Day One Prep: Loadouts & Damage Strats | Crota's End
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- Day 1 prep doc: docs.google.com/document/d/1_...
Me going over the most important weapons (with some roll info) to bring into contest mode Crota's End, as well as some starting points for damage strategies and rotations. Recorded live on stream, so the video quality isn't up to par with my usual analyses, but a lot of people were asking for this. Enjoy!
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:32 Kinetic Exotics
02:02 Kinetic Legendaries
04:54 Energy Exotics
07:37 Energy Legendaries
11:33 Power Exotics
13:39 Power Legendaries
17:25 Damage - Long Range
20:35 Damage - Short Range
22:44 Damage - Backup
26:28 Outro 
Игры
Thanks Aegis! After watching this video, my car got stolen, my house blew up, and my wife filed for divorce. But what does that matter when I now can build my Hunter for Day 1 Crota's End!
All that means is more time to play destiny and more money to spend on destiny
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So are you gonna get worlds first solo flawless?
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Thank you Xemo for giving me Woven Mail, providing an additional 55% DR on top of my 100 resilience before my dad hit me with his belt, it barely hurts now!
You and your team just increased the community's damage by 20%. Thanks for the hard work.
Incredibly well structured video as always. Clear, concise and an absolute treat to follow along with, keep it up and I guarantee you’ll make it big ❤
Edit: Since a lot of people are asking, I'd like to clarify something about BnS vs. Bipod, since I glazed over this a little when recording this live:
Bait and Switch and Bipod have similar total damage numbers, especially when you consider that you are almost definitely not getting all 8 reserve rockets with BnS off on day 1 without using RDMs, which aren't really the best pick on day 1 for most players. While "dump all heavy then dump special" is a legitimate damage strategy, a lot of the reason I make videos like this is is in response to players requesting more reasonable, uniform damage rotations that will leave you with a more even distribution of ammo at the end of every phase. That's another reason why Bipod is more consistent: it syncs up a lot cleaner with weapons with longer firing times like the FTTC IKELOS and The Eremite. As soon as you try to extend a rotation to cover a phase longer than 20s, the worse BnS becomes without dumping upfront. That being said, am I swearing off BnS for this day 1? Absolutely not. Given how the leveling system has changed this season, I'd be a fool not to bring both rolls into this day 1. While I may have been more one-sided in the video, my official suggestion is bringing both rolls into the raid, and seeing which one better suits the encounter at hand. Long phases where sustained fusion/sniper fire is going to be valued? Traversal encounter with large groups of minibosses beforehand? Bipod is your guy. Short, burst phases where you can't dump Bipod as easily within your damage window? Bait and Switch is probably the way to go.
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At 15:17 I've corrected the Bipod total damage number, so it now sits at around 2.22M - I still think Bipod is the safer pick for a day 1 environment IF you are using a more extended rotation which is more appropriate for a 30+s damage phase. If your loadout is capable of dumping at least half your rockets within the first BnS proc, then Bait might be a better idea, but otherwise Bipod is the safer, more consistent pick. Crafting both is a good idea regardless of the end result, and it's easier than ever to have two rockets leveled :)
If we use a rotation like that it would be better to use foetracer as a swap after star eaters right? That way you can run three kinetic surges and still have x4 surges on your rocket and sniper.
This would likely be higher total damage
if BnS has higher total anyway then whats the point of the extended reserves?
How much of a difference in dps would a Braytech Osprey with field prep + bipod be compared to an Apex predator with recon + bipod? And great video!
Do you get more ammo per brick from bipod because of the extra reserves?
Leveled yes, but what about enhanced??
Hey aegis, recently you’ve been blowing up in the destiny community. Keep putting in the hard work that you have the past few months, it will definitely pay off.❤
Thanks!
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@@HashD2 yes
Keep up the good work man, I love what you're doing in the community, im here all the way for you to get you big.
Aegis, you have expanded my destiny knowledge significantly over the last few months. Thank you!!
Thank you so much for all this guides, I finally feel actually prepared for a day 1 raid after like 3 yearls lol. Also thank you so much for the step by step explanation on the rotations, that's something almost no one does.
Just realized you pumped out like 4 vids today. You are the GOAT
Getting back into Destiny after a long hiatus - extremely excited for the return of my favorite raid from the franchise.
This was a timely suggestion from RUclips’s algorithm, great video, subbed :)
Golden video, sir! Props to getting it in one take!
