Every Echoes Of The Eye Ending
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- Hello everyone! Im away from my usual studio like setup for the next few weeks. Instead of not posting anything I figured Id try to post videos that dont need all the fancy software, hardware, and editing for. Ill try to at least get my mic back for next week but this video is well suited for sans mic. Anyway, hope everyone enjoys as much as the video I did like this for the base game!
00:00 - 6:30 - The Lonely Inhabitant Ending
6:30 - 13:27 - The Simulated Hatchling Theory/Ending
13:27 - New Intended Ending + Prisoner Meeting
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That part where the hearthian was explaining the prisoner the full story hit me so hard man
47:00 I swear to God, the base game was already one of the most unsettling experiences I've had (looking at you, Dark Bramble's fishes!), and the devs decided to go full on Kojima's P.T. with the DLC. Discovering the eclipse from the satellite and going full speed to this devouring darkness was the first hint of the terrors to come, and seeing a damn *corpse* standing behind you in a dark tunnel in the Eye is just as unsettling!
What I mean, is... Congrats, Mobius devs. I'm very picky when it comes to horror, and yours is perfectly tuned to my tastes!
Unsettling would be an understatement, I was terrified lmao
The eye part was definitely the scariest part of the whole dlc!
This game makes me feel at home, whenever I come back to it every once in a while even after I beat it, something about it makes me feel at peace I love this game so much
I feel the same way. I have the travelers song as my alarm to wake up. And every morning it sort of feels like I wake up to a new loop lol….don’t judge me.
@@TheLoreExplorer heh I find that cute
@@TheLoreExplorer Good Idea! reallyyy
It gives me anxiety because I’m terrified of both deep water and deep space lol
@@TheLoreExplorer travelers song? Any link to the clip you use? Maybe I could use it as an alarm or something I’m curious what it sounds like now..
I know you were speedrunning the ending there and you may or may not know this but above the Prisoner's grave in the Ancient Glade is the ringed planet
Love how flowers are added to the prisoners grave after gathering him
Man, both the main and dlc endings still give me goosebumps every time
Damn the Simulated Ending makes me really believe that apart from the Eye, the Elks have no hate in their heart, they just don't wanna see you suffer the same fate as them!
Good intuition in my opinion! Many things hint towards this!
They threw their companion in an eternal prison for trying to alert others to the eye and then at some later point decided to even destroy the combinations to his cell locks, most likely well after they'd surmised all of their bodies including the prisoner's had died and no one was left to interfere with the signal jammer. I really don't know how to read that other than spite and malice borne out of their unabating terror of the end. Don't forget the elks are free to end their own existence whenever they wish by snuffing their own lanterns, but they don't. They snuff out yours because they (correctly) see you as a potential threat to their eternal limbo. They presumably stop hunting you if you stay in the simulation because if you don't do anything but persist there, they'll eventually recognize you as simply another shade like them. But I really don't interpret their psychology as benign in the slightest, and I think that's what makes the prisoner all the more heroic. Just my read though, the game leaves endless space for interpretation.
@@fleasy4393I mean they interpreted the eye like a doomsday device similar to the interloper for the nomai. What if you sealed the interloper and then some dude just decided to unseal it? They tought they could prevent the end of the universe, they were false but weren't evil, just desperate to live a bit longer
your content is great dude, been watching for a while now and i absolutely love your dedication to this game and it’s lore bc it’s honestly so interesting and insightful
They should have made an easteregg where you could bring the artifact to a regular campfire, where you just straight up exploded or something.
I mean you could do that with the second prototype(with green fire). What you comment only give you achievements
@@Johan_S4 I thought that thing held a powerful secret... Then It exploded. I thought "Ooooh! THAT'S why the lab was like that!"
you do get a trophy for trying it
You should make a video showing what your vision to the Prisoner looks like at different stages of your knowledge (like not knowing what happened to the Nomai).
it's been done before. Just look up "echoes of the eye all prisoner visions" or something like that.
