Attack on Titan SERIES FINALE REVIEW! (SPOILERS)
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2023
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Beau & Aaron review the series finale of ATTACK ON TITAN!
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The guy wasn’t holding up the baby as an offering they were passing it around to try and save its life without worrying about their own
I thought that was super obvious.
@@bringinthedope5929 You mean because the baby was the only thing in color and the entire rest of the scene was in black and white until the Rumbling stopped? lol, yeah, idk if it could have been any more obvious.
The mother was pushed off the cliff, and the baby just kept getting passed back by people who were being pushed off to save it even as they fell, until the one guy had it at the moment that the Rumbling stopped and color returned to the world.
It felt less like Armin was trying to justify Eren’s actions and more like he was trying to comfort his friend in his last moments
That was my impression too
I am SO happy to see you guys covered the ending!! No-one reviews shows like y'all. I enjoy hearing people's favorite characters. Reiner was definitely my fave, seeing the internal struggle between seeing Paradis as real people rather than just devils and holding his loyalty to Marley was torturous for the guy. I love all of the characters' developments, every character and their motivations were so well done.
AOT is my favorite show of all time.. not just anime. It’s up there with Breaking Bad, True Detective S1, The Wire etc. It’s astonishing how well this story is put together.. Coupled with the incredible musical score by Sawano, the animation, world building, fantastic characters.. AOT will go down as one of the all time greats. It’s so sad to see it go, but the anime absolutely elevated this ending for me.
Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Best of all time from every type of media for me
Kohta Yamamoto also did an excellent job with the score
13:20 I believe the guy holding up the baby received it from behind him toward the cliff. The baby’s mother actually gets pushed off the cliff and she saves her baby at the last second and it gets passed away from the cliff.
It seems immature because eren is immature. It’s realistic. What’s not is the typical anime troupe of a teenager able to handle that level of stress and responsibility
Eren is a severely emotionally (And probably to a degree intellectually) stunted 19 year old who was never exactly in his right mind. Normal 'stable' people don't act how Eren does when he saves Mikasa from the human traffickers.
i miss the pods, these narrow scope reviews do not hit the same
Why do you think the guy was offering the baby? It wasn't even his baby, that mother and child were specifically colored red while the rest of the crowd was dark and Grey, pointing the duo out. When she falls off the cliff, she passes on her baby in order to save it and it gets passed back into the crown in hopes of saving its life...
Ive been dying waiting for this episode!!! Im so happy yall are covering!!😊
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS AND WAS HOPING YALL WOULD MAKE THIS
It's funny, how I started the show loving Eren and didn't care much for Armin, and now Armin along with Reiner are my favorite characters in the show, both surpassing Eren.
He tried to change the future, but never could.
Thats why he laughs when Sasha died
“But Zeke…Don’t you wanna play catch?”
“You son of a gun Armen, count me in”
YES! I been waiting. This is my favorite show out of any piece of media as well. Most well thought out show with conplex twist/motivation. A realistic look on our world that applies even today. Realistic and tragic ending. It literally hurts knowing this is done. Excited to listen to what you guys have to say
How quick Bo was with that Sam Cooke line, change gone come 🎶
I prefer that Mikasa is with a random farmer like Historia tbh. I don't vibe with Jean lol
FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been waiting and hoping you will review the finale 🥳🥳👑👑👑👑
The Eren being pathetic and cried on Mikasa is really Understandable. That's him being Vulnerable and Completely Honest with what he feels, that's why we're humans. You do have to factor as well he's like 19 Years old here with this kind of weight on his shoulders.
yeah, very realistic that the person who killed billions of babies and children is crying like a regular pathetic adolescent. Genius psychology insight here /s
@@basementreviewer788 Go argue with Isayama on how "Poorly" written he is. A kid that's trapped, seen how chaotic death is. Lets see the result of his psyche.
