Samson Q9x budget broadcast microphone vs SHURE SM7B & Electrovoice RE20
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- In this week’s episode, we take a look at and listen to the Samson Q9X budget broadcast microphone. This ergonomic podcasting, streaming, and studio microphone is a dynamic mic with a cardioid polar pattern, ample internal shock mounting and wind screening, and an inbuilt mid-boost presence effect. In this video we walk through the Q9X’s feature set, compare it to the SHURE SM7B and ElectroVoice RE20, and discuss how, when, and where you might use each of these three broadcast microphones. Let’s take a closer look and listen!
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Gear used or mentioned in this episode. The links below are Amazon.com, B&H Photo, Sweetwater, DVEStore, Perfect Circuit, Trew Audio or other affiliate links. As an affiliate, I earn from qualifying purchases:
- Samson Q9X broadcast microphone - B&H, Amazon geni.us/rti2U
- SHURE SM7B studio microphone - B&H, Sweetwater, Perfect Circuit, Amazon geni.us/GYU7dHy
- ElectroVoice RE20 broadcast microphone - B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon geni.us/kP1lo
- Table mic stand - B&H, Amazon geni.us/cJUHuw
- Samson Q9U - the USB/XLR version of this microphone with slightly different voicing - Amazon geni.us/0XxkH
- XLR cables (high quality Canare) - B&H geni.us/8y4B
- FETHead in-line amplifier - B&H, Amazon geni.us/zRbtL
- Cloudlifter in-line amplifier - B&H, Sweetwater, Amazon geni.us/AUDx0
- Sound Devices MixPre-3 audio recorder - B&H, Sweetwater, DVE Store, Trew Audio, Amazon geni.us/O8e0
- Aputure P300C LED used as key light - Aputure, B&H, DVE Store geni.us/TFVUy
- Aputure LS 300X used for background light - Aputure, B&H, Amazon geni.us/LBXWV
- Aputure Spotlight Mount - Aputure, B&H, DVE Store. Amazon geni.us/kfAj
- Rosco Gobo creates the pattern on the back wall - B&H geni.us/Yqzw
- Canon C70 cinema camera - B&H geni.us/ABYB
- Canon RF 24-70 f/2.8L lens - B&H, Amazon geni.us/qwsEs
- Schneider Radiant Soft diffusion filter - B&H geni.us/VFScD
- Panasonic GH5 camera - B&H, Amazon geni.us/InspOl
- Panasonic 12-35mm f/2.8 II lens - B&H, Amazon geni.us/gr47
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Index
00:00 Start
00:15 Summary
00:25 Introduction to the Samson Q9x
00:55 Audio samples vs SHURE SM7B and Electrovoice RE20
02:50 Directional pickup, cardioid polar pattern
03:26 Body and yoke
03:31 Shock mount, typing, and stand bump samples
03:58 Grill, foam windshield, and plosive sample
04:38 XLR output
04:46 Dynamic mic needs LOTS of gain
05:10 Mid-boost for intelligibility
05:37 Sibilance - not emphasized
05:57 Interference immunity
06:28 Budget price
06:42 Mid-boost
07:06 Almost no self-noise & practical noise floor sample
08:19 Positioning and BIG broadcast look
08:39 Integrated yoke for position
09:08 Integrated shock mount
09:16 Directional cardioid pickup pattern
09:30 RF immunity
09:59 Can sound muddy for some voices
10:16 Needs 60 - 65dB of gain
11:04 My recommendation - Yes, good option in this price range
12:06 Please buy my courses
You've been very helpful in my audio journey, Curtis. But whenever people ask me how I built up my home studio, I always tell them that it was easier to know it than to explain why I know it.
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With all the specialty choices out there I am most happy with my good old SM58. I think there is a perception that it’s so old a design that there has to be something better, but no, I am constantly amazed at the flexibility of it especially if you do comedy sketches and know how to move around and away from it to place characters in different spaces. So much fun. Thanks as always for the thorough review.
I've come to the same conclusion. For the money the SM58 is pretty tough to beat.
Thanks. I agree, by the way. The SM58 is super useful.
Good to see my favorite critical Canadian stopping by to check out our mutual audio pal, Critical Curtis!
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Thank you Curtis, a very nice review. Also about the 'practical self noise test' a very good explanation. This makes the review more valuable.