Youre becoming my favorite D2 Ytuber. There just isnt a channel quite like yours in the space. Lots of great info and insights that other channels nvr get into or try and fail to.
i agree he is infact becoming my fav youtuber
Thank you aegis for having a video of more than 2-3 sets of weapons available for the day 1
this is a channel that's going to get very large very fast Aegis prepare yourself
Oof I don’t know if being popular in the destiny community is a good thing
Best Destiny content on RUclips idk why it took this long for someone to make in depth videos like this.
The secret GOAT here is A2TC's health bar damage testing tool. Wipe screen/ingame displayed damage has been notoriously inaccurate for a long time, so having a better way to actually measure things made stuff possible.
This takes away absolutely nothing from Aegis' work, of course! Just want to credit A2TC too.
Aegis bouta blow up bro ur insane. the number crunching, real world experience, and confidence in what your talking abojt make your channel a go-to for new metas and dps. keep going man!
So much knowledge. If you haven’t already, I hope to see you get that Day 1 belt some day.
You are insane, good stuff!
You're in your lane, homie! Keep it up
This helps out so many new lights
All these vids are so helpful
Loving the Aegis top D2 speedrunner to top D2 content creator arc
this guide fixed my overseas family relationship! thanks Aegis!
Best D2 youtuber ever! GOAT
I approve of the Eriana's Vow pick
Very fitting, but imma use xenophage so Omar Agah can get his revenge on Crota.
Some really great info here, I appreciate your videos a lot. Question though, you mentioned Graviton Lance on void hunter, do you think that's a better option than using Le Monarch? Thanks
After the 67% damage buff from last season it's better, especially for big groups of ads
Thanks for the tips!
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Babe wake up, a 4th video from Aegis
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my beautiful pookie bookie sugar plum sweetums bear finally posted his day one loadouts.
Great video lots of usefull information but where does the best gun in the game thunderlord fit in in all of this?
In the vault
My problem with bipod on a contest raid is the fact that after the first phase, as 99% of teams arnt gona 1 phase on contest, the amount of anmo needed to refill reserves fully is too high to be consistent without aeons or cenotaph, which require a higher amount of major enemies and coordination from teammates, whereas bait and switch only requires 7-9 instead of 12-14. So if you dont fully top off ammo for the second dmg phase, your dps is gona fall off a cliff
The main reason I'm so comfortable recommending Bipod here is because D1 CE strongly suggests a huge presence of Cenotaph/Aeon-viable targets in every encounter, on top of Bipod rotations shifting the balance towards your other weapons rather than eating up your rockets upfront unlike BnS.
Very valid points nonetheless!
Pretty much what aegis said, but you also have the ability to have players run something like a sunshot build that drops finders in less than 20 kills. Thinking about the amount of low tier adds expected in the raid, it still should hold fine
@@greenlukesky4615frankly, that would be possible if teammates don't end up killing all the ads so they actually count towards that finder meter.
Like you'd be good to go with 2 ammo makers if you let them kill all the ads and such, but we all know most teams won't do that so I just wish luck upon everyone who does this.
@@arakemi1080 well we’re a very well coordinated team and have used such methods before. And the double special users will likely be on say sniper shotty or sniper trace
@@greenlukesky4615 well in your case, youll probably have plenty of ammo.
but in cases like mine, my team will most likely run builds that arent focused around one thing
When you're using merciless for damage, do you ramp it up to full speed before you proc impetus? Or after? Or does it depend on how much ammo you have to work with
Impetus first
Great videos tysm
In 6 man no in 3 man and lower maybe
@@TheAegisRelic Thank you!
my favorite endgame youtuber !
Nice video! Do you have any opinions in regards to using techeun force or loaded question in certain mid-range damage rotations? I’ve been testing out a few smog rotations myself and these two have been synergizing well with Malf/Iza and Apex
Techeun fine but doesn't surge match
Hey man thanks for making this, do you also recommend these weapons for overall any activity?
If they're good enough for day 1 they're certainly good enough for anything else haha
Great video! What spreadsheet is that you have for boss dps and could you post the link for it?
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_5wtBjRYHHxuF4oJKDb_iOGZs-wTkzB6RYbnyNLbuz4/edit#gid=0
Touch of Malice is also something to consider, as it might be one of the best primary weapons for bridge encounter.