"Too much salt is spicy...." 😂😂😂
Also at 24:00 you guys mention that he never tries to change the outcomes. He literally has tried and looked ahead at what would happen if they changed certain things. Every choice he makes is to make sure things happened this certain way. Like you guys mentioned earlier, he did EXACTLY the same thing as Dr. Strange did in Infinity War, only it all happens at the same time for Eren. He says this when he talks to Armin, and when he talks to Mikasa, he also explains they are going to live for the remaining 4 years alone together in the fake alternate timeline. When Mikasa goes to kiss Eren at the end, he is dead at their cabin and when she says see you soon, it's because she knows once she kills him in the "real" world, she's going to remember those 4 years with him.
This!!!!!!!!
I’ll always be thankful Beau recommended AOT which open my world to anime.
Gateway anime are extremely important. It helps dispels alot of preconceived ideas of what anime is or certain cringe representations of it.
43:26 haha I was waiting for it, I would have been disappointed if you hadn't. That's the moment I cried too, Riener's mom just breaking down and realizing how she'd used and abused him for his entire life and how she genuinely did love him but hadn't really realized what that meant until the end.
I thought the scenes at the end were forgotten memories, and he unlocked the memories right before he died.
Lmao as a New Yorker I appreciate the knicks reference
Whats up Soup Squad! I was just listening to your review on the Boys Season 3! Love you all so much, as many of us do! Thanks for all the stuff you've put out there!
I enjoyed this review. Eren is written in the style of a Greek tragedy. At no point is the story attempting to redeem him. Armin is simply comforting a friend, not absolving him. Look into Hamartia. A lot of Eren's flawed choices lead to the predetermined future he saw. It will click if you know how Hamartia works in Greek tragedies.
Oedipus is a good example of a character whose flawed personal choices lead to a prophesized future of killing his father and marrying his mother. Eren eating his Dad, and killing his Mom makes sense in that context also.
A lot of people were surprised about Reimer being the Armored Titan. For some reason I was always saying how Reiner's and the Armored Titan had the same haircut. Colossal did surprise me but I kind of suspected Reiner's.
Hope yall aint sleeping on Frieren this season. I think Beau will appreciate Fern's no look Lebron behind the back mage attacks during one of their battles.
Please check that show out. Cheers!
I don't think the titans will return after the end credit scene. When Ymir went into that cave she was a terrified slave running for he life. I think the spiny creature (not going to try to spell it) just gave her what she needed, the power to overcome her circumstances in the form of titan powers to dominate a world that's dominating her. At the end sure it's a post apocalyptic world but this kid is freely exploring with his dog. If the spiny creature is down there who's to say it won't give him what he needs, the powers to rebuild and advance his world
Anime can be wack but also is epic. That’s why I like your guys’ channel y’all cover everything.
Nerd Soup, Eren’s admission to his childish and selfish desire for freedom in front of Armin wholeheartedly as his character conclusion is the highest form of narrative fiction, and television EVER since the ending to Breaking Bad. Monumental. Insane writing that only Isayama could achieve. Unreal. Incredible review as always mate.
So you guys are both fanboys of Game of Thrones and cool with that ending but this ending you have a problem with? LMAO.
We've spent the last 4 years whining and complaining about the ending of game of thrones. Maybe this is the first video of ours you've watched since the ending?
Lol 200 episodes into one piece and talking about long battles and arcs? Wait for Katakuri and Wano Country
One of the great show of all time
Im also binging one piece and this is mf crazy. 350 episodes in.
Now I’ve gotta try and convince my dad that even though attack is an anime doesn’t mean it’s any less quality and actually more so than most anything. Most episodes on imdbs top 20 highest rated eps.
For a series that got famous for having no fear with killing off characters all the time, it was odd that pretty much no one aside from Eren died in the finale 😅
I kinda expected the idea that Eren actually wasn't an evil dick and this was his plan behind the scenes, but I also expected a slaughter where the good guys win but with a bunch of sacrifices to get there. Obviously we know that like 80% of humanity died, so it's not exactly a happy ending, but for the main cast it's pretty much a happy ending. Not the biggest fan of the whole thing with Ymir, but whatever.
Anyway, it was still a fun to watch ending. Random and inconsequential things I would've liked to see is Anna getting a buff to her powers (idk why, maybe cuz some of the others after the time skip got kinda stronger) and we never saw a warhammer titan as a main character, so we barely really saw it.
