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Uncovering the Secrets of Moon Presence: - Bloodborne Lore & Story Explained!
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2020
- In this video, we're going to explore the lore and story behind the moon presence in Bloodborne. From its origins to its role in the game, we'll cover everything you need to know about the moon presence!
If you're a fan of Bloodborne, then this video is for you! We'll explore the lore and story behind the moon presence, and reveal all the secrets you need to know about this intriguing element of the game. From its origins to its role in Bloodborne, this video is a must-watch for Bloodborne fans!
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So... At this stage it's getting pretty obvious that Sin IS the Moon Presence, and Richard is Gehrman, trapped in the Hunter's Dream with her until a brave PC comes along.
“Now can you read it in your best pirate voice 🏴☠️ “ fucking killed me and Sophie nailed it too.
Can I just say that through all of these crazy times I have rekindled my love of this channel like tenfold 😁
It’s the strange combination of their banter and the occasional incredibly useful piece of information that makes me love this channel
Yep agreed
My favorite description of the Moon Presence.
"It appears as an emaciated corpse, headless, and violently defiled. Many tendrils like the veins of a large deformed creature flow like sewage through invisible waters. The chest has been torn apart; and organs and vitalities stolen and stripped, only sharpened bones on pink raw flesh remains. The tail most resembles fleshy insects, like centipede roots constantly all in silent pain. Its head, if you even call it that, is little more than an elongated neck with an empty dark hole; what lies within, I do not dare imagine. The gurgling noises are most befitting of gushing blood from a freshly cut stump, although no such fluids are present."
So the hugging is actually forcing you to drink the bloodish stuff in its neck hole?
@@CNNBlackmailSupport Well there is no fluid in its head, and when it embraces you it's pushing its head against your belly.
@@xshullaw "no such fluids are present" is linked to the "gurgling noises of gushing blood from a freshly cut stump."
That doesn't have anything to do with internal workings, as freshly cut stumps are as external as possible. The noise is from the blood exiting the wound, not existing in the body.
The moon presence isn't leaking fluids, so it's safe to assume that the actual fluids being heard are deeper down the hole in its stump neck. The speaker doesn't dare look down the "empty dark hole" or guess "what lies within." Empty, in this case, meaning the area of the hole that is seen. An "empty window" doesn't mean the room behind it is empty, just the actual window frame leading to the room.
Maybe the blood is all phantom stuff and can't be seen in any manner, but that isn't what the speaker says. The hole entry is empty, gurgle noises are coming from it, he doesn't see any fluid leaking or dripping from the hole. That could describe a literal asshole in 85% of a human's life, and yet it isn't empty, is it?
Also, it is headless, so we are talking stomach/throat/lung fluid or whatever it has in those tentacle holes, since it doesn't have those organs(visible to us, at least). If you superimpose a head on its neck, he actually shoves the player into its mouth/head(depending on how wide the jaws would go). The stomach of the player glows (you ate the cords) and rebuffs the moon presence.
I feel it was originally supposed to eat your soul the same way that tribes of cannibals believe they are eating the soul of their victim when they eat the flesh. Maybe that is how it chains you to the dream. It eats your essence and locks it in the dream as a warden. We know it enslaves people to run the dream, but not why. Just guesses about why.
"it's trial and error"
gotta break a few fertilized eggs to make a transcendence omelete i guess
I love your take that messengers are the lost children of Great Ones. It makes OOK's character design much more interesting in that hes basically a giant aged messenger.
The "beasthood creeps from the right leg" myth seems to be exactly that, a legend, as all the mutated Yharnamites clearly display the first sign of the scourge on their left arm, exactly where we also receive the Blood Transfusion as the Sullied Bandages indicate. Even the Cleric Beast displays this feature on its more twisted left arm.
The loss of the right leg seems more to indicate a pact of loyalty, which is why all those statues of knight on horses in the Queen's Chambers are also missing it.
Speaking of Cainhurst, I'm pretty sure that most of Yharnam, cathedrals and chapels included, where either built by them or where left eons past by the Pthumerians who inhabitated the surface: after all if Cainhurst nobles and relatives can give birth to the children of Great Ones, while other Yharnamites like Adella, who's even called a Saint by the Healing Church, can't, is because they still posses enough of that original Pthumerian blood in their line. It's never clearly stated if Pthumerians were born underground (which could be as this is exactly what happened with the first human like beings of Dark Souls, making this a reoccuring motif) or were born on the surface and then either all of them or some left to build the old labyrinth and maybe came back after the defiled of Pthumeru and the fall of the underground Pthumerian civilization.
