It's not super impressive when you realize they had the center hole burned at the same time as the O.D so it's concentric as long as you use the right size shaft.
Then again Vlad is the madman behind all these various different experiments he and the crew tried throughout the years, so he's definitely the wild wacky DIY type person who comes up with batshit crazy ideas whether they make sense or not lol
Having been involved in a "flywheel separation event" and caught the result first hand, this one is a bit unnerving to see. *Always* make sure you are out of the plane of rotation (with some extra margin just in case). I'm all about the typical mayhem these guys like to have fun with... I'd like to keep enjoying it.
@@MadScientist267 I was glad to see it was running in reverse, worse comes to worse it should go away from the driver.. but tailgaters would get what they deserve :) . What's the next step? Balancing and vacuum chamber/protection cage I reckon.
@@robmanueb. My main concern was that it might fly into pieces which would have gone in all directions along that plane, convincing anything in its way to go along with it... and the angles of *that* material wouldn't be so "pure". That said for this specific video, and I think Vlad may have caught on to this as well... he was just off center enough and it didn't quite reach hair raising speeds... but I don't think anyone should ever push that any further. I was relieved to see that they resisted the urge to really spool it up.
Im guessing that for every 15 minute video. There has to be at least 40 hours of preparation/fabrication associated with the build. These guys invest an incredible amout of time in these projects. And i like the detail- rebar welded onto the bearing plate to hopefully prevent the enertia wheel from flying off in the event of a failure. 😮😮
In the 1950’s a British company manufactured small buses powered by an inertia wheel. Biggest issue was turning due to the precession. They tilted it to help. One country ran them for decades. They could transport people for a good distance. The bus route had two charging stations.
@@biohazard8295 check out the GyroBus. It had a small electric motor and would pass by charging points that would use the motor to spin up the flywheel.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it was called the "Gyro-bus," though it'd be interesting to see if there was another manufacturer that utilized this technology.
If I remember correctly. They recharged the flywheel at each station. But it was eventful cancelled because the power needed to spin up the flywheel was more then cost of conventional engines. Also the distance was that impressive so it was mandatory to spin them back up at each station or risk running out before the next stop. Interesting idea and can probably be improved upon with today's technology
The Parry People Mover (class 139) which operates on the Stourbridge Town shuttle service it powered by a flywheel system. A small LPG fuelled engine spins up the flywheel which is supplemented by regenerative braking.
Doesn't matter how well they balance it, there's just too much centrifugal force here for this to even think of getting to highway speeds. Those bearings would never be able to handle it. And even if they could, they'd never be able to turn with that thing at speed, either.
They’re not qualified to do that safely. Would require legitimate engineering with some actual figuring, and every part of it would have to be rebuilt accordingly.
Their flywheel design is inefficient. It should more resemble a concrete mixing truck. Length vise there is more space and less danger to driver. The flywheel should be applied as brakes to conserve energy downhill. This is an experiment they can already do by putting the car on a hill to begin with. This would allow for mathematics of kinetic/potential energy conversion of elementary mathematics. Differential needed between engine and flywheel so that human error cannot blow up engine by ruining harmony. Flywheel applied before gearbox (+differential) to be able to utilize flywheel at a higher speed. Flywheel could be charged by air resistance (watermill) to further improve efficiency. Add huuuuuge ballbearings like the ones on top of a BMP or T72; combined with concrete mixer design.
Flywheel vehicles do/have existed. Look up the Gyrobus. But what Garage 54 did was directly drive the wheels from the inertial energy, which is less common from what I know. Most use the flywheel to turn a generator which then powers an electric motor.
@karlwithak. That would actually be pretty damn cool! On a long race you could also time coming in for a pit stop to spin up the flywheel as part of your strategy. But yeah, with random public smashing the cars around and the lack of maintenance that comes with things like that it wouldn't be a good idea safety and liability wise... But I'd still drive one.
These guys are crazy, and I mean that in a good way. I would of never thought about a project such as this. And I got the ibbie jibbies Everytime someone got behind that spinning disc. If that sucker came loose, holly cow, I don't even want to think about it! I wonder how many walls that rascal could go through.
I would love to see a project similar to a toy car I had as a kid, it looked like a VW Beetle and the only thing it did was to open the hood when you pushed it forward, its a simple mechanism like the one from the engine valves, its a groove on the front wheel shaft that pushes the hood up after a full cycle, we called it the "chomp chomp car"
I had a VW beetle toy car as a kid, the body plastic detached at the front and the lower chassis part was only held on by the rear bumper clips... I'd run around the house flapping it around like a pac man when I wasn't using it as a car 😂 It was one of my favorite toy cars for years, even though it was so basic, just 2 plastic molds with 2 axles snapped in.
