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2017/18 Ashes Series Review: Where did it all go wrong for Joe Root and England?
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- Опубликовано: 5 янв 2018
- Michael Vaughan, Graeme Swann, Geoffrey Boycott and Mike Hussey join Matt Smith to review the 2017/18 Ashes series and where it all went wrong for Joe Root and England.
4 years later and Geoffrey has it spot on
The batting was actually worse, compared to the last time England toured Australia. But yeah the problems just seem to persist with this England side away from home
Love him or hate, Boycott is a straight upfront honest person
Yes that he is. He also beats up women so that's a negative...
I've always admired his unbiased, accurate and objective analysis.. a rarity these days
Michael Vaughan is a great commentator, reads the game very well and wonderful analysis
M Salim Shahid thats why he was the captain. Haha
As an Australian he throws abit our way but he has our respect, he does call it as he sees it, aswell for boycott. Quality gentlemen.
Feels like a post mortem for the current series. Some of the same names doing the same things - good as well as bad. The worrying thing is that in 2021 they haven't learnt the lessons of 2017.
Michael Vaughan is like the next generation of Geoffery Boycott.
who's watching after the 1st test at edgbaston 😂
lmao. boycott: " they do the same thing in england, they don't get good preparation!" not to be cocky or anything, but I'd say smithy looked pretty prepared.
It will be Same old story this ashes our Batman’s just don’t look up to test Quality growing their hands and everything
That’s throwing their hands at everything
Gareth Burke it’s because your team has too many one days players I reckon.
I’m watching this before the first test of the 2021-22 ashes
Great video. Who else wanted this to be a closer Ashes series? I would love to see another 2005 type series!
@Saif Ullah Khan
In Ashes 2019 Headingly Test, Ben Stokes LBW Decision when England needed 2 Runs to win had Australia had their Review or if Umpire had given right decision. Australia would have won Ashes 2019 Series 3-1. Australia better Test Team than England. Last time England won Test Match in Australia was Sydney 2011. But Australia won 2 Tests in England 2015 and 2019.
@@dhaanushl6465 cricket isn't a game of ifs and buts mate they wasted their review and england had a fair chance to win in sydney if im not wrong cook scored a 250 Australia is superior but England aren't too behind
@@nevendmello
Last 20 Years, India have played Test Cricket better than England in Australia.
@@nevendmello just now currently England is better than Australia but during the ashes time Australia was quiet ahead especially in batting
@@dhaanushl6465 they lost the series in 15 and they didnt win the series in 19 either
I must say, Vaughan is a pretty intelligent guy.
ravishingravi hello sir, have a look at this video and my reason for what went wrong with England...
U will enjoy it... ruclips.net/video/W0FjV1xV9-k/видео.html
ravishingravi Yes but being a Yorkshireman his hands still swing below his knees, though you'd hardly know it with Big Mouth Boycott near him. Is this Boycott's last Ashes ? Let's hope so, ee bye gum lad, not like wen me an W G Grace were at t' crease.
I hated Vaughan when he played the Aussies, and its because he was good he has the smarts to win games and off his own bat like Smiddy!!
ravishingravi should be director of the team! Sod Baylis get Vaughan in now
Would love it if Vaughan was appointed England coach when Bayliss leaves in 2019
Send them to Sir Geoffrey!
18:35 Is just hilarious, Boycott at his best!
absolute legend
Watching this again in The Ashes 2021-22 - same old same old England.
Nothing's changed, if anything they've actually gone backwards 😂
Boycott's first comment was absolutely on the money - England didn't plan and prepare well enough for this series.
I'm not saying that England WOULD have won with better planning/preparation but they probably would have made it more of a contest.
exactly. same with us Aussies in Eng. They need to play a few proper competitive four day games against state teams here. And Aussies need to be playing a fair few four day games against county opposition.
Mike Spearwood òaa
What are u two saying man eng came to aus amonth ago had 3 warm up matches before the 1st test and a 2 day match after the 1st test what more do u want . ind got 0 practise matches just 7 days before sa series and yet made a hard fight u two are sissies
Good old Geoffrey. I love cricket!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blimey this could be a review of the 21/22 series?
