MENTAL ILLNESS MEMES
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Unpopular opinion but honestly, I think it's not that deep. Like, I'd rather laugh about my anxiety and eating disorder than cry about it. It's a way for me and many other people to cope. Doesn't mean it's promoting.
Ariane Belley I agree x
I think that most things these days, are not that deep... And getting offended at everything and looking at myself with a victim mentality made my mental illness way worse than it ever was.
I agree. I think being able to take a step back and think about how silly and illogical my depression is being helps me cope, and if a meme is the thing that causes me to go through this process of humanising my mental illnesses and putting them into a perspective that makes me feel better and safer then I should be able to look at and make these memes yanno
Ariane Belley Most of the memes I see are actually funny but some people can take it too far. Triggers are different for everyone tho so some people will get triggered some won’t.
Agree completely. No one making these jokes is claiming that that behavior is ACTUALLY okay. If you look at a meme with a girl posing with the caption ‘how i look in the mirror when i havent eaten all morning’ and you go ‘Oh hey maybe I should do that!’ You’re an idiot and there is no blame you can put on the creator of the meme.
Humor is often linked to shared experience. -Bo burnham
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this was the best reference for this topic omg
Like a guy gets up and says “Have you noticed that public restrooms have really inefficient hand dryers?”.
Being a survivor of a suicide attempt and suffering for Dysthimia and Generalized anxiety Disorder, these memes are pretty darn funny and a good way to cope
I hope you don’t mind me asking, but what is Dysthimia?
@@oonooooooooo it's another word for high functioning depression.
I'm glad you survived a suicide attempt !
I thought they were funny too 😳...
Fronk Your Death
I like you pfp😏
I think that memes are way different than merchandise because it's not capitalizing on people's pain. The goal is to entertain or to cope, not to sell a product. That being said, I agree that some memes take it too far.
Natalie Parker Sometimes, laughter is the best medicine.
Natalie Parker totally agree with this.
Memes feel like a community almost.
Like we can come together and try and laugh about our pain.
I agree but some do take it to far like some are super inappropriate or offensive
I kinda get mad when people just call those with mental illnesses "edgy teens"
I’ve been an edgy teen for 12 years Karen. When am I valid?
Especially if they just are legit mentally ill teens instead of just being "edgy"
Ye that leads them “edgy teens” to do things that don’t help them in any way (knowing from my friends family member)
Or when someone opens up about their depression and then the person they tell is just like “EdGy 14 YeaR OLd GiRlS WhO LisTeN To BiLLie EiLiSh”
@@threecheersforsweetcheesew3231 ugh I hate that. Honestly Billie's music has helped me quite a bit
I love depression memes and anxiety memes, they helped me realize I wasn't alone and they actually made me feel better.
Fawna Lee same
Fawna Lee Most of them are funny and they’re kind of like a coping mechanism...I feel much better about the fact I might have social anxiety (I’m not diagnosed yet) However there are some offensive ones but most are good.
same
Fawna Lee I hate them because I don't give a shit about how people feel. I don't want to see that garbage.
Same here but the thing that annoys me is when people who don’t suffer from mental illnesses share them acting like they do or not taking them seriously, like it’s all a big joke. People then think it’s ok to make jokes about depression and stuff because they’ve seen it all over social media and not take any of it seriously. I’ve experienced it first hand. Idk that’s just me aha
Bpd actually stands for borderline personality disorder, not bipolar disorder
i thought it stood for both
No joke, when I was depressed in 2016 one of my only ways of coping was making jokes about it online. I remember I could literally not supress the impulse to talk about it but I was also too afraid/ashamed to talk about it seriously so I made fun of myself
angela g same
But like, rn 24/7
me too
angela g 😕 Um, you’re not depressed anymore?
s a m e
The s*lf harm meme was definitely crossing the line, ive struggled with self harm for 6 years and the people sharing it majority arent people who have suffered and then becomes a joke about self harm
Yeah I definitely agree, because I've struggled with it for a too, and it's like jokes are funny. But that is too much though and people who share that are just kind of like cutting your wrist is a trendy funny thing now, While I do laugh at a lot of dark depression jokes because they make me less like a freak which I have been told countless times by my mother that one went way too far
i struggled with it for 2 to 3 years and i think theyre funny hferfdskfhjs
I agree somewhat. But I've struggled with self-harm since I was 11 and I'm currently 7 months clean at age 16. I found that one extremely funny. It wasn't crossing the line. It was subjectively appealing to those who find it funny.
I feel like memes about self harm cross the line, because when you self harm, you don’t want to be constantly reminded that you do that, which makes all the memes not funny. I think that experience varies, but people should try to be less triggering with that topic, because you can trigger a person who self harms very easily.
I thought it was hilarious and I have suffered with rather severe self harm.
and bpd is not bipolar is borderline personality disorder and one of the symptoms is “splitting” which is why theres the banana split
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What does "splitting" mean?
Helena de Troya Splitting is one symptom of BPD where they suddenly hate a person if they hurt them in some way, it can be a very minor thing that makes them hate that person. Just as quickly, the person they split on can become ‘perfect’ or an ‘angel’ if they do something positive for the borderline person. Most borderline patients have this symptom, not all though. This isn’t me trying to tear BPD sufferers down by the way, it’s just what splitting is
Kate Stephens Wow, thanks for your answer, it were really helpful ^-^
borderline personality disorder is no longer recognized by the psychiatric community. The proper term is Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). BPD is most commonly associated with Bipolar Depression (a.k.a. Manic Depression)
I like mental health memes when they’re at the expense of the illness, not the person. By this I mean, making fun of my anxiety because calm down brain, you wylin. Versus memes that emphasize that there’s “something wrong with me” or suicide based or perpetuating that those thoughts, emotions, and feelings are rational if that makes sense.