The first thing I noticed about the Moon Presence artwork at 43:50 was the left hand being clearly more deformed than the right, so I agree with you about the arms and legs stuff for sure.
@@Kevin-qv3ch The connection between Great Ones and Beasts don't stop there: the artwork of the Beast Rune represents a claw with six fingers, which is exactly the type of hand that the Moon Presence, Amygdala and the Brain of Mensis have.
I think the myth of the scourge creeping from the right leg actually makes perfect sense. Yharnamites get their shots on their left arms as people usually do, since old societies would consider the right arm the able one regardless of whether you were right or left handed. However, when you, as the Hunter, administer Blood to yourself, where do you take your shots? Well.... you stab the thing into your right thigh, because its quick and practical in the midst of combat. Most hunters probably do so as well, and most of their blood shots probably come from this source rather than administration by clerics. So it makes A LOT of sense for Hunters and Knights and the like to present signs of beasthood in their right leg, and amputate them as a (most likely ineffective) way of stopping the scourge.
Fun fact, Moon presence its the only one boss in game that cannot be poisoned, slow or rapid. All other bosses of main game, dlc and chalices, can be slow/rapid poisoned even if wiki says they have 999 resistances.
That's interesting. What with all the themes of poison representing forms of corruption, does this mean she's incorruptible or already so corrupt that it has no effect on her, fascinating.
@Kris he could, we have a all bosses run rolling only run with poison weapon equipped (it makes poison work if you roll into opponent), only moon presense have immunity
A "True confrontation" with a gross blobby Moon Presence in the dungeons after fighting an elegant one up above would have been very similar to fighting True King Allan after False King Allan in Demon's Souls!
Im pretty sure that richie once said that HP is actually like you'r will to fight, so maybe "Deadly Gaze" is the moon presence like demoralizing you in some way.
Maybe i dunno
she tells you "elden ring's never coming out"
Nyarlathotep actually does have humanoid traits such as desires, hates, and joys which is what makes him truly terrifying. He is the great one that can almost be understood. In Lovecraft’s short story titled “Nyarlathotep,” he goes across the world demonstrating strange acts of scientific theory and experimentation hitherto unwitnessed by the human race which leaves them in awe and in a sense of religious terror. Also the moon changes color and the population of the unnamed city he visited goes mad. I suggest reading it and Under the Pyramids as well as The Dream Quest of Unknown Kaddath.” For an eldritch horror licked in a gothic church tower surrounded by religious zealots and xenophobes, try The Haunter of the Dark.
I'm sure others have pointed this out, but Nyarlathotep is actually the only "god" in the Cthulhu Mythos who takes an interest in and involves himself in the affairs of humanity. So in that way the Moon Presence does kind of have something in common with Nyarlathotep, as it is directly involved with the workshop hunters.
I get that the game is more about ghosts and vampires and other Victorian horror with a thin layer of Chtulhu painted on top of it and is not really like the Mythos, but I think the influence of Lovecraft is a little more present than you guys give it credit for. The Pthumerians are a really good example of this, as alternate humanoids and genetic degeneration are both major themes in many of Lovecraft's stories which seems to get completely overlooked by a lot of people when examining Bloodborne. Most people really hone in on the weird tentacled creatures, but to me the Pthumerians are the most Lovecraftian thing in the game. Good examples of this theming in Lovecraft are Facts Concerning the Late Arthur Jermyn and The Rats in the Walls.
@frenchfuck What even is Cainhurst?
@@necrumwarrior238 Ah yes the singular Area that has those, and wich is also completely optional
Is Octomom a great one?
I wish The Moon Presence should be sprinkling around snacks like a christmas tree.
Moonsnacks!
Moon Presence as Salt Bae sprinkling mist
Pretty late, but I noticed the moon presence has no eyes while having many eyes is often an eldritch trait.
Ebrietas has numerous for example.
May be late to this but I just noticed the Moon Presence's face is similar to a Messenger's.
Good catch! I went back your so right. I think MP is like the master or creator of the messengers.
The 5-metre radius reminded me of how Baldur's Gate would indicate Area of Effect in metres and never actually show you the AoE precisely when casting, so you'd just have to sort of eyeball it. Good times.
When you guys got to the actual guide richie sounds like he just wants to die.
I...I thought it was pretty clear that the Messengers were physically taking your body to the dream in the opening cutscene...and that we were astral projecting into the waking world, thus preventing us from permanently dying there...
Eeeey dudes and dudetess, awesome podcast, barely half through, but I had to get this out!
