my gf is looking to buy a Lacerda game so we rocked through your playlist.The quality of your videos is top notch especially for a channel that is just one year old.Thanks alot.
Our pleasure! We had a great time covering all of his titles. We felt a little empty inside after it ended lol. So glad we got to feature this new one.
Having spent my career developing shopping malls, this game very effectively captures the fundamental mall design of capturing and exploiting compatible retail adjacencies. Well done on a great teaching video and game preview.
What a coincidence, I searched for Mercado de Lisboa on RUclips today but found 0 videos about it. You're the very first RUclips channel that presents this game to all of us congrats! Because of you two I'll definitely back this plus add 2 more Lacerda games in the pledge manager. The most complicated game I've played is Terraforming Mars so I probably shouldn't get On Mars based on your earlier Lacerda video :-D I consider solo mode as well so I'm thinking to get Vinhos and the Gallerist or Lisboa aside Mercado de Lisboa. Are these good choices? Thank you and keep up the fantastic work
We just started our Lacerda collection with The Gallerist, which is great. A lot of people recommend this as a starter. But I would say every Lacerda game (except Mercado) is probably heavier than Terraforming Mars. But don't worry: In our young experience with boardgames we learned: The more heavy games you play, the easier it gets. And the great videos of these two guys definitely help (one of our favorite channels). We will also back this one in september and go for Lisboa and On Mars next.
@@BeforeYouPlay Thanks a mil! No never, I've never played a Lacerda game before, that's why I'm thinking carefully which 2 games I will add to the pledge aside Mercado. Probably Gallerist en Vinhos though...although the theme of On Mars and Lisboa appeal more to me..tricky tricky!
@@marcosoenke Thanks a mil for your comment Marco, it's good to know that the more you play heavy board games, the easier it gets! I understand it's ambitious to jump from terraforming mars to a Lacerda game, so I think I will follow your advise by adding the Gallerist to the pledge. The other one will probably be Vinhos? I do like the themes of Lisboa and On mars though...Kanban looks interesting as well. Which one is your favourite so far?
Really well done video. Classy look, too. You both add helpful comments throughout and things to watch for, yet the pacing stays upbeat. The game looks like a fun work-night title that should fit my wife and I well, as we also like Lisboa. Thanks for putting this out!
Wow, it's so awesome that you got to put out the first vid on Mercado de Lisboa, and such a fine (P)review/Playthrough this video was. Love your approach to showing the games and how the discussion unfolds after the play.
I've been playing this on Tabletopia both Solo and at two. We mostly play sub 1hr games but it can be harder to find strategic play in shorter games. This is perfect for us so we will be backing.
Thank you so much for the playthrough. I was on the fence (the rules feel a bit wonky) but your explanation and even more, the game after, was able to show me how fun the game is. I'm very happy that your passion for Vital's games made it possible for you to get this prototype
Yeah the most wonky part is calculating the coins when scoring customers. We found that If you analyze each stand individually when scoring it makes it much smoother.
Excellent play through and tutorial. A few observations about the board though. I wish the developers has placed a small box showing the restaurant->stand examples to ease the scoring, especially for new players. A quick glance to see, for example, pizza benefits the tomato, etc. would be nice, but an easy to make player aid fixes that. You guys produce high quality videos that really help new players grasp the concepts and rules of games. Very enjoyable to watch.
Thank you for the video. I really like this thinky filler. My wife and I started to dive into Lisboa and we love it more than On Mars. I backed Kanban EV. So the next two Lacerda games on my wishlist are Mercado de Lisboa and The Gallerist.
Thanks for the wonderful overview and playthrough! I have been anticipating this game ever since you mentioned it. I LOVE Lisboa, so I can't wait to get my hands on this crunchy filler!
Thanks for the video! I would only add the fact that according to the instructions, when you open a stand, you have to pay 1 coin for the stand that you are placing, plus 1 coin for the other stands in the same row. I believe you said in the video that you only had to pay the same amount of coins as stands on the most expensive column or row.
