Why Are Legator Guitars Hated?
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- In this video, we take a dive into the history of Legator guitars, and why they're commonly disliked in the guitar community.
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I’ve played a Legator at a guitar center, and oh lord, it was my favorite experience on an 8 string. I loved how light and small the overall guitar was, and all the features it had. Only gripe I had with it was the finish, it was the white and blue N8FOD, but I love the new Jupiter finish
Are you in Atlanta? I literally did this EXACT same thing with a white and blue 8 string legator like 2 or 3 weeks ago at a GC.
It was the first time I truly understood why people buy expensive guitars. Literally the best feeling extended range guitar I've ever played on!
@@alesanapoodle7529 I was in NYC at the time lol. Like you said, I really see why people buy these things, they’re just too hard to put down once you pick it up
@@alesanapoodle7529 I've played the one in ATL. Same experience. First time playing an 8 and loved it
@@alesanapoodle7529they are actually better priced than most extended range guitars as well!
@@dewit1055 brother, did it happen to be at Union Square? If so, that same guitar is still there, just saw it last week lol. Being sold with a huge discount (800 $), chips all over the body. Totally agree with it being ultra light and comfortable, but man, that finish... I'd grab it on the spot despite it being all banged up, if not for that disgusting color scheme.
It gladdens the heart of this 60-year-old metalhead to know the future of guitar-related RUclips videos is safe in the hands of guys like this. I subscribed after KDH pointed us in your direction and appreciate your down-to-earth honest and informative content. And boy, your playing is awesome, and dare I say seems to be improving over time. You deserve many more subscribers and I'm happy to advertise your channel to my like-minded friends. Keep the faith young man 🤘😎🤘
Always wanted to do my part in keeping the instrument and the guitar RUclips scene alive! Thanks for watching, I promise not to disappoint in the future 😎
@@sixstringtv1 Same Here! KDH pointed me here! Love your stuff. Also: Yngwie's "I'll see the light.." is played with pull-offs. *hides*
In general the guitar world is doing quite well. I think we've finally exited the 2000's guitar lul and entered a new golden age. And it's not just rock or metal, I've noticed it in the country and bluegrass scene too. These young cats are really talented
I misread that as "60 year old meth-head".
Regardless of how you pronounce it, that's a bad name. It sounds like the name of a villain from a children's cartoon show.
Absolutely. A cyborg henchman with massive robotic legs whose special move is rapid-fire stomping to break through the ceiling of the heroes' base or create earthquakes. His action figure would have spring loaded stomping action operated with a lever jutting out of his back.
@@PikkaBird😂
Which is why it's awesome you kidding me. Any villainous name would sound fckn rad.
Nothing is more terrible than Mayonaise guitars.
To me it feels like a badass aligator alegator lmao
Been playing a 7 string multiscale from them for the past year, by far one of the best guitars I’ve played for the 700-800$ price range. Haven’t encountered any quality control issues with it
I can relate to your comment. I have this Legator Ninja model and I've never had any problems at all in any feature or anything else. I use it all the time and always stays in tune.
Man. You have a very unique channel here. You're doing your own thing. I like that. It's entertaining and informative. Thank you man.
I had never heard of the brand name, but I’ve seen Berried Alive play with these guitars and I always thought they looked and sounded awesome, at least in his hands
Ngl that man can make anything sound good, but they're also full custom models.
@@pota7opotato573 and ALOT of post sound editing lmao
I actually dig the shape of the white guitar because it reminds me of skervesen, perhaps without that reference point in my mind it wouldn't be.
Same, and the headless is just a regular headless, not uglier than any other headless
You quickly became one of my favorite channels please keep up the good work. Quality videos, interesting topics, and good jokes.
I will! Thanks 😎
I found a used 7 string Legator at Sam Ash a couple years ago and bought it. Once I got it set up it was perfect. I swapped out the FR 1000 for an Original Floyd Rose and tossed in some SD Sentient/Nazgul pickups and the thing just rips. Plays like a dream. Neck is so smooth.