Shane: ghosts aren't real
Sarah: he is a ghost hunter
Marina Stark Well he is hunting for ghosts
HAHA EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT
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I love dark messed up memes but i hate the ones about suicide. The ones that are like “omg i want to die”. Its not funny, its a serious issue.
It just annoys me because it sounds like some bitchy princess type girl when you look at the profiles. I’m not saying they can’t get depressed, but it’s like they’re blending true mental illness with their angsty hangups.
I'm so confused every time I hear someone with an American accent say the word aunt because all I can ever hear is "I became an ant". Then I think about it for a second and realise what they actually said.
N00RA96 same 😂😂
SAME
I'm american and I was confused with her saying it that way lmao
I wasn't paying attention and I heard the word ant and I was like wowie what is going on
I did the exact same thing haha which is weird because as a northerner I pronounce it in the same way
I'm American and I thought the same thing, I was so confused
Are you sure that BPD stands for bipolar disorder? Because I'm pretty sure it means Borderline Personality Disorder.
As someone who's suffered from depression and severe anxiety for 10+ years, I've found that joking about it really helps. It makes me feel normal. To be honest I don't think I'd be here now if I didn't have a dark sense of humour about it. I know they are serious topics, which definitely do still need to be discussed in order to remove the stigma but you have to have a laugh now and again. I wouldn't say I laugh at every meme based around those topics but just ones I find very relatable.
I agree that the memes on self harm (which I never knew existed before) are very distasteful as they could be triggering to sufferers. And I feel it's alright to joke about depression and wishing you were dead etc, but it's completely different to joke about inflicting harm upon oneself. Same goes with the eating disorder memes, maybe people with eating disorders can relate and find them funny but some are just way too harsh and remind me of the thinspo hashtag on tumblr.
At the end of the day humour is subjective and everyone's taste is different. But some people just need to learn where the line is and what could actually be detrimental to some people who genuinely suffer from mental illness.
This is exactly it for me. I have depression and general anxiety disorder for most of my life (from the time I was 12, and now I'm 33) and I don't think I would be here today if I didn't have that dark sense of humor. I agree there is a line though; I used to cut in high school, and back then I couldn't look at those pictures because I knew it would trigger me. I also think that whole meme about "suicidal people are just angels that want to go home" is super bullshit. If it's actively prompting hurting yourself, or someone else, it's definitely harmful and distasteful. But I don't see anything wrong with wearing an "Anxiety Queen" t-shirt, especially if that's how you feel.
To me, it's owning your illness, and not letting it own or define you. Yes, you have a problem, but you're working on it, and trying to make yourself better. Life is going to be way harder if can't laugh at yourself.
And I have my down days, where I feel like things keep getting thrown in my face, and I'm in a down-turn, and I feel like the world is against me, and then I see a meme or a shirt, and I'm like, "wow, that's so shitty." But again, I just feel like it's the universe trying to tell me to feel shitty/sad/bad. So I take a step back, breathe, and remember that (as corny as it sounds) it's a bad day, not a bad life.
I'm in control; not my depression, not my anxiety. I can choose to let it consume me, or I can choose to turn it into something that we can (and should) be talking more openly about.
Wishing you all the best with your depression and anxiety.
Honestly, I think memes around depression and anxiety really just remind people who suffer from it that we're not alone, we're not the only person in the world who's ever felt a certain way. And I think that's really important to remember since mental illness can be so incredibly isolating. I also self harmed when I was younger and while I wouldn't be triggered by posts about it, I still don't want to see it and be reminded of that horrible period in my life.
That's brilliant that you're in control of it now. That kind of thing takes years and a lot of hard work and effort to overcome. I've been in and out of therapy since I was 15 and only now do I kind of have my shit together. There are still plenty of bad days, weeks, months but I always have to remind myself that I won't feel bad forever. I agree, you can definitely choose to wallow in it and not get out of bed in the morning or then choose to get up and try to have some what of a productive day. I've had to set up a little morning routine for myself to combat the depression and have found that it really helps shaping my day.
Wishing all the best for you too x
Pro recovery memes = Good, funny
“Depression is cool” anti-recovery memes = Annoying, not funny
I love mental health memes, but you can tell when they're made by a sufferer laughing with their situation and a non- sufferer laughing at the ill. There lies the distinction of whether or not they're funny or offensive
I sometimes get a feeling that the person hasn't really experienced it, but I'm not sure how to pinpoint it. How can you tell?
quifflesnix yeah it’s kinda like period memes. We all know it’s terrible but joke about it because it makes us feel a little bit better or like your not the only one feeling it.
xoShiningKrystlexo offensive things arent wrong!
Um I suffer from several mental illnesses and I've never been offended by a meme about it. They're memes, aka jokes. No point in being offended over them
Edwin and Mina's bich EXACTLY!
I'm on tumblr and I see those memes all the time.
And what I want to say is:
Most, if not all of those are being made by people who are actually mentally ill. That site is actually really open and tolerant of people with mental disorders, as folks don't have to hide it, and it's not alienating. They know how it feels to be ill, and they're making relatable edits about.
