Mass Effect 5: Merging Both Galaxies
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- Опубликовано: 30 окт 2023
- A year ago I made my Mass Effect Andromeda Will Continue video, and this is me coming back a year later to further analyze the possible connections and how exactly Andromeda will be involved in the next game.
If you're interested in more Mass Effect videos, please check out my other videos
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Wake up babe, new Kala Elizabeth video just dropped!
I've never been more grateful that the Mass Effect fandom has some awesome RUclipsrs I can watch to get hyped
25 minutes? This is gon' be good.
Warming up some mulled wine.
...what? Christmas officially starts at Halloween in Sweden.
Allegedly.
You guys wait until Halloween...here in the states ( at least where I'm at ) Christmas stuff starts showing up on Oct. 1st..
Mass Effect Andromeda 2: Conrad Verners Journey!
Andromeda wasn't for me, however dealing with the remnants of the initiative and possibly benefactor that remained behind could be an interesting mission in the game. I'd prefer they keep the 2 timelines as separate as possible. Plz no multiverse/time travel/clone or Shepard's child. I agree with you and would like ME to stay as grounded as possible. Have a good one, Kala!
That I do agree that the trilogy and Andromeda should be it's own
Andromeda was lame and confusing
@@brandonvladovic4194 I know it was it would've been better if they stayed with their roots and had the original characters back
I think we are making a mountain trying to unite the anromeda galaxy with ours.
I think personally that in the trailer we have seen the andromeda galaxy but majority of the time the action of those trailers are set on the milky way and one with liara.
So to me ota just that something in the game maybe happens related to the andromeda galaxy like some easier egg.
But the action will be set on our galaxy.
Usually the simplier the better for the theories and stuff.
I just want the game to be good I still remember the hope of recent games and theories about them and then what is actually doeable in game and usually the theories have better lore than the actual game.
I really hope for Mass effect to suceed becuz I just love that saga
I find your videos to not only be entertaining but thought provoking. Thank you for putting this type of content out there for us to enjoy. Speculation is a fun way to pass the time.
One thought that keeps bubbling up in my mind is this: Those in Andromeda were 'frozen in time' so to speak. The technology they have and everything is at the same level as ME3. When Ryder is out galavanting about, the Milky Way had gone 600 years advanced with technology. Just looking at how it is now, how much technology and advancement was done in a scant 100 years around the time of ME1-3, think about how much MORE technology there would be in 600 years. It is very possible a 700 year old Liara, with resources of the shadow broker and friends among many of the advanced civilizations leaders, could have come up with any number of ways to not only 'revive' some form of Shepard but also find a way of instant galactic travel. I had been hesitant (and still am in a lot of ways) to any form of Shepard returning, but with that thought of 600 years (that's a crap load of time) of technological advancement in science, medicine and evolution, I am not vehemently opposed to it so much.
Personally I would much prefer to have Andromeda be sort of an off shoot of ME. Have it be it's own franchise like Dragon Age. I want the answers to the threads in Andromeda. I loved ME:A and want to see it continued without interference from the Milky Way. ME:NEW ONE (4/5, whatever) showing Liara as a teaser should continue in the Milky Way and not involve those from Andromeda at all. Is that how it's going to play out? Who knows. I would like to see a teaser game that has the beginnings of combining the two maybe eventually, then a return to ME:A to finish that out in it's own trilogy or even just one sequel so we can get the answers to Jardaan, Scourge, etc. Then have the two franchises combine. Think long term, people. Unfortunately corporations and executives only have short term sight so creating a game franchise with a very long term goal isn't going to happen.
I think the Geth were looking for the reapers with their FTL telescope
Wonderful video btw, thank you!
Thank you for this video Kala! Amazing, I enjoyed this a lot. It shows how much preparation and editing time is needed to get a high quality video, like this one, out for us. Thank you so much for what you do for the Mass Effect community!
I’m in the camp that the Jardaan are a strain of the Prothean Empire. It’s not unreasonable to think that someone in their age would have the same idea of starting something new in another galaxy like the Initiative did. They and us had already taken advantage of many similar technologies. They also knew how to do cryostasis. And the fact the Jardaan wanted to play god in a different way than the Protheans did it is a perfect tie together.
You forget a simple explanation: the traveler's paradox. As technology gets more advanced, travel times get cut down. So the 600 year journey it took the initiative could be cut down to 300 years or 200 years by more advanced technology over the next few centuries.
