In Morgan Freeman's voice, "I like to think the last thing going through Ba'al's head, other than that bullet, was, "How in the hell did SG-1 get one step ahead of him?""
I was thinking more of along these lines … "It was this moment that Ba'al realized he had fracked up". I love how he waits long enough for Ba'al to see him then shoots just to get that reaction lol
He ascends out of a pure and unyielding desire to assuage his utter confusion: "SERIOUSLY, SG1!!! HOW THE F****!?! TELL ME OR I HAUNT YOU FOR ETERNITY!!!"
@@kentonbaird1723 Yeah I don't think there are any Ancients that messed up enough to help Ba'al ascend just to have a satisfied Ba'al. Oh and the Ori don't even know about the Milky Way at the moment of this Ba'al's death, so no help from them not that they would. Plus Ba'al spiritually pure {insert ridiculously long laugh here}.
@@daviddrake5991 Time Travel episode. This scene takes place nearly 100 years before Daniel sets foot in the Ori home Galaxy. Yes the previous SG1 movie had them deal with the Ori, and yes this movie starts after the defeat of the Ori but this specific scene takes place before the Ori knows about the Milky Way since it's under the Ancients protection and no one from the Milky Way has gotten the Ori's attention.
Yeah, he propably wagered what he saw against last nights drinks. Combine that with the sentiment that a common man does not involve himself in the business of men of statue he is fine i guess. :)
Had a great uncle who was a chief mate in the Merchants between 30s-50s, he used to tell us about 'Blighty-to-Boston' runs and how he got into trouble a few times even without the war on, they could handle themselves pretty well.
Yeah and he brought some Thompson machine guns with it back then they was legal to own there was no waiting permit none of that b******* so he waited for 10 years brought plenty of guns and ammo and waited
TheHed94 I mean, it's basically just chainmail and plate... it's not even meant to absorb their own weapons. The only reason that they had any trouble with them in the first few seasons was because they weren't using an appropriate calibre.
Jaffa armour is more about arrogance and putting on a show rather than protection. To ignorant populations, they probably look very scary and powerful but to a technologically developed people, they are just clumsy and vulnerable.
When it comes to the Goa'uld, most of the tech isn't really flashed out. Why make good weapons and armor if you have unlimited slaves? They went with the first working version most of the time. And anytime a Goa'uld is making something new, it's doomsday
after all these years, i've just realised how fortunate they are that the gate wasnt place any lower in the ships hull. As it is any hint of a storm and that boats going down, with that hole so close to the waterline
A ten year ambush mission success. Was told Michele had to wait ten long years before that event took place. Also been ages since I last saw the movie.
@@philtomkinson7956 agreed. And hey i gotta say. Ten years to prep is good enough and time used wisely to prep lol. Despite the amount of time it took Michele was a good god knows how many steps ahead of bahl (forgive me if I misspelled his name) before he even commenced his plan to take over the ship
@Gun14Slinger Ba'al"s plan was to sink the ship, the Stargate is at the bottom of the ocean. That big ball the last Jaffa was carrying was a bomb. They set the bomb, dial out and leave. BOOM! and it's at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
I still wonder if the original Mitchell just grew old and was forced to stay in that timeline. Kinda sad, at least Teal'C got to return to the original timeline in the series finale after he was stranded in time with SG-1
@@jackolantiltin3938 Personally, do we even know how he got to Earth in the first place? My theory has always been that Mitchell stole a goa'uld cargo ship somewhere and used it to get to Earth.
@@jackolantiltin3938 Nice use of Star Trek First Contact :D This Mitchell probably lived out his days in the 1940s through 1970s/1980s. In 1939 they were just beginning to experiment on the gate, and the disappearance of Ernest Littlefield. The gate won't even be operational and in use until 1995. They don't even have a DHD on Earth, until discovered in Antarctica, and the computer system in use by the SGC won't be invented until the 1990s.
