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  • Here are my top tips and tricks for the 8-string guitar, featuring the new Cort KX508MS guitar!
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  • @davidallen3360
    @davidallen3360 4 года назад +397

    “26.5” scale guitar is a nightmare”
    It’s ok, squier strat tuned to drop E, he didn’t mean it I still love you

    • @BinarySounds
      @BinarySounds 4 года назад +15

      Fender scale is 25.5, not 26.5

    • @davidallen3360
      @davidallen3360 4 года назад +58

      BinarySounds clearly that’s not what I meant

    • @zynosgd9982
      @zynosgd9982 3 года назад +31

      @@BinarySounds i think you missed the joke here.

    • @kylanexists4811
      @kylanexists4811 3 года назад +2

      Jackson JS Series JS32-8 is a 26.5 and I'm looking at that and I'm new completely to guitar but i am a fast learner

    • @DJENTISNTNOTAGENRE
      @DJENTISNTNOTAGENRE 3 года назад +1

      @@kylanexists4811 I have that guitar and it's not terrible, but the lowest strings suffers a little bit for the scale being shorter than what you would normally want for an 8 string. I put a 09-80 string set on it and keep it in F# Standard most of the time because that's the best tuning to keep it in at that scale length.

  • @charlesmayberry2825
    @charlesmayberry2825 4 года назад +242

    The best advice on here is honestly roll the low end off, Seriously, I mean if you want mud that's cool, but if you want it to be a sound that's defined, turn the bass down... a lot.

    • @weareallbeingwatched4602
      @weareallbeingwatched4602 4 года назад +12

      Applies to bass guitar also

    • @charlesmayberry2825
      @charlesmayberry2825 4 года назад +9

      @@weareallbeingwatched4602 that's very good to know, and I appreciate the comment :)

    • @weareallbeingwatched4602
      @weareallbeingwatched4602 4 года назад +14

      @@charlesmayberry2825 most specifically making sure the the area around 250Hz-750Hz in a mix is not too cluttered and has proper definition is critical to the musicality of a mix. This is often a question of note selection / arrangement.
      There is an area of two octaves between 250Hz and 1kHz, and that is where the majority of the music lives.

    • @tfwnoyandere
      @tfwnoyandere 4 года назад +14

      wrong, bass 10 mids 0 treble 10 gain 10

    • @weareallbeingwatched4602
      @weareallbeingwatched4602 4 года назад +11

      @@tfwnoyandere surely you mean bass +10 mids -10 treble +10, gain +15

  • @DiePixelkrieger
    @DiePixelkrieger 5 лет назад +399

    Just bought my first 8 string.
    its also my first guitar.
    and just my second instrument.
    but i like tosin abasi :D

    • @-lien8string541
      @-lien8string541 5 лет назад +42

      DiePixelkrieger I’m excited younger players are carrying this on.

    • @fvnk0
      @fvnk0 4 года назад +40

      DiePixelkrieger you poor soul

    • @InfamouslyCantankerous
      @InfamouslyCantankerous 4 года назад +26

      Hey man big ups to you. I bought a 7 string as my first instrument. And I bought a 6 string as well to really learn on but I really like noodling around on my 7 and since the 7 is what I want to play mainly I figured I would get it right away so that way it didnt seem so foreign when I finally learn and get on the 7 full time. At least that was my thought.

    • @andreasoloansihotang122
      @andreasoloansihotang122 4 года назад +4

      You're a bass player

    • @hubertgrzelak8828
      @hubertgrzelak8828 4 года назад

      Good luck buddy hope you doing great with it '

  • @TheCrumpers53
    @TheCrumpers53 5 лет назад +248

    This is kinda bullshit because he says their isn’t many guitar string packs available for 8 string however their is plenty of the same gauge sets mentioned that are available by other brands BUT this video is sponsored by Ernie Ball and I highly recommend not using their 8 strings packs their low gauge dies very quickly in my experience and my other 8 string friends can agree. Daddario makes plenty of 8 string packs. I use the 9-84 set and they are great.

