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... so one of the Disappointments of a SMALL place is maybe I don't have room for a 30 Inch T.V., but wish I could find a T.V. that has the greater definition. :( it sucks, just saying.
Sharing my experience here. I am not a TV technology buff... went to store to buy the tv yesterday. Compared C3 and s95c with the same videos on youtube 4k settings, both connected to the same wifi. Actually I went to the store with c3 oled in my mind. But when i compared them side to side i found s95c had better details and colour, depths levels. Ordered s95c then and there. Sony tvs were 20% pricier than these both tvs.
I own the S95C 77", S95B 65", Sony A95K 65", A80J 55", and the LGC1 48" (for gaming), I love all my sets, and all have their positives and negatives, thats why I have so many, and after calibration, tweaking settings in service menus, downloading Color App for LG, the S95C is by far (except for the S95B, and A95K which aren't too far behind), the best out the bunch, DV is a joke if you know how to calibrate, you can actually attain a way better picture. I had the G3 for a week, I just had to see the PQ after calibration, and the S95C still had a better overall picture, returned it to BB. I now await the Sony A95L to see how that fairs...
This is a great tv without question and I almost waited for it as I really like Samsung and already own the QN90B from last year. No Dolby Vision is really a non issue but in the end I got such a great deal on a 77” LG G2(with gaming playing the biggest deciding factor) I jumped on it and have absolutely no regrets. Although as far as the S95C goes if the dimming is as aggressive as you say I’d definitely be going into the service menu and turning it all off(not recommended for the average user) and enjoying the tv from there.
Great review. S95C was unSamsung good! But, I still hate its operating system. Samsung’s software division sucks a BIG TIME. Samsung has a great hardware, and it always had great hardware. But, the software always and still sucks.
8k at the distance you would sit is pretty much useless over 4k. I doubt many would be able to tell the difference between the two unless they got real close.
@@42degrees86 Sure, but mini-led is very close in overall black levels and the blooming issue is something I don't see in 99.5% of real world content (not some white box moving across a black screen). I game more than I watch movies and shows, and I have no need to take any burn-in precautions. Overall I think it depends on your use case.
The dimming is a no-go. Disabling ABL is also no option for warranty purposes. Will stick with LED for the next years until OLED matures and can keep its brightness without dimming down.
Its supposed to dim, that is how they keep the display safe. It dims on static picture that is not moving after a certain time. Not just in general, people need to stop assuming and find out them selves. All Oleds are supposed to do this to lessen burn in. Even LG and Sony's.
It sucks that Samsung doesn’t have Dolby vision but at the same times Samsungs HDR is just as comparable to Dolby Vision when you out the G3 and S95C side by side you can’t even tell the difference. Tizen is frustrating so I suggest Apple TV but I don’t like webOS either so. While G3 being mountable only should be an issue because you pay $100 extra for stand no one complains about that one.
Well, I have wondered since your review of the S95B if you guy got a bad unit or if the time period you had with it was while they had a bad version of the firmware out for it because I have had the S95B for the past year and never had the same complaints with it you had and feel everything you said about the S95C applies to the S95B. Also the LG C3 is the esact same TV as the C2 was lasy year and is almost not even worth reviewing. Luminance levels and the PQ-EOTF curve measure exactly the same but the G3 (so long as it's the 55", 65" or 77") has the new MLA (Micro Lens Array) tech and is much brighter than last year's G2 and is defiantly worth getting in for a review. As for the A95L, I haven't seen it yet, I'm pretty sure not too many people outside of Sony have, but I can't wait to get it into the store to see it.
We have the samsung 8k Qled and the upscaling fir movies ect is incredable,however for Football ie Soccer if the signal is not 4k its a disaster as the ball disapeers when it clashes with the crowd in the background. Otherwise love the TV.
Hi Andrew & Kristi, Love the channel so thanks so much for your work. I wonder if hooking an Apple TV to this telly would create a perfect combination of OS performance and picture quality, id be very interested to know whether the TV would automatically adjust its picture settings within the Apple TV menu. Did you happen to experiment with this in your testing? Thanks again, Daniel
Andrew is 100% on how terrible the Samsung Tizen operating system is. There are some great gaming features that many TV manufacturers do not have, but it is so slow and takes too much effort to navigate that it's frustrating. I already had an LG OLED C2 in the house when I picked up a Samsung QN90B. The picture on the Samsung was gorgeous, but the software aggravated me so much that I returned it for a 2nd C2 in the same size.
Kind of a weird thought, but, wether you’re a fan or a hater of Apple, you have to agree, there is no other operating system on the market for TVs that’s as good as AppleTV4K. Period. If you’re using Tyzen, or even LGs OS, you need counseling honestly. That being said, I hate the one connect box. I had two of them replaced within the first year because of internal problems. And I don’t need my TV to be paper thin. Especially when it’s 70+ inches. It’s good that there’s more competition in the OLED market, competition is great for consumers, but Samsung has a lot to work on, and I mean a lot. Great review and conversations! Hope everyone is having a great day.
AppleTVs absolutely rock! I put them above GoogleTV at this point, though GTV has gotten crazy good in recent years. TIZEN or webOS make me want to punch the wall sometimes and don't even get me started on whatever the hell VIZIO continues to push.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I honestly forgot Vizio was still around.. but yes. AppleTV is just spot on. No ads, all the apps you can imagine, easy to use, and if you’re already in the Apples EcoSystem it’s an absolute gem.
Thanks for a well balanced, honest review. Not on top of my new tv list since Im not a Samsung reliability fan(only tv that ever broke on me was a Samsung LED years ago) . Cant wait till the Sony A95L arrives and you review it. Lots of old dvd concerts in my collection so Sony upscaling excellence puts the brand at top of my list.
I Have The S95B, And Not A Fan When It Comes To The CPU/ OPPERATING SYSTEM NOT @ ALL! Probably The Best Picture Quality When It Comes To 📺 I Had In My Home, But I'm Waiting For The View On The New Sony This Year. Again... The Samsung S95B Cpu Ect.Ect Doesn't Fair Well With eArc Avr ( I Have The Denon AVRX6700H!) Like It Did On My LG CX!
Curious again. I know you would pick the 900B over the s95c, BUT what about the 900b in the 65 inch compared to the s95c in a 65 inch. Some reviews say 8k is worth it in the larger sizes but not 65 inch and that the s95c is better in the 65 inch over the 900b 8k. Thoughts?
We cannot comment on longterm burn-in concerns or lack thereof due to us having only a limited number of weeks with the display (which has already been returned to the manufacturer following the conclusion of this review). We rarely get to keep TVs for more than 90 days as samples are hard to come by. The TVs we've chosen to make our own have not had any burn-in issues, but they're also LED-based models.
I just got the 65" S95C because: NextGen TV just was rolled out in our market Samsung has a sale on their high end OLEDs and Q series soundbars My only TV was a 6 year old UN7100 50" and... it's football season. The difference moving from edge lit 4K non-HDR LCD is, quite frankly, stunning. There is some HDR10+ sample content on RUclips which was captivating (the night scene of a Tokyo city street). I use mine set in Film Maker mode. Thanks for the review.
I used to buy nothing but Samsung but my last purchase was the Sony Bravia 950H which I enjoy immensely. With other brands stepping up and Samsung glitching I think they have lost their automatic top standing. What were they thinking? Thank you Andrew and Kristi for another great review.
@@PedroMartins-yv1lv Sales volume doesn’t make them better. Samsung is at best the 4th best TV manufacturer of picture quality and accuracy are your concern. 1. Sony 2. Panasonic 3. LG 4. Samsung
@@PedroMartins-yv1lv also QD-OLED is showing a far higher chance of burn in than W-OLED. It’s significant. I would say the tech isn’t smoothed out yet so I personally wouldn’t touch it for a few years
Wake me up when Samsung supports Dolby Vision. 😉 ( _sorry for being a specs-queen_ ) ( _don't get me wrong, i support their stance in supporting the 'open' codecs ... but the UHD discs [and certainly streams] ain't making HDR10+ an included sub-stream by standard ... but I cannot get on with that if I can't play things at the best quality on an otherwise stunning display_ )
I know its not OLED, but how does it compare to Sony X95K ? (or X95L for that matter) do we now need OLED again, or is the miniLED still the way to go ? Unless a candle comes to rest right below the black bars ;)
I will admit that is one sexy tv. But I had a really bad experience from Samsung tv’s in the past, even tho those were the plasma days of TVs. The lack of Dolby Vision is just irritating at this point and I can’t stand their bloat wear and their settings menu. I don’t know about you but to me Samsung makes it difficult at times when playing with their settings. I don’t like it. But one thing you said that I never thought about. That 8k is the best 4k out. After you broke it down it made a lot of sense. Just wish the price tags of 8k would come down some.