Recently, I was studying on druids, on accounts of the few historians from the Roman era, and they mention this druid ceremony where druids would, at a specific phase of the moon (not mentioned which one though) collect these weird "eyed rocks" that would be released from a something called "the snake ball", which is supposedly a ball of snakes held together by a slime and saliva produced by the snakes. I don't know how on topic this is, but damn, it reminded me of Bloodborne a lot :D Cheers!
P.S. don't stop bullying Richie, his manners seems to get better erry time xD ;)
I always thought the MP torso injuries were related to the loss of it's child?
I’m very VERY late to this podcast episode but I just wanted to say that in the art book that cloud of mist above her head looks like a placenta- her tentacles fading into it are the veins and her face is the umbilical cord.
*Finds a new BB lore playlist and it’s got JFS awesome* So how many episodes did I miss oh only 200 GG the rest of my free time for quite awhile.
lol here's the full playlist of everything we've done, there's close to 400 videos now? ruclips.net/p/PLOIA4n5j7KcZaBII_ybUP9MuW_gJcqloG
Figured there would be some else where but another 200 oh my
"are you arguing with our viewers now?" =D
Did squidward grew eyes in the inside? Nyarathotep actually was one of the few Elder Gods that engaged with humans directly, he goes out of his way to do so.
Please talk about moon presence again
Always makes me excited!
Kinda wanna draw ebrooetas
haha we actually have an outline ready for another mp podcast. specifically the pact between the mp and laurence, we just gotta find time to record :)
It makes sense that Hunter's would cut off their legs, it's where they inject blood after all
Amygdala is Greek for almond, so they just added another layer of meaning on top of it
super informative. Thanks for explaining laurence's role and how he beckoned the MP. MAD GENIUSES!!
NP! If you still want to know laurences role in more detail, we did a podcast on that as well :) ruclips.net/video/DO-IxuKoLgQ/видео.html&
also 1:13:43 , the origins of ebrooitus and then your imitation of jsf had me lolz'ing haha ffs
"Richie is trapped with me forever"...frightening, but also so wholesome. :)
I guess it was destiny for you two to click and run a Podcast.
Trapped*
@@tacodude98 Shame on me.
@@Phyrrax You're my hero.
Question. Both Ebrietas and the Moon Presence presents, on the back of their bodies, a section from which sprouts tentacles and 2 wings. Now, since that section in the altered model is colored differently from the rest of the body, which is black, can we assume that the Moon presence is a composed being, and that the "flora" part of it is similar to that of Ebrietas (and therefore they both evolved in a similar manner, but Ebrietas was less "enlightned")? Or it's just a common theme in the design of the great ones to have parts inspired by fungi, plants and other strange live forms?
I ask because, if i'm not mistaken, only Ebrietas and then Moon Presence have wings and tentacles on the back.
Lovecraft was known to combine aspects of fungi, animals, and plants in his "creatures" to show how evolutionarily alien the entities are. To me, it seems like the wings are a symbol of how some people see these things as divine or angelic.
I'm watching many of these episodes for the second time, and loving them as much as ever. Keep up the great work- l'm a huge fan!
Glad you like them! Thanks so much!
This was yet another fantastically fun podcast. I had so many things I wanted to say but instead I just keep coming back to the fact Sin managed to get Rock Lobster in this & Richie didn't even react 😅
Award yourself 10,000 SC points Madame 👏👏
XD
The Strategy Guide reading was an absolute treat
Quick Theory that just popped to my head
Kos was the first great one ever get pregnant, and Flora(aka the moon presence) got jealous, so Flora and Kos had a fight deep under the sea, Flora got heavily damaged and Kos died, they both ended in the shore of the fishing Hamlet
Flora left before the humans living in the hamlet found out about this whole ordeal to lick her wounds before coming back and claiming kos' baby
The humans of the Hamlet start worshiping Kos and eating her rotting corpse, slowly mutating into those fish people we meet in the dlc
On the other side, of the world while Flora is still healing she is called, not by Laurence thought, I think she got called by Master Willem.
Flora had a passive contact with humans on this area of the map for centuries, presumably people prayed to her and asked for knowledge, power, etc and Flora would indirectly whisper the hunter rune into their ear and with that whisper they would find enlightenment, but this time it was different, this time Flora was mad and suffering a lot of pain thanks to her fight with Kos and she whispered a vengeful variant of the hunter rune into Willem's ear, Willem then got the idea to kill everyone in the hamlet and so they did
Later she got called in a more direct personal matter by Laurence, and the rest is history
Interesting thought: If a beast couldn't host the Dream, then it would make sense for Moon Presence to amputate the leg and prevent beasthood.
