Don't let the episode fool you. The Goa'uld could never have built something like this. They had the technology and reasons to do it but never did or we would have seen it. Rather, this is something the Ancients would have designed and built using Goa'uld technology to the maximum of its potential. And its freaking terrifying to behold.
Reverse Ancients and Goa'uld in that second to last sentence. 99% of Goa'uld Interplanetary Technology was from Parasitizing Aliens and Their Machines... Most were Boneless Fish that Highjacked the Nervous Systems of Bipedal Creatures
@@KebaRPG there was a episode that actually explains that the Goa'uld never invented anything they just stole and took credit for it. So even though Goa'uld are older then humans they lack imagination. Humans were able to create and adapt and become smarter than Goa'uld. Tollen are a example of how humans were able to create tech that surpasses them with the exception of Ba'al. He was able to adapt quickly even anubis became smarter only because he tricked a ancient and was able to have access to ancient tech only through parasitic means.
Daniel in this episode was smarter than all the system lords put together. Give the Tau'ri all the technology they need and then turn it against them once they built it.
@@Ragitsu I guess, because they already have big ships and they didn't really care much about any one planet in particular. Also Daniel's design might be a unique combination of different techs derived from knowledge that is normally scattered among the Goa'Uld population and only exists together in Harsesis.
@@Ragitsu From the Snakeheads? Easy. Most of them are too lazy. Across the Entire series, we Only ever see a handful that Use that genetic knowledge, and Only two (Ba'al and Nirrti) that Both used it And had ambition. (Anubis doesn't count because Most of his knowledge was taken from the Ancients directly). The main Goa'uld inventor we see, Nerus (Himself an agent of Ba'al) was never really portrayed as ambitious, outside of a lazy grab at Ascension.
Daniel becomes a giant walking red flag this whole episode after being affected and not only do they not check him out properly they build the strongest weapon known to man and put him in sole control.
Ok... this is *so* weird for me right now... I just read the plot of this episode, and I remember the beginning about child form 2 Goa'uld hosts on Abydos, *AND* I remember the ending about him ascending and going through the gate... But I completely forgot about whole dream sequence that was majority of this episode.
Because it was actually quite depressing to watch. My mind wiped it out until I heard Daniel talk about keeping the Touchra (good snakes) out of the plan and then it all came rushing back
i always assumed it was some thing like this. think about it. once orbital internet communication is mainstream hard lines will soon die off. with a monopoly over that industry Elon could shut down world communication at the flick of a switch. meanwhile he activates the control program he's secretly installed in anyone using his neuralink technology. next thing you know he has his own cyborg army. at the same time motorways are clogged and transportation comes to a standstill as vehicles using the tesla self driving software deliberatly cause chaos. as the roads clog any coordinated response by military elements is brought to a crawl. with an elaborate network of tunnels dug by the boring company and almost full control of access to space, movement's not a problem for Musks forces. i predict he'll have full control within a week or two at most of triggering the plan.
Back when $80 billion seemed like an absurd expenditure. iirc this was actually a few years after (one of the times) the Pentagon misplaced over $3 trillion, though. Not to mention the way this episode portrays the idea of treating Russia as an adversary.
This episode doesn't make much sense. If Gou'ald have all the knowledge to make Ancient-level tech they why don't any of them use it? (Barring Anubis, and that's later.)
Also likely lake of ingenuity. Only 2 System lords at the time we're really pushing technological advances, but one was imprisoned and the other was on the run.
Perhaps they do not have ancients level knowledge.this whole scenario is basically a lesson by oma desala to warn Daniel what would happen if humanity got more knowledge than it was ready for.so perhaps she revealed all the knowledge of the ancients to him as well to ensure it sunk in
The Goa'uld *don't* have this knowledge or tech. It's not real. It's all part of Daniel's dream, given to him by an ascended being. There are 2 possibilities. 1) It's Ancient knowledge, and Shifu just made Daniel think it was Goa'uld. Or 2) Shifu just made it all up, the technology is entirely fictional, and wouldn't work in the real world. The point of the thing was to teach Daniel a lesson, not to give an accurate technology lesson.