Thanks lore for always making my day
@K & D joshi
Oh my god that made me cry. After all those loops and learning how his people reacted to the idea of what the quantum storm would do only to turn on him. Then realizing through his side of the story that the MC's life wouldn't be the way it is if he never went against his kind. And after all this time, millions of years, he learns it wasnt for nothing.
Any reason you never used the Hull Breach entrance? I feel it would have saved a lot of time.
17:49 you popped up that note on the one code that actually is found in the game lol
Also, surprised to see no mention of the ending that has the Prisoner but not Solanum. Granted, it's not too different, but it's still interesting. Either way, thanks for this video :)
I was just going to head to the first tower for the simulated ending but realized it may not work there after I already landed. I’m pretty sure the ending happens right away but the owlks in the first tower deoad before it should happen so I didn’t want to risk it? And as for the codes I suppose you mean the one we “find” with the glitch? I guess we technically find it. But I just didn’t want to confuse people and make them think I came with codes found elsewhere.
@@TheLoreExplorer In earlier patches of the game, the dream ending actually wouldn't happen right away and you'd have to wait for it, but they seem to have patched it to make it happen within seconds now which is nice. Unfortunately this also makes it much harder to hear the dream version of Final Voyage without datamining.
@@LB_ : I couldn't hear any difference from how it sounds when you're flying in Dark Bramble.
@@DaveLH The Dark Bramble version has the Dark Bramble ambience layered in, while the Dream World version doesn't.
Keep up the good work! Your videos make my day!
So glad to hear! Thanks for letting me know!
That intro was amazing.
I would love to see a video of where every artifact is, accessible ones you can pick up i mean. I always grab the first one, but i know there's others and it would be very cool to see them all and where they are.
kinda sad they didn't used the explosive arftefact mechanic, could have been so cool, rn it's kinda useless
great vids, thanks for sharing. you should extend the outro because the cards at the end cover the good bits that we are waiting to see
Good point. Bit late now for an extension but the cards are gone. Thanks for letting me know.
I dont know a game I could love more than this one.
i suffered a lot when i was going down to the sealed vault, the sound effect and the infinite dark tunnel wasnt something i was expecting
i desperately want to see more from this universe.
what were the surviving nomai doing? What if the universe ended just a bit later? the entire setting is so charming it's painful.
discovering the dlc was such an amazing experience, everything seemed an hint to wathever is happening in this ship, and all the crazy revelation around the fake world they created, omg
even better than the base game imo
Definitely one of my favorite games of all time
Good stuff even without a mic!
It would be nice if there was a mod that let you keep playing the game after the supernova explodes and you are just there in your ship or in the stranger completly alone in the universe until you die or quit the game.
Imagine completing the echoes of the eye that way lol
🔥 amazing idea
@@poutaitai5263 actually, I ended up making the mod myself, it's in the database if you want to try it
You can stay on the edge of the supernova to fly freely after the sun exploded (although this may have been patched, would be sad if so), then you probably can find the stranger and complete the DLC.
@@elena.krittik I actually ended up making the mod myself lol
The glitch of having no supernova is still there. Although the planets stay as they are.
You can still wreck the solar system by flying a bit to far away.
Day 5 of remembering Lore that his videos make my day
Yo ink its you! How ya doing dude? Remember me from reddit?
Mobius released a new patch!
Could you make a video with the differences?
I could feel your panic when you got out of the twin ash, and when you got on the vessel!!!
I still can't get over how existential the ending is. This one Hearthian. He saved not his world, not his solar system, he saved all of existence.
Okay, where do you find the codes for the vault in the game? I just couldn't find them anywhere. I managed to free the prisoner and got the "final memory" from the staff planted in the ground, but to get there I had to die in the real world so I have no idea how I am supposed to get to the real ending without "cheating" and using the codes without actually finding them.
*final voyage intensifies*
Out of interest how did you find the code to turn off the bells in the dream world when I did it killed my character on the fireplace so the bells wouldn’t wake me up was there a slide I missed?
People data minded the games code. Since technically there would be a right code they coded it in. And so the data miner could find it.