They can use reaper technology that is far more advanced than this of humans and aliens from MW
I think it was hinted that the Geth were looking at the Reaper fleet sitting in dark space but if there is something else I’d love to explore it the Geth were one of my fav factions to explore lore wise
I do hope they don't make us jump back and forth in the 2 timelines. In Andromeda with Ryder for a bit go back to the Milky Way with Liara. Go back to Ryder to go back to Liara. To clarify play as Ryder to play as let's say Shepard to jump between the 2 characters and their stories. I personally also don't want to see a multiverse nor time travel. With both multiverse and time travel they can fix what they want but it would make Mass Effect lose choice. With time travel, you just go back in time and the choices the player made no longer matter. With multiverse, player choice is gone cus there's another universe where that choice never occurred. What's Mass Effect without choice.
Awesome summary of everything, really got me thinking on a few things like the Quarian Ark and the geth telescope.
Also appreciated the thoughtful discussion of wormholes / time travel / multiverse stuff. Hopefully on N7 day, the Mass Effect team can give another hint that sheds light on the plot. I'm so dang curious what it's gonna be about.
Agreed about the multiverse, time travel, and other theories being outside of the grounded feeling Mass Effect has mostly maintained. I'm stuck on the idea of the next game setting up a return to Andromeda later on but not going there yet since there's plenty to sort out in the Milky Way. I'd LOVE to see the Mysterious Benefactor become a rival to the Citadel Council in the MW with a kind of "race" between them to fill power vacuums and such after the Reaper War. Hopefully we get at least some teasers to think about in a week!
There's no way that the benefictor would have known About the reapers before shepherd
Amazing as always!
So glad your back with Mass Effect 5 news. You’re the best at this on RUclips.
i have an observation of sorts. The dark patterns on the ground leading up to the crater on the N7 day poster might just mean something.
Well, Liara stated that "She couldn't see herself making a trip out of the Milkyway to Raider." in the recording so she's not going anywhere except staying in the Milkyway for now. and the benefactor theory I think is I think it's one of the rouge factions that's working to keep the alliance and the Cerberus fighting each other. I think the whole crew will return with a huge mystery to solve. And I think it will be about the dying star and the Geth were on that same star, and with the Geth helping the Quarrians and integrating with them might be their solution of survival interesting theory don't you think? Bet no one ever thought about that!
The nexus will be its own mass relay allowing jumps from mily way to Andromeda.
Great Video. Congratulations!
thank you Kala!
It's far more likely that the Milky Way races would advance enough to contact/reach Andromeda than for the Initiative to somehow find a way to go back to the Milky Way.
there is another reason why liara isn't the benefactor if the benefactor really did kill garson or have her killed that is not in liara's character unless Liara had a really good reason to kill her like she wanted to kill the shadow broker for kidnapping feron in mass effect 2. I really do not want time travel or multiverse to be added to mass effect for the most part mass effect is really grounded even though it takes place in space and we had stuff like the reapers. Good video and very detailed on the timeline and theories
I really hope that they don't go with a multiverse theory. That just seems lazy/copout writing. But I know the doors are open with "anomalies" in spacetime. I just don't like it. Mass Effect leans more hard sci-fi and less sci-fi fantasy. I would love to see a well written plot that doesn't rely on cheat code plot devices. And I very much agree with what you were saying on stream about darker themes and maybe even a more Renegade-friendly main quest line. I really hope they scratch the itch in my brain about why there was such urgency to start the Andromeda Initiative BEFORE the events of ME1.
Liara as the shadow broker had the infue, resources and about 600 years to help rebuild the milky way. She also knew about the Andromeda initiative. We've seen structures looking like a non-reaper (human?) Build mass relay.
While developing and rebuilding milky way relays, she could build some to connect to Andromeda.
Arriving there after the events of ME:A, but with the possibly to travel freely and quickly between both galaxies (haven't there been posts about the foreseeable merging of our galaxy with Andromeda?)
Only one that are still alive from the old crew would be her (and Grunt, but he can die in the games).
Shes definitely older in the teaser, wrinkles can't be just a higher res model, she's been too young in the original trilogy.
You forgot about Wrex.
In ME3 he himself said that he is 700 years old
I believe NME will be set in MEA timeline and with Milky Way creating a Mass Relay to be able to travel to Andromeda within a reasonable timeframe( instant? days? weeks or months?). As well ME3 ending will be retconned, to be more akin to MEHEM where Crucible only kills Reapers, disables Mass Relays( repairable) and Shepard survives( albeit still long dead in MEA timeline).
Now there are two scenarios.
A) We have a new protagonist in the Milky Way who'll first do some missions in the Milky Way before being sent to Andromeda, to where they'll help Nexus and Ryder while bridging both galaxies with Mass Relays. The new protagonist will either be able to go between galaxies at any time( instant or days travel), or will be story-locked into each galaxy( weeks or months, time to build Mass Relay in Andromeda) until the epilogue before being able to go between galaxies at any point.
