The EVH 5150 Iconic EL34 is HERE....
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I would definitely like an el34 and 6l6 comparison video
There is no sound difference between EL34 and 6L6 tubes. It has been debunked. The only difference would be if the amp circuitry is different. Pre-amp tubes could have a slight difference in tone, but these factors would contribute far less than the circuitry of the amp, and the amp speaker.
@@Grand_Alchemist so do those amps where you can switch between output tubes also change the rest of the circuit?
I respectfully disagree.
EL34’s and 6L6’s are different and have their own tone.
Hope you’re having a great day, G.A. 👍
Try a rectifier with 6L6 and EL34 then.
Prolly sounds way too similar
Would love to hear this amp compared to the original Iconic and the EVH 5150iii EL34
50w Stealth vs. EL34 Iconic comparison would be cool as well to see.
Wow!! I liked the 6L6 Iconic quite a bit, but this new EL34 sounds EVEN BETTER! As I'm getting older, I appreciate a warmer tone and this amp seems to deliver on that aspect. Really agressive, yet thicker, warmer, punchy, yet articulate.
My cousin has the og 5150 iconic, which sounds a bit weird. It sounds absolutely kick ass. Blends perfectly with my Marshall JCM2000 DSL.
The OG is the best imo
Really appreciate kyle sticking with the 7 string in demos.
6534+, 34Iconic and 5153EL34 comparison would be perfect
100% this + the original Iconic 🤘
Yep!
With the quickness
6534+ FTW
Great riffing. It really showcases this amp very well.
The EVH 5150 series of amps are really the best bang for your buck for a metal rock tube amp. So good. I want one along with a Revv Generator 120 MK3, ENGL Fireball and Diezel Herbert MK3 once I sell off some gear.
It somehow feels refreshing to see you do a demo rather than a blog ❤
75% of my videos are demos......
@@belligerentamateur algorithms 🤷♂️
Glad to hear this one isn't legitimately painfully shrill. It sounds really good, especially considering the price. Definitely puts it closer to competing with the Bugera 6262 in price. I hope whatever tweaks they made to make it listenable make their way to a model with a better looking color scheme.
"How could we make the Iconic even better?" daaaaamn.
Thanks Kyle for the content and playing, if I would put the Iconic EL-34 vs 6L6 which would you choose ?? Im playing with an EVH 5150 Lbx S right now and loving it but for gigging looking at the iconic but which one.....That thing sounds like a monster
i think bro loves his job
Love the channel. Could you do a few videos about amp maintenance? For example how to clean and do you need a cover? What are signs your amp needs to go to the repair shop? Again love the channel and enjoying your reviews.
Just got my 5150 iconic EL34 and wow, your spot on, great amp!! Thanks for the content brother, keep up the great work 🤟
6L6 Iconic vs. EL34 Iconic. love to see that shootout
Very tight in the mids. Sounds like what you’d expect out of a British high gain style amp. The iconics are very underrated amps. Still prefer a USA model 6505+ … nice rifffs and video Kyle 🤘🏽
Hey man, I’m looking forward to your Peavey 6534+ comparison, thanks!!!!!
The only bad wraps the iconic has received, is while using it with the iconic cab.
I run it through a marshall mode four cab and a marshall AV cab and it slays.
I'm here for all the green channel, overdrive mode love.
To be honest when I got my 6l6 Iconic I spent a lot of time just D Standard/Drop C with an 808x into the green overdrive and was getting the best modern high gain tones. They made that green channel way too good on that Iconic and it's hard to choose between it and the red channel sometimes.
One of the best tones you've gotten so far from the 5150 series
My original 5150 iconic is one of the best sounding amps I have plugged into. For the price, it’s amazing. Competing with amps that cost over double in price. Also, I was surprised to see it came with JJ 6l6 tubes.
I had the 6L6 Iconic head and 1×12" 40 watt combo..that combo amp was so heavy in weight..but this sounds great too..
Nice work, KB... I just realized i own about 16 different amps of all brand, size and wattage... And i dont own ANY EL34's... And im a fan of them... That has to change.
mannnnnnnn. If you go el34, make sure to get an amp that is voiced around them like a Marshall to get the most for your money!
sounds pretty fucking good, an ultimate comparison video of all yours 5150s would be really cool!
The beloved brown sound was solid state with diodes adding gain stages to the tubes. Every time you boost the front end with an overdrive pedal it is solid state circuitry being added to the gain stages. Use your ears, fingers and use whatever gets you the tone you want. Who cares what gets you there as long as you get there?
the original brown sound was produced by eddie van halen and it was the sound of a dimed marshall super lead with a variac bringing the voltage down signifcantly. No diodes were involved. Diodes came later with jose mods.