I actually do like the body shape of the white one. It's super funky imo. But I'm a bassist so maybe that has an effect on my taste in Instruments, lol
I have had my CC-7 since the release, hands down the best guitar I have ever played! Beats Keisel and Strandberg, but that's just my opinion🤷♂️
I have owned a boat load of Legators. The only time I had any issues with QC it was in 2017/2018 when they switched to Indonesia away from Korea to make their guitars. It seems like MAJORITY of the QC issues come from that time.
Yeah, we picked up a b-stock around then and it had some weird cosmetic stuff, small bit of finish bleed and the like, but even then, I still play it now. It’s a decent guitar 🤷🏻♀️
@@lmaowat6358thats what b stock means u imbecile😅
Bruh, what happened at 13:42 is that a broke string?
Edit: I'm stupid cuz I like to comment before finishing the video ...
Speaking from personal experience, I had the option between two guitars at the SAME PRICE POINT. I had the choice between a Legator Ghost 8 and an LTD JR608. The build quality of the LTD was VASTLY superior to that of the Legator at the same price point. I know people say this a lot, but it feels cheaper than it. It felt like I was playing a $400-500 guitar despite the $1000 price tag. I of course chose the LTD over the Legator.
I don't like LTD personally, but even I wod choose that one after that disaster of a headless guitar
JR608 huh, I see you're a man of culture,too.
Bruh that ltd is like 2k not 1k
their QC is shit; ordered a GF8OD when they released and it came riddled with issues. the guy in customer service was super rude through the whole thing too. Legator sucks and ill never look at them again.
I bought a Legator Ninja model from Reverb about 2 years ago.. aside from loading some Seymour Duncan's in it..It plays great!! The neck is nice and thin and has super low action, built to shred and I love it!!
You playing enemy inside made me wanna buy a 7 string, man that sounds great
Always wanted a 7 string to play that riff properly
Some of my 2 cents, some small notes to the video, some about Legator; I've been following Legator since they started a long while back in 2012, and have had many interactions with their employees and owner, Kennon Yi.
1. It is, in fact, pronounced Lih-GEY-tor; it means one who leaves behind a legacy.
2. They are definitely oddly aesthetically not great most of the time. Some are pretty, a lot are ugly.
3. Most of my issues lie in the company and their employees. The products themselves can be okay - even a broken clock is right twice a day - but the people behind the brand are, by and large, not good people. Kennon Yi has sent my friends threats of violence for posting negative reviews of their experience and has made anti-Semitic remarks to another friend in conversation at NAMM. Legator has, on several occasions, blamed customers for damage that has been apparent out of the box, including chipped wood, chipped plastic on pickups, and flat out quality control issues - like your slanted pickup. The employees themselves have been miserable to converse with, and would sometimes even be hostile towards people of other companies at NAMM.
4. More of a critique, I wish your sound comparison between the 2 guitars used the same riffs cut closer together (Riff 1 Guitar A Riff 1 Guitar B, Riff 2 Guitar A Riff 2 Guitar B, so on). Sick playing, though, and goodness, that headless sounds... almost hollow.
5. In my personal experience, the artist signature lines seem to actually be of consistently higher quality in many aspects than the non-signatures. Unfortunately for Legator, they are down to 2 signature artists (both of him are wildly controversial in the guitar scene, funny enough)
6. That air bag test is brilliant, and I'm genuinely shocked these passed lol.
7. The Floyd Rose 1000 is the same spec and materials as the OFR made in Germany - it's just mass made in Korea and sold as an OEM, so I don't really know why you dislike it. It just saves costs and keeps guitar costs down.
Lol I love that Fuzz universe riff there at 10:30
Thanks I was trying to figure out the song
Subbed at the visual segment, when you basically covered my entire intended comment. Ugly, bumpy, pointy shapes.
Thanks for the sub 😎
False advertising! Title of channel is sixstringtv yet he playing a seven!!!! How dare he?! JK great video man!