This is actually an interesting scene entirely. This Ba'al came from the "future" - the future of the 1930s, that is. But he very likely didn't just return to the future. He used the gate normally, probably to get to 1930s himself and then disposed of that version of himself and used his knowledge to become the most powerful Goa'uld of his time.
now imagine the stargate is facing downward... and the vortex made a hole at the bottom of the ship. baal wouldn't know and will walk through it and die while accomplishing his mission.
Actually, im not sure, that would mean if you run into an active incoming wormhole, you be vaporized? (Im not talking about when the vortex is created)
he knew a lot about the way in which the gate was transported. In all likelihood it would have been very meticulously recorded in the chief archaeologists files (after it was made a secret project) whoever was in charge of the classifieds would have insisted on it so there would have been some information somewhere saying the gate was loaded into an upright sealed packing create for transport. I mean he did have a phone so he would have been on earth at some point, he could have got the info then, wouldn't have been hard since he knew what he was looking for & had the tech to force the information out of people.
There was a thread back in the day that Mitchell was O'Neil's son for the trip to the 60's. I wonder now if O'Neil is now Mitchell's son from his trip to the 30's. Very Heinlein-ian and just what I would expect from this show :)
It was actually an idea they toyed with when creating the character but didn't go through with it,, it was then mentioned in the 200th episode. Would have been cool if Mitchell was the son of the couple who helped SG1 in 1969.
Why is there a hole at the back of the box behind the Stargate? The “kawoosh” effect only moves forward and disintegrates anything in front of the gate right?
Well, in the original Stargate movie the kawoosh first goes into the other direction like whirlpool. So.... that is the reason, because the gate isn't secured with all the dampers to make the opening sweet and smooth.
You know if he was smart, he would use his knowledge to invest in certain stocks, write a mission report and have it delivered by a lawyer after the events of the movie and use that money for himself or help fund the Stargate program. With even a base level knowledge he could make billions on stocks.
In the novel Stargate SG-1 Roswell, Mitchell and Vala did exactly that after getting stuck in 1908 during a time travel misadventure taking place during Season 10. They then used that to fund their attempts to unbury the Gate in Egypt and go back to fix the timeline. Instead, they screwed it up leading to a Goa'uld invasion of the planet in 1947 with Vala as Qetesh's host and Mitchell as her First Prime. Fun book. After time was fixed, it was revealed that one of the people who sent the gang back in time in the first place (the other was a future version of Carter) was actually HG Wells.
Ah stargate, the seryies where you can beat a somewhat technologically superior (yet inferior in some ways) enemy by glorified "spawn camping" :D I always think of SG 1 with some massive force getting ready to invade earth, single file, through the gait, into .50 caliber machineguns, 300 style ;)
The problem for the Earth and others was never the Stargate itself. Stargate Command already dealt with that problem with the iris, Jaffa go splat. The problem was the System Lords had a bit more then the Stargates to travel with, big honking pyramid ships that can shrug off nukes. There is a reason why the SG teams won pretty much any ground engagement but knew they couldn't anything about threats from space until they got their own big honking ships.
You'd think it they really wanted to avoid U-Boats, they would black out their running lights, and the lights on the bridge. AND, the Thompsons they were using did not go into production until 1941. They should have had Model 1929 guns in 1939. Just saying.