Nyarla is a massenger of the higher gods being one of the 4 great outer gods, presence could be a massenger of the great old gods that still did not appear on bloodborne or the church couldnt find a way to contact yet
Also one of the realms nyarla is stronger is in the dreamlands on lovecraft’s dream quest of unknown kaddath same way as presence appears in dreams and was supposed to appear on the nightmare
The cut last form of the moon presence looks a lot like the Odeon writhe rune. Hmmmmmm
I havent finished but why do you say the Moon Presence wants a child when the dream and almost everything surrounding it is made for the single purpose of keeping hunters alive to fulfill either the goal of eliminating the beast scourge, freeing mergo or killing whats left of mergo.
Ok the more i go in, the more stuff that clash with my knowledge of the lore. This is quite fun, lol.
Codeword has to be either something about *_The Hunter's Mark_* or *_The Clock Tower_*
Only few times I remember you getting really annoyed while recording .. xD
Hopefully I'm not wrong or else I've brought much shame to my family ...
haha its the hunter's mark at the alter, still the champion!
@@SinclairLore Why didnt you want Sophie to mention it?
AHAH, « I’m fine I entered another realm of reality so... »
It feels likely that Gehrman was chosen to stay because he was already missing a leg. When the MP takes one of yours, it’s because it got used to looking after one legged people.
maybe the moon presence thinks people develop more legs as they age, and thus assumed gehrman was the closest to “childhood”. with gehrman dead, it decides to make-pretend with the hunter :-p
@Sinclair Lore I know this is late, but Yes, Bloodborne's game engine is not able to easily swap textures on the fly. The game engine was, as a way to keep the game from slowing down a lot, was made to use static textures to simplify environmental rendering and asset rendering. This was done to lighten the workload of the CPU and GPU to maintain the frame rate. Blood on the character is not a texture asset, but a mesh transparency, again as a way to simplify rendering to stress the GPU less so frame rates can be maintained at the desired resolution.
You guys are so cool for making these videos
no u
I actually never thought about it surprisingly. But the moon presence is very f ING simular to nyarlethotep/the crawling chaos.
Nyarlethotep is a shape-shifting messenger. Lots of great content (lovecraft etc )
Was this guide made by Bossfightdatabase? I don't even remember how long a meter is.
The original Moon Presence episode was the first of Your podcasts I listened to. I remember Sin being very quiet, and sounding pretty disinterested in this particular one, and Richie had to do his "Do You want to talk about how..." move over and over again. I thought to myself "Geez, this Richie guy is totally keeping this poor girl hostage, talking about this game, she seems to be only mildly interested in. Probably he has no-one else to talk with about this, and she's just nice like that to lend her ear to him."
Oh, how wrong I was. How very, very wrong...
Lmao! Yeah , I'm just shy
I love the theme song for Ebrooitas.
One of the most confusing elements of Bloodborne at this point to me... if the Great Ones are doomed to inevitably lose their children because they're the pinnacle of evolution and offspring can only go backwards, so something always goes wrong... why are they still trying? Why do they still impregnate women? Why are they going to all this trouble of communing with lower beings to create children they KNOW are going to be stillborn?
I just doscovered your podcast a few days ago, they are really great. I have an off topic question thats been bugging me: do anyone of you guys smoke/vape during the podcast? I keep hearing like someone blows near the mic. Again, great work.
no, we dont smoke or vape. maybe its my sippy cup?
Glad you enjoy the podcast!
Need more of that esoteric Batman lore
Can we get a bloodborne kart lore explained plz
If the Japanese name of Amygdala is almond then the arguments that the English choice is based in the brain is unlikely. This is because the word amygdala literally means almond.
The amygdala in the brain is shaped like an almond.
Will the M.D. Geist 2 podcast be able to be contained in a single episode? At this point it sounds like we're gearing up for a full-on seminar.
lol!
I have a question: did Seeth the scaleless elevate itself into the moon presence or is the moon presence simply a completely separate being?
I think they're separate beings. They're sorta from separate worlds, or timelines, or whatever you want to call it. They're separate games, basically imo.
@@SinclairLore in dark souls 2 we can find seeth the scaleless soul even tho it was consumed in the first and the arch trees are in dark souls as well as bloodborne. Also the moonlight great sword is in all soulsborne series so i wouldnt discount them as completely separate worlds or beings.