I played in Leeway NYC from 2010 to 2018. It was cool to hear you play some of the riffs 🙏🏻
Time changes absolutely nothing. True. This amp sounds great.
I prefer the Green channel on my 6L6 Iconics too. Great vid Kyle, was looking forward to hearing the 34 driven one. Thanx man!
This is the first amp demo I've seen/heard in a while that got me excited about a new amp.
Helps when you match it with a killer cab
Agreed. I have noticed that the iconic speakers tend to vary in sound though. I’ve played through 3-4 of the 4x12’s and the last one I played through sounded legit good, very “4x12 with greenbacks”.
I like the low tune riff tones !
I put EL34s in a Bugera 6262 and lost a lot of bottom end. I tried the EL34 EVH (not the Iconic) and didn’t really notice the difference. I’ve played other amps and in my experience it seems EL34s are brighter/fizzier with less bottom end than the 6L6 amps. That being said, this EVH Iconic sounds great and I really like the gold and black colors, even though it’s obviously a nod to Marshall. Another amp I don’t need but really want to pick up.
I really enjoyed the sounds! What an amp!
Great video!
I always thought you were saying east ender thrash riffs and thought I was missing out on a new genre.
Sounds good, not sure if I need to buy another Iconic head or not, but I do like my amps that have EL34's in them. They seem to have a nice "growl" in the mids.
I appreciate you including the weak loser music examples as I love that genre as well as the e standard thrash/drop C hardcore stuff. The amp sounds great! Thanks for the demo.
I would still probably just buy a used 6505 combo and convert it to a head tbh. At least it's all tube and easier to work on compared to hybrid stuff and it's cheaper. I love both tube and solid state amps but when mixed there can issues like in Blackstar amps for example and when things break they're more complicated to fix if they can be fixed at all as there's often a lack of schematics.
23'39: master of sound !!! Great vid Kyle!
Nice demo. But just to clarify...James Brown advised that the burn switch is used to emulate the red channel of the 5150-III. With the burn off...its supposed to be similar to the Peavey.
Opposite. The Burn makes it thicker too like the Peavey 5150….off it’s tighter like the Peavey 5150 II and EVH 5150 IIIs
@@jamesbrown7468 So the Burn is really a "new/old" switch (more like EVHIII/Peavey block)! Kinda like Splawn having the "old mids" switch on their Quickrods.
@jamesbrown7468 Oh ok, maybe you mistyped when we last talked on The Gear Page. Thank you for clarifying!
This amp sounds incredible!
Also, side note. As a guitar player, do you ever watch a players pick hand to see how different everyone holds a pick? You hold the pick vastly different than I but you can’t argue with results. Haha.
To me to add the earthquake pedal instead of just pushing the amp and getting all that you can out of it. Kind of defeats the purpose but to each their own
That guitar is beautiful
Sounds amazing. The review would be even better with more Slayer.
Sounds absolutely destructionous!
This sounds KILLER. Excellent tones.
Sounds a lot like Scott Ian's Mr Bungle tone where he uses a 100 watt EVH EL34. Could this amp basically be a stripped down version of the 100 watter EL34?
Meet the new boss...same as the old boss. Every 5150/6505 is essentially indistinguishable (aside from EVH's III series) and all subtleties could be compensated for with EQ tweaks.
100% agree....
Hence why I always encourage people to buy the cheapest option.
@@jarrusjenkinsa used 5153
Okay I don’t need another amp but this ROCKS
Been waiting for this demo to hit. Always hoped they’d do a el34 iconic and here we are! $999 poorer in pocket coming soon haha
Awesome what cab you got
man this thing sounds pretty sweet especially with the emg 81 in the bridge of that schecter
the price is right, sounds tight
3:45 mark ..Yes! Me too, brutha’!
I even bought the lunchbox 5150 from you. So yes!!
Lmao “I have a punchable face” I just screamed in my laundry mat.
This 100% my next amp thanks Kyle
I've always loved amp heads, in my 20, 30 , 40s and even now in my early 50s, after using a quad cortex I can't see the point of a amp head anymore
Great Video. Giving it that "And Justice for All" low end :)
LEEWAY always a good choice - amp sounds wonderful IMO!
LEEWAY!!!! RIP Michael Gibbons RIP Eddy Sutton!!