>but I also expected a slaughter where the good guys win but with a bunch of sacrifices to get there. Obviously we know that like 80% of humanity died, so it's not exactly a happy ending, but for the main cast it's pretty much a happy ending.
That was 1 of 2 of Eren's motivations - was to have his friends live long and happy lives, wouldn't exactly have worked for him if half of them died trying to stop him.
@@PhosPhryne I know that was his motivation. My point is that it should've still been written differently. Maybe his plan backfired and some of his friends still died, tho ultimately the plan works, or maybe his motivation could've been entirely different.
It's just strange that up to this point we always thought a character could die any moment, cuz that's what happened all the time, and suddenly for the big final fight, no one died 😅
Even tho we saw *many* moments in the episode where characters *almost* died, but miraculously survived. It doesn't ruin the episode, tho I think it would've been better if at least one or two still died, even tho Eren tried his best for them not to. It's not like he was in full control during the battle.
Just because it wouldn't have been unexpected for them to die doesn't mean it serves the story. I was expecting deaths as well, but narratively, I'm not sure what it would actually add other than to make the viewer sad. It's not like the main cast has been living good to this point and nothing bad happens. They've been in a living hell the entire show. I know the norm has been death after death for a lot of characters, but after all the main cast has been through and the things that they have had to do to people (including friends), I think the sadder ending for most of them is that they have to go on living after all of this. The happy ending for most of them would have been death.
@@danbrueckman5948Yeah I totally agree with this, deaths for the sake of shock and to ‘increase stakes’ is shit writing imo. Character deaths need to serve the narrative and the arcs of characters to be worth doing it.
Ah yes. The soup are stomachs have all been rumbling for ❤
Two things I took from AOT’s series finale:
- Eren cared more about the safety of his friends and their freedom, hence why he was okay with being the bad guy. He couldn’t care less about the future that did not involve them.
- I think the ending shows the human condition: we will always find a way to hurt one another as a species. War never ends.
No Eren doesn’t. He cares fully at the top about his freedom for himself than anything else. Stop twisting it lmaoo
Thank you for your video on the ending. I'm about 10 min in as of writing this comment. I love Attack on Titan but I hate the ending. I could go on and on about why it's not good but I'll make a few points after this first paragraph. If you like the ending of AOT, I'm honestly happy for you and I am not trying to take that from you. So if you disagree with my points and want to argue with me feel free to, just know I'm not doing this to hurt fans of the ending.
1- Whats the cabin scene with Mikasa and Eren? It has been made explicitly clear that Ackermans can NOT have their memories manipulated but this seems to have happened. Don't tell me it was paths, because when Mikasa is holding Erens head and Armin runs up to her Mikasa says "you got your memories back too, huh?" The "too" implies her memories were manipulated and the only thing it could've been was the cabin scene.
2- What memories did Eren show Grisha to give him the Attack Titan and force him to steal the Founding Titan powers? What made Grisha change his mind and turn on Eren at the end? And are you telling me that Eren Kruger, the guy who tortured and killed countless eldians all in the name of destroying Marley wanted to stop Eren too?
3- What's Ymirs goal? When did she turn on Eren? You mean to tell me that after Eren showed her that she's just a normal human and not a god that she teamed up with him just to see if Mikasa could actually kill him in the end? If the point was to show Mikasa moving on from her love of Eren then why is she still wearing her scarf until she dies? That shows that she never got over her feelings for him.
As I'm listening I'll add to my original post.
4- Eren killing his mom is not "having his cake and eating it too" it's just bad writing. There is no reason why that had to be written in. It was already set up that Dina wanted to find Grisha and her titan finding his house and eating his new wife was perfectly fine as it was.
@@graysenm1320 This is damn near the only criticism of the ending I agree with. That 4 second scene should have been cut. Served no purpose and undermined Erens rage and hatred.
@@PhosPhrynetotally agree. It felt like unnecessary shock value at the last minute.