I'm curious what happens if we dismiss the Prisoner at the end, saying that they did well and their journey ends here. Does it just turn into the normal ending?
how can it be the intended ending if you're using codes that cant possibly be found in game, meaning that it wasnt meant to be done like that?
Woah, I had no idea it was possible to free the prisoner and finish the game in the same life. Is it possible to visit Solanum in the same life too?
Almost certainly yeah.
I kept trying to do it by going ash twin first
It's possible but I don't think it's "intended". Otherwise they would've allowed us to find the codes needed to free the prisoner.
@@samh9754 The names of the endings dont have anything to do with what happens during the loop. Its named after the actual ending we get. So the intended ending is referring to what we find at the eye after having visited both the prisoner and solanum. I just included the dlc's end scenes because I knew people would want to see it. Technically its not even an ending.
Depending on how long it takes to visit solanum it could be difficult to get to the Stranger before it sails away, but it is otherwise completely possible.
What's going on around 18:30 onwards? How are you inputting those codes when they're impossible to know? Or am I completely missing something?
stay tuned fr my next vid. I give out the cdes. Peeps data mined them. Thats why i put the astreick of "these cant be found in game
@@TheLoreExplorer Oh cool, thanks for the reply. Love your vids man.
Oohhh this game... Isnt about defeating an ultra villains or escaping to survive... This game ending is about accepting the end.
did you know that there is 2 more endings
1 go to the eye and say to prisoner then the planet in new universe will change but there will be only bugs and no owlks
2 complete echoes of the eye and never withness solanum and go to the eye say yes to prisoner then there will be only owlks and no bugs
i could always accept that the signal of the Eye got scrambled through Dark Bramble. which caught the Nomai. But if the Eye was literally inside the same solar system - i do'nt see how the Nomai would have warped inside D.B. I don't get it.
When we shoot our probe in the seed on timber hearth we will see it comes from two places. Its being emitted by the dark bramble plant. So if the eyes signal somehow entered and got sent back out. The signal origin would seem to be the seed. But apparently that doesnt much matter. Because now, since the dlc came out, we know that the signal passed bramble while it was still a normal planet. So it couldnt have gotten mixed up with bramble,
@@TheLoreExplorer so does that mean we don't have an answer to why they warped inside bramble. i mean you said it was before bramble took over. but it must have already been there if the nomai could warp to it.
The signal takes time to travel through space. So by the time the nomai receive the signal and warp to our system the bramble plant has taken over. But we dont know why the nomai ended up inside bramble when they warped.
@@GrandNoble : We don't know how far away the Nomai were when they received the signal -- Could likely be in another galaxy. So it may have been many millennia between the prisoner releasing the signal and the Nomai detecting it. If the Heartheans were fish-like creatures when the Nomai were there, then for all we know they were one-celled organisms in the era the Owlks still had physical bodies. So plenty of time for Dark Bramble to change from normal planet to the non-Euclidian nightmare we love to hate.
Granted, one unknown is what the speed of light is in the Outer Wilds universe, but I'm assuming, even taking into a account the scaled-down nature of everything compared to our universe, it still took the signal thousands of years to go from our system to wherever the Nomai were.
Why is the second ending called the simulated hatching theory? Is there a theory running around? Is it possible to know more about it?
No. I just called it that as a pun on "the simulated universe theory". Since we are a hatchling that ends up living in a simulation in that ending.
@@TheLoreExplorer got it, thanks!
17:30 why is it so crazy bright in the simulated world? did you mess with the settings or does that like a new game plus thing? It was practically pitch black during my playthrough
also rewatching the ending ending just made me cry, just like it did the first time. lmao.
I used mods to make things brighter. Just to showcase it properly.
I'm guessing you used mods to disable darkness and to make the anglerfish less annoying? But also it never occurred to me to try tagging the vessel so that I wouldn't have to do the whole signal tracking thing again
For the light yeah. No mods for the anglers though. I just sped up the footage or something.
you can get the ship through that group?? every time I tried I either bonked into them when drifting or alerted them the instant I was through and made any sort of course correction
Yeah. You just speed up going straight right before you enter the red seed. Then dont touch your controller until youre well past them. They actually cant hear your ships lowest acceleration speed. You can hit the thrusters so lightly it wont even light up the ships acceleration depicter. Flying that slow wont be heard by them.