Wow, this game is coming out in my country next month and after watching your playthrough, I am absolutely going to get one! Thanks for the great video! XD
Just got my kickstarter copy .. thx for the video!! Can't wait to play with family. Regular lisboa is too much for them, they can get a taste of Master Vital's design genius with this one:)
Thanks for the video, simple and very clear explanation and after the playthrough now I'm sold on the game, it seems deceivingly simple at the beginning but then you can see the tactics taking over. I'd be very interested to know where this game lands on your filler game's ranking 🤔
Glad we could help showcase the game! The game is wide open at first and then you start having to really check your surroundings as the board rapidly closes in on itself.
Nooo Naveen, thought you were going to nick the win in this one! Of the videos I've watched of yours so far I'm yet to see you register a victory! Looks like a fun tactical filler :)
Fair enough! It's a good job that the enjoyment of games doesn't have to be correlated with winning though :) (lucky for me too haha) Crushing win in Kahuna though ;)
Thanks for the play-through, this game is on my most anticipated games list. One question though, was the purple player supposed to get money when placing the chicken market at 24:30 because of the customer to the right of that row?
The customer to the right is actually asking for grapes and fish. Had they been wanting chicken, then yes definitely and it would have been much better for Monique haha
This game looks very interesting, and I think I will back it when it comes to Kickstarter. My only gripe is that the board looks unnecessarily large with a lot of space being taking up for the roof aesthetic. I think even without it the theme would still carry through or at least make it a little narrower. Just my own opinion. 😊
It is, but fortunately it's not a massive big box like other Eagle Gryphon Games boxes can be. I believe the roofs are to simulate what the real market looks like.
The Before You Play videos are all excellent. Congratulations on that! I have a question: would Mercado de Lisboa be in the group of your 5 favorite Vital Lacerda games? Thanks in advance for your valuable time.
Just a small correction about the endgame (@11:07): there is nothing stating that every player has the same number of turns. e.g. in a 2-player game, if the 2nd player triggers the end-game then the 1st player would have an extra turn and then the game ends.
Interesting. The whole time I was waiting for that one additional layer of complexity. I mean it is thinky as it is but somehow I thought there will be that one element that's not initially apparent to elevate the game. Looks solid though. Perhaps the board is a little big for what the game asks you to do with it. I can easily see this game coming in a compact box. Great video!
When you guys have a schedule of Alexander’s games you will play share here/Twitter. I may also try to follow your timeline for my personal plays. Then would be cool to watch your review with my gameplay fresh in mind. What do you plan to play first.
We will be releasing the games in order of their release date, so we will start with Port Royal and end with Maracaibo. No exact schedule, but we will start releasing next week.
I'm a bit confused why there is such a surprise that chicken and burgers are connected in the game, since chicken burgers are actually a thing 😅 and quite popular indeed
Tempted to back this and do one of those add-on's ... any recommendations? Also holy crap they're expensive. EDIT: Just realized you have a whole series on his games. nice
Haha they are quite expensive relative to other board games. The games all have a fantastic production value plus we see his titles (Vital Lacerda's) as "forever keeper" games with tons of replay-ability. Peruse our other videos and see which ones could realistically suit you. Email us if you have any questions :)
Naveen (gah i was looking for your name spelled out but I couldnt find it I apologize if I spelled it wrong) I have noticed that in some of the before you play videos you cross your arms a lot. I think it kinda unintentionally sends a closed body language message for some people. Im not saying you shouldn't do it, but you seem like a super friendly person and I think maybe just be make sure to extra channel that good naturedness to counteract the closed body posture of crossing your arms if that is what is comfortable for you. I really love the videos you both are making! I envy your ability to get so many lacerda games to the table hahaha.
Haha I know I know... Crossing my arms is like my baby binky for me lol. It just feels the most comfortable. You're actually the 2nd person to mention this, I'll try to be more mindful going forward :) - Naveen
Yeah. I can't think of many 'filler' 30 minute games offering this sort of depth. Definitely a gap for this sort of thing. Really liking your reviews. Great work both of you.