2nd channel SevenStringRadio
Hey 6 just an update. I've been playing 31 years. And that whole time I have been repairing my own instruments, so things like level and crowns, or refrets, refinishes, all these things aren't really that big a deal. But they are kinda a big deal to do, very time consuming, hard on the neck. And I sat with my GP for a week or so going, "This thing needs a level and crown, and the nut isn't cut deep enough, the locking nut already needs new hardware, the pickups are trash, the neck is uncomfortable near the headstock, etc." and then i picked up my Charvel San Dimas pro mod, and despite costing a couple hundred less than the legator, what a guitar. It has none of those problems, and isn't suffering from the same issues. it's made in mexico ... so I said to myself ... screw this. I may be a great guitar tech, but for the price this guitar is ... I shouldn't have to do crap. So I took the friggin thing back yesterday. Even the guys at GC agreed that it was a terrible instrument. So much so that even they are sending it back. Their tech is going to have to do too much work to it to make it sellable.
Dude like WHAT are you talking about? How is this to do with Legator?
@@neoconnor4395 It simply had too many problems for like an $1100 guitar. and just because something is headless doesn't mean it's made well or worth the price. A mexican made charvel is a better buy any day than this model of Legator
It seems like Legator really improved after Berried Alive and Rings of Saturn boosted their popularity. I really like that because, in the end, having more quality brands to choose from benefits the consumer. I remember the quality being horrid for the price when they first came out, but were able to keep sales due to how pretty they looked. Maybe some day I'll get one for myself
I don't recommend it unless youre going high end, but if you have a chance to try a few first then go for it
@@sixstringtv1 Oh hey thanks for the response! I just discovered this video yesterday and I've been binging your videos since then
6:57 I mean I thought it was cool :(
Great video! Not even interested in buying an electric guitar and was highly entertained! Format, content, process, info, etc we’re all on point
Glad you liked it! 😎😎
7:47
I disagree 100%
they look great
yall gotta listen to Berried Alive if you haven't. Charles Caswell's band.
Sick guitar solos
Marshall and 7 string is such an underrated combination :)
Facts. I don't know why more people don't do that
True.
@@sixstringtv1 Probably because many players don't see Marshall as a modern metal amp brand in contrast to Mesa Boogie and Orange, despite all of them having similar offerings. The JCM800/900 can do great high gain tones, especially when paired with a drive pedal.
I like the Charles Caswell Signature's shape...
I've always been a classic guitar guy (Mainly fender), so I've never really looked into their guitars, still, you seem to be able to make even the most boring topics interesting :)
I mean... me too. I'm a vintage Strat guy, but that 7 string impressed me. And I'm glad you liked the video! 😁😎
Legator sounds like a Power Rangers Villan.
Can't give them credit for the name that's true
"You can't tell me this shape looks good"
My guy, I own a Gibson Corvus, I've seen worse. That Legator looks like a Warwick bass body with a 7-string neck, so it has something going for it.
Gibson Corvus goes full circle. So ugly that it's actually kinda cool again
@@sixstringtv1 based Corvus enjoyer 🤝
I think the younger gen metal guitarist will be just fine. 👍
Metal is in good hands!
I love this channel. But there is one thing i really dislike. I dont like how long he plays when hes trying to show off a guitar. He plays for way too long. Thats all tho. Still love his channel
There's always the option to fast forward.
@@sixstringtv1 yeah thats what i end up doing anyway. Always good playing though
I have the same opinion about Legator as Kiesel and other "boutique and bespoke" companies: what's their excuse?
It's funny when people try to offload them at like 90% of new value. Imo any plain spec Kiesel should not go above $1200 used.
The Nazgul isn't active, you can just get it in active mount.
I've been made aware, I assumed it was active because of the battery but that's literally just for the LED
I think that’s the biggest issue with legator. The quality drop off from their low end guitars to their high end guitars. The new ghosts and ninjas are great. Those low end GTs are pretty bad.