I collect hot wheels. I have a Beatles submarine and the jurassic world dome car matchbox. And some of those micro sets from movies, the Harry Potter one, the fast 9 one, and the back to the future ones
here in sweden volvo busses have this to save fule. on start and stop in the citys. if i remember right its used as a brake to stopp and when leaving the built up inertia is used to accelerate
FAKE: I've never seen a flywheel mounted on a bus like this. What? You think it would be safe to have a gigantic spinning wheel strapped to the back of the bus with people walking everywhere? Obviously what you are saying is fake!
Thank you fellas for the upload, it was very entertaining, much love from the UK. And thank you BMI Russian for the voice over and translation, you are a legend!!
I believe they are also thankful for your ad views and support of Russia. Every view you contribute is essentially a bonus to the Russian state budget.
@@NDAndrey Im not quite sure what you mean by that mate as we dont pay to watch the advert, the advertisers pay per monetary view! so doesn't matter where you watch it from the advertisers pay the same amount. Sensing a little bit of delusion if you think this makes a difference in a WAR. Before you try get smart again i also run ADBLOCK. Still helping the channel with your view and multiple comments, so once again mate thanks for your SUPPORT ;) im sure Garage 54 appreciates it !!
@@NDAndrey right, and every bottle of Coca Cola anyone buys anywhere in the world contributes to the bombing of Yemen if we're going to have a stretching contest🙄
need to try inertia braking, engage the belts when coming into a turn to slow down, then change the ratio between the flywheel and the tires and put that energy back into speeding up after the turn. There was a race car that played around with this a while back.
You guys are amazing! This is an idea, I thought about since I was a kid!. Would a heavy flywheel that was perfectly balanced and, engaged through braking, then dis-engaged as I stopped. And when re-engaged, accelerate the car from a dead stop, saving fuel. And here it is right in front of me! You built it! Your mechanics are excellent inventors and craftsmen. Thanks for building a dream I had some 60 years ago!! I can be done!
Now, what would make this complete would be a set of carbide cutting tips from a stump grinder. Perfect for anyone who can't keep a safe distance from the rear of your car!😂
My father, brother and I all came up with a few alternative designs for automobile propulsion in the early '90s, and one of them involved a flywheel in place of a battery. All of our design ideas were small turbine engine over electric, with DC motors at each wheel for AWD. Battery tech wasn't there yet so we came up with compressed air or flywheels for storing the energy generated from the turbine generator and the regenerative braking. Pretty cool watching someone build and test a crude prototype of that idea. It works way better than I expected it to.
some LMP1 cars had flywheels for the hybrid system, but that stopped when a regulation change limited the strength of the secondary power source the flywheel was better for giving bursts of power for a short time, not the extended slow discharge
Could you somehow connect the flywheel to a 4 speed transmission? Maybe the gear reduction could be used to spin up the flywheel as well as power the car. Balance it better.
Pretty dangerous! but you know, a bit of rebar welded over the axle incase it lets loose, good to go! 2 minute montage = 2 weeks of careful welding and balancing and figuring out the ratios, always impressive how much effort they put into each video.
Air powered car "can you push the pistons with AIR PSI replace spark plugs with electric pnumatic solenoids so when the plug fires the solenoid injects air into the cylinders. run a 30 gallon compressor off an inverter generator .
Yes, but it would take a giant compressor and a giant generator to power it to even come close to matching the performance of a standard engine. While running, the explosions produce peak cylinder pressures of well over 1000 PSI, which would be virtually impossible to match with compressed air, especially considering the small size of the spark plug holes and the tiny fraction of a second available to fill the cylinders.
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Yep this was definitely done in russia. Didn't even attach an emergency braking system to the inertia wheel in case problems arise.... Could you imagine that thing spinning at $3,000 RPMs or faster and they have a mechanical malfunction with the engine or the belt system? That wheel would literally continue to spin the rest of the day and probably vibrate itself loose tearing everything to pieces...
Need to try without it get a fuel base line then put it on and see if saves fuel or if Getting it going Uses that much more fuel that u don’t save any or use more
The good thing for you is that if it lets loose, it should go out back away from the car. Not so good for your support crew is that it will be going towards them.