I think touch will be good for dps on day one in a well but just for ad clear I dont think so. Mostly because day ones enemies hit hard and dying is the worst thing you can do damage will be slow no matter what however if your team can stay alive then that's whats most important
I wouldn't say it's noteworthy for anything outside of backup DPS
@@TheAegisRelicand I would say outbreak basically defines that role anyways if you’re going to use primary dps as a backup
@@mutantraze3681ToM is better after the buff and it also doesn’t depend on your whole team using it like Outbreak
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first of all, amazing video, really good stuff, question: with your eremite roll which mod would you use, backup mag to maximize envious assasin at max reserves w 3x solar reserves at 20? or boss spec but having a maxed envious at 18 instead of 20?
Can do either tbh the likelihood of you dumping 18 in a row is really low and you can always Backup swap
Gonna be an odd ask but whats your opinion on using eyes of tomorrow for ad clear in encounters such as abyss with the changes allowing it to essentially never run out of ammo if used properly
Honestly not a bad pick
Noice
@@TheAegisRelic i dont have a recon bns or recon bipod apex yet cause i took a big break and just came back, all i have is slideways bns with impact. Should i run slideways if im comfortable with that swap, or should i just use an autoloading cluster hezen vengeance since i was looking at the dps spreadsheet and it doesnt seem too bad
Very nice breakdown. What do you suggest for the Ghorn user instead of Izanagi? Legendary sniper/fusion?
Either fusions or snipers yeah
Re: Bipod rockets. You might want to check out the new seasonal strand one (Semiotician). It can roll/craft with bipod and field prep, which pairs well with its origin trait that boosts reload speed (not much, but it helps). You can reload this bad boy very quickly and just spam rockets.
Semio has a worse archetype and only gains +1 over max reserves Bipod Apex with a worse affinity
Thanks for guide 😎
With your long damage set up i was wondering if the dragonshadow izi sniper apex rotation is better? I was practicing that rotation but i could not get my dodge back for the 3 rocket part. How did you get your dodge back in time and could i replace the sniper with eremite?
You need Benevolence/Singeing/Torches + knife throw
Nice video! One question, I don’t have Ikelos Sniper - what can i use in damage rotation instead that is currently obtainable?
Eremite
would felwinters lie be a good alternative option to mindbenders if you dont have a surplus vorpal roll or is the low handling and full choke reduction not worth? great video by the way
Yeah just no Assault
Great Video! Very informative for covering all options. Is there any way we can get our hands on that dps spreadsheet?
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_5wtBjRYHHxuF4oJKDb_iOGZs-wTkzB6RYbnyNLbuz4/edit#gid=0
Thank you!
are you going to do a retroperspective after day 1 on what went as expected or what went wrong? Would love to see it
Sure!
Parasite is an amazing heavy for prio target killing. Brought it into Day 1 VoW and it one shot glyphkeepers in challenge mode. Can't recommend it enough on priority target fights.
For the long range damage rotation, how would a Clown/Firing line Distant Tumulus compare to the Ikelos SR roll that you suggested?
Wondering same thing. I have same roll distant or a seraph round tripple tap high impact reserves ikelos
Would also be fine, just leaves you with less ammo in your energy slot when you swap back to something like Forbearance
Question, is the izzy, sniper, rocket combo worth it considering that you will most likely be swapping from a different weapon that u were using before boss phase leading to less ammo?
Yeah
For those, like myself, who prefer just using a single special and heavy rotation rather than double special and heavy rotation, what would be best?
Izanagi + rocket bipod/bns?
That's definitely an option yeah
Hey Aegis! What do you think of Syntho-strand titan after getting banner of command. Ive been messing around with it and feel it has really good survivability and damage output. I just don't know how it compares to hammers
Surprisingly decent but pales in comparison to Sunbreaker in a day 1 env
Does anyone know how to get the ikelos sniper that was shown?
It's farmable from Seraph atm I think
Would it be worth it to bring LFRs? I have a crafted Apex (kalli go brrr) but i feel like Deathsinger standing still would probably be easy to crit with them
I don't think so
Since Bungie said that reserve mods are going to be disable would you recommend the bipod roll over the b&s more then before?
Bipod has a slightly bigger edge but I'd still bring both (their total damage is pretty much exactly equal again)
Do the high impact fusions need ionized to hold their entire reserves in the mag? Is it just so you can consistently get everything in the mag?
Yeah
The goat
would it be better or worse to instead use cold comfort with bait/envious, kill the 7 ads needed to load 5 rounds in the mag. procc bait with izi a fusion then dump the 5 rockets + dodge reload for the 6th? especially since comfort benefits from an extra rocket? or would this slow dmg to a crawl too much in a longer dmg phase after the dump?