Being forced to watch adverts. Forget that 💩. It sounds like tv's now are just that, with nice viewing but horrendous user interface. Long may my old slow operating system, lg 3D tv, with a good enough picture, live.
Short answer NO. Long answer; between the bent panel, premature burn in, removing or nerfing of features with firmware updates, atrocious software, much shorter warranty, no heatsink on the back to properly handle high nits, no Dolby vision, the answer is still NO. It look nice when you unbox it and play around with it for a few hours. Living with it for the next few YEARS is an entirely different proposition.
Oh, it gets much better than even that with Samsung. If you ever want to have some fun sometime, Google up an article by searching the key words "Samsung" and "TV BLOCK". That one is certainly an eye opener, to say the least!
I recently purchased the s95c. When the TV is on the one connect box makes a high pitched buzzing noise. And when its switched off the noise changes more to a hum. Does anybody out there with this TV have a noisy box?
My 77” S95C will arrive in a few days with their best soundbar system, and I will drive it with my Apple TV 4K box. It’s replacing my old 65” Sony 4K that I bought 10 years ago before HDR. I hope we like this OLED because we won’t upgrade again for another 10 years.
How do you like it? Watch out for burn-in issues. Don't let your TV run on the same channel for extended hours. Have you bought a soundbar or you still need suggestions?
@@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII Thanks. I absolutely LOVE this Samsung OLED 77” S95C. We have it turned on for only 2 or 3 hours a day in the evening. We don’t have TV channels, so no news displays with burn-in ribbons scrolling across the bottom. We don’t watch sports, so no fixed sports score graphics on the screen. We watch streamed movies, documentaries, RUclips, concerts, and stage plays. I am probably overly careful about burn-in. We watch everything in filmmaker mode, which is unbelievably gorgeous and lifelike. The only problem with this TV isn’t the TV but the content available. This TV can magnificently display 4K, HDR, and 60 fps, but most content out there is not up to that standard. As a result, this TV is almost overkill, and an 8K TV definitely would be overkill for a long time to come. We have a long way to go before all content will be in 4K and HDR, much less 8K. But this TV does its best to upscale HD. The best content for this TV I have found are the artistic HDR videos on RUclips by Jacob & Katie Schwartz. Absolutely stunning! That’s what I use to show off this TV to visitors. The Samsung S990C Sound system (I hope I have the model # correct) is outstanding surround sound and has many modes to make the best of whatever audio content we are streaming. I can also stream music by WiFi from my phone to the sound system with the TV off. The screen saver video on Apple TV has some of the highest quality 4K HDR content out there! Sometimes I just watch the screen saver videos of scenery because they are so crisp and spectacular! I highly recommend this TV and sound system, but don’t be disappointed when most video content available does not live up to the amazing display capabilities of this TV.
The TV to avoid. Call any company that handles tv repairs and replacement. 90% oled replacements are Samsung. Plus a/v decoding chipset and software that handles all that is pre alpha stage. They added a lot of brightness without adding the heavy heatsink it needs, combine that with Samsung QC. Same ish diff toilet.
Unboxed the 77" S95C with the help of my wife. She forgot she had just put lotion on her hands (ya I know no white gloves, she says the TV slips when she wears them). Any way, she forgot about the freshly put lotion on her hands and when I saw hazy hand marks on the TV I asked her WTH. She said oops I forgot I had hand lotion on. Been trying to wipe them with a microfiber cloth for 30 minutes, used it damp, heated up the mf cloth, tried circular, back and forth. Not a difference. Those marks seem like the chemicals in the lotion have reacted or attached to the anti glare coating. Emailed Samsung. Not sure what else I can try to use on the screen to get rid of them. Sigh
Damn you're probably out of luck. Panels used on these high end TVs are super sensitive to oils (such as those on human hands), and lotion is basically a highly concentrated version of that. I'd recommend calling a specialty tech shop or Best Buy or something to see if there's anything they can apply to it to eliminate the marks. But yeah that's rough. If my wife did that I'd momentarily consider divorce lol. These things ain't cheap!
@@Grande79 lol there is none. She is the one who bought the TV for me for Father's day gift. We had our first child last year. So can't get mad about a gift :)
@@kylebocanegra5948 opened a case with Samsung. It's weird that even my own hand prints are not coming off and I wash my hands every time in warm water with soap before I touch the TV. Samsung going to send a tech out to see what is going on.
Great review. Will you be getting your hands on Apple’s vision pro when it comes out next year? I respect your deep reviews on everything. When Apple says you can watch tv that’s extremely big I’m cautious about it.
We have discussed whether or not to bring the Apple Vision Pro to the channel. I am very curious but also have concerns that we may discuss if and when we review that product.
Although I like it the best, the movie mode in my Samsung 4K TV is too yellow. My TV was also too red with regards to skin tones. I changed one of the settings to all the way on the green side.
the colors are extremely better with Samsung vs LG ..... the main advantage of LG is that they are easy to set up with a good filmmaker mode and they have an 83 inch model. If you are into anime , animation or cartoons you would be crazy to not get the Samsung as the colors are jaw dropping.
There's a misconception that just because something is colourful, that oversaturated colours objectively make it look better. The animators chose specific colours that make things look natural in the context of the world it is representing, and you get to see that in more accurate modes. You also get a bigger RANGE of colours when everything isn't just pushed to its extremities.
I appreciate your input on this. I have had mine for about 6 months. A couple observations. I use Dynamic mode almost all the time. That setting looks best to me whether watching DVDs or streaming. Everyone will probably have a different view depending on their own eyeballs. Also, regarding the operating system I have no complaints. All the things I use every day are at the top of the home page and I don't even notice ads. I do like that various settings are available with either the remote or the on screen icon. So far I have found the TV to be stellar.
What part of "...everyone will have a different view..." didn't you understand? It's the whole point of why these devices have adjustable settings. My settings work for me. You don't need to agree.
@@13dma1rz Being aggresive are we? No, everyone one will not have a different view! Some will have other preferences for sure but there is a standard that most people find ideal and try to match. Dynamic mode is so far away from recommended settings and the standard as possible and there is a reason why all serious users refer from it! The fact that you love it is probably because of habits. Try to use more correct settings and I will almost guarantee that you will never go back to those awful settings...
I have two Hisense TVs now. 55U8G and 65U8H. The 65U8H is the first TV I've owned that did not require a sound bar or AVR to have audio match the visuals. I bought both via Amazon on sale: $800 for the 55U8G and $750 for the 65U8H. Seeing the Samsung price point $3000+, there is no way LG, SONY or Samsung are worth that price premium.
Yeah I wouldn't put too much stock into a 5yr warranty on a TV, especially an OLED TV. I'd imagine that you'd have to fight tooth & nail before you can get anything out of that warranty. That said, I think it's better to have it than not.
Great review, thanks. Was once a loyal Samsung customer but not recently. Still happy with both my Sony A80J and LG C1. Sony’s QD prices are pretty insane. I’ll wait a while before I jump on the QD-OLED wagon and am very interested in what the new TCL QM8 will offer. Hopefully you’ll be getting a QM8 to review soon.
When buying a TV at this price i want to check of most boxes and lack of Dolby Vision is annoying at this price point. Dealbreaker when the competition is so good. Great review as allways! And to add on Tizen, i got an 8 series from 2017. They stopped upgrading the software after 2 years EXCEPT for adding bloatware.
@@cooldaddyslick6869 I honestly don't understand how we are now halfway through 2023 and the TizenOS is STILL as bad as it is? It's software. It's code. All you have to do is FIX the design and layout of it and then have your programmers code an update. It's not rocket surgery! How has that not happened yet? Are there honestly people inside of Samsung that don't yet realize how flawed/messed up the TizenOS is? They can't be THAT entirely out of touch with reality and their customers...can they?
@AndrewRobinson.--. I am a Samsung S95c owner and to me picture quality looks the same on both these picture modes. However I have lately noticed motion smoothing looks difference between the two modes. Have you noticed this? I prefer to have motion smoothing on unlike you recommend off. However I have both sliders set at zero
9:18 As someone with a QN90B I fully agree. The ads and, overall, poor UX makes me recommend everyone to skip Samsung TVs until they figure out their menus. I mean, at least an "input" button is something every TV should have. ADs cannot be fully disable without messing with router ad-blockers and that alone is a no-go for me no matter how good the panel may be.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I have a top of the range UHD Panasonic UB9000 which I bought to take advantage of DV. Samsung are absolute cowboys not implementing.