They can literally play the same video for 2021-22 Ashes analysis.
yep. Silverwood shoud be fired
4 years on and exactly the same thing applies. We’re just nowhere near good enough to beat Australia in their own conditions. More worryingly, I don’t fancy this England team to beat the Aussies at home in 2023 either. It could be a while before we regain the Ashes I think. Feels like the 90s all over again.
After day 3 in the third test at Melbourne in 2021 the situation for England looks even more dire.
@@bruiser6479 We are worse than last time. Difference being, we've silenced those who criticise.
England haven’t won a test here in more than a decade, and I don’t think they will for a few more years, as this era of the Australian team is still going strong, and will for a while longer.
Part of me thinks the wickets are doctored, there is no other explanation. No wins in 15 tests and Australia always win regardless and even the two they drew they could have easily won. It doesn't feel right to be honest, sorry.
@@jacobburtonswfc cause your English side can’t win here it’s simple
" I'm not convinced australia would be as competitive in england " - graeme swann. 2 years later: 251 run victory
He's hiding somewhere in carribean 😂
Er. GOT 😂😂
Mark Richardson hopefully
Maanas Ravishankar well no we had our moments. First innings the Aussies were 122-8, and we had a lead of 90 after Burns’ ton. We just fell apart in the second innings.
@AdrianYoungs81 Not quite..
Boycott is a legend harsh but utter truth
I absolutely agree with Boycs about the test preparation. The FC matches etc. The teams and the fans deserve proper test cricket and the preparation is a huge huge part of that.
Looking forward to this year’s version
4-0 again this time as well !
The were spot on then and this still applies!
I don't understand this praise for Cook, he was dropped on 60-something and dropped again on 120-something, that's 2 easy catches gone down. He then goes on to score 240-something and people say he is back in form and playing well. I know that batsman need luck along the way to a big score, but being dropped twice is not the sign of a batsman playing exceptionally well. He was back to his dismal self for the 5th Test. I think England should look for a replacement. Can't rely on him anymore, they need to look for the future. Maybe I'm just a biased Aussie that can't see his value to the team.
The hate for Swann is a bit unfair, he may have seemed like a bit of a prat on the field, but in the commentary box he tells some great stories and does funny impressions of cricketers from around the world. He's good value. I enjoyed his input on the radio.
Cook is the fifth highest Test run-scorer of all time.
He was so funny on triple m
James Anderson out of Ashes 2019 and England have lost their best bowler in the 1st Test. How correct Graeme Swann's prediction turned out to be.
Boycott and Vaughan, I just love their no nonsense brilliant knowledge of the game of cricket especially Test Cricket
ITS SAD - that this video could well be the 2021/22 Ashes review down under.
Boycott knows the game inside out, a wise old head always worth listening to.
Love boycott he is pretty straight forward. 90s best commentator.
Watching this after Aus win the 2021 Ashes. Exactly the same points could be made now. The ECB has singularly failed to learn anything.
Boycott is right. Too many teams are winning easily at home, but struggle away because there is no pre series proper preparation to adjust to the conditions. ICC needs to look at this this seriously.
They use to have tour matches before and in between games
Absolutely - more tour games needed.
I love Geoffrey get him back on
Not often I agree with Boycs but he was spot on. interesting to hear each point of view. Smartest thing I've heard Swann say. Vaughan next coach...built for it. Handled KPs ego well and he played well for him.
As long as Swann gets sacked from commentating I don't mind who wins
wendalboy lol why he isnt that bad
M Salim Shahid his terrible
He is funny
funny looking alright
wendalboy and boycott god i hate him
Boycott talks his mind and he's right.
Our next overseas test tour after this video was to Sri Lanka where we won using another spinner in leach. Plus we’ve found our 90mph odd test bowler in archer. But I think being the best one day side in the world is hampering our test team. All the batsmen who are in our one day side that are also picked for test cricket seem to think they have to attack all the time. I think we need to look at our batting line up and maybe discard some of the one day players for guys who are suited for test cricket.
Who’s watching this four years later with the same mistakes being made?