Probably about methodology. Even with all the knowledge in his head, Daniel still struggled with some understanding and clarification. It took time to sort it all out and he still needed to have the drive and motivation. He had a motivation to protect Earth from the Goa'uld. But the Goa'uld mental structure is completely different; they viewed themselves and the universe in a completely different context both from a biological standpoint as well as being twisted by repeated use of the Sarcophagus technology. For example, the Jaffa staff weapons, while technologically superior, were inferior from a practical standpoint compared to Earth military weaponry. They weren't designed to be effective military weapons; they were designed with LARP in mind. If the Goa'uld *had* used their knowledge to design super effective weaponry, they'd all be super paranoid that it would A) fall into the hands of some other system lord, or B) one of their own underlings would use it to rise up and overthrow them. So they deliberately held themselves back because it was all part of the image they were collectively keeping up. And we've even seen this in our own Earth history. For example, the Roman Empire deliberately held back technological developments and favored slave labor because they feared an uprising by those unemployed by labor saving devices. Daniel, by rushing the tech tree, neglected the social and moral aspects of development in favor of a straight science/military win.
I never liked this episode. Power only corrupts selfish people. When Daniel ascended, he had far more power, and always tried to use it to help others.
I always considered Daniel weak. although he was smart in the book way, a lot of his actions caused more trouble for them in the long run. his personality caused the team soo many missed chances at winning battles, retaining information, and being successful. then the creators would in turn, make him out be a super genius and discover some amazing new item, to over shadow all his weak crap he pulled before hand. Jack always seems to have better answers and policies in the the end. The only thing i liked about him, was is initial question to any possible new race, was " can we help or what do you need from us " type of question to keep the peace. other than that, he was more of a pain in the ass. season 5 and Season 7 i think were the best seasons. He was the blame for the Ori . He was the blame for Nubas and Ba'all as well. his quest to be an Ancient was a downfall and showed his personal greed. to be clear, I love this show, and all tings about it. but, my opinion of the character Dr Jackson.. that would grate on my nerves..
He was naive especially early on, that's for sure. That said, he also had zero hesitation jumping in to save that planet from that weapon of mass destruction at the cost of his own life. That's not weakness of spirit. What's more, he literally gave up his everlasting life being an ascended being, twice, just to help humanity. Dude was always ready to make the ultimate sacrifice for others and overall just worked tirelessly over the 10 seasons for the SGC.
We can all have different opinions just like my favorite characters were Lucius, Urgo, Martin Floyd, all-knowing carter,, Felger, Jaffa, Kinsey, Pete Shanahan, Knythia mckay
Sam plays advocate for the Tok'ra; but in hindsight, they were a terrible ally. Maybe twice they lent a scout ship. Otherwise, they mostly used Earth as guinea pigs. Sam's opinion is frankly biased; and the Russians were more of a pain in the ass than an asset.
@@Ragitsu Yeah; but my point is that the SGC helped them far more than they did. They helped with those invisible quadrupeds; but every reality where Earth is invaded, they do nothing. Bra'tac came to help stop Apophis' 1st invasion attempt. He and the Jaffa rebels were far more helpful. Meanwhile, the SGC helped them evacuate several bases. Eventually setting them up with the Jaffa rebels, where the SGC handled all the supplies. The SGC exposed a traitor and brainwashed assassin. The Tok'ra tested those arm bands on SG1; and would show up if the SGC found anything interesting. SG1 helped them blow up a star, get into a meeting of the System Lords, and sabotage Anubis' flagship. The Tok'ra kept tech from Earth. They likely would not want the satellites to be made because "you are not ready for it." Daniel's position was understandable is all I really meant here.
@@zacharysheetz3701 The Tok'ra rescued Jack and Teal'c when they were stuck in that Death Glider; the Tok'ra also rescued SG-1 after they saved Earth from Anubis' asteroid ploy. The Tok'ra saved the Pangarans from their tretonin dependency.