Do GOC next if you haven’t. I have a satya and it’s probably the best guitar I’ve ever owned
I stand this, GOC is amazing
@Ophidian Aspect they are absolutely amazing. I own two now
@@christophermcclelland1556 I own the Purple PME E class Materia. Looking to get the Vajra if they make it with a burl top. #gocgang
Dude that blue one costs the same as my charvel DK22 wtf. The difference in quality is quite staggering. Also I totally agree with you. The strat shape is perfect and I wanted something that looks like a strat but stays stable and has better upper fret access.
Honestly my NX8 is probably the best guitar I have ever played. I opened the box it was in TUNE, I could see my reflections in the damn frets, and the neck and construction is like playing a neck through Ibanez. The luminlays, smoothness of all the mechanical parts its just 🤌 its honestly so good I just stare at it at points because I truthfully don’t feel good enough to play it. The case it came in was very nice as well, I love the neck rest in the softshell case just a nice taste, and delivery wasn’t a pain in the cock like ESP. I’ve played Ibanez, GOC’s, Fenders, Gretches, LTD’sc and Jackson and I felt like this with all the features and care made it worth every penny. My only complaint, for ALL high end models go with stainless steels, its the only way to compete with brands like Benton.
Their design is amazing. To bad the only shop to check them out is hours away in Germany, the legator n6fp purple fade looks so sick.
I've played one $300 Legator once and it played extremely well.
The door broke off on my 9v compartment in the first couple months of owning my Ninja. I contacted Legator to order a replacement, they said they were out of stock and they never responded after that. I recently found what battery compartment they use and ordered it. Perfect match replacement. They use the Kaish brand 9v compartments sold on Amazon for $9. No wonder the plastic door hinge broke. They use the cheapest option available.
When I first heard of legator I was told they had a low quality standard. Actually I never liked those guitars for a couple of years until they started developing new models inciuding headless guitars.
So, two years ago I had the opportunity to try a headless 7 string from them and I was blown away. And finally one year later I was able to afford one and bought the Ghost Anniversary G7A and after a good adjustment I fall in love with it.
It’s a pretty amazing and high quality guitar, it’s the most comfortable guitar I own, I don’t want to sell it ever, it’s just amazing.
Cant F with Legator 8 string Ninja's. Undeniable y comfortable neck and smooth fretboard. Very much a shred guitar. Id just switch out the pickups. Great guitar for under $1k USD.
What 7 string do you recommend to me? Seriously I have a budget below 1500€ and the thing is Im not sure what to get, I like more natural looking stuff, that doesn't look to spiky and ridiculous but also a 7 string with modern features suited for metal, Im kinda unsure about trems cause Im not used to them and like to first experiment with tunings, my local store doesn't have 7 strings at all so yeah
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I would just call them "legato"+"r". You know the italian way.
That somehow sounds even dumber
@@sixstringtv1 the brand probably intended it to rhyme with alligator though
Nothing wrong with Floyd Rose 1000 Series in my opinion. Same as the German stuff, just made in South Korea. It's the Floyd Rose Specials that are awful.
Had me subbed within the first 15 seconds. Love your personality!
Thanks! 😎😎
I’ve owned 6 different legator models - mostly mid range 7 string models and one high end model, but most of the guitars are pretty good, and are definitely good lookin (except for caswells model) I’ve never played the headless models but I do enjoy their guitars- this was a great video dude and I love your FFAA shirt your playing is sick too!
I've have a few le-gators. One of them is an amazing guitar, but it's from the custom shop.
I once ordered a legator and when they sent me the wrong guitar, they tried to blame me for giving the the wrong order number (I did not)
I never understood this type of thing. Back in the 80's many of my Metal guitar playing contemporaries hated say Telecasters or Strats. I get they are not truly Metal guitars but the vitriol made no sense.
If I play a guitar and I jive with it then it is a good guitar. I am not a PRS guy but I have played them when they were first introduced in about 85 and I didn't dig em. I am a Gibson guy so they should have thrilled me but it just didn't happen. The other guitar player in one of my bands had several from the earliest production years and he swore by them.