B) Ryder returns as the protagonist and similar story with the new protagonist, except ofcourse you start in Andromeda galaxy.
What motives there would be to do all this, we can only speculate. Jardaan terraforming technology and whoever's Scourge weapon was will play a big role for the motivation. Kett will also likely be the main threat, not only to return with vengeance after their humiliating defeats but also would love to get their hands on Mass Relay technology. Ofcourse biotics appear to be unknown to Andromeda, so plenty of things Kett want out of the Milky Way.
"Ofcourse biotics appear to be unknown to Andromeda, so plenty of things Kett want out of the Milky Way."
What do mean unknown??? Kett and Angara have biotics.
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m no, they are not using biotics. What they're using as an alternative is bio-electricity to a similar effect.
I'm half right, half wrong.
Right - Kett use red biotics.
Wrong - Аngara use electricity
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m no, Kett use bio-electricity. You can see in audio-logs how Kett are fascinated about biotics.
There is also no such thing as red biotics.
You are right in this matter, the Kett in the Helius cluster do not have biotics👍
I’m pretty sure we’re getting a ME:3 Prologue but the main setting will be 2819, when a new advanced Relay is developed. Both of the intercepted transmissions are dated those times. The ME:3 aftermath one about human defiance showing the building of a relay, and Liara gathering 600 years of shadow broker, or even legit resources is more than enough time to develop that Technology.
It could be cool if we are an n7 charged with investigating the fate of the arks after the new relay is finished
One way to merge two timelines is if andromeda wasn't really that far in the future, if benefactor is another civilization or group of civs that managed to escape the reapers to another galaxy, they could simply put things in place to convince them that 600y have past. They were a sleep after all...Why? So they dont go back... if the trip was lets say 10years, certainly someone would get an idea to evacuate entire milky way, so reapers would realise their mistake and went after them and most likely would search neighbouring galaxies too. Perhaps its not great way to merge two timelines but it is the one way...
Totally agree
The developers themselves said that the Reapers are not interested in other Galaxies. That is, the Reapers would not fly to other Galaxies
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m Yes, but in the game universe that is not a fact. Sure they didn't went off to conquer the universe, it would be hard to create any other timeline if they did... it would complicate things. However if they could have went to other places to finish the job in case of someone escaping, that could explain why no other civilization in so many cycles didn't returned to milky way after reapers left. It would make an interesting story if now that reapers are defeated some other civilization or civilizations would return.
This is how the developers created this game universe. And they said that in this game universe the Reapers are not interested in other Galaxies.
(Although of course the developers can make a Retcon).
By the way, why do you think that civilizations did not try to return?
I am 100% sure that for 1 billion dozens of civilizations flew to neighboring Galaxies and then tried to return. And I'm sure they tried to come back.
I also think that neighboring galaxies have tried to invade the Milky Way dozens of times.
Especially from the satellite galaxies of our Milky Way. These are dwarf galaxies. Our Galaxy has 64 of them.
These satellite galaxies are closer to us in distance than Andromeda
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m I find that common sense? I mean if you barely escape someone who is on extermination spree, perhaps they would find it wise not to come back to the place where you know what would happen and also reapers attack at specific time, when civilization didn't develop independent technologies so travel between galaxies takes a long time (unless they actually did came back as benefactor?). Why i think my theory or idea about how things could work is plausible:
Reapers are the machines, they are programed to kill off any advanced civilizations in milky way, if someone else could have came back or came to conquer our galaxy why wouldn't they already do it? i mean so many cycles, surely not every other galaxy is peaceful... clearly they all knew better. Would reapers go other places and deal with treat? That is something that machine would do, find the way to do it otherwise their mission has failed, they do leave 1 reaper behind to observe the galaxy...
If Milky Way defeated reapers and acquired reaper tech, wouldn't they be able to travel to Andromeda faster? I mean 600 years with boost of reaper tech is very long time and huge tech jump. Why when we landed in Andromeda we didn't see colonies already? My theory is just trying to fix 600 years gap between Andromeda and Milky Way in a way that could make some sense, as our hardware is getting better, perhaps some future mass effect (7,8,9?) could be inter galactic setting?
Nice work Kala. Yeah....what a mess :D
Great video!
Honestly, I had giving up on playing mass effect. I just didn't like how ME3 was written, which I won't get to the reasons again. I'm sure you have seen them. But when you mentioned that there might be a remasted legendary edition put out before ME5 you gave me hope that certain changes could be made. I've tried addressing my concerns to both Bioware and EA. No answer. I'm not on Twitter/X because it just to political.So I can't ask questions there.
Thank you again for keeping us up-to-date
I simply don't think Mass Effect 5 and near future timeline ME games can really reconcile Andromeda.