@@Ragitsu Those first two were the scout ship stuff I was talking about. As for the Pangarans, my point wasn't that they never helped anyone. My point was and is that they weren't the most helpful allies. In the scene that started this, Sam talks about how the Tok'ra could help them with the satellites. I doubt they would have because they never helped with defense and weapons technology. Examples being the X-302s and Daedalus. Actually, they did coop on the anti-anubis-warrior weapon. In universe, I would not expect much help from them. This being more of a realization after binging the whole series a few years back. When I watched the show during the original airing, I thought they were more helpful. In review, not so much. However, they were far more helpful than the Nox; and the system lords were more helpful than the Tollen. The best allies were the Asgard and the Jaffa Rebels.
Why would you hate it then? Shouldn't you be glad, that it is now highlighted for all to see that power corrupts the ego. It gladens me, because it's true and should be know. Like history... People trying to erase history like Hitler because they have no accountability of their feelings.. deleting history would serve to cause it again. This episode is education of emotional reality
Back when $80 billion seemed like an absurd expenditure. iirc this was actually a few years after (one of the times) the Pentagon misplaced over $3 trillion, though. Not to mention the way this episode portrays the idea of treating Russia as an adversary.
Daniel's personal requirements: an electric swivel chair, an office with moody lighting, a monocle, and a white cat to menacingly stroke
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What about sharks with laser beams?
Don't forget the Nehru jacket and cigarette holder.
Don't let the episode fool you. The Goa'uld could never have built something like this. They had the technology and reasons to do it but never did or we would have seen it. Rather, this is something the Ancients would have designed and built using Goa'uld technology to the maximum of its potential. And its freaking terrifying to behold.
Except the Goa'uld seemed to lack imagination. Humans seem to be more on the ancient level when it comes to imagination. With the exception of Ba'al.
i thought the ancients where just time traveling humans
Reverse Ancients and Goa'uld in that second to last sentence. 99% of Goa'uld Interplanetary Technology was from Parasitizing Aliens and Their Machines... Most were Boneless Fish that Highjacked the Nervous Systems of Bipedal Creatures
@@KebaRPG there was a episode that actually explains that the Goa'uld never invented anything they just stole and took credit for it. So even though Goa'uld are older then humans they lack imagination. Humans were able to create and adapt and become smarter than Goa'uld. Tollen are a example of how humans were able to create tech that surpasses them with the exception of Ba'al. He was able to adapt quickly even anubis became smarter only because he tricked a ancient and was able to have access to ancient tech only through parasitic means.
@@MrBennieagray The last line in your statement was exactly what I was trying to intend.
Loved this episode. It just goes to show how anyone can be corrupted.
Given the power, power corrupts.
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Two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.
I love how they have him move into Seth's cult compound just to emphasize that he's becoming more Goa'uld like.
Dang!! I didn't notice that!
Daniel in this episode was smarter than all the system lords put together. Give the Tau'ri all the technology they need and then turn it against them once they built it.
I wonder why Stargate Command never encountered those planetary point-defense weapons.
@@Ragitsu I guess, because they already have big ships and they didn't really care much about any one planet in particular. Also Daniel's design might be a unique combination of different techs derived from knowledge that is normally scattered among the Goa'Uld population and only exists together in Harsesis.
@@TheAgamemnon911 The idea of each lineage of Goa'uld possessing their own secrets tucked away in their respective genetic memories is intriguing.
@@Ragitsu It's possible they don't exist. Remember that this episode is just a vision inside Daniel's Head created by Harsesis.
@@Ragitsu From the Snakeheads?
Easy.
Most of them are too lazy.
Across the Entire series, we Only ever see a handful that Use that genetic knowledge, and Only two (Ba'al and Nirrti) that Both used it And had ambition. (Anubis doesn't count because Most of his knowledge was taken from the Ancients directly).
The main Goa'uld inventor we see, Nerus (Himself an agent of Ba'al) was never really portrayed as ambitious, outside of a lazy grab at Ascension.
now that you said that, Michael Shanks would be a pretty damn good Reed Richards.
Possibly one of the most frightening episodes.
A good man going bad...yes.
Daniel becomes a giant walking red flag this whole episode after being affected and not only do they not check him out properly they build the strongest weapon known to man and put him in sole control.
Ok... this is *so* weird for me right now... I just read the plot of this episode, and I remember the beginning about child form 2 Goa'uld hosts on Abydos, *AND* I remember the ending about him ascending and going through the gate... But I completely forgot about whole dream sequence that was majority of this episode.