To be brutally honest, talking about Ben Stokes having shot himself in the foot is a wrong call. That was a bar brawl. Nobody could have had known the ramifications of that act. It all depends on who instigated the fight. And Australia played as unit. Steve Smith, Usman Khawaja, David Warner, Shaun and Mitch Marsh, Tim Paine the keeper, Mitch-Pat-Josh-Nathan firing all cylinders. To even suggest that England's hopes were dependent on on guy and not players like Joe Root, Alistair Cook, Johnny Bairstow, Moeen Ali is just trying to play the blame game and making Ben Stokes the fall guy.
Australia prepare fair wickets. England cannot blame the wickets which were very good for batting.
On the other hand England cheat when preparing wickets. On the last tour there were newspaper front pages in England asking what sort of wicket to prepare to beat Australia.
In my mind that is not good sportsmanship to get an unfair advantage, but don't worry India cheat as well.
There should be an international body that inspects pitches that are made to be fair. That is fast on day one good for batting on two and three then good for spinners just like the SCG was for the fifth test.
sandpaper anyone?
A newspaper front page is not evidence of cheating (even if preparing a wicket which favours the home team is cheating). Journalists will write anything.
Sandpaper to swing the ball on flat pitches lol. No doubt they were using that in that ashes series
@@shamus3477 Using mints to swing the ball for the entire 2005 ashes? Thats what actually happened
always nice to look back, so the following series in England the one Swann did not think this aussie team had a hope was a 2/2 draw, of course the following series was once again a dominant aussies at home, 2023 will be interesting, the team the aussies will have bar injury will be the best team we have had for a long time, Green will be better than his debut series, Boland will likely tour and on the english pitches will be a nightmare to play, the usual quicks are still going great, smith, laba, ussie, head are locks and will cause problems, the only issues I see for the aussie team is warner, yes he just scored a double against SA but that is here, I would not be surprised if warner struggles and retires after the series. Australia need to find an opener, Renshaw?
Geoffrey boycott is really good old school cricketer. I like him
Just let Boycott talk guys! He is the best 😂
you'd think moeen ali being a right-hand offie, that he would know how to play offspin
Boycott is the DT of cricket.
England have always been found wanting on away tours.They got thrashed in India last winter 0-4 and now have succumbed here in AUS also.
‘It’s not gonna work in Aussie’ *im dead*
Here the day of the 1st Ashes test, gonna get battered again aren't we😬
Great to see boycs. Love to hear from him anytime
I'm very love to hear Geoffrey's conversation
Australia were bowled out for 120 when they had a lead and don't need anymore runs. They were also given the opportunity, swing at night is 10 times harder than any green top in England
Edgebaston says otherwise.
Duncan Mackenzie they got bowled out for 60
Sandpaper ?
@@sirlordhenrymortimer6620 Murray mints
Number of tests played since that ashes series: Moeen Ali - 11, Mason Crane - 0.
i know, it’s a bit sad
Michael Vaughn was right about the pitches never seen pitches like that in australia Brisbane used to have good Bounce so Did Perth Adelaide has always been a bit flat. it so sad to see the pitches like that they used to have different traits now they nearly all the same. should of just played the 5 test at 1 stadium if its gonna be like that
Future Flashback: ECB was listening and they drafted Jofra in!
Yeah they brought in the most overrated bowler in the 10 years. He will get smoked in Australia
gotta hope Root doesnt bowl him into the ground, like he did in NZ last time
They have a decent workload rotation policy under Silverwood. And Anderson's reaping the rewards with a prolonged test career because of it
I have always been a fan of Vaughan and Boycott... They call it like they see it...
Who's watching after Australia have already retained the Ashes in 2019? 😢 It's the same issues now as it was with this series a year ago, something has to change, I just don't know what!
Wish the tests are there forever. it shouldn't matter if the crowds are not in the stadium and people watch it on TVs at home. Good Test cricket backed by fantastic commentary team with good food and drink and no work to do makes a perfect day.
Australians don't watch cricket on TV very low viewership
Mason J ok. Looks like they go for live action.
Ashes in Eng: same team with Agar, Bird and Siddle as 12 man and emergencies with the prep on 8cm day-night pitches to get the batsmen used to the England conditions
England have to play bowlers like Anderson,Broad,woakes,Sam Curran at home. Away from home,in Australia and the Subcontinent pacers like Archer,Wood,Stone,Jamie Overton etc should be picked. Surely can't win with Anderson and Broad away from home, on dead wickets
Definitely. Do it like we did in Sri Lanka in the winter of 2018. Total cricket. Pick the right players for the conditions. Leach played brilliantly and is our best spinner and someone like Keaton Jennings who plays great on the subcontinent.
