I was once a drug addict as a teenager. On tv one day there was a preacher that said " Jesus loves you" something happened to my heart that day and I said ok if you're up there I need, and gave s list of what I know I needed to get out of the life I'm living. Within a month I had everything on that list and was miraculously delivered. The Lord later led me yo a pentecostal church through a lady and that Sunday recieved the anointing of the Holy Spirit and I spoke in tongues. I spent a couple of years in the church and came to a knowledge of doctrines not really being taught. Moving forward, the Lord taught me there's many churches, they are different and all of them have a certain truth, all of them have certain lies. This is why we are to seek the Lord and let him leed us into all wisdom and knowledge and of his will for us. I'm born again and obedience to the word with the fear of the Lord gives you the peace of the Lord. 🙏 This is why we must not judge but speak the truth in love. ❤
Amazing testimony, full of wisdom and practical guidance. We are to "be filled with the Holy Spirit" but not to camp out in the Wilderness, but "moving forward" (as you said) escape denominationalism and enter the promised land of the fulness of Christ. We as a unified body, the Church, must work toward that end now, and brother Francis is helping to lead the way.
I got saved in a Pentecostal church as a young man. The last 11 years I have been attending a Calvary Chapel and have learned to read the word verse by verse chapter by chapter. I think it’s ok to have a dividing line with doctrine but it’s NOT ok to judge other Christians and say that they are not saved because you don’t agree with their theology. This is why our walk with Jesus is a personal relationship. The Bible is our guide as we wrestle with this denominational differences that will end when we get to heaven.
Yes, to an extent. But the apostles and Jesus himself warn us about those who profess to know God but do not keep his commandments, especially false prophets. Examples - Paul: 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, Ephesians 5:5. John: 1 John 2:4, 1 John 3:10 Jesus: Matthew 7:15-20.
So we shouldn’t have fellowship with professing Christians who live knowingly in unrepentant sin - 1 Corinthians 5:9-11, 2 Thessalonians 3:14. I also won’t have fellowship with those who preach another gospel - Galatians 1:8. It’s generally quite obvious to tell who trusts in the Lord and loves Him, regardless of their denomination. But it’s still of the upmost importance to strive for doctrinal purity, because it’s for the glory of God to worship Him according to His will.
@@doctor1alex I am a Catholic who agrees with you. But to achieve doctrinal purity, you should read the Bible in the light of the history of the Church, not just believe the doctrines of men (Luther, Calvin, etc). How about reading the books left by the church fathers who learned directly from the apostles? Their books are available to anyone who cares to learn.
@@mariasoniamoreno3433 I do read the writings of the early church fathers. I think all Christians should aim to also. But we must realise that the early church writings are not authoritative in the same way the apostles are. And there are a LOT of different views in the early church. What I admire in the writings of Luther and Calvin is that, whilst also being exceptionally knowledgeable about the writings of the early church, they derived their theology from the Scriptures and measured all teaching by it. Simply by reading Calvin’s Institutes one can see how he both commends and rebukes the historic teachings of the Christian church by comparing them with the word of God. It’s evident that Calvin loved the teachings of Augustine and Chrysostom especially because of their high view of God and His word over the pride of man. I insist you read Luther and Calvin to actually see their arguments against the later doctrines of Rome, like purgatory, and their view of works-salvation, indulgences etc.
About six years ago the Lord got me to the point where I had finished a walk of moving away from the divisiveness I had been taught. I shared my conclusions with a mentor who had been like a dad to me for 30 years. I did not ask him to agree... I simply shared the joy of having come to the conclusion that I thought that several other "circles" loved and served Jesus and were probably going to heaven. He turned his back on me as a heratic and it ended our relationship. Francis and I come from the same theological background so he knows what I'm talking about. I came to Christ "in this circle" in high school and started to have my eyes opened in college when our Christian group worked with "one of those groups." My home church people warned me about the evil that could come about from that kind of thing when I visited home from college but it started my prayer journey of 30 years asking for God to sort out this conflict. Ken
I have loved Francis Chan for a long time and he has been a crucial voice and influence at the start of my close walk with God. Jesus became so real and literal to me because of his preaching. I trust the Lord to keep him. Thank you Jesus, for the gift of Francis Chan.
God saved me 20 years ago, not in any church building but in a hostel. He delivered me from heroin and methadone addiction in an instant (no withdrawal) but more importantly saved me from the eternal punishment my many sins deserved. I have attended two fellowships in that time. Both were immense blessings and both eventually became dangerous. The first fellowship became (strange) fire damaged from Todd Bentley's transferable anointing - which travelled over to the UK via a local pastor and the laying on of hands. This fellowship became infected with other spirits but as long as 'something' happened, it was all good. I got out just in time but not without confusion and a faded desire to evangelise. The second fellowship helped to set me free from confusion by patiently ministering the correct handling of God's word. It took two years before I could clearly read and understand Scripture again. This particular fellowship focused 100% on sound teaching but with little room or time for any of the gifts of the Spirit (though they weren't cessationists) and so very little ministry outside of teaching and prayer ever happened. I discerned a fear of losing control amongst many of my brothers and sisters. There was also a genuine terror of sharing the Gospel out in the world. I left there last year after they obeyed the government over God and continued to do so. I would love to find a fellowship that both practices the gifts, loves evangelism AND measures everything against Scripture, not being afraid to test absolutely everything. I'm not looking for unity in the minors because that just isn't possible this side of eternity. I am, however, cautious because I have seen the damage that can happen when leaderships don't enquire of the Lord at every step. I am wary of 'church' and weary from it but unless I meet together with others I shall eventually fall - please pray for me. Above all, I want to rediscover the joy of evangelism in a fellowship that might encourage me as I seek to encourage them in Christ.
Two amazing things I heard. Heard it before but I HEARD it just a few minute ago, “ I am the way, the truth and the life” I was smiling ear to ear, to have that light bulb switched on Thank you for that breakdown. Second thing “ we have been trendsetters in division “ that was beautiful. God bless you both.
Eternally grateful to have found this video 🙌I was baptized by Francis Chan at his church (Cornerstone) in Simi Valley, California (2/26/2006) and it is so good to find him here in this interview doing so well🙌the last I heard he was heading to Hong Kong with his family right when the Pandemic hit - so, I am happy to hear that everyone is doing good 🙏 I am also so happy to hear about his new and changing Biblical views and cannot wait to read his new book🙌I have struggled with the division in our country (and my own family- MacArthur grads) and our churches 😖I pray for Francis and his family and always find encouragement in his words 🙌 praying for sacred unity in our broken world 🙏thank you for this awesome interview!🙌
As a post label disciple of Yeshua I have heard God's calling to unity which is why I started my RUclips channel all about unity, have educated myself on the divisions of the past and I am discipling others to come together in the unity we are called to. Thanks for this conversation I hope more of us come to this place.
True unity, the Bible talks about, is unity of the faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This is the only true unity. We are to love others, but we cannot enter into unity with those of beliefs that differ from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
@@cookingdownsouthwithcarol8909 ...and not additions like "give to my ministry that your faith will increase, because only then will you have prosperity and favor with God."
Yes Carol! I agree. Various religions coming together can be dangerous. Of course, we don’t know everyone’s hearts no matter what “church” they belong to, but we must stay steadfast on the word and being a living testimony of it and not focus on uniting with churches. Because there is only one church. One bride. One truth.
It seems like the unity Francis champions is more of a unity of denominations rather than a unity of local believers. The unity we need is the unity of love as Jesus commanded.
As an aside, I wouldn't want the "mantle" of whatever Hinn could offer. Seems more like a curse than a blessing. Chan already experienced megachurch and he left it behind.
I am feeling compelled to share with my Protestant brothers and sisters what real Catholics actually believe: We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth. And in Jesus Christ, His only son our Lord. Conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, he suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day, he rose again from the dead. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty. From there, he will come to judge the living and the dead. We believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting. I think this leads to Francis’ unity theme... the tenants of our faith are more similar than different! Love and peace in Christ Jesus ✝️💜
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries. Child of God keep your dreams alive. understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA) Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family. you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention These Children's are in NEED of HELP. Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA, you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com) (Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,.,,,,....,,..
Well said, sister in Christ. The basics of the Christian faith are universal, including the New Testament and the Creeds. Keep fighting for unity for it is the will of Jesus: "As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified. My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that ALL OF THEM BE ONE, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us SO THE WORLD MAY BELIEVE that you sent me." (John 18-21) May you be continually enlightened by the light of Christ and filled with the Spirit to do his perfect will all your days, and may this grace extend to your loves and those to whom he sends you.
To my brothers and sisters in CHRIST I MAY NOT BE WHAT OTHERS WOULD CALL A GOOD CHRISTIAN ! BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO KNOW CHRIST AND GIVE UP THE SEPARATION OF DENOMINATIONS THAT MAKE US WEAK AND GET BACK TO JUST LOVING THE LORD JESUS AND BEING A FAMILY HE WOULD BE PROUD OF ! MONEY, FAME , INFLUENCE , ALL MEAN NOTHING ! ONLY SPREADING THE WORD OF GOD AND SHOWING HIS LOVE HAS ANY MEANING. That's why I Love Francis Chan and I hope he's able to Reach even more people
There are many communities, where the believers across many denominations are walking and living in John 17 unity, being an answer to Jesus prayer-it IS happening! God is moving!! We are living and witnessing it!
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries. Child of God keep your dreams alive. understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA) Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family. you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention These Children's are in NEED of HELP. Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA, you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com) (Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,.,,,,....,,..
This greatly encouraged me. I too am struggling with Gods desire for unity and the desire to follow truth. After finally finding a very spirit filled church only a mile from our new home. I hear who some of the quotes from teachers I don’t agree with. A belief in many of the conspiracy theories by some not all. I feel the Lord shows me a different vision. One thing I know is he desires unity more and is going to do something’s different than we are use to. Thanks for this message.
@@christopherburns2922 this church is not without reservations. I feel the Lord did lead us here. Will continue to seek God for discernment. Please pray for us. As I do struggle with some of the things I hear members refer to the Victory network, other Jewish history books, apocrypha etc....
Thanks for this interview. It was such a relief to hear Francis' heart and how he's been mischaracterized by so many online. I've heard the criticisms and am relieved they are unfounded.
As a catholic who had a deep encounter with God’s love in a Catholic Charismatic Movement, I understand the diversity in the church. I really appreciate Francis’ work and humility. As I was listening into the conversation and the mentioning of different denominations, I couldn’t help to bring in my mind all different religion orders and movements with in the Catholic Church. Guys keep up the work it seems that our broken nature delights on feeding out of pride which leads the body of Christ into division.
What Francis Chan described (53:03-56:20) is exactly what unity looks like. I thank God for being introduced to your preaching. It has changed my life and I can no longer settle.
i have found a Catholic channel during the pandemic that has blown my mind and blessed me. I am convinced the evangelicals are too hard and judgmental of Catholics. Praising God for your salvation. Jesus Christ is Lord.
I grew up Catholic and went to a Jesuit university. I grew up very spiritual because of the Jesuit teachings. I then went to a non denomination church to now a Calvary Church. I left the Catholic Church and went into the new age because of the lack of unity. Christ saved me and pulled me into a Calvary Church with a loving Pastor.
@@vickytheodorides so sorry you had to say to someone that they are pathetic. Totally understandable that if you cannot see Jesus and unity in any church... You actually might find more grace love and unity outside the church. That's such a sad fact and a sad thing about the church and not at all what Jesus wants. It's sad that often you meet people who are not belivers that are living lives that look so much more like Jesus and those that call themselves believers look nothing like the transformed person becoming more like Jesus that new birth in Christ should bring. As Jordan Peterson said...it really would put you off, the fact that you don't see many Christians living the sort of transformed life that Jesus asks and looks like.