if we reference the pilot to this episode ball ammo or fmj ammo barely fazes jaffa armor. That said they supposedly upgraded to either naquadah tipped armor penetrators and\or Trinium tipped penetrators. If fmj 5.56 as close didn't kill all the jaffa in the first epi thompons would need flesh to kill, And I didn't count more than ONE brain capper in the bunch!lol
Head on, possibly. But these are Thompson SMGs that fire .45 ACP, or as The Fat Electrician likes to call them Anti-Cow Penetration. These rounds were tested to be able to kill cattle with a single shot. The 5.56, being a smaller cartridge with an intermediate powder charge has significantly less power than a .45 ACP at close range and the 9MM MP5 was the choice of weapon for dealing with Jaffa armor until the SGC adopted the P90 5.7 PDW. So yes, the cattle-killing power of the Thompson sub-machine gun could most certainly ruin a Jaffa's day, especially when taking fire from the sides in ambush
Just a wee bit of historical nitpicking. They're using Thompson M1A1 SMGs, but the year is 1939. They would have used M1921 or M1928 versions of the Submachine gun. The M1/M1A1 versions weren't even made until 1942. If Mitchell brought them with him, he's bringing 'future tech' with him (by a few years) LOL
@@kevinpogue7294 Probably. During the entire run of the show, the submachine guns seen on Stargate SG1 were nearly all Modern ones. A period correct M1921 or M1928 was not seen. Weird. Being in Canada, I figured they would have period weapons available. They have everything else.
Great ending, but....Mitchell almost would have HAD to commit suicide after this to preserve the rest of the timeline as much as possible. Every action he took after this, just EXISTING, would alter history.
Since they don't follow a temporal mechanics paradigm here that has different timelines always diverging from each other (as strongly suggested by Mitchell's altered family photo), wouldn't this occurring have changed the development of the use of the Stargate? Even if Mitchell ditched the mini-DHD (and the bodies) in the drink, the authorities would have had the experience related by his grandfather and the crewman to reflect on, as well as the evidence of that huge hole in the ship's side. Hence, while not much more to go on, then would've been received if the trip had gone normally, wouldn't those slight variations have made it impossible for the Stargate's use, SG1's formation, and everything that followed it, happen as we've viewed it, as appears to be what we're meant to believe at the end?
bad make up trying to make him look old,what got me was what did he do after,he could'nt turn up at stargate command years later and say he was mitchell with two of them would they believe him,same with tin man when they got killed on the planet they never said what happen to harlan did they make new copies so he was'nt alone again for another 11 thousand years,pity they cancelled the show would of liked to see if they showed what happen it was a brilliant show.
It's not easy to do an "Old Ben Browder" makeup, since the guy still looks 40 years old and he's around 60 now, lol. He actually had to grow a beard now because they didn't want to hire him for a role, because he looked too young. Also in SG-1, the actor who plays his father in an episode, the actor is actually younger than Ben. XD
There are 2 theories about time travel that contradict each other. The first one states that no matter what you do in the past, the timeline stays the same because you going to the past was always going to happen and is part of history. The second theory states that everytime you go in the past, a new timeline emerges in which the future is uncertain and is bound to be modified. In the universe of stargate, the second theory applies, and therefore yes there are 2 Mitchels provided the one in the past does not prevent the one in the present to be born. also as information, the grandpa paradox isn't real, it is only born from a confusion of the 2 theories mixed together.
With what Mitchell knew of the past he should have made a ton of money to make sure he could live and complete the mission .. He had to survive for 10 yrs to get to this point
Throw the Jaffa, Ba'al, staff weapons and bomb overboard, swear the captain and first mate to secrecy (it would just be another fish tale anyway) and don't involve yourself in world events after this and the timeline damage should be minimal.
@@develynseether4426 he had 10 years of altering the timeline .. The ripple effect will only multiple .. Cameron would have to die before he was born or there would be two of them in the same timeline
@@xadam2dudex true but I'm sure he was able to meek out a living in some random cabin in the woods away from civilisation. Plus he'd be 89 when his younger self was born so he might have already been dead by then anyway.
@@develynseether4426 Also entropy cascade would not be a factor here because there are not two co-existing Mitchells from differing universes. This is an older Mitchell from the same universe.
RIP Cliff Simon, you left us far to soon. SG fans salute the last of the System Lords. Thank you.
I didn't know that he died.
