REVIEW: Irish Rail FIRST CLASS Train Experience | Ireland by Train - How expensive is it?
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Travelling First Class on Irish Rail in 2023. Trip report vlog outlining the experience and what I got for the price paid.
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Over here in England a 2 and half hour 1st class return journey would be at least £230 so 60 Euros seems like a bargain to me.
No wonder people would rather drive, return cost for a family of four would run a car for a couple of months!
@@nigelmchugh5541 That fare is the off peak, advance booking price, buying a ticket at the station on the day of travel would be much more expensive
@@darranbeal5947 Yeah I was in Leeds last year and it was £30 to go just 2 or 3 stops. Half hour journey or something, maybe less. Crazy prices.
That's what privatization brings I suppose, the rail is still state owned over here and all the ports.
Not sure where you get that from. I'm going from Manchester to Glasgow the week after next and the ticket is £90 return first class. With a Railcard it's about £60. Just book in advance and use split tickets 🤷🏻 usually you can upgrade on the train for less than £30 anyway.
@@racelox Oxford to Manchester Piccadilly with Cross Country booked 8 days in advance, check it out yourself. The cheapest off peak second class fare is £88
You’d have been far better off on the 201 Class mk4 sets on this route. 2+1 first class configuration with reclining seats
Seems I missed out there for sure 😁 As a solo traveller, the 2 + 1 would have been ideal.
how do you get that in Ireland???
@@mikedevaney3507 you pay for the ticket ok online
@@davidohora5454 No I mean I've never seen a 2+1 config on the trains in Ireland just wondering which one isit
You be far better of walking
Thank you! We have plan to travel with our kids by Irish railway, this video is very pleasant and great reference! Although I might consider the standard coach for priority 😅
Appreciate it Yanru. Your plan seems good to me 😊 hope you enjoy the family trip.🚂
Ireland has the best trains. I do like how they maintain their trains as well railway stations.
A semi state owned company. The state retaining a controlling stake.
Hahaha is this a joke?
If you are happy to have about 20 destinations all linked to Dublin.. horrendous.
@MsMissy Plus: no rail link to/from any airport in Ireland! Which is kinda embarrassing.....
@@MysticDragonForce I agree with you there. There should be a Cork-Waterford line too, it would be great. And Donegal has no rail link, shocking that our once expansive railway is what it is today
Great video! The 22000 Class used to be formed in sets of 3 and 6 coaches, but in 2014 were changed so it's now a mix of 3, 4 and 5 coach trains. This means there is more capacity because a maximum 8 coach train can be used. This is useful when they are operating long services such as to Cork. New coaches of these trains are coming soon so 6 coach 22000s will return! Unfortunately, the First Class on the 22000s is pretty much Standard Class with the addition of a lamp and a sticker. At least the bays of 2 seats get a proper table rather than a tray table. Enjoyable content, would love to see more!
Fantastic information provided there for me and other viewers. Thank you.
I last travelled the route in mid 90s with locomotive hauled old school passenger stock and a drinks trolley. Hopefully Ireland hasn’t gone too politically correct and you can still enjoy a drink on the train.
@@likklej8 Nope, sorry! Alcohol is not permitted on any train in Ireland, due to antisocial behaviour.
@@likklej8 the by-laws only allow consumption of alcohol purchased on the train. Currently the catering service is cancelled due to covid and a legal dispute with the operator of the pre-covid catering service , so legally, alcohol is not allowed to be drunk onboard. If someone drinks moderately and behaves, it's unlikely that any sanction would ensue.
Before covid, it would be difficult to get drunk as the trolley only had a limited supply of booze.
Thirty years ago, I was on a train, filled with punters returning from the Galway races. Many were playing cards, some were drinking at the bar ( no trolley then). Even the train guard was pissed. Before terminating, he announced "the bar will be closing in ten minutes, so if you want a drink, you better get it now".