Thanks Frans.
God I love the boldness and clarity of the RE20
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The difference is eye opening for me. Wow!
Thanks for the wonderful review of the Samson Q9x.
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How big are the differences between the Q9U and the Q9X? Personally, I think it's convenient with both the USB and XLR connection available on the Q9U.
@@jorgenjohnsson9084 I'm not sure, I haven't worked with the Q9U. Samson tells me that they were voiced differently. That's all I know so far.
The gold standard of audio related gear reviews.
Thanks, Thomas!
A handy review. I have a Samson Q2U that I use for hack stuff - especially portable voiceovers that still need pleasant sound. Samson seems to know how to make good-sounding and rugged mics. On most traveling uses, I use the Q2U's USB signal into a laptop. There's nothing else to haul along; no phantom power, no interface, and not a bunch of cables. Headphones even plug into the back of it!
I'm glad to know of the Q9X as a studio alternative to the $400+ fashion mics.
I definitely agree about the SM58. It's as durable as a hammer and sounds just fine.
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First poster here! Actually this mic sounds good! Kind of a dark, warmish sound. But not sibilant. Great pick up! (hearing more intently) Yeah, this doesn't pick up as much sibilance. I think this is great!
Congrats on posting first! I agree, pretty good sounding mic!
Your reviews are par excellence, thank you. Hope you review the sE Dynacaster soon. I recently replaced my trusty SM7b, and I like sE a lot. Good with a dbx 286s.
Thanks 🙏 thanks for the tip re: the Dynacaster.
Excellent detailed review, Thank you so much Sir :)
You're most welcome!
For the money, its a great option. Fantastic video
Thanks and yes, pretty good. Though I’d probably stick with and SM58 for my voice. 👍
First at all, thanks for every review you make, they are delightful. The price fits my budget to make an upgrade, I would came from a Samson Q2U. I have two kind of podcast: one where I talk with friends and other where I narrate stories I write. Do you think this mic could work for voice over, narration…? Is it worth the jump from the Q2U?. Thanks Curtis, I kind addicted to your context even if I’m not needed to buy a gear, keep it going.
I found the Q9u a few months ago after extensive research and settled on it being a great sound for the price. Biggest downside is that almost ALL vibrations will get picked up if you don't have noise suppression running in some form. I have my mic arm clamped on two layers of padding and my microphone in a shock mount itself and I still get vibration with noise suppression off. But, I still recommend this mic for the sound for the price.
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The Shure and Samson Q9x sound the same. Thank you sir!!!!
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Looks good and specially it sounds good so for the price of one sm7b you could have a set of 4 mics for the podcast. Samson sure is making great budget options.
Surprisingly decent sound and quality. 👍
The Samson Q9x sounds decent enough, especially if you are doing RUclips content. I can certainly tell the differences between that and the SM7B and RE20 - but it would have no problems with it in isolation. It's actually impressive how budget dynamics are starting to close the gap to the next obvious tier upwards.
Agreed. 👍
Chis, with the new Premiere Pro updates, the audio export settings aren't the same and I don't know how to set nomalization, and target loudness with the new versions. Sure, I'd appreciate if you answer this question but can you make a new how to with the new updates? Thanks, Gary
It is still on the export page under effects -> Loudness normalization. Thanks for the suggestion. 👍
I just bought the Samson Q9U so would you say there’s a need to upgrade to the Q9X?
No, they're different mics for different situations. If you're getting good results from the Q9U, I'd just stick with it.
@@curtisjudd thanks Curtis! I’m a new Subscriber and RUclipsr! Love your work.
I'm guessing that the Q9x is the Q9u minus the built-in audio interface. I use a Q9u for work and I'm really pleased with it. I agree it does sound a little muddy but the mid boost and low-cut filters (which the 9x doesn't have) help. For anyone who doesn't already own an audio interface the 9u is a cost effective option.
Thanks Algy! Samson tells me that the Q9x is voice slightly different to the Q9U. I haven't worked with the Q9U to know how big a difference there is, but thought I should mention it.
@@curtisjudd thanks, that's good to know.
Does the focusrite scarlett solo give that 65Db boost? or evo 4? help
The Scarlett Solo supplies 56 dB of gain and the Evo 4 supplies 58 dB. So unfortunately, no on both of those.