    • @DriFD3S
      @DriFD3S 5 лет назад +5

      I like DR Black Beauties, but I don't think that they come in an 8 though, just 7.

    • @silverdoesmc891
      @silverdoesmc891 5 лет назад +5

      What universe are you in where the 74 breaks easily? I use a 74 for my B string (tuned down to Bb) and it works amazingly, both as a Bb on my 8 and 7 strings.

    • @FEBRIZIOtv
      @FEBRIZIOtv 5 лет назад +5

      There aren’t many* but yes. I agree. I put new ernies on my 8 and I didn’t play it for a few weeks and went back to it and it sounded like garbage already after like a day or two.

    • @howiezeng7732
      @howiezeng7732 5 лет назад +1

      And Rotosound sells 7&8 strings separately. Economical choice. Good tone and acceptable durability.

    • @TheCrumpers53
      @TheCrumpers53 5 лет назад +6

      SilverDoesMC strings dying doesn’t mean breaking. The overall tone dies in the strings.

  • @Seeattle
    @Seeattle 5 лет назад +200

    Hears Meshugga once
    Me: *I need an 8 string right now, immediately*
    I’m glad I found this video, at least now I know what I’m in for

    • @nipperslipcomedy7006
      @nipperslipcomedy7006 4 года назад +7

      I love Meshuggah. But what got me into 8 string was Batushka.

    • @Katteenn
      @Katteenn 4 года назад +3

      Literally me

    • @mr.vore_659
      @mr.vore_659 4 года назад +1

      i got an 8 string for infant annihilator, i found out meshugga used them about a week after

    • @hollow3122
      @hollow3122 4 года назад

      bruh exactly

    • @jeremyschiesser7086
      @jeremyschiesser7086 4 года назад +3

      I remember hearing all meshuggah up to Nothing all in one evening and I'll never forget that experience hearing such fucking controlled carnage

  • @LEWZR
    @LEWZR 4 года назад +76

    The palm muting tip blew my mind, i always wondered why my 8 string chugs were always so boomy and not as percussive as they are in songs by my fave bands, idk why i never tried moving my hand forward a bit, problem solved!

    • @seanoconnor5730
      @seanoconnor5730 4 года назад +5

      I feel you man. I recently got my first floyd rose guitar and I noticed my palm muting technique isn't working that well with the floyd rose bridge. Still trying to get it down

  • @robbieredrum5953
    @robbieredrum5953 5 лет назад +121

    That's a sexy Cort.
    Didn't know that model existed.

    • @DerecX0
      @DerecX0 5 лет назад +8

      It's a 2019 model in just brand new, I could get one for me too and it's a beast!

    • @Unmaleable
      @Unmaleable 5 лет назад

      @@DerecX0 2018 buddy

    • @rollipollirock
      @rollipollirock 5 лет назад +1

      ROBBIE REDRUM really stepping up their game

    • @-lien8string541
      @-lien8string541 5 лет назад +1

      ROBBIE REDRUM I thought it was a Kiesel tbh

    • @rollipollirock
      @rollipollirock 5 лет назад +2

      /-\lien 8string schecter Ibanez LTD jusmped on this bandwagon like 2 years ago... Cort makes guitar that will be cheap with mass market appeal... so they aren’t going to be bold right off the bat.

  • @jc8178
    @jc8178 5 лет назад +74

    11:25 As a man, I do actually have a 6th finger that can sit right above the nut.

    • @RFMulJr
      @RFMulJr 4 года назад +7

      I don't know anywhere else a man's 6th finger can rest.

    • @seanoconnor5730
      @seanoconnor5730 4 года назад +1

      @@RFMulJr I enjoy the good ole mushroom stamp

    • @tabortreanor2152
      @tabortreanor2152 3 года назад

      I know it's quite the late reply, but DAMN, you made me spit out my beer lol

    • @benjaminredfern4138
      @benjaminredfern4138 2 месяца назад

      Nut singular? Charles, nut singular!?

