HOW THE HELL DID I MISS THIS?! Let me explain...
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- Опубликовано: 4 апр 2021
- HOW THE HELL DID I MISS THIS?! Let me explain...
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Bro you don’t have to explain yourself. All looked stock to me. God bless.
a video about nothin.
If you didn’t make this video I never would’ve noticed them. Seems like they are exactly where they should be
Same here I drive a 2020 ram 2500 for work on stocks I really thought the 35s made it look like that
@@austinkichler9695 I’m in the same boat as Caleb I run 14 wides on my Ford and had 12 wides on my Cummins so these sticking out less than 1” looks normal to me
@@zackanderson9254 what’s the big deal with spacers? Is it bad for the truck?
@@dzeleh5501 they’re known to break lugs off and not great for the front end parts of a truck. He should have been told that they were on the truck because safety with them is a big factor especially being such a cheap brand
@@dzeleh5501 There's no difference between spacers and offset wheels. The stress on the parts is the same no matter how the offset is achieved. It's a leverage issue. How the leverage is applied makes no difference.
Dont feel bad man. This has happened to me many times. When you are purchasing something new you kinda get a tunnel vision and it's easy to miss things. I'd say the paint issues and the stress and disappointment just narrowed your vision to the most pertinent issue.
I have taken many things home only to discover disappointing things when I have the time and clarity to properly assess them.
Dont beat yourself up, it's a common phenomena. I'd def be pissed off at the dealership though.
Legally they would have a duty of care to inform you of a potentially dangerous modification. You have some recourse there. Cheers
Were people upset you had spacers or something? lmao
I should of done better at explaining my point there, I was mainly upset that SO many people have commented about how they were positive it had spacers, and I brushed them off like “no it doesn’t, I haven’t out any on” (obviously not thinking at the Time the dealership already did) I look like an ass lol
@@ParoDoXz ya but who really cares if you have spacers or not you did not know at first thats not your fault the truck looks good and that is all that matters
@@ParoDoXz HUGE difference when you simply didn’t know! Don’t sweat it! Dealership should have DEFINITELY let you know! Nice looking truck!
This is a hell of a statement video over some spacers lmao. Lord help us if it has a body lift too 😂
Can't wait to hear the results of the test without spacers. I have the same truck and want the same tires.
They definitely should have told you before doing it!!
Don't be so hard on yourself. Everyone has missed things in their life. You are not the first and you will not be the last.
Everybody messes up from time to time, can’t expect to notice everything all the time. You are still doing a great job with your site. Looking forward to seeing Mater!!!!!
You’re not idiot dude you don’t have to explain it I would’ve missed too keep up with the great work...
yes! the dealer should have called or told you when you got there that they had to put spacers.. I'll take the spacers off and see if it rubs and how it look..
I can't believe that this would be an issue with anybody. I mean, seriously, it's just some spacers. I think there's bigger things going on in this world right now.
Buyers remorse or youtube drama?
And what issues should be concerned about??
I mean when you spend $70k+ you don’t just say yeah I’ll take whatever home with me you fucked up
@@ayden5406 spacers take like 2 mins to remove man . It does nothing nothing
This was just a click bait to me
Absolutely something a dealership should let you know about! You ain't trippin Caleb you got a valid point.
Don’t stress about it too much. I would have been so hung up on the scratched up paint just like you I probably would have missed a lot of issues and never noticed until I got home. I agree with you dealership should have said something about the spacers. Knowing dealerships surprised they didn’t charge you a extra grand for those. 😂
I used to work for a Chevy dealership and we would have never put a set of tires on a truck if you had to use spacers just to make them fit. I’m not sure if you can even legally do that without the customers consent and or signature. Seems shady to me.
Yup. Spacers AND the scratches... Where'd this truck come from??
I wouldn't have known at a glance.