The irony for myself that the entire reason behind me following Francis Chan's teachings is because I was done with the division within churches and among Christians but still desired to grow and seek biblical understanding and truths. I had a very tough time getting past a period in my very early youth where my parents fell into a cultish type of teaching within a church. ( Baptist at that) One that had followers so outside of the bible with the leadership that it made my life difficult in areas I shouldn't of grappled with. It all toppled after the Pastor was revealed for the crook liar and cheat he was, and cost him a leg from being shot by a betrayed husband! You might imagine it left a bad taste in my mouth for organized religion and church. I had trouble trusting teachers and leadership and always found a big problem if I sought out a church home to dwell in. I went so deeply into the world and sin I barely had any desire to try to get on a path toward his will for my life. ( still struggling) After God revealed things to me in a way I couldnt deny or run from I decided to start again like a babe in Christ to build a personal REAL relationship with Jesus. I prayed for God to let that hurt and bitterness fall away and asked if he would be merciful to guide me to someone truly of his anointing. I accepted him as my savior as a young pre-teen but the relationship was built on bad examples and experiences rather than just good people serving him ( the bad experience was brief as far as it ended at 12yrs old or so, and my parents did find truth and I had that shared with me always) Church however, I was not ready to navigate..it was not in my plans in a real way Because of my yrust issues I was not expecting much to come from a google search of sermons expecting the razzle dazzle and deception with a touch of pay me to pray for you at wrap. My 1st click was a sermon of Francis Chans and instantly I was effected by his sincerity and heart for God. The sermon was word for word meant for my ears and condirmation to my current studies I was doing on my own. Gods way of giving me peace about the teacher and his true intent.... I did briefly find a home church but you nailed it, there is no unity and I always end up feeling judged, scorned, or discouraged for trying to find my footing. Due to a new pastor being voted in after the previous passed on, the gossip, division, amd slander eventually got to me amd I quit going. Despite feeling I had also found a pastpr to get behind. I actually got repeatedly told I was making a big mistake going there and it made me dread church. Thing is he just was willing to cater to old traditional ways if he was Led to go another route. He sought to encourage the youth to love God and he made it a point to have these youth step into action as worship leaders, pray leaders, things like that while still being inclusive and truly preaching scripture. He was only guilty of having new ideas that sought out lost souls. He wanted to disciple and make disciples of the ones out here facing hard choices and different times instead of doing the same old Sunday "routine" He dared to preach and lead boldly. That was his crime.......... The point is people don't realize the hurt they can inflict on babes in Christ by chastising and downing rather than loving people where theyre at and allowing God to change the person from within. Anyway....God put Francis Chan in my path, and his love for Jesus was something I was envious of. I wanted to be so in Love with Jesus I cant wait to spend time with him everyday.. To see him as an actual manifestation of another being that I have a back and forth with rather than just the supernatural thunder in the sky. No mockery intended, I just saw the relationship between us and him in a new light and needed that. I was ready to submit to his will for my life. I find that the other things became such a discouragement and distraction, which is exactly what the devil wants. To seperate us from our creator. Division among the people, the beliefs, the ideology, and the theory sure does take away from the focus of his word and his commandments to his people. How can we fight the enemy if were to busy fighting with one another???? Don't stop seeking and growing Mr. Chan! Spend the time searching for truth, finding areas that needed replanted in your walk and teachings rather than taking time defending yourself over accusations and debating. Accountabilty is necessary, I understand that point from the criticisms... I just feel like thats not what is happening. It was a full on heretic false prophecy attack on your charachter and they're going to answer for that as well one day if they had tainted motives.... Because of your humility, and seeing you admit publicly it weighed on you enough you have had to seek truth- even if it went against your prior teachings and beliefs is INSPIRING . I can get behind and learn from a man isn't always 100 % right nd says so, or that evolves in his understanding of Gods word enough to say maybe I was off here.... Even when you had tp face criticism and have your faith questioned or are slandered you stood up for what you felt God led you to do. I think thats what I connect with in order to hear Gods word and feel confident about the teacher I place trust in. You are real... Amd very human... So annoited and spiritually gifted... ... Only one perfect human in the flesh ever was or will be. We can't be that to a point we needed a lamb to intercede for our faults. Why then do we point out what we Arrogantly see as wrong to our very brothers and sister's in him? I'm guessing because its easier than working on self... Cant we love one another, encourage, and pray for each other rather than point fingers or slander someone? I understand as a leader you are held to certain standards biblically speaking, and do need accountability partnerships on your continued walk with God. But I feel like the church and the christian brothers and sisters ( not all people or churches of course, but a great percentage) are pushing the lost or the seeking but not firmly planted folks away from the Lord, mostly because arrogance overides humilty. If there was ever a place the gospel an anoited God appointed leader should be spoken and shared at, I gonna go on and say at a prosperity or charismatic showman type movement would be to a GREAT place to start. Thousands gathered to seek truth, peace, salvation, or just came because curiosity brought them there needed to hear the true gospel message. They may of been led astray in huge ways had Mr. Chan not followed his heart. Francis Chan, you are fruitful and it shows. You're a blessing, and I am learning from you and your family always. What great examples you all are.j Thank you for fearlessly teaching his word, but still being humble enough to say that you're still learning more about his word and seeking TRUTH too. Not being to proud to realize we may interpret or niss things God reveals to us in his time. We see you out here doing something productive to win souls to the Lord. Not wasting time spinning wheels to "expose" the perceived faults of your fellow brethren........ I cant believe the irony of that entire situation! If it didn't possibly cost other people a relationship with God it might actually be a bit comical.......
He is 💯. I was raised catholic. There are people in the Catholic Church that twist things. But I’m sure there are people in all religions that twist the truth. Butttt the true faith of catholic loves Jesus as our Lord and Savior and believes the Bible is the word of God and there are some things that are different but that’s just a different way of worship but it does not mean they aren’t following the truth.
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries. Child of God keep your dreams alive. understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA) Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family. you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention These Children's are in NEED of HELP. Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA, you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com) (Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,.,,,,....,,..
Its very interesting conversation. If someone were to ask Jesus what religion are you..... You see...its not about a religion... Its all about Jesus! When we get to heaven there won't be a Catholic section, a Baptist section, etc. It will be did you believe on Jesus! I've seen all kinds of craziness in different churches....#1 Do they preach Jesus, do they believe He is the way, do they believe in the Virgin birth, the trinity, the resurrection, etc. These are all basics for a true Christians. And, we are to love one another, care for one another, well with those who weep, mourn with those who mourn, be a light into a world of darkness. God Bless you all.
How do you know if they know it or not, have they already shared it with you. So then you turn around and share it right back to them oh, I would say that put you in the category with the pools.
In order to achieve Church Unity we must: 1. Agree that HIS Truth is the ultimate thing we need to have Faith in. We have to stop saying “well I believe this or that”... what does he command us to believe in? 2. We need an authority to protect and defend His Truth that we are all willing to submit to just as we would submit to Jesus. 3. Jesús actually setup such and authority in His Church that started with Peter and the Disciples and then was handed down from generation to generation. We need to know our Church History for the first 400 years before there was any set Scripture. 4. We must be willing to go where that leads us because where we have been clearly isn’t working. How do we know it isn’t working: 1. There are 30,000 different denominations each with its own set and variations of “beliefs” and “traditions”. This all due to the idea of Sola Scriptura and that each of us can read and be the Authority over the interpretation of what we read. 2. It is now “in the water” that there is “no objective Truth”. The Christian church has lost that battle. In fact we have contributed to it. See #1. Also ask your kids if they think it is possible to know right from wrong. You will be shocked. 3. Because of #1 and #2 we no longer have the ability to tell anyone “we have the Truth”. In fact how often do you even here “the truth” bring something that is taught or preached about? We love love, but we don’t teach God’s Truth about love. 4. Our society thinks it is ok to riot and destroy and kill people in the name of fighting for “justice”. But see #2. If you have no idea what justice is, what are you really fighting for? They are fighting for power and control. That battle if it continues will neither get them what they think they want nor will it end without more destruction and bloodshed. All this while the church remains silent and there even those that think they are “loving their neighbor” by agreeing with the violent. Where is the Church teaching that power and control are idols and will never satisfy? Where is the church teaching that in order to be saved you must submit to your Lord day and be a servant to all? 5. The murder of babies is called “women’s healthcare”. 6. The accusation of voter fraud is considered “right wing”. 7. To be “Right wing/conservative/Christian” is now a bad thing. 8. And so many other examples of our society “losing its mind”... 9. What is our response as Christians? It should be: 1. The God of the Universe is the Author of all Truth. 2. Jesus instituted a church of Authority through Peter and the Disciples. 3. The Church has maintained unity and become a worldwide influence from these vary roots. 4. Rather than thinking what you know about the evils of the Catholic Church, actually learn for yourself. Learn the early church History, read the Catholic catechism, then go back to the New Testament and see if it all matches up. 5. Return to the Catholic Church in the name of the Truth of Jesus Christ and God our Creator.
Your POLITICAL talk in this writing means you are satanic. I don't vote because Political Parties are SATANIC. You accuse your opposition of ignorance and merely "fighting for power and control", but your political talk shows you're doing the exact thing you're accusing your opposition of. You HYPOCRITE !! Blind Guides leading the blind. Yes, IF so-called "Christians" and Church Leaders can go back to the Teachings of the APOSTLES, there would be more true-unity (in clusters) and Remnants who (for example) won't observe the LIE of a winter-birth of A Christ, just as the Early Church didn't observe such LIES. Another example of what you would find in Remnants would be the embrace of the Hijab in 1Cor 11 as the women cover themselves, and not try to be SHOWING-OFF self-beauty (satanic - Ezek 28v17 . Isaiah 14v12-15 . 1Cor 1v29).
I feel like I come from the other side of the journey in comparison to Francis Chan. My family grew up strong supporters of people like Benny Hinn and all the charismatic teachers. My grandmother has faithfully given to their ministries. I’d just have to ask Francis, would he embrace and encourage his own wife & kids listening to the teaching of Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen, etc? At what point is calling a spade a spade a priority with the New Testament church as much as attaining unity? I think leaders like Francis take it for granted that they don’t have to sit under heretical teaching on a weekly basis with their families and see it’s ugly fruits. In so many cases, there is no unity unless someone changes their mind. I can share some intimate moments with someone like Todd White but I would be foolish to sit under his teaching with my family. He spoke about Ephesians and the attaining of unity but what about Jesus approach to the yeast of the pharisees or the apostles in 2 Corin, especially Galatians where a teacher of a false gospel is to be pronounced accursed, 2 Timothy, 2 Peter, 3 John & again Jesus rebuking his own church for putting up with false teaching in Revelation? He didn’t approve of them acting in a spirit of unity while not calling out blatantly false teachings. It’s not as simple as simply turning a blind eye to embrace a brother. I would love to see Francis keep his heart for unity and to balance it with a healthy regard for doctrinal purity. “Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you.” 1 Timothy 4:16 It just seems to be a cop out to say he doesn’t know someone well... when what they’ve taught is clearly harming the church - even he himself is admitting it. I’m not saying he can’t fellowship with anyone but that to do so indifferently is simply unwise. John told the church to not even receive someone into their house who teaches a faith contrary to the one handed down to them-why? Because he hates people. No. Because he’s concerned for those in the flock who don’t know better. Likewise these leaders can’t be held to the same standards as everyday christians. Theyve taken upon themselves a mantle that requires them to have doctrinal fidelity to the scriptures and the qualifications of 1 Timothy 2. I’m happy to hear the things Benny Hinn is saying, but that doesn’t change the fact that 90% of his career as a minister has been as a manipulative heretic, who has used the ministry for great personal gain. All I’m asking is can we atleast make a stand that although we encourage his repentance-we not only can’t recommend him as a minister, we condemn his teaching. I agree with Benny Hinn, I don’t think God wants him to teach any longer. He should be allowed to be a member, not an elder. He’s proven himself unfaithful in shepherding the flock, handling the word and unqualified to teach - repeatedly.
I think that the small house churches allow you to really know your brother and sisters without someone becoming the star attractive. I think it's time to go back to the church at the beginning. I'm going to look into the new beginnings church group.
Francis Chan, I am Catholic and I’m blessed by you and your humble search of the truth. I was blown away when you said, (paraphrase) “truth is not found in books... otherwise the illiterate can’t know truth... truth is Jesus.” I can learn more from Jesus than I can from books. This happened to the likes of Catherine of Siena who although she never went to school knew deep truths about our Lord.
I'm a missionary in Southern Ecuador and I am working in a town of purely Catholic people. This town has never had any other church other than the Roman Catholic Church. I would be really curious to hear Francis Chan talk about what he or how he would approach communion in a place where it is idolatry. I have a lot of friends here and it is clearly the general mentality that going mass, confessing sins to the priest, taking communion, and praying to Mary and the saints is all they need to do to be good with God.
I loved this. So true that we need unity in the church, now more than ever before. I am no Bible scholar, far from it, i go to an evangelical anglican church in UK. But since start of lockdown last year I have been drawn towards the old ways, liturgies and prayers from Celtic Christianity and the early christian saints.... The verse that kept coming to mind was "look for the old paths, and walk in them". (Can't remember where it is). The thing that is most apparent from that time is the focus on Christ, the Trinity and the Love of God for all, and that God is in all and through all of creation. In the Celtic church women were just as important as men, leaders of communities, and even ordained as a Bishop. Sadly the Synod of Whitby in 664 decided that the Roman Church (arguably politicised by the Roman Empire) would be the official form of Christianity in Britain, so the Celtic christian Liturgies and wisdom were pushed to the North and Western fringes of the British isles. Almost wiped out completely by puritanism in the 18th century, it has remained as a remnant, but in these times I think we need those ancient deep roots more than ever. I know that in the liturgies and prayers there is a deep deep peace that is unexplainable but deeply beautiful.