  • @jeepnut1
    @jeepnut1 5 лет назад +67

    Haha. "...Djentle..."
    13:44

    • @IceCubeNETWORK873
      @IceCubeNETWORK873 5 лет назад +2

      Reminds me Of Stevie T!

    • @Evi1penguin5
      @Evi1penguin5 4 года назад +1

      I knew I wasn't the only one that heard that. You know he was thinking it

    • @HeyItsHypno
      @HeyItsHypno 4 года назад +1

      i read this as i heard it

  • @Alecoes1
    @Alecoes1 5 лет назад +212

    D'addario has a 9-80 set as well, it's really good

    • @erchulo100
      @erchulo100 5 лет назад +10

      They sound way better than Ernie Ball too

    • @tacobender5000
      @tacobender5000 5 лет назад +5

      Use their tension calculator. It's a great tool

    • @AyeeKyro
      @AyeeKyro 4 года назад +7

      are these good for
      D# G # E# A# D# G# B# E#
      (Drop G# with a low D#, the tuning after the burial uses)

    • @yogurtlurker
      @yogurtlurker 4 года назад +3

      I use this on my 7 strings omitting the 9s

    • @KeeanuHolden
      @KeeanuHolden 4 года назад +2

      Yogurt Lurker does that work fairly well? Was actually thinking about doing the same lol

  • @stenooo2439
    @stenooo2439 Год назад +14

    When it comes to strings, I personally believe that Horizon Devices Progression Tension are the best for 8 strings. Especially if you enjoy alternate tunings on the higher strings. They seem to feel smoother than anything else I’ve played and they actually change the sound of the guitar tremendously, as they offer clarity on a completely different level than other strings.

  • @blahblahsen1142
    @blahblahsen1142 5 лет назад +241

    heres a fun trick you can do. tune it like a 7-string(ignoring the lowest, hear me out) in C, so you get a higher range, and then throw a 125 bass string on the low end and tune to C an octave down. you basically now have a 7-string in a fairly heavy C with your own bass player. the advantages are that you can learn 7-strings and the low C is just an octave right next to it so those act like 1 string and never sound muddy together. you need a set that goes VERY light like an 8 for the high string. C still sounds badass in power chords and that distorted bass string adds punch to it, plus for Djenty stuff you have the octave without skipping a string or needing to mute, just bump back and forth from big C to little C. you can literally do powerchords with that low string and it never gets muddy because its just a tight C with the bass accompaniment also it makes people think you can play an 8, when really you just learned a 7 and a redundant low. and let's be honest, a C1 in a 125 guage is gonna sound way bigger than any drop E bullshit. now just get that guy with a subcontrabass in C0 and you got a band.

    • @rosev.7007
      @rosev.7007 5 лет назад +8

      man after my own heart.

    • @e30325ikiller
      @e30325ikiller 5 лет назад +15

      can u play motorhead then

    • @xTheWeissBrot
      @xTheWeissBrot 4 года назад +6

      wtf

    • @nooralamgir3703
      @nooralamgir3703 4 года назад +1

      Loool! Kevin from SaidTooMuch?

    • @tommyfalconey
      @tommyfalconey 4 года назад +2

      Only thing with that is the tuning peg being able to accommodate for the size of the string

  • @WraithVanglorious
    @WraithVanglorious 5 лет назад +42

    Rather than switching out your tuners, you can just unwind the end of your thick low strings (like the 7th and 8th). It adds a couple steps to your stringing setup when changing strings, but you don't have to buy separate tuning pegs like this.

    • @caloomface
      @caloomface 3 года назад +2

      Have you seen any good videos on how to do that effectively?

    • @WraithVanglorious
      @WraithVanglorious 3 года назад +3

      @@caloomface Just cut the tip of a string where it's wound then use pliers to partially unwind it (but no too much so the whole string doesn't come undone lol). If you have Instagram or Facebook I can make a video and DM it to you real quick. @rock_god_ on IG

    • @RockStarOscarStern634
      @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +3

      @@WraithVanglorious or maybe have them tapered. The newer string sets are properly tapered these days

  • @zynosgd9982
    @zynosgd9982 5 лет назад +14

    I use my RG8 (regular 27" scale lenght) for my lead stuff because I really like the feeling of it. Lot of people find me weird for that reason but I really like the spacing between the frets, plus, I have big hands so it porlly helps.