@@thomasburke2683 Back in the 80/90s I’ve had a few sessions with other like minded passengers Yes the Galway Dublin festival and races train Sligo to Dublin train was a craic too
Great vid. Worth the price. The trains you guys have are amazing. I took the train from Galway to Dublin recently. General ticket was just fine. €20. Give or take. That’s frkn cheap but the ride was excellent. I notice it was so quite and empty, no graffiti, scratches, homeless, garbage, not like here in NYC.
Thanks for the kind words 🙏 Your right, I found the ride very smooth and quiet indeed. Good observation about the lack of graffiti on Irish trains. From travelling by rail a lot in mainland Europe, I also found graffiti has ruined a lot of beautiful train exteriors as well 😢
@@gottawander The exterior of our trains has been hit a few times unfortunately.
Funny fact, all the train stations in Dublin are named after the leaders of the 1916 Easter Rising that were executed by the British :)
Great fact here to add in, nice one. Your right, 15 main stations around Ireland were renamed in their honour 👍
@MsMissy and yet you took the time to reply 😂😂😂😂🤦♂️
I live in ireland and take the train galway-Dublin very regularly, and i have exactly the same as you have in economy class... so I think it's not worth it
An opinion backed by experience and your own knowledge of railing it in Ireland, can't argue with that 👍 thx for the comment
I guess as a tourist travelling about the place, a person wouldn't really know this as it's how it's sold, I didn't even know we had a 1st class 🤭 until I watched this.... I love the train 🚆 and it's how I get about the place. It'ss great to see that we are reviving more of our long closed down routes... It's great to see more and more people using the trains..... So, thank you for the good review on our reviving train service 👏👏👏👏
Its also great to see how Irish Rail have replaced all their rolling stock in recent times. I particularly love the train with the all yellow sloping front with green and yellow carriages@@sholahola2kaiinaoii
Excellent filming! The pleasant atmosphere specific to train transport!
Cheers for that, glad you enjoyed and thanks for taking the time to comment.
Cool. The word "uisce" means "water" in Irish Gaelic (in the bathroom). Word "whisky" derives from it, whisky is a reference to what is called "the water of life". : ) Thanks for another vicarious trip!
P.S. Was this your first trip to Ireland? Have been only once but loved Dublin so much, especially the combination of the cultural scene with the beauty of the seaside location.
Hiya Maureen, thanks for the comments. I am an Irish native myself 😊 so have visited Dublin a lot over the years. Glad you enjoyed the city when you visited as well. You will have to travel over again and check out some more of the island 👍
Lived and worked inthe rep.of irelandathe timethere wasnorail connection from the south to the north or to the capital city.so bravo oreland! We
Come to the rail community.electrificstion is the next hurdle to overcome.??love themerald isleits people and its beer! This yrip is on my bucket list;😊great video thk you for sharing.God bleas😊
Thanks for reaching out Johannes, really glad you enjoyed and that it reminded you of your time here in Ireland 💪🇮🇪
Thanks for this video, Gotta. We are relocating to Ireland later this year so I am learning everything I can about the country. Best, Anthony
My pleasure, thanks for reaching out Antony. That is awesome, I hope your relocation goes well and I want to be one of the first to say a very warm welcome to our little but beautiful island 🇮🇪🤝
Yes it is beautiful. My favourite area is the Killarney area but property is a bit more pricey than other areas. I may have to settle for somewhere a bit cheaper, like Sligo. I will be watching all your videos gradually, Gotta. Best. Anthony
Great video , sadly the AMT Coffee in Cork Kent closed as have 18 outlets in the UK and Ireland which is a shame due to trading difficulties. The premier 5 car set used to be 6 but to make up 4 car units they lost a coach. With the 40 plus extra coaches coming in now they will revert to 6 car sets . Units can be made up to 9 car max coupling different sets together. Hopefully catering will be back on board soon.
Nice knowledge of the coaches 😎 I didn't know about all the AMT outlet closures. Such a pity especially for Kent station. Hopefully someone will take over that Kiosk as it surely would do well you would think in that spot. I was looking forward to getting a decent coffee that morning 😢 thanks for the comment
Maybe the rent is too high
@@milesbrown8016 yeah, this being Ireland, that could have definitely played a factor in their overall decision. Hard for all businesses at the moment.