I'm not seeing reviewers mention that the LG offers a 5 year warranty on the panel of the G series OLED. That could be a big selling point for people worried about burn in or panel malfunctions.
Love the comments; makes one think we’re discussing “sound,” and what speakers are better. Just as subjective and based on the viewer. I’m loving my 77” LG C2 but not closed minded to better options as the picture quality between all three of these brands high-end models are great, and unless you have them side by side in a room, I doubt the average viewer would be unhappy with an S95C, Sony equivalent, or C2/G3 etc. Usage would be the most determinant factor on what’s most appropriate for someone. Anyway, solid insight into this TV Andrew/Kristi and I would imagine, very helpful for potential buyers. Thanks again and keep up the great work!! ❤
The 2023 85" Samsung QN900C 8K TV is the one I am most interested in, mostly because of the supposedly excellent 8K up-scaling that wasn't present on the 2022 QN900B
Got the 65” C2 a months ago and it’s amazing. Granted I am coming from my roommates TCL or Vizio 55” 4K LCD. But the jump in everything is so amazing. Playing the Deadspace remake was an awesome experience.
Several other reviewers out there that have already seen the G3, the S95C and the A95L in person have all said that the A95L is head and shoulders above the competition at just about every level. Sony is widening out the gap between them and their competition this year at the top of their lineup - the one that they opened up last year with the A95K. The early talk already is that Sony will likely win the 2023 "King of TV" shootout in the first week of August as the A95L is just so far out in front of the G3 and the S95C this year on color volume, image processing and motion handling with their newest update of the XR Cognitive processor. If Sony can pull it off, and there is every indication now that they will, that will be their fifth "King of TV" win in a row for their flagship TV. If you are LG or Samsung, you just know that's going to sting.
The developers killing off the PVE portion of the game without a lot of explanation beyond "we're not doing it" sucks. For a full breakdown of what really happened check this video out ruclips.net/video/ISsrCQQYsYY/видео.html
Okay so here comes the hate and I know I'm going to get a lot of grief for this. Samsung TVs are just 🤮 The fact that they still have not went after Dolby Vision. It's just ridiculous and I honestly think the reason why they don't is not just because of licensing and they would have to pay a small fraction. I honestly think it's because their TVs are not capable of doing and rendering Dolby Vision. They can never compare to Sony's processing. And like you said Andrew, what is the point of all of that brightness if they're just going to limit you? Now if your gamer and they truly did whip out. LG then yeah by all means go and get these horrible TVs. Other than that, when it comes to a true movie lover like myself, nothing compares to Sony and as far as the A95L that TV is going to destroy the market yet again and when TV of the year like last year. Sony can't be stopped when it comes to their processing. They will always rain supreme.. so Samsung LG, Hisense and TCL go grab an umbrella because they'll always be under the clouds while Sony sits above it.. Good morning Kristi and Andrew, enjoy your coffee! 😅
Awesome hot take Nick! Love it! Samsung does a lot of things well but they also make some choices that always have made me scratch my head. I think they've taken a few notes from Apple in trying to "go their own way" and with some things they've been successful, but in other cases...not so much. This TV is good, great even, but while I loved the image (in the right profile), I'm not confident I'd buy one for myself long term.
@@movie_av_impulse of course. FWIW, I wasn't directing my livestream comments at you but if you took something from my general remarks and found them helpful, I'm grateful for that. Hope you and the family is doing well now that every one is back home!
@@dastiffmeisterman I wish they still sold Panasonic TVs in the US but they don't! My 4k bluray player is Panasonic and I absolutely love it even over the oppo..
I think the question of the day should be ,why dont you just upgrade to a new phone ? There have been several reviews where your old outdated phone has caused an issue. Not hateing, I was rocking my Note 10 until about a month ago.
I don't care what anybody says the s95c being my first OLED is the best TV I've ever owned compared to the q60t QLED it replaced. I would have loved to have the 77 inch but I didn't have an extra $5,000 so got the 65 inch.
What?? The difference between the 65" and 77" was $5k?? I got my 65S95 for $2,100 and the 77S95C for $3k. Granted that is in Saudi Arabia, not in the states.
Even in store there is a huge difference in heat generation. I can feel the G3's heat walking by it. But not so on the S95C. This was part of the reason I decided on S95C.
As a professional Samsung hater ever since they took Pioneer out the TV game way back yonder. I watched this review on my S95B and couldn’t be happier.
Hi Andrew, I am with you. I enjoy my 85" QN900B very much and I returned a S95C 77" after 2 days of use. My QN900B has only 50-60 hours on since I use it for movie watching only along with my Z9K on upstairs. It has been disconnected from the wifi since day one, so the firmware is still on 1084 which is crazy bright. The s95C looked amazing in dark scene especially when stars and lights of houses were presented, but black crushed sometimes. The resolution looks higher than it is since the contrast is perfect. Unfortuntely, when it comes to specular highlights on bright scenes , the S95C is no match to the 8k Qled which I enjoy the most according to the contents I watch. For example, the details of the petals of a flower. Most importantly, no matter how advance the QD-OLED is, each pixel is a little bulb can only takes so much heat and eventually the bulb will degrade over time only faster the brighter they get.
Hello and greetings from Vegas! First, thank you to you and Kristi for the wonderful job you both do in reviewing the gear and producing your RUclips content. This review's timing is auspicious since I just had my Samsung 82" go down with a power supply issue. Your review was great but the issue for me is one of price. In general most of the TVs you all review tend to be in the $3K-6K range and thus not realistically attainable for most mortals. If I may make a suggestion (perhaps even a challenge), could you please consider this for a worthwhile video: A three way, budget big screen shoot out! Find 3 TVs, 80-85", 4k@60 models for less than $2500... and compare, contrast and do all the things you'd normally do for a review. I know I would find the results stimulating and something I could actually use in a real world buying scenario. I think a vast majority of other subscribers would find it illuminating as well. Thank you.
Here in the UK the S95C prices are 55" £2,699, 65" £3,599, 77" £5,099. That is a lot of money for any brand of TV, and if it has the same bent frame issues that the S95B suffered from i will be keeping well away from it. If i was investing this sort of money and wanted a large screen then i would choose a projector. Why pay for an often very poor operating system and speakers when all you want is the best image available for your money. Just add a good 4K Blu-Ray player and a TV box of your choice and you will have a far better experience.
@@zachariahadams The latest TV's are like cars, they are designed to last until the warranty expires. Buyers in the US must have deeper pockets than most other countries, or is it we buy what we can afford?
Lack of an 85” + makes this a non starter for real home theater enthusiast. Size will provide a more theater like experience even with some compromises to video quality. When they get this out in a larger size and push the 97”+ sizes I think will re-invigorate the market
The problem with QD-OLED isn't the panel, the panel is excellent. The problem lies with Samsung and their horrible QC, software, and firmware. Not putting up with it anymore.
Samsung is not the king of the hill in terms of TVs. I currently have the Sony A95K and it's the best TV period. Dolby Vision content is just outstanding (Disney+, Max, Paramount+, etc...). Also love the remote (backlighting).
Dolby Vision is over rated. 1% of all content has DV. A95K is absurdly priced. It's a great TV but price to performance is not the best in the category. I would've bought it if they had a 77" and an open box deal. I have LG C2 and even though DV is nice, almost none of my 4k physical discs (out of the 300 I have) have DV. DV is not a selling point since there is so little content that has it. It's like 8K TVs. Who cares about it since hardly any 8k content exists and it will take YEARS to get it. Go through your streaming services, most of Netflix shows are HD. Not even 4k. And we pay extra for the 4k service. We don't even have 4k broadcasts right now. Most if not all channels still broadcast at 720p or 1080p. That includes sports, news, TV shows.
@@cyberathlete With the many replies about DV, I think it is NOT overrated. Suggest you keep reading the replies here. As for price, I manage to nab my 65: for $2400.00 during Black Friday. As for streaming, I already made my point. Who watches at 720p??? Really?
Because of the bloatware alone, I'll avoid this TV and settle with a LG G3 as my gaming TV which I already prepared a PC for. I have a RTX 4090 and some wireless peripheral for some casual single player gaming. Other I'm on mouse and keyboard for competitive gaming with a triple monitor setup at a 1440p 240hz
@Hentai_Akuma My 4090 looks spectacular on my s95b, as does my ps5, and xbox series x, going thru my onkyo rz50 receiver 4k 120. I also have a qn90b in the same room for my sim rig monitor 50 inch. Bloatware, LOL. I also have an lg C6 3d tv from 2016. Theres no bloatware if you don't use it, kids...