I do like posts like this, because they help me to cope. I make fun of my disorders all the time and it helps me a lot to apply humor to a bad situation.
Now, some of those you presented can be really bad and offensive, but I haven't seen really extremes ones that often. There is definitely more of the funny, lighthearted ones.
In summary, I think as long as they don't go to far, those memes are really funny, relateable and definitely have place on the internet.
SocietyNeedsToCrumble agree
Doesn't BPD stand for Boderline Personality Disorder? Not Bi-Polar.
Bluestar Thunderclan where’s the letter “d” then?
@@deadmaggots8903 The abbreviation on bi-polar is most commonly BD. This is because bipolar is used as one word. It can be abbreviated to BPD but in the context of the "meme" it was referring to a banana split which also refers to a symptom of Boderline Personality Disorder called "splitting".
I was definitely confused, I have bpd and I wasn’t sure if splitting was a symptom of bipolar or not.
Yeah BPD is borderline personality disorder. The joke is that the ice cream is a banana split and it refers to "splitting" which is a term used with people who have BPD.
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pretty sure the banana split one relates to borderline not bipolar bc i refer to bpd as borderline personality disorder [i'm diagnosed with both] and a symptom of it is 'splitting' lol
sour angel I have both too. You are correct BPD is Borderline Bipolar is just that Bipolar. I also have both, your strong emotions from BPD are usually environmental, caused or triggered by something, and with Bipolar is more chemical. Your brain just isn't working as it should. ❤
Wish you well on your recovery. ❤
peachgirlx ♡♡♡ you as well! ♡♡♡
I have BPD too. A really shitty disorder to live with but the memes weirdly help me :p
Saigen Wallaby yeah I didn't find them to be bad lol it's not that deep!
Ye same
And jt also said bpd , while bipolar is just BD or bipolar
I suffer from mental illness and I like those memes, humour is the best coping mechanisms
Imo if you've gone through something traumatic you have every right to joke about it
Also bpd is borderline, not bipolar (bd)
Exactly...!!
In my opinion, if you don't know anything or haven't experienced that mental illnesses at all. Just keep your mouth shut. I have Epilepsy disorder & I truly can't stand when ppl make cruel offensive stupid jokes about it.
Mental illness merch is disgusting, agreed. But mental illness memes? Sign me up xD
I love these, as someone with severe mental illnesses I used to think they were extremely offensive, but as things have gotten worse strangely these have gotten funnier? At some point you kinda have to laugh at it, it's the only way I've found to cope with things you can't change (like for me, bipolar).
Also eating disorder memes are just really fucking funny to me???? When I was going through anorexia, they were the only things that kept me alive
I love mental memes and don't really care if they're offensive or triggering tbh ._. Maybe I'm just insensitive
I think 75% of these comments are sensitive. Just because that’s not their coping mechanism doesn’t mean ours is invalid (diagnosed with chronic fatigue at 13, anxiety at 12 and am in the process of getting diagnosed for ocd and clinical depression) maybe it’s because I’m young and built up a tolerance.
Same. I thought I was just a bad person😂
Nobody says that your coping mechanisms are not valid but if other people are bothered by them then their opinions should matter too. Besides, most of the comments say that they love these memes but agree that they can be very extreme.
Sara Anne but you should care if they’re triggering, things that trigger meltdowns are serious. If something triggers a panic attack for example, it’s not so easy to ”not care”. I understand that some people use it as coping mechanism and they probably are okay with it BECAUSE THEY DON’T get triggered by it. Usually, when something triggers a meltdown it’s not really not enjoyable to experience - at all.
Same, but I don't really share them and that's why I don't care as much if they are triggering. But if it is kinda bloody, gory, or likely to trigger I think a TW should be put up.
I'm ok with mental illness memes
I think they are a good coping mechanism
it's just stuff like "triggered!1!" and "autistic person" memes that annoy me
Same.
I always come across an autism meme. It's just that the ones I come across are either satirical (most likely an autistic person did this meme) or rude, offensive, and completely unfunny except for certain people (the people who think the r-slur is okay tend to make those memes).
the ice cream one doesn't mean bipolar disorder it means borderline personality disorder, and it's a banana split because split is a term for when you irrationally turn on someone you love
Probably an unpopular opinion, but actually I think you are the one solidifying stereotypes within the mentally ill community. Memes can be funny and allow people to relate efficiently. Like you said, even without certain disorders, most people have experienced some of the emotions or symptoms that are associated with it. It allows us to relate to each other, in a light, easy to understand, and efficient way. You, on the other hand, come off in what I would consider a somewhat polarizing fashion. Reaffirming the stereotype that non-neurotypical people are "Hysterical, overly sensitive, easily offended special snowflakes that are super delicate, cant take a joke, and need special treatment" Memes on the other hand, in my eyes, allow people to relate and laugh and realize that we're all just normal people with different struggles, without attacking people forcing them to become defensive, leading to more and more stigma instead of using a shared emotion to come together and show we are not so different. I am not, as a disclaimer trying to make the claim that you are ANY of the things above, nor that you were trying to be malicious or harmful, just trying to explain how this kind of content may be more damaging than you might believe, possibly even more so than the content you were condemning. Up of course to a point. This does not, of course, apply to any memes created outside of the mentally ill community or anything glorifying it, just the ones that are normalizing it or talking about in in a lighter way.
You say your too old to appreciate them but I think you're just too mature and since you're so passionate about mental health you want to help them, it can bother people who want to help others when those same people make fun of their problems.