Hey guys, thanks. I went to KS is to back, is it closed already? Am I too late? I can't find a purchase/back button to buy. Thanks for all your content.
Ooh I think the campaign ended =/ You could probably email their customer service to see if you can add on a late pledge since the pledge managers haven't gone out yet
I think the reason why is because even though yes it is trackable, people don't often keep track lol. Especially in a 4-player game, unless you're writing everyone's money down...it's kind of tough.
@@BeforeYouPlay I also found during my many plays of this that having it hidden helps with AP players. Yes you can track it BUT when it's not there to visibly count, those players are not as AP. They only have an 'idea' of what other players have.
@@BeforeYouPlay that's exactly what I'm saying. How can you strategize something based on something you don't know? If you have money out in the open, that's what gives you the option to strategize around it.
Any questions regarding the game? Check it out on KS on September 3rd!
Awesome guys, thank you.
Thank you too! Keep the designs coming! ;)
It is weather machine time!
Also, thanks for signing my card at Essen last year
The 3D look of the board is excellent. A couple
Of times, I was worried you were going to hit the entrance roof and knock the board.
lol! like the artwork for this one too! Reminds me of stories from my childhood for some reason. - Naveen
my gf is looking to buy a Lacerda game so we rocked through your playlist.The quality of your videos is top notch especially for a channel that is just one year old.Thanks alot.
Hi Robert, thank you so much for your support! Which one(s) did you guys end up deciding on?
Lisboa looks great and we are looking forward for a kanban ev pre/review on you channel :)
Discovered your Vital videos yesterday night, and what a joy of a channel! So glad that I found y'all in time to find this video! (:
Our pleasure! We had a great time covering all of his titles. We felt a little empty inside after it ended lol. So glad we got to feature this new one.
Your explanations are always so clear and concise. Thanks for demoing the game for us. Have been really curious about this one for a while!
Glad we could help! Thanks for the kind words :)
We really enjoyed this. Finally had a chance to play it.
Having spent my career developing shopping malls, this game very effectively captures the fundamental mall design of capturing and exploiting compatible retail adjacencies. Well done on a great teaching video and game preview.
Haha that's so cool, you have such a unique perspective!
What a coincidence, I searched for Mercado de Lisboa on RUclips today but found 0 videos about it. You're the very first RUclips channel that presents this game to all of us congrats! Because of you two I'll definitely back this plus add 2 more Lacerda games in the pledge manager. The most complicated game I've played is Terraforming Mars so I probably shouldn't get On Mars based on your earlier Lacerda video :-D I consider solo mode as well so I'm thinking to get Vinhos and the Gallerist or Lisboa aside Mercado de Lisboa. Are these good choices? Thank you and keep up the fantastic work
We just started our Lacerda collection with The Gallerist, which is great. A lot of people recommend this as a starter. But I would say every Lacerda game (except Mercado) is probably heavier than Terraforming Mars. But don't worry: In our young experience with boardgames we learned: The more heavy games you play, the easier it gets. And the great videos of these two guys definitely help (one of our favorite channels). We will also back this one in september and go for Lisboa and On Mars next.
Hey great timing, glad you found us! We were very happy to put this one out! Have you played On Mars?
I did find On Mars that difficult
@@BeforeYouPlay Thanks a mil! No never, I've never played a Lacerda game before, that's why I'm thinking carefully which 2 games I will add to the pledge aside Mercado. Probably Gallerist en Vinhos though...although the theme of On Mars and Lisboa appeal more to me..tricky tricky!
@@marcosoenke Thanks a mil for your comment Marco, it's good to know that the more you play heavy board games, the easier it gets! I understand it's ambitious to jump from terraforming mars to a Lacerda game, so I think I will follow your advise by adding the Gallerist to the pledge. The other one will probably be Vinhos? I do like the themes of Lisboa and On mars though...Kanban looks interesting as well. Which one is your favourite so far?
