn't necessarily "suck." From a security standpoint they work just fine. They don't need batteries. They don't have electronic components that can fail. With the proper change key, changing the combination on an installed lock is trivial. In the Air Force we had S&G locks on safes and vault doors certified for use in a SCIF and our policy was to change the combination on a regular basis. It's not difficult. They got heavy use and I never saw one fail mechanically. Changing out the whole lock mechanism is a different can of worms and most definitely not so user serviceable. But these locks are pretty ubiquitous and any skilled locksmith should be able to service these. The very fact that these electronic locks have a "burned in" default back door access code that you apparently can't change or delete is disturbing. A good selling point for a good old fashioned mechanical lock, in my opinion.
If you are tech savvy you could remove the memory ee prom and read it with easily available equipment. Using a hex editor software you can peek at every bit of info on that chip. Most software savvy Red Teamers will be able to identify the code and where it’s located. Being a alterable memory device they could potentially change that Grand Master Double Secret Code. If fitted with an aftermarket e lock, just remove the serial number tag from it and bury it in a safe place for future reference. You can even place a false serial number tag on the lock.
@Subgunman Interesting take. I wondered how hard it would be to access the actual code. It can't be that sophisticated. "LISTEN FOR 6 DIGITS ON THE INPUT...COMPARE WITH STORED UNLOCK CODE....IF MATCH = YES THEN UNLOCK, ELSE DO NOTHING." Probably just one line of code with simple logic like that. Heck, it might even store the unlock code in plain text.
@@PatrickJensen-hx6lg I went from an S&G combo lock to an electronic, taking care to keep everything aligned as it was removed. I do have a change key for this lock and instructions as to how to change combo. I went to a third party electronic lock that the Federal government uses in many of its applications. If it follows standard protocol of coding then the manufacture has a back door to this lock however in the instructions there is a default grandmaster code that one instructed to change out when installing the lock. I made sure there were no serial numbers left on the "dial pad" on the outside to make tracing more difficult. Sometimes it’s easier to read the EEPROM within the lock if it’s not a part of the microprocessor and hopefully data is not encrypted.
Just because they had a warrant, for the safe, doesn’t mean liberty had to give them the code. The feds would’ve had to get a warrant for liberty safes to force them to give them the code.
If you don't open the safe, the cops will cut the hinges. They have been doing that since prohibition.
It does, otherwise they could have been arrested for obstruction and their business would've collapsed.
@@cstgraphpads2091 They can't be arrested for requiring a warrant. As long as they provide the code when the warrant for the code is presented. They can't be charged with obstruction. Only if they resist after the warrant.
@@danbsc the cops doing that only strengthens his lawsuit against the domestic terrorists. 42 USC 1983 Civil Rights violations. 18 USC 241 Conspiracy to violate rights, they definitely conspired against him. And 18 USC 242 Deprivation of rights under color of law. Laws that overlap the constitution are not enforceable legally. Corrupt courts, DAs, and justices have been able to individually bypass that
@@danbsc that works for me. Let them work. VSO has a good video about it
Easy… never buy a Liberty Safe. No longer an issue…
Good info Opie in the Smokies. If Apple can tell the feds to pound sand, Liberty Safe should have done the same thing as Big Tech.
The left fights tooth and nail, our supposed allies, not so much.
I do not think that is the case... I
Swap locks with a buddy save both of you a little dough.
Literally works perfect.
If you trust that buddy, and he trusts you.
Could you not literally pop the the front key pad off cut the wires reconnect the wires to the key pad with no numbers ?
And all of us who purchased Liberty safes thought we had a higher level of security and privacy than a gun cabinet. Well, we were all wrong. Liberty, without even a fight for their customer, handed over the code and now coming out saying "But, but, they had a piece of paper, we had no choice!". I call BS.
I've seen 2 Locksmiths state that on the first page of the paperwork you get with your safe, they say that your combination is on file with them.
Liberty themselves says 4,000+ people call them per year for their forgotten combo.
Now they should've waited for an actual warrant for them to give the info.
That said, the Feds will open your safe regardless of if they give them the numbers or not.
That said, MOST safe companies retain the original combination or how to reset the safe etc.