    • @Jay-mx8ux
      @Jay-mx8ux 4 года назад +2

      I’m getting the rg8 is it a good guitar?

  • @MaartenFranken
    @MaartenFranken 5 лет назад +67

    Yesterday I had the 7-string version of that guitar delivered and damn!... Im in love! :P

    • @jessfreeman3272
      @jessfreeman3272 5 лет назад

      Maarten Franken what kind of guitar is it

    • @MaartenFranken
      @MaartenFranken 5 лет назад +1

      @@jessfreeman3272 Cort KX-500, you should check it out if you have the chance. Very nice guitar, especially for that price

    • @jessfreeman3272
      @jessfreeman3272 5 лет назад

      Maarten Franken ok thx I will definitely check it out

    • @avisaiko5354
      @avisaiko5354 5 лет назад

      This is made in Indonesia, but I can't find it in my country

    • @MaartenFranken
      @MaartenFranken 5 лет назад

      @@avisaiko5354 Its build in Indonesia, indeed. But its not sloppy, or anything, its build very decent, especially the neck is super IHMO, it feels really nice and smooth. I know that Thomann has this model and they ship to quite a few countries, you could try there.

  • @grantlazenby8192
    @grantlazenby8192 5 лет назад +18

    Good tips there for 8-string Trey. The main thing I found when I got my first 8-string was adapting my muting technique for the guitar as you pointed out. Once you get it an 8-string is a very rewarding instrument to play.

  • @prognogg212
    @prognogg212 5 лет назад +48

    what tips would you have for a 17 or 18 string guitar?

  • @fridellpickups5054
    @fridellpickups5054 2 года назад +8

    Great video 😊 I'm currently playing six strings but considering 8-strings for playing extended scales and arpeggios.

  • @PeterJDeVault
    @PeterJDeVault 11 месяцев назад +5

    My first 8-string is on its way. Your video gave me a really good set of ideas about what to expect and work on. Thanks!

  • @SubversiveFilms
    @SubversiveFilms 5 лет назад +6

    Good video, but I have to disagree about using an 8 gauge string for a high E on a 26.5" scale guitar. I have one on my 7 string right now and it feels perfect...bends without too much effort and isn't floppy.

  • @Oilid
    @Oilid 5 лет назад +16

    Gr8 video m8!

  • @ThomasMetal75
    @ThomasMetal75 5 лет назад +8

    I don't play 8 strings, but I'm glad you have helped out so many that want to play extended range guitars. Also, thank you for calling Messugsh metal!

  • @shadcovert1160
    @shadcovert1160 3 года назад +1

    7 strings are iffy as it is... Why would you want your notes even more non distinguishable from each other. You can play any series of notes on that low string and they will all sound like the same vomit. I just don't get it.

  • @illican
    @illican 5 лет назад +12

    I like 9-90 for F# standard on a 26.5-28" scale, I've found 80 to be far too floppy
    (i order a custom set from stringjoy)
    for drop E I get a 105 and unwind some of the string at the end to fit it in the tuner

    • @Storm-cu4vo
      @Storm-cu4vo 4 года назад

      Stringjoy is life

    • @brandonbryson3317
      @brandonbryson3317 2 года назад

      That’s crazy haha I use 10 - 62 for drop F# and it works just fine on a 27 inch scale.

    • @necro_nova
      @necro_nova 2 года назад

      stringjoy is amazing. My .85 unwound and popped out of my floyd rose and they replaced it for free no problem (priority shipping too)

  • @SergeyPupkoMusic
    @SergeyPupkoMusic 3 года назад +1

    My RGMS8 is on delivery vehicle right now and I'm jumping out of my skin... Too hard to wait any longer!!!

  • @vladmihalca6402
    @vladmihalca6402 5 лет назад +9

    8'S GR8 M8.