Really well done video. Classy look, too. You both add helpful comments throughout and things to watch for, yet the pacing stays upbeat. The game looks like a fun work-night title that should fit my wife and I well, as we also like Lisboa. Thanks for putting this out!
Glad you enjoyed it! We love it at 2 players. It plays very well and it's nice not waiting for an extra player to ruin your plans haha
Wow, it's so awesome that you got to put out the first vid on Mercado de Lisboa, and such a fine (P)review/Playthrough this video was. Love your approach to showing the games and how the discussion unfolds after the play.
We were really happy to do it! Thank you for supporting us!
I've been playing this on Tabletopia both Solo and at two. We mostly play sub 1hr games but it can be harder to find strategic play in shorter games. This is perfect for us so we will be backing.
That's awesome! We really like it at 2 players, have yet to try the solo challenge.
@@BeforeYouPlay Yes I'm working through them. It's a great way to hone your skills before playing against others.
My heavy gamer friends love this designer- looks like a game we can all enjoy! Nice middle ground.
This is definitely one that can sneak in there between the heavy gamers and lite gamers.
Awesome teach as always! Big fan of Lisboa, his best game in my opinion, so been waiting for this one. Thanks !!
Our pleasure! Lisboa is soooo good!
Thank you so much for the playthrough. I was on the fence (the rules feel a bit wonky) but your explanation and even more, the game after, was able to show me how fun the game is. I'm very happy that your passion for Vital's games made it possible for you to get this prototype
Yeah the most wonky part is calculating the coins when scoring customers. We found that If you analyze each stand individually when scoring it makes it much smoother.
Excellent play through and tutorial. A few observations about the board though. I wish the developers has placed a small box showing the restaurant->stand examples to ease the scoring, especially for new players. A quick glance to see, for example, pizza benefits the tomato, etc. would be nice, but an easy to make player aid fixes that. You guys produce high quality videos that really help new players grasp the concepts and rules of games. Very enjoyable to watch.
Thank you for the video. I really like this thinky filler. My wife and I started to dive into Lisboa and we love it more than On Mars. I backed Kanban EV. So the next two Lacerda games on my wishlist are Mercado de Lisboa and The Gallerist.
Awesome! We both absolutely love Lisboa, so we were excited to see a filler designed based off the downtown area of the game.
@@BeforeYouPlay Your Lisboa playthrough was a great help to learn the rules. I highly appreciate what you two are doing. Great work!
The Gallerist is great. It’s probably his most accessible of his heavier games.
Thanks for the wonderful overview and playthrough! I have been anticipating this game ever since you mentioned it. I LOVE Lisboa, so I can't wait to get my hands on this crunchy filler!
Glad you enjoyed the video! We're excited to see what people think about it!
Just finished my 1st game of this and really enjoyed it. Very easy and quick to learn with lots of interesting decisions to make.
Nice! Love how your excitment for the game really shows :)
Thank you thank you! It was great chatting with you this past weekend! :)
@@BeforeYouPlay Indeed! I will edit that video soon :)
You guys are awesome! Thanks for this!
Our pleasure!
Great playthrough you two! My copy just arrived in the mailbox today!
Thanks for the video! I would only add the fact that according to the instructions, when you open a stand, you have to pay 1 coin for the stand that you are placing, plus 1 coin for the other stands in the same row.
I believe you said in the video that you only had to pay the same amount of coins as stands on the most expensive column or row.
Yes you are right, so when calculating both columns and rows the 1st coin would be for the tile you are placing.
I'm so excited about this one!!!
Let us know what you think!
@@BeforeYouPlay The rules explanation was very clear and concise. Great job as always!!!
Great video, looking forward to this KS and the Pfister series!!!
Us too!
Well done, Love you guys I just got this game & I feel like I already know how to play it.. Thanks.😊
Wow, this game is coming out in my country next month and after watching your playthrough, I am absolutely going to get one! Thanks for the great video! XD
Glad we could help! Hope you enjoy the game!