Envious CC is good but I don't think it's super applicable for Day 1
Babe wake up, we missed the notification for a fourth Aegis video
Thank you!
do you think gally will be worth it in a team setting for dps day 1? i heard it got stealth nerfed but haven’t seen any numbers on it
Yes it is in this video and all of my other recent videos
In the damage spreadsheet originally you recommended lightweight shotguns over aggressive. Why the change here? Is it total damage v dps?
On day 1 you're prioritizing total > raw DPS and lightweights have dogshit total
I have a question or two about loadouts/damage phases. Lets say that I am the arc hunter and I've been running the 3 weapons you've mentioned for your hunter day 1 video. Is it better to stick with tractor as the heavy and just refresh occasonally while doing special dps or is tractoring a boss then switching to a star-eaters loadout with Izzy, Ikeos sr3 and apex better/ more consistent dps?
Really depends on your team's ammo situation, in an optimal scenario you're applying Tractor, swapping loadout, using Shoot to Loot to get heavy, then doing damage while refreshing Rapid-Fire Ranger, but honestly sticking to Tractor and a sniper or fusion is a much safer choice
@@TheAegisRelic Thanks for the really quick answer! Your videos have been a huge help in getting my classes ready for day 1.
Hey, great video! May I ask what would be your go to damage rotation for the Gjallahorn user? and which class would be the most optimal to run Gjally with?
If you're doing sniper I'd do 2 Supremacy > 4 IKELOS > 1 Gjally > dash repeat
I'd say either Nightstalker or Dawnblade
@@TheAegisRelic Thanks for the taking the time to make these videos and to reply (:
Hey Aegis, you've probably answered this before but I wanted to know what mods you would equip on your loadouts, like reserves vs resistance, more scavenger mods vs surges, or ammo finder/scout, and if that would make a primary ever worth using? I'm also curious whether weapon kills have higher ammo drop rates vs ability kill, it's just something I feel might be true but don't know. The thing I'm most concerned about is ammo, since bosses like Oryx and Daughters had no finisher targets to generate heavy off of for day one. Do you think this might happen again?
I would have a reserves + scavs loadout, a finisher loadout, a mechanics loadout, a damage loadout, and maybe a final stand loadout. If you're planning on starting with double special, keeping a primary in your back pocket isn't a bad idea either.
@@TheAegisRelic Thanks for answering, I also was wondering about bipod. After some gameplay, I noticed(I think) it gets 5 rockets with 2 reserve+scavenger, but with BaS, and 2 reserve, you get 5 rockets per brick too. Doesn't this make BaS more ammo efficient?
nvm just tested, got 3 shots per brick on BaS, I think the bipod ammo bug got fixed btw? I tried 3 reserve bipod rocket switching to leviathan's and only got 7 shots.
Does anyone know if noble rounds have a slight AoE or do you have to hit each person individually, I've been trying to figure out if just throwing the rounds at the floor would better than actually aiming at people when it comes to giving out the buffs
No AoE
@@TheAegisRelic TYSM!
So, for the long range extended damage rotation, why Ikelos over Distant Tumulus? Wouldn't Tumulus fulfill the same role (especially with manual reloads) but with slightly higher dps? Feels unrealistic that you are going to be using the full reserves to the point where ammo becomes a concern with your secondary sniper
FTTC nearly doubles total reserves > good conversion for after DPS
Do you think it's worthwhile to craft a second apex for bipod so that I can keep my b&s roll? Or is bipod almost always better now?
Yeah definitely have both I have like 5 Apexes
have you considered foetracer as opposed to lucky pants on hunters? since if you run solar specifically you get a higher surge bonus for apex and ikelos, plus you are free to run triple kinetic for izzy. I dont have the mental capacity to work out the numbers but the only extra req is throwing a grenade or melee before you fire off apex
Yeah it's something I'm aware of, Gunslinger is just not my default recommendation for hunters on day 1
In regards to kinetic legendaries, is there a reason you listed pardon our dust and not ignition code seeing as it rolls with blinding nades and slideshot
Ignition fine as well
Do you have an opinion on Divinity rocket swapping for LFG scenarios? It's a lower % than Tractor (though nothing preventing someone else from also using a Tractor/30% as well maybe?); you can still provide a crit bubble for utility (more or less useful, depending on the weapon used)-and notably, unlike Tractor, you can swap back and forth with an ALH rocket (with something like Wolfpack, I assume this is decent damage?) and keep full uptime on the debuff.