Because it was actually quite depressing to watch. My mind wiped it out until I heard Daniel talk about keeping the Touchra (good snakes) out of the plan and then it all came rushing back
Dr. Jackson acted like Bill Gates on the ultimate nerd power-trip in this episode.
For those trying to talk of if the Goa’uld have this tech or not, this is just a vision trying to teach him a lesson, it doesnt have to be accurate.
Wouldn't that be hilarious if Starlink was a cover for these satellites?
Ha! Nice ☺️
i always assumed it was some thing like this. think about it. once orbital internet communication is mainstream hard lines will soon die off. with a monopoly over that industry Elon could shut down world communication at the flick of a switch. meanwhile he activates the control program he's secretly installed in anyone using his neuralink technology. next thing you know he has his own cyborg army.
at the same time motorways are clogged and transportation comes to a standstill as vehicles using the tesla self driving software deliberatly cause chaos. as the roads clog any coordinated response by military elements is brought to a crawl. with an elaborate network of tunnels dug by the boring company and almost full control of access to space, movement's not a problem for Musks forces. i predict he'll have full control within a week or two at most of triggering the plan.
@@TheFloorface
You’ve seen way too many cheap D movies about the end of the world!🤣
@@TheFloorface you sir almost have a plot for a film
@@TheFloorface so musk is going to execute order 66?
Back when $80 billion seemed like an absurd expenditure. iirc this was actually a few years after (one of the times) the Pentagon misplaced over $3 trillion, though.
Not to mention the way this episode portrays the idea of treating Russia as an adversary.
He got his hair cut shorter so he must be evil
Like a scalpel.
A network of satellites. Sound familiar? Starlink? THE GATE IS REAL!
We've had network of sattelites for decades. starlink is nothing new :D
I don’t remember this one...
This episode doesn't make much sense. If Gou'ald have all the knowledge to make Ancient-level tech they why don't any of them use it? (Barring Anubis, and that's later.)
scattering of usable samples and how paranoid/petty System Lords can be
Also likely lake of ingenuity. Only 2 System lords at the time we're really pushing technological advances, but one was imprisoned and the other was on the run.
Perhaps they do not have ancients level knowledge.this whole scenario is basically a lesson by oma desala to warn Daniel what would happen if humanity got more knowledge than it was ready for.so perhaps she revealed all the knowledge of the ancients to him as well to ensure it sunk in
The Goa'uld *don't* have this knowledge or tech. It's not real. It's all part of Daniel's dream, given to him by an ascended being. There are 2 possibilities. 1) It's Ancient knowledge, and Shifu just made Daniel think it was Goa'uld. Or 2) Shifu just made it all up, the technology is entirely fictional, and wouldn't work in the real world. The point of the thing was to teach Daniel a lesson, not to give an accurate technology lesson.
Probably about methodology. Even with all the knowledge in his head, Daniel still struggled with some understanding and clarification. It took time to sort it all out and he still needed to have the drive and motivation. He had a motivation to protect Earth from the Goa'uld. But the Goa'uld mental structure is completely different; they viewed themselves and the universe in a completely different context both from a biological standpoint as well as being twisted by repeated use of the Sarcophagus technology. For example, the Jaffa staff weapons, while technologically superior, were inferior from a practical standpoint compared to Earth military weaponry. They weren't designed to be effective military weapons; they were designed with LARP in mind. If the Goa'uld *had* used their knowledge to design super effective weaponry, they'd all be super paranoid that it would A) fall into the hands of some other system lord, or B) one of their own underlings would use it to rise up and overthrow them. So they deliberately held themselves back because it was all part of the image they were collectively keeping up. And we've even seen this in our own Earth history. For example, the Roman Empire deliberately held back technological developments and favored slave labor because they feared an uprising by those unemployed by labor saving devices. Daniel, by rushing the tech tree, neglected the social and moral aspects of development in favor of a straight science/military win.
Episode?
Season 4, "Absolute Power".
I never liked this episode. Power only corrupts selfish people. When Daniel ascended, he had far more power, and always tried to use it to help others.
My understanding? That advanced knowledge was intertwined with Goa'uld megalomania.