😮I have the iconic 1x12 combo, 6l6, totally flexible , loud with great clarity. I dig it!
im just about to buy one, 50% off due to being superceded i guess..i wonder how different it will sound to my fender bassbreaker with el34s
Something special about this amp. I can hear the potential for a lot of great tones like the ones in the vid and more. 6L6 iconic sounded a little one-trick pony imo, and not everyone liked the fizz and mids. EL34 def better imo
Plz compare EL34/6l6. Very interested in the difference. Great vids as always Kyle!
Man I really would love if they made a 40w head in the iconic series. Might have to buy a used combo and make an enclosure for it
would def be sick!
That is a great sounding amplifier
Was Coheed snuck in there?!😉
Awesome review you are the Matt Damon of high gain amp guitar Kyle.
One Among the Fence!!! Just trying to sneak some "Feathers" in there!
Was hoping for a little Flee Bird, Kyle 😂
Hey Kyle if Sweetwater hasn’t got in touch with you yet they said you could send it to me to try it out! 5150’s 4LIFE🤟🏻
never ending game shirt hell yeah
The Iconic is alright, but the 5153 6L6, EL34 and Stealth sound much better IMO. Plus the amp itself is quite large and empty looking. Id buy it on a sweet deal i guess.
Is there a big difference between the 6L6 and the EL-34? If so, what is the difference in tone and sound? I have the 6L6 but am thinking about purchasing the EL-34. Thoughts? Is it worth having both?
A comparison video would be awesome!
coming soon!
27:15 tone was brutal asf… made me touch my inner-self n’ sht!!🔥💪🔥
Sounds sick for sure. Ring a happy owner of the el34 100 watt 5153, it’s not surprising I do like this better than the OG Iconic. It seems to gain that low end punch of the 5153 100el34. Also I did like the original Iconic boosted green best but they both sounded really good here.
Doubtful I’m in the market, but never know. Like you I’ve owned and played 5150s for a long time. 1995 to be exact. I think I’ve owned em all except a few combos. The el34 100 watt is my perfect amp Altho at times the mids can be a bit too snarly but I always comes back to it. Just one of those things where maybe the air in the room has changed! Or simply our fickle hearing. But yeah… Ota the one for me. This one would sounds like it has some of those attributes tho. For $1500 less…. Kinda hard to not choose if I was starting over again
Excited for the comparison video vs 6l6 iconic 😎 would be nice to see the el34 5153 thrown in the comparison as well
Been playing Prometheus captures a lot on my Tonex. Definitely in my top 10 favorite amps. But I'm playing it through a 2x12 open-back so my mics don't burst into flames lol
is that Coheed and Cambria's Feathers at 14:36 or am I mistaken?
Great vid Kyle!! Hopefully I’ll get one eventually… bought the dsl thanks to you actually… best decision ever
man you really dialed in a bit too much low end in this demo. Otherwise it sounds like a 5150 and im happy they have cheaper options for people just getting into the bigger heads,
I would just like to point something out....
Putting EL34s into something like a 5150 won't make it sound british....
It's still a 5150 and will still sound like a 5150... same as if you stuff 6L6s into an Orange....
Guess what? It will still sound like an Orange.
Valve type will make little to no difference to the overall tone of the amp, it's the tone stack that will do that. Blackstar proved it in there videos, they had 2 identical amps except one had EL34s and the other had 6L6s and even the amp tech couldn't tell the difference and couldn't remember which amp and which.
I knew you'd keep the Epiphone!
Kyle as always informative. I have a Peavey 5150 combo and was wondering if you ever did a video of how to dial one for heavy metal/ drop D tones.
Gain= 5.25
Low =6.5
Mid= 4.5
High=6.25
Resonance =8.9
Presense=8
Awesome video, Kyle. To my ears, I’m hearing a little bit more lower mids than the original iconic.
Sound close like stealth
Another great demo! Good shit.
I was watching the video and was thanking I want to see you play a 7 string through this amp about that time you pull out a bad ass hybrid Schecter you da man. 🤘
Sounds great to me, thanks
It would be great to hear a comparison of 6L6 Iconic to the EL34 Iconic.
Sounds decent to me, although I would need to play through one before making a final judgment.
Love to hear some amp and speaker comparisons too
So much raunchiness 🤘
Sound awesome, kind of like a boosted Ampeg VL head 😊
can you run it through lots of cabs on the 2nd channel? 😮😂
Hey brother please tell me I made a great choice? I just pushed the button on this amp. Should be here tomorrow or Saturday.
Get it Brotha!!!
Thx for the review, awesome video as allways 🤘
Wasn’t a fan of the 5150 series; huge fan of the Peavey XXX though!! Killer amp there!!
Sounds killer my dude! Hope all is well Kyle ✌🏼
How do the iconic compare to a engl fireball 25?
I would also love to see a comparison video