Back after another 4-0. Broken record stuff
Loved the fact that Aussies had a break, played a warm up match after 3 tests in Ashes 2019. Wish this continues!
They still would of not won with Ben stokes
Just find a excuse but really it is just down to smith and the aus fast bowlers and better spins
I agree to an extent.To explain the loss of the series down to the absence of one player is plucking at straws. There is absolutely no guarantee that Stokes would have performed. To say that Stokes is the only one with spirit, drive and commitment is a damning indictment on the rest of the English team and also unfair, I think. For me, the selection and preparation were off the mark, a Boycott said at the start. Australia will always be tough in Australia and to go in with inadequate players and proper warm-up matches is incompetence on the part of the management team. The England batting was poor to say the least and many of them gave away their wickets to fast but not unplayable deliveries and un-extraordinary spin bowling.
Headingley 2019...
@@aaravworah2971 brisbane 2020
@@aaravworah2971 Ashes 2021-22😂😂😂
I wonder what happened to Malan? Great First Test win in the Ashes 2019 by the Aussies!
MrScipio72 lost form. Got dropped
Mason Crane hasn't played. Interesting to see if the same happens next time Down Under.
Australia were the better team. Simple.
Yes the selectors made an absolute hash of the England 11. Bairstow batting at 7 for the first 3 test was ridiculous considering he’s the 3rd best batsman in the team. Not picking Crane until the 5th test was a farce and picking 4 seamers who bowl 80mph and rely on swing to get wickets was stupid. All the selectors and Strauss should be gone.
However, Australia much better team and would have always won in my opinion.
Aj13 Fast but inaccurate doesn’t work. 4x80mph is better than a wayward Mark Wood, Steve Finn, etc. If we had Ben Stokes in the Ashes we’d have that fast, 88-90mph, bowler.
Anderson stood up in the Ashes, with his 17 wickets. No one else did, Woakes in particular was horrible that series.
Biggest whinge I've ever sat through
England lost this Ashes series and many other Test matches when Strauss was made Director of Cricket. He and the Selectors should resign immediately. Failing that they should be sacked.Half this England party should have been nowhere near Australia.
I agree Kevin Peterson should be still in the team the ps. St
2 years later, they are being touted as the favourites to lift the odi world cup..!
sln78 and we did!!
@@mrkipling2201 Congrats to English team and fans !
Following players I don't get why England did not pic; Liam Plunkett or Stuart Meaker to replace injured Finn, Adil Rashid and either Reece Topley or Harry Gurney. How can England not have produced any decent left hand fast bowlers of test standard since Ryan Sidebottom and Alan Mallaly? Big loss was the pace of a fully fit Mark Wood. Why do they not have patients with Rashid? I would also have picked Ravi Bopara as competition for Moeen for the batting allrounder position. I actually liked the Vince selection but felt it was bad prep that he had not played much cricket at international level leading up to the Ashes. Would have taken Bell.
approx 1.25. "Yorkshire (WE)" beat Australia under Fred Truman. This is a very good point on match practice.
Ashes 1st Test 2021-22... Sibley, Burns, Denly, Root, Stokes, Pope, Buttler, Bess, Archer, Wood, Anderson... extra bowlers Broad, Woakes, Curran... Denly could come out for an extra bowler on flatter decks to protect Stokes' body.
Anderson and broad will be gone before that ashes and if they arnt they will get hammered even more they are past it. Archer is also very overrated and will get smashed down under
@@bus5683 really .Siraj ,shardul hammered aussies in brisbane 2-1 ..
What happened to aussie
gotta love geoffrey, he's never wrong really
Watching this before the third test of the 2021-22 series in Australia because it’s all still relevant…. And Boycott and Vaughan aren’t even there this time! 2-0 down already and no innings bigger than 240… talk about deja vu.🙄
In 2021 Jimmy Anderson is alive and well
Has there ever been a worse prepared England team to go to Australia? Three of the top five batsman hadn't scored a test century, a middle order full of lefties against Lyon, no fast bowler in the squad, how did they expect to win a test in Australia with that?
what chance for the convicts now in summer 23? might as well send the ladies team...