I love depression memes, but somtimes it's just too relatable to be funny especially the squidward one
I was so confused, because I thought you became an ant 😂
firefox yeah and than I realized that she meant aunt 😂
THAT'S NOT BIPOLAR DISORDER THAT'S BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDER
As someone with bpd, these kinds of memes help me cope and not have a breakdown, but someone without bpd won't understand so :V
"These memes are offensive and not funny" 🖕
i love these memes and use them as a coping mechanism.
When you said “I became an aunt” I heard “I became an ant” 🐜 confusing
girl, bpd = borderline personality disorder, not bipolar
and she says she has a major in psychology
I have bpd, Ptsd, anxiety and depression, and I personally think that the memes are relatable and funny in a dark way. But although people may not go through what I do, I dont mind if people are able to relate and find the memes funny.
I think it does bring light to mental illness..
Edit: I had not like the memes that she showed that are potentially triggering, they are disgusting imo.
how did u get ptsd may u tell me? or u not Wanted, Im apolgy if you Are not comfotable !
@@sachikobroomfield316 She probably doesn’t want to talk about it cause I don’t like talking about it as it’s triggering. You get bpd from a traumatic experience same with bpd. So they might have come in hand in hand 🖐🏻
I’ve been seeing a shit ton of tweets with like 50k+ likes recently that are like “ice coffee is a meal replacement” and “me after not eating for an entire day” I HATE it so much because 90% of the people laughing at it will never experience true e.d struggles, they won’t loose their hair or be exhausted 24/7 etc
I'm diagnosed with four mental illnesses and honestly memes about all of them make me laugh (one of the illnesses being depression so I'm proud I can laugh at stuff still)
i dont find them offensive i adore them they actually make me laugh but not in a bad evil way thats just me
(I went through your 'Psychology' playlist so hopefully you haven't already done this - I think you've touched on it in a previous video however).
But I think a video about the accounts on social media that are popularized by mental illness. ie. social cutters - the people who post thier" cutting" on instagram. I find they fall in line with people who have accounts based around things like #thinspo
I think it might be interesting to see if it's moreso "this is a way to cope" or "this is glorifying mental illness".
Splitleaf exactly
I hate those accounts. I blame them in part for why I started self harming. I was a young, impressionable 13 year old, I was feeling upset, remembered that I saw people on Instagram posting cutting photos and thought that might be something I could try. And it just went downhill from there. Don't fucking post those photos online. Or if you do, put that shit on private. It pisses me the hell off.
+littlepaperjellyfish
same here, I was like 13-14 too and those accounts fucked me up- especially the thinspo ones
Yeah, you've hit the nail on the head. It's cutspo and depresspo, etc. It's Al good for people joking about their own but there's a time and place and respect that should be applied. You know, pretend like you operate in a society.
Always love your commentary with these sorts of videos. You make your opinions very clear but also allow others to feel differently which I really appreciate.
I find a lot of the memes to be very general/light hearted so I don't have an issue with many of them (like the ones you showed at the beginning) but there are definitely ones that set me off.
cw below: eating disorders
But then I have SEVERE issues with others like the "skinny legend" trend 1. why are we associating thinness with "greatness" for lack of a better term, there are a million ways to appreciate someone without referring to a body characteristic 2. it desensitizes people to harmful phrases associated with disordered eating? for example, i saw a youtuber with millions of subscribers say "we're going to skip breakfast this morning because we are skinny legends" LIKE .... WHY WOULD YOU OUTRIGHT PROMOTE THAT ITS NOT FUNNY. i also saw another video of a young girl strutting around like no tomorrow and someone captioned it with "me looking in the mirror after not eating all day". it's extremely harmful, triggering, trivializing and stigmatizing and i genuinely don't understand how anyone can contribute to this trend.
i think a bunch of these memes are funny and relatable, but others cross the line. great video!! xx
emmmabooks Yesss Emma!
Who are you to draw the line where jokes should stop though? Everyone draws their own line for yourself. You don't get to decide what someone else thinks is funny. You can't tell me not to laugh at a joke about a trauma I've experienced, just like you can't tell someone who's never gone through it not to laugh at it. Doesn't work like that.
tasha b she just give her opinion, she never tells you or anybody to think like her
with the post with the video of the little girl in heels, if you're referring to a certain tweet i think you might be, then she's deleted it - myself and loads of other current or former ED'd people told her it was triggering and insensitive, and I just went to see if it was the same post you mentioned and it's deleted. though I can't say if this was a repost or if it was reposted after she tweeted it, but still, it's something.
the skinny legend trend (correct me if I'm wrong) was started by Trisha Paytas who's a bigger girl so she says it almost jokingly about herself
If the temporary tattoo one had Jeffree Star as the photo it would be even more messed up because he got his tattoos to cover his scars.
It's ours to joke about, just like our bruises are ours to poke at and others to keep away from.
Femke Boon did u steal this from a slam poem
Katie Ryan yes, yes I did actually. It's called 'rape joke' and it's really good. The girls who performed it are very talented :)
I was just about to say, good reference
self-diagnosing was such a big thing when i was younger that because i knew how dumb it was it took me many years to get help for issues i actually had
I love these memes. I personally find it almost comforting to be able to laugh about the mental illnesses that I have/had. I can’t speak for everyone because I have never been triggered by even the most graphic of images, which I think that I am lucky for. However, I think there needs to be a general understanding that people 99% of the time will not be trying to trigger anyone or cause genuine offence. That’s the key. Even if you find it offensive I think we need to give those that share them the benefit of the doubt in the vast majority of cases!