Have it "spool up" while driving and use it with a pto or transmission that you can use on the fly like mechanical nitrous oxide for extra power on the fly
Nice setup...^^ If your flywheel was build as a original vintage one with most of it's mass at it's outher rim and good balance it would run way way WAY longer...;) But i have enjoyed this video very much...:D Spasibo...^^
@karlwithak. Sounds more like a capacitor than a battery! Cool idea. I actually had a similar idea that also used it as a gyroscope for a motorcycle. Braking would be like KERS, and provide stability while stopped
Okay....you want me to share some comments and suggestions. Let's start with your design of flywheel. Flywheels do not have to be a giant diameter, to get the job done. You can make a small diameter, wider, extremely heavy flywheel. It would be much easier to balance it, as well. That way, your gear ratio that you're using currently would work much better because you're spinning your flywheel at 10 times the RPM, safely. Another suggestion. You could spin it up with a small engine, like a 420cc, and connect the flywheel to the manual transmission, just like the motor would... and that way you could shift through the gears while your gyro is spinning..... just some food for thought, I'd like to see you guys try some of these ideas.😏👍
You could try to spin the wheel by braking (applying the inercia wheel "clutch" while running, starting with the wheel stopped). This would be like "regenerating braking".
Alright, so... Hear me out. Do one with a zipper line now. You know, the toy cars where you run the toothed line through, then YANK it out to spin up the flywheel? You'll have to yank it with a trebuchet, but you can use the engine as ballast on THAT instead.
Any idea on the rpm of the disk? I'm guessing about 50rpm. If so, it's storing only about 0.5 Wh of energy, less if it's slower. Honestly, it's pretty tiny, unlikely to fly apart (except by vibration). Get it up to 10,000rpm and you have something! (18 kWh)
Volvo did something like this a decade or so ago with prototypes. The engine spun a disk to thousands of RPM and then from a stop the car used the inertia to get it moving, all in an effort to save gas without a hybrid system. Of course it never made it to market.
I think it was Volvo who did something like this just before electrification and hybrids became popular. They called it the KERS or kinetic energy recovery system. A massive flywheel connected to the rear axle with a CVT so it can recover kinetic energy when slowing down (brakes applied) and then engage again from a stop to give the car a boost. A really cool mostly mechanical idea. Its neat to see it implemented so simply here.
I love this video,the car would probably go further if the flywheel spun in the same direction as it travels,the whole conservation of momentum, right now it's fighting itself I think.either way I love this video and will be subscribing
Another great video boys, keep it up from here in the UK👍🏼👍🏼 I love old eastern bloc vehicles, I have a CZ and a Voskhod motorcycle, I’d love a Lada but they are very rare now in the UK!
Привет друг из города где делали эти мотоциклы) У нас тут ещё много целых "Восходов"😊. На моей аватарке последняя из выпущенных моделей до прекращения производства.
That’s a interesting bike Alex, I’ve never seen that model? mine is a Voskhod 2 but fitted with the early round barrel. My dream is to find an IZH planeta and Jupiter but again they are very rare in the UK.
There was a bus that worked like.this, it had a massive flywheel and an electric motor that powered it with mains voltage in the bus stops, it had enough energy to move the bus from stop to stop, pretty cool
I have always wanted to take this full size large airplane propeller I have and mount it on a stand above the rear trunk area on a car. Then power the propeller with a belt drive coming from the driveshaft with a clutch mechanism. It would be interesting to see how it would affect fuel mileage and handling, and would look beautifully ridiculous 😆
Hahahaha I bet there's 10,000 Karen gear heads nit picking the shit out of this so I'll say.... SHUT THE FRONT DOOR....!! I wanted to build something like this but start with a go-kart first....!! I have another one to.... A car that is operated solely off magnetic energy.... I'm trying so far fastest I can come to is 44mph... Hahaha that's great y'all good build that made my day....!!! Human size Inertia car hahahahah cool....
Hi..as u used the technic of the toy I think u missed something important which is the leaf spring to power this thing and to be installed horisontally with the relyable width and scale with a smaller flywheel and gears do the job of v/h diretion of motion like in grinders or so ...I'm looking forward seeing this applied in a vedio on ur channel..
Sir I love ur channel and I have subscribed it a long time ago since when may be u guys started I guess GARAGE 54 . I enjoy ur videos a lot I ALWAYS FEEL U SHOULD TRY PROPELLER ON THE TOP OF THAT LADA PLS GIVE IT A TRY LOVE FROM INDIA 🇮🇳… to all my Russian mechanic brothers ..
Can you make an High quality sound recording of just the fly wheel spinning? Можете ли вы сделать высококачественную звукозапись просто вращения колеса?
the gyro bus was invented in switzerland 1950, a 3 tonne flywheel was spun up with electricity in a case with hydrogen gas to reduce air friction. rpm was 3000 rpm ruclips.net/video/eygNSRW03l0/видео.html this video covers it. your in the ball park with this one. grate video and entertaining and informative as always. thankyou
look i like what way do yoy think, at first, at least, If thr theory, is correct, the lorys, shoud be able runnind, vidt etremme leak of energy imput. All you need is just weight. free energy moving transport equipment. FEMTE
have the flywheel connect to a seperate gear box, balance it real well, and spin it fast. see if you can make it thru the gears and get up to speed on flywheel only!