As long as other manufactures doesn't come with a connect-box I'll always go with samsung! thats a must for me because I want to mount my tv to the wall. thnx for the review this TV has my attention ;)
@@cooldaddyslick6869 No, its just one cable and the point is, that if you want to add or replace a device you don't have to do this on the back of the tv and take it from the wall. you know what I mean?
I have been waiting to hear your take on the S95C. I have to agree with Kristi, Samsung colors especially skin tone have always seemed off and distracting to me, even on the S95B. It is great to see this is improved with the S95C. Just waiting now to see how the A95L turns out.
Thanks! Samsung was on for release but give it to Sony they didn't push out product just to make a show deadline which was a first. Nothing out there to make me jump for a new OLED and I do look!
Appreciate you watching as always Lonnie, and yes, if I were on the market for a new OLED in 2023 I'd wait until ALL the new models were out and on the market before making any final decisions.
Sony is coming to market this year WAY later than they should be and they know that's a problem that they absolutley need to get on top of and correct for next year when their 2024 lineup rolls out, but there is some actual method to their madness there in doing that. Having that extra time to tweak and fine-tune their software and their default settings/levels gives them a big advantage over companies like Samsung that went to market months earlier. It allows them the ability to make certain that their new products are performing at the absolute top of their game. This is part of what allows them to be so incredibly well reviewed by everyone when they finally do come out. Case in point, their new X93L mini-LED that is just now shipping and getting into reviewer's hands this week. People are absolutely blown away by what they are seeing with it. Yes, Sony is late to market this year, but fortunately for them, they CLEARLY made good use of all that extra time. Needless to say, the customers that elected to wait, will unquestionably be very glad they did.
Nice review. I trust LG oled for build quality, reliability and firmware updates. I bought a 77 C3, perfect on filmmaker mode and dark room. 120 fps gsync for games. All I need. No S90C for me this year.
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Looks really nice. My career is as a video producer and your production value was what initially drew me to your channel. It’s great to see you and Kristi always working to make your content better even though you’re already miles ahead of most.
Funny that you just released the review as I was just able to spend half an hour with an unlocked 55" model in store yesterday. I liked the picture, the way it handled light in the room (not being pitch black but a very dark grey), the flat reflections rather than wibbly wobbly reflections of LG panels etc. of the S95B already. I always thought the Samsung was more realistic looking / more plasma-like than what LG produces (as well as everyone using LG panels). What really impressed me about the S95C was the black frame insertion. At 50 Hz it at least doesn't introduce any artificial smoothing if I don't want it, though the image flickers at a seizure inducing level, so... meh. However using 24p content, regardless of HDR or not, it is bloody brilliant. The flickering is reduced to totally acceptable levels, even in bright scenes, where the S95B struggled. Also, the brightness seems pretty high for BFI. Motion is however improved, watching scenes from LotR looked quite good. Basically, this is the very first TV since the end of plasma that I consider worth getting. Sadly, the S95B has gotten really affordable, but the S95C is anything but, especially considering the lack of Dolby Vision, which is still a big setback to me (not because HDR10+ sucks, it doesn't, but what is the point of HDR10+ when you don't have any content?) and as you mentioned Tizen, which is still god awful. Sadly, the A95L will be even more expensive (and kind of ugly... those two nostrils Sony always puts on their TVs!), but when you factor in the cost of an Apple TV 4K in order to fix the Samsung... The S90C could be an alternative, however the smaller sizes use the old panels from the S95B until they run out of them, but most likely even then the performance will be limited to the models with lesser panels. So the only option is the 77", but we don't know if that one is "unlocked" or if they tried to keep all S90C on one level. Samsung being Samsung, I guess. Oh and one more thing: I believe the black crush is a technical limitation with all OLED screens, just that some deal with issues around near black by crushing blacks, and others by boosting blacks.
yea ... the LG might have a heat sink but I was at best buy the other day and was floored by the amount of heat it puts out into the room - get the air conditioner ready for this summer ....
DV is over rated. How many titles, out of all the titles that exist have DV? And are you watching ALL of them? If 20 shows have it, and you don't genuinely care to watch them, who cares about DV. I have TVs with DV but it is not a selling point. No video games have it, hardly any 4k physical media movies, or streaming shows, not a single broadcast channel or sports. What is the big deal?
@@classicgalactica5879 I think they are a dolby hater, a samsung fanboy or an open source fanboy or a bot with how they have commented on every single comment of dolby vision
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Just wait for SONY A95L to hit the shelves. LOL. That will destroy everything else.
@@KING_DRANZER We shall see! ;-)
100% wish 'static tone mapping' was something that we could apply to old tv models ... can't STAND brightness jank
... so one of the Disappointments of a SMALL place is maybe I don't have room for a 30 Inch T.V., but wish I could find a T.V. that has the greater definition. :( it sucks, just saying.
@@Labor_Jones have you got a large wall?
Sharing my experience here.
I am not a TV technology buff... went to store to buy the tv yesterday. Compared C3 and s95c with the same videos on youtube 4k settings, both connected to the same wifi.
Actually I went to the store with c3 oled in my mind. But when i compared them side to side i found s95c had better details and colour, depths levels.
Ordered s95c then and there.
Sony tvs were 20% pricier than these both tvs.
I own the S95C 77", S95B 65", Sony A95K 65", A80J 55", and the LGC1 48" (for gaming), I love all my sets, and all have their positives and negatives, thats why I have so many, and after calibration, tweaking settings in service menus, downloading Color App for LG, the S95C is by far (except for the S95B, and A95K which aren't too far behind), the best out the bunch, DV is a joke if you know how to calibrate, you can actually attain a way better picture. I had the G3 for a week, I just had to see the PQ after calibration, and the S95C still had a better overall picture, returned it to BB.
I now await the Sony A95L to see how that fairs...
Sounds like you're quite the TV connoisseur! Appreciate you sharing your personal experiences.
This is a great tv without question and I almost waited for it as I really like Samsung and already own the QN90B from last year. No Dolby Vision is really a non issue but in the end I got such a great deal on a 77” LG G2(with gaming playing the biggest deciding factor) I jumped on it and have absolutely no regrets. Although as far as the S95C goes if the dimming is as aggressive as you say I’d definitely be going into the service menu and turning it all off(not recommended for the average user) and enjoying the tv from there.
7:50 My biggest pet peeve for TVs is crushed blacks. Shadow detail is everything. I do wish Panasonic was in the U.S. as they do the best with this.
Great review. S95C was unSamsung good! But, I still hate its operating system. Samsung’s software division sucks a BIG TIME. Samsung has a great hardware, and it always had great hardware. But, the software always and still sucks.
Their software/OS has always been a sticking point for me too.
I love that he shares my opinion on the 900B. I think 8k TV's are amazing especially when they get discounted to more reasonable prices.
8k TVs are a waste of money currently.
8k at the distance you would sit is pretty much useless over 4k. I doubt many would be able to tell the difference between the two unless they got real close.
@@lilpain1997 I have an 8k and I notice it at 85" TV size. The extra sharpness is amazing.
@@deanwilliams433 doesn't counteract the better picture quality of OLED which would likely be even cheaper.
@@42degrees86 Sure, but mini-led is very close in overall black levels and the blooming issue is something I don't see in 99.5% of real world content (not some white box moving across a black screen). I game more than I watch movies and shows, and I have no need to take any burn-in precautions. Overall I think it depends on your use case.
The dimming is a no-go. Disabling ABL is also no option for warranty purposes.
Will stick with LED for the next years until OLED matures and can keep its brightness without dimming down.
Its supposed to dim, that is how they keep the display safe. It dims on static picture that is not moving after a certain time. Not just in general, people need to stop assuming and find out them selves. All Oleds are supposed to do this to lessen burn in. Even LG and Sony's.
It sucks that Samsung doesn’t have Dolby vision but at the same times Samsungs HDR is just as comparable to Dolby Vision when you out the G3 and S95C side by side you can’t even tell the difference. Tizen is frustrating so I suggest Apple TV but I don’t like webOS either so. While G3 being mountable only should be an issue because you pay $100 extra for stand no one complains about that one.
Look forward to the inevitable S95C VS. A95L comparo
Well, I have wondered since your review of the S95B if you guy got a bad unit or if the time period you had with it was while they had a bad version of the firmware out for it because I have had the S95B for the past year and never had the same complaints with it you had and feel everything you said about the S95C applies to the S95B. Also the LG C3 is the esact same TV as the C2 was lasy year and is almost not even worth reviewing. Luminance levels and the PQ-EOTF curve measure exactly the same but the G3 (so long as it's the 55", 65" or 77") has the new MLA (Micro Lens Array) tech and is much brighter than last year's G2 and is defiantly worth getting in for a review. As for the A95L, I haven't seen it yet, I'm pretty sure not too many people outside of Sony have, but I can't wait to get it into the store to see it.
Appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
We have the samsung 8k Qled and the upscaling fir movies ect is incredable,however for Football ie Soccer if the signal is not 4k its a disaster as the ball disapeers when it clashes with the crowd in the background. Otherwise love the TV.
As a football fan thats very good to know.
Hi Andrew & Kristi,
Love the channel so thanks so much for your work. I wonder if hooking an Apple TV to this telly would create a perfect combination of OS performance and picture quality, id be very interested to know whether the TV would automatically adjust its picture settings within the Apple TV menu. Did you happen to experiment with this in your testing?
Thanks again,
Daniel
Andrew is 100% on how terrible the Samsung Tizen operating system is. There are some great gaming features that many TV manufacturers do not have, but it is so slow and takes too much effort to navigate that it's frustrating. I already had an LG OLED C2 in the house when I picked up a Samsung QN90B. The picture on the Samsung was gorgeous, but the software aggravated me so much that I returned it for a 2nd C2 in the same size.
that's being over dramatic ...... I have owned both myself ... the software is not that bad on the Samsung
Use a Roku and enjoy the superior image on the Samsung. If the OS is that bad on the 77" S95C I ordered, I'll get a $30 Roku and call it a day.
you will love the image on the Samsung -its a pretty big step up
Kind of a weird thought, but, wether you’re a fan or a hater of Apple, you have to agree, there is no other operating system on the market for TVs that’s as good as AppleTV4K. Period. If you’re using Tyzen, or even LGs OS, you need counseling honestly. That being said, I hate the one connect box. I had two of them replaced within the first year because of internal problems. And I don’t need my TV to be paper thin. Especially when it’s 70+ inches. It’s good that there’s more competition in the OLED market, competition is great for consumers, but Samsung has a lot to work on, and I mean a lot.
Great review and conversations!
Hope everyone is having a great day.
AppleTVs absolutely rock! I put them above GoogleTV at this point, though GTV has gotten crazy good in recent years. TIZEN or webOS make me want to punch the wall sometimes and don't even get me started on whatever the hell VIZIO continues to push.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I honestly forgot Vizio was still around.. but yes. AppleTV is just spot on. No ads, all the apps you can imagine, easy to use, and if you’re already in the Apples EcoSystem it’s an absolute gem.
If I buy this TV, I'd still plug in a Chromecast. So buying a Sony and saving an HDMI port is better I guess 😂
Thanks for a well balanced, honest review. Not on top of my new tv list since Im not a Samsung reliability fan(only tv that ever broke on me was a Samsung LED years ago) . Cant wait till the Sony A95L arrives and you review it. Lots of old dvd concerts in my collection so Sony upscaling excellence puts the brand at top of my list.
If you want to enjoy legacy content Samsung would be near the bottom of my list both in terms of scaling as well as connection options/support.
I Have The S95B, And Not A Fan When It Comes To The CPU/ OPPERATING SYSTEM NOT @ ALL! Probably The Best Picture Quality When It Comes To 📺 I Had In My Home, But I'm Waiting For The View On The New Sony This Year. Again... The Samsung S95B Cpu Ect.Ect Doesn't Fair Well With eArc Avr ( I Have The Denon AVRX6700H!) Like It Did On My LG CX!
Curious again. I know you would pick the 900B over the s95c, BUT what about the 900b in the 65 inch compared to the s95c in a 65 inch. Some reviews say 8k is worth it in the larger sizes but not 65 inch and that the s95c is better in the 65 inch over the 900b 8k. Thoughts?
Great detail video.
What about burin in?The lack of heatsink make it more risky for burn in?
We cannot comment on longterm burn-in concerns or lack thereof due to us having only a limited number of weeks with the display (which has already been returned to the manufacturer following the conclusion of this review). We rarely get to keep TVs for more than 90 days as samples are hard to come by. The TVs we've chosen to make our own have not had any burn-in issues, but they're also LED-based models.
I just got the 65" S95C because:
NextGen TV just was rolled out in our market
Samsung has a sale on their high end OLEDs and Q series soundbars
My only TV was a 6 year old UN7100 50" and... it's football season.
The difference moving from edge lit 4K non-HDR LCD is, quite frankly, stunning. There is some HDR10+ sample content on RUclips which was captivating (the night scene of a Tokyo city street).
I use mine set in Film Maker mode.
Thanks for the review.
Do you use Filmmaker mode for sports?
@@PeteJake100 I do.
This man gets it
I used to buy nothing but Samsung but my last purchase was the Sony Bravia 950H which I enjoy immensely. With other brands stepping up and Samsung glitching I think they have lost their automatic top standing. What were they thinking? Thank you Andrew and Kristi for another great review.
@@PedroMartins-yv1lv Sales volume doesn’t make them better. Samsung is at best the 4th best TV manufacturer of picture quality and accuracy are your concern. 1. Sony 2. Panasonic 3. LG 4. Samsung
@@PedroMartins-yv1lv also QD-OLED is showing a far higher chance of burn in than W-OLED. It’s significant. I would say the tech isn’t smoothed out yet so I personally wouldn’t touch it for a few years
9:18 buy an AppleTV and turn off energy consumption features - Fixed.
The real problem with the Samsung is the dropouts in game mode.
Think the tech is cool although wouldn't jump from my C1 yet. Lack of Dolby Vision still is annoying and would make me go elsewhere.
The lack of Dolby Vision is going to be a sticking point for a lot of customers when considering ANY Samsung TV as they do not support it on a whole.
I don't think you'll ever see DV in a Samsung.
@@KristiWright Yeah I have come to accept that, hence why I probably will go always with LG or when I get a few pay raises Sony lol.
@@TimI1S HAHA. Can relate :)
Wake me up when Samsung supports Dolby Vision. 😉
( _sorry for being a specs-queen_ )
( _don't get me wrong, i support their stance in supporting the 'open' codecs ... but the UHD discs [and certainly streams] ain't making HDR10+ an included sub-stream by standard ... but I cannot get on with that if I can't play things at the best quality on an otherwise stunning display_ )
You're going to be well rested my friend.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews hehehe ... tell me about it! 😅
there LCD easily breaks. Mine only last 3 months.
I know its not OLED, but how does it compare to Sony X95K ? (or X95L for that matter) do we now need OLED again, or is the miniLED still the way to go ?
Unless a candle comes to rest right below the black bars ;)
"Aggressive light shifts" are what interest me in this tv. Part of the reason i bought the Alienware monitor with the same tech.
Samsung never was king of the hill with OLEDs. They only just got into the game and it's about time.
yes - but when they finally released one it crushed the other brands
I will admit that is one sexy tv. But I had a really bad experience from Samsung tv’s in the past, even tho those were the plasma days of TVs.
The lack of Dolby Vision is just irritating at this point and I can’t stand their bloat wear and their settings menu.
I don’t know about you but to me Samsung makes it difficult at times when playing with their settings. I don’t like it.
But one thing you said that I never thought about. That 8k is the best 4k out. After you broke it down it made a lot of sense. Just wish the price tags of 8k would come down some.
Being forced to watch adverts. Forget that 💩. It sounds like tv's now are just that, with nice viewing but horrendous user interface. Long may my old slow operating system, lg 3D tv, with a good enough picture, live.
Short answer NO.
Long answer; between the bent panel, premature burn in, removing or nerfing of features with firmware updates, atrocious software, much shorter warranty, no heatsink on the back to properly handle high nits, no Dolby vision, the answer is still NO.
It look nice when you unbox it and play around with it for a few hours. Living with it for the next few YEARS is an entirely different proposition.
Oh, it gets much better than even that with Samsung. If you ever want to have some fun sometime, Google up an article by searching the key words "Samsung" and "TV BLOCK". That one is certainly an eye opener, to say the least!
I recently purchased the s95c.
When the TV is on the one connect box makes a high pitched buzzing noise.
And when its switched off the noise changes more to a hum.
Does anybody out there with this TV have a noisy box?
My 77” S95C will arrive in a few days with their best soundbar system, and I will drive it with my Apple TV 4K box. It’s replacing my old 65” Sony 4K that I bought 10 years ago before HDR. I hope we like this OLED because we won’t upgrade again for another 10 years.