Oh damn, im from cork and go there a lot and while i personally do not drink coffee my friends who travel with me do and we had no idea it was permanently shut down! gutted, cause i use to actually like their hot chocolate and if you had nothing to eat on early morning trains their hot food options were a life saver. i wonder who'll they get to take over or will just leave it closed like most cork businesses now . thanks for letting me know though
I read somewhere that the enterprise service ran Belfast to Cork for a few years but it was stopped , imagine being able to take a train from one end of the island to the other!
That would be so handy. The transfer in Dublin is a real pain for sure if you want to go from south to north or vice versa via rail.
That could be the Irish equivalent of Aberdeen to Penzance
@@Battismore-Blue more like Bristol to Penzance, but seamless, so worthy of consideration in the future.
Super Trip Report you Filmed!😃.
Thanks a mill, appreciate the kind comment and glad a major train enthusiast like yourself enjoyed it 🙏
Great video.Thank you.!!!
Honestly, a person coming from Ireland, Cork is a great place to stay
I second that opinion, lovely place 👍
@@gottawander can’t go wrong with the BIGGEST county in Ireland
Lovely,high standards! If you want an extreme experience, try the trains in Romania. You will be shocked !!
Thanks Cristina, sounds like a great idea for a future video right there 😉
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Thank you sir, it's always lovely to hear that about our country. Really glad you enjoyed the scenery 🚂
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Sending love back to Pakistan!
You've got some great uploads..I take that train periodically...I've never had any issues..its actually very relaxing if you want a day out in Dublin..no traffic or hassle..great upload
Lovely comment, thanks Laetitia. Your so right as well, I found it to be a relaxing stress free travel day, no parking hassles, no delays and no major crowds to contend with 😎
Great footage 👍. Always love cork to Dublin journey, whether it be first class or economy.
Happy travels ❤
Thanks a mill Mar. 🙏 Nice easy way to get from city to city for sure
Yes i traveled by Train from Dundalk to Dublin every day in 1970 and it took an hour each way and it still takes a hour in 2024 so that's progress
Great progress indeed it seems 😉!! Thanks for watching Aidan.
Not long after you left Cork there was a Marsh piece of land. Was it a Marsh mallow.
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Lol
Cork city was built on a marsh, and indeed the name means marshland. So the Cork to Mallow service could be the marshmallow, returning on the Mallowmarsh.
Lovely and quiet
Your like me so John! I was delighted it was a nice quiet trip
For me the price you paid is not really worth the money, when there is no onboard creating, and also with 2 + 2 seating. Meaning the seat in weidth is the same size as standern. On the Enterpraise, 1st class seats are 2 + 1, meaning you have more room in the seat.
All very valid points 👍 my sense of worth came from the price difference when I returned in standard class the following day. The lack of onboard catering and similar seating in 1st and standard class are definite negatives however. Thanks for the comment
It’s a shame that covic is still being used as an excuse for no onboard catering. Every other train service in Europe has restarted it but now it’s just being used as a cost cutting measure
@@davidcorbett62 Yeah, I was very surprised when I found out and surprised that I could not find any update about if it will actually be restarting or not.
Not at all obvious what advantage this first class offers other than perhaps less crowding than in second class and a bit more leg room. The 2+2 seats look the same. Worth it if the price difference is small. A real first class would have 2+1 seats. The lack of on-board catering is very disappointing compounded by no coffee for sale in the station. In the old days you could have a meal cooked on board. Catering would mean adding a car with kitchenette. Other train operators have such but sadly few offer more than snacks. Long gone are the days of linen table clothes and food cooked on board.
@@patrickmccutcheon9361 Yeah I was not too overwhelmed for sure! From trying it, I share the same thoughts as you, that its worth it if the fare difference is small 👍
Enjoyable 🚆 Journey 💯 💖.
Cheer for the comment man, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching 😊
These trains were built by Hyundai Rotem in South Korea and are totally reliable.
Nice info Denis, thank you.
Interesting. They're buying all the new metro (DART) trains from the French.