@@Iangardner09 this or last year. Pretty recently tho
I just learned about it from you, I didn't even know. 😟
Salute
In Morgan Freeman's voice, "I like to think the last thing going through Ba'al's head, other than that bullet, was, "How in the hell did SG-1 get one step ahead of him?""
time travel
Shawshank reference. 😁
My Mind read it with his voice^^
I was thinking more of along these lines … "It was this moment that Ba'al realized he had fracked up". I love how he waits long enough for Ba'al to see him then shoots just to get that reaction lol
In the Immortal Words of Keegan-Michael Key
, "Don't F*** WITH TIME! DON'T, F***, WITH TIME!"
Always loved the fact that Mitchell didn't let Ba'al even start to monologue. Been waiting too long. Stakes are too high. Get the job done.
Not giving him a chance to turn on his personal shield.
You can't go through the Stargate with it turned on.
Too right, he waited 10 years for this moment….He just wanted to mow them all down the moment they stepped through that gate….
Baa'l's gaze is masterful. He just wanted to say "WTF? How did my absolutely brilliant plan go so wrong?"
Also he surely has to recognise that it's Mitchell.
WINNER!!
Ba'al seeing the leader of SG1 pointing a gun at him with dead Jaffa at his feet, "Oh, you've got to be kid..."
He ascends out of a pure and unyielding desire to assuage his utter confusion:
"SERIOUSLY, SG1!!! HOW THE F****!?! TELL ME OR I HAUNT YOU FOR ETERNITY!!!"
@@kentonbaird1723 Yeah I don't think there are any Ancients that messed up enough to help Ba'al ascend just to have a satisfied Ba'al. Oh and the Ori don't even know about the Milky Way at the moment of this Ba'al's death, so no help from them not that they would. Plus Ba'al spiritually pure {insert ridiculously long laugh here}.
@@rvaughan74 This is after the war with the Ori.
@@daviddrake5991 Time Travel episode. This scene takes place nearly 100 years before Daniel sets foot in the Ori home Galaxy. Yes the previous SG1 movie had them deal with the Ori, and yes this movie starts after the defeat of the Ori but this specific scene takes place before the Ori knows about the Milky Way since it's under the Ancients protection and no one from the Milky Way has gotten the Ori's attention.
@@rvaughan74 In the start of the movie everyone was chill. That is why I stated that this movie is after the other one.
The fact that the crew member kept his cool and didn't question what was happening was amazing.
Yeah, he propably wagered what he saw against last nights drinks. Combine that with the sentiment that a common man does not involve himself in the business of men of statue he is fine i guess. :)
He thought Mitchell was his captain at first and then he was like WTF???!!!
Had a great uncle who was a chief mate in the Merchants between 30s-50s, he used to tell us about 'Blighty-to-Boston' runs and how he got into trouble a few times even without the war on, they could handle themselves pretty well.
He thought that Mitchell was his captain.
So basically Mitchel just did Spawn Camping. With 10 years of waiting time (fixed wrong year count).
2? Try 10 years
@@JustSumGuy01 That only makes the spawn camping worse :)
10 sir/madam.
Well at least Mitchell's grampa didn't get killed leaving Mitchell stuck having to become his own grampa.
No nasty in the pasty for him.
Yeah and he brought some Thompson machine guns with it back then they was legal to own there was no waiting permit none of that b******* so he waited for 10 years brought plenty of guns and ammo and waited
Surprising too considering the Stargate blew a gaping hole in the ship.
I actually like the "unexpected" reunion Mitchell has.
I watch that Ba'al face sometimes and I'm feeling down. Cheers me right back up.
Never get tired of watching old Stargate clips. ..... Ah, the nostalgia. :')
I love how using a Thompson makes perfect sense in hindsight, because they mention in the show that .45 is capable of piercing Jaffa Armor.
Well Jaffa armor seems to be totaly useless - paper armour would be better
TheHed94 I mean, it's basically just chainmail and plate... it's not even meant to absorb their own weapons. The only reason that they had any trouble with them in the first few seasons was because they weren't using an appropriate calibre.