How do you like it? Watch out for burn-in issues. Don't let your TV run on the same channel for extended hours. Have you bought a soundbar or you still need suggestions?
@@KhaledTheSaudiHawkII Thanks. I absolutely LOVE this Samsung OLED 77” S95C. We have it turned on for only 2 or 3 hours a day in the evening. We don’t have TV channels, so no news displays with burn-in ribbons scrolling across the bottom. We don’t watch sports, so no fixed sports score graphics on the screen. We watch streamed movies, documentaries, RUclips, concerts, and stage plays. I am probably overly careful about burn-in. We watch everything in filmmaker mode, which is unbelievably gorgeous and lifelike. The only problem with this TV isn’t the TV but the content available. This TV can magnificently display 4K, HDR, and 60 fps, but most content out there is not up to that standard. As a result, this TV is almost overkill, and an 8K TV definitely would be overkill for a long time to come. We have a long way to go before all content will be in 4K and HDR, much less 8K. But this TV does its best to upscale HD. The best content for this TV I have found are the artistic HDR videos on RUclips by Jacob & Katie Schwartz. Absolutely stunning! That’s what I use to show off this TV to visitors. The Samsung S990C Sound system (I hope I have the model # correct) is outstanding surround sound and has many modes to make the best of whatever audio content we are streaming. I can also stream music by WiFi from my phone to the sound system with the TV off. The screen saver video on Apple TV has some of the highest quality 4K HDR content out there! Sometimes I just watch the screen saver videos of scenery because they are so crisp and spectacular! I highly recommend this TV and sound system, but don’t be disappointed when most video content available does not live up to the amazing display capabilities of this TV.
The TV to avoid. Call any company that handles tv repairs and replacement. 90% oled replacements are Samsung. Plus a/v decoding chipset and software that handles all that is pre alpha stage. They added a lot of brightness without adding the heavy heatsink it needs, combine that with Samsung QC. Same ish diff toilet.
I don't know, but I would assume the Sony will be even better. Same panel with Sony processing which has a pretty solid reputation.
I thought only Panasonic is doing their own processing while every other company basically has the same picture? But i might be missinformed
Plus Dolby vision ✅✅
@@armerschluca2576 Sony has always done their own processing and is generally viewed as the leader in this category.
I have to choose between the s95C and the Q800B, which one would you choose ? And there both the same price 🎉
Sorry it’s also a 65” model
Q800B is a soundbar
I guess you’re talking about the QN800B in which case of course you go with the S95C
Unboxed the 77" S95C with the help of my wife. She forgot she had just put lotion on her hands (ya I know no white gloves, she says the TV slips when she wears them). Any way, she forgot about the freshly put lotion on her hands and when I saw hazy hand marks on the TV I asked her WTH. She said oops I forgot I had hand lotion on. Been trying to wipe them with a microfiber cloth for 30 minutes, used it damp, heated up the mf cloth, tried circular, back and forth. Not a difference. Those marks seem like the chemicals in the lotion have reacted or attached to the anti glare coating. Emailed Samsung. Not sure what else I can try to use on the screen to get rid of them. Sigh
Damn you're probably out of luck. Panels used on these high end TVs are super sensitive to oils (such as those on human hands), and lotion is basically a highly concentrated version of that. I'd recommend calling a specialty tech shop or Best Buy or something to see if there's anything they can apply to it to eliminate the marks. But yeah that's rough. If my wife did that I'd momentarily consider divorce lol. These things ain't cheap!
How is the divorce coming along?
@@Grande79 lol there is none. She is the one who bought the TV for me for Father's day gift. We had our first child last year. So can't get mad about a gift :)
id try to return it and hope they dont see the marks...
@@kylebocanegra5948 opened a case with Samsung. It's weird that even my own hand prints are not coming off and I wash my hands every time in warm water with soap before I touch the TV. Samsung going to send a tech out to see what is going on.
The s90C is very close to the s95C besides the peak brightness. S90C would’ve been a better review comparable to to a c2/c3
Great review.
Will you be getting your hands on Apple’s vision pro when it comes out next year?
I respect your deep reviews on everything.
When Apple says you can watch tv that’s extremely big I’m cautious about it.
We have discussed whether or not to bring the Apple Vision Pro to the channel. I am very curious but also have concerns that we may discuss if and when we review that product.
Although I like it the best, the movie mode in my Samsung 4K TV is too yellow. My TV was also too red with regards to skin tones. I changed one of the settings to all the way on the green side.
Hey, thanks very helpful. I think I like the Sony or the LG better
Thanks for watching!
the colors are extremely better with Samsung vs LG ..... the main advantage of LG is that they are easy to set up with a good filmmaker mode and they have an 83 inch model. If you are into anime , animation or cartoons you would be crazy to not get the Samsung as the colors are jaw dropping.
There's a misconception that just because something is colourful, that oversaturated colours objectively make it look better.
The animators chose specific colours that make things look natural in the context of the world it is representing, and you get to see that in more accurate modes. You also get a bigger RANGE of colours when everything isn't just pushed to its extremities.
I have A/B them at the store and owned them both at home .... its no contest ,,,,, Samsung hands down
@@justsaying993 Well hdtvtest said that s95c in some category is better capable than reference, benchmark monitors so its hard to judge accuracy.
I appreciate your input on this. I have had mine for about 6 months. A couple observations. I use Dynamic mode almost all the time. That setting looks best to me whether watching DVDs or streaming. Everyone will probably have a different view depending on their own eyeballs. Also, regarding the operating system I have no complaints. All the things I use every day are at the top of the home page and I don't even notice ads. I do like that various settings are available with either the remote or the on screen icon. So far I have found the TV to be stellar.
You should go have your eyes checked!
What part of "...everyone will have a different view..." didn't you understand? It's the whole point of why these devices have adjustable settings. My settings work for me. You don't need to agree.
@@13dma1rz Being aggresive are we?
No, everyone one will not have a different view!
Some will have other preferences for sure but there is a standard that most people find ideal and try to match.
Dynamic mode is so far away from recommended settings and the standard as possible and there is a reason why all serious users refer from it!
The fact that you love it is probably because of habits.
Try to use more correct settings and I will almost guarantee that you will never go back to those awful settings...
@@supergrissi How is my response aggressive? I simply started my preference. You think otherwise. Ok. Use those settings. No disagreement from me.
I have two Hisense TVs now. 55U8G and 65U8H. The 65U8H is the first TV I've owned that did not require a sound bar or AVR to have audio match the visuals. I bought both via Amazon on sale: $800 for the 55U8G and $750 for the 65U8H. Seeing the Samsung price point $3000+, there is no way LG, SONY or Samsung are worth that price premium.
I have the 55U8H and it performs amazingly with all the features a smart tv can have… the price puts all to shame.
All TVs look good, but I choose the LG G3 because there is a 5-year warranty
Dnt get fooled by that, u need to have a significant amount of burn in from them to honor it
Yeah I wouldn't put too much stock into a 5yr warranty on a TV, especially an OLED TV. I'd imagine that you'd have to fight tooth & nail before you can get anything out of that warranty. That said, I think it's better to have it than not.
Great review, thanks. Was once a loyal Samsung customer but not recently. Still happy with both my Sony A80J and LG C1. Sony’s QD prices are pretty insane. I’ll wait a while before I jump on the QD-OLED wagon and am very interested in what the new TCL QM8 will offer. Hopefully you’ll be getting a QM8 to review soon.
When buying a TV at this price i want to check of most boxes and lack of Dolby Vision is annoying at this price point. Dealbreaker when the competition is so good.
Great review as allways!
And to add on Tizen, i got an 8 series from 2017. They stopped upgrading the software after 2 years EXCEPT for adding bloatware.
Really cool panel technology bundled with one of the worst modern operating systems.
If you're not a fan of Tizen, then yes.
It is horrible.
@@cooldaddyslick6869 I honestly don't understand how we are now halfway through 2023 and the TizenOS is STILL as bad as it is? It's software. It's code. All you have to do is FIX the design and layout of it and then have your programmers code an update. It's not rocket surgery! How has that not happened yet? Are there honestly people inside of Samsung that don't yet realize how flawed/messed up the TizenOS is? They can't be THAT entirely out of touch with reality and their customers...can they?
You say filmmaker and movie mode look different to you? I was told if the values are the same in both modes the picture would look the same
@AndrewRobinson.--. I am a Samsung S95c owner and to me picture quality looks the same on both these picture modes. However I have lately noticed motion smoothing looks difference between the two modes. Have you noticed this? I prefer to have motion smoothing on unlike you recommend off. However I have both sliders set at zero
9:18 As someone with a QN90B I fully agree. The ads and, overall, poor UX makes me recommend everyone to skip Samsung TVs until they figure out their menus. I mean, at least an "input" button is something every TV should have. ADs cannot be fully disable without messing with router ad-blockers and that alone is a no-go for me no matter how good the panel may be.