My issue with this all is that Liberty donated $400,000 to Democrat anti-gun politicians in this past election.
@@ClickClack_Bam - who cares what your locksmiths says. it wasnt Liberties code to give away. Now the feds can open any Liberty safe they want without effort.
if the feds want it open, thats between the safe owner, the feds and a judge. Liberty is not part of the conversation. These aholes gave away something without a court order.
as a gun owner this should alarm the hell out of you!
well, isn't that interesting ?........😮
@@ClickClack_Bam For electronic locks that is true, dial combination locks they won't have your combination as that is set when the safe is installed and only you will have that combination unless you allowed them to write it down which would be stupid. I own two liberty safes and both of them were installed by a locksmith and they set the code we wanted and did not write it down. The only. ones who know the combination to our safes are my wife and I.
Awesome video and thank you for doing it. It's insane that they didn't at least require a warrant for the individual code. If only for their own liability protection. That company has burned our trust by blindly trusting a fed who said "Just trust me bro. We got a warrant."
You really think how you it happened was that simple? This is like looking at an iceberg. This just a small part of this whole investigation.
They literally required a copy of the warrant (and always do) before handing over the code. Where are you getting your info?
@@captainobvious8665 Probably from the "I'll make my own assumptions so I can be angry at something" information center. Like most of the people commenting here.
Fort Knox, American Security, Cannon and the rest of the safe companies all have a data base with a master code for every safe they have sold with an electronic lock, further if that man had a Fort Knox, Cannon, American Security or other brand you would be railing against that brand instead. They have all assisted law enforcement over the years, you just never heard about it.
At least Liberty Safe has changed their policy and allow you to opt out of them having any codes on file, but they also tell you if you lock yourself out they can not help you and you will have to call a locksmith.
Thank you Opie! Earned a subscriber
The fact that there is a back door secret code built in to a Safe's locking mechanism is egregious in itself. Time to change them out for mechanical locking hardware that no one can abuse.
They could have told the feds that they wouldn't release the code without a subpoena... Would have saved them from getting dragged... But they locked the boot hard
IF that back door code applies to all their safes, then the IFB has access to every safe that has a digital lock by that company. IF an owner is on a "hit" list of some sort, then the BFI could, theoretically, go into that owner's house when not home and plant some evidence in the safe and come back with a warrant, because they would know what was in the safe, and the owner would not have a prayer in court. BEWARE! folks, it could happen to you.
Having entered the wrong code on my Winchester safe two times in a row, it locked me out. Winchester provided me a "one time" pass code to open it. I immediately changed to my own combination. Didn't save the secret code, I'd like to see if it would open it again. I was told it wouldn't...FJB and FTFBI. Thanks for your time producing this video. Subbed. Guns and Gadgets sent me here.
even if they had a warrant for locked boxes on the premises, they did not have a warrant or subpoena for liberty safe to give up the code. They did it voluntarily, they had no legal obligation to do so. total scumbag company.
100% agree! They could have stood up but they caved. If we all don't start standing up we will ost assuredly be enslaved. The democrats don't care about freedom. They only care about their sick godless ideology.
Code or not, they could just drill it. More scary is that Liberty has backdoor codes.
Don't do anything illegal or keep anything illegal in your safe or home.
That's not the point. The point is there is a code to unlock Liberty safes that the buyer didn't create. Not only did Liberty give that out when they were not required to but hackers could EASILY get this code and then have access to all Liberty safes.
@tjames525 watch the video it’s not a universal code. It’s a dif code for each lock.
And also yes they will just drill but add layers when and where you can.
@@tjames525 Anyone that knows safes, knows that this has been standard practice for over 100 years. Every manufacturer has kept a record of their codes for every serial number. That is to allow for certified locksmiths to get codes for when someone forgets or dies and to allow for non-destructive opening of the safe. This is nothing new.
It blows my mind that it's possibly easier for the FBI to get the backdoor code than for the owner.
All the locksmiths are thanking Liberty....
Omg, thank you so much for this video. I have two safes in my shop. American Security and a Liberty. I've just completed ordering the parts to replace my locks on the Liberty, of course.