Looking back, Andromeda may not have been a good idea from the start and might weigh down the ME series as a whole.
This was really interesting, thank you. I have to stop watching these late in the evening as my mind was buzzing with thoughts when I went to bed and my dog wasn't impressed with the tossing and turning 😅
Of course they can write it to be anyone but it's so much fun to hear all the ideas. I like the virtual aliens idea.
I think Addisons "face is tired" as she is Garson in disguise, hiding and observing and the body is Addisons 🙃
Going back and re playing andromeda I gotta say I enjoyed it despite the backlash it got.
The issue with this is Why not a 3rd Character doing this. Yes though Question need Answered but why does it have to be Ryder answering them. I really don't think Shepard would be the one either. This is why the New player Character would be hunting down clues. AS for putting both Galaxies in 1 Game it's easy just make a Better Starfield 1 that is focus on Story but as many Planets to explore and find out stuff on involving these. Yes if Starfield as 1 Thousand Planets or more it would be easy to stay focus and build what is needed.
You know, I think it would be pretty cool, although I have no idea how it'd work - is if the main storyline element is to find some way to *safely* merge the two galaxies. I mean, it isn't due for another couple of billion years, but it's also not going to be pretty for anyone in the vicinity I imagine. Potential of colliding stars, erratic orbits and if Andromeda also has a supermassive black hole at it's center like the Milky Way does with Sagittarius A*, who knows what sort of calamity those two are capable of if they meet and interfere with each other.
I think the idea of Ryder going back in time is exceedingly unlikely. First is that it's unnecessary, there is no real reason to dust off Ryder's character in order to do anything of the sort. If Ryder is involved, it could be when he or she is in the Systems Alliance (in the case of Scott iirc) or in the research group (Sarah?) It could serve as a prequel story of them. I think the other reason Ryder won't be necessarily involved is because ultimately I don't think the character was very popular.
In the poster released after N7 day, the clad figure from the teaser trailer has what looks like an afterlife club located centrally and what looks suspiciously like Garrus in his Archangel like armour. This makes me think that Mass Effect 5 may be set not too long after the end of the Reaper War.
If you hear the trailer you can hear Here it's saying Namalies all across space
omg i actually bought the citadel poster !! Its so pretty!
the only person that i could think of being the benefactor would be some matriarch, peraphs the asari conselour? idk, i feel like if ME5 ever gets released we will play one half in the milky way, the other in andromeda, something like tlou2, not that dark but equally controversial 😂
I would love it if it turned out that the Benefactor was actually the Geth. After all, they were preparing to upload themselves into a construct on Ranoch, which easily could have been protected and hidden from the Reapers after finalization. They respect life, and it would make so much sense that they would, as an "unknown benefactor", do what they can to encourage advanced life in the galaxy to continue.
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As for the time travel idea, I believe I've mentioned this idea on one of your videos before, but I can see it working in an entirely different way... Basically, that time travel has already happened. The idea being that along with looking for the Reapers, the Geth discovered some sort of temporal anomaly that they were studying, looking back into the Milky Way's past (universe expansion and all that), not actually Andromeda. The Arks and Nexus passing through said anomaly, sending them into our galaxy's past as well. Then a Cerberus sleeper agent discovers this while also discovering a way for Cerberus in the future to go into the past (after all, there will be remnants of Cerberus after the death of TIM, just as there is still Al Queda even though we took out Bin Laden), and he leaves protected information (possibly carved into something) buried in a location he knows Cerberus was eventually planning on building a base. He also leaves information on the Scourge.
Liara and the Geth discovering this being what they are talking about in one of the reveals (or whatever it's being called), and she helps Shep put the gang back together (along with some new crew) to stop them. Of course, some shenanigans happen as Cerberus's first test, instead of pulling the sleeper agent back to the present, pulls Ryder and team (who were there to stop the agent though not quite knowing his full plan). The teams together, they now have to stop Cerberus from completing their plans to use modified Primary Mass Relays to draw the Scourge into the present to use as a weapon against the Milky Way which is still recovering from the Reaper War. But of course, we still have to stop internal struggles in each culture throughout this as well.
We could see that the benefactor actually knew all about this from the beginning and was the real money behind Cerberus. As well as connect the "classified project" related to Armistan Banes related to either this or the Initiative Project.