Lack of dolby vision still at this point?? Cmon…
It's a Samsung thing.
Samsung is upset their investment in HDR/10 isn't as well received as Dolby Vision.
Just like the crap tizen software, a samsung thing.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews I have a top of the range UHD Panasonic UB9000 which I bought to take advantage of DV. Samsung are absolute cowboys not implementing.
Such a joke.
No Android tv, no buy even with my Q900b bar.
I'm not seeing reviewers mention that the LG offers a 5 year warranty on the panel of the G series OLED. That could be a big selling point for people worried about burn in or panel malfunctions.
Will the Q950A work well with its Q-Symphony feature? I am wondering of Q-Symphony 3.0 is based on the sound bar or the C series TVs
Love the comments; makes one think we’re discussing “sound,” and what speakers are better. Just as subjective and based on the viewer.
I’m loving my 77” LG C2 but not closed minded to better options as the picture quality between all three of these brands high-end models are great, and unless you have them side by side in a room, I doubt the average viewer would be unhappy with an S95C, Sony equivalent, or C2/G3 etc. Usage would be the most determinant factor on what’s most appropriate for someone.
Anyway, solid insight into this TV Andrew/Kristi and I would imagine, very helpful for potential buyers. Thanks again and keep up the great work!! ❤
The 2023 85" Samsung QN900C 8K TV is the one I am most interested in, mostly because of the supposedly excellent 8K up-scaling that wasn't present on the 2022 QN900B
Got the 65” C2 a months ago and it’s amazing. Granted I am coming from my roommates TCL or Vizio 55” 4K LCD. But the jump in everything is so amazing. Playing the Deadspace remake was an awesome experience.
The lg g3 is the best 👌🏻
waiting for to upgrade my Sony A80K to the A95L….
Several other reviewers out there that have already seen the G3, the S95C and the A95L in person have all said that the A95L is head and shoulders above the competition at just about every level. Sony is widening out the gap between them and their competition this year at the top of their lineup - the one that they opened up last year with the A95K. The early talk already is that Sony will likely win the 2023 "King of TV" shootout in the first week of August as the A95L is just so far out in front of the G3 and the S95C this year on color volume, image processing and motion handling with their newest update of the XR Cognitive processor. If Sony can pull it off, and there is every indication now that they will, that will be their fifth "King of TV" win in a row for their flagship TV. If you are LG or Samsung, you just know that's going to sting.
That overwatch diss, ouch lmao. Very nice review.
The developers killing off the PVE portion of the game without a lot of explanation beyond "we're not doing it" sucks. For a full breakdown of what really happened check this video out ruclips.net/video/ISsrCQQYsYY/видео.html
Okay so here comes the hate and I know I'm going to get a lot of grief for this. Samsung TVs are just 🤮 The fact that they still have not went after Dolby Vision. It's just ridiculous and I honestly think the reason why they don't is not just because of licensing and they would have to pay a small fraction. I honestly think it's because their TVs are not capable of doing and rendering Dolby Vision. They can never compare to Sony's processing. And like you said Andrew, what is the point of all of that brightness if they're just going to limit you? Now if your gamer and they truly did whip out. LG then yeah by all means go and get these horrible TVs. Other than that, when it comes to a true movie lover like myself, nothing compares to Sony and as far as the A95L that TV is going to destroy the market yet again and when TV of the year like last year. Sony can't be stopped when it comes to their processing. They will always rain supreme.. so Samsung LG, Hisense and TCL go grab an umbrella because they'll always be under the clouds while Sony sits above it.. Good morning Kristi and Andrew, enjoy your coffee! 😅
Awesome hot take Nick! Love it! Samsung does a lot of things well but they also make some choices that always have made me scratch my head. I think they've taken a few notes from Apple in trying to "go their own way" and with some things they've been successful, but in other cases...not so much. This TV is good, great even, but while I loved the image (in the right profile), I'm not confident I'd buy one for myself long term.
P.S... I just wanted to say thank you again..
@@movie_av_impulse of course. FWIW, I wasn't directing my livestream comments at you but if you took something from my general remarks and found them helpful, I'm grateful for that. Hope you and the family is doing well now that every one is back home!
Panasonic TVs are the best
@@dastiffmeisterman I wish they still sold Panasonic TVs in the US but they don't! My 4k bluray player is Panasonic and I absolutely love it even over the oppo..
I think the question of the day should be ,why dont you just upgrade to a new phone ? There have been several reviews where your old outdated phone has caused an issue. Not hateing, I was rocking my Note 10 until about a month ago.
I don't care what anybody says the s95c being my first OLED is the best TV I've ever owned compared to the q60t QLED it replaced. I would have loved to have the 77 inch but I didn't have an extra $5,000 so got the 65 inch.
No duh. Your frame of reference, the Q60T was already trash to begin with
What?? The difference between the 65" and 77" was $5k?? I got my 65S95 for $2,100 and the 77S95C for $3k. Granted that is in Saudi Arabia, not in the states.
the Samsung oleds run so much cooler than the LG g3 series - put your hand in front of both of them and report what you found back to this thread
Even in store there is a huge difference in heat generation. I can feel the G3's heat walking by it. But not so on the S95C. This was part of the reason I decided on S95C.
As a professional Samsung hater ever since they took Pioneer out the TV game way back yonder. I watched this review on my S95B and couldn’t be happier.
Hahaha good one
No heat sink on this price tag ? Samsung 🥱😴🤫🤔
Doesn’t need one, mine stays nice and bright without it
Even the S95B had a passive heat disposal layer last year, they just didn't shout about it (as they basically did not promote the TV itself last year)
TV isn't hot
The Nvidia shield pro can give the s95c a better looking picture thanks to its upscaler
Hi Andrew, I am with you. I enjoy my 85" QN900B very much and I returned a S95C 77" after 2 days of use. My QN900B has only 50-60 hours on since I use it for movie watching only along with my Z9K on upstairs. It has been disconnected from the wifi since day one, so the firmware is still on 1084 which is crazy bright. The s95C looked amazing in dark scene especially when stars and lights of houses were presented, but black crushed sometimes. The resolution looks higher than it is since the contrast is perfect. Unfortuntely, when it comes to specular highlights on bright scenes , the S95C is no match to the 8k Qled which I enjoy the most according to the contents I watch. For example, the details of the petals of a flower. Most importantly, no matter how advance the QD-OLED is, each pixel is a little bulb can only takes so much heat and eventually the bulb will degrade over time only faster the brighter they get.
Qd-oled will soon be forgotten. The burn-in and screen degradation is terrible. It mostly just over saturates colors anyway.
Hello and greetings from Vegas! First, thank you to you and Kristi for the wonderful job you both do in reviewing the gear and producing your RUclips content. This review's timing is auspicious since I just had my Samsung 82" go down with a power supply issue. Your review was great but the issue for me is one of price. In general most of the TVs you all review tend to be in the $3K-6K range and thus not realistically attainable for most mortals. If I may make a suggestion (perhaps even a challenge), could you please consider this for a worthwhile video: A three way, budget big screen shoot out! Find 3 TVs, 80-85", 4k@60 models for less than $2500... and compare, contrast and do all the things you'd normally do for a review. I know I would find the results stimulating and something I could actually use in a real world buying scenario. I think a vast majority of other subscribers would find it illuminating as well. Thank you.
Here in the UK the S95C prices are 55" £2,699, 65" £3,599, 77" £5,099.
That is a lot of money for any brand of TV, and if it has the same bent frame issues that the S95B suffered from
i will be keeping well away from it.
If i was investing this sort of money and wanted a large screen then i would choose a projector.
Why pay for an often very poor operating system and speakers when all you want is the best image
available for your money.
Just add a good 4K Blu-Ray player and a TV box of your choice and you will have a far better experience.
@@zachariahadams The latest TV's are like cars, they are designed to last until the warranty expires.
Buyers in the US must have deeper pockets than most other countries, or is it we buy what we can afford?
I love 95c very happy
🙋♂️THANKS FOR THE REVIEW ANDREW 🤗💚💚💚
It's more about Samsungs notoriously bad customer service than anything else.
I have no issues with speed of Tizen. Now maybe someone doesn’t like the design but the speed on S95C is just the same as all my Google TVs
Hey Andrew, when will there be a review of X95L 🙏. Thank you
Nice set: but I myself would never go new unless it's 8k.