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you may want to reverse rotating direction, better aerodynamics and no risk of being cut in half by 200kg 100% rotating mass KERS aka biggest chop shop butcher cutting wheel following you... or put it on the front add drag and help balance the car...you need weight sacles to decide which racing setup is better...
Spinning the wheel would be a lot easier on the clutch if you started driving with the belts loose, and put tension on the belts once underway. Also, balance that wheel and really get it going. Look at buying a used industrial wood chipper; they are a large thick steel disc and bearings meant to cope with significant rotation speed and dynamic loads.
If Vlad says something is imbalanced, take his word for it. The guy welded a rail to a flywheel LOLOL
It's not super impressive when you realize they had the center hole burned at the same time as the O.D so it's concentric as long as you use the right size shaft.
Then again Vlad is the madman behind all these various different experiments he and the crew tried throughout the years, so he's definitely the wild wacky DIY type person who comes up with batshit crazy ideas whether they make sense or not lol
Vlad is the Hackdaddy Deluxe.
@@joshuagibson2520 😆👌
LOLOL
Well, that's one way to keep people from tailgating you! The threat of a giant flywheel sawing their car in half should keep them off your ass! 😆
weld a big wrench onto your bumper so it looks like it can slide off at any monent. works well too XD
Having been involved in a "flywheel separation event" and caught the result first hand, this one is a bit unnerving to see. *Always* make sure you are out of the plane of rotation (with some extra margin just in case).
I'm all about the typical mayhem these guys like to have fun with... I'd like to keep enjoying it.
You've never driven in Los Angeles or Boston, have you?
@@MadScientist267 I was glad to see it was running in reverse, worse comes to worse it should go away from the driver.. but tailgaters would get what they deserve :) . What's the next step? Balancing and vacuum chamber/protection cage I reckon.
@@robmanueb. My main concern was that it might fly into pieces which would have gone in all directions along that plane, convincing anything in its way to go along with it... and the angles of *that* material wouldn't be so "pure".
That said for this specific video, and I think Vlad may have caught on to this as well... he was just off center enough and it didn't quite reach hair raising speeds... but I don't think anyone should ever push that any further. I was relieved to see that they resisted the urge to really spool it up.
Im guessing that for every 15 minute video. There has to be at least 40 hours of preparation/fabrication associated with the build. These guys invest an incredible amout of time in these projects. And i like the detail- rebar welded onto the bearing plate to hopefully prevent the enertia wheel from flying off in the event of a failure. 😮😮
In the 1950’s a British company manufactured small buses powered by an inertia wheel. Biggest issue was turning due to the precession. They tilted it to help. One country ran them for decades. They could transport people for a good distance. The bus route had two charging stations.
This is super interesting. Do you know how they were called?
@@biohazard8295 check out the GyroBus. It had a small electric motor and would pass by charging points that would use the motor to spin up the flywheel.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it was called the "Gyro-bus," though it'd be interesting to see if there was another manufacturer that utilized this technology.
If I remember correctly. They recharged the flywheel at each station. But it was eventful cancelled because the power needed to spin up the flywheel was more then cost of conventional engines. Also the distance was that impressive so it was mandatory to spin them back up at each station or risk running out before the next stop.
Interesting idea and can probably be improved upon with today's technology
The Parry People Mover (class 139) which operates on the Stourbridge Town shuttle service it powered by a flywheel system. A small LPG fuelled engine spins up the flywheel which is supplemented by regenerative braking.
Please balance the flywheel and test at highway speeds! This is so amazing.
YES
That would be fun , but I suspect that might be highly dangerous.
Especially given the car is cut up to accommodate the giant flywheel.
The speed of the wheel would be scary at 6000 rpm, and it may be faster than that. Belt slippage would kill it . They do chains……..
Doesn't matter how well they balance it, there's just too much centrifugal force here for this to even think of getting to highway speeds. Those bearings would never be able to handle it. And even if they could, they'd never be able to turn with that thing at speed, either.
They’re not qualified to do that safely. Would require legitimate engineering with some actual figuring, and every part of it would have to be rebuilt accordingly.
It's this kind of fooling around that leads to true innovation. Never stop!
Their flywheel design is inefficient.
It should more resemble a concrete mixing truck.
Length vise there is more space and less danger to driver.
The flywheel should be applied as brakes to conserve energy downhill. This is an experiment they can already do by putting the car on a hill to begin with. This would allow for mathematics of kinetic/potential energy conversion of elementary mathematics.