Wow a vid I agree with in essence - I don’t think a multiverse or time travel are good ideas at all for the next instalment - I think it should be set close to the trilogy and deal with the fall out of it whilst introducing the next big bad slowly - loads left to explore in the milky way with shep and others imo - the more crazy the plot lines such as multiverses etc, the less mature it’ll be and I think it needs to get back to the vibe of the og trilogy - the can give Easter Eggs and small nuggets in regards to andromeda but the game should be focused imo and that focus should be on what made the trilogy successful
Time travel and multiverse theories which I've also seen, just seem like such a cop-out way to get Shepard and previous squadmates into the new game. I'd much rather see something along the lines of the first part of the game (or series?) be about prep for a new ark to go to Andromeda (for reasons, maybe political turmoil is too much, maybe Cerberus is still active and aggressive, etc), and then part 2 we arrive (with Liara maybe) in the midst of a ramped up Initiative vs Kett war
Codex ME1 states that modern races have explored only 1% of the Milky Way out of 100%. That is, 99% of the Galaxy has not been explored. No one will be eager to fly somewhere when 99% of the Galaxy is accessible nearby.
And by the way, after a devastating war, when it is necessary to restore cities, stations... No one will waste resources and time on building Arks.
And besides, here's Liara... She fought alongside Shepard against the Reapers... And in your opinion, she will give up what she fought for and fly away?
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m1) I'm not a professional writer. I'm sure those who are could fill in the blanks there, or come up with something better. 2) That's not the point I was making. My point is that I want to see something new, something different. Time travel/multiverse have been done in so much recent media, and it's being treated by the ME fanbase as basically a magic "get Shepard and the crew back" button, at least in discussions that I've seen
So there is something new in the unexplored 99% of the Milky Way. Thousands of new races, new worlds, new characters...
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m none of which ties to Andromeda, which is the direction they're apparently trying to take it
By the way, my native language is not English, and if anything is unclear, I apologize in advance)
I agree that we will visit Andromeda.
But!
It is necessary to take into account factors:
1. They said that for Next Mass Effect they are working on the old familiar battle maps of the trilogy;
2. Most players don't like Andromeda. And if Bioware(EA) do not want to lose money, then the Milky Way trilogy will not be abandoned. Let me remind you that after the failure of Andromeda, the Mass Effect franchise was officially frozen, even the Andromeda DLC was cancelled. And it would be foolish for the Bioware to abandon the trilogy entirely and return to Andromeda;
3. But there is an easy way to satisfy both Andromeda fans and trilogy fans. Link both galaxies. That is, the player will be able to move from Galaxy to Galaxy and back
Who in Mass Effect 3, knows the timing and nature of the Reaper threat and likes to communicate in shifting visual personalities. The Leviathan race.
So if they "backed up MW Apex races this time, why not in the past?" Are Jardaan and enemy both transplanted MW races? I believe most of the Jardaan Scourge dates are back calculated from the current date in Andromedia.. A date I question.
Could you make a video on how long the invasion lasted in ME3? What did it look like in terms of time, how many days, weeks? While playing the game, you may get the impression that everything is happening quite quickly (the situation requires it). But how long does it really take from leaving Earth to the final push? I hope that the topic will interest more viewers and my comment will not go unnoticed.🧐🤔
We can roughly calculate.
There is such an official text Cerberus Daily News.
The developers posted text news about various aspects of life in the ME universe: culture, science, etc.
They published this news from 2010 to 2012.
And there are dates when what happened in the ME universe.
So, the Reapers' invasion of the Milky Way began with an attack on Batarian territory. It was mid-September 2186. At the end of September 2186, the Reapers invaded Alliance territory.
And since we know that the Reapers were destroyed in 2186, that means the war ended before the New Year.
That is, the Reaper Harvest lasted from mid-September 2186 to New Year's Day 2187
Thanks, this timeline puts things into perspective. Whatever they do I hope they minimize creating new plot threads but instead connect existing ones. This timeline does not rule out my belief Aria is the benefactor given her age and resources and her likely knowledge of the Reapers because she's known of the secret of the artifact on Thessia. She planned to be on the Asari Ark but couldn't get to some rendezvous on Omega because Cerberus took over Omega. With that, I'm fine with the next game being about connecting the dots than about something new. That can come later.
Eeeee.... O_o
It’s very strange that you perceive Omega as a railway station, and the Ark as a railway train.
And it’s very strange that you think that Aria was going to abandon her brainchild Omega. As she said more than once: “I am Omega.”
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m leaving is better than dying. Omega is not a railway. The ride she needed has an IFF. Otherwise any ride would do.
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m btw, her Ark is not at Omega.
20 bucks they put Shepard "soul" in a synthetic body.
Could Bioware creating 3 games setup that tie everything together?
I don't think we'll hear much about Andromeda in the next game. Liara will probably talk about her connection to Papa Ryder, and learning of the Initiative through the Shadow Broker's files. If it does take place centuries after ME3 like some people surmise, Liara will probably have a line about "They must be just about there/They are probably just setting up, exploring beautiful new worlds and definitely not dying from scary space clouds or an over-bearing race of assimilation obsessed fascists."
