The EL34 loaded EVH 5150 ICONIC is here!!
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
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Remember the good old days when you could just re-bias a 6L6 amp to EL34? Pepperidge Farm remembers…
Peavey XXX remembers too.
Revv amps still let you rebias. You can even mix and match based on the class AB power section. ie bank A can have 6L6 and bank B can have EL34
My Laney Ironheart has a bias switch, and these used to be fairly inexpensive, so props to Laney for including such feature at that price point.
They are now made in UK instead of china, so props to Laney for that too!
My JSX amp as well
Mesa Boogie Mark IV
I think EVH’s next big opportunity is to just make a simple 1 channel amp that recreates the brown sound. It’s what half the fans would want and it’s not redundant to their other products.
That’s a great idea actually all of the modern modded Plexi offerings are so expensive like the Friedman Plex looks awesome and I guess it’s cheaper than an actual Plexi but if they could do a single channel Plexi brown sound amp and keep it at or below 1000 dollars they would probably sell like crazy.
Ceriatone Molecular has you covered.
@@Eliphas_Elric I was just checking out their website yesterday and yeah they definitely have some cool stuff and fairly reasonable prices well actually incredibly reasonable considering how expensive music equipment has gotten in the last few years.
I agree...clone 12301 and let the world know the 2 gain stage struggle
Marshall already offers this product.. SV20H. I don’t see EVH brand making a plexi copy when they already exist. But then again, I’ve been wrong before many times.
This video needs to happen! EVH.. this man needs an amp please thanks.
Dude, if anything Kyle can really make this video demo sound AMAZING! Hands down
Can you possibly do a video comparing the regular Iconic to this one? I’d love to see what are the differences, anyways love your videos mate!
I agree. I really like the look with the gold. Looks classy.
I have the white 6l6. Guess I need a black tolex el34 head now.
I've been playing guitar for 28 years and it made me feel old... Just a thought after Kyel said, ''I've played the 5150 for my inter guitar Jerney''. 🥳
I been playing 50 years I play with a cane now 😂 kidding 😂
Brandon Ellis would be a great choice to push it to the metal guys, New album, Play through videos... could be a great way to market both.
Hell Yeah Kyle !! Great info. It'll be on your doorstep before you know it .
We'll be watching ......
I played the 6L6 at GC with the matching 4x12 cab I thought it sounded pretty damn cool 🤟🏻
Still waiting for a 5150 or 6505 mini head with full size tubes.
Basically, the 50 Watt is exactly that type of amp. ;-)
@@PippPriss I don't think the 50w can switch to 5w or 1w power.
That would be cool to me the big glass in the DSL20 and the MT15 are what makes them so much better than the el84 and 6v6 powered mini heads , if Marshall and PRS can use big power tubes in 15 and 20 watt amps why can’t everyone else ?
Totally this. I just need 20W with 6L6 and Im happy
@ChristopherOrz 😂 The iconic 6L6 has a power switch to go down to about 20 watts from the full 40 or 50 watts, it makes he amp sound a bit darker and more vintage in my opinion but it's very cool amp,especially since you can find brand new B stock for under $500 !@!
my dream EVH is a 50w with just a single blue channel. all killer, no filler.
The price is excellent. I think I'm attached to the Peavey sound at the moment.
Wow it looks really cool Kyle thanks for the video i would not mind blending the 2 out of curiosity i will wait till u do a legit demo cuz u are awesome my brother. I have not bought any gear since i bought the 6L6 head 2years ago i have had the Iconic for 2 years and no problems whatsoever for the price u really cant go wrong El34 model should be very interesting. Peace man👍🎆
I saw this amp last night and couldn’t believe there wasn’t a video. Then I wake up to 3 videos in my feed 😂😂
Probably gets us closer to the brown sound. Panama baby!!!
You should hit up James Brown, he’s where I heard about this and he actually worked on it
Not sure about US shipping dates but UK/EU is looking like mid-September (Sources: Andertons, Gear4Music, Thomann)
I would expect the EL34 amps tends to be warmer (I am slightly bias towards to my jvm/jsx over my 5153/MarkV) but what would be more exiting? Smaller wattage amp heads and built-in IRs --- personally.
I have no personal interest in buying an Iconic of any flavor, but I'm darn sure going to watch your video(s) related to one.
Woohoo! Love me some EL34 amps. :)
I saw that share on FB I am shocked I did not see this coming. I have most including 3 original 5150's and there really is NO difference between Block and not Block according to Mr. Brown......Love your channel, Kyle!!!