I always considered Daniel weak. although he was smart in the book way, a lot of his actions caused more trouble for them in the long run. his personality caused the team soo many missed chances at winning battles, retaining information, and being successful. then the creators would in turn, make him out be a super genius and discover some amazing new item, to over shadow all his weak crap he pulled before hand. Jack always seems to have better answers and policies in the the end. The only thing i liked about him, was is initial question to any possible new race, was " can we help or what do you need from us " type of question to keep the peace. other than that, he was more of a pain in the ass. season 5 and Season 7 i think were the best seasons. He was the blame for the Ori . He was the blame for Nubas and Ba'all as well. his quest to be an Ancient was a downfall and showed his personal greed. to be clear, I love this show, and all tings about it. but, my opinion of the character Dr Jackson.. that would grate on my nerves..
He was naive especially early on, that's for sure. That said, he also had zero hesitation jumping in to save that planet from that weapon of mass destruction at the cost of his own life. That's not weakness of spirit. What's more, he literally gave up his everlasting life being an ascended being, twice, just to help humanity. Dude was always ready to make the ultimate sacrifice for others and overall just worked tirelessly over the 10 seasons for the SGC.
You might have watched the wrong show, lol
We can all have different opinions just like my favorite characters were Lucius, Urgo, Martin Floyd, all-knowing carter,, Felger, Jaffa, Kinsey, Pete Shanahan, Knythia mckay
Sam plays advocate for the Tok'ra; but in hindsight, they were a terrible ally.
Maybe twice they lent a scout ship. Otherwise, they mostly used Earth as guinea pigs.
Sam's opinion is frankly biased; and the Russians were more of a pain in the ass than an asset.
The Tok'ra helped out.
@@Ragitsu Yeah; but my point is that the SGC helped them far more than they did.
They helped with those invisible quadrupeds; but every reality where Earth is invaded, they do nothing.
Bra'tac came to help stop Apophis' 1st invasion attempt. He and the Jaffa rebels were far more helpful.
Meanwhile, the SGC helped them evacuate several bases. Eventually setting them up with the Jaffa rebels, where the SGC handled all the supplies.
The SGC exposed a traitor and brainwashed assassin.
The Tok'ra tested those arm bands on SG1; and would show up if the SGC found anything interesting.
SG1 helped them blow up a star, get into a meeting of the System Lords, and sabotage Anubis' flagship.
The Tok'ra kept tech from Earth. They likely would not want the satellites to be made because "you are not ready for it."
Daniel's position was understandable is all I really meant here.
@@zacharysheetz3701 The Tok'ra rescued Jack and Teal'c when they were stuck in that Death Glider; the Tok'ra also rescued SG-1 after they saved Earth from Anubis' asteroid ploy. The Tok'ra saved the Pangarans from their tretonin dependency.
@@Ragitsu Those first two were the scout ship stuff I was talking about. As for the Pangarans, my point wasn't that they never helped anyone. My point was and is that they weren't the most helpful allies.
In the scene that started this, Sam talks about how the Tok'ra could help them with the satellites. I doubt they would have because they never helped with defense and weapons technology. Examples being the X-302s and Daedalus.
Actually, they did coop on the anti-anubis-warrior weapon.
In universe, I would not expect much help from them. This being more of a realization after binging the whole series a few years back. When I watched the show during the original airing, I thought they were more helpful. In review, not so much. However, they were far more helpful than the Nox; and the system lords were more helpful than the Tollen.
The best allies were the Asgard and the Jaffa Rebels.
@@zacharysheetz3701 The Tok'ra also provided their shield generator technology.
I hated this episode because it illustrate the corruption in anyone of us
Why would you hate it then?
Shouldn't you be glad, that it is now highlighted for all to see that power corrupts the ego.
It gladens me, because it's true and should be know. Like history... People trying to erase history like Hitler because they have no accountability of their feelings.. deleting history would serve to cause it again.
This episode is education of emotional reality
Back when $80 billion seemed like an absurd expenditure. iirc this was actually a few years after (one of the times) the Pentagon misplaced over $3 trillion, though.
Not to mention the way this episode portrays the idea of treating Russia as an adversary.