I also think they switced to AP armor pretty early as well
Jaffa armour is more about arrogance and putting on a show rather than protection. To ignorant populations, they probably look very scary and powerful but to a technologically developed people, they are just clumsy and vulnerable.
When it comes to the Goa'uld, most of the tech isn't really flashed out. Why make good weapons and armor if you have unlimited slaves? They went with the first working version most of the time.
And anytime a Goa'uld is making something new, it's doomsday
The captain and crew seem pretty cool with a giant hole punched in the side of the ship and that they just had a firefight in the hold.
That wasn't a firefight, it was a slaughter but a welcomed good one.
Baals face always gets me ;D
That deer-in-the-headlights look is just priceless!
He's thinking "You? HOW!?" before dying.
Kicking evil alien ass with a Thompson. That's pure stargate.
after all these years, i've just realised how fortunate they are that the gate wasnt place any lower in the ships hull. As it is any hint of a storm and that boats going down, with that hole so close to the waterline
A ten year ambush mission success. Was told Michele had to wait ten long years before that event took place. Also been ages since I last saw the movie.
With 10 years prep time if Mitchell had failed it would have been the mother of all screw ups 😂
@@philtomkinson7956 agreed. And hey i gotta say. Ten years to prep is good enough and time used wisely to prep lol. Despite the amount of time it took Michele was a good god knows how many steps ahead of bahl (forgive me if I misspelled his name) before he even commenced his plan to take over the ship
@Gun14Slinger Ba'al"s plan was to sink the ship, the Stargate is at the bottom of the ocean.
That big ball the last Jaffa was carrying was a bomb.
They set the bomb, dial out and leave. BOOM! and it's at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
@@sigma80 yes I remember that
1:59 Baal: *”How did you...aw shi-...* [Dead]
Ba'al WutFace 1:50 pure comedy gold 😂
I still wonder if the original Mitchell just grew old and was forced to stay in that timeline. Kinda sad, at least Teal'C got to return to the original timeline in the series finale after he was stranded in time with SG-1
Yes, but he probably knew what stocks to invest in and what sports teams to bet on, so he was just fine.
@@jackolantiltin3938 was a subtle star trek first contact reference? If so good one.
@@jackolantiltin3938
Personally, do we even know how he got to Earth in the first place? My theory has always been that Mitchell stole a goa'uld cargo ship somewhere and used it to get to Earth.
@@jackolantiltin3938 Nice use of Star Trek First Contact :D
This Mitchell probably lived out his days in the 1940s through 1970s/1980s. In 1939 they were just beginning to experiment on the gate, and the disappearance of Ernest Littlefield. The gate won't even be operational and in use until 1995. They don't even have a DHD on Earth, until discovered in Antarctica, and the computer system in use by the SGC won't be invented until the 1990s.
He could use the gate by dialing it manually, the question is where would he go?
they could have saved a lot of trouble just by transporting the stargate facing up.
My guess is it would either create an unbalanced load for the ship or they just didn't have the space to do that.
Imagine if the Baal and his guards came through the gate either face up or face down Lol…..
Facing up or down would sink the ship. Up the woosh takes out the top deck, down it puts a hole straight through the Keel
Or have the gate facing the water, so all the Jaffa and Ba'al would fall into the ocean.
@@autisticgamer4949 Why would punching a hole in the top deck sink the ship?
one of the best scenes by SG-1
Mitchell: Boom, headshot !
Ba'al: WTF you spawn camping $%^T !!!!!.
This is actually an interesting scene entirely.
This Ba'al came from the "future" - the future of the 1930s, that is. But he very likely didn't just return to the future. He used the gate normally, probably to get to 1930s himself and then disposed of that version of himself and used his knowledge to become the most powerful Goa'uld of his time.
Yes, I watched the movie too.
