higher tier cas in ok until some a6 tram climbs over battlefield at 10km where your spaa cant reach or missile ones cant elevate (sweden problem). after that its all good until you meet f16c. ive started to bring a fighter instead of spaa because its 2x better counter to cas.
7:00 On winter maps it's difficult to get a clean lock because the target is colder cuz of the weather. So on winter maps with the Ozelot I get a lock at around 2.0-2.5km, while on normal maps the lock comes around 5-6km.
Which is funny Because FIM 92 was developed as a counter to Helicopters and low and slow attack aircraft that's while it can't pull very many Gs it's not ment for maneuverable targets.
I love 8.7-9.3 simply because CAS is so much harder to die to, because of competent SPAAs that can reliably kill jets, and the rarity of guided ordnance, the only things that truly are scary are the Alpha Jet, A-4E, and the SAAB-105
This better be April fools. Cas is the reason I don’t play war thunder much. I’ve gotten to actually be a really good tank player but I can’t play tanks because aircraft exist. When I got my 9.7 lineup all researched, my first spaded vehicles were the ozelot and Gepard 1a2. My most played vehicles in a ground mode shouldn’t be the AA gaijin!
I feel like I should add that while early missile AA (IR missiles - Ozelot, LAV-AD) are easy to use, not al nations have them. France for example has no missile AA untill later on, and japan only has 2 missile based AA systems total, both at very high tiers
I have played the ka-50 before and it's not the biggest issue. I played top tier ground a lit, and 99% of CAS deaths are from orbital GBU flinging F-16s flying above radars
@@boat5138441 A CAS abuser with more than 3 braincells can easily dodge it. Even the supposedly unbeatable SAM doesn't have infinite energy, at 15ish km, the jet can do 10g pulls opposite directions and the SAM will fall out of the sky
ok so i agreed w u in the other videos but in this i cant rank 7 and 6 are the weirdest and yes these g91 rockets are skill but these types of rockets have like 6 aircraft in the whole game and on rank 8 there are just planes like av 8b or f16s or gripens and like that, that have many guided bombs and most spaas have like 10kms of range and they can be dodged, even tho you need skill to dodge it on most maps there are mountains that the aircraft can hide behind, and unless u have a pantsir in your team theres pretty much no way to kill an aircraft 3-4km away and 8kms high. Helis are the worst they cant be countered some like the ka50 are premium easy to use and worst case scenario they rush on the start of the game, if they wait like 3 minutes before rushing most tanks are fighting or capping points and the unguided rockets on rank 6+ literally tell you where to shoot them so if you heli rush you distract the enemy tanks helis are usually durable and are hard to kill even with 50 cals, so its unbalanced on rank 7 and 8, and im not gonna even talk about the Ayit look at it in game, if its just a little skilled pilot its really unkillable. I know its a very long comment and english is not my first language so it might be a bit hard to read but i would be glad if you read it and understood it:) Edit: i now saw that its 1st april vid but i am watching it a bit late but i am not sure if you really mean it coz u sounded pretty serious
Man whats fair about trying to kill a f-16 as a challenger 2 tell me how i kill a plane that has no issues dodging the best spaas in the game. Like its so unbalanced that’s its comical
I would also argue that SPAA is way better at higher tiers than at lower tiers. SPAA like the Pantsir is almost broken in many ways. Now only does it have guided surface to air missiles, but it also has a very rapid firing autocannon that makes it great at not just being an SPAA, but it can also hold it’s own against tanks. I’d argue that the brokenness of the Pantsir and other top tier SPAAs is actually good because the SPAA line is so annoying and frustrating to grind through. Getting one of the best vehicles in all of War Thunder should be a treat for having to suffer through what is otherwise one of the most frustrating and helpless vehicles types in the game. Also ground vehicles actually having a chance against air vehicles in their own mode is based. I know many people will say “oH jUST REmOvE CAS ENTirEly!!” And to that I’d just say play simulator mode. Surprisingly WT players actually don’t know how to fly planes so CAS is basically nonexistent. And since bushes actually take up your field of view bush bros are also nonexistent. All you get is a very limited field of view to see from and some camouflage if you got the GE to spare and your aim.
I think I had it like that at first, but I find using the arrow keys better because then you can pitch, roll, etc the plane with WASD if you need to. I know you can do that with the mouse but it just seems more intuitive to me.
higher tier cas in ok until some a6 tram climbs over battlefield at 10km where your spaa cant reach or missile ones cant elevate (sweden problem). after that its all good until you meet f16c. ive started to bring a fighter instead of spaa because its 2x better counter to cas.
oh damn its april fools shi my bad
7:00 On winter maps it's difficult to get a clean lock because the target is colder cuz of the weather. So on winter maps with the Ozelot I get a lock at around 2.0-2.5km, while on normal maps the lock comes around 5-6km.
When I saw this I thought you where a mincraft RUclipsr 😭😭😭
😭😭😭 I'M DYING
Your coming up on my algorithm now. WTF?
Which is funny Because FIM 92 was developed as a counter to Helicopters and low and slow attack aircraft that's while it can't pull very many Gs it's not ment for maneuverable targets.
but that shit cant lock a heli at 2km
I love 8.7-9.3 simply because CAS is so much harder to die to, because of competent SPAAs that can reliably kill jets, and the rarity of guided ordnance, the only things that truly are scary are the Alpha Jet, A-4E, and the SAAB-105
I play US at 9.3 and everytime I play against Russia(almost every game) I die to CAS
@@chrismiller6254 The Su-25 should not be 10.0 in Ground RB. Plain and simple.