Although I'm more of a 6L6 fan for more reasons than I want to get into here, I feel for the ultimate in high gain British brown sound amps that EL34 is the only way to go. It's the first building block.
What I’ve been waiting for, going with the 80 watt head and matching cabinet. Probably will change speakers though if not getting the sound I like.
By the time you change the speakers you can get the real EVH 5150iii cab with good stuff stock for less, and it will match better
@@zanzabar4ky7 sorry I didn’t mention that I have an assortment of speakers already. I like to change them around for different sounds.
Andersons has them for preorder, as well
Lookn forward to you tweakn that amp on your channel !!! 🍻 !!!!
The Iconic is my favorite 5150, yes, yes I know…was debating buying a Stealth or EL34 5153 but now I think I’ll wait to try this out.
Do you by chance already have a Marshall DSL40 or something like that with EL-34 power tubes ? If you do you can get the iconic and run the pre amp into the EL34 power section and mute the iconic output so you have an iconic EL34 and iconic 6L6.
Excellent 😎
I wonder why they are not mentioning the construction material on Sweetwater. It just says black tolex. Well what is the wood of the head and cab?
Yes
I heard they're sending one to Louis Torres to demo.
this made me chuckle
😂
Sweetwater has the preorder link on their site. 🤘🏻
What Mesa head is sitting on top of that Mesa metal grill 2x12 ?
interesting ! i have the el34 and 6l6 5150iii... i prefer the el34. i gather they'll change the voicing on these ones too ?? but are they doing this and getting rid of the 5150iii ?? or will there be a 5150 4 coming up ?
That's funny, I read that Facebook comment you mentioned and I commented on it by saying there are likely preamp tweaks (my exact words) then hours later you make a video about it possibly not just being different power tubes and saying there may be "preamp tweaks". Lol
Love these amps! =VH=
Christmas in July🤘
I feel like it will have small variations similar to the other 5150s, I think they definitely could have reached out to a few RUclipsrs for a bit more press though lol
I prefer 6L6s, fell in Love with EL84s in My Lanie Ironheart, but I’m a total Rectifier Nerd! 2nd Channel (orange) BURN! Pushed with a TS is My grail tone. These days I pretend I have every amp I’ve ever dreamed of because of the technology these days. What I miss the most out of software/digital and analog vs Tube is the smell of the Tubes, the glow, the attack and unforgiving nuances in playing, and the power! If I were to go back to Tube Amps (I sold all of them) it would be a Randall Modular or Synergy Amps. I want the treadplate, pitbull, and a fender clean! Or an Uberschall, Ultra, man I love all of them. I’m off topic but I could rarely ever get a good sound out of 5150s or 6505s. I’m probably dialing them in wrong, but I get way too Lost in the mix. Almost “tinny” sound with unusable Gain. Don’t kill Me I just never meshed well with them. I want to Love them but…., 😅😢
*It's peculiar that you're fundamentally a metal rhythm guitarist and prefer tubes and I'm a shred and sweep guy but prefer solid-state; that makes us both enigmas! lol*
I have a 333XL Infinium XXX clone and am able to get the raunchy mean pinch harmonics of the solid-state gear I'm running into it which seals the gap for me between the 2 technologies.
*Pinch harmonics aren't meant to sound like they're made with glitter.*
Got anything in stone for that Marshall Origin behind you??
Modded origin's are filthy. No amount of eq, speakers or OD can make my DSL20 sound as good as my modded origin.
@@MetalHippie83 I’ve seen some excellent videos of the modded ones. I’ve got the 50w Origin and would love to get it modded in the near future.
@@MetalHippie83 What kind of mods do you run in your Origin?
@@JohnWiku origin headfirst mod, plus jose's diode clipping, got that done by a amptech and then I soldered a 470 pf capacitor across the gain pot to filter out some that high end fizz and thicken the gain. Im not a very good guitarist or tone master but all of my recorded videos on my channel are my origin micd up if you want to hear it, and thats without a OD just an eq pedal in the front as a boost
@@MetalHippie83nicely done man!
It seems I gotta get me an Origin to mod the crap out of it too 😂😂
to me the el34 sounds too dark. I play the 5150ii 6l6 50 watt 2x12 combo and it just sounds brighter. The blue channel with a sd-1 is where it's at.
I think it all depends on your guitar, strings, what OD pedals you use and so on..... if you have a bright guitar with bright strings, a high-mids heavy od/distortion etc. Can go for a EL34 to tame things down.