Only asking because I haven't seen it on any proper charts, or discussed much at all. Curious if there was a memo about the strategy I missed! 😅
Div swapping hasn't been viable for over a year, 15% debuff killed it completely and hotswap nerf made it so bubble goes down
I looked into this last season and I can't find a realistic situation where you can stack enough handling that you don't lose div bubble uptime
I don’t have an ikelos SR, but I have a twilight oath with vorpal.
Wouldn’t vorpal in this situation be better than focused fury? Vorpal 15% dmg buff, where focused fury is 20% on 1/2 the mag
Both guns are rapid fire frame solar energy snipers with 55 impact damage.
No FTTC, and Fury is active for every shot after the first 3 if you're using Flared
I know you went over it but for ikelos sg what would be the roll you want? I know you said cascade point/surrounded but one thing I just don’t know is the magazine to use for it because it doesn’t come with assault mag.
Tac is fine
@@TheAegisRelicthank you ❤
At 9:45 you mention that Envious+Controlled is the best fusion total damage for day 1, but you spreadsheet says that Controlled only beats out Reservoir in DPS2. Is DPS2 the reason to go for Controlled here or is there something else I am missing?
After your mag dips below full Reservoir drops down to 0% as a perk, but it's an acceptable option up until then
Can't get my clan to run vow n won't lfg it could explosive personality be a good enough replacement for forbearance or fill that slot with something else ?
It's worse but it's usable
If we dont have a Ikelos SR with fftc + ff, what are some substitutes for it in the izi bipod rocket rotation
Eremite
The rocket damage rotation that you recommend requires someone running gjallarhorn right?
And to confirm, the gjallarhorn player runs:
Supremacy w/ rewind rounds & enhanced kinetic tremors
Ikelos SR w/ FTTC & focused fury
and the cycle is:
- 1 gjally shot
- 2 supremacy shots
- 4 ikelos shots and reload
Question: should we run enhanced focused fury on the Ikelos SR?
Yes that is correct and no you don't need to but you can
any replacement options if I dont have ikelos sniper? ty ♥
You can use The Eremite (3 shots instead of 8 IKELOS)
Can you please quickly explain how I can preserve as much special ammo as possible when switching loadouts? Like when swapping to Fourth Horseman when heavy is empty.
You just swap special weapons, that's all, most of it is conserved
This guy KNOWS!
Quick question:
If I’m matching surges with apex, would it be better to run the eremite or cartesian for pure damage? My roll has lead from gold on cartesian, so that’s why I’m leaning towards it. But if eremite has more damage / better for rotations, then I may use that!
What would you recommend?
Eremite
@@TheAegisRelic cool cool, thanks man!
Ur the man
Would distant tumulus with clown + fl be just as good as ikelos sr for the long range damage setup? They both have 20% dmg perks but fl affects the 3 first shots as well. Is it because DT is way less accessible as it is a world drop and ikelos sr is craftable?
Yeah fine just lower reserves
@@TheAegisRelic ok thanks 👍
Acacia's dejection is quite good to run on solar with incandescent. It helps keep the restorationx2 buff up when enemies are not close enough for incinerator snap.
If not on solar, acacia is definitely much weaker and not worth bringing.
Acasia is definitely situational I just dislike its lack of utility
How do you manage double special now with the nerf to it, I haven’t extensively tried it this season, only on the starting mission and it felt ass with how little heavy I was getting but could of been rng
Playing smartly + abusing Special Finisher
for succession, why do you use reconstruction/recombination instead of reconstruction/vorpal? any specific reason? I haven't seen anybody else using that roll
That's just my roll I use for specific stuff, most people should run Recon Vorpal
@@TheAegisRelic makes sense! I appreciate the response!
What would you run on an Arc Hunter with Tractor? You mentioned before that with Tractor having it's duration boosted Rapid-Fire ranger by 25 seconds, you could just dump trace ammo into a bosses head afterwards and theoretically just swap to a different heavy. If you do that you lose a lot of heavy though, when I swapped from Tractor with 19 ammo (double reserves -1 for the debuff application), I only got 6 rockets with a Bipod Apex. Is it even worth swapping at that point if you're only getting half the default reserves for Bipod Apex?
Apparently it only refreshes Tractor's duration, meaning it goes back up to 10, but you can still proc it indefinitely just by shooting a boss in the head. Whether or not you swap is up to you, it's really just a suggestion to try :P
Love you aegis
I feel like Wish-Ender is a little underrated. Even when under-leveled it hits like a truck and one-shots most red bars, does great solo DPS for a primary ammo weapon, and works ok against barrier champs. With kinetic siphon and a bunch of adds, it’s an orb printing machine. And it works at range and supports peek-shooting. At close range you can hip fire.