I don't care if the Feds gave me a warrant. You aren't getting an access code unless you fight me for one it. Liberty made this too easy, plus January 6th?! Seriously? The Fedsurection! You're going to give access to the Feds, in what was a stagged Federal insurection, with hundreds of undercover Feds, and local Poloce officers storming the Capitol?! What a disgrace of a company.
They will roll over you and make you disappear. Dude, you do not want to die wearing a silly tinfoil hat.
As for myself, have an understanding of electronics, I do not have any knowledge of these locks. But the manufacturer of these locks can design the electronic locks that their Serial number would embedded on the board(s) that could be read say by RFID chip. I could think that there are many ways to enbed backdoor logic that only the manufacturer would know about, meaning they can exploit these items to get them open. You can't trust them when they have already rolled over to the FBI.
Excellent point and fantastic reason for switching to a mechanical
LOVE the little hidden msg for the feds!!!😂😂
A few days before all this came to light, I traded in my Liberty safe (owned for 12 years) for a different Liberty safe. My old safe had a very reliable S&G mechanical lock, and the new one had a Securam top-lit. I had the dealer, a certified locksmith, swap the two locks, and he did so in just a few minutes. I tested the lock, it worked, and Bob's your uncle. Now the lock on my safe IS NOT electronic and IS NOT the one associated with the safe I own. It would seem I'm reasonably protected from Liberty giving out my "backdoor" code.
All that aside, if the Feds want in my safe and get a warrant to that effect, they're getting in. If they get the code, the safe goes undamaged. If they don't, they destroy the safe.
Good chance the serial number is stored in the memory of the keypad. Actually the code unlock code, serial number, and your personal code are probably stored in the lock itself. The small cable between the keypad and the lock is probably just a communication cable and has no way of manipulating the lock directly. The keypad is most certainly just for data entry and has no actual unlocking intelligence. That is the way that most security systems that I know of work.
I think you're right. I've done some research and I came to the same conclusion. The keypad is like a computer keyboard. You can change out the keyboard on a computer, but you still need the password to get into the files on the computer. Same with a safe. The keypad is nothing more than an input device and the locking mechanism is the only thing that stores the codes. Otherwise you could just buy a new keypad and break into any safe by entering 123456 or 000000. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
It's crazy to me that Liberty thinks they have the right to be involved in ANY decision on what people can do with their safes that they BOUGHT...
People are all hung-up on the "warrant" issue... it's NOT their property... it's NOT their decision because its NOT their damn safe!!!
like the feds can not pick a gun safes combo?
heck kids as young as 10 can get past most every lock made.
I have a Liberty safe. Honest question...why can't you pop off the numbers lock on the front, take the wire bundle, open up the wires, apply power, and open up the lock body? The numbers lock needs a code but I suspect the output is common between locks.
and have a semi-friend or distant relative with a different name and address buy it for you, that way - your name can't come up as a person the lock was sold to. :) - otherwise, it's not that much of an extra step to find you in their customer database.
Removing serial numbers severs the connection for master code. Add layers where ya can.
Order the lock and have it warrantied through your employer
Personally, I think Liberty should send EVERYONE who has bought one of their safes with a digital lock (we already know Liberty knows who has them or we wouldn’t be watching these videos) a rebate of $150 so their customers can change their locks! Of course, the customer would have to understand that Liberty, any government agency, nor anyone else would be able to get into their safe without force. WHICH IS WHY YOU BUY A FRIKIN’ SAFE TO BEGIN WITH!!!
Should've never been a backdoor code
The hazard/bonus of electronic technology.
As a 20 year military veteran, I used and changed many S&G mechanical locks and have never had a problem with them. I have seen the S&G locks that some gun safes come with and they seem a bit cheaper then what the military used.
To me, whether or not they should have given out the back door access code is irrelevant. The fact that they KEEP a back door access code is what will lead to their bankruptcy.
Yeah I’m avoiding that company now
So can’t I keep the same lock on my Liberty safe and just peel off the stickers with the serial numbers? How would anybody know which safe it is if I never registered my name to my safe for their warranty?
There are times I wish the FBI was disbanded.