😂😂😂 @@UGNAvalon
At the moment Ba'al stepped thru the gate while alive those 3 seconds, there was 2 real Ba'als in the same moment 🤣
Never saw this so its neat. Baal's face is priceless.
It's like just before he was shot, he's thinking, "Aw, son of a-" (bang!)
I miss trhis show !
Goa'uld vs Chicago typewriter. A matchup I never knew I wanted.
now imagine the stargate is facing downward... and the vortex made a hole at the bottom of the ship. baal wouldn't know and will walk through it and die while accomplishing his mission.
actually wouldnt he fall through the activated gate again once he materializes if it was upside aswell :D
Actually, im not sure, that would mean if you run into an active incoming wormhole, you be vaporized? (Im not talking about when the vortex is created)
there was an episode where this happened and the MALP fell back in and was dematerialized
they couldve also buried the gate, to prevent baal from accessing the past too.
he knew a lot about the way in which the gate was transported.
In all likelihood it would have been very meticulously recorded in the chief archaeologists files (after it was made a secret project) whoever was in charge of the classifieds would have insisted on it so there would have been some information somewhere saying the gate was loaded into an upright sealed packing create for transport.
I mean he did have a phone so he would have been on earth at some point, he could have got the info then, wouldn't have been hard since he knew what he was looking for & had the tech to force the information out of people.
Rip cliff Simon :(
Cheers me up every time.
The other's guy's perspective is pretty funny, his co-worker passes him a Thompson and just rolls with it.
There was a thread back in the day that Mitchell was O'Neil's son for the trip to the 60's. I wonder now if O'Neil is now Mitchell's son from his trip to the 30's. Very Heinlein-ian and just what I would expect from this show :)
I do believe that was a joke Carter was using to mess with Mitchell.
But it does make one think.
MIND BLOWN *POOF*
It was actually an idea they toyed with when creating the character but didn't go through with it,, it was then mentioned in the 200th episode.
Would have been cool if Mitchell was the son of the couple who helped SG1 in 1969.
Great job on the boat prop, the rivets have that ship a 30s look
The time machine should still exist on that planet in the revised timeline which opens up many possibilities for the Stargate universe
RIP, Cliff Simon
"Now walk through single file, and get shot one by one if there's anyone on the other side. I'll go through last; maybe they'll be out of bullets."
A comment by someone who did not see the movie, nor understands how the stargate works...... LOL
wow, that beard really suits him.
I know right, looks really good on him ;3
I loved Baal face.
WTF.
If I could go back in time to meet my Grandfather, I would.
Best scene in the whole damn movie!
Mitchell should have used a drum magazine, Chicago gangster style.
Nice shootin’, Tex. 😎
Baal's face.. 😂😎🧡
Interesting factoid, Mitchell lives this life out and is actually Jack O'Neill's father
Lie
Revenge for that Time-Travel Prank, by Daniel and Carte of "O´neill is your dad" XD
Great movie and franchise .
Why is there a hole at the back of the box behind the Stargate? The “kawoosh” effect only moves forward and disintegrates anything in front of the gate right?
Well, in the original Stargate movie the kawoosh first goes into the other direction like whirlpool. So.... that is the reason, because the gate isn't secured with all the dampers to make the opening sweet and smooth.
So long Ba'al. At LONG last!!!
Ba'al died in great confusion.
You can hardly tell the ship's Captain is Ben Browder. Lol.
Haha he also played his own grandfather's character
Surprise
You know if he was smart, he would use his knowledge to invest in certain stocks, write a mission report and have it delivered by a lawyer after the events of the movie and use that money for himself or help fund the Stargate program. With even a base level knowledge he could make billions on stocks.