It is crazy that people are attacking this man right now. I posted a video talking about how people are attacking him and my thoughts on it. He has truly impacted my life in so many ways!
The fact that Chan doesn't condemn Hinn should raise red flags. Hinn's preaching and fake healings has cost lives, not to mention he has basically stolen from people.
Chan saying anything about him will just bring more division no one is perfect but hinn definitely has some false teaching but we're not to bicker back and forth forever
I was a skeptic of Benny Hinn. I live in Orlando and had the opportunity to go to a “Jesus Night” and Benny Hinn was preaching and I was blown away about how much scripture he knows and how accurate his preaching was. This was after he publicly repented on his preaching. He seems like he genuinely changed for the better.
hope so....the church needs scripture...the church needs models of repentance...the church needs to give grace. I get humbled when i think of who i will see in heaven.
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OH YEAH, brother Benny knows the word, and always has. However, this is the problem, and it's by no means his fault. It's a secret (not really, as it's black and white in the Book) and I share it with you today, that you may study it out--Pentecost is a leavened feast.
@@ceciliaramos2280 Sister Cecilia, keep fighting for the faith, but fight for the whole Christian faith, not only parts of it, remembering that "Christ is all and in all." Here's the whole text of Colossians 3:1-11: "So if you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth, for you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is your life is revealed, then you also will be revealed with him in glory. Put to death, therefore, whatever is in you that is earthly: fornication, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed (which is idolatry). On account of these the wrath of God is coming on the disobedient. These are the ways you also once followed, when you were living that life. But not you must get rid of all such things as well: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive language for your mouth. Do not lie to one another, seeing you have stripped the old self with its practices, and have clothed yourselves with the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge according to the image of its creator. In that renewal there is no longer Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and free, but Christ is all and in all."
I don’t have a background in theology. I accepted Christ as a young child and has been walking the journey ever since. I was raised in a very strict Reformed church and was made very aware of my sins continuously and how I was not worthy of God’s mercy. That lead to some serious self confidence issues - ie. denying myself to the point that I did not feel worthy of even existing. After school I jumped between churches but to be honest: Keep your eyes on Christ, follow the truth in the Bible. Be able to discern for yourself based on your knowledge of scripture what false teachings are. And most important: Love Christ and love others. I love Francis Frangipane’s teachings.
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries. Child of God keep your dreams alive. understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA) Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family. you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention These Children's are in NEED of HELP. Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA, you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com) (Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,,..,,,,...,,..
I am so blessed by this conversation. I just got out of a hyper reformed and conservative church who think people are in a destructive paths in if their theology doesn't line up exactly with our church's theology. It was a toxic environment. You both described perfectly what i felt was wrong when Christians care more about "truth" than unity and loving people.
So he's actually reading and meeting people and not being a cult member? Amazing. Christianity is a very big family and getting out of an echo chamber is the first step toward unity.
Romans 16:17 Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. Right from the bible doctrine is very important more than unity I think God's word is much, much more important. Well the first time ALL of mankind was united they got together to defy God to build the tower of Babel.
Master Ho, you are providing one scripture, there are other scriptures like”Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.” 1 Peter 4:8 The whole Bible must be taken in context, and we must strive for unity. Even if you cannot have unity, you can still love and pray for others. Bible bashing and theology preserving above love is wrong.
Francis you're my favourite preacher to listen to, because you point me to God and tell me how good my God is and how good it will be to go up the mountain and get to know my God by myself! And more than that I see the relationship/grace God has given you and I want it too. I am a Catholic and honestly I can't wait to find out where you end up with the questions about the Eucharist....and I know this is a bit weird but I knew you were going to talk about this before you did and I had no clue these thoughts were going through your head. And I nearly cried, no I cried while listening to this, like I feel like God's bringing His church together.....I can't wait!!!!🥺🤧😭💕🙈
Just a thought on both you two brothers in the LORD, why not get a Catholic apologist on the channel and dialogue about what you think the Catholic church is all about and see the other side of the coin, you both might be surprised...don't be afraid! many have done such and been surprised at the misconceptions. Blessings...
@@glotree Scott is awesome....Lord used him to convict me of the truth of my Catholic faith! Listening to him is like trying to take a drink from a fire hose! Just so much to take in.
Loved this interview. Thy Kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven! Jesus said I am with you always ... He enters into us when we receive Him in the Holy Eucharist we become one with HIM. We are UNITED IN ONE BODY OF CHRIST. WE are transformed even for a little while. Then we should become (& mindful) what we eat!
Though I’m so low on the totem pole-as far as being a well known speaker is concerned-it blows my mind how deeply I’ve been thinking about the same thing lately in the last year to the point of studying the writings of the first century church founders whose concern also was the unity of the church. If this was Jesus’ prayer how can we ignore it. May God use both of you to bring this to fruition.
I hope no reader will suppose that "mere" Christianity is here put forward as an alternative to the creeds of the existing communions-as if a man could adopt it in preference to Congregationalism or Greek Orthodoxy or anything else. It is more like a hall out of which doors open into several rooms. If I can bring anyone into that hall I shall have done what I attempted. But it is in the rooms, not in the hall, that there are fires and chairs and meals. The hall is a place to wait in, a place from which to try the various doors, not a place to live in. For that purpose the worst of the rooms (whichever that may be) is, I think, preferable. It is true that some people may find they have to wait in the hall for a considerable time, while others feel certain almost at once which door they must knock at. I do not know why there is this difference, but I am sure God keeps no one waiting unless He sees that it is good for him to wait. When you do get into your room you will find that the long wait has done you some kind of good which you would not have had otherwise. But you must regard it as waiting, not as camping. You must keep on praying for light: and, of course, even in the hall, you must begin trying to obey the rules which are common to the whole house. And above all you must be asking which door is the true one; not which pleases you best by its paint and paneling. In plain language, the question should never be: "Do I like that kind of service?" but "Are these doctrines true: Is holiness here? Does my conscience move me towards this? Is my reluctance to knock at this door due to my pride, or my mere taste, or my personal dislike of this particular doorkeeper?" When you have reached your own room, be kind to those Who have chosen different doors and to those who are still in the hall. If they are wrong they need your prayers all the more; and if they are your enemies, then you are under orders to pray for them. That is one of the rules common to the whole house. Mere Christianity by C.S.Lewis
Got saved into the Pentecostal church, went a little too charismatic with IHOP & Bethel, re-examined my faith, got into Reformed theology, became a little heavy handed, borderline cessationist, came back to the gifts and my charismatic roots…10 years later here I am… A mutt lol
This is so good. We are in an evangelical church that does not preach the spirit filled life. I am frustrated but my husband feels we need to stay and pray for change. It’s so hard to know what to do!!
Hi Becky! I also grew up in a Baptist church in Canada. For 21 years I was very heavily involved in Sunday school and leading worship almost every Sunday. Then we got a new pastor. Most of the previous pastors have had some "Respect" for the Holy Spirit. This new pastor came in, emptied the whole library of books that had to do with Hearing God's voice, waiting on God's timing, God having a will for your life.... And he replaced them with a whole lot of theological jibber jabber that most people do not even understand. I was very burdened because I have been part of a church since I was little. But the Holy Spirit warned me very clearly that I would not grow in faith, but in religion if I stayed under such leadership! So I fasted and prayed and asked the Lord for guidance. He eventually led me away from this church. I went through much persecution for leaving. My whole family stayed(my parents left for a very different reason a few years after me) Now 7 years later many of my friends and siblings with their husbands are now very alarmed at some of the theology that is being taught especially when it comes to the Holy Spirit and His role and function. I believe it's only a matter of time until many churches will sink like the Titanic, unless they repent of unbelief! 12 spies went to Spy out the promised land and only Joshua and Caleb believed they could do what God promised! Joshua and Caleb had to go through a 40 year wilderness detour until all unbelieving children of Israel died and then they were allowed to go into the promised land with the younger generation. I believe there is sooo much "religious atheism" in modern day churchianity and the Holy Spirit has been replaced with books and pastors. We all have personal access to God the Father through Jesus the Son and can hear the Remah voice of the Holy Spirit! But this calls for radical obedience and full surrender to Jesus Christ no matter what He asks of each of us. I believe the church age as we know it is over and we will slowly but surely see the remnant church go underground as the Lord prepares us for the coming persecution. We are the church! Not the building! May you and your husband come to a place of absolute neutrality(we will stay or we will go, not our wills but God's be done) and the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth!!!! 1John 2 v 27. May the Lord lead you and give you faith to jump out of the boat even though you may not yet know the next step! This is where all our worship songs become real. Like the song Oceans by Hillsong. May God bless you and lead you where He wants you to go! In the end we all have to stand before God alone and give an account to Him ourselves. May we truly follow Him and not denominationalism or religion but the Holy Spirit who is like the wind! Be so blessed!!!!
I deeply love Francis Chan.He is very honest,humble and teachable.I the opportunity of meeting him in person at his HQ in San Francisco and got to see that he is a true minister who doesn't pretend to know it all....I loved the boxer's analogy...we are constantly knocked out by our brethren!
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Francis absolutely nailed it when he said when he sees humility in these different denomination pastors, the willingness to say maybe the were wrong on a doctrine and they want to know the truth.... WOW. THIS is where we will start to come together. This is how we move forward. Humility. Seeking. Love.
The fact that some christians are attacking Francis is shocking. I also crave this unity from my previous congregations and where I am now, Ephesians 4 is that motivation for that unity.
I am that person. We started a Bible study via zoom. We also have weekly prayer. The church has gotten so caught up in worldly functions, politics, etc. I desire a Godly worship service, but the other issue is the msg’s are so watered down it scares me because these ministers are not teaching truth and we have a generation of ppl that are lost. I respect MacArthur, but I too believe more love needs to be shown, we can give ppl the truth but they must see the love of Jesus in us. I think politics has crept in too much in the church so that’s a huge problem in the church too. But I believe all saints need to study the word to show thyself approved. We need to seek and God will be found. But I believe our heart has to be lined up with God’s word so that we can draw the unsaved and even saved that don’t know the word. Prayer has to also be very important in a believers life. We must imitate Christ and He always showed loved to the broken-hearted but he rebuked ones that only had an outer appearance but their heart was stone. I agree with a lot of what I heard you say. But there are too many rules in all these denominations and in the apostles times we were just Christians and not a denomination. Denominations came about because men couldn’t agree and the church split. Being in disagreement is not the worst thing but I don’t think God would have us disagree to a point where ppl can’t come together because as a Christian I believe in unity. I only call myself a Christian, I don’t use a denomination when I talk to others about Jesus. I follow what was set up originally, Christian. Thank you for this interview it was very informative.
I've often said that God has room for a variety of flavors as there are a lot of personalities in the body. However one important thing is that holding to truth is important.
Thank you for this video! I've been struggling to find which part of scripture to read and study next, and was feeling a lack of passion for any part. I was praying on it and eventually let it go for the moment, and now I'm feeling so excited to read John again! God is working through you so thank you for your obedience!
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries. Child of God keep your dreams alive. understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA) Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family. you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention These Children's are in NEED of HELP. Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA, you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com) (Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,.,,,,....,,..
In addition to the Holy Bible, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is one of the most beautiful writings. It is the Truth that has been preserved for over 2,000 years.
I have appreciated Francis Chan for a long time now. But I think the Moravian Church has got the idea right (from Augustine?), in the essentials, unity; in the nonessentials, liberty; and in all things, love. That phrase resonates with me and with scripture.
What constitutes the essentials? I am asking because almost every denomination has their emphasis on something being part of the “essential”. baptists think adult baptism is essential, Pentecostals think tongues and the gifts of the spirit are essential, Catholics think the papacy is essential. Etc... etc.... Can we at least define our common ground of what TRULY is essential?
@@landowar2162, humility is a big part of realizing what essentials are and are not. But my response would be the gospel. Christ as the center, fully God/man, he died and rose again for our redemption, God is triune. Could probably lay out some more but it is the ones all Christ followers can affirm and what would classify someone a Christian. Secondary issues are ones that you could varying on but still be a Christian. Best answer I got currently
Also to say unity and how we should love one another with holy reverence, how is the love the John Mac was explaining to Francis something to be dismissed? Biblical love does include truth and justice.
Francis Chan quoted Isaiah 29:13 The Lord says: “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips,but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught."
Totally on the same page as these guys. Now if only I could find more like minded people in my community... I definitely feel pretty "homeless" when it comes to the whole having a specific denomination/theology.
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries. Child of God keep your dreams alive. understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA) Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family. you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention These Children's are in NEED of HELP. Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA, you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com) (Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,.,,,,....,,..