I'm just literally laughing my ass off about the memes and this girl is so offended like I know some memes can get pretty far but like she's taking it too serious or I'm just a horrible person that I'm laughing at this
For some people these memes can be offensive
idk like the one about being hit by a truck is pretty relatable to me but also nice video, i love your videos on mental illness cause you’re part of the small group that actually takes mental illness seriously
~When you're trying to be politically correct~
Some of the memes annoy me because I can always tell when people who don't actually understand mental illness are making them. but that's not the majority I think the majority of people making them actually are dealing with them. I think the funniest ones are the ones that address specific symptoms rather than just being like "depression anxiety OCD :((". I like the symptom ones because there are a lot of things that I have felt/thought/done that I've never seen anyone else talk or write about, OR something I've done that I didn't even realize was a symptom. So those ones are both insightful and depending on the picture or whatever paired with it, can be pretty hilarious and relatable imo
Honestly I love the mental illness memes because I use them to cope and they help me feel better... it’s not that deep, they are memes made by people who are feeling like that.
I feel like its a way of coping, while it might lead to self pitting💛awesome video of always
Btw the banana split meme was in reference to 'splitting' which is a borderline personality disorder symptom, which is what BPD is. BPD isn't Bipolar
Aside from those obviously disgusting self harm memes and disorder memes, I feel like the overall problem with these memes is that they're so commonly shared by mentally healthy individuals that they just reduce mental illness to a joke. Though there are a lot of genuine ones that come from people who are actually mentally ill and I find relatable and helpful for coping.
Edit: 9:39 I'm pretty sure bpd means borderline personality disorder and not bipolar disorder.
Fernando ❤❤❤ I get so frustrated when its called Bipolar. They are not the same thing. 😥
I think people get confused because of the acronym. But yeah it's totally different.
Imma be totally honest. Ive never sen that squidward one but kinda really relate.
Eunice Chung They’re all relatable as hell, these are made by people who are experiencing these disorders and they help tbh
Congrats on being an aunt 💕💕
9:38 BPD stands for borderline personality disorder.
I've lately been seeing ones that are like "when people tell me I can't have iced coffee as a meal replacement" like why is that ok to promote? that's not the only one I've seen. I've seen them a lot lately. it's triggering and literally promoting unhealthy behaviors
Amelia Duty like its trying to promote an eating disorder? Maybe. Haven't seen that around yet but it's kinda relatable
Ice coffee really feels me up like a quick breakfast/lunch. When its more specific like, "black coffee is my meal" it would be more harming since its something I've done and others have done to lose weight in an unhealthy way. Guess it depends where the person who made the joke is coming from.
Andrea Velez nah, it's harmful. the tweet has a picture with it saying something about them trying not to let you be skinny. it's just telling people to skip meals and being skinny is all that's important.
here's the tweet if anyone is interested in seeing what it says exactly Check out @stylestruIy’s Tweet: twitter.com/stylestruIy/status/987469908215783425?s=09
Amelia Duty oh yikes. in general i understand memeing about iced coffee and coffe is an appetite suppressant but that meme you linked is awful! 😟 reminds me of pro-ana tumblr
I saw that one earlier and it reeeeally bugged me. Joking about feelings is a lot less triggering than joking about behaviors.
Okay, so mental health memes can be great. (Especially for people who use humour as a coping mechanism, or in helping others feel less alone in their struggle or even just in tackling the stigma around mental health illnesses.)
However, besides being really triggering sometimes, joking about suicide normalises it, leading people to believe that it’s not a big deal. So they don’t effectively seek out help because they aren’t worried about it . These jokes also make people want to have a mental health illness because they want to join this exclusive Club™️ that shares all these inside jokes. And sometimes they also perpetuate harmful stereotypes which feeds into the stigma around this topic. The same goes with eating disorders and personality disorders. If these things are treated like jokes, that’s all they remain.
I thought that I wasn’t gonna that think any of these are bad because I have a dark sense of humor and joke a lot about my depression, anxiety and being suicidal. But I actually agreed with you on pretty much everything, I hadn’t seen any of the bad memes that were showed and were at the end of the video. Especially the eating disorder ones are just not funny to me. I’ve survived an eating disorder and that’s the one thing that I don’t really joke about or find funny at all, because just hearing other people talk about ed or losing weight can be very triggering to someone suffering or recovering. The jokes seem to me a bit triggering and showing ed in a light way just feels wrong to me
Ella l actual dark humor not just dark humor
Mental illness memes help me cope and feel better tbh
Your videos are amazing, well done!
I've actually saved that first squiward meme and I like to look at it and 'hm same'. Up until that one I liked the memes you showed. For me it's not even that they're funny most of the time. Its just that they're relatable.
That being said, memes are not my only coping mechanism, they're just one of many. Because I do try to take care of myself.
Honestly you can kinda tell when they're made by neurotypicals. I'm not a fan of ones that encourage or normalise really unhealthy or dangerous habits.
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Lotfi Mebarki poooooodzzzz!
"On"
"Less on"
I'm pretty sure I shared a meme along those lines shortly after I was diagnosed with bipolar
I have a question for you. What is your opinion on the youtube/music artist dodie Clark? (doddleoddle) She always is sharing things about mental illness and her personal experiences, but it's not necessarily to educate people. I personally really like her and find her relatable. Her songs and literature and videos have helped me a lot, I was just wondering if you believe it's healthy or not. Thanks :)
NightlyThoughts I bloody love dodie
Dodie actually saved my life.