  • @EtsedJayel
    @EtsedJayel 5 лет назад +24

    Imagine this: my first 8 string guitar was a 25.5". Always been a total nightmare to play low stuff, and couldn't figure out why, until some time later I found out the importance of scale lenght. Going multiscale since then.

    • @shanuprateek777
      @shanuprateek777 Год назад

      what?!! why? you could adjust your tuning on that length and i mean you could have your custom tuning-there are no limits dude. Im sorry you think like that man.

    • @LuxTheSlav
      @LuxTheSlav Год назад

      @@shanuprateek777 Why? Physics, you muppet. Watch the damn video.

    • @Duevel
      @Duevel Год назад

      @@shanuprateek777 Yeah, you could tune it to BEADGBEA

    • @Creatic58
      @Creatic58 9 месяцев назад

      @@shanuprateek777What if he wanted to play the lower notes? Fucking idiot

  • @Alfredo78666
    @Alfredo78666 Год назад +1

    The Meshuggah scale AKA "Jimmy, what you do with the clothesline!"

  • @dvkprod
    @dvkprod 4 года назад +4

    The guitar shop guy who used to change my string did a neat trick - he unwound the thickest string a couple centimeters at the tuner so it would fit the whole.

  • @victorlaw4256
    @victorlaw4256 5 лет назад +5

    Never owned a guitar beyond 6. Very interesting advice that was. Many thanks. I enjoyed it!

  • @SevenGC89
    @SevenGC89 3 года назад +5

    Just got my first 8 string today, I've been playing 6 string for 22 years (Since I was 10), and maybe 2 years on a 7 string so I decided to just go for it. I got an Agile Chiral Nirvana in Oceanburst, it's also my first headless guitar. I'm def a little intimidated by how dummy thicc the neck is but I'm in love with it either way and cannot wait to start writing some sick music with it!

    • @leek6927
      @leek6927 3 года назад +3

      I personally don’t like the look of headless guitars

    • @kazenriq
      @kazenriq Год назад +1

      The thickness kind of intimidates me a quit, I confess. But, until then I'm enjoying my lovely RGMS7.

  • @still6511
    @still6511 5 лет назад +6

    I really love latest videos. Educational and helpful. Keep up the good work Treyzinator!

  • @ShaolinSteez
    @ShaolinSteez 5 лет назад +11

    I’m literally waiting for my DKAF8 to be delivered, perfect timing eh?

  • @ShaighJosephson
    @ShaighJosephson 10 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah, drop D tuning is way too floppy on my Dean Mod 8 that is not multiscale... Upping the string gage helps alot...

  • @HellAndRage
    @HellAndRage 5 лет назад +7

    Will you review this 8 string beast?)

  • @7AKV7
    @7AKV7 4 года назад +2

    He's holding one of the best priced high quality guitar in the world. I want it (Cort KX508MS) sooooo baaaaaaaadlllyyy fffuuuuuuccckkk.

  • @metalinyourhead3604
    @metalinyourhead3604 4 года назад +12

    You know, I’d like an 8 string but more for progressive rock and to experiment and not solely for metal like most people use it.

    • @apoplexiamusic
      @apoplexiamusic 4 года назад +2

      it's basically a less expensive Chapman Stick! :D

  • @SpacePirate313
    @SpacePirate313 Год назад +3

    Thank you brother, love the channel. Very informative I know that when I do obtain a 7 or 8 string I plan on keeping it tuned to its standard tuning. Keep the vids coming love em.

  • @shadcovert1160
    @shadcovert1160 3 года назад +1

    Or you could just play a guitar instead of whatever this thing is.