Just got my kickstarter copy .. thx for the video!! Can't wait to play with family. Regular lisboa is too much for them, they can get a taste of Master Vital's design genius with this one:)
Thanks! Looks interesting! Just goes to show how complex Lisboa is when just one aspect of it can be transformed into its own spin off game!
Right!? We felt the exact same way.
Thanks for the video, simple and very clear explanation and after the playthrough now I'm sold on the game, it seems deceivingly simple at the beginning but then you can see the tactics taking over.
I'd be very interested to know where this game lands on your filler game's ranking 🤔
Glad we could help showcase the game! The game is wide open at first and then you start having to really check your surroundings as the board rapidly closes in on itself.
Nooo Naveen, thought you were going to nick the win in this one! Of the videos I've watched of yours so far I'm yet to see you register a victory!
Looks like a fun tactical filler :)
I'm no match for Monique... I win 1 in 5 games if I really really try hard! haha - Naveen
Fair enough! It's a good job that the enjoyment of games doesn't have to be correlated with winning though :)
(lucky for me too haha)
Crushing win in Kahuna though ;)
Just subscribed! Thanks for the great content and looking forward to the games by Mr. Pfister!
Thanks for subbing, we are looking forward to the series!
Jeu abstrait très intéressant, bravo pour votre présentation toujours top !
Merci beaucoup d'avoir regardé notre vidéo !
Don't think it is a game for me and my husband but thanks to your gameplay we are going to buy OnMars just need to win some money on lottery first :D
lol that's fair! Have you played On Mars before?
@@BeforeYouPlay not yet, but if don't like it would be easy to sell it :)
Thanks for the play-through, this game is on my most anticipated games list.
One question though, was the purple player supposed to get money when placing the chicken market at 24:30 because of the customer to the right of that row?
The customer to the right is actually asking for grapes and fish. Had they been wanting chicken, then yes definitely and it would have been much better for Monique haha
@@BeforeYouPlay Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification.
I had the same question! It totally looked like that customer wanted chicken. 🍗
This game looks very interesting, and I think I will back it when it comes to Kickstarter. My only gripe is that the board looks unnecessarily large with a lot of space being taking up for the roof aesthetic. I think even without it the theme would still carry through or at least make it a little narrower. Just my own opinion. 😊
It is, but fortunately it's not a massive big box like other Eagle Gryphon Games boxes can be. I believe the roofs are to simulate what the real market looks like.
Oh crap I am really looking forward to this. Amazing to see a preview. When is this hitting the shelves?
We've been told it'll be on Kickstarter Sept. 3rd. We're hoping there isn't a long wait time from that to be in retail.
The Before You Play videos are all excellent. Congratulations on that! I have a question: would Mercado de Lisboa be in the group of your 5 favorite Vital Lacerda games? Thanks in advance for your valuable time.
It looks so good. Thanks for the play through
Thanks for checking it out!
Just a small correction about the endgame (@11:07): there is nothing stating that every player has the same number of turns. e.g. in a 2-player game, if the 2nd player triggers the end-game then the 1st player would have an extra turn and then the game ends.
Interesting. The whole time I was waiting for that one additional layer of complexity. I mean it is thinky as it is but somehow I thought there will be that one element that's not initially apparent to elevate the game. Looks solid though. Perhaps the board is a little big for what the game asks you to do with it. I can easily see this game coming in a compact box. Great video!
Haha it's what we come to expect with a Lacerda game.
I love Lisboa themed games
2 for 2 for us!
When you guys have a schedule of Alexander’s games you will play share here/Twitter. I may also try to follow your timeline for my personal plays. Then would be cool to watch your review with my gameplay fresh in mind. What do you plan to play first.
We will be releasing the games in order of their release date, so we will start with Port Royal and end with Maracaibo. No exact schedule, but we will start releasing next week.
Before You Play great idea. Can also see the evolution of design.
8:55 aaah I know where this is going :) *looks at Lisboa*
So cool right?!