Hi, lovely trip report with good detail, enjoyed!
Cheers Luke, appreciate that man
Great video! I subscribed. So close to 100 now :)
Cheers for the sub man. Thanks for watching.
All mainline and intercity Irish Rail services should have at least one first class carriage - I would definitely pay extra for a first class ticket and I would expect a high standard of service if travelling in first class
I feel like with this type of train, the first class coach is not worth it at all. Especially because if you get the train from Dublin-Limerick at 17:25, it will be this exact type of train except the first class coach is at standard price. I never tried the Dublin-Cork Express 2+1 first class configuration but i have walked through it many times and it seems much more comfortable. Even so before Covid when the food bar was right beside it !
Excellent input, thanks for sharing 👍
Super video! Great train ride, nice review! Thumbs Up and Subscribe
Greetimgs from Dublin
Andrew
Thank you Andrew for the kind compliment. Looking at your channel, I am really happy that a massive train enthusiast like yourself enjoyed 😁
Exactly the same table lamp as a Cl390 in the UK but I'd be pretty dissapointed to find 2+2 seats in "first" class.
I think many would agree with you regarding the 2+2 config 👍
I don't think we have first class in Ireland, all the carriages are like this one. We're not really into class divides over here so I wouldn't be surprised, I never noticed first class on trains before anyway.
@@ggmm6182 perhaps but our middle earning section of society (or middle class if you like) is much bigger than most countries.
@@ggmm6182 bigger as in the percentage of the population.
Seriously what else could I have meant?
And GNI PPP which means purchasing power backs up what I'm saying.
@@ggmm6182 I didn't mention GDP, try to read.
Modified GNI is directly related to wealth and PPP is purchasing power.
Seriously pal 🙄
I get this train from Hazelhatch to Pearse every day. I wish there was some level of recline for these seats to be able to sleep a bit.
Your right, didn't even notice the seat recline (or lack thereof!😉) That would be a very practical feature to have. Nice comment 👍
you're not gonna get much sleep in that distance , 😅
I have never been to Cork station but am told the line has been upgraded recently To allow for higher speeds. Am sure someone can tell me if it has been or not.
Was thinking of the huge steam engines built for the express trains the mighty 800 class of which only 3 where ever built 1939/40 for service on the Cork Dublin route. What a sight they must have bern in full flight. One is preserved in the Ulster Transport museum
What a sight that must have been indeed. Great info re the Ulster transport museum as well. I didn't know about that so definitely going on my sightseeing list 😊👍
It's mostly 160km/h track, but the timetable often has got quite a bit of margin built into it - so you may not see the full speed.
It's being funded for 200km/h capable speeds for future-proofing, but no Irish trains can go that speed at the moment.
@@jgcondron Thanks I knew I had read of it being upgraded somewhere.. just need the faster trains once it’s done
@@davidcorbett62 Yes the Dublin to Belfast line on the Irish side will get the same treatment. I see that Translink have plans for a new Belfast station. Irish Rail are tendering consultation on the new rolling stock to replace the Enterprise Fleet. They'll probably be multimodal and will have to support both 25KV AC and 1.5K DC. It might be the first InterCity line to be fully electrified.
The Dublin Cork line probably needs both Dart + South West and the Cork Suburban rail from Mallow electrified first. I think that's 2045.
@@jgcondron Nods re the Enterprise should be the main target for a faster express train linking the two cities as the present average is around 60mph which is pitiful compared to other countries express services! One of the main problems in NI rail has been its always came second to roads when cash was given out and not helped by politicians who only respond when a bribe is attached. If you have a look at the closure of the “Derry Line” shows how criminal elements where used to influence its closure. In reality a joint approach to all major rail routes in Ireland should be the modus operandi for all future plans re the railways in Ireland. This should be totally devoid of all political goals and propaganda used for a so called inured Ireland
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Your great craic bud
Ah thanks man. Appreciate that and glad your enjoying the ole wanders along with me😁🙏
This makes us realize even more that when designers go ultra modern and minimal. they lose all sense of luxury, whether it be hotel rooms or train cars. So to answer the question is First Class much different from Standard? - Not really, no.