' Aces code" was actually a rotary mechanical combination assigned to that particular safe when it left there factory. this code can be changed to a personal code of your choice by a lock smith. the digital lock does have a proprietary backdoor "reset" code that will work on any of there digital locks. in short, LIBERTY safe is a preictally safe place to store your BUD LIGHT!!!
I have a $7k Liberty safe can I convert mine to a safe "save"? My safe is worthless now to me. Such a bad deal for us.
Thank you for explaining all of this so clearly. Does a MECHANICAL lock have a back door code also? My safe is like 24 years old!
I bought a Liberty gun safe two years ago.The first thing I did was change the lock so I am the only one who has access to the lock code.
Yeah, I had no problem doing away with the electronic lok in lieu of a mechanical lock. I do understand even these can be defeated but it will take time.
I have been looking for an additional safe, now I know a brand (Liberty Safe) that will not be considered. Makes me want to remove the name from my safes also. New lock, no name, no serial number. Put snug in a closet, they can open it, but not easily. Hey Liberty, I hear Bud , target and Disney will be your friends, 2A is not.
Great Video. Thanks to Jared at Guns and Gadgets for mentioning that you were going to make this video. I’ve never watched your channel until now. I just subscribed. Thank you!
I just opened my Liberty Safe. There is a serial number on the edge of the door by the fire rating, made in the USA, etc stickers. It’s on a sticker too.
I’m guessing there is no way for Liberty Safe to know what safe is where if you didn’t fill out the warranty card. Unless there is a S/N outside the safe there is no way for the feds to know either.
So did you fill out the warranty card?!?
I still might changed my locks.
And maybe fill one safe with rocks and not chance the locks. LOL!
F liberty safe. I always wanted a fat boy safe from them but not after this. I'll spend my hard earned money elsewhere.
Grind off and remove all markings from your liberty safe and keep the serial numbers and important info elsewhere. Other family or friends you can trust. Maybe a mason jar buried in the yard.
I think what occurred was really disturbing. I will relate a story from NJ. Several years ago a man's wife called police on him. The police arrive and see he has 2 gun safes. He refuses to open them. In the end, the local PD called the fire department, who used the jaws of life to pry open the safes. The point is if the Feds or local LEOs want in, they will find a way. I guess hiding your stuff in a secret place would be the only other option. We live in dangerous times. Stay safe, no pun intended!
After what liberty has done the hell with them go to your local fabrication shop and have one made
I would like to know what in your opinion are the best safes out there. From videos I have seen it seems like most gun safes are really weak against cutting and pry attacks. Seems to me like they are really only useful against smash and grab robberies. I bet you could provide some good insight on this topic if you want to make a video about it?
The safes that will actually prevent someone determined cost more than my non bud light beer budget can afford currently lol.
Most gun safes aren't for robbery prevention.
@@OpieInTheSmokiesyup. Fort Knox top safe Costs around 50k with all the bells and whistles. 😱
If you have a buddy that is the same situation (with a Liberty Safe) as you might be - for an extra extra layer of obfuscation you can buy the lockset for your friend and vice versa - so if an enterprising agent were to find or come across purchase records for your new lock set they wouldn't be for the one you have installed. Nice to know that the locksets from Securam aren't stupid expensive either.
Underrated comment
If the keypad alone is replaced will the default code work to open the safe ?
I bought a liberty safe floor model for 250.00, As of today I have emptied it and
stored/hidden/stashed all my guns somewhere else and put a big F@#K YOU ! sign in it.
Now it's just a big paper weight .
The weakest link is the electronic lock. There are back door codes on locks made by certain manufacturers. The reset code as it’s called is the same code per each manufacturer. I have had "high security" door lock by a major company known that listed this "grand master code" in their installation manual. The manual was available only via email and not posted on their web site manuals page. Most decent safes from major manufacturers will use the standard S & G bolt hole layout and most decent e-locks will fit most of the safes. You can also have fun with nosey intruders by equipping the safe with a device that will dispense tear gas when the door is opened past a certain point. It’s not illegal and no warnings are needed on safe to the presence of the trap.