Les Paul with downtuned guitars and one of the basic ODs or Fuzz... 6L6.
Call me cynical, but I wouldn't be surprised if the two variations were voiced differently, beyond just the subtle difference changing the valve type would make. I wouldn't be surprised if there were different values of resistors and capacitors in either schematic, within the signal path before it even hits the output valves.
EVH needs a lunchbox that has all 3 channels and is 25 watts for a little more oomph than the LBX stuff
the 5150 III EL34 and Peavey 6534+ are among some of my favorite amps, from Gojira to Bring Me The Horizon. If this is the tweaked preamp deal like those, pairing this with a Marshall or an Orange is going to be... TASTY. A 5150 Iconic EL34 in tandem with an OR30 and both boosted with a precision drive, or Marshall Origin 50 with a Lichtlaerm Medusa, and the Iconic boosted with a Precision Drive... I need to go change my pants, they're suddenly sticky, BRB.
I think the "iconic" has created big expectations. But the amp never really kept up with that expectation. It's not a block letter from the get go. You can get it there (close enough for me), but it's not what you might think regarding the implications with the name and the visuals of the amp. I guess evh just wants to get the el34 out there as an option for those who are interested, without creating the same discrepency again. By the way, i'd love to see a video about the mod!
I use the current Iconic as my live rig. It's perfect for live, touring etc, cos it is more than powerful enough, sounds great in a live setting and is cheap. Due to it being so cheap for the quality of sound, I don't have to stress too much about it getting damaged, stolen or blowing up, cos it's much more easily replaced than even a 5150iii 50watt (which are twice the price where I live).
@MajorDook1 I've seen 2 bands play live with 5150 Iconic. Relatively popular underground-type bands, but definitely way more than local pub dad-rock type (not that those are bad bands or bad players, but i mean decent size venues and big mosh pits). Both times the iconic sounded great. Hard and heavy.
I am pretty sure the EL34 is going to be awesome, based on how amazing the EL34 5150iii sounds...
@emartinezr Yeah man. Brandon Ellis from Black Dahlia Murder uses them live too🙂
Now if they're only making minor changes to the amp, wouldn't it be a helluva lot cheaper to take a regular 5150 and put EL34s in it?
no, it would be stupidly expensive because the transformers are not spec'd for EL34 and the tube sockets are not wired for them, so you'll have to find a competent tech who can replace the transformers and rewire the tube sockets to properly accept and utilize the EL34 power tubes.
@@belligerentamateur ah, understood. I didn't realize it was that complicated. My bad
5150 IC stealth when?
😂 not likely. If you want a stealth you are gonna have to pony up the $1700 ! You can buy a used 50 way stealth head for $700 or less sometimes, you just have to be on the look out for deals.
Sometimes it's just the placement, it doesn't matter how good the gear really is, plus, those curious cats always searching for a 🆓️ boomer not giving a f^ck of the missing informations. Namastè.
Lets go
I'm still kinda salty they don't have a 20w lunchbox head for the iconic. I have no need for 80w or a combo I have to cut the cab off of. They missed hard on that. I have no doubt that it will sound insane though. I'm really looking forward to the demos
I hope whatever changes they've made to this have tamed the extremely harsh top end on the red channel. The original Iconic was genuinely painful to listen to. Can't wait to see what independent reviewers (especially you) get their hands on it.
Sufficisses For Stewie Student's. Excuse me have you seen succotash suffering around here...
Looks cool but zero interest in it. I’ll just go for used 6505’s every time.
Another rubbish Iconic amp. Much better choices out there.
It's a damned shame that they just didn't release these amps as 50/60 Watt class, aka, just a pair of power tubes.
Having a quartet of power tubes in this amp, being the power transformer and output transformer underspec'ed for 100/120W class, just does NOT make sense justifying the expense of swapping a quartet of power tubes when the time comes, when they are VERY under utilized (biased as cold as possible, running lower voltages to reduce power, saving on transformer iron, both PT and OT, also saving on caps by having lower voltage rating).
For a beginner, as they market this amp, a pair of tubes would suffice and plenty of power.
My full fledged 50/60 Watt class amps have similar size OTs as this amp that runs a quartet of power tubes, don't y'all see the fishiness with this??
They gave you a lot of solid state circuits replacing the tube gain stages, but then stuck in there a quartet of expensive power tubes, saving you preamp tubes that are cheap, when these preamp tubes can last four times as long, at least 😂😂😂
Bad EVH, BAD. I see what you did here.