So what does it all mean? Not a dn thing. Play what you like and don't hate. It is pointless and only points back at you.
They're ok guitars. That's about it. Nothing spectacular, but nothing horrible.
I recently got my first Legator, I was actually aware of some of the hate and that Louis Torres situation. I'd traded a Ibanez Prestige for it, which some people would consider a bit crazy. But I was pleasantly surprised to find the Legator model I went for is the best feeling 7 string I've ever played.
I got an Opus OT7T which isn't such a common Legator model, even the specs are different to their usual stuff:Telecaster-esque shape, Gotoh vintage trem, Guitarmory pickups (which I looked up and are apparently quite fancy boutique pickups, but the company owner seems to also have had some bad rep funnily enough!).
Anyways, I actually found the neck on the OT7T to be incredibly comfortable. It's described as ultra-slim and as I like slim necks it's great. My first 27" 7 string, I was wondering if I'd find that trickier but with the guitar feeling so comfortable I don't mind. The neck looks very similar to the one on that Charles Caswell model (roasted maple neck & fingerboard) so I'd imagine it's the same if not very similar. There aren't many production 7 strings with recessed vintage-style trems hence my choice of the OT7T. The Ibanez AZ24047 I traded for it also had the Gotoh trem but was 25.5" scale and had HSS. I do miss the sound of the single coils a bit but may get a Vola in the future as they do similar specs but with slimmer necks than the AZ.
The Legator OT7T plays better to my preferences than the AZ Prestige in a number of ways. That doesn't mean the AZ isn't a high quality guitar, just comes down to personal preferences and the Legator just ended up being better for mine. Although I'd say the intonation & tuning stability is better on the Legator thanks to the 27" scale, at least with the out of the box setup. I don't even feel like I need to get a setup on the Opus until it needs some new strings.
I was sufficiently impressed with it I've actually taken a chance on another Legator. They did some Strat-style HSS models in a similar vein to the Opus Tele style, but only for a limited period. I'd been planning on getting a 6 string with HSS and a vintage trem recently anyway so thought...why not take a chance on Legator's OS6 as it has the specs I want, and should feel similar to the Tele model I've been impressed with. Only a single French retailer has one left though, and I'm in the UK (from what I can see the OS models were never sold in the UK, only the OT models). Fingers crossed it's all good though as returning something to another country would be a hassle.
Doubt I'll be getting more Legators in the future though as they seem to be focussed on the ultra-modern metal specs now. I liked the vibe of the OT & OS models as ihey mixed some more classic elements with the modern specs like ultra-slim necks, flat radius and stainless frets. A shame they were discontinued. I guess they think anything with Fishmans and pale moon ebony now sells better or something.
As for the morality of supporting a company that has an...interesting...reputation. My own personal experience has been good so far. I emailed them to ask if the OS6 had the same neck profile as the OT7T and whether they knew of any UK dealers that may have any stock so I don't have to order from France. They replied within an hour, confirmed the neck question and said no we don't know of any UK stock for that discontinued model but we hope you're able to get it. And all-in-all, if you buy one of their Korean made models aren't you really just buying a WMI product?!
Their quality control isn't great. Lots of stories of unplayable guitars shipped
This thing's locking nuts are made out of tin foil. And Six is right, the thing doesn't stay in tune, despite being locked on both ends technically. Also if you don't do a certain circus trick when changing the strings your tuners bottom out before you reach pitch. I am starting a guitar company, and I bought this instrument to research because I think we are going to do a lot of headless models, but all this really taught me was what NOT to make. It's frustrating because you so want it to be good. Oh man and their little headstock thing is just too bulky, they didn't take any of the corners off of it .
couldn't stand mine... sold it quickly..it was such a thin sound.. the active Emgs were horrid. it played great and for only putting 150 bucks into a 900 dollar guitar I couldn't complain much especially selling it for 350... but my kit TELE with a Warmoth neck sounded OMG so much better..
They are amazing guitars. They are one of the main guitar brands in my dads guitar store. Also you are saying the name right.