Hi Megan, thanks for sharing. Indeed, the word luxury didn't come to mind during this train trip! 😊
Def better than the commuter!
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Economy section is sweet as aswell
I agree, the standard class is very nice on this train type as well. Modern and comfy seats 👍
I enjoy train travel in Ireland
Me too 👍
Great vid, is there any tea/coffee served on trains in Ireland since covid? Be nice to know.
Cheers Michael, appreciate it.
As far as I know, not for intercity trains within the Republic. Nothing since COVID in terms of onboard service. Hope that changes soon.
I believe from Dublin to Belfast there actually is catering onboard however.
Thanks for the heads up. Typical this country.
@@michaelcoughlan992 more than welcome man! I know right 🙄! Seems no one wants to take on the catering contract to date. Thanks for watching
It's so stupid that they don't sell tea or coffee on the train. I got the train from Cork to Limerick and the coffee shop was closed at the train station.
I agree, definitely a lack of options at Cork station right now as well as onboard.
No unbound catering is rediculous
Yeah, definitely not ideal. And it seems there is no date yet as when it will return.
Totally agree - the worst of the pandemic is well over , don’t see any reason for the catering outlets to still be closed.
Interesting vid by the way 👍
It is my understanding that the catering company went out of business, but they do appear to be failing to get another one I
People talking about how cheap 60€ is for the train I take this exact train and it cost me €0.65 with a child leap card 😂😂 I didn’t even realise this train had first class because it’s the same as economy
The 2-either-side seat config surprised me for fat-b'strd 1st Class travel tbh.
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This is a nice ride
Cheers for the comment Solomon, happy you enjoyed man 😊
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Cool video, worth checking out the Enterprise if you haven't.
Cheers for the comment. Have been on the enterprise before years ago but not in 1st class which looks a lot nicer for that train type😁 I will have.to take another trip up north soon and try it out! Thanks.
I didn’t realise we had first class coaches 🤷♀️
With no long distance rail trips in this country I can see why people would think there was no first class option 👍
Im a regular on this train and tbh first class is not worth it, the standard class is much more cheaper and honestly doesnt have much difference compared to first class! love the trains tho - bargain for students/young adults!
Definitely understand your reasoning here. If I had to take this trip regularly, I would feel the same. Thanks for the input 💪
They’ve really tarted up Cork Station since 1994?
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Is there a station in the center of Dublin?
Hey Charles, Connolly Train Station would be more central than Heuston. And the Luas Metro line connects the two stations should you need to transfer between the two.
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Excellent upload. However, I did spot a few grammatical errors.
Cheers Damien for the kind words and yeah some errors will most likely find their way through on my vids despite the rather large amount of time before upload. My apologies for this and any future ones you will probably spot 😂
@@gottawander Thanks for that comment. Ireally enjoyed the upload.
@@gottawander I appreciate that I enjoyed your upload free of charge. My comment was only to draw your attention to some errors and in that way help you.
@@damienhunt4264 always appreciate constructive feedback man so no worries at all there 👍
Too bad you didn't get to ride on the CAF carriage sets. AFAIK the first class on that is much better, a proper 1st class offering with for example with 2+1 seating rather than the same 2+2 as with standard class like what you got in the ICR coaches. That kind of first class is pointless IMHO.
Valid points Sean, I agree. The 2+1 config would have been a lot better and more in line with what you would expect from first class. Thanks for watching and for reaching out 👍
I would recommend a 4 seat insted of 2 then we won't be looking a seat
But i like the way you went about the 2 seats lovely video
Not first class I’m afraid, the loco has the first class carriage
Why is it that Irish Railway Stations keep reminding me of London Marylebone Stn?...
Even down to the AMT coffee shop..🤣
Excellent train!
BTW while Km/h is to be expected
Please show mph
160km/h doesn't sound as impressive as 100mph
Just read in comment below re AMT and it's problems 😔
I wish their employees well
Thanks for the comment Eugene and for the tip, giving both km/h as well as mph is something I will do in future vids 👍
@@gottawander
Good man...