Can someone explains me the ending after the credits? Is that the prisoner? and what about that structure befor he shows himself?
It depends how deep you want to get into it. The entire game revolves around us making it to the eye and observing it. Which makes it certain. This sends every possibility back in time. Which in essence starts a new universe. The creatures we see in the end scene arent the prisoner or nomai. But species inspired by them(the eye uses our memories to shape the new universe to an extent). So in short. The eye used our memories to create a new universe.
The codes thing while real, all three can be bypassed by what the game teaches you.
Except that the third one requires you to die, thus nullifying your chance to get the DLC ending + the actual ending on the same loop.
There has to be a way to find that last code. Otherwise why put all that chat with the prisoner in the end if you can't get to it because you die? Is it so that you try to brute force it since you have infinite time loops to do it? Or maybe there's something hidden that we didn't find out yet?
Why? It wouldnt change anything. They put the chat in so we can have a chat. Just like with Solanum. They could have shared that info in any way. They chose an impactful one. But I will say there is almost certainly more hidden stuff in the dlc we havent found yet! Just doubt its the codes
@@TheLoreExplorer Ah so The Prisoner appears in the ending like Solanum does even though you didn't do it on the same loop? I was lead to believe that he didn't show up in the ending unless done in the same loop.
Correct. As long as you meet the prisoner in your gameplay they will be at the Ancient Glade when you go there.
@@TheLoreExplorer I still need to do it after filling up the ship's log to see the difference in the ending cutscene. The DLC is superb by the way. The sense of wonder and awe at... everything, really.
Filling out the ship log shouldn’t change the ending either. Unless you mean the prisoners end scene. But we just give the prisoner more details on how the nomai died if we know that info. Nothing significant changes as far as I know.
For the new "good" ending, does the Scout always fly by as long as you rescue the prisoner? Or is there some other prerequisite?
You have to shot your scout into the eyes vortex. Or other wise into the grey smoke at the eye. I think you can also shoot it while in the ancient glade and itll disappear when the lights go out. Im almost positive that allows it to fly past later too.
@@TheLoreExplorer hmm yeah i don't think i've ever seen the scout at the end (altho the scout ending looked different before the DLC - didn't see that one either) because i never shot my scout once you get to the Eye. Didn't see a need. I'm curious of the exact requirements.
I don't know if I will ever get an answer on that comment, but I've been wondering: how come, in the second ending of this video, the Owls stop chasing you? I mean, when you don't take off the warp core and go to the "dream world" by dying, they can chase you and turn off your artifact, which leads to the loop starting again since we died both IRL and in the dream world (because our artifact was blown off). So, what would prevent the Owls from doing the same when the time loop is gone? Shouldn't we also die because our lights are turned off by them, like we do when they find us while the time loop is active? If anything, they WOULD have the time to do so if we have eternity to run from them.
If anyone has a answer to that or to explain something I misunderstood, I'll gladely take it!
Btw, thanks for this video and for the channel overall, it's really cool.
The caveat of that ending is that we end the loop/game without having sought the inhabitants forbidden knowledge. Thats the only thing they care about. And so they dont feel us as a threat to them. This is why they dont attack us anymore.
Oooh ok it makes sense that way! Thanks a lot for the enlightening answer and keep up the great work 🤩
i cant imagian how long it would take to find the functional codes
I could be entirely wrong, but (iirc) they have 6 slots with 8 digits, so 1,679,616 combos. Repeated twice more for the other two locks is 5,038,848 total attempts
People found them in the games codes.
Probably as long as it would take to randomly find the code to disarm the Bomb in "Starship Titanic"... "Taking us neatly to the heat death of the universe," to quote the Bomb itself.
@@thewanderer5506 One of the codes is visible via the matrix view because of the platforms.