@@geninji6117 Yeah I think they reuse the same themes (e.g., Kegare) and assets, and sort of easter eggs :) but I don't necessarily thing Bloodborne and Dark Souls are supposed to be the same world. But maybe Bloodborne is Dark Souls/Demons Souls in the future, so who knows!
I've just realized something ... dire. The cairnhust knights have 1 leg in the statues. Does this means that they were, at one point, each of those, a moon scented hunter? I mean ... why did Laurence call the Moon Presence, between the choices of the already known Kos, or Odeon or Amygdala? Is there a deeper connection between queen annalise baby and the MB?
"The cairnhust knights have 1 leg in the statues." I think that's an interesting interpretation, but Richie and I are thinking that it has something to do with an earlier iteration of the game, where beast hood crawled up the right led or whatever, and they had to get rid of it to get rid of beasthood. Kind of like in sekiro they get rid of an arm to stop themselves from becoming shura.
How does the moon presence poop? 🤔
I have never played the game and have no idea what the moon presence is/looks like. This channel is my only knowledge or interaction with bloodborne
I missed the beginning of this podcast. So, are you and Richie like Laurence and Gehrman-trapped together for eternity?
Laurence and German aren't trapped together
Richie, trapped forever by Sin?
Is she his Moon Presence?
I'm so confused, another video I watched said the Moon Presence's goal was to kill other Great Ones.
But y'all are saying it just wanted a child?
Yup. I think it depends on how you interpret the story.
It's actions seem to indicate both.
Is it possible the moon presence wants the hunter to have one leg in order to be a physical manifestation of the hunters rune. Which is a hanged man symbol which could be interpreted as having one leg hanging upside-down
@Kris It's confirmed to be an upside down hunter. When you enter into the village after the fight with Maria in the Clocktower in the Old hunters dlc, the very first lamp checkpoint has a hanging corpse with a missing head hanging somewhere just above. The position of the hanging corpse is literally the runic symbol for hunter.
images.app.goo.gl/hnZokpJyXprH74K39
So did great ones always exist then? If they cant have kids then how are new ones made? I get that we ascend, but obviously that's an isolated incident right?
It might be the only way it happens
I see it as great ones being species, with allusions being made to their ascensions in what shapes they have and their effects on you. Something that attacks with blood ascended via the blood, poison via a curse(weaker links than the other two but it's to do with Loran), and frenzy via insight. This is the reason that they can create new members of their species via corruption and influence, but they can't truly have children.
From where does the Great Ones come if they can't reproduce?
From ascension
@@SinclairLore oooooh interesting
Messengers are to the Hunters as Amygdala are to the great old ones. They both open cosmic portals and have the ability to transport the living between the waking world, dreams and nightmares.
Or another way of looking at it, Messengers transport Hunters from the waking world to the dream. Amygdala, serve a simular function but are instead connected to nightmares.
Amygdala is Greek for 'almond.' The part of the brain was named that because it looks like an almond. The name still works just as well in English.
In Japanese it's just called "Almond" as far as I know
The manipulative girl tries to be adorable but the guy isn't buying it...........lol
XD
The guy quit btw, check out the new host ruclips.net/video/E8YioXHzjjY/видео.html
Anyone else think the moon presence was human at one point?
49:43
I like to think that you lose a leg in the second ending because the Moon Presence is secretly Tick-Tock, the crocodile from Peter Pan.
Can I buy a coffee cup?
what kinda coffee cup
@@SinclairLore Hi Sin. An Ebrootius coffee mug.
@@jgjg8543 yeah we have the links in the description :) you can find our merch here sinclairlore.redbubble.com
Как всегда звучит хайпово
Clicked off by the 6th minute. First 6 minutes was a complete waste of time and gave no information about the moon prescence. With a title like this, the video should just be filled with moon prescence facts instead of cheeky banter.
Hi Dom, ty for your comment! We actually made quite a few videos that touch on the moon presence :). I'll post some of them here for your convenience:
1) Everything about the moon presence (original) ruclips.net/video/9KdMTpufegg/видео.html
2) Notes of bloodborne : Paleblood ruclips.net/video/OmIPFEefsB4/видео.html
3) Oedon with Redgrave and Aegon: ruclips.net/video/Q6klgecViSU/видео.html
4) Laurence :ruclips.net/video/DO-IxuKoLgQ/видео.html
5) Willem Narration: ruclips.net/video/Qa_tfhbYiSo/видео.html
There are more videos which you can find by using the channel search bar.
Hope this helps in your Bloodborne Lore journey!
Best,
Sin
I'm new here, so feel free to call me an asshole: but damn is that girl hard to listen to.