I know I left a rather lenghty comment on one of your earlier videos but I think that time travel could work in Mass Effect but with incredibly dangerous consequences that could doom the universe. Besides if we have people like Henry Lawson who quite literally wanted to build the perfect daughter/legacy, you bet there was a dumbass with more money than sense who wanted time travel to be a thing either for profit or to make himself the ruler of the galaxy and by doing that doomed the rest of us by unleashing some kind of threat.
Nice video Kala you are a true inspiration to us. Regarding the Quarrian arc l have a theory about them being involved in a scourge disaster the opened up a wormhole that connected the two galaxies hence the connection with the Milky Way. The dying star would be the point of entry back to the milky way.
My headcannon is that the Jardaan created the AI that created the Remnant to help them teraform Andromeda (they are not native to the galaxy) but were interrupted by the Kett. When they didn't return to continue the work, The Remnant (or Jardaan AI) made the Angaara. I think the Jordaan could return to Hellius after no contact from their "exploration team"....maybe with a straggling Quarian Ark in tow...
Many thanks for your video. I played and replayed all the Mass Effect series and I can wait to see how they will do it.
For the benefactor, I always told myself that it was a group of Asari matriarchs who had led this project in the shadows for hundreds of years. They had full knowledge of the arrival of the Reapers, they were sufficiently technically advanced thanks to the protean beacon technologies and in addition they have a sufficiently long life expectancy to embark on this type of project. Moreover, in the first episode of the game, Liara explains to Sheppard that the Asaris have always wanted to protect other species, so I can see a secret group of Asaris working in the shadow on this vast project of preserving the species of the Milky Way.
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I would like to explore Meridian, like actually leave the ship that crashed on Meridian and explore the rest of Meridian.. Like when I first played and beat Andromeda, I was so mad that I stopped playing it for a while and then I replayed it after I played the remastered Mass Effect Trilogy
Oh and what would really be cool is if we could maybe build our own ship.. I doubt that will happen but that would be cool since there isn't a game for PS5 like Starfield...
You can. As soon as your NOMAD is dropped on Meridian turnaround. You can find RUclipss on how to do that.
@@0x8badbeef wouldn't that mean replaying the game again, just to get to that point?
@@airheadmac3368 kind of. Reload the Save before that drop.
Time travel or multiverse would seem like a cop out and, as you say, an act of desperation to link the two timelines. It could be interesting if they look at a split of the story, like Kojima did in MGS2 with the first part revolving around Shepard (as a kind of fan service) before continuing on to the Andromeda Initiative either in a prequel sense or as a direct continuation. It's a stretch, but it's a theory. The only thing I really hope is that they down end up saying that the Jaardan is just the Andromeda name for the reapers or something similar...
The developers themselves said that the Reapers are not interested in other Galaxies. The Reapers are only interested in the Milky Way
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m Phew... Then it's all hype and no fret for N7 day 😂
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Garson wearing black with red stripes!!!!!! at 2:21 2:36 an Asarir wear black and red stripes?? could they be n7 as well??
Doesn't make sense how did the benefit know About the reapers
I'm honestly hoping that they ignore andromeda all together and move on from Shepards story. I have some mixed feelings about the ending of the trilogy but it was wrapped up well enough to move on to something new. Theres still alot of the milky way galaxy that is undiscovered and many new races to learn about.
You can't make a Mass Effect game without Commander Shepard, let alone the Normandy crew. In all honesty, Mass Effect should just be left alone
@@Megatron_95 I disagree it's an entire universe that has a wealth of lore that hasn't truly been tapped.
@@Megatron_95 Then there wouldn't have been a universe beforehand.
@@Megatron_95moron😅
The benefactor is so obviously Blasto. Earning trillions from the galaxy's most popular film franchise, yet clearly saving money with terrible effects, warning a 5007.396% profit from 3ach film, sending out his best agent, Conrad Verner to gather information. Connect the dots people, jeez 🙄
Th could release a dlc for Andromeda but they won't. I wanted more for that game
Thank you for this video, MEGA !!! Greetz from Germany ^^
what if the benefactor are The Geth 😬
Not Geth. The Legion said that Shepard and his crew were the first organics the Geth had peaceful contact with. The Benefactor began sponsoring the Initiative before the events of ME1
I prefer them just make a 4th game that is actually going to good and push the Mass Effect story properly forward.