Spent 1.7k on a legator... qc issues emailed them right as i took it out of the case... i love the feel... it feels really good and premium, but when i fucking spend 1700 dollars on a guitar i expect the pickups to be mounted correctly and get the right fret inlay... oh and polished frets would be nice 😂 😂
I wonder how you play F natural chord with that headless, seems like the neck is thicker in that area
I wonder how is the QC on Legator guitars these days. I owned 3 of them back in 2017-2018 and had to return 2 8-string models because the necks were very unstable wherein I had to adjust the truss rods daily for months. The Ghost had terrible fretwork and a misaligned bridge saddle. I really love their design and playability but I hope their QC has improved.
Floyd 1000s and Originals are the same other than one being Korean made and the other German made. Same materials and same machinery. Floyd Rose 1000s are the OEM Originals that manufacturers receive to put on their guitars which is why you can't buy a 1000 aftermarket from Floyd Rose. Before some point between 2012-2014, Floyd Rose Originals on all import guitars, and even most mass produced US guitars, were made in Korea. They look, feel, and play identical to the German made Originals in every way other than the fact that they lack the "Made in Germany" stamp on the bottom. You could buy a brand new guitar from just about any brand, Dean, Fender, BC Rich, Jackson, Schecter, etc that listed "Floyd Rose Original" on the spec sheet, but when you took the Floyd out to inspect it, it wouldn't have the "Made In Germany" stamp and people would freak out thinking they got a licensed or fake Floyd. Some point between 2012-2014, Floyd Rose changed the on paper name of the Korean made Originals to 1000 and now people go around thinking their pre-2012 Korean Original is German made and better than the new 1000s because of the different names.
Guitarists grey matter is being tested in today's world $1000 for a guitar. IF YOU DONT TOUR? IM betting house payment or. Wife is disappointed 😂
I'm not sure I understand why you say it's "bad" cause you can't get a "good tone from the neck pickup"? I'm still wondering why guitar makers keep putting big holes where the body and neck join in half the guitars I have?! But, I guess I don't "get it" since I don't tune to "drop Z-flat"... Don't get me wrong, sound does come out of a neck pickup, but honestly, if I play 1000 notes, only two or three come outta the neck - usually cause I knocked the switch while playing! 😂 To each, their own.
I blame Eddie Van Halen for the tilted neck pickup thing. The only reason he bolted a humbucker to his Frankenstein is probably because the cavity wasn't deep enough, and he was too lazy to route it. Hence he made the excuse that "direct mount" pickups somehow contributed to better tone. They don't.
Pickups pick up string vibration. Not the wood. If his idea was legitimate, we'd all be screwing SM58s directly to speakers.
The pickups in the Legator are tilting because in order to adjust their height, you need to stick foam underneath. Sometimes, that foam doesn't sit right, gets overcompressed or vibrations/humidity from shipping cause them to move around.
You don't get this problem with pickup rings because the pickup raises and lowers via a spring.
I actually really dig the shape of that white one. Never played a Legator, I just remember a couple years ago when they were putting out full on scam level quality. I'm not sure how they ever stayed in business after that, but I am really glad to hear that they have upped their game.
The majority of the "hate" comes from putting an "American" price tag on what is really a second, possibly third rate import. These aren't "expensive" they are just OVERPRICED. When the "small stuff" like volume pots and switches are noticeable, then you can be sure that other things took a backseat to profit, also. A lot of the bridges look like "the usual" Korean hardware.
While I'm not a Strandberg fan, these guitars should not, for any reason, be priced higher.
ALSO... about the Floyd Rose 1000... Unless you think a different trem, like the Ibanez or another brand is better, that's yer opinion, and I'll respect it, but if you're going on about the quality of the 1000, or that it's made in Korea, you should probably get off it aside from where it's made, it's the same as the FR Original. The 1000 is a great FR model, and even the FR Special is really good, the Zamak they make it out of is nearly as hard as steel, and it's certainly not "pot metal", as described by the stupid. I put one on an old Kramer, and it's been working great for a few years with no noticeable wear.