Differential needed between engine and flywheel so that human error cannot blow up engine by ruining harmony.
Flywheel applied before gearbox (+differential) to be able to utilize flywheel at a higher speed.
Flywheel could be charged by air resistance (watermill) to further improve efficiency.
Add huuuuuge ballbearings like the ones on top of a BMP or T72; combined with concrete mixer design.
Another crazy idea i never could have imagined! That's why i love these guys.
Flywheel vehicles do/have existed. Look up the Gyrobus.
But what Garage 54 did was directly drive the wheels from the inertial energy, which is less common from what I know. Most use the flywheel to turn a generator which then powers an electric motor.
@karlwithak. That would actually be pretty damn cool! On a long race you could also time coming in for a pit stop to spin up the flywheel as part of your strategy.
But yeah, with random public smashing the cars around and the lack of maintenance that comes with things like that it wouldn't be a good idea safety and liability wise... But I'd still drive one.
These guys are crazy, and I mean that in a good way. I would of never thought about a project such as this. And I got the ibbie jibbies Everytime someone got behind that spinning disc. If that sucker came loose, holly cow, I don't even want to think about it! I wonder how many walls that rascal could go through.
@karlwithak. Just stand clear and we will all be okay.
It's Russia🇷🇺
With that thing spinning at high speed it will become very difficult to turn the car due to the gyroscopic effect.
This problem was present in the Gyrobus produced in some countries since 1950.
it will understeer like crazy
They could rotate it to spin on the z axis and it would double as stability control lol.
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Make a quick release shaft for the flywheel to launch it like you did for the spinning tire launcher a while back.
🤣🤣 I like that. 👍
I would love to see a project similar to a toy car I had as a kid, it looked like a VW Beetle and the only thing it did was to open the hood when you pushed it forward, its a simple mechanism like the one from the engine valves, its a groove on the front wheel shaft that pushes the hood up after a full cycle, we called it the "chomp chomp car"
I had 1 that flapped all the doors boot and bonnet when pushed along 😂 now that would be cool to see
I had a VW beetle toy car as a kid, the body plastic detached at the front and the lower chassis part was only held on by the rear bumper clips... I'd run around the house flapping it around like a pac man when I wasn't using it as a car 😂
It was one of my favorite toy cars for years, even though it was so basic, just 2 plastic molds with 2 axles snapped in.
@@volvo09Sounds like a good memory. :)
I still have a couple of those!! From the 50s and 60s! They were made by Bandai. 👌🤣👍
I collect hot wheels. I have a Beatles submarine and the jurassic world dome car matchbox. And some of those micro sets from movies, the Harry Potter one, the fast 9 one, and the back to the future ones
here in sweden volvo busses have this to save fule. on start and stop in the citys. if i remember right its used as a brake to stopp and when leaving the built up inertia is used to accelerate
FAKE: I've never seen a flywheel mounted on a bus like this. What? You think it would be safe to have a gigantic spinning wheel strapped to the back of the bus with people walking everywhere? Obviously what you are saying is fake!
@@swedishpsychopath8795"Volvo's flywheel bus could lead the way" ~ Commercial Motor, page 27, 14th June 1980
@@swedishpsychopath8795 so have you ever seen a lada at the bus stop.. it´s not mounter external. 🤣🤣
I'm sure I watched that exact explanation on "Tomorrow's World" on British TV decades ago
Can't find it, bit did find a preview of "Popular Science May 1961" containing fine detail of a brake regen flywheel system for UK double deckers...
Thank you fellas for the upload, it was very entertaining, much love from the UK.
And thank you BMI Russian for the voice over and translation, you are a legend!!
I believe they are also thankful for your ad views and support of Russia. Every view you contribute is essentially a bonus to the Russian state budget.
@@NDAndrey if that's the case then you have done the same by clicking on this video so thank you for your support buddy :)
@@IvyMike. Advertising from Ukraine is very cheap, unlike in Europe or the USA. Plus, ADBLOCK.
@@NDAndrey Im not quite sure what you mean by that mate as we dont pay to watch the advert, the advertisers pay per monetary view! so doesn't matter where you watch it from the advertisers pay the same amount. Sensing a little bit of delusion if you think this makes a difference in a WAR. Before you try get smart again i also run ADBLOCK. Still helping the channel with your view and multiple comments, so once again mate thanks for your SUPPORT ;) im sure Garage 54 appreciates it !!
@@NDAndrey right, and every bottle of Coca Cola anyone buys anywhere in the world contributes to the bombing of Yemen if we're going to have a stretching contest🙄
No clue how you don't run out of Ideas
It's the Siberian A-Team, they can't run out of ideas.