My opinion is that Dodie definitely overshares sometimes, and every now and then it even may come across as if she is glorifying mental illness. An example of this is when she said "Do we create because we're depressed, or are we depressed because we create?". Obviously this is pretty problematic, because it can make artists feel like they need to be depressed to be an actual artist.
To me, this only shows that Dodie is human and she makes mistakes too. I feel like she often uses social media to vent, and that is a dangerous path to walk. I still really really really love her and she gets me through my hard days.
For many people (including me) her videos are a safe space and I know we all love her. But I did want to say that dodie isn't perfect.
I think it’s a fine line between making light of your mental illness (which can help people cope) and making it seem “quirky”. I see a lot of people thinking it’s quirky or funny to be in a bad mental state and memes definitely contribute to that.
A lot of these memes (especially the suicide ones) really bother me, even if they were made by someone with a mental illness and/or suicidal thoughts.
I've seen hundreds of "Ha ha, I want to die" posts on Tumblr.
I think it normalises suicidal thoughts to a scary degree.
And people can use them as an unhealthy coping mechanism by wallowing in this negativity and doing nothing else to improve their mental health.
Also I think it can also be linked to the anti-recovery side of Tumblr, which is super super extreme and of course most who use those kind of memes aren't like that I'm sure.
Anyway excellent video and very well-made, hope you're having a great day! :)
Nerdtrashv1 I agree! I deal with a lot of psychological issues and when my sister shows me a meme about them (or mentions one when I am venting about my issues) I feel like it minimizes what I’m feeling and I am honestly wondering now if I’m just overreacting and everyone feels the same way or what??? But then people tell me my feelings aren’t normal and I should see a therapist...? I have no idea what to think and I already have a difficult time viewing my self destructive behavior as “bad”.
I don’t feel like these memes bring attention to any mental illness. Making a joke out of something doesn’t bring attention (at least not the right type) to it. If anything it makes it much easier to sweep under the rug.
I understand some people use it as a coping mechanism but eh, i always feel very uncomfortable (even physically sick) when I see them.
Ani S
I am so sorry you're going through that, and I don't think you're overreacting.
I have found taking control of what content I look at online very helpful for my mental health.
I watch RUclips videos I find interesting and that make me happy.
I stay away from content that's just going to make me angry and upset.
I use Tumblr for cool art and silly pictures, staying away from the toxic sides.
I think making an effort to choose to consume positive media could help you too.
I hope you get the help you need and that you have a great day :)
I’m actually really put off by even the more lighthearted memes but especially the ones mentioning suicide. I feel like while they don’t spark any action in me personally they often trigger feelings of hopelessness and anxiety and never actually help me out. If I want to cope with humor I’ll do it on my own terms by joking with loved ones
Julia Gross
I completely understand.
A lot of them don't promote recovery but are just like "Welp, this is my life is and I'm stuck with it".
And I don't think that's helpful.
I hope you have a good day :)
I very much agree with this. Since none of my friends attend the same school as I do, I've found myself stuck with a group of people who joke about these things constantly, and it really bothers me. I try my hardest every single day to stay positive. I've even started bringing a wee journal with me which helps me get through the day. I write little positive notes and sketch in it, all the more so now because I just can't stand being around my "mates".
And as you said, it normalizes it. It's even come to a point in my school where, should you not joke about these things, you're considered an outsider. I think that's despicable. Mental health is extremely important, and joking about it, even if it's a way of coping, is not helping things move forward. We need to talk to each other about these issues. Not simply agree on a general sense of pessimism, depression, anxiety, etc etc etc.
I have an eating disorder and I found the being honest with your therapist one VERY relatable but I can also understand why it’s on the touchy side. I also understand that I can look at it from a healthy standpoint because I am in recovery
For me i send them to my friend who also has mental illness and it makes us laugh, it's a way for our illnesses to not be as serious as they truly are. Everyone has different thoughts on these memes.
I have borderline personality disorder which is pretty much hated on, but find memes a stupid silly way to make myself laugh. Everything it subjective though.
I don't have issues when people with clinically diagnosed mental illness make a joke every once in awhile but I hate when people get sad ONE TIME and then claim they have depression and feel the need to flex it.
I think, that humor not only serves to make people laugh, many times it makes visible some problems/Things not normalized of society (in this case of mental illnesses), also rarely a joke that doesn't have a bit of tragedy it's funny. This doesn't mean that there are no offensive memes or that some of them apparently just intend to hurt. But (and I say it as someone who has more than one mental illness) I think we should learn to cope with seeing this content all over the internet, because it's everywhere and we can't stop it, also we shouldn't. All of us have a space to express ourself. We don't have to censure this content, just inform people so they can form a point of view. That's why I like your channel, good video, girl.
This is a really hard topic to cover, and I think you did it really well.
For me, it's like this. It's offensive if it's laughing at someone with mental illness, or making light of it in a dismissive way. That's a clear line- the same can be said of most kinds of jokes, in my opinion. Laugh up, not down. The other half of it is, I don't personally want it if it's detrimental to my wellness. Some of those memes reinforce a world view that I am actively trying to change- I have an eating disorder, and I don't want it in control any more. So anything portraying it that way, no matter the intention, is unwelcome. I don't want that to be my truth any more, but that won't change if I keep reinforcing it.