Word AND Spirit. Both are absolutely essential for a doctrinally sound, Spirit filled ministry. “If you claim to be a prophet or think you are spiritual, you should recognize that what I am saying is a command from the Lord himself. But if you do not recognize this, you yourself will not be recognized. So, my dear brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and don’t forbid speaking in tongues. But be sure that everything is done properly and in order.” 1 Corinthians 14:37-40
Talk is one thing and actions are another. Francis Chan's relationship with many in the NAR. This is action. I worked under the jack-boot of TBN. Francis Chan needs our prayer.
Sort of. Feelings aren't reliable, true enough, but the experiential faith and the revealed faith are one and the same. By discernment we separate the wheat from the chaff, whether in our incomplete, imperfect understanding of the Bible or in our worldly existence. All is one, and requires the Holy Spirit, without which we have nothing by which to know truth.
Jesus certainly couldnt identify with the Scribes and Pharisees. I have had the opportunity to get to know True Believers of Christ in various denominations it has been such a Blessing. The one that Blessed me and surprised me was A Lutheran Pastor. Made Gods Word Come Alive, it was so real. I have met people from various denominations who have said "oh, you are a Baptist". I say "No I am not a Denomination, i have been a part of various Denominations in my life, Ultimately I am a Believer in Jesus Christ, therefore, A Child of The Most High God.
I ask this sincerely: With all this, how do we deal with scripture that instructs us not to “have anything to do” with those who are advocating/teaching outright false doctrines? Where’s the balance between that and love/unity/humility, etc?
@@bgkob Sorry, this reply was actually for b lyle, I hope that brother/sister reads it. I'm not going to type it again. I hope you appreciate it as well. We deal with difficult scriptures with other, more difficult, more important scriptures. For example, you personally, in your faith, before God have nothing to do with false teachings, and that means knowing enough scripture and having the spirit to recognize them when you see them, but other scriptures guide us: 1. "To those who doubt have mercy..." 2. "Avoid controversies over the law which are profitless..." 3. "Grow in the grace that is IN Christ Jesus..." 4. "But we ARE CONVINCED of better things concerning you..." 5. "ABLE to present every man complete before the Lord..." These are all from memory and paraphrased. But I hope you get the idea.
We are to love everyone and preach the gospel to them but we are never to unite with false teachers. Preston and Francis Chan are both lost. They don’t know their Bible. If you know your Bible inside and out you will know a false teacher in an instant.
@@ceciliaramos2280 I’ve already been on the false teacher train for many years calling everyone heretics with the scriptures to back them as you are talking about. God showed me different and I thank him for it. I don’t even watch Francis Chan or Steven Furtick but I will no longer call them heretics. There are many more fruitful things you can do for the kingdom than this.
The problem with using early church history is many were wrong. Many held to none scriptural books as scripture and it influenced their views. They differed in many areas with each other.
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries. Child of God keep your dreams alive. understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA) Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family. you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention These Children's are in NEED of HELP. Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA, you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com) (Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,,..,,,,...,,..
Love this!! I believe If we were more concerned with our own heart condition we would be more focused on Jesus and the gospel message and let Him do the rest.
I like Francis as much as ever, but I’ve realized this is a man who lives totally from his gut (his heart, in Christianese). That’s what has made him such a compelling preacher over the years. But when his gut fails him, he has no other way of getting back on track. So if he meets a Rick Warren and his gut tells him that Rick “loves the Lord”, he takes that as proof Rick has the Holy Spirit and then runs with it, commanding everyone else to be in “unity” with Warren. Chan is a VERY busy guy, and I doubt he’s ever listened to half a dozen of Warren’s “how to improve yourself” sermons where he ALWAYS mishandles Scripture terribly and NEVER preaches anything but self help with a God veneer. In fact, Warren is OPPOSED to preaching the Biblical gospel either to his church or to a secular Ted talk crowd, because it would be offensive, not “seeker-sensitive. “ Or watch several different Warren interviews and see how he tells each new person exactly what they want to hear, chameleon-like. He did this to John Piper, agreeing with 95% of Piper’s systematic theology. What Piper didn’t get is that doctrinal theology means NOTHING to Warren and his way of doing “ministry” - something Piper can’t even conceive of, I’m sure. In the same way, I’m sure Chan can’t conceive of a Christian pastor being the chameleon that Warren is, because Chan is INCAPABLE of being anything but authentic, no matter who his audience is. (Compare Warren agreeing with Piper about, say, the reality of hell for those who reject Christ, vs. Warren on Oprah’s “spiritual” program, where “all roads lead to God”. The disconnect is jaw-dropping). Chan glowingly recounts Benny Hinn’s private repentance at a lunch before the Send, but then admits he hasn’t followed up to check on what Benny is actually doing since then ! Hinn hasn’t thrown away his “mantle” or his beyond-extravagant lifestyle, or rejected the prosperity gospel AT ALL. HE SAID he would change his shameless appeals for $$ in only a narrow technical sense, but his ministry and TV presence is STILL pure seed-faith, sending ME your $$ is how you take a step of faith, etc. In short, Chan doesn’t appear to do research of any kind, and he doesn’t have even a basic intellectual grasp of the central Biblical doctrines. And he clearly is incapable of considering that he’s being manipulated by guys like Hinn, who knows exactly how to pull at Chan’s heartstrings-just as he’s been doing to his crusade audiences for decades. Francis, you’re called to be as shrewd as a serpent regarding those around you; the innocence we’re called to refers to our own moral and spiritual conduct, not to mental naïveté. So how can he have a BIBLICAL assurance that some guy “has the Spirit” and is bearing “good fruit”, when, according to Paul’s pastoral epistles, ALL of that is intimately connected to WHAT someone teaches and what SORT of “disciples” that teacher is creating ? He can’t- he has only his gut reaction to a brief meeting with another leader, one who may change his spots for every such meeting ! By contrast, what someone preaches week in, week out, and what his disciples understand the faith to consist of, can’t be faked over the long term. Chan is right on about the Biblical centrality of unity, but he’s frankly in over his head when trying to understand who is even in the faith.
Hello Don. I have already been on the same journey Francis is on. I was raised Catholic but not properly taught about the Church. I and my family were Methodist for 20 years. For about 17 of those I taught the Faith to kids. So I had to study and learn and teach. When the crises of Truth of 2020 hit where the government, race protestors, democrats all lost their mind and the Methodists are at each other’s throats over allowing homosexual pastors and marriage, I finally realized there was no Truth in that denomination - they weren’t even trying. After a year of deep study (2-5 hours a day reading Scripture and books RUclips) I finally came to these conclusions: 1. How can there be any Truth in 30,000 denominations? 2. Jesús started His Church. 3. All of the disciples and apostles and early church leaders who were the church for almost 400 years before there was any set Scripture had beliefs that are much more Catholic than any Protestant. They took their faith in God seriously. They expected each other to live out their love for Jesus seriously. 4. They took the Eucharist as the real presence of Christ seriously and centrally just like Jesus said in John 6 and as Francis has discovered. 5. Most importantly they took serious the charge from Jesus be a Church. One Church with authority and Truth of God and UNITY. It just seems deceitful today to try and tell someone to become “Christian” and that “Christians” have the Truth when we have allowed 30,000 different versions of it. We need to return to His Truth, not our own. It makes no difference what you or I “believe”. Faith means we have to believe in HIS Truth.
i really appreciate your thoughts on Francis. He is a dear guy but I agree he seems to lack discernment. Yes, the wise as serpents, innocent as doves scripture is completely appropriate and I do believe that many are masters at manipulation. Jesus Christ is Lord. There is no perfect church, there is no perfect theology. There is a Perfect God, who gave us His perfect Son and He lived Love perfectly. too many questions....too many think they know the answers. Just wanting to know Him, the power of His resurrection and the mystery of Christ in [me] my hope of glory...and the hope of all who call upon Him in truth. maranatha.
@@laurenchafin2404 The more these men talk the more I hear that they don’t see the sufficiency of the Bible for godly living, rather, there seems to be something new under the sun that they discover in addendum or in stead of the Bible.
My Dear Dear Brother! A word from the "Pew to the Pastor" their are #000's of us in the western evangelical "consumer" churches who really know what you have finally experienced! We are waiting for the move of the Holy Spirit in leadership; that they will receive the courage to shift the "mind" of the parishioner's/patrons and make "disciples" of the Lord Jesus Christ! All indications are that the major denominations are shrinking! Perhaps the thought we might consider is this "in spite of all we are doing" or "because of what we are doing" I believe it was Dallas Willard who said that over 20 years ago. Thank you Francis Chan for setting an example of where we need to go!
I was once a drug addict as a teenager. On tv one day there was a preacher that said " Jesus loves you" something happened to my heart that day and I said ok if you're up there I need, and gave s list of what I know I needed to get out of the life I'm living. Within a month I had everything on that list and was miraculously delivered. The Lord later led me yo a pentecostal church through a lady and that Sunday recieved the anointing of the Holy Spirit and I spoke in tongues. I spent a couple of years in the church and came to a knowledge of doctrines not really being taught. Moving forward, the Lord taught me there's many churches, they are different and all of them have a certain truth, all of them have certain lies. This is why we are to seek the Lord and let him leed us into all wisdom and knowledge and of his will for us. I'm born again and obedience to the word with the fear of the Lord gives you the peace of the Lord. 🙏 This is why we must not judge but speak the truth in love. ❤
Love this comment.
Amazing testimony, full of wisdom and practical guidance. We are to "be filled with the Holy Spirit" but not to camp out in the Wilderness, but "moving forward" (as you said) escape denominationalism and enter the promised land of the fulness of Christ. We as a unified body, the Church, must work toward that end now, and brother Francis is helping to lead the way.
I got saved in a Pentecostal church as a young man. The last 11 years I have been attending a Calvary Chapel and have learned to read the word verse by verse chapter by chapter. I think it’s ok to have a dividing line with doctrine but it’s NOT ok to judge other Christians and say that they are not saved because you don’t agree with their theology. This is why our walk with Jesus is a personal relationship. The Bible is our guide as we wrestle with this denominational differences that will end when we get to heaven.
I agree as long as we agree on the fundamental truths. Ie. The resurrection.
Yes, to an extent. But the apostles and Jesus himself warn us about those who profess to know God but do not keep his commandments, especially false prophets.
Examples -
Paul: 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, Ephesians 5:5.
John: 1 John 2:4, 1 John 3:10
Jesus: Matthew 7:15-20.
So we shouldn’t have fellowship with professing Christians who live knowingly in unrepentant sin - 1 Corinthians 5:9-11, 2 Thessalonians 3:14.
I also won’t have fellowship with those who preach another gospel - Galatians 1:8.
It’s generally quite obvious to tell who trusts in the Lord and loves Him, regardless of their denomination.
But it’s still of the upmost importance to strive for doctrinal purity, because it’s for the glory of God to worship Him according to His will.
@@doctor1alex I am a Catholic who agrees with you. But to achieve doctrinal purity, you should read the Bible in the light of the history of the Church, not just believe the doctrines of men (Luther, Calvin, etc). How about reading the books left by the church fathers who learned directly from the apostles? Their books are available to anyone who cares to learn.
@@mariasoniamoreno3433 I do read the writings of the early church fathers. I think all Christians should aim to also.
But we must realise that the early church writings are not authoritative in the same way the apostles are. And there are a LOT of different views in the early church.
What I admire in the writings of Luther and Calvin is that, whilst also being exceptionally knowledgeable about the writings of the early church, they derived their theology from the Scriptures and measured all teaching by it. Simply by reading Calvin’s Institutes one can see how he both commends and rebukes the historic teachings of the Christian church by comparing them with the word of God. It’s evident that Calvin loved the teachings of Augustine and Chrysostom especially because of their high view of God and His word over the pride of man.
I insist you read Luther and Calvin to actually see their arguments against the later doctrines of Rome, like purgatory, and their view of works-salvation, indulgences etc.
About six years ago the Lord got me to the point where I had finished a walk of moving away from the divisiveness I had been taught. I shared my conclusions with a mentor who had been like a dad to me for 30 years. I did not ask him to agree... I simply shared the joy of having come to the conclusion that I thought that several other "circles" loved and served Jesus and were probably going to heaven. He turned his back on me as a heratic and it ended our relationship. Francis and I come from the same theological background so he knows what I'm talking about. I came to Christ "in this circle" in high school and started to have my eyes opened in college when our Christian group worked with "one of those groups." My home church people warned me about the evil that could come about from that kind of thing when I visited home from college but it started my prayer journey of 30 years asking for God to sort out this conflict. Ken
I have loved Francis Chan for a long time and he has been a crucial voice and influence at the start of my close walk with God. Jesus became so real and literal to me because of his preaching. I trust the Lord to keep him. Thank you Jesus, for the gift of Francis Chan.
God saved me 20 years ago, not in any church building but in a hostel. He delivered me from heroin and methadone addiction in an instant (no withdrawal) but more importantly saved me from the eternal punishment my many sins deserved.