CAS only needs nerfs ..not buffs ..ground rb is ground rb , you dont want to get sniped from about 4km or more !
Ye simulator ground battles is something... Helicopters are so OP they jus need a little right ans left move to dodge AA canon shoot
@@xdfantom9727 glad i only played 3 simulation battles xD
Peter is having an exisential crisis rn please someone comfort him.
I have no issues with CAS at any BR - im normally killed by a tank way before I get revenge killed
yooo fellow skill issued human
This better be April fools. Cas is the reason I don’t play war thunder much. I’ve gotten to actually be a really good tank player but I can’t play tanks because aircraft exist. When I got my 9.7 lineup all researched, my first spaded vehicles were the ozelot and Gepard 1a2. My most played vehicles in a ground mode shouldn’t be the AA gaijin!
i have that exact problem with stingers not locking on helis. no clue why it happens, especially when they're well within range
I feel like I should add that while early missile AA (IR missiles - Ozelot, LAV-AD) are easy to use, not al nations have them. France for example has no missile AA untill later on, and japan only has 2 missile based AA systems total, both at very high tiers
Now Gaijin just needs to make it so that missiles can lock helis. Stingers shouldn't struggle to lock a heli.
I have played the ka-50 before and it's not the biggest issue.
I played top tier ground a lit, and 99% of CAS deaths are from orbital GBU flinging F-16s flying above radars
brother you need something called pantsir bias
@@boat5138441 A CAS abuser with more than 3 braincells can easily dodge it. Even the supposedly unbeatable SAM doesn't have infinite energy, at 15ish km, the jet can do 10g pulls opposite directions and the SAM will fall out of the sky
ok so i agreed w u in the other videos but in this i cant rank 7 and 6 are the weirdest and yes these g91 rockets are skill but these types of rockets have like 6 aircraft in the whole game and on rank 8 there are just planes like av 8b or f16s or gripens and like that, that have many guided bombs and most spaas have like 10kms of range and they can be dodged, even tho you need skill to dodge it on most maps there are mountains that the aircraft can hide behind, and unless u have a pantsir in your team theres pretty much no way to kill an aircraft 3-4km away and 8kms high. Helis are the worst they cant be countered some like the ka50 are premium easy to use and worst case scenario they rush on the start of the game, if they wait like 3 minutes before rushing most tanks are fighting or capping points and the unguided rockets on rank 6+ literally tell you where to shoot them so if you heli rush you distract the enemy tanks helis are usually durable and are hard to kill even with 50 cals, so its unbalanced on rank 7 and 8, and im not gonna even talk about the Ayit look at it in game, if its just a little skilled pilot its really unkillable. I know its a very long comment and english is not my first language so it might be a bit hard to read but i would be glad if you read it and understood it:)
Edit: i now saw that its 1st april vid but i am watching it a bit late but i am not sure if you really mean it coz u sounded pretty serious
I think at 7.0 to 9.0 cas is fine but any higher cas is just braindead
Man whats fair about trying to kill a f-16 as a challenger 2 tell me how i kill a plane that has no issues dodging the best spaas in the game. Like its so unbalanced that’s its comical
All im saying. I like the Duck. HS-129. its fun
I would also argue that SPAA is way better at higher tiers than at lower tiers. SPAA like the Pantsir is almost broken in many ways. Now only does it have guided surface to air missiles, but it also has a very rapid firing autocannon that makes it great at not just being an SPAA, but it can also hold it’s own against tanks. I’d argue that the brokenness of the Pantsir and other top tier SPAAs is actually good because the SPAA line is so annoying and frustrating to grind through. Getting one of the best vehicles in all of War Thunder should be a treat for having to suffer through what is otherwise one of the most frustrating and helpless vehicles types in the game. Also ground vehicles actually having a chance against air vehicles in their own mode is based. I know many people will say “oH jUST REmOvE CAS ENTirEly!!” And to that I’d just say play simulator mode. Surprisingly WT players actually don’t know how to fly planes so CAS is basically nonexistent. And since bushes actually take up your field of view bush bros are also nonexistent. All you get is a very limited field of view to see from and some camouflage if you got the GE to spare and your aim.
you see, the Pantsir is only broken because its russia.
I remember see you in my match in pve before.. unlucky man
hui there Tymptra do you live in the us beacause is you dont id like to play some war thunder oneday with you
Hey! Sorry for the late reply! Thanks for offering to play with me, but I kind of just like to play alone as a way to de-stress after the day :)
@@Tymptra hey man no worries im just looking for someone to play wt with but no worries and keep pumping out good wt vids like these ;)
The beginning gave me a stroke
oh my god you tricked me
unsubscribed, unforgettable (also try binding your missile guidance to shift+wasd or ctrl+wasd)
I think I had it like that at first, but I find using the arrow keys better because then you can pitch, roll, etc the plane with WASD if you need to. I know you can do that with the mouse but it just seems more intuitive to me.
Is this an April fools video??
Im so confused 😂
Wait yea
Please tell me this is April Fools.
Traitor!
Big News: ground player discover you need skill to use planes 😮
Nah just for ones with manually guided missiles
so you saying its eazy to sit 6km out with an apache and point and click hellfire missiles?@@Tymptra
@@RogueBeatsARG haven't played with that specifically but looking at some gameplay it looks even easier than SCLOS or MCLOS missiles, so yes.
@@Tymptra you forgot its aprils fools bro lol
@@RogueBeatsARG I suppose now I am the Aprilest fool XD
WHY ARE U A CAS PLAYER
Calm down