Buddy! Dont worry so much what people think of u. If you wanna feel better to say something, say oh I didnt realize that and if people wanna ride your ass for nothin. Tell them to go somewhere, dont need to be here commenting. You realize people just do that to get a rise out of you right
Caleb, first I would not have suspected the spacers. It looked natural with the spacers. Second: we have had some problems with front office and back office at our local keep/ram dealership and now we call the GM directly for service. Third: they have apparently done this before and knew they would need them. I would have them get you rims with the proper offset or a credit to put different rims on.
I own a 2017, level kit, 35" Nitto's, looks stock to me. No big deal. Like you, I was told dealerships couldn't put spacers on either.
I didn’t even notice the spacers either 😂😂
Yeah that dealership is shady as hell, they should have told you. I would never have thought to check for spacers from a dealer.
I wouldn’t noticed that either, I’m also use to stance being 14 wides
Have have 35s on my 5th gen stock wheels with no spacers no rubbing but I definitely agree they should of let you know for sure!
What tires are you running that don't rub? I'm looking at the BFG K02's 35x12.5R20 with a 2" levelling kit, wondering if that will clear without rubbing (mixed comments it seems). I would love 37's, but that seem to require a lot more customization with a much higher lift (4"+). I love the stance of this truck with the spacers, but and I don't want to swap out my stock 20's, so not sure how it would look without spacers (video suggestion). Also looking to improve the ride quality of my brand new 2022 Ram 3500 Laramie. Any additional info helps, thanks all!
I’m usually pretty good at spotting trucks with spacers especially on stock wheels but I did not notice love your videos man keep up the good work
Love the content man. Can’t wait to see more matter content.
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Let me know guys, is this something the dealership should have mentioned?!! Or no?? Let me know below! **ALSO** I should of done better at explaining my MAIN point here, I was mainly upset that SO many people have commented about how they were positive it had spacers, and I brushed them off like “no it doesn’t, I haven’t put any on” (obviously not thinking at the time the dealership already did) I look like an ass lol
Yes they should of disclosed that there are spacers on this truck.
Dang man, If i was you, i would return that thing and get my money back.You have a lot of patience!
I dont think you would be as upset about it if you hadnt told people it didnt have them. I've ran 2 inch spacers for 2 years and they are fine. As long as your torque them and use lock tite, you're good to go. I assume the back space of the wheel wouldnt let the 35s fit. People get in trouble when they dont torque wheel spacers .. I would at very least retorque the lugs on the spacers and wheels, then wheel again in 500 miles. The stealership should have at least gave you a heads up.
Dealership should've known better , to not disclose wheel spacers. Wheel spacers HAVE to be retorqed every so often, they took a risk not telling you.
Personally, I believe they should have told you. I work in the auto parts industry. I'm not a fan of wheel spacers at all. Especially if you're going to two with it. I personally don't like selling wheel spacers. Yes, the dealership should of told you about the wheel spacers
Thanks for the video bro, I am new to your channel just started watching a few videos the other day and I was wondering about the stock wheels as well, I personally thought it looked like they had more stance than most factory rams and was going to ask you about it. Thanks for clearing it up, very professional keep up the good work and stay safe!
I would NOT have expected and or inspected the truck for wheel spacers... it’s all good boss... dealership should have notified you prior to making that change... at the very least asked you to make that choice... crazy... take care and God bless... Dave.
You and your work both amazing, doing things crazy man hell yeah🤘🤙😎
Dang it drives me nuts when people call them “5th gens” it’s still a 4th gen with different front end and different interior it’s like when thru changed the front end of the 3 rd gen the kept the cab abs doors and bed the same just change the front end and dropped in a 6.7 but still called it 3rd gen so why call this a 5th gen when’s it’s just a upgraded front end and interior 4th gen
Go drive a 4th gen limited then drive a 5th gen limited. And then come back and try to tell me it's not a 5th gen. Might be the same cab but the new truck is MILES better.