There are some points why these guitars are good, but at the price point now, unless they have improved a lot in the past year or so, they aren't worth it.
Bought a Legator 8 String for 1600€.. Loved the feel, look and sound. But build quality was shit IMO… frets we’re awful, painting on the hardware was bad and it had some more production flaws.. oh and their customer service was ass. They’re rude as hell. And Im actually always very polite to people on the internet so it wasn’t that I wrote something rude..
So I decided to order a Strandberg Boden NX Metal 8. Best decision. Feels much better than Legator and Quality is damn good. And no flaws at all. My experience may not sound that bad. But I must say I was very disappointed because I expected much more from a guitar that’s that expensive..
I have a legtor 8 string, a less expensive one and it's pretty bad. Fret sprout, high frets, among a myriad of problems. I also have a Ghost X, which was an $1800 new guitar that i bought off a famous RUclips person for $1400 and it's straight up garbage. The bridge is horrible, it's not grounded, high frets, fret sprout and it just plays like crap. From my experience of a mid range and high end legato guitar has been really bad and won't try another. Worst two guitar purchases I've made in my 25+ years of playing.
the nazgul set is not active its passive
I just ordered a Ninja 7 string, super excited to play it. It replaced my Schecter Reaper 7 due to it having active pickups and locking tuners.
I bought the SE 200 fanned fret 7 string, maybe 6 or 7 years ago. I love it and have had no problems with it. It's pretty basic, so maybe that's why. But it does what it's made for without a doubt.
Hated the quality of Legator.
I’ve had nothing but terrible experiences unfortunately.
is the headless guitar grounded or not? thanks!
The charles caswell shape I actually kinda dig, though weirdly it looks much better in this video than their own promo images. If anything it's the 7 strings and scale length (and accompanying giant headstock) that makes it seem extra disproportionate, otherwise the shape is a pretty strong contender in the "blobby slightly offset strat" market. It doesn't make me vaguely seasick like the Cort G series for example, it's like it's pushed past uncanny valley into simply ridiculous territory
Slow pots have more friction on the ohmmmmmmer.
I bought a cheap 7 string eyebanez last year. I'm just getting around to messing with it. It's nice, rolled fretboard but sharp. I wish it had a trem.
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I guess they're hated because of their budget guitars where they wanted to provide multiscale 8 strings at a budget which means the stereotypical target audience seemed to be metalcore teenagers who want the extra strings to play a bunch of 0000 riffs but don't have the money for a Strandberg or whatever.
But for me, seeing bands like Rings of Saturn and Charles Caswell using Legators I'm guessing those issues are of the past. I'm interested in buying one, the N8FX looks awesome so I'm stuck between that and the Strandberg Boden Standard NX 8...
Legator is hit and miss as far as I've heard. My personal experience, I got a B stock ninja 7X straight from legator via Reverb. The QC was pretty damn good and the overall quality was really great, couldn't believe it was a b-stock
At this point we own 2 b-stock guitars from Legator, and I’ve been generally happy with them. We picked up a Helio years ago when they changed factories due to QC issues for $350, and it’s been pretty decent for what it is. Some finish bleed on the body, but not super noticeable. I wouldn’t buy them straight stock, but the b-stock has been a good enough deal.
I know floyd specials are shit, but how much of a difference is there between a 1000 and an OFR or a GE1996T?
I couldn’t remember what the headless sounded like because of the fan blowing your hair in the wind like Fabio. 10:28 Epic.
oh yeah, goat...greatest of all time...sports saying.
Slow pots are usually high quality, smooth, long lasting stuff.
Can i use a 750k ohmmmm pot for more bass in the tone knob?