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The S95C is king for now.
Lack of an 85” + makes this a non starter for real home theater enthusiast. Size will provide a more theater like experience even with some compromises to video quality. When they get this out in a larger size and push the 97”+ sizes I think will re-invigorate the market
The problem with QD-OLED isn't the panel, the panel is excellent.
The problem lies with Samsung and their horrible QC, software, and firmware.
Not putting up with it anymore.
Samsung is not the king of the hill in terms of TVs. I currently have the Sony A95K and it's the best TV period. Dolby Vision content is just outstanding (Disney+, Max, Paramount+, etc...). Also love the remote (backlighting).
Dolby Vision is over rated. 1% of all content has DV. A95K is absurdly priced. It's a great TV but price to performance is not the best in the category. I would've bought it if they had a 77" and an open box deal. I have LG C2 and even though DV is nice, almost none of my 4k physical discs (out of the 300 I have) have DV. DV is not a selling point since there is so little content that has it. It's like 8K TVs. Who cares about it since hardly any 8k content exists and it will take YEARS to get it. Go through your streaming services, most of Netflix shows are HD. Not even 4k. And we pay extra for the 4k service. We don't even have 4k broadcasts right now. Most if not all channels still broadcast at 720p or 1080p. That includes sports, news, TV shows.
When you connect a 1TB hard drive to it, how long does it take to read?
@@cyberathlete With the many replies about DV, I think it is NOT overrated. Suggest you keep reading the replies here. As for price, I manage to nab my 65: for $2400.00 during Black Friday. As for streaming, I already made my point. Who watches at 720p??? Really?
@@yvanokuba1649 Adapter anyone?
With Sky satellite box, Sonys are poor for normal viewing.
Please see if you can review the new TCL QM8. Want your thoughta before i buy a new TV for football season.
Because of the bloatware alone, I'll avoid this TV and settle with a LG G3 as my gaming TV which I already prepared a PC for. I have a RTX 4090 and some wireless peripheral for some casual single player gaming. Other I'm on mouse and keyboard for competitive gaming with a triple monitor setup at a 1440p 240hz
@Hentai_Akuma My 4090 looks spectacular on my s95b, as does my ps5, and xbox series x, going thru my onkyo rz50 receiver 4k 120. I also have a qn90b in the same room for my sim rig monitor 50 inch. Bloatware, LOL. I also have an lg C6 3d tv from 2016. Theres no bloatware if you don't use it, kids...
since you got me thinking about a big tv vs a projector are you going to review the Sony XR-98X90L? that's what I have my eye on now :)
That is up to Sony.
As long as other manufactures doesn't come with a connect-box I'll always go with samsung! thats a must for me because I want to mount my tv to the wall. thnx for the review this TV has my attention ;)
But don't you still have the wires from the box and power cord still coming out the back of the tv?
It’s one single cable about 7mm thick which includes the power and everything else
@@cooldaddyslick6869 No, its just one cable and the point is, that if you want to add or replace a device you don't have to do this on the back of the tv and take it from the wall. you know what I mean?
I don’t need it.. I have a high end avr unit. I don’t see the point plugging my avr into a one connect box.. less items in the signal path
I have been waiting to hear your take on the S95C. I have to agree with Kristi, Samsung colors especially skin tone have always seemed off and distracting to me, even on the S95B. It is great to see this is improved with the S95C. Just waiting now to see how the A95L turns out.
A95L is going to be the very best 4K hands down and everyone knows It , only problem Is It'll be $1000 extra.
How do you feel the a90j does against the s95c as far as processing goes?
Hi. What’s the tv/media console unit?
You'll find that info in the description :).
Anyone can comment how accurate is the phone calibration on the S95C?
This is covered in the video.
@@andrewrobinsonreviews Other than your Iphone was to old so you had to rely on Christys but forgot?
Great review, thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Is worth buying the QN 800c 8k in 65 inch over the 65 inch s95c?
What is better to take Samsung S90c 77 or Sony A80l 77?
S90c
Thanks! Samsung was on for release but give it to Sony they didn't push out product just to make a show deadline which was a first. Nothing out there to make me jump for a new OLED and I do look!
Appreciate you watching as always Lonnie, and yes, if I were on the market for a new OLED in 2023 I'd wait until ALL the new models were out and on the market before making any final decisions.
Sony is coming to market this year WAY later than they should be and they know that's a problem that they absolutley need to get on top of and correct for next year when their 2024 lineup rolls out, but there is some actual method to their madness there in doing that. Having that extra time to tweak and fine-tune their software and their default settings/levels gives them a big advantage over companies like Samsung that went to market months earlier. It allows them the ability to make certain that their new products are performing at the absolute top of their game. This is part of what allows them to be so incredibly well reviewed by everyone when they finally do come out. Case in point, their new X93L mini-LED that is just now shipping and getting into reviewer's hands this week. People are absolutely blown away by what they are seeing with it. Yes, Sony is late to market this year, but fortunately for them, they CLEARLY made good use of all that extra time. Needless to say, the customers that elected to wait, will unquestionably be very glad they did.
S95c colors aren't fooling people anymore. Now a tv review channel sees less detail. People are seeing less depth and getting flat images.
Are you talking about filmmaker mode or stg? Cuz its defenitely not the TV
Nice review. I trust LG oled for build quality, reliability and firmware updates. I bought a 77 C3, perfect on filmmaker mode and dark room. 120 fps gsync for games. All I need. No S90C for me this year.
Don’t forget HGiG and Dolby Vision support
Love all the graphics on this one. Really informative and interesting. Nice work!
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Looks really nice. My career is as a video producer and your production value was what initially drew me to your channel. It’s great to see you and Kristi always working to make your content better even though you’re already miles ahead of most.
@@JoeGsPizza Thanks so much!
Funny that you just released the review as I was just able to spend half an hour with an unlocked 55" model in store yesterday. I liked the picture, the way it handled light in the room (not being pitch black but a very dark grey), the flat reflections rather than wibbly wobbly reflections of LG panels etc. of the S95B already. I always thought the Samsung was more realistic looking / more plasma-like than what LG produces (as well as everyone using LG panels).
What really impressed me about the S95C was the black frame insertion. At 50 Hz it at least doesn't introduce any artificial smoothing if I don't want it, though the image flickers at a seizure inducing level, so... meh. However using 24p content, regardless of HDR or not, it is bloody brilliant. The flickering is reduced to totally acceptable levels, even in bright scenes, where the S95B struggled. Also, the brightness seems pretty high for BFI. Motion is however improved, watching scenes from LotR looked quite good.
Basically, this is the very first TV since the end of plasma that I consider worth getting. Sadly, the S95B has gotten really affordable, but the S95C is anything but, especially considering the lack of Dolby Vision, which is still a big setback to me (not because HDR10+ sucks, it doesn't, but what is the point of HDR10+ when you don't have any content?) and as you mentioned Tizen, which is still god awful. Sadly, the A95L will be even more expensive (and kind of ugly... those two nostrils Sony always puts on their TVs!), but when you factor in the cost of an Apple TV 4K in order to fix the Samsung...
The S90C could be an alternative, however the smaller sizes use the old panels from the S95B until they run out of them, but most likely even then the performance will be limited to the models with lesser panels. So the only option is the 77", but we don't know if that one is "unlocked" or if they tried to keep all S90C on one level. Samsung being Samsung, I guess.
Oh and one more thing: I believe the black crush is a technical limitation with all OLED screens, just that some deal with issues around near black by crushing blacks, and others by boosting blacks.
Without a proper heat sink, I don't understand what Samsung is thinking. Oh and don't get me going on the omission of Dolby Vision.
yea ... the LG might have a heat sink but I was at best buy the other day and was floored by the amount of heat it puts out into the room - get the air conditioner ready for this summer ....
DV is over rated. How many titles, out of all the titles that exist have DV? And are you watching ALL of them? If 20 shows have it, and you don't genuinely care to watch them, who cares about DV. I have TVs with DV but it is not a selling point. No video games have it, hardly any 4k physical media movies, or streaming shows, not a single broadcast channel or sports. What is the big deal?
If by physical media you mean 4k UHD discs, the vast majority of them are encoded with Dolby Vision.
@@classicgalactica5879 I think they are a dolby hater, a samsung fanboy or an open source fanboy or a bot with how they have commented on every single comment of dolby vision
@@classicgalactica5879 Exactly.
Yes, my S95b Smart TV is broken, no longer plays streamed content after only 7 months. Sony is far superior do not waste your money on Samsung.
You got a dud unlucky.. Try a more expensive product next time if you can