4 andromeda is a spinoff
I can’t help but wonder why nobody ever brings up the Citadel. In ME1, Vigil described it as “actually a massive Mass Relay than connects to dark space”. I feel like given enough time and resources (and the knowledge that that’s actually a thing) some quarian or Salarian or Asari or..SOMEBODY could figure out a way to turn it into a Super Mass Relay that can connect to the Andromeda Galaxy.
Because it's broken and it's currently stuck in Earth's orbit.
@Davanthall The problem is that the Citadel is a Relay. And Relays connect to other Relays. The ship is sent from one Relay to another Relay.
That is, in order to go through the Citadel to Andromeda, a giant Relay must be built in Andromeda
@@user-wr7mb3ic7mmaybe one already has been built, which is where the Jardaan came into play as a strain of the Prothean Empire. It just simply hasn’t been discovered and switched on until Ryder discovers it. I just don’t see the benefit of putting Ryder back in the Milky Way though.
@@russellpuff1996 And who built it and connected it to the Relay in the Milky Way?
Not the Reapers. The developers themselves said that the Reapers were not interested in other Galaxies and the Reapers did not fly to other Galaxies
I dunno kind of sounds like the benefactor is an AI
I think it would be cool to have both Shepard and Ryder meet up. Like having two separate stories in one game and then meeting up to save the galaxies together.. no idea how they would do it, but it would just be cool.
Yes, it was interesting, Shepard is the protagonist and he has two Ryders as his partners👍👍👍
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m Yeah! Exactly and maybe we can still have a few other members too.. like having a team of 4... OH! Wait they already leaked having a team of 4! 😅
Original, Andromeda I don’t care, I love it all!! Just give me more Mass Effect. I’m impatiently waiting for the next game!
What if the Benefactor is another Asari? A "new" character? Remember in ME3, you learn that the asari have more prothean tech & knowledge than they'd already shared with the rest of the galaxy. What if a select few of the asari ruling body only knows about this prothean tech & knowledge & that includes theories on time travel that the asari then had centuries to figure out how to make work?
& Liara found out about because of being the Shadow Broker?
Just an intriguing thought I had.
Addendum: Also noticed how similar Remnant architecture, asari architecture, & prothean architecture are all really similar. Coincidence?
Addendum2: What if Cerberus made more than 1 clone of Shepard & put them in cryo? Or Shepard's personality & history was imported into an AI? Liara does ask Shepard in their cabin about giving a statement or something in ME3, for posterity & all that. & there's already a Shepard VI too in ME2.
"What if Cerberus made more than 1 clone of Shepard & put them in cryo?"
And what will this give? Clones do not have the memories of the originals. The clone himself told Shepard about this in the Citadel DLC.
the benefactor is Kaylee Sanders because Anderson told her about the Reapers and she met the Reapers through Paul Grayson in the book
Where does she get such gigantic resources, money and influence?
And why was Jien Garson killed?
Whatever happens, I just hope SAM is not a major character, and if it is, please change the voice.
Not interested in Andromeda let's go back to the Milky way
My theories on how BioWare will deal with the trilogy's different possible endgames.
If the Reapers are still alive: they are gone back in Dark Space, never to be seen again. Their mission is over, so maybe they learn fishing or something.
If the Migrant Fleet was destroyed: the Quarians from the Quarian Ark will be considered the lone survivors. I suspect no Quarian from the Milky Way will be in the next game.
If the Geth were destroyed: the next game will focus on a group of Geth too far away from the Milky Way to have been affected by the events of ME3. Maybe it will be a dissident group who didn't ally with the Reapers. Maybe they had Quarians allies.
Shepard is dead. The timeline is late enough in the future to make sure of that.
If the Synthesis ending was chosen: it is mentioned but affects surprisingly little. Let's not forget that Shepard had cybernetics implants for the last two games, and it only became a factor at the very end.
It's not about ignoring the player's choices, it's about finding ways to move on from them and get everyone on a similar page. Most of these theories seem easy enough to implement because they can be quickly explained with short dialogues and codex entries, and if the franchise wants to move away from AI as a topic, none of those decisions will affect the next game(s). I think it's doable.
Can you please make this timeline downloadable as a jpeg or as png somewhere it would be appreciated. If Bioware has any sense they would answer the big questions from Andromeda like the Benefactor and the Quarian Ark etc as a DLC plus setting up and getting people hyped for the new game. So they can start the new game with a clean slate so to speak with all the big questions answered. Plus it would be nice to see a Andromeda that has received the news of what has transpired in the Milky Way even if it was 600 years ago as far as they are concerned everyone is dead civilisation is gone
The resolution of this video goes up to 1440p. Make full screen the frame with the timeline. Press Win-Shift-S. Rectangle the timeline. Fire up Windows Paint and paste. Windows Paint will let you save it as jpeg or png.