@@loganshort1324 it might be different in some or a lot of ways but it’s still the same cab same doors same bed and pretty much same frame so it’s still a 4th gen till they change the rest of the body and not just the front end
Man I didn’t even notice until you pointed it out in this video, some people must’ve been dissecting your video lol
It's all on that dealership for the whole debacle. They are the ones that should own up for the condition of that truck. You are tryin to fix their f'ups. I see no problem on your end. I'd hold that dealership responsible for fixing it right!
That stealership seems scandalous as f...
Don’t sweat the small stuff brother. Just get new rims when you can or take them off if they bother you.
I have learned over the years to have a physical check list that you go through when checking out a vehicle.
10:18 I didn't know dealerships could add spacers legally either!
My truck has a 5" lift from the dealer and they warranty the whole thing
I honestly like the spacers, but if you wanna take them off to see why they done that go for it man. The truck still looks nice!
Love the videos man keep up the good work I wouldn’t even of noticed your truck having spacers if you wouldn’t have made the video
keep the great work man
I’d say for someone who just buys it to drive it’s not a big deal but someone who NEEDS the Cummins it should have at least been mentioned because under serious load they may cause something to fail prematurely
Cant wait to see Mater rolling.
Yes, the dealership should tell you about the spacers!
You are a great guy for owning up to your mistake, which is not that bad. Just buy some hub-centric spacers and call it a day. I think the dealership should have told you about it.
You should measure the ride height side to side front and back, you have an air suspension truck and every single one that I've seen leans to one side pretty noticeably. Also check those axles because the track bars on mine were way too short/long and they sat pushed over to the drivers side.
Bro don't bear yourself up. Most people would not have noticed it. Beautiful truck and congrats on the success
They definitely should have asked before doing that. But honestly I’d leave them. I think it looks good. I know spacers can be sketchy but I’d just send it 🤙🏼
I don’t see a issue , if you don’t like them just remove them , I’ve run spacers and haven’t had any issues with them
I should of done better at explaining my point there, I was mainly upset that SO many people have commented about how they were positive it had spacers, and I brushed them off like “no it doesn’t, I haven’t out any on” (obviously not thinking at the Time the dealership already did) I look like an ass lol
@@ParoDoXz You should have to explain yourself, it’s your truck bought with your own money , we all make some mistakes when buying stuff luckily it was just spacers and some paint correction
Yout not tripping. The dealer should have said something. Running spacers could possibly cause alignment and bearing damage.
Keep killing it with all the content!
Appreciate you owning up to it . But truly I never even noticed it but I'm not a dodge guy either 😂. But good looking truck and the dealership should've told you those were on there.
Honestly man I didn't notice in the video of you picking it up, I run spacers on the back of my truck but I just put a 7.5" lift and had to get the stance right and I'm not crazy about running spacers but yeah they should've mentioned it to you for sure
Dealerships will do anything to sell a vehicle!! I had a brand new van back to the dealership 7 time because the stereo would not hold the Chanel on Sirius XM, every time we shut the van of and turned it back on it switches to FM. Dealer says there no problem. My sister is a engineer for Chrysler for 30 years. I told her about it and she asked me if it had a DVD player, I said yes. She said do the controls for the DVD player come up on the display I said no. She said they added the DVD player aftermarket and spliced into the aux plug in the back of the radio. BAMM!!!! 100% correct!! Soooo pissed they didn’t tell me it was aftermarket. We took it back 7 times. They should have to tell you if they do stuff like that. Kudos for owning it.
Not one person is perfect. You are honest and that’s all that matters. Anyone might not have noticed it right off. Who would even fathom a dealership would do this this let alone not disclose it. Maybe they were supposed to tell you. No one will ever know.
Mistakes happen brother...I have a 2019 5th Gen with 18” Method Wheels with 35” Toyo M/T’s...the wheels have a 5.75” Back Spacing with zero rubbing! Looks and rides excellent!
Yes they should have told you something about them. Love the content. Awesome truck
I got your point, seems like a legit thing to overlook
Keep up the good work Caleb
I think it looks good bro lol just leave em on and torque em every time you do a rotation 🤘
The biggest deal about the spacers is the dealership should have let you know other than that it's a sweet truck. Congratulations on the new truck.