They often get ideas from RUclips commenters like yourself.
Our comments help for sure!!
@@iknowyourebrokeauto468 i think they only read thr comments on the russian channel, i have suggested some brilliant ideas before
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Pure science! What a fun project.
need to try inertia braking, engage the belts when coming into a turn to slow down, then change the ratio between the flywheel and the tires and put that energy back into speeding up after the turn. There was a race car that played around with this a while back.
Good idea. 👍
The race car couldn’t overcome the wheel’s inertia in the corners. It wanted to go through the walls instead of turn
it was funny how it would slingshot forward after slowing down though. Yeah I wonder if they thought of that beforehand @@bigfuzzzybear
It was the Audi R18 that had this tech. And it DOMINATED.
I was thinking of one of the Dyson Lolas in like 2010@@Spadookie
You guys are amazing! This is an idea, I thought about since I was a kid!. Would a heavy flywheel that was perfectly balanced and, engaged through braking, then dis-engaged as I stopped. And when re-engaged, accelerate the car from a dead stop, saving fuel. And here it is right in front of me! You built it! Your mechanics are excellent inventors and craftsmen. Thanks for building a dream I had some 60 years ago!! I can be done!
Same but for my bike
@@Thefreakyfreek esse volante pesado poderia ser movido por pedal...
Ok, the inertia car is a sucess!
Now try making a pull-back car! LOL
Too damn many changes in direction with those multiple differentials. Any change in vector results in losses and they all add up.
A RUclips called Joel creates did this, very difficult
Find a way to use bungee cords and a sprag clutch. That'd be awesome.
That thing looks like a Darwin Award in progress, you couldn't pay me to get in that car
it's like a mechanical capacitor
It's a battery not a capacitor.
@@XtreeM_FaiLIt's actually just a large piece of steel
@@justin2221 Which store energy and release it slowly when needed.
Solves our problems of storing sunlight during the day to release at night
Now, what would make this complete would be a set of carbide cutting tips from a stump grinder. Perfect for anyone who can't keep a safe distance from the rear of your car!😂
Your content is what youtube is for imo , Great stuff fella"s !
My father, brother and I all came up with a few alternative designs for automobile propulsion in the early '90s, and one of them involved a flywheel in place of a battery. All of our design ideas were small turbine engine over electric, with DC motors at each wheel for AWD. Battery tech wasn't there yet so we came up with compressed air or flywheels for storing the energy generated from the turbine generator and the regenerative braking. Pretty cool watching someone build and test a crude prototype of that idea. It works way better than I expected it to.
some LMP1 cars had flywheels for the hybrid system, but that stopped when a regulation change limited the strength of the secondary power source
the flywheel was better for giving bursts of power for a short time, not the extended slow discharge
Could you somehow connect the flywheel to a 4 speed transmission? Maybe the gear reduction could be used to spin up the flywheel as well as power the car.
Balance it better.
Show Us your line of Russian Built Trucks , like GAZ nex gen Trackmaster or Ural line of Russian Tough Machines.
Pretty dangerous! but you know, a bit of rebar welded over the axle incase it lets loose, good to go! 2 minute montage = 2 weeks of careful welding and balancing and figuring out the ratios, always impressive how much effort they put into each video.
I had this idea as a child when the car breaks why dont we connect it to a spring and we can gain momentum? anyways nice video
Steering, slalom test with the fly wheel!
Ah, some of my favorite Russians . :)
I've noticed at least one of the guys commonly seen has been missing from the videos.
I wonder if he was mobilized...
Killer! Maybe try a full-scale pull-back toy next?
Could a variomatic be suitable in this setup? Also, I'd like to see the performance on asphalt instead of snow..
Yes :)
there used to be city buses here in the US that used flywheels for a power source. this should be a cool experiment.
Heres a idea What if you redo the test but make the flywheel smaller and make speed holes so it's lighter and off course balance it
7:43 shaking like he drunk too much vodka yesterday :D
His hand was on the shifter while it was vibrating from the strain on the clutch/ transmission
@@whiteknightsoloflights4458 i know. i was just joking ;D
Air powered car "can you push the pistons with AIR PSI replace spark plugs with electric pnumatic solenoids so when the plug fires the solenoid injects air into the cylinders. run a 30 gallon compressor off an inverter generator .
Yes, but it would take a giant compressor and a giant generator to power it to even come close to matching the performance of a standard engine. While running, the explosions produce peak cylinder pressures of well over 1000 PSI, which would be virtually impossible to match with compressed air, especially considering the small size of the spark plug holes and the tiny fraction of a second available to fill the cylinders.