🤦♂️what happened to duel
Mechanical dials
Liberty does not believe in liberty it seems. Bud Lite the sob's
I guess it depends on who the thieves are. If they’re individual “self employed” thieves or government thieves.
They need to get the Bud Lite treatment
They need to deal directly with the owner. The Federal borough of Intimidation can go pound sand
Why don't they give you the master code with the purchase of a new safe?
Probably the same code for every safe is my guess?
Maybe not all safes but probably the same master code for a batch from the same group. Maybe a different backdoor code for every 50-100 locks. Or it changed every month of manufacture
Great video! I think Im going to make a video too.
The default code has been 123456 for ever... unless you change it that's what the default is...
Question: What if i ask my friend who lives across the country to order a new lock for me and then ships that lock to me?
I absolutely don't encourage anyone to do this. DON'T DO IT!!
Oh and FU Liberty Safes and FU feds.
Liberty's hands were not tied. The warrant is issued to the suspect. Liberty is an uninterested third party. They could EASILY had said "no....we're not going to cooperate. Open it yourself." Perfectly within their rights. UNLESS they were subpoenaed to provide it and they weren't. They assumed there was a valid warrant (likely was) but couldn't have known if it was a justified warrant. How do they know it wasn't a FISA type warrant that was illegally generated? They don't but they made a choice. They need to change their name because if nothing, Liberty is not a concept they are protecting.
Simple Marine Corps training will inform you…Do not keep all of your firearms in one location. Have multiple weapons locations.
I am in the market for a safe. I am glad this happened as now I will NEVER even look at liberty safe. I like to buy American, but I wonder, what if I buy a safe built outside the U.S.? (Not china, but canada maybe?)Then that company would not be obligated to cave to ANY request by any of the alphabet groups. I would still have access to a master code if needed, though.
Put the S/N stickers from your old lock on your new lock when you install it. Then blame those guys from the government with "breaking" your lock when they can't get it to open. Not your fault they failed....
Change my combo a while back mechanical style and not a liberty safe. Locksmith charge me $150 .
Worth it. Had it changed to a combo that I can actually remember 😂😂.
How does this work if you have a Redhead / Bass pro dial combination safe, will they give your combo with the thugs giving a serial number? and you can also lock your dial ! Jack boots are back, they work for a different master.....
Shame on Liberty Safes. Liberty was under no legal obligation to HELP anyone gain access to a safe. You don’t have to do their (feds) leg work.
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Tossing a Liberty Safe is going to hit much harder than a Yeti Cooler, I think future sales will be impacted, crushed I hope, but those existing ones? nah excuses will be made.
I had no idea it was so easy to completely screw someone’s safe. All I have to do is “bump” the lock off and rip the wires right out and they are completely screwed and the safe is useless. Wow! Who on earth designed this lock system???
Sorry, but I think I’m going to have nothing but mechanical locks on my safes.
Hope Liberty goes by the way of Budweiser.. this is absurd but not surprising. Glad I never bought one back when they were being pushed heavily.
S&G dial-combo lock replacement for the win. No digital combo keypad from any manufacturer.
Thanks for all the great information on changing locks. I have a Liberty safe and I will be changing the lock ASAP. I have one question. If I replace the lock that came with the safe with the same thing or one of the three you recommended, do I need to change out the back or can I just replace the key pad?
Serial number stickers... What's chances the code could be accessed by using some proprietary dongle connected to the white cable?
A reasoned video. I hate propaganda on both sides. One small detail - if it is a mechanical safe, it is not a "back door," but simply the combination which they keep on file at the factory to help owners access the safe. If their is a digital back-door, they should be sued out of existence...
Beyond the the malfeasance of Liberty in their assistance to the Fed thugs, the other problem with these is the cheap membrane numerical switch pads used on these locks. All will eventually fail due to the plastic membrane degradation and aging over time. A mechanical lock will outlive any owner, but only about 10 to maybe 20 years is all for any electronic one.
My experience with setting mechanical locks on shipboard safes was somewhat different to that as stated in the video. I found the procedure was quite simple to do once you had the "key" that was readily available.
I am in MN and am an amateur lock sport enthusiast.. id be glad to help secure your safe free of charge.