I got a 20 ram 2500 and with the same setup with no spacers. Hell I didn't even notice a difference on ur truck, looks just how mine sits.
My 19 dually came with spaces like everyone else. 🤷♂️
I get that you missed the spacers on initial inspection as there is no major stance (I might have too). That said, can't figure out the big deal. I'm assuming there are other wheels that have offsets that will give that look without spacers if they worry you that much (it's a simple unbolt and remove), but I see no issue with quality spacers (which rough country are) CORRECTLY installed. Will the increased offset put a little more strain on the front (balljoints, tierods, etc), most likely but no more than a similar offset wheel. I run rear aluminum 1.5-2" spacers on my Duramax and square body pulling truck (for over 15 years now). I tow my pulling truck on a 10K equipment trailer with the Duramax and truck pull with both. The truck pull transfer sled weighs 45,000lbs and stops both trucks dead in their tracks under full power and I have no worries about spacers on either truck. Using cheap Chinese knockoffs with sub-par studs and not checking proper torque would be a concern, but I'm hoping the dealer used quality parts and has a competent tech who installed them. Probably wouldn't hurt to re-check torque after a few hundred miles, but after that I wouldn't worry. I am COMPLETELY new to your channel, but it doesn't look like you overwork/overload your truck, so there should be zero worry when properly installed.
Dealers are like politicians, say and does what works for them first, don’t beat yourself up.
Don’t sweat it man. Looks pretty damn good
dont beat yourself up man you bought a beuatifull truck with or without spacers and if you decide youre gonna get rid of them i could use a pair my 04 rubs on full lock 😅😅 keep on trucking brother 👌
I have the same setup only diference i got bf goodrich 35s. Wont rub with out spacers but wont look the same. Im running 1 1/2 spacers. No spacers will make you change the factory wheels not stance at all. Also have a levelling kit. I did turren springs with fox schocks.
Dealers only care about your money when you leave you are a complete stranger to them and if you complain most of them will treat you like shit..
It’s your rim offset. The dealership probably didn’t know it needed a Specific offset for them tires. So instead of buying new rims they just put the spacers
Give us a video about jimmy and why he’s no longer with us. I personally was really excited for the final product and to see mater next to jimmy
Paradoxz coming in hot with the slides
I’m with you man I would never catch that or even expect that
I drive a gen1 Raptor my stance is awesome... I never get tired of looking at it... 35 “ nitto ridge grapplers. Beautiful
hey we all make mistakes, we learn from them, truck looks good either way, and with your knowledge I'm sure you'll figure this out
Recently happened to me. I had no idea I had spacers until I brought it to my local tire shop. Now I'm spending money on new wheels with proper fitment. Sucks but dealerships are snakes when it comes to being honest with a customer.
Shit happens man, you just overlooked it. If you ask me, what’s the big deal? It’s a lesson learned, keep doing you brother!
Bro!!! Either way you got a NICE looking truck!. Keep the spacers it looks perfect
No worries man, I respect the honesty, dealership should definitely have mentioned it, alot of "internet know it alls" out there, keep up the good videos, God bless
I work for a Toyota dealership and when we lift anything we put control arms on and everything but never allowed to put spacers on no matter what the issue is. A dealer should never do that unless they are expecting a lawsuit.
My luck it would void the warranty.. good looking truck!
I have those same wheels and tires on my 5th Gen 2500 w/2” Thuren coils. No spacers.....no rubbing
They should at least told you that the spacers was on your truck. It still looks sweet tho keep the good content coming ready to see more of mater.
Before I got my 2nd gen, I ran spidertrak 1.25 inch spacers on my 4Runner for years and they never came loose or gave me any issues. I would just keep em just torque them like 2 times a year maybe 3. Now I know it’s not exactly comparable to your UNIT of a dodge that weights like what 8k and my 4Runner weighing in at around 5k but maybe I could just try and give you piece of mind. Also I think it has the perfect nice slightly more then flush stance, I dig it!