I have attended two fellowships in that time. Both were immense blessings and both eventually became dangerous. The first fellowship became (strange) fire damaged from Todd Bentley's transferable anointing - which travelled over to the UK via a local pastor and the laying on of hands. This fellowship became infected with other spirits but as long as 'something' happened, it was all good. I got out just in time but not without confusion and a faded desire to evangelise.
The second fellowship helped to set me free from confusion by patiently ministering the correct handling of God's word. It took two years before I could clearly read and understand Scripture again. This particular fellowship focused 100% on sound teaching but with little room or time for any of the gifts of the Spirit (though they weren't cessationists) and so very little ministry outside of teaching and prayer ever happened. I discerned a fear of losing control amongst many of my brothers and sisters. There was also a genuine terror of sharing the Gospel out in the world. I left there last year after they obeyed the government over God and continued to do so.
I would love to find a fellowship that both practices the gifts, loves evangelism AND measures everything against Scripture, not being afraid to test absolutely everything. I'm not looking for unity in the minors because that just isn't possible this side of eternity. I am, however, cautious because I have seen the damage that can happen when leaderships don't enquire of the Lord at every step. I am wary of 'church' and weary from it but unless I meet together with others I shall eventually fall - please pray for me. Above all, I want to rediscover the joy of evangelism in a fellowship that might encourage me as I seek to encourage them in Christ.
I love that we celebrate the Lord's supper at church weekly.
Hey what's up Eric , why you changing the subject?
Two amazing things I heard. Heard it before but I HEARD it just a few minute ago, “ I am the way, the truth and the life” I was smiling ear to ear, to have that light bulb switched on Thank you for that breakdown.
Second thing “ we have been trendsetters in division “ that was beautiful. God bless you both.
Absolutely loved this. Thank you. So inspired by Francis’ wisdom and humility. Challenging and inspiring.
Well I guess that put you with Francis Chan, neither of you have any discernment.
Eternally grateful to have found this video 🙌I was baptized by Francis Chan at his church (Cornerstone) in Simi Valley, California (2/26/2006) and it is so good to find him here in this interview doing so well🙌the last I heard he was heading to Hong Kong with his family right when the Pandemic hit - so, I am happy to hear that everyone is doing good 🙏 I am also so happy to hear about his new and changing Biblical views and cannot wait to read his new book🙌I have struggled with the division in our country (and my own family- MacArthur grads) and our churches 😖I pray for Francis and his family and always find encouragement in his words 🙌 praying for sacred unity in our broken world 🙏thank you for this awesome interview!🙌
Let's encourage one another and not waste time, attacking.
Let's stay with the 2 Greatest Commandments 💙 📖
Well said, that's good practical theology!
I agree. Let's throw all the rest of that stuff out. It's so divisive.
As a post label disciple of Yeshua I have heard God's calling to unity which is why I started my RUclips channel all about unity, have educated myself on the divisions of the past and I am discipling others to come together in the unity we are called to. Thanks for this conversation I hope more of us come to this place.
True unity, the Bible talks about, is unity of the faith in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. This is the only true unity. We are to love others, but we cannot enter into unity with those of beliefs that differ from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
What does unity of the faith in the Gospel of Jesus mean?
How much do we have to agree on to be brought to true unity?
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Salvation by grace, through faith, in Jesus only.
@@cookingdownsouthwithcarol8909 ...and not additions like "give to my ministry that your faith will increase, because only then will you have prosperity and favor with God."
Yes Carol! I agree. Various religions coming together can be dangerous. Of course, we don’t know everyone’s hearts no matter what “church” they belong to, but we must stay steadfast on the word and being a living testimony of it and not focus on uniting with churches. Because there is only one church. One bride. One truth.
It seems like the unity Francis champions is more of a unity of denominations rather than a unity of local believers. The unity we need is the unity of love as Jesus commanded.
As an aside, I wouldn't want the "mantle" of whatever Hinn could offer. Seems more like a curse than a blessing. Chan already experienced megachurch and he left it behind.
Given that Hinn isn't even Christian it's definitely a tainted mantle.
I am feeling compelled to share with my Protestant brothers and sisters what real Catholics actually believe:
We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Creator of heaven and earth.
And in Jesus Christ, His only son our Lord. Conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, he suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended into hell. On the third day, he rose again from the dead. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty. From there, he will come to judge the living and the dead.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting.
I think this leads to Francis’ unity theme... the tenants of our faith are more similar than different! Love and peace in Christ Jesus ✝️💜
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries.
Child of God keep your dreams alive.
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These Children's are in NEED of HELP.
Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA,
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Well said, sister in Christ. The basics of the Christian faith are universal, including the New Testament and the Creeds. Keep fighting for unity for it is the will of Jesus:
"As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified. My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that ALL OF THEM BE ONE, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us SO THE WORLD MAY BELIEVE that you sent me." (John 18-21)
May you be continually enlightened by the light of Christ and filled with the Spirit to do his perfect will all your days, and may this grace extend to your loves and those to whom he sends you.
To my brothers and sisters in CHRIST
I MAY NOT BE WHAT OTHERS WOULD CALL A GOOD CHRISTIAN ! BUT I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO KNOW CHRIST AND GIVE UP THE SEPARATION OF DENOMINATIONS THAT MAKE US WEAK AND GET BACK TO JUST LOVING THE LORD JESUS AND BEING A FAMILY HE WOULD BE PROUD OF ! MONEY, FAME , INFLUENCE , ALL MEAN NOTHING ! ONLY SPREADING THE WORD OF GOD AND SHOWING HIS LOVE HAS ANY MEANING. That's why I Love Francis Chan and I hope he's able to Reach even more people
So much to think on this. Grateful to have heard honestly where Chan is at. Still worried but I pray that the LORD is leading him.
Anyone from Auckland NZ here and have a passion for Jesus and the gospel?
There are many communities, where the believers across many denominations are walking and living in John 17 unity, being an answer to Jesus prayer-it IS happening! God is moving!! We are living and witnessing it!
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries.
Child of God keep your dreams alive.
understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA)
Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that
and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family.
you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention
These Children's are in NEED of HELP.
Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA,
you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com)
(Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,.,,,,....,,..
GRACE found me, GRACE saved me, GRACE sanctifies me,GRACE put praise & prayer in my mouth, and GRACE will glorify me.⚘
Amen! All the Catholics agree with you! God’s Grace is truly Amazing!
Oh God, make us more discerning and cautious. Amen!
This greatly encouraged me. I too am struggling with Gods desire for unity and the desire to follow truth. After finally finding a very spirit filled church only a mile from our new home. I hear who some of the quotes from teachers I don’t agree with. A belief in many of the conspiracy theories by some not all. I feel the Lord shows me a different vision. One thing I know is he desires unity more and is going to do something’s different than we are use to. Thanks for this message.
@@christopherburns2922 this church is not without reservations. I feel the Lord did lead us here. Will continue to seek God for discernment. Please pray for us. As I do struggle with some of the things I hear members refer to the Victory network, other Jewish history books, apocrypha etc....
Wow, those last 10mins was so real and powerful!
Thanks for this interview. It was such a relief to hear Francis' heart and how he's been mischaracterized by so many online. I've heard the criticisms and am relieved they are unfounded.
Yes you're right
As a catholic who had a deep encounter with God’s love in a Catholic Charismatic Movement, I understand the diversity in the church. I really appreciate Francis’ work and humility.
As I was listening into the conversation and the mentioning of different denominations, I couldn’t help to bring in my mind all different religion orders and movements with in the Catholic Church. Guys keep up the work it seems that our broken nature delights on feeding out of pride which leads the body of Christ into division.
Francis Chan my fav thank you Preston. I wish I had a church home and family. Covid isolated. Orange, Calif.
This was amazing!!!! Huge blessing 🙏🏼🙌🏼
Yes real blessing
We’ve used Mr Chan for many studies and it always brings insightful and meaningful conversations, God bless you both:🙏
Oh man! A hundred thousand likes from me wouldn't be enough for this video.
The Spirit within you rejoices with the truth! Well said! A hundred thousand likes from me wouldn't be enough, so I gave you one.
What Francis Chan described (53:03-56:20) is exactly what unity looks like.
I thank God for being introduced to your preaching. It has changed my life and I can no longer settle.
This was such a blessing to me today! Thank you 😊 keep on encouraging us!
One of the best videos I’ve watched in years.BTW Preston many of us came to know the Lord in the 1970s through the Catholic Charismatic Movement.
i have found a Catholic channel during the pandemic that has blown my mind and blessed me. I am convinced the evangelicals are too hard and judgmental of Catholics. Praising God for your salvation. Jesus Christ is Lord.
I grew up Catholic and went to a Jesuit university. I grew up very spiritual because of the Jesuit teachings. I then went to a non denomination church to now a Calvary Church. I left the Catholic Church and went into the new age because of the lack of unity. Christ saved me and pulled me into a Calvary Church with a loving Pastor.
Where does it say in the Bible that you can go to a “new age” church
Where does it say in the Bible that the “old way” falls away
How pathetic 🙈
@@vickytheodorides so sorry you had to say to someone that they are pathetic. Totally understandable that if you cannot see Jesus and unity in any church... You actually might find more grace love and unity outside the church. That's such a sad fact and a sad thing about the church and not at all what Jesus wants. It's sad that often you meet people who are not belivers that are living lives that look so much more like Jesus and those that call themselves believers look nothing like the transformed person becoming more like Jesus that new birth in Christ should bring. As Jordan Peterson said...it really would put you off, the fact that you don't see many Christians living the sort of transformed life that Jesus asks and looks like.
God bless you, Francis. I have been following your journey and you helped start one of my own.
Oh great Meghan, there's another one I got to pray for you'll be like number 25,000.
The irony for myself that the entire reason behind me following Francis Chan's teachings is because I was done with the division within churches and among Christians but still desired to grow and seek biblical understanding and truths. I had a very tough time getting past a period in my very early youth where my parents fell into a cultish type of teaching within a church. ( Baptist at that)
One that had followers so outside of the bible with the leadership that it made my life difficult in areas I shouldn't of grappled with. It all toppled after the Pastor was revealed for the crook liar and cheat he was, and cost him a leg from being shot by a betrayed husband! You might imagine it left a bad taste in my mouth for organized religion and church. I had trouble trusting teachers and leadership and always found a big problem if I sought out a church home to dwell in. I went so deeply into the world and sin I barely had any desire to try to get on a path toward his will for my life. ( still struggling) After God revealed things to me in a way I couldnt deny or run from I decided to start again like a babe in Christ to build a personal REAL relationship with Jesus. I prayed for God to let that hurt and bitterness fall away and asked if he would be merciful to guide me to someone truly of his anointing. I accepted him as my savior as a young pre-teen but the relationship was built on bad examples and experiences rather than just good people serving him
( the bad experience was brief as far as it ended at 12yrs old or so, and my parents did find truth and I had that shared with me always) Church however, I was not ready to navigate..it was not in my plans in a real way
Because of my yrust issues I was not expecting much to come from a google search of sermons expecting the razzle dazzle and deception with a touch of pay me to pray for you at wrap. My 1st click was a sermon of Francis Chans and instantly I was effected by his sincerity and heart for God. The sermon was word for word meant for my ears and condirmation to my current studies I was doing on my own. Gods way of giving me peace about the teacher and his true intent....
I did briefly find a home church but you nailed it, there is no unity and I always end up feeling judged, scorned, or discouraged for trying to find my footing. Due to a new pastor being voted in after the previous passed on, the gossip, division, amd slander eventually got to me amd I quit going. Despite feeling I had also found a pastpr to get behind. I actually got repeatedly told I was making a big mistake going there and it made me dread church. Thing is he just was willing to cater to old traditional ways if he was Led to go another route. He sought to encourage the youth to love God and he made it a point to have these youth step into action as worship leaders, pray leaders, things like that while still being inclusive and truly preaching scripture. He was only guilty of having new ideas that sought out lost souls. He wanted to disciple and make disciples of the ones out here facing hard choices and different times instead of doing the same old Sunday "routine"
He dared to preach and lead boldly. That was his crime..........
The point is people don't realize the hurt they can inflict on babes in Christ by chastising and downing rather than loving people where theyre at and allowing God to change the person from within.
Anyway....God put Francis Chan in my path, and his love for Jesus was something I was envious of. I wanted to be so in Love with Jesus I cant wait to spend time with him everyday.. To see him as an actual manifestation of another being that I have a back and forth with rather than just the supernatural thunder in the sky. No mockery intended, I just saw the relationship between us and him in a new light and needed that. I was ready to submit to his will for my life. I find that the other things became such a discouragement and distraction, which is exactly what the devil wants. To seperate us from our creator. Division among the people, the beliefs, the ideology, and the theory sure does take away from the focus of his word and his commandments to his people. How can we fight the enemy if were to busy fighting with one another????