What are some good alternatives for Ikelos SR? I didn’t play much that season and it’s the only Ikelos gun I don’t have pattern😢
Eremite
Is there a link to the damage spreadsheet anywhere?
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_5wtBjRYHHxuF4oJKDb_iOGZs-wTkzB6RYbnyNLbuz4/edit#gid=0
so would envious - bait and switch be any good on cold comfort ?
Yes, but not for day 1
It all depends on how crota is handled (I’m also hoping they change the deathsingers encounter to a shuro chi like encounter but it’s highly unlikely). If we get a redux similar to oryx where damage matters then exactly that damage will matter but as is crota is mostly about survival and ad density. My current guess is the sword will be used to bring down his shields basically flipping his damage mechanic around (sword to stun and weaps to damage). The only place where damage would matter would be the oversoul if again that mechanic returns (even then I think stuff like izi rocket will more then get the job done or star eater scaled deadshot)
Agreed!
I really hope crota is still sword damage not weapon damage. If he’s not sword damage he’s gonna get absolutely dunked on by melee builds
@@tank_dempsey bruh melee build? You doing a 8 phase? There’s no shot that they don’t buff the fuck outta his health. My guess is 15 mil minimum on his health if it’s weapons damage. Also if it is still sword damage the new strand Titan aspect with stronghold bout to go stupid add a tractor cannon and we may see some crazy stuff
@@xdifficultviper9916 strongholds would do absolutely nothing with the relic sword Lmao. You can’t block with crotas sword. And I’m just saying do you really want a caretaker situation again
@@tank_dempseyare we sure that the current moon sword isn’t going to be the one in crota? Because yes in d1 guarding wasn’t a thing but when shadowkeep brought back the sword it has a guard feature which is part of the dungeon entrance mechanic. And wym by another caretaker moment? The damage is entirely different and caretaker has like iirc 24mil or something close to it putting him at the tankiest boss in the game, for reference rhulk I believe is somewhere around 18 and oryx around 20 the only other raid boss who comes close is golg but between the very long phases and the bomb it feels a lot less
Hey Aegis, what do you think of the new strand rocket Semiotician? Is there any merit to field prep bipod for the extra reserves or is anything without reconstruction not worth considering?
Also, the Until it’s Return has trench and cascade like Ikelos but ALSO has auto-loading, it’s not solar but maybe it’s worth trying
auto-loading is the most important part of getting a damage rotation going which rockets excel at, and field prep+bipod is kind of redundant because it hits ammo reserve max and you can already do that with just 1 of those options + reserves mod swaps. Semiotican is high-impact so it has lower damage than adaptive and aggressive rockets anyways, and strand surge only matches Until Its Return and Nox Perennial V which aren't better than their energy slot counterparts - Eremite, Ikelos SR and SG, and Sojourner's which match Apex Predator on solar surge. Furthermore, strand special weapons mean you aren't using a kinetic special weapon which does 15% extra damage for free; solar/arc/void weapons don't have that opportunity cost, plus there's no energy slot Izanagi's Burden for swap rotations. TLDR No auto-loading, lower base damage rocket, worse surge matching.
precision frames -10% damage high impact frames regular damage adaptive and aggressive frames have +10% damage. because semiotician is high impact it is always 10% weaker than smth like hothead apex or coldcomfort
Extra reserves aren't useful when your frame has an intrinsic -10% relative to adaptive/aggressives and FP only takes you to 15, which is 1 higher than max reserves Bipod on Apex WITH a reload perk for damage
Makes sense thanks for the insight
Aggressives have more total than slugs? And what's the best kinetic option if someone's already using conditional finality (isn't that diminishing returns or ignorable)
Yeah a lot more, also running more than one Conditional is still fine (not damage loss vs. another agg)
Also want to add that shields will be in this day one. So arc and solar weapons for these hive enemies are gonna be highly prioritized.
Shields aren't ever really an issue in the current sandbox
Hello Aegis
The new season of the witch rocket, which has field prep and bipod, is it good option for dps
No it's a high-impact and FP only provides +1 over max reserves Apex
@@TheAegisRelic noted thanks for the info 🙏
Could you feasibly replace mindbenders with felwinters lie since they have the same perk combo or would it not have enough handling? I actually deleted all my mindbenders.
Yeah just no assault mag
Ty for this idea