@@graysenm1320 yep 100% felt like the writer was trying to get one more big shocking thing to happen at the end ignoring all the other big shocking things just just really odd
1. It seems you're caught up on the translation for the anime, while the manga makes it more clear, imo. Mikasa says, "Armin...you remember now too, don't you?" Eren didn't wipe her memories. He can't manipulate memories or erase them, but he can enter Ackermann's mind. So he just pulled her into the paths before dying; she was the only one who got her memories back BEFORE his death, so I think this is what happened.
2. A lot of this is left intentionally vague, but for both Grisha (who gave up on this idea of restoring Eldia until Eren manipulated him) and Kruger, their plan was to restore Eldia. They didn't want or have shown the desire to destroy the world.
3. The Ymir thing makes sense to me. Eren acknowledged Ymir as a person and gave her a choice, while Mikasa freed her from her feelings and her connection with Fritz, and all her trauma that comes with being a person in her unfortunate position.
3b. I think it's pretty fair to grieve like that, Eren to her is still a guy that saved/cared for her. The problem is the presentation. We only get a few images of Mikasa post-Eren death so it looks like she is locked down by it but she DID kill him and move on with another guy possibly.
4. Eren killing his mom is unnecessary; I agree. The only thing it does is cement the cycle of Victim -> Perpetrator, but even without it being included, I still think that idea works with Eren's actions.
this is good soup
Thank you guys! I was anxiously awaiting your review!
I personally didn't like Eren killing his mom, because it didn't make sense to me... I can buy him being able to control all former Attack Titan shifters, but Dina? How?!
Same with Ymir being in love with King Fritz.... it would have been more convincing if he still controlled her (through the daughters) and her death didn't free her.
It was established that Eren can control regular titans since season 2.
@TheDreamingDays From the time he obtained the Founding Titan (where Grisha meets up with him) onward, yes, but during the death of his mother where he has no titan powers in him, and no link to the past yet, no it makes no sense.
Essay incoming: The moment he obtained the founding titan he could see and influence all past, present, and future. It is older Eren who murders her, not child Eren. It does make sense.
From episode 2 we see child Eren filled with rage and declaring he will exterminate all the Titans, which becomes killing all the enemies across the sea. This establishes the tragic flaw (hamartia) that leads him to the predetermined destiny of committing the rumbling (and killing his Mom and Dad).
When Eren gains the ability to time travel the thought that he can go back and save his Mom occurs to the audience, but if Carla does not die Eren will not be able to achieve his goal of killing all the Titans/enemies. Eren's driving goal more than anything is to be free. His mom has to die to ensure that events unfold in a way that ensures Paradis Island's freedom.
Eren does not want a world of peace where Paradis stays caged in the walls, and never learns about the outside world. Carla living might change Paradis Islands' fate into remaining ignorant and closed off. Eren prioritizes obtaining freedom over his mother's life. Hence, "a slave to freedom". @@ari_peacock26
I think you guys missed that Eren destroyed 80% of the population so his friends would be on even ground with the rest of the world. Giving them a fighting chance, while also making them heros.
He also admitted that there was probly a better way but that a part of him just wanted everything to burn. He realizes its an immature decision too late and he cant go back.
Also him crying about Mikasa being with someone else makes sense. Idk why he gets flack for it. He knows the right answer. He says he just wants her to be happy. When armin pushes the matter, thats when he breaks down and says his true immature feelings. In the face of my death, id want my partner to be happy and move on, but theres still a apart of you that seecretly wishes they could never get over you, and pine for you till the end of days. Its really not far fetched.
Also the baby scene. They were all falling off the cliff from the rumbling and they passed the baby to save it. The guy just ended up with the baby when the rumbling stopped. He kept holding it up cause he was in shock lol
But yeah, still excited to hear ya'lls thoughts. I liked the ending. It felt satisfying because theres a lot of foreshadowing to Erens decision.
Eren did what he would regret least. Unable to live in a world without his friends.
As Levi says, no one knows the outcomes of our choices, so all we can do is make a choice we believe we wont regret. And i think thats exactly what Eren did.
>He also admitted that there was probly a better way but that a part of him just wanted everything to burn. He realizes its an immature decision too late and he cant go back.