@@0x8badbeef found it on X thank you anyway
In my opinion they should just pick an ending. At least from the trailers it looks like destroy is canon. You can deal with the fallout of that and the power vacuum. Seems to me that they will be trying to establish contact with Andromeda Galaxy. Keep all this in a sequel setting instead of prequel. Bring in the ark, benefactor and all that in story or just set up the duo games after ME5. I THINK Mass Effect is big enough for two main characters the Ryder twin or twins and the new character. Plus they have to deal with the mother being in Andromeda too. I just think they can connect the galaxies with the obvious thing being establishing contact and or with the concept arc of the multiple races in masks showing that the milky way is unlivable so they need a new home. Bringing in Andromeda that way as well.
Codex ME1 states that modern races have explored only 1% of the Milky Way out of 100%. The battles with the Reapers took place in this 1% of the Galaxy. 99% of the Milky Way is not destroyed
It's such a tricky situation. I can understand everyone who says to leave the trilogy and Andromeda separated. However, there's so much unresolved stuff in Andromeda that it would be a shame if they just abandoned it...
Jardaan are not similar to Protheans. They are rather anti-Reapers. They created organic life, and the Reapers exterminated it. In addition, the Jardaan were not at war with an unknown alien race, but with each other. Remember the entry from the game - “The Opposition’s weapon may cause widespread damage.” The opposition, not the enemy. That is, a fraction with a different view of things.
Technically there's only one timeline. I think Milky Way characters are going to ho to Andromeda and everyone will be there.
I hope Ryder remains the protagonist since I feel that they still have a lot of potential (the main problem being the game was rushed)
Please no time travel or multiverse
The Benefactor (AI) is a just a tool of the Kett creators. We still have not seen the Reaper equivalent in the Andromeda. The milky way races were lured to Andromeda by the creators of the Remnant / Kett in an attempt to repopulate the galaxy with an evolved biological species of their design. AI won the war against biologics in Andromeda. The Kett are the biological version of the Geth. AI has become the creator of biological life in Andromeda. The reverse of Milky Way where biologics create artificial life (reapers, geth, AI) (That popping sound was your mind exploding)
There is actually no evidence to support this; Besides, if that was the case, why tell Alec about the threat of the Reapers just to lure the various races into a trap that ultimately failed? Why even take control of the Initiative not long before the events of Mass Effect 3? That doesn't make any sense.
@@dragonbornexpress5650 Andromeda AI needs a reason to make species leave their galaxy. They need big reasons like, exploration, persecution, resource depletion or a threat for example. Reapers where an coincidental extinction threat. Alex was a minor tool to help get the animals onto the Ark. who is to say the Milky Way is the only galaxy they targeted?
Did the trap fail? the Archon was a bit player, just like Saren.
The Reapers were created by AI Catalyst
@@user-wr7mb3ic7m The Leviathan species created the AI for the Reapers, so presumably they are the origin for much of the knowledge for the catalyst AI, relays and citadel. It's doubtful that has anything to do with the Alpha species in Andromeda.
Time travel shouldn't be a thing in the Mass Effect lore. The next game should take place in 600 years after ME3. There's no reason for it to continue after the Reapers. It would be likely that either Andromeda initiative came up with a mass relay that could send them back to the milyway galaxy or vice versa.
I loved Andromeda despite it's flaws. So much potential. It was a great first step in a trilogy, but the reception was sooo very toxic and EA doesn't care about art. I'm just waiting for a thawed momsicle.
The team at BioWare definitely has lots of options. I really hope that they don't try anything with time travel or multiverse stuff. In my opinion too many franchises go down that route as a way to resurrect fan favorite characters or as a lazy fix for plot holes they created. Focus on creating a great story that is grounded in the Mass Effect universe. I would love some answers and some connections but not everything has to be solved with this game. They just need to prioritize story, characters and quality game play. Also, please keep politics, ideology and ridiculous nonsense out of the game. I have no interest in your real world views on anything. I want to get immersed in an amazing story and universe. Keep your bias to yourself.
I will be genuinely disappointed if we don't get something significant from Andromeda.
I don't care what they do as long as they don't bring Shepard back. I know a lot of people want that but really that would be stupid.
Hear me out your theories all have merit, but you have me thinking, what if somehow the speacies the jaardaan were at war with were a milky way speacies that ran from the reapers to the andromenda galaxy as a last dicth effort, and so somehow 1 side won and somehow got destroyed by the kett or maybe the scourge is natural and killed them, or both sides lost and the scourge is remnants of a space wmd. Also the cycle the reapers were attending to were to wait untill a cycle where organics and synthetics would co-exist, so that synthetics can discover the way to counteract the natural effect that causes scourge that kills plantes.