Don't stop seeking and growing Mr. Chan! Spend the time searching for truth, finding areas that needed replanted in your walk and teachings rather than taking time defending yourself over accusations and debating. Accountabilty is necessary, I understand that point from the criticisms... I just feel like thats not what is happening. It was a full on heretic false prophecy attack on your charachter and they're going to answer for that as well one day if they had tainted motives....
Because of your humility, and seeing you admit publicly it weighed on you enough you have had to seek truth- even if it went against your prior teachings and beliefs is INSPIRING . I can get behind and learn from a man isn't always 100 % right nd says so, or that evolves in his understanding of Gods word enough to say maybe I was off here.... Even when you had tp face criticism and have your faith questioned or are slandered you stood up for what you felt God led you to do. I think thats what I connect with in order to hear Gods word and feel confident about the teacher I place trust in. You are real... Amd very human... So annoited and spiritually gifted... ...
Only one perfect human in the flesh ever was or will be. We can't be that to a point we needed a lamb to intercede for our faults.
Why then do we point out what we Arrogantly see as wrong to our very brothers and sister's in him? I'm guessing because its easier than working on self... Cant we love one another, encourage, and pray for each other rather than point fingers or slander someone?
I understand as a leader you are held to certain standards biblically speaking, and do need accountability partnerships on your continued walk with God. But I feel like the church and the christian brothers and sisters ( not all people or churches of course, but a great percentage) are pushing the lost or the seeking but not firmly planted folks away from the Lord, mostly because arrogance overides humilty.
If there was ever a place the gospel an anoited God appointed leader should be spoken and shared at, I
gonna go on and say at a prosperity or charismatic showman type movement would be to a GREAT place to start.
Thousands gathered to seek truth, peace, salvation, or just came because curiosity brought them there needed to hear the true gospel message.
They may of been led astray in huge ways had Mr. Chan not followed his heart.
Francis Chan, you are fruitful and it shows. You're a blessing, and I am learning from you and your family always. What great examples you all are.j Thank you for fearlessly teaching his word, but still being humble enough to say that you're still learning more about his word and seeking TRUTH too. Not being to proud to realize we may interpret or niss things God reveals to us in his time.
We see you out here doing something productive to win souls to the Lord. Not wasting time spinning wheels to "expose" the perceived faults of your fellow brethren........ I cant believe the irony of that entire situation! If it didn't possibly cost other people a relationship with God it might actually be a bit comical.......
Great interview, love what God is doing with Francis
Holy Spirit tore down my high place of denominationalism. We are HIS church.
Well said, sister Jennifer. I love the simplicity of the way you put that.
He is 💯. I was raised catholic. There are people in the Catholic Church that twist things. But I’m sure there are people in all religions that twist the truth. Butttt the true faith of catholic loves Jesus as our Lord and Savior and believes the Bible is the word of God and there are some things that are different but that’s just a different way of worship but it does not mean they aren’t following the truth.
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries.
Child of God keep your dreams alive.
understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA)
Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that
and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family.
you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention
These Children's are in NEED of HELP.
Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA,
you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com)
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I tell people when pressed that I'm a Baplicostal of Christ member
YES! Me too
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love it.
Totally saw Frankie at the skatepark a few days ago . Shoulda shared a word with him , maybe next time . God bless you dude .
Its very interesting conversation. If someone were to ask Jesus what religion are you..... You see...its not about a religion... Its all about Jesus! When we get to heaven there won't be a Catholic section, a Baptist section, etc. It will be did you believe on Jesus! I've seen all kinds of craziness in different churches....#1 Do they preach Jesus, do they believe He is the way, do they believe in the Virgin birth, the trinity, the resurrection, etc. These are all basics for a true Christians. And, we are to love one another, care for one another, well with those who weep, mourn with those who mourn, be a light into a world of darkness. God Bless you all.
Chan: "No way. I only share the Gospel with people who already know it." 😂😂😂
I love that you love that.
How do you know if they know it or not, have they already shared it with you. So then you turn around and share it right back to them oh, I would say that put you in the category with the pools.
@@duncescotus2342 well I hate that you love that he loves that.
@@donsimonds5186 Aw now you're playing MY game, brother Don. But I am a dunce.
@@donsimonds5186 "His spirit bears witness with our spirits that we are children of God."
In order to achieve Church Unity we must:
1. Agree that HIS Truth is the ultimate thing we need to have Faith in. We have to stop saying “well I believe this or that”... what does he command us to believe in?
2. We need an authority to protect and defend His Truth that we are all willing to submit to just as we would submit to Jesus.
3. Jesús actually setup such and authority in His Church that started with Peter and the Disciples and then was handed down from generation to generation. We need to know our Church History for the first 400 years before there was any set Scripture.
4. We must be willing to go where that leads us because where we have been clearly isn’t working.
How do we know it isn’t working:
1. There are 30,000 different denominations each with its own set and variations of “beliefs” and “traditions”. This all due to the idea of Sola Scriptura and that each of us can read and be the Authority over the interpretation of what we read.
2. It is now “in the water” that there is “no objective Truth”. The Christian church has lost that battle. In fact we have contributed to it. See #1. Also ask your kids if they think it is possible to know right from wrong. You will be shocked.
3. Because of #1 and #2 we no longer have the ability to tell anyone “we have the Truth”. In fact how often do you even here “the truth” bring something that is taught or preached about? We love love, but we don’t teach God’s Truth about love.
4. Our society thinks it is ok to riot and destroy and kill people in the name of fighting for “justice”. But see #2. If you have no idea what justice is, what are you really fighting for? They are fighting for power and control. That battle if it continues will neither get them what they think they want nor will it end without more destruction and bloodshed. All this while the church remains silent and there even those that think they are “loving their neighbor” by agreeing with the violent. Where is the Church teaching that power and control are idols and will never satisfy? Where is the church teaching that in order to be saved you must submit to your Lord day and be a servant to all?
5. The murder of babies is called “women’s healthcare”.
6. The accusation of voter fraud is considered “right wing”.
7. To be “Right wing/conservative/Christian” is now a bad thing.
8. And so many other examples of our society “losing its mind”...
9. What is our response as Christians?
It should be:
1. The God of the Universe is the Author of all Truth.
2. Jesus instituted a church of Authority through Peter and the Disciples.
3. The Church has maintained unity and become a worldwide influence from these vary roots.
4. Rather than thinking what you know about the evils of the Catholic Church, actually learn for yourself. Learn the early church History, read the Catholic catechism, then go back to the New Testament and see if it all matches up.
5. Return to the Catholic Church in the name of the Truth of Jesus Christ and God our Creator.
Your POLITICAL talk in this writing means you are satanic. I don't vote because Political Parties are SATANIC. You accuse your opposition of ignorance and merely "fighting for power and control", but your political talk shows you're doing the exact thing you're accusing your opposition of. You HYPOCRITE !! Blind Guides leading the blind.
Yes, IF so-called "Christians" and Church Leaders can go back to the Teachings of the APOSTLES, there would be more true-unity (in clusters) and Remnants who (for example) won't observe the LIE of a winter-birth of A Christ, just as the Early Church didn't observe such LIES. Another example of what you would find in Remnants would be the embrace of the Hijab in 1Cor 11 as the women cover themselves, and not try to be SHOWING-OFF self-beauty (satanic - Ezek 28v17 . Isaiah 14v12-15 . 1Cor 1v29).
I feel like I come from the other side of the journey in comparison to Francis Chan. My family grew up strong supporters of people like Benny Hinn and all the charismatic teachers. My grandmother has faithfully given to their ministries. I’d just have to ask Francis, would he embrace and encourage his own wife & kids listening to the teaching of Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Joel Osteen, etc? At what point is calling a spade a spade a priority with the New Testament church as much as attaining unity? I think leaders like Francis take it for granted that they don’t have to sit under heretical teaching on a weekly basis with their families and see it’s ugly fruits. In so many cases, there is no unity unless someone changes their mind. I can share some intimate moments with someone like Todd White but I would be foolish to sit under his teaching with my family.
He spoke about Ephesians and the attaining of unity but what about Jesus approach to the yeast of the pharisees or the apostles in 2 Corin, especially Galatians where a teacher of a false gospel is to be pronounced accursed, 2 Timothy, 2 Peter, 3 John & again Jesus rebuking his own church for putting up with false teaching in Revelation? He didn’t approve of them acting in a spirit of unity while not calling out blatantly false teachings. It’s not as simple as simply turning a blind eye to embrace a brother.
I would love to see Francis keep his heart for unity and to balance it with a healthy regard for doctrinal purity. “Pay close attention to yourself and to your teaching; persevere in these things, for as you do this you will ensure salvation both for yourself and for those who hear you.”
1 Timothy 4:16
It just seems to be a cop out to say he doesn’t know someone well... when what they’ve taught is clearly harming the church - even he himself is admitting it. I’m not saying he can’t fellowship with anyone but that to do so indifferently is simply unwise. John told the church to not even receive someone into their house who teaches a faith contrary to the one handed down to them-why? Because he hates people. No. Because he’s concerned for those in the flock who don’t know better. Likewise these leaders can’t be held to the same standards as everyday christians. Theyve taken upon themselves a mantle that requires them to have doctrinal fidelity to the scriptures and the qualifications of 1 Timothy 2.
I’m happy to hear the things Benny Hinn is saying, but that doesn’t change the fact that 90% of his career as a minister has been as a manipulative heretic, who has used the ministry for great personal gain. All I’m asking is can we atleast make a stand that although we encourage his repentance-we not only can’t recommend him as a minister, we condemn his teaching. I agree with Benny Hinn, I don’t think God wants him to teach any longer. He should be allowed to be a member, not an elder. He’s proven himself unfaithful in shepherding the flock, handling the word and unqualified to teach - repeatedly.
I think that the small house churches allow you to really know your brother and sisters without someone becoming the star attractive. I think it's time to go back to the church at the beginning. I'm going to look into the new beginnings church group.
Excellent commentary. Seven months later, Benny Hinn has returned to what he knows best. There is no fruit in keeping with his supposed repentance.
Wow thank you for this!
We’ll thought out comment….thank you
Francis Chan, I am Catholic and I’m blessed by you and your humble search of the truth. I was blown away when you said, (paraphrase) “truth is not found in books... otherwise the illiterate can’t know truth... truth is Jesus.” I can learn more from Jesus than I can from books. This happened to the likes of Catherine of Siena who although she never went to school knew deep truths about our Lord.
I'm a missionary in Southern Ecuador and I am working in a town of purely Catholic people. This town has never had any other church other than the Roman Catholic Church. I would be really curious to hear Francis Chan talk about what he or how he would approach communion in a place where it is idolatry. I have a lot of friends here and it is clearly the general mentality that going mass, confessing sins to the priest, taking communion, and praying to Mary and the saints is all they need to do to be good with God.
Keeping the focus on His sacrifice is key.
I loved this. So true that we need unity in the church, now more than ever before. I am no Bible scholar, far from it, i go to an evangelical anglican church in UK. But since start of lockdown last year I have been drawn towards the old ways, liturgies and prayers from Celtic Christianity and the early christian saints.... The verse that kept coming to mind was "look for the old paths, and walk in them". (Can't remember where it is). The thing that is most apparent from that time is the focus on Christ, the Trinity and the Love of God for all, and that God is in all and through all of creation. In the Celtic church women were just as important as men, leaders of communities, and even ordained as a Bishop. Sadly the Synod of Whitby in 664 decided that the Roman Church (arguably politicised by the Roman Empire) would be the official form of Christianity in Britain, so the Celtic christian Liturgies and wisdom were pushed to the North and Western fringes of the British isles. Almost wiped out completely by puritanism in the 18th century, it has remained as a remnant, but in these times I think we need those ancient deep roots more than ever. I know that in the liturgies and prayers there is a deep deep peace that is unexplainable but deeply beautiful.
Thank you so very much for this real, challenging conversation!!
It is crazy that people are attacking this man right now. I posted a video talking about how people are attacking him and my thoughts on it. He has truly impacted my life in so many ways!
You don't support the individual over doctrine, incorrect teaching leads to a incorrect understanding of Jesus, Chan has slipped away.
A Men
Amen
Maybe if you met him you would think differently. More than likely he has taught how to talk the talk and not walk the walk. 1john3:17 luke3:11
@@qaz-fi1id what are Chans errors?
God alone is worthy of all honor...He alone is worthy of praise ...glory shared with no man it is God's and God's alone....
The fact that Chan doesn't condemn Hinn should raise red flags. Hinn's preaching and fake healings has cost lives, not to mention he has basically stolen from people.
Chan saying anything about him will just bring more division no one is perfect but hinn definitely has some false teaching but we're not to bicker back and forth forever
Benny Hinn has repented of nothing! It was a ploy to gain favor
.with man..nothing more
Chan is deceived.