Your option to not screwing over online vendors by returning a guitar would be not making a video. If you feel you must you should take responsibility and sell them yourself.
they're cool but man their killswitches SUCK. prolly why charles Caswell replaced his
I've bought a 8 string legator guitar (1000$) it is the worst purchase i've ever done. I try to fix this guitar but i really regret not buying an ibanez :/ I'll go to a guitar builder , something is not sounding right with the mic , especially the mid tone
I love my Opus 8 string Legator, and got it for extremely cheap via a blowout sale they had.
The stock pickups suck are arse, hence changed the bridge
I would not pay 3000dollars for Gibson much less pay that price for a guitar I've never heard of
Thank you this is really helpful. I was considering one.
The Floyd Rose 1000 is a very reliable bridge. I have them installed on 3 guitars and there have been no issues in years. After Evertune it's the best device for keeping my guitars in tune. My LTD Arrow hasn't needed tuning in weeks - It's that good! I'm a working guitarist so my gear takes a lot of battering, but the FR 1000 has coped with everything I have thrown at it on all 3 guitars (Jackson SL3R soloist, LTD Arrow and BC Rich Mockingbird). Your channel is the only place I have seen them criticized outside of people who hate Floyd Rose in general. Are you sure you haven't used a guitar with a poor set up, or some other fault?
Agreed, I wonder why some people hate on it. Maybe it's just a country of origin bias.
@@ericfritts5994 It doesn't seem to make much odds. People say USA made guitars are stronger builds - That may have been true a while ago but it's hard to tell the difference now. The quality nowadays vs the 80s and 90s is massive - We are spoiled for choice! The worst you can expect is when the guitar needs a setup, or there are small flaws in the paintjob. In the 80s there were some dreadful guitars without truss-rods and action so high you could do a tightrope walk on the strings. Nothing was online so people couldn't review it with a wide audience. They got away with murder back then!
@@hrgiger Yeah when I play my Mexican, Korean, Indonesian guitars compared to a USA I don't get how they justify the pricetags on the USAs now adays
@@ericfritts5994 people hate on Floyd 1000s because they don't know its the Korean Original. Without the word Original in the name, people automatically assume its bad even though Floyd Rose themselves have said its identical to the Original, made using the same materials and machinery, just made in a different country.
I think it's more of a price point thing. If you're spending that much money on a guitar, loaded to the gills with fancy shit, why doesn't it have the German original floyd rose? Kind of gets under my skin too
So Ive been looking for a mid-price range guitar for modern djent/progressive metal and have been eyeing the Ninja 6 thats $1700. After watching this video Im questioning buying it. Everytime I find a guitar Id like to get in this price range every video always puts doubt due to QC issues, etc. Would that Ninja 6 be a safe option or would it likely have the sort of issues you found with the cheaper headless in this video?
It’s funny how I loved the way Legator models used to look back when they had a really bad rep but now their guitars are f*ckin ugly and their QC has improved greatly.
Hear me out: The Charles Caswell signature model looks goofy for a metal guitar, but it would look right at home in the hands of someone like Jon Anderson. It's great styling, just not for what it's meant to do.
Legator really just feels like it wanted to be Ormsby but failed miserably in its execution. Also, I can't stand the sound of Fishman Moderns. The Tosin Abasi set sounds way nicer imo
I guess that since legato and vibrato are both techniques within music it is probably Le-gaa-tor. But, the most important question after all is still: Does it djent?
Have you tried NK guitars are ebay. Look it up, you may be pleasantly surprised.
They Look sick tho. I love em But for their price Range of the 8s I get an evil twin 8 in half price :) they kinda Look like they are the hate child of schecter and musicman :p
LEGator: stupid villain like people have said
LEgator: Florida puppy
Dude good technic BUTT all over the place MELODY PLEASE
I have the 9-string Josh Travis signature guitar and I love it. It's actually the best of all my guitars.
I like legator. I dont like that they take guitars completely off the Market. Wanted to buy a Black Ice 8 String. Thomann had enough of em. Legator told them to not sell them anymore because a new type of that guitar is to come. Feelsbadman
Judging by the shape of the upper cut away they should have calledit the Legator Empregnater!
I love the tone of cheap unbranded pickups. It suits my shitty playing very well.