All electronic locks have backdoors
I have successfully switched out three electronic locks with sergeant and Greenleaf mechanical locks this week
It would be simple if friends have similar locks, they could swap locks and make note of the serial number. Liberty could steal provide a backdoor code.
Is the data signal that goes thru the cable between the keypad device and the bolt device, when the keypad sends the unlock signal, is that an encrypted data protocol/packet or something that is transmitted the same exact data signal with every unlock? (For example, a 20 year old BMW with an ignition key will pass a new unique packet with each start to the ignition module and that packet agreement would get updated with every start.) Seems Liberty could redeem themselves by having a new option to allow owners to opt out of any data retention on an owners locking device. i.e. an owner would have no warranty and the associated serial number on file would be deleted, therefore if someone called in and demanded the combo on that serial number the manufacturer would not have it. I own a Liberty electronic safe from new and I had no idea there was a backdoor combo available. I can understand a manual dial combo being on file since the new safe might lose the enclosed paperwork.
As brought up by other commenter, the firmware of the keypad might contain the serial number and/or you might be able to punch in another secret code to beep out the serial number digits.
I find this whole mess disturbing. I realize that everyone's situation is different but unless you are a collector, I don't understand the purpose behind a gun safe for most people. Call me crazy but I want my guns where I can lay hands on at least one at a moment's notice. To that end our guns are scattered & hidden in various locations around our property. No casual observer is going to spot a gun in our home to use or steal. Sure someone, like LE, who has the time & the intent to really search is going to find them over time, but no run of the mill burglar will. Now that everyone has seen the vulnerability of gun safes, I hope more people will start thinking outside the box about where to keep their guns. Hiding a gun is not as hard as you might think if you use your imagination. One is none. Two is one.
Tell me if wrong but if you never registered the safe couldnt you simply remove the serial number stickers from the safe itself and the lock set? Then nothing would be traceable on any parts. Only if you never registered of course.
I highly recommend a Teflon knife to remove the sticker that has the serial number on it and then putting that serial number on the lock you put on your safe. This way the serial numbers appear to match even though Liberty will not be able to unlock your safe... also highly recommend a mechanical lock over electronic locks... there are no backdoors on a good 3 dial.
How did the FBI even know the guy had a Liberty safe? Does Liberty share their customer list?
Perhaps Liberty Safe has never heard of AB and the Bud Light boycott???$$$!
Unfortunately I own a Liberty safe so I appreciate this video very much And I really got a kick out of the back of the door when you opened it
So, I have a Cannon safe and when it was purchased new I removed the inner panel and found a code on that lock. That code was the default unlock code. So, right now I use the default code to unlock my safe and my wife uses the programmed code we placed into it. I do not know if that is the secret default code that the manufacturer keeps but it does work. FYI
Guess its back to burying guns on granddads property in a metal container with other pieces of scrap metal buried around the property too. Lol, the old ways never go out of style.
It would be a lot of effort to serial all the circuit boards. Instead the serial would be in the firmware on the micro controller. Bypassing anything that uses a micro controller is quite easy for those of us that work with these things. Companies like Sony and Microsoft were never able to protect their consols, so a gun safe manufacture isnt going to be able to either. The good news is, there is little reward and a lot of risk, so the effort isnt going to happen on any large scale. For those of us that know electronics, its not the safe thats going to stop us, its your willingness to use them agaisnt me that stops me. Over what?. A mecanical device (gun) that is simple to make?. So much safer to make a gun, then to try and steal one.
If you already have a Liberty safe, buy a mechanical Sentry safe, and drop your Liberty in a lake.
5:00 That's the code Obama likes (the 'backdoor a** code' you mentioned). 😅
Dat nose cam. lmao
Thanks man!
So, in simple terms an old-fashioned combination lock is best. Thanks for the video good stuff
Liberty Safe is owned by an investment company called Monomoy Capital Partners LP. A company that is notorious giving donations to many Democrat politicians that are very anti-gun.
And that back door ass code has something to do with the routing code on your bank account! You open up the checkbook and the back door opens automatically!
Good video! One thing that I have done is put a large sticker on my safe Boobie Trapped ! In both enlish and spanish.