And, to clarify, there's a huge difference between "offensive" and "unwelcome". When I say "offensive" I mean, I don't think anyone should be making the joke. It is, inherently, bad. When I say "unwelcome" I mean, it's not what, I, personally, want. It could be fine for someone else, but I'm not about to go seeking it out or anything.
i have a whole tumblr blog dedicated to eating disorder memes. honestly that's my healthiest way to cope with it
Devon Eisenberg my friend has one too
The first few ones I found funny, but most of them just pissed me off. Also, I know this is off topic, but your hair looks gorgeous!!
The banana split one is actually about borderline (bpd stands for borderline personality disorder) and people with bpd do a thing called splitting (also known as black and white thinking) which means you either think something or someone is the best or the worst, so the meme was pretty much just a play on words, and as someone who has bpd I thought it was kinda funny but that's just my opinion
Being someone who suffers from mental illnesses and has suffered with them for many years, I sometimes get a kick out of seeing mental illness/health memes but there definitely is a line that shouldn't be crossed. As you mentioned, being too specific can almost be a form of attacking or mocking someone with that specific illness. When it comes to the light hearted memes that are only ever broad and touch on feelings that everyone has felt, I am glad those are around because it's nice to see that other people are experiencing these things and are openly showing it by reposting/retweeting the meme. Of course there are people who aren't as open with their mental illness and can feel like they're being mocked with even the general memes. One thing that I really do appreciate about the generalized memes is that it helps to open up a conversation about mental illness.
i see that the most of the time people without mental illnesses tag each other in these memes and it's not good. a lot off teenage girls think they have depression because of they have 'too much' to learn in school or they have social anxiety because they didn't go out one day. i don't have any mental illness but in these situations i think they're disrespectful for the people with mental illness
I totally get your point but, I think in your comments here you highlight a huge problem with the stigma surrounding mental illness. You don’t know if these girls that you talk about have depression or not. You’re looking at them and making your own judgement thinking no they can’t have depression or anxiety. I don’t agree with self diagnosis necessarily, but if people are feeling this way or think they may be depressed etc we have a responsibility to take them seriously, not pass judgement. This isn’t me in any way attacking you because I know this is a view shared by you and so many others but I think this is an issue that does need addressing.
There really isn't any need for the sarcastic reply. I was in no way rude and I pointed out that I wasn't trying to attack you. No matter what you say, unfortunately, you can never really know that someone around you isn't mentally ill. It just may be something that they aren't able to share and mental illnesses do present themselves in different ways. For example, atypical depression is the most commonly diagnosed type of depression. I believe it's important to be aware that many people may outwardly seem fine but they really aren't.
PastelRose I don't think they were trying to sound sarcastic, I think they were genuinely saying thank you for giving them a new perspective. I kind of agree with both your points though
personally i love mental illness memes. it makes me feel not as alone, and helps me cope. i like making fun of myself because it helps me lighten up
I agree with you. I like some of the memes, like in the beginning of your video. It has always been a coping mechanism for me. But once they talk about specific disorders and suicide it just isn't funny. I just picture kids seeing these memes and sharing them but something feels so off. I'm all for destigmatizing mental illness but to me, especially thinking of young people and undiagnosed people, I think things like suicide and EDs are sort of normalized in memes and they may develop a mindset that those are the answers to their problems. Does that make sense? I know people who have shared those memes but never seek professional help. It's scary to think that these memes could really be their only influence. Maybe I'm being dramatic.
"Why do you come in, if you want to go straight back out?" MY CAT OMG
honestly i find these memes fine; memes are just that - sort of in a satirical way. obvs certain people can hide behind them and make themselves worse but other than that yeah
also bpd isn't bipolar its borderline
tbh as a borderline i relate so idk for me memes are just memes
kermit just plain sexist but you know theres always at least one
last thing - i don't think its the people with the illnesses problem or fault necessarily that those who don't have them are taking these to be relatable for themselves and creating them themselves etc if that makes sense? like, its not our job to fix everything or whatever its those who aren't affected by it and joke about it and stigmatise etc like with everything they are the ones who should not be crossing the line and being respectful etc not ours
I don’t like how mental illness memes normalize mental illness and suicidal thoughts. They’re not funny to me, they make me feel even more down on myself, and when I am feeling suicidal, I’m never taken seriously. People tend to laugh and say “me too!”
I actually run an instagram meme account where I make a lot of memes about my mental health and they've been pretty popular before. I also am currently finishing my senior thesis (woo!) and it's all about how memes about mental health effect someones mental health. And out of 1,000 participants, people with depression and anxiety found solace in memes about their mental health and very few found them offensive. (Not saying some aren't offensive, just that I'm doing my whole thesis on this and people with mental health issues love these memes!)
That is so cool. I hope your thesis & everything went great.
I honestly found a lot of the memes funny & relatable too, & I feel like it helps to see them because you realize you aren't alone.
I work in mental health as well as having mental health issues & imo having a laugh about things can really help. I've known patients with really dark issues are often the ones to make really dark jokes about their experience, & I do the same about mine so I'm not about to tell them to stop.
I really enjoy those memes, they helped me when I had a really bad time and I didn't feel so alone
You are actually completely right that suicide jokes aren't funny. People with suicidal thought get easily triggered into actually doing it. If it's not okay for journalists to talk to much about it when someone commits suicide, why would it be okay to publish such triggering memes about it.