This is seriously dangerous, the amount of energy stored in that wheel is insane.
And that's exactly why I'm watching 😊
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Very interesting Sir.....I take my hat off to you.
Nick from the UK.
i was a welders helper so long that i still turn my head when welding.
Is there a way to spin up the flywheel to pre-tension it? So when it releases it sligshots the car at a higher speed?
Yep this was definitely done in russia. Didn't even attach an emergency braking system to the inertia wheel in case problems arise.... Could you imagine that thing spinning at $3,000 RPMs or faster and they have a mechanical malfunction with the engine or the belt system? That wheel would literally continue to spin the rest of the day and probably vibrate itself loose tearing everything to pieces...
This is something you would see done only in Russia or rural America.
why does everything end with "m"
for example "surprise for yam"
Funny. The thumbnail car is blue.
But the test car is light color
Isso ai rodando muito rapido sera que interfere ao virar uma curva ?
Need to try without it get a fuel base line then put it on and see if saves fuel or if Getting it going Uses that much more fuel that u don’t save any or use more
For some reason I was expecting some version of the toy car that you pull backwards and then release for it to take off forwards.
Me too
how about a Spring powered car?
The racing car Audi R18 e-tron quattro already did that loool
brilliant test: no surprise, there are buses that are powered by flywheels (they make them spin at the parking site)
Take the smallest moped engine you can find and put it in the car
inertia hybrid. regen braking then launch with flywheel power
10:38 Sound like with the tractor in Gta San Andreas!!!
The good thing for you is that if it lets loose, it should go out back away from the car. Not so good for your support crew is that it will be going towards them.
Have it "spool up" while driving and use it with a pto or transmission that you can use on the fly like mechanical nitrous oxide for extra power on the fly
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You have great program, you, and your crew, are very talented, in in solving all problems,
Do you know that's almost what Williams designed as its first KERS? Porsche used it in a GT3
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Nice setup...^^
If your flywheel was build as a original vintage one with most of it's mass at it's outher rim and good balance it would run way way WAY longer...;)
But i have enjoyed this video very much...:D
Spasibo...^^
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anyone wanna do the math on the force of that thing at full song? 200kg spinning that fast is scary
@karlwithak. Sounds more like a capacitor than a battery!
Cool idea. I actually had a similar idea that also used it as a gyroscope for a motorcycle. Braking would be like KERS, and provide stability while stopped
@karlwithak. The gyroscopic effect would only be in effect while stationary. Used to stop and stabilize, and expended when re-accelerating
Okay....you want me to share some comments and suggestions. Let's start with your design of flywheel. Flywheels do not have to be a giant diameter, to get the job done. You can make a small diameter, wider, extremely heavy flywheel. It would be much easier to balance it, as well. That way, your gear ratio that you're using currently would work much better because you're spinning your flywheel at 10 times the RPM, safely. Another suggestion. You could spin it up with a small engine, like a 420cc, and connect the flywheel to the manual transmission, just like the motor would... and that way you could shift through the gears while your gyro is spinning..... just some food for thought, I'd like to see you guys try some of these ideas.😏👍
11:20 I didn't know he was half asian.
You could try to spin the wheel by braking (applying the inercia wheel "clutch" while running, starting with the wheel stopped). This would be like "regenerating braking".
hi Garage 54 can you try convert alternator as BLDC motor and make hybrid car
Hahajajajaj, with a go-cart engine
Alright, so... Hear me out. Do one with a zipper line now. You know, the toy cars where you run the toothed line through, then YANK it out to spin up the flywheel? You'll have to yank it with a trebuchet, but you can use the engine as ballast on THAT instead.
Any idea on the rpm of the disk? I'm guessing about 50rpm. If so, it's storing only about 0.5 Wh of energy, less if it's slower. Honestly, it's pretty tiny, unlikely to fly apart (except by vibration). Get it up to 10,000rpm and you have something! (18 kWh)
Volvo did something like this a decade or so ago with prototypes. The engine spun a disk to thousands of RPM and then from a stop the car used the inertia to get it moving, all in an effort to save gas without a hybrid system. Of course it never made it to market.
Make pistons out of tungsten!
I think it was Volvo who did something like this just before electrification and hybrids became popular. They called it the KERS or kinetic energy recovery system. A massive flywheel connected to the rear axle with a CVT so it can recover kinetic energy when slowing down (brakes applied) and then engage again from a stop to give the car a boost. A really cool mostly mechanical idea.
Its neat to see it implemented so simply here.
I wonder how much that actually affects gas consumption. Insaine that people even think of things like that
Williams bought a company to make an F1 kers based on a flywheel ( which has been used in buses), it made it to some le mans cars.