In the novel Stargate SG-1 Roswell, Mitchell and Vala did exactly that after getting stuck in 1908 during a time travel misadventure taking place during Season 10. They then used that to fund their attempts to unbury the Gate in Egypt and go back to fix the timeline. Instead, they screwed it up leading to a Goa'uld invasion of the planet in 1947 with Vala as Qetesh's host and Mitchell as her First Prime. Fun book. After time was fixed, it was revealed that one of the people who sent the gang back in time in the first place (the other was a future version of Carter) was actually HG Wells.
Ah stargate, the seryies where you can beat a somewhat technologically superior (yet inferior in some ways) enemy by glorified "spawn camping" :D I always think of SG 1 with some massive force getting ready to invade earth, single file, through the gait, into .50 caliber machineguns, 300 style ;)
The problem for the Earth and others was never the Stargate itself. Stargate Command already dealt with that problem with the iris, Jaffa go splat. The problem was the System Lords had a bit more then the Stargates to travel with, big honking pyramid ships that can shrug off nukes. There is a reason why the SG teams won pretty much any ground engagement but knew they couldn't anything about threats from space until they got their own big honking ships.
Ba'al dislikes this
BA'ALS TO HIM LOL
Plus 3 of his clones...
1:55 - Greetings.
and the mission is accomplished
The only thing that bothers me in this clip... is that the back of the crate gets kawooshed too.
So my question(s) is where did those bodies end up and their staff weapons?
Col. Mitchell would likely have seen to it they got dropped overboard. He would have known better than to risk contaminating the timeline.
@@thundercricket4634 I guess he really dropped the Baal *rim shot
Ba'al be like WTF!
You'd think it they really wanted to avoid U-Boats, they would black out their running lights, and the lights on the bridge. AND, the Thompsons they were using did not go into production until 1941. They should have had Model 1929 guns in 1939. Just saying.
Still .45 ACP. If it can kill a cow it can kill an armored Jaffa.
if we reference the pilot to this episode ball ammo or fmj ammo barely fazes jaffa armor. That said they supposedly upgraded to either naquadah tipped armor penetrators and\or Trinium tipped penetrators. If fmj 5.56 as close didn't kill all the jaffa in the first epi thompons would need flesh to kill, And I didn't count more than ONE brain capper in the bunch!lol
Head on, possibly. But these are Thompson SMGs that fire .45 ACP, or as The Fat Electrician likes to call them Anti-Cow Penetration. These rounds were tested to be able to kill cattle with a single shot. The 5.56, being a smaller cartridge with an intermediate powder charge has significantly less power than a .45 ACP at close range and the 9MM MP5 was the choice of weapon for dealing with Jaffa armor until the SGC adopted the P90 5.7 PDW.
So yes, the cattle-killing power of the Thompson sub-machine gun could most certainly ruin a Jaffa's day, especially when taking fire from the sides in ambush
They should have shown them headshotting the Jaffa like they did with Baal
Just a wee bit of historical nitpicking. They're using Thompson M1A1 SMGs, but the year is 1939. They would have used M1921 or M1928 versions of the Submachine gun. The M1/M1A1 versions weren't even made until 1942. If Mitchell brought them with him, he's bringing 'future tech' with him (by a few years) LOL
Scotty: Why? How do we know he didn't invent the thing? ;)
The prop department uses what they can get.
If I recall correctly, he did run into the gate with an AK47 lol, before tealc blew Ba'als time machine.
@@kevinpogue7294 Probably. During the entire run of the show, the submachine guns seen on Stargate SG1 were nearly all Modern ones. A period correct M1921 or M1928 was not seen. Weird. Being in Canada, I figured they would have period weapons available. They have everything else.
Same show where highly decorated soldiers call a magazine a clip.
Thumbnail looks like Sam Fisher
Wow
Great ending, but....Mitchell almost would have HAD to commit suicide after this to preserve the rest of the timeline as much as possible. Every action he took after this, just EXISTING, would alter history.
So M16s can't breach a Jaffa's armour but a WW2 Thompson SMG can? Yep another thing that makes sense in stargate.