  • @lazaruscomplexofficial
    @lazaruscomplexofficial 5 лет назад +4

    slightly disappointed there wasn't 8 tips

  • @genjitsu7448
    @genjitsu7448 2 года назад +2

    That Cort guitar that you are holding looks like a cool guitar. I really like the finish that it has. Cool headstock as well. I have been thinking of getting a multiscale for my next guitar. String tension is really a big deal and it feels really bad when you have floppy strings. I would imagine that it plays great otherwise why would you have it?
    On my current 7 string i have found over time that i have been moving towards using heavier strings as they actually feel better, they don't go sharp if you pick too hard, and they seem to hold tune better but i am not sure why. I have been going up on gauge even on the high strings currently using a 12 for the high string, then a 17, 24, 32, 42, 54, and finally a 74. I have to say that i can't believe how much better the guitar is with the heavier strings.
    I started with a low string of only 60, then over time when it was time to do a string change i tried a few gauges until i landed on the 74 which it tight but just barely tight if that makes sense. I have had to buy mixed packs to get what i wanted so unfortunately there has been some waste but i now see many packs that are close to this spec with the exception of the low string.
    And your idea of getting the single tuner for the low string is great, same for the saddle if available, the nut you will have to file but if you do get the right file and work slowly and check your work frequently as it really doesn't take much to resize the nut. Good luck and Cheers!

  • @Jaqoum_The_Wizard_King
    @Jaqoum_The_Wizard_King 6 месяцев назад +1

    11:16 Ladies and Djentlemen nave you found this to be an issue on Headless axes? No? Correct answer. Get a headless 8 string for maximum balance because the weight lf your massive 8-stringed balls doesn’t offset your massive 8-stringed chaude guitar

    • @kenny.m.olsen95
      @kenny.m.olsen95 6 месяцев назад +1

      Headless guitar masterrace squaaaad

  • @garrettpiatt9958
    @garrettpiatt9958 3 года назад +2

    Bought it

  • @christopherharv
    @christopherharv 2 года назад +1

    Drop E on an 8 sounds great with a normal bass' low E. a 5-string bass with the low B is good too, and you still just play the normal low E on the bass in octave unison with the low E on the drop E 8-string. This is what 'shuggah does, except in F standard. It is a great tight sound, don't always be thinking the bass has to be a whole octave lower than the guitar at all times. E1 on a guitar and E1 on a bass sound very different.

  • @AndiKravljaca
    @AndiKravljaca 5 лет назад +3

    Still waiting for that multiscale Floyd Rose...

    • @hhectorlector
      @hhectorlector 5 лет назад +1

      Andi Kravljaca Kahler’s got you covered until then. Agile guitars come stock with them.

  • @caboosemacs
    @caboosemacs 5 лет назад +3

    I buy my strings from Stringjoy, they offer pre-set packs, and a custom gauge pack builder where you pick each string gauge for yourself. They also have an amazing string tension calculator. And the strings sound great and stay in tune!
    I got bored with my 8 string in standard tuning and wanted to tune up to an A# to play some Nevermore. So basically a 7 string tuning with a high G#. I had the 80-9 pack you showed on already and went from 150ish lbs of total tension to 235 total lbs. My high G# string broke immeadiatly on the way to pitch with 28 lbs on a 9 gauge... After looking up my set up on the tension calculator, I had to frankenstein a compromise with 6, 8, and acoustic strings I had, with the tension calculator as my guide. Ended up with a 64-46-36-24w-16p-13-10-9.
    Finally, I used Stringjoys calculator to tailor a custom set I built for this tuning within the 150 lb total string tention standard for my guitar/scale length, which is now a custom 68-7 set with perfect tension pattern.
    I cannot beleive how important string tension was for any type of tuning, and an 8 string will force you to learn all sorts of new things you would never have considered before, if you're like me anyways...

    • @caloomface
      @caloomface 3 года назад +1

      Man, you don't say. I've got this Cort 8 string arriving tomorrow and I'm now very concerned about string tension lol

  • @sv1016
    @sv1016 5 лет назад +3

    i actually started with 8 string but wish i knew all this before i bought it now that i'm changing strings.
    also can't belive how much differnce the styrofoam made

  • @mikel8367
    @mikel8367 5 лет назад +3

    thank you for the educational video. I have the Cort 7 string and absolutely love it. just got an Agile 8 string wow what a beast. but now I know what I need to do thanks to you .👍