I love this video,the car would probably go further if the flywheel spun in the same direction as it travels,the whole conservation of momentum, right now it's fighting itself I think.either way I love this video and will be subscribing
they don't need a big flywheel but a heavy one, and smaller flywheel will be easier to balance (ask Isaac Newton, he knows how inertia works)
Another great video boys, keep it up from here in the UK👍🏼👍🏼
I love old eastern bloc vehicles, I have a CZ and a Voskhod motorcycle, I’d love a Lada but they are very rare now in the UK!
Привет друг из города где делали эти мотоциклы) У нас тут ещё много целых "Восходов"😊. На моей аватарке последняя из выпущенных моделей до прекращения производства.
That’s a interesting bike Alex, I’ve never seen that model? mine is a Voskhod 2 but fitted with the early round barrel. My dream is to find an IZH planeta and Jupiter but again they are very rare in the UK.
Interesting concept, carried out anc crafter very well. Congratulations! Интересная концепция, выполнена очень хорошо. Поздравляю!
There was a bus that worked like.this, it had a massive flywheel and an electric motor that powered it with mains voltage in the bus stops, it had enough energy to move the bus from stop to stop, pretty cool
I have always wanted to take this full size large airplane propeller I have and mount it on a stand above the rear trunk area on a car. Then power the propeller with a belt drive coming from the driveshaft with a clutch mechanism. It would be interesting to see how it would affect fuel mileage and handling, and would look beautifully ridiculous 😆
Hahahaha I bet there's 10,000 Karen gear heads nit picking the shit out of this so I'll say.... SHUT THE FRONT DOOR....!! I wanted to build something like this but start with a go-kart first....!! I have another one to.... A car that is operated solely off magnetic energy.... I'm trying so far fastest I can come to is 44mph... Hahaha that's great y'all good build that made my day....!!! Human size Inertia car hahahahah cool....
Hi..as u used the technic of the toy I think u missed something important which is the leaf spring to power this thing and to be installed horisontally with the relyable width and scale with a smaller flywheel and gears do the job of v/h diretion of motion like in grinders or so ...I'm looking forward seeing this applied in a vedio on ur channel..
There is an article in Popular Mechanics about 1974 about this idea being explored with a giant flywheel at the base of the car
Sir I love ur channel and I have subscribed it a long time ago since when may be u guys started I guess GARAGE 54 . I enjoy ur videos a lot
I ALWAYS FEEL U SHOULD TRY PROPELLER ON THE TOP OF THAT LADA PLS GIVE IT A TRY
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balance the flywheel properly and spin it up to top speed. Augment the output speed with agricultural CVT
Can you make an High quality sound recording of just the fly wheel spinning?
Можете ли вы сделать высококачественную звукозапись просто вращения колеса?
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EVERY car should have such a flywheel :D (to store breaking energy) 😎🍻🤘🏻👍🏻
One *HILARIOUS* yet expensive project would be to put an Edison Motors diesel-electric hybrid pickup upgrade kit in a Lada--AWD, of course! :rofl:
chrome pistons and cylinders
хромированные поршни и цилиндры
Remotely spin it up much faster than you have been, then release it. It would be interesting to know the RPM of the wheel too.
the gyro bus was invented in switzerland 1950, a 3 tonne flywheel was spun up with electricity in a case with hydrogen gas to reduce air friction. rpm was 3000 rpm ruclips.net/video/eygNSRW03l0/видео.html this video covers it. your in the ball park with this one. grate video and entertaining and informative as always. thankyou
Balance the thing and spinn it up to 1'000'000 rpm and see how fast and far you go. :)
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have the flywheel connect to a seperate gear box, balance it real well, and spin it fast. see if you can make it thru the gears and get up to speed on flywheel only!
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GM, Volvo and Porsche all experimented up to the late 00s with a inertia flywheel hybrid / KERS from a UPS system. Batteries then got cheaper
you may want to reverse rotating direction, better aerodynamics and no risk of being cut in half by 200kg 100% rotating mass KERS aka biggest chop shop butcher cutting wheel following you... or put it on the front add drag and help balance the car...you need weight sacles to decide which racing setup is better...
Spinning the wheel would be a lot easier on the clutch if you started driving with the belts loose, and put tension on the belts once underway.
Also, balance that wheel and really get it going.
Look at buying a used industrial wood chipper; they are a large thick steel disc and bearings meant to cope with significant rotation speed and dynamic loads.
You've made a flywheel hybrid systems (KERS) ... no Formula 1 car required.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this idea is gonna be some startup Idea, and it's going to gather some attention 😂😂😂.
Mark my words