In the Winter I use Celsius because
Zero is literally freezing
In the Summer I use Fahrenheit
Because 100°F is metaphorically boiling!
@@eugenemurray2940 that's good use of degrees for Dramatic effect right there 😆👍
@@gottawander
Thought you'd like it!...🤣
Looking forward to next vid!
Consider yourself subscribed sir!
Didn't know we had 1st class on our trains 🤔 probably the section with lights on the tables lol.... Which we often sit in 🤪
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I used to sit in those cabins all the time when I was commuting to and from Carlow
@@JizzyF83 Hope it was always a friendly and relaxing experience 😊
Good video 1 class on 22000 is not much difrent than 2 class only one thing on first class you have table light that all if you be travel on MK4 you will see hows is difrent 1 class and 2class 👍🚅🍀👊
Great info, yeah I travelled standard class back to Cork on the MK4 the next day and was pretty underwhelmed so I can imagine 1st class would be noticeably different then for sure😊. One major difference I noted between the 22000 and the MK4 in general is that the 22000 was a much smoother experience. Far less jerky or bouncy.
@@gottawander in my opinion MK 4.is more comfortably than DMU 22000 i work with 22000 every day lol🚅have a good. Weekend 👍👊
@@tomdublin8701 So...I think we all know who is right here! And it's not me 😂!! You sure know your trains man 😎 you too, enjoy the rest of the weekend.
@@gottawander tanks pal hah my weekend 12h with DMU 22000 at work i subscribe you u got a interesting channel have good weekend👊👍
@gottawander Yes, you're right they often do have a better ride quality. First class on the Mark 4s is due a refurbishment too. I saw tenders that hint this is in the pipeline.
Not at all impressed with the 2 X 2 1st class seating .
Although it was a pleasant trip, the seats did not have the wow factor for sure! 😊
It's not First Class. They label it Premier Class. It costs an extra 6.75 Euro; half the cost of the First Class upgrade.
AMT coffee gets a down vote from me
Well, I definitely gave it a down vote that morning too 😂☕
Amt is no loss they're too grand to accept a 50 euro note they don't have their float sorted and then take it out on the customer hope it stays closed. I prefer Starbucks they take any money u give them.
@@puddin9313 like Starbucks and Nero, their coffee is undrinkable!
@@Simpaulme Nero yes Starbucks is brilliant
It's a fairly boring journey to be honest. I've travelled on that train a thousand times.
It was a bit of a novelty for a tourist like me but I can see how for regular users like yourself that it would become boring! 👍
First class is right but no catering. How could you call this first class.
Yeah, fair comment. The MK4 which has the 2+1 seating plus onboard catering would have enhanced the experience for sure.
Biggest load of robbery ever. My pet peve is Irish rail.
Thanks for sharing. Yeah the fares definitely seem to be significantly different at times because I checked them again after my trip and if I went the week after, the 1st class was nearly half the price. So I can understand if people can feel both ripped off and on the other side, feel they got a good deal at times.
Why???? Its ridiculously expensive
For regular train goers who have a good understanding of fare differeces, it may seem expensive alright 😊 cheers for the comment and opinion 👍
@@gottawander ok agreed
Low fares of 21.49 Euro each way are very good value.
TBH for €60 worth of petrol I could drive to Dublin have lunch drive home and still have two to three days worth of commuting, tell Greta to protest that.....
👍 thanks for sharing
That was not a First Class journey. As a business traveller I require a minimum of a 2+1 seat formation and at-seat catering. This journey looked like a glorified local train. I will not be using it.
Aw shucks I’m sure they will be devastated 😂
There’s always one isn’t there and ur it
Agree. Just go standard, Noticed former commentators gone to ground!
Irish first class means you get a glass with your bottle of whisky and there's fresh sawdust on the floor 😇
Love the angel emoji at the end there Michael 😉
@@gottawander haha, just joking of course. Me grandad was from Dublin. Fine people 🇨🇮
@@michaeldowd8422 lol, can't beat a bit of banter 👍