I was a skeptic of Benny Hinn. I live in Orlando and had the opportunity to go to a “Jesus Night” and Benny Hinn was preaching and I was blown away about how much scripture he knows and how accurate his preaching was. This was after he publicly repented on his preaching. He seems like he genuinely changed for the better.
hope so....the church needs scripture...the church needs models of repentance...the church needs to give grace. I get humbled when i think of who i will see in heaven.
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries.
Child of God keep your dreams alive.
understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA)
Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that
and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family.
you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention
These Children's are in NEED of HELP.
Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA,
you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com)
(Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,,..,,,,...,,.....
OH YEAH, brother Benny knows the word, and always has. However, this is the problem, and it's by no means his fault. It's a secret (not really, as it's black and white in the Book) and I share it with you today, that you may study it out--Pentecost is a leavened feast.
I strongly encourage you to listen to the You Tube channel Fighting for the Faith. This will help you.
@@ceciliaramos2280 Sister Cecilia, keep fighting for the faith, but fight for the whole Christian faith, not only parts of it, remembering that "Christ is all and in all."
Here's the whole text of Colossians 3:1-11:
"So if you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things that are above, not on things that are on earth, for you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is your life is revealed, then you also will be revealed with him in glory.
Put to death, therefore, whatever is in you that is earthly: fornication, impurity, passion, evil desire, and greed (which is idolatry). On account of these the wrath of God is coming on the disobedient. These are the ways you also once followed, when you were living that life.
But not you must get rid of all such things as well: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and abusive language for your mouth. Do not lie to one another, seeing you have stripped the old self with its practices, and have clothed yourselves with the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge according to the image of its creator. In that renewal there is no longer Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave and free, but Christ is all and in all."
I don’t have a background in theology. I accepted Christ as a young child and has been walking the journey ever since. I was raised in a very strict Reformed church and was made very aware of my sins continuously and how I was not worthy of God’s mercy. That lead to some serious self confidence issues - ie. denying myself to the point that I did not feel worthy of even existing. After school I jumped between churches but to be honest: Keep your eyes on Christ, follow the truth in the Bible. Be able to discern for yourself based on your knowledge of scripture what false teachings are. And most important: Love Christ and love others. I love Francis Frangipane’s teachings.
Thank you for giving time to Bro. Chan. He is a great help to us who love the church and look forward to the Lord's return.
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries.
Child of God keep your dreams alive.
understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA)
Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that
and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family.
you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention
These Children's are in NEED of HELP.
Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA,
you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com)
(Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,,..,,,,...,,..
I am so blessed by this conversation. I just got out of a hyper reformed and conservative church who think people are in a destructive paths in if their theology doesn't line up exactly with our church's theology. It was a toxic environment. You both described perfectly what i felt was wrong when Christians care more about "truth" than unity and loving people.
jordan peterson and Francis chan should have a chat sometime, that'd be interesting.
Not really. You have an emotional mental midget and a giant in intellectuality
So he's actually reading and meeting people and not being a cult member? Amazing.
Christianity is a very big family and getting out of an echo chamber is the first step toward unity.
Romans 16:17 Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. Right from the bible doctrine is very important more than unity I think God's word is much, much more important. Well the first time ALL of mankind was united they got together to defy God to build the tower of Babel.
How dare you say that sound doctrine trumps unity! Oh, you mean that biblical unity is based on faithfulness to God's Word. But that's not ecumenical.
Master Ho, you are providing one scripture, there are other scriptures like”Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.” 1 Peter 4:8
The whole Bible must be taken in context, and we must strive for unity. Even if you cannot have unity, you can still love and pray for others. Bible bashing and theology preserving above love is wrong.
@@LaVonneEarl Agreed
Unity is a Bible doctrine that must be understood and pursued. Ephesians 4.
Francis you're my favourite preacher to listen to, because you point me to God and tell me how good my God is and how good it will be to go up the mountain and get to know my God by myself! And more than that I see the relationship/grace God has given you and I want it too. I am a Catholic and honestly I can't wait to find out where you end up with the questions about the Eucharist....and I know this is a bit weird but I knew you were going to talk about this before you did and I had no clue these thoughts were going through your head. And I nearly cried, no I cried while listening to this, like I feel like God's bringing His church together.....I can't wait!!!!🥺🤧😭💕🙈
Most authentic christ follower I have had the honor to meet and study under.
@Martin Ramsbottom Jesus sat with prostitutes. How do they hear the message if we dont meet with others.
Thanks for that personal testimony. Brother Chan works toward Christian unity. That he is seen is weirdo should be weird.
Authentic. What is that supposed to mean? Sounds like a feeling word to me.
@Martin Ramsbottom You are so right!
@@sherinill773 He sat with them, but he did not affirm them or their sin.
Just a thought on both you two brothers in the LORD, why not get a Catholic apologist on the channel and dialogue about what you think the Catholic church is all about and see the other side of the coin, you both might be surprised...don't be afraid! many have done such and been surprised at the misconceptions. Blessings...
Listening to Cameron Bertuzzi and Justin from gospel simplicity dialogues with Catholic and orthodox speakers has been so fruitful for me
Scott Hahn. You need to talk with Scott Hahn.
@@glotree Scott is awesome....Lord used him to convict me of the truth of my Catholic faith! Listening to him is like trying to take a drink from a fire hose! Just so much to take in.
This was a blessing for me
For real
How are you doing Katelyn looking forward to chat with you
Loved this interview. Thy Kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven! Jesus said I am with you always ...
He enters into us when we receive Him in the Holy Eucharist we become one with HIM. We are UNITED IN ONE BODY OF CHRIST. WE are transformed even for a little while. Then we should become (& mindful) what we eat!
Sister Lorraine, beautifully put, a succinct but amazing sentiment!
Thank you for this interview! Such refreshing authenticity!
Though I’m so low on the totem pole-as far as being a well known speaker is concerned-it blows my mind how deeply I’ve been thinking about the same thing lately in the last year to the point of studying the writings of the first century church founders whose concern also was the unity of the church. If this was Jesus’ prayer how can we ignore it. May God use both of you to bring this to fruition.
I hope no reader will suppose that "mere" Christianity is here put forward as an alternative to the creeds of the existing communions-as if a man could adopt it in preference to Congregationalism or Greek Orthodoxy or anything else. It is more like a hall out of which doors open into several rooms. If I can bring anyone into that hall I shall have done what I attempted. But it is in the rooms, not in the hall, that there are fires and chairs and meals. The hall is a place to wait in, a place from which to try the various doors, not a place to live in. For that purpose the worst of the rooms (whichever that may be) is, I think, preferable. It is true that some people may find they have to wait in the hall for a considerable time, while others feel certain almost at once which door they must knock at. I do not know why there is this difference, but I am sure God keeps no one waiting unless He sees that it is good for him to wait.
When you do get into your room you will find that the long wait has done you some kind of good which you would not have had otherwise. But you must regard it as waiting, not as camping. You must keep on praying for light: and, of course, even in the hall, you must begin trying to obey the rules which are common to the whole house. And above all you must be asking which door is the true one; not which pleases you best by its paint and paneling. In plain language, the question should never be: "Do I like that kind of service?" but "Are these doctrines true: Is holiness here? Does my conscience move me towards this? Is my reluctance to knock at this door due to my pride, or my mere taste, or my personal dislike of this particular doorkeeper?" When you have reached your own room, be kind to those Who have chosen different doors and to those who are still in the hall. If they are wrong they need your prayers all the more; and if they are your enemies, then you are under orders to pray for them. That is one of the rules common to the whole house.
Mere Christianity by C.S.Lewis
Agree!
Got saved into the Pentecostal church, went a little too charismatic with IHOP & Bethel, re-examined my faith, got into Reformed theology, became a little heavy handed, borderline cessationist, came back to the gifts and my charismatic roots…10 years later here I am… A mutt lol
This is so good. We are in an evangelical church that does not preach the spirit filled life. I am frustrated but my husband feels we need to stay and pray for change. It’s so hard to know what to do!!
Hi Becky!
I also grew up in a Baptist church in Canada. For 21 years I was very heavily involved in Sunday school and leading worship almost every Sunday. Then we got a new pastor. Most of the previous pastors have had some "Respect" for the Holy Spirit. This new pastor came in, emptied the whole library of books that had to do with Hearing God's voice, waiting on God's timing, God having a will for your life.... And he replaced them with a whole lot of theological jibber jabber that most people do not even understand. I was very burdened because I have been part of a church since I was little. But the Holy Spirit warned me very clearly that I would not grow in faith, but in religion if I stayed under such leadership! So I fasted and prayed and asked the Lord for guidance. He eventually led me away from this church. I went through much persecution for leaving. My whole family stayed(my parents left for a very different reason a few years after me) Now 7 years later many of my friends and siblings with their husbands are now very alarmed at some of the theology that is being taught especially when it comes to the Holy Spirit and His role and function. I believe it's only a matter of time until many churches will sink like the Titanic, unless they repent of unbelief!
12 spies went to Spy out the promised land and only Joshua and Caleb believed they could do what God promised! Joshua and Caleb had to go through a 40 year wilderness detour until all unbelieving children of Israel died and then they were allowed to go into the promised land with the younger generation. I believe there is sooo much "religious atheism" in modern day churchianity and the Holy Spirit has been replaced with books and pastors. We all have personal access to God the Father through Jesus the Son and can hear the Remah voice of the Holy Spirit! But this calls for radical obedience and full surrender to Jesus Christ no matter what He asks of each of us. I believe the church age as we know it is over and we will slowly but surely see the remnant church go underground as the Lord prepares us for the coming persecution. We are the church! Not the building! May you and your husband come to a place of absolute neutrality(we will stay or we will go, not our wills but God's be done) and the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth!!!! 1John 2 v 27. May the Lord lead you and give you faith to jump out of the boat even though you may not yet know the next step! This is where all our worship songs become real. Like the song Oceans by Hillsong. May God bless you and lead you where He wants you to go! In the end we all have to stand before God alone and give an account to Him ourselves. May we truly follow Him and not denominationalism or religion but the Holy Spirit who is like the wind! Be so blessed!!!!
I deeply love Francis Chan.He is very honest,humble and teachable.I the opportunity of meeting him in person at his HQ in San Francisco and got to see that he is a true minister who doesn't pretend to know it all....I loved the boxer's analogy...we are constantly knocked out by our brethren!
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@@francisechan5202 I know better than that.You should work and stop deceiving people.
@@ukurikubohoraI received exactly the same message when I commented on a Joyce meyer video!
I reported it to the ministry
Love this! ❤
Francis absolutely nailed it when he said when he sees humility in these different denomination pastors, the willingness to say maybe the were wrong on a doctrine and they want to know the truth.... WOW. THIS is where we will start to come together. This is how we move forward. Humility. Seeking. Love.
The fact that some christians are attacking Francis is shocking. I also crave this unity from my previous congregations and where I am now, Ephesians 4 is that motivation for that unity.
Well said, brother Joshua. We are to be ravenously hungry for Christ, and that means unity. ("Is Christ divided?")
I'm a Baptist pastor up in Canada and on the same page Francis! Not all of us are curmudgeons, lol. Love you guys!
I am that person. We started a Bible study via zoom. We also have weekly prayer. The church has gotten so caught up in worldly functions, politics, etc. I desire a Godly worship service, but the other issue is the msg’s are so watered down it scares me because these ministers are not teaching truth and we have a generation of ppl that are lost. I respect MacArthur, but I too believe more love needs to be shown, we can give ppl the truth but they must see the love of Jesus in us. I think politics has crept in too much in the church so that’s a huge problem in the church too. But I believe all saints need to study the word to show thyself approved. We need to seek and God will be found. But I believe our heart has to be lined up with God’s word so that we can draw the unsaved and even saved that don’t know the word. Prayer has to also be very important in a believers life. We must imitate Christ and He always showed loved to the broken-hearted but he rebuked ones that only had an outer appearance but their heart was stone.
I agree with a lot of what I heard you say. But there are too many rules in all these denominations and in the apostles times we were just Christians and not a denomination. Denominations came about because men couldn’t agree and the church split. Being in disagreement is not the worst thing but I don’t think God would have us disagree to a point where ppl can’t come together because as a Christian I believe in unity. I only call myself a Christian, I don’t use a denomination when I talk to others about Jesus. I follow what was set up originally, Christian.
Thank you for this interview it was very informative.
On denominations:
Humans have a desire for one silver bullet. What if God desires a whole chamber of them?
I've often said that God has room for a variety of flavors as there are a lot of personalities in the body. However one important thing is that holding to truth is important.
Thank you for this video! I've been struggling to find which part of scripture to read and study next, and was feeling a lack of passion for any part. I was praying on it and eventually let it go for the moment, and now I'm feeling so excited to read John again! God is working through you so thank you for your obedience!
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries.
Child of God keep your dreams alive.
understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA)
Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that
and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family.
you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention
These Children's are in NEED of HELP.
Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA,
you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com)
(Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,.,,,,....,,..
You might also consider praying the Liturgy of the Hours. It’s available online, very beautiful
In addition to the Holy Bible, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is one of the most beautiful writings. It is the Truth that has been preserved for over 2,000 years.
I have appreciated Francis Chan for a long time now. But I think the Moravian Church has got the idea right (from Augustine?), in the essentials, unity; in the nonessentials, liberty; and in all things, love.
That phrase resonates with me and with scripture.
What constitutes the essentials?
I am asking because almost every denomination has their emphasis on something being part of the “essential”. baptists think adult baptism is essential, Pentecostals think tongues and the gifts of the spirit are essential, Catholics think the papacy is essential. Etc... etc....
Can we at least define our common ground of what TRULY is essential?
@@landowar2162, humility is a big part of realizing what essentials are and are not. But my response would be the gospel. Christ as the center, fully God/man, he died and rose again for our redemption, God is triune. Could probably lay out some more but it is the ones all Christ followers can affirm and what would classify someone a Christian. Secondary issues are ones that you could varying on but still be a Christian. Best answer I got currently
Fix your eyes upon Jesus! He is the Trruth and the Way, Amen Francis Chan!
Thanks for this great conversation--will definitely be sharing!
Also to say unity and how we should love one another with holy reverence, how is the love the John Mac was explaining to Francis something to be dismissed? Biblical love does include truth and justice.
Francis Chan quoted Isaiah 29:13 The Lord says:
“These people come near to me with their mouth
and honor me with their lips,but their hearts are far from me.
Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught."
If You love God keep God's commandments? The first 4 are love God. The last 6 are love others that's what God's us to unify around
I really like what you said about Francis being who we see him as, on and off camera
It's not true. He really doesnt like meeting new people. He is very guarded from people not in his circle. This come from personal experience
Totally on the same page as these guys. Now if only I could find more like minded people in my community... I definitely feel pretty "homeless" when it comes to the whole having a specific denomination/theology.
Our church in Hendersonville Tn are experiencing a REVIVAL! God is still working. And you are a large part of sharing God's Word.
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries.
Child of God keep your dreams alive.
understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA)
Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that
and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family.
you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention
These Children's are in NEED of HELP.
Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA,
you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com)
(Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,.,,,,....,,..
Crying, so beautiful. Thank you Francis for sharing with the Catholics. Thank you.🕊❤🌹❤
Word AND Spirit. Both are absolutely essential for a doctrinally sound, Spirit filled ministry.
“If you claim to be a prophet or think you are spiritual, you should recognize that what I am saying is a command from the Lord himself. But if you do not recognize this, you yourself will not be recognized. So, my dear brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and don’t forbid speaking in tongues. But be sure that everything is done properly and in order.”
1 Corinthians 14:37-40
The Love Walk is key.
God is love . . . Encounter God.
The fruit of the Spirit provides evidence that a person is a Christian. Amen.
No.
Talk is one thing and actions are another. Francis Chan's relationship with many in the NAR. This is action. I worked under the jack-boot of TBN. Francis Chan needs our prayer.
Experiential truth of how we "feel" around people is different than the biblical truth they proclaim (or don't)
Sort of. Feelings aren't reliable, true enough, but the experiential faith and the revealed faith are one and the same. By discernment we separate the wheat from the chaff, whether in our incomplete, imperfect understanding of the Bible or in our worldly existence. All is one, and requires the Holy Spirit, without which we have nothing by which to know truth.
Jesus certainly couldnt identify with the Scribes and Pharisees. I have had the opportunity to get to know True Believers of Christ in various denominations it has been such a Blessing. The one that Blessed me and surprised me was A Lutheran Pastor. Made Gods Word Come Alive, it was so real. I have met people from various denominations who have said "oh, you are a Baptist". I say "No I am not a Denomination, i have been a part of various Denominations in my life, Ultimately I am a Believer in Jesus Christ, therefore, A Child of The Most High God.
I ask this sincerely: With all this, how do we deal with scripture that instructs us not to “have anything to do” with those who are advocating/teaching outright false doctrines? Where’s the balance between that and love/unity/humility, etc?
Get until unity, Chan's book (I have the audible version). He has a whole chapter near the end on that exact question.
@@bgkob Sorry, this reply was actually for b lyle, I hope that brother/sister reads it. I'm not going to type it again. I hope you appreciate it as well.
We deal with difficult scriptures with other, more difficult, more important scriptures. For example, you personally, in your faith, before God have nothing to do with false teachings, and that means knowing enough scripture and having the spirit to recognize them when you see them, but other scriptures guide us:
1. "To those who doubt have mercy..."
2. "Avoid controversies over the law which are profitless..."
3. "Grow in the grace that is IN Christ Jesus..."
4. "But we ARE CONVINCED of better things concerning you..."
5. "ABLE to present every man complete before the Lord..."
These are all from memory and paraphrased. But I hope you get the idea.
We stop believing that everyone is a “false teacher” read the word for yourself and test the spirits for yourself. It’s not our job to condemn people.
We are to love everyone and preach the gospel to them but we are never to unite with false teachers. Preston and Francis Chan are both lost. They don’t know their Bible. If you know your Bible inside and out you will know a false teacher in an instant.
@@ceciliaramos2280 I’ve already been on the false teacher train for many years calling everyone heretics with the scriptures to back them as you are talking about. God showed me different and I thank him for it. I don’t even watch Francis Chan or Steven Furtick but I will no longer call them heretics. There are many more fruitful things you can do for the kingdom than this.
The problem with using early church history is many were wrong. Many held to none scriptural books as scripture and it influenced their views. They differed in many areas with each other.
Beloved let's pray for our Countries nations State's Communities and our households specially our families regarding the pandemic for some countries.
Child of God keep your dreams alive.
understand to achieve anything requires faith and believe in yourself, vision, hard work, determination and dedication, children are suffering from (LEUKEMIA)
Remember all things are possible for those who believe. ( 2 Corinthians 9:6 ) Help others make a living by sowing a SEED of faith to these Saviour Foundation located in (France) before 2day with faith to enable to save the children that
and let me know so I can join you in prayers, deeply because he want to manifest his promises in your life and that of your lovely family.
you are lifted up above any spiritually tower the babies needs medical attention
These Children's are in NEED of HELP.
Specially who's currently suffering from LEUKEMIA,
you will testify to the Glory of God after you have done it if only you believe in him and do what he says, Proverb ( 3:27, 21:26, 22:9 ) ( Deu, 28: 15 )( Zachariah 4:6 ) contact the MD on WhatsApp no +33753036121 on Saviour orphanage foundation, Email:- ( saviourfoundation96@gmail.com)
(Luke 6:38) believe and support the motherless babies save a soul today as you do that God will bless you send your donations to them.,.,,..,,,,...,,..
This was great. I can definitely relate to everything Pastor Chan was talking about especially the arrogance and pride
Love this!! I believe If we were more concerned with our own heart condition we would be more focused on Jesus and the gospel message and let Him do the rest.
I like Francis as much as ever, but I’ve realized this is a man who lives totally from his gut (his heart, in Christianese). That’s what has made him such a compelling preacher over the years. But when his gut fails him, he has no other way of getting back on track.
So if he meets a Rick Warren and his gut tells him that Rick “loves the Lord”, he takes that as proof Rick has the Holy Spirit and then runs with it, commanding everyone else to be in “unity” with Warren.
Chan is a VERY busy guy, and I doubt he’s ever listened to half a dozen of Warren’s “how to improve yourself” sermons where he ALWAYS mishandles Scripture terribly and NEVER preaches anything but self help with a God veneer. In fact, Warren is OPPOSED to preaching the Biblical gospel either to his church or to a secular Ted talk crowd, because it would be offensive, not “seeker-sensitive. “
Or watch several different Warren interviews and see how he tells each new person exactly what they want to hear, chameleon-like. He did this to John Piper, agreeing with 95% of Piper’s systematic theology. What Piper didn’t get is that doctrinal theology means NOTHING to Warren and his way of doing “ministry” - something Piper can’t even conceive of, I’m sure.
In the same way, I’m sure Chan can’t conceive of a Christian pastor being the chameleon that Warren is, because Chan is INCAPABLE of being anything but authentic, no matter who his audience is.
(Compare Warren agreeing with Piper about, say, the reality of hell for those who reject Christ, vs. Warren on Oprah’s “spiritual” program, where “all roads lead to God”. The disconnect is jaw-dropping).
Chan glowingly recounts Benny Hinn’s private repentance at a lunch before the Send, but then admits he hasn’t followed up to check on what Benny is actually doing since then ! Hinn hasn’t thrown away his “mantle” or his beyond-extravagant lifestyle, or rejected the prosperity gospel AT ALL. HE SAID he would change his shameless appeals for $$ in only a narrow technical sense, but his ministry and TV presence is STILL pure seed-faith, sending ME your $$ is how you take a step of faith, etc.
In short, Chan doesn’t appear to do research of any kind, and he doesn’t have even a basic intellectual grasp of the central Biblical doctrines. And he clearly is incapable of considering that he’s being manipulated by guys like Hinn, who knows exactly how to pull at Chan’s heartstrings-just as he’s been doing to his crusade audiences for decades.
Francis, you’re called to be as shrewd as a serpent regarding those around you; the innocence we’re called to refers to our own moral and spiritual conduct, not to mental naïveté.
So how can he have a BIBLICAL assurance that some guy “has the Spirit” and is bearing “good fruit”, when, according to Paul’s pastoral epistles, ALL of that is intimately connected to WHAT someone teaches and what SORT of “disciples” that teacher is creating ?
He can’t- he has only his gut reaction to a brief meeting with another leader, one who may change his spots for every such meeting ! By contrast, what someone preaches week in, week out, and what his disciples understand the faith to consist of, can’t be faked over the long term.
Chan is right on about the Biblical centrality of unity, but he’s frankly in over his head when trying to understand who is even in the faith.
Hello Don. I have already been on the same journey Francis is on.
I was raised Catholic but not properly taught about the Church. I and my family were Methodist for 20 years. For about 17 of those I taught the Faith to kids. So I had to study and learn and teach. When the crises of Truth of 2020 hit where the government, race protestors, democrats all lost their mind and the Methodists are at each other’s throats over allowing homosexual pastors and marriage, I finally realized there was no Truth in that denomination - they weren’t even trying.
After a year of deep study (2-5 hours a day reading Scripture and books RUclips) I finally came to these conclusions:
1. How can there be any Truth in 30,000 denominations?
2. Jesús started His Church.
3. All of the disciples and apostles and early church leaders who were the church for almost 400 years before there was any set Scripture had beliefs that are much more Catholic than any Protestant. They took their faith in God seriously. They expected each other to live out their love for Jesus seriously.
4. They took the Eucharist as the real presence of Christ seriously and centrally just like Jesus said in John 6 and as Francis has discovered.
5. Most importantly they took serious the charge from Jesus be a Church. One Church with authority and Truth of God and UNITY.
It just seems deceitful today to try and tell someone to become “Christian” and that “Christians” have the Truth when we have allowed 30,000 different versions of it.
We need to return to His Truth, not our own. It makes no difference what you or I “believe”. Faith means we have to believe in HIS Truth.
i really appreciate your thoughts on Francis. He is a dear guy but I agree he seems to lack discernment. Yes, the wise as serpents, innocent as doves scripture is completely appropriate and I do believe that many are masters at manipulation. Jesus Christ is Lord. There is no perfect church, there is no perfect theology. There is a Perfect God, who gave us His perfect Son and He lived Love perfectly. too many questions....too many think they know the answers. Just wanting to know Him, the power of His resurrection and the mystery of Christ in [me] my hope of glory...and the hope of all who call upon Him in truth. maranatha.
Keep talking and expose the truth that the Bible is not YOUR final Word on today’s trends, as God promises that His Word is absolutely sufficient.
How is the Bible not sufficient for navigating today’s world?
@@laurenchafin2404 The more these men talk the more I hear that they don’t see the sufficiency of the Bible for godly living, rather, there seems to be something new under the sun that they discover in addendum or in stead of the Bible.
The Bible is MY final word on everything to do with life.
@@jodyirwin1046 I’m thankful to read your reply. I thought you were agreeing with them on the sufficiency of scripture.
Man, so good.
My Dear Dear Brother! A word from the "Pew to the Pastor" their are #000's of us in the western evangelical "consumer" churches who really know what you have finally experienced! We are waiting for the move of the Holy Spirit in leadership; that they will receive the courage to shift the "mind" of the parishioner's/patrons and make "disciples" of the Lord Jesus Christ! All indications are that the major denominations are shrinking! Perhaps the thought we might consider is this "in spite of all we are doing" or "because of what we are doing" I believe it was Dallas Willard who said that over 20 years ago. Thank you Francis Chan for setting an example of where we need to go!