I actually have pretty dark humour, but this just isn't that funny to me. The squidward one is kinda relatable though
I have struggeled with suicidal thoughts a lot / still do and I think they‘re hilarious
I understand, but you are not everyone. I study journalism and we have a completely different course on how to report about suicide just because it's such a triggering topic. There's figures that prove that by describing a suicide the ratings go up. For example, after the singer of Linkin park commited suicide, papers discribed the way he did it which is unacceptable, there were so much copycats. These memes can be dangerous. I'm not saying y'all should stop making them, but think about what you're doing.
Veronika Meister i mean I find memes about suicide to be funny and I’ve had suicidal thoughts just because a few people don’t enjoy an edgy joke doesn’t make it a bad one
You know, there are different people. It's easy to avoid most if not all of these memes, if you don't like them. You can't say "most suicidal people wouldn't laugh at *insert a suicidal meme*", since you don't even know 10% of the suicidal people all around the world (neither do i lmao).
Veronika Meister same
I think these memes don't belong where anyone could see them without warning, but there are definitely communities of people for whom they are enjoyable and useful as coping mechanisms.
Lol the first meme was Shane from Buzzfeed Unsolved. He’s pretty funny.
Sarah during her break: ✨🌫🐜🌫✨
You’ve helped me so much I love you!!
The really specific ones all read as a cry for help to me.
Exactly, people make them to cope at times too.
Yo really off topic here but you’re nose is adorable hahaha
I feel like the problem is a lot of times young people start diagnosing themselves with mental illness or obsessing over it and it just bothers me. My brother has been diagnosed with several mental illnesses and struggles with it every day. I’m not sure if any of his diagnoses are accurate, but I still feel like he struggles with his mental health. I know a lot of people suffer from mental illness, but it angers me to see people obsess over it. I feel like some people want to suffer from mental illness idk. (I’ve never been diagnosed with anything so I don’t think I have much room to talk)
It makes people who are diagnosed by doctors look like big jokes. It's scary and not fun having mental illnesses. You just want to be normal and the people who are normal get to self diagnose and make it "fun".
i love your videos most of the time but i felt like the general tone of this was "i don't get it, it's not funny to me. also here are some bad points that will justify my personal dislike". which is like, i guess fine, to some extent, because it is in the end just your opinion, but i feel like there is a bias here, obviously these memes lose a lot of their value if you don't find them funny, i just feel like a lot of the time this bias discredits anything you say that may be important and actually a good point? it was pretty chaotic and not really backed up. but maybe i'm just seeing too much in a vid, maybe you just wanted to express these specific concerns. idk. the discussion in the comment section is gr8 tho
I think her psychology videos are mostly for people to start a discussion and not really "this is my opinion and its a fact".I mean it is a bias that these memes arent funny to her,I personally dont find them funny either but I know that people cope like this but I also think that this can lead to even more stigma towards mental illness.Im not an expert or anything and I dont have depression but I do feel depressed at this moment in my life so my case isnt really severe and I cant speak for everyone.
i might have phrased wrong. i am criticizing her opinion, or at least how she forms it/frames it in this video. she seems to only see the bad side and continuously downplays the positive things or people's opinions she doesn't agree with. her opinion is biased, because she uses arguements to justify her dislike and barely acknowleges the "other side", while you seem to acknowledge both.
Kata Tóth I think you’re exaggerating a bit, she has mentioned multiple times how this is only her opinion, she sees why this may help people, etc.
Memes have been one of the only things that have worked at destigmatizing mental illness. We aren't hiding how we feel and acting like we're okay all the time (most of us). We can relate to each other and have an open discussion about it more comfortably because we aren't scared to talk about it. I'm so candid about my depression and laughing it off and being like "yep it be like that" has really helped me and helps other peoples not feel like it's something they have to hide. Comedy and laughter is what really helps us through a lot of things. So I see no problem with these memes.
"maybe I'm just being sensitive"
Yeah, you are😂
Personally, I think these are really funny and not offensive in any way...They do actually help me a lot, but maybe that's just me.
I think you did a very good job at articulating your points and I really enjoyed hearing your perspective! it is a very nuanced topic and i think you expressed that very well and you're definitely not being too sensitive!!
I think the ed ones are the worst.
As someone with anorexia, I found them pretty funny tbh
Alexa H For me it’s too much
As someone with an eating disorder, those are my favorite (specifically if they're made by people who suffer from them) They make me feel so much better and understood
as someone who's recovering a ed, these memes helped and still do. they make me feel understood. humour is one of the biggest coping mechanisms. i always make these, i'll admit, shitty and uncalled for jokes but they've helped me so much. they're also flat out funny.
As someone with an ed too I found them unfunny. I can handle the depression ones but to me it’s too much.
But it’s okay, some people get triggered with different levels of things.
I always feel you articulate your videos & your opinion very well ! I’ve seen so many of these floating around and some of them I just didn’t give a second thought to probably because I guess it didn’t really bother or register in my head (?) but others made me uncomfortable and feel not okay because as you said it’s kind of making light of something serious.I think some are straight out offensive & inappropriate & shouldn’t even be out there.Like I know you can’t stop someone from sharing these but at the very minimal put trigger warnings and such because it could trigger or bother someone out there and that’s not fun to do or be in that situation.I also agree with everything that you said in this video
Oi, I've experienced all of these
And I'm just
Apparently not offended by any of this.
AND FOR ME-
The memes that hit closest to where it hurts
Are funniest to me?
Like
Some people are just tOo sensitive?
As someone who had an ED, I did find the eating disorder ones kinda funny and relatable. It's nice to know I'm not alone.