Since they don't follow a temporal mechanics paradigm here that has different timelines always diverging from each other (as strongly suggested by Mitchell's altered family photo), wouldn't this occurring have changed the development of the use of the Stargate? Even if Mitchell ditched the mini-DHD (and the bodies) in the drink, the authorities would have had the experience related by his grandfather and the crewman to reflect on, as well as the evidence of that huge hole in the ship's side. Hence, while not much more to go on, then would've been received if the trip had gone normally, wouldn't those slight variations have made it impossible for the Stargate's use, SG1's formation, and everything that followed it, happen as we've viewed it, as appears to be what we're meant to believe at the end?
Presumably Mitchell's grandfather covered it all up once he explained so no one else actually knew about it.
bad make up trying to make him look old,what got me was what did he do after,he could'nt turn up at stargate command years later and say he was mitchell with two of them would they believe him,same with tin man when they got killed on the planet they never said what happen to harlan did they make new copies so he was'nt alone again for another 11 thousand years,pity they cancelled the show would of liked to see if they showed what happen it was a brilliant show.
I've seen a couple guys that look longer the older relative version of Ben browder in oldies makeup. He also shoves out his gut during the scenes too.
It's not easy to do an "Old Ben Browder" makeup, since the guy still looks 40 years old and he's around 60 now, lol. He actually had to grow a beard now because they didn't want to hire him for a role, because he looked too young.
Also in SG-1, the actor who plays his father in an episode, the actor is actually younger than Ben. XD
And the baal was popped
Question how did Cam got back from 1939? To the current time. Also it looks the Grandfather start late to have children.
He DIDN'T get back: he lived out the rest of his life in the past as depicted by the picture at the end of the movie.
14 Ba’al clones dislike this.
Crap that's all it is.Mitchell supposed to disappear once baal died and didn't changed the history.now what they got 2 Mitchell's???lmao
hes also his own grandfather.
There was a version of Mitchell that lived and died back then, yes.
There are 2 theories about time travel that contradict each other. The first one states that no matter what you do in the past, the timeline stays the same because you going to the past was always going to happen and is part of history. The second theory states that everytime you go in the past, a new timeline emerges in which the future is uncertain and is bound to be modified.
In the universe of stargate, the second theory applies, and therefore yes there are 2 Mitchels provided the one in the past does not prevent the one in the present to be born.
also as information, the grandpa paradox isn't real, it is only born from a confusion of the 2 theories mixed together.
mitchell is his own grandfather, since he eventually sired his own grandson.
How do you think Grandma Mitchell learned that cookie recipe?
They did a great job constructing this set for this scene ...it looks pretty real
Love the perfect hole in the side of the ship
they better hope they don't run into any rough seas or they will be at the bottom of the North Atlantic
The rest of the cargo was a massive supply of Duct tape, so they'll be fine.
@@richardm3023 Flex tape!
They just induce a list
With what Mitchell knew of the past he should have made a ton of money to make sure he could live and complete the mission .. He had to survive for 10 yrs to get to this point
Of course this just changed history .. A new time line began when Mitchell came thru the stargate in 1929
Maybe it was the original timeline and he came through thete
Throw the Jaffa, Ba'al, staff weapons and bomb overboard, swear the captain and first mate to secrecy (it would just be another fish tale anyway) and don't involve yourself in world events after this and the timeline damage should be minimal.
@@develynseether4426 he had 10 years of altering the timeline .. The ripple effect will only multiple .. Cameron would have to die before he was born or there would be two of them in the same timeline
@@xadam2dudex true but I'm sure he was able to meek out a living in some random cabin in the woods away from civilisation. Plus he'd be 89 when his younger self was born so he might have already been dead by then anyway.
@@develynseether4426 Also entropy cascade would not be a factor here because there are not two co-existing Mitchells from differing universes. This is an older Mitchell from the same universe.
They better hope they don't run into any rough seas in the North Atlantic .. Yeah right