Dude.... The truck is beautiful and looks factory to me. All those haters are just butt hurt of your success. Keep up the good work and keep pushing forward.
I wouldn't have and I'd be pissed. Sadly that dealer saw you coming they wanted it gone. I'd be raising hell.
My 14 was leveled with 35x12.5 and no rub. My 20 set the same way and rubs like crazy. But your truck looks good thinking about tossing my XD’s and going back to stock wheels and setting up like this.
Never would of noticed, guessed or questioned when sold on a dealers lot. Like you said, there have been some bad happenings when spacers are used - any warranty voiding issues?
I bought a RAM 1500 from Jimmy Britt 6 months ago with a 6” RC lift and 37” Toyo MT’s. I almost bought the truck you have. Just went out and looked. They put spacers on my truck too! Didn’t even know until I watched this video. Simple oversight. Keep making great videos man!
So how did you go with being able to remove the spacers and still run the stock black wheels with 12.5 MT, was there any hassles or was it all good without the spacers.
I have the same question! I have the same truck in gray and it’s literally in the shop getting a leveling kit and 35 Tokyo mts as I’m seeing this. I looked up if it would rub or not because I didn’t know, but I’m over here wondering if I need spacers too?
Appreciate you bud 😊😊😊
Do the carli leveling kit and method wheels combo. I believe with a little trim they run 37s
The sales guys had no idea , they sent the truck in for wheels so they could jack the price up. The tire shop put spacers on, they likely put them on everything because they are $30 each.
Not a problem . Great looking truck !!
I have a '21 2500 as well , 6" BDS lift with 35 " .
For sure they should have told you of any alterations or aftermarket parts that they installed should have also been included on the build sheet
Take em off and add a Carli kit
I don't see a problem here lol. Run'em until you get the wheels you want.
After all of the minor defects you found when first looking over the truck they should have told you everything else big or small that had been done, not done or was to be done to the truck, especially since they were having to try and get you to go ahead and but it. That said it's a damn good looking truck.
I'm thinking about getting the 3.5 inch carli lift, I believe it comes with newly engineered coils, plus you can run 35's.
Good video. Dealership should have told you everything they did to the truck.
Don’t worry. The dealership do dumb things. My uncle bought a lifted tundra from Toyota and it had plasti dip black bumpers when he thought it had satin bumpers as a trim level or painted. It wasn’t until he pressure washed it and the plasti dip came off lol.
They didn't have someone who knows the ins and outs of customizing. They need to tell the customer of all aftermarket mechanical mods.
I own a 2019 with the same wheels but the trans force tires and factory height. I could tell you had spacers because of the little bit of stance but if you came from 14” wide tires, it’s an honest mistake. I’ve always taken my time working car deals and try not to rush. I love my 5th gen and you will too.
Unless you own one of these new Dodge ram trucks, you would have never known that truck had spacers on it from the dealer. That stance looked perfectly legit to probably 99.99% of the people that watched your videos.Don’t be so hard on yourself, do you have a sharp truck
Shit happens, dont worry about it. Was it in the half sticker to the right of the window sticker, where they add $4,000.00 for lift/level and tires?
If I am not mistaken You have to run the spacers so you do not rub the frame on the inside and the crash bar on the front We have been doing that at our shop
Love the truck! Looks great!
I don’t like that the dealership is putting spacers on a new truck. Why dont they just have more offset on the stock wheels. I was looking at getting a ram, but just ordered a 2022 tremor. Now I’m worried that it might have spacers on the stock wheels. Does anyone know if the tremor has spacers?
If you hadn’t of told me it had spaces I would’ve never of guessed, I just put a 3 inch Carli back country system on my Ram 2018 2500 with 37 12.5 R18 Nitto Ridge Grapplers, Method MR701 18” x9” plus 18 offset with No wheel spacers and about the same stance.
I have a 2019, same set up.
No spacers, wheels rub when turned sharp in reverse.
Also, have you seen your front coils, and see how catywampus they are?