A lot of people miss that Eren ultimately admits, like Walter White, that he did it for selfish reasons. Walter because 'he was good at it and liked it' and Eren 'Because I wanted to see this (Billions dead, mass destruction) sight. Eren in earlier seasons even admits all he really fills is anger and hatred see - Mightnight Son, i think the episode is.
He wanted to do it for himself, this is such a stupid take. HE IS NOT LELOUCH ITS LITERALLY SPELLED OUT
He did this for himself, he explicitly states this and how saving his friends and having them live and be happy was a convenient excuse that he used to keep pushing him forward. He even acknowledges how of course this wasn’t his main goal otherwise Sasha and Hange would be alive and he wouldn’t have left them in so many life or death confrontations with Floch and his motley crew.
@@PhosPhryneYou’re totally right when he is begging Levi to save Armin and he contrasts them by saying what you said and that Armin has dreams. Armin saw beyond the conflict, Eren never could.
@@sreenivas6071 He's not lelouch.. yeah... and? Like that doesn't disagree with what I said.
The anime added more context and explained better what the Mangaka wanted to convey in the manga.
When I finished it with friends, we all had the feeling the ending felt like a “cold feet” ending with the half baked Eren redemption, historia’s child/pregnancy turning out to be inconsequential, falco flying out of nowhere, calling yimir’s Stockholm syndrome love, sudden strong focus on mikasa being the key when we’ve always felt she’s 1-note. Just our opinions but still like 98% perfect show overall.
Falcon flying was explored more in the manga. In the anime we only had a few words said between falco gaby and annie, you have to remember the titan science (the armor tonic that eren got, why Annie was capable of cristalize like the war hammer titan, the semi coordinate ability of the beast titan) I really think that a little bit more of expostion or episodes would help to make things so much cleaner but al least there are some answers in the lore. I hope for a prequel series, about the tyburs, fritz, and the titan war, I think it has potential
So I don’t think it was an Eren redemption it was showing him as pathetic because only a pathetic manchild could do something so horrid and Armin consoling him came across to me more-so as pitying him rather than Isayama redeeming him, historia’s pregnancy had the purpose of her not inheriting the beast, I would be fine if there was more to it but there was a point, this world probably doesn’t have the term Stockholm syndrome given the era its set in but the audience understand what was meant and it would be weirder to just say the term imo, Falco ingested part of the beast allowing him to manifest bestial characteristics, Annie did the same in season one to control titans like Zeke does, Mikasa seems one note because Wit butchered a lot of her character and made her one note in the anime, in the manga she had a lot more moments to her than caring about Eren, post timeskip her arc is focused on the distance between her and Eren so I cam understand why people think she was nothing without Eren but thats Wits issue rather than the series as a whole
yeah nobody really calls eren out much i think pieck could be that character but she never gets there
Disappointing. It reminded me of Game of thrones ending, i had the same feeling of time invested, wasted. Half ass ending, i honestly forgot the anime completely until this pod.
For me I think where the ending most falls flat is the way it ties up its broader political themes, in that…it kinda doesn’t
Maybe it’s because I don’t completely buy into this idea of the “never ending cycle of violence” or at the very least is a concept I think sorely lacking in nuance, either way, it kinda leave that portion of the story feeling sort of half baked
Really, it’s lack of real material analysis sort of leaves it without a cohesive political message beyond pretty trite liberal ideas about discrimination and so fourth
I know it’s not the main focus of the story, and it’s really a personal story about kids trapped in a cruel world, but when the stakes get this high, I feel you need to do your due diligence in properly portraying this sort of situation
AOT, a retrospective on how to kill all the hype on your finale
Remember when people said this was the anime Game of Thrones? They were so right and also including how dog shit the ending was and how it basically ruins the majority of the show.
cope.
Like 5% of people agree with you, you just need to look online for 5 minutes and you see that, whereas got ending is hated universally by hardcore and normie fans. The issue is you, not the series.
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I don't think ya'll understand how excited I am to listen to this one🫶✨️
It's funny, how I started the show loving Eren and didn't care much for Armin, and now Armin along with Reiner are my favorite characters in the show, both surpassing Eren.