So without the codes it's not possible to see the last ending with the prisoner at the fire? Am i right? So almost no one sees this ending if he or she plays the game in normal mode, right? 😱😱
Wait so how do you get the prisoner ending? I need to die in order to free him so i can't take the core to the vessel.
Do you need to cheat to get the third bridge code to beat the game with the prisoner present?
I only did those in the same loop so people could see both the dlc ending and the end of the game after beating the dlc. You dont need to free the prisoner and visit the eye in the same loop.
If there are codes to open the prisoner’s vault, do you even need to die to go meet him?
not technically. but the codes cant be found in game. so unless you cheat or try every single possible code...you have to die.
Why and how is it so bright here? Everytime I go here it's dark af
Mods are epic! You can see things now : )
Why'd it take so long for The Stranger to render?
Its invisibility cloak?
Where did you find the codes? around ~18:00?
I mean, I can see how you would get the first one with Matrix Mode, but the other two?
@@loosenut23 Someone data mined them. I have a short video that tells you them numerically. With zero being the first symbol and 1 being one slot to the right. Just look up "opening the real world vault".
Anyone know why the whole area was lit up at from 17:40 - 20:00? Normally when I'm there it's dark as all hell lol...
probably mods
codes are not even oficaily in the game so I don't think last ending is "intended"
I just did that to showcase the dlcs end game scenes and actual usual ending at the eye in the same loop. The intended ending refers to the actual ending of the game at the eye.
46:58 hold on WHY DOES HE HAVE BOTH ANTLERS?!
I just finished the game and the DLC for the first time and I'm confused by the true ending. Is there a way to find the codes for the devices in the subterranean lake? I thought you always had to die in order to pass the statues.
You dont have to die. But you also cant find the codes. But even if codes are destroyed. The lock themselves would still respond to the codes if put in. So if we enter the right codes(found in the games code) the vault will open without us having to die.
But thats not the games "true ending". I only did the true ending in that loop because I thought itd be nice to end the game with the prisoner freed. This doesnt effect the true ending at all! Finding them while dead vs alive wouldnt change anything. And ending the loop when they were freed doesnt technically change anything . Sorry if that confused you
@@TheLoreExplorer yeah thanks that was my confusion that I thought you had to do everything on the same loop but it's just like Solanum that as long as you see them and gets recorded the they would appear in the end.
i dont undestand the first ending, can anyone explain why he didn´t die with the supernova?
The Stranger begins to move away from the sun when the green panels open
How is the intended ending to free the prisoner while being alive ? We are not supposed to know the code for the bridges. I'd like to be able to free the prisoner so he can kill himself before ending the universe but just like Solanum, what matters is their memory and you get all your friends in the end no matter which loop you talked to them.
One really weird thing is at 23:36 the Nomaï ship is supposed to create a blackhole to warp into. In this video it's a white whole which doesn't make any sense. Is this because it was made on a save that didn't have the knowledge or a mistake that has been corrected by the developers since on more recent videos they create a black-hole ?
artistic choice corrected later on. Maybe it was white because the starry sky is black?
@@ahmed4363 yeah maybe ...
It was ncie of the Owlks to give us one last pant shitting
"One to remember us by?"
@@TheLoreExplorer A nice little photobomb at the end of time
Please include a chapter list in your description next time
A chapter list? I already have time stamps for each ending in the description. Is there somewhere else I’m meant to do it?
@@TheLoreExplorer I missed the description. I don't know how the feature works, but it separates your video timeline into chunks with titles :)
From what I know they automatically do that once you add time stamps to the description. I’ll look into it.
ahh. The first time stamp MUST start with 00:00. Since my eyes didnt open until 00:04 so thats what I put for number 1. Thanks for letting me know they werent there.
How are you still alive after freeing him? in order to open his prison I had to kill myself in the overworld with the fire so the bells wouldnt wake me. When I got in the waters, my loop ended
The codes exist. Check my video called "Opening the real world vault" Its only 4 minutes or so
That's not every ending though is it?
Specifically for echoes of the eye? Yes. As far as I know.