At 23:54 weren’t you meant to earn from that flower customer? Actually never mind just realised it was a restaurant !
Yup you got it!
A complex board game costs around from 30 to 50 Euro in a game shop in Germany.I borrow these board games for free in the library to learn them.
I love watching you guys!!
Aww thank you so much!
I'm a bit confused why there is such a surprise that chicken and burgers are connected in the game, since chicken burgers are actually a thing 😅 and quite popular indeed
It is fun to learn and watch!
Thank you!
This game is better suited for my group compared to the "crowded" Lisboa.
Hi Alain, hope the video helped you and your group. :)
Tempted to back this and do one of those add-on's ... any recommendations? Also holy crap they're expensive.
EDIT: Just realized you have a whole series on his games. nice
Haha they are quite expensive relative to other board games. The games all have a fantastic production value plus we see his titles (Vital Lacerda's) as "forever keeper" games with tons of replay-ability. Peruse our other videos and see which ones could realistically suit you. Email us if you have any questions :)
Naveen (gah i was looking for your name spelled out but I couldnt find it I apologize if I spelled it wrong) I have noticed that in some of the before you play videos you cross your arms a lot. I think it kinda unintentionally sends a closed body language message for some people. Im not saying you shouldn't do it, but you seem like a super friendly person and I think maybe just be make sure to extra channel that good naturedness to counteract the closed body posture of crossing your arms if that is what is comfortable for you.
I really love the videos you both are making! I envy your ability to get so many lacerda games to the table hahaha.
Haha I know I know... Crossing my arms is like my baby binky for me lol. It just feels the most comfortable. You're actually the 2nd person to mention this, I'll try to be more mindful going forward :) - Naveen
awesome video, I love lacerda games but this isn't for me. thanks for the review + playthrough...
Thanks for watching!
This looks so good.
Hi Chris, thanks for watching! We really enjoy this one. Great weight and length with a decent amount of "thinky" strategy.
Yeah. I can't think of many 'filler' 30 minute games offering this sort of depth. Definitely a gap for this sort of thing.
Really liking your reviews. Great work both of you.
Looks like separating the downtown mechanic in lisboa.
Exactly! This one gets thinky too.
You lucky 🍀 gamers. So jealous 😁
Haha i know!! :) Hope you enjoy the video!
Before You Play. Yep. Very much. Thank you for this video. Would have backed anyway, but now I’m even more sure.
Not sure about this one, seems very tactical.
Hey guys, thanks. I went to KS is to back, is it closed already? Am I too late? I can't find a purchase/back button to buy. Thanks for all your content.
Ooh I think the campaign ended =/ You could probably email their customer service to see if you can add on a late pledge since the pledge managers haven't gone out yet
@@BeforeYouPlay Thanks, I'll do that. Totally just watching you two demo games all weekend and buying the ones we like, 😆
kind of "mini Lisboa" ;)
Exactly!
At 35:40, shouldn't six more points happen because if the chicken on the top row next to both beer and burger?
Hi there, what is the exact time stamp? It looks like you accident put the last second on the video. Hopefully the error helps me (Naveen) haha!
@@BeforeYouPlay doh. i was wrong. you got credit for it earlier. Go Team Dexter!
@@jwolfe9589 Darn, I wish it would have helped me lol. Dexter is being a lazy boy with the current heat wave haha
How is hidden money more strategic? That makes no sense. Repeat after me: hidden but trackable information should never be hidden.
I think the reason why is because even though yes it is trackable, people don't often keep track lol. Especially in a 4-player game, unless you're writing everyone's money down...it's kind of tough.
@@BeforeYouPlay I also found during my many plays of this that having it hidden helps with AP players. Yes you can track it BUT when it's not there to visibly count, those players are not as AP. They only have an 'idea' of what other players have.
@@BeforeYouPlay that's exactly what I'm saying. How can you strategize something based on something you don't know? If you have money out in the open, that's what gives you the option to strategize around it.
@@BeforeYouPlay unless you're playing a memory game.