@@curtisjudd Which audio interface shall I go for then please suggest me help
@@RevolverOcelotMGS2 Consider the Zoom UAC-232.
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The Q9x would be rather interesting for my voice as I think the tone would help me with authority a ton, but my interface (Air 192) has a really weird gain behavior where I'd need to iron this out really specifically in OBS and Reaper. It's worth looking at.. but I would fear adjusting the volume lol
My experience with the Air 192 is that it has a weird curve that changes REALLY quickly in the last bit of gain range.
@@curtisjudd Yep, that seems to be a thing on most M-Audio interfaces, from what I've consulted with my friend who's got the predecessor to it. I think we call it logarithmic gain? It's annoying to set up, but the preamps are so quiet I don't really mind, haha.
What might be a good shotgun option for sibilant voices?
RODE NTG 5.
re20 ftw ...
For only $320 more 🙂
65 dB: Does a “Zoom H6” qualify for the mentioned 65 dB clean gain with this Samson Q9x microphone? Thanks.
No, the H6 tops out at 55dB of gain. I'd recommend you use a cloud lifter or fethead if you're going to use the Q9x with the H6.
@@curtisjudd Thank you very much for your fast and complete answer!!!!
What is the difference (if any) between the Samson Q9X and the Samson Q9U?
The Q9x only has an XLR output and according to Samson, slightly different voicing. The Q9U is a bit more expensive and has both XLR and USB outputs.
I like the Podmic better in the price range. Just a personal opinion, though.
Thanks for sharing.
Hi, your videos were recommended to me. I am very impressed with your knowledge level! Unfortunately I’m a complete beginner at this and I can’t understand most of what you say.
I want to record my face and voice at the same time as my computer screen for creating courses. The computer mic picks up the keyboard more prominently than my voice. I’m looking for an audio solution that is under (or at most around) $100 and plugs directly into my computer as I don’t have all the other equipment you discuss. A headset would be ok if it was discreet. Anything that doesn’t cover my face, really. I like the sound of the Shure mics you demonstrated and I don’t believe I have a “dark” voice. Is there something you can recommend based on that info?
Hi Lorain, perhaps the Samson Q2U and ad mic stand would do the job for you.
@@curtisjudd Thank you so much for your reply! I’ll look into it!
@@curtisjudd Do you have an affiliate link for mic and stand? I’d be happy to use them.
@@onecoolponie Yes, both in the description of the video here.
Great review. But given the price range of this mic, I think it would have been informative to include the SM58 in the audio comparisons.
Thanks.
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Again, 90% of podcast listener or streamers viewers (that is who this mic is targeted at) would never notice the nuances of each mic since they'd be listening through low quality buds (or over emphasized on the bass frequencies, which if someone likes good for them, but that's not being actually good) or even worse phone' speakers. That said, it doesn't hold a candle with the other two mics once you have a proper set up to listen too. The samson sounds like it has a blanket on top of the capsule (which true, can be mitigated with the presence switch but still). To me in this 250 eu market price tag, the mv7 by shure remains unbeaten (maybe the only one that holds a candle to that mic in the 250ish eu market is the rode nt1, but that's not dynamic and has no usb capabilities).
That said, im enamoured with the re20, truly the best mic (imo) for spoken words. But im not willing to dish out 550 eu for it when im not a pro podcaster or streamer. Im pretty contempt with the mv7. *EDIT* i didn't know it costs so much less there in the us. Here in europe is at least 220 eu. Then for that pricetag, it might actually be worth it as i personally dislike the podmic over brigthness. I do agree the sm58 sounds better, but it doesn't offer usb compability which for some might be the deciding factor.
The Q9x also does NOT include a USB output. That's the Q9U. And yes, I agree, many podcast listeners will not notice a difference.
@@curtisjudd oh wow damn. So is like the mv7x and the standard mv7. I didn't know that, my bad.
@@davidepannone6021 No worries, just wanted to make sure anyone else who saw the comments here are aware that there's a difference. I'm told by Samson that the Q9x is also voiced differently. But I don't have a Q9U to test that.
"Yet you are quite SHURE of the fact."
Kind of unfair to the other mics if you are testing them all with a blatantly Shure-branded sentence!
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tooo big lol
Everyone has an opinion on that, it seems.