Why didn't they preserve with Adam Lyth. It took Gooch years to get settled and organised with his technique. Who coached him. A certain Geoff Boycott in 1989.
English bowlers don't have the same venom outside of England. This is the worst English batting line up in a while. Combine those with Stokes incident, and it's easy to see why England capitulated.
Starc is 27, and Hazelwood is 26, and Cummins is 24. If these 3 stay healthy, I don't see England winning Ashes in Australia for quite a while.
Your damn avatar had me thinking I had a stray hair inside my screen!!!
Biggus Dickus hopefully starc will be fit in 4 years time for another ashes in Australia
Jalen hopefully not 😉 (I’m english)
And dont forget Pattinson will come back into contention when fit. And he is probably the angrier of the four
they aint winning it in England as well.
2023, after Ashes 21-22, it looks more prudent that it'll be years before the current England side regains the Ashes. At least the series will be draw in England, meanwhile in Australia, England gets pummeled since 2013-14 series.
Did anyone watch this series and think it was a bit strange? It was like England weren't trying most of the time...
After watching this again I'm very worried for England going down under this winter.
why are they all stood so close
Pre covid 😂
aus have split their domestic comp that's why they were playing basically a reserves side
yep, that stupid t20 rubbish.
Man I love this Interviewer to Vornie So who has stood up for England other than Milann
Vornie "Well Milan has played Amazing.
What happened to Mason Crane
4-0 was a little flattering to Australia. Unlike in 13-14, England were in most of the games, and had a strong chance of winning in Brisbane and Melbourne. They also fought back in Adelaide extremely well, and the Australian hopelessness against swing bowling means England (who are much improved now) will dominate in 2019.
Rhys Benjamin hmm India won a test series in Australia.. They are the no 1 team Now....
Srinitish Srinivasan yeah without our two best batsman and the team in turmoil...
@@bullymaquire8797 really bro .we thrashed aus without our best players.
Looks like we did prepare well for the ashes this time, should’ve won 4-0 but still brought the ashes home
Can we all agree that Moeen Ali is not a frontline spinner, period! The Ashes was lost when Stokes fu...d up! He should be feeling bad! I don't always agree with Boycott but he is right about the lack of preparations for playing in Austarlia.
We were thrashed by the convicts, simple
Boycott is a master cricketing brain. No one comes close. Anybody needing God' truth to improve should go to him like Tendulkar and Ganguly did. All the 3 came around to Geoff's views at the end.
Vaugh for English selector or even coach
love this guy everyone listen so sincerely when he speaks 😅
Anyone after edgebaston test.. 😂 😂
What about Mark Wood does he bowl very fast with pace.
Khurram Saeed yes when fit, about 90 plus on a good day... Look out for the up and coming Archer
@@desolateones wow that was a shout
It was nothing short of a disgrace that Adil Rashid was not in the team I'm shocked Boycott and Vaughan did not say a thing about a fellow Yorkshire legend
Vaughan looks suave af.
Well said Boycs
Imho England are an ordinary side without x factor Stokes if u compare it with this Australian side. Anderson on English pitches, Cook and Root are the only ones with credentials and Bairstow will probably cement his place for yrs to come. Yeah the rest of those new ones showed some bottle here and there but giving ur wicket away, like lots of these guys constantly do, or bowl a bad ball, is usually not a good sing.They mentioned Lyon who is miles ahead of the English (part time) spinners coz i havent seen them bowl a ball to the likes of Smith or Warner like Lyon did to Cook today. Also their quicks are real proper test match fast bowlers who will end their carreers, bar injuries, with probably 300+ wickets at maybe even low in the twenties averages.
World cricket is happy winning at home at the minute - Swann with the critical observation. Like Boycott says come 2021-22 we'll steamroll em 4-0 again cause ultimately no one cares about their away record. There'll be no change whatsoever
Doctored wickets?
Geoffrey was right
Geoffrey boycott analysis was spot on
the new England batting coach: Geoffrey Boycott
I mean what he says is true
Boycott is savage Vaughan is awsm