  • @Divine_Serpent_Geh
    @Divine_Serpent_Geh 4 года назад +11

    Personally, I love my Agile 8 string, because of the very long scale, almost 29”. This allows for much thinner strings which is good for me, I like the sloppy tone of a slightly slim string. I HATE the higher strings though, just too stiff and too much tension, I have to use 8s or 9s for the high E.
    I no longer play it in F# standard. I double the high E, and then basically have it in Drop A like a normal 7 string. I use 9-54

  • @TheMytherian
    @TheMytherian 5 лет назад +2

    The other thing to consider is how limited the pickup selection is. It’s a lot harder to find a completely satisfying pickup set just because you’ve got so many frequencies to cover. It’s a series of compromises just like any other gear choices :/

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +1

    2:05 The Orpharion is like that too

  • @VGMrawk
    @VGMrawk 5 лет назад +2

    Cort...hell yes. I'm glad Cort is keeping up with the trends, but I love their viva gold ii series, though discontinued. Love Cort.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +1

    Yeah if you have a Guitar w/ a scale length longer than 26.5 on the Treble side you'd have to use the lightest gauge of strings like Octave4Plus .003 gauge strings.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +1

    Thinner strings work better on a longer scale length & anything thinner than 9s like 8s they would have to be Specailly Coated to prevent them from breaking.

  • @Ssfx2024
    @Ssfx2024 4 года назад +2

    Hey trey, can you say which locking tuner you used to replace the 8th string

  • @kiltsteve7794
    @kiltsteve7794 6 месяцев назад +1

    The “e a e a d g b e “ tuning was an idea I had in 1989. I was a beginner luthier and an intermediate guitarist. Amateur bass player. DAMN! Yet now I will build “MY” 8 string idea. Thank you for helping me solve some riddles in my design. And reawakening my idea.

  • @jbaker134
    @jbaker134 5 лет назад +10

    I have 5 8-strings. My main axes are tuned to open C# minor, with a custom 10.5-110 kalium set. They both have locking tuners, and had to be drilled a little bit to accommodate them. They have 28" scale lengths.
    Lots of great tips for beginner 8-string players here. SO many cool things that you can do with these guitars. I honestly feel like anybody who shits on extended range instruments is probably intimidated by them, and can't handle the idea of having to rethink the way they've conventionally played guitar all their lives.

    • @seanortigoza3931
      @seanortigoza3931 5 лет назад

      Exactly! They express their inability to play an extended range guitar by bashing and making negative comments but deep inside, they just don't know how to play such an amazing instrument.

    • @Niven42
      @Niven42 4 года назад

      15:50 illustrates so well why extended range guitars exist.

    • @Gio_Dude_
      @Gio_Dude_ 4 года назад

      what do you recommend for a decent 8 string set up, I just bought one and I have no clue what to get for it. like amps, pre amps, pedals and pick ups

  • @daviejones6178
    @daviejones6178 5 лет назад +2

    Hey man. I just want to say thank you very much for the tips. I recently bought a really nice 8 stringer for 150 bucks. That's something you just can't pass up. But I was worried about the gauge of string. And you happen to help me figure it out. It won't be perfect, using the Ernie's you mentioned, but it'll be better than the BS that the owner before me has put my baby through. Thank you so much, now I'm going to be looking for a multi scale to shred on

  • @kaffeslurk
    @kaffeslurk 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for the video, very informative and nice playing! The fret wraps were new to me, have they been in use for 7s and 8s for a while?

  • @mikedizzle298
    @mikedizzle298 4 года назад +2

    What a great video, answered all my questions in one stop. TY man great job.

  • @LOLprotatoes
    @LOLprotatoes 5 лет назад +3

    Guitar noob here: why do locking tuners simplify changing strings?

    • @tarkenton3895
      @tarkenton3895 5 лет назад +4

      Trey has a video on this on the gear gods channel as well. It basically means that since the tuner locks your string, you can just feed the string through the tuner peg, pull it with your hand towards the tip of the headstock to a good tension, lock the string in place and then tune to pitch. That means you won't have much (if any) string windings around the peg and it just makes it a bit quicker.
      If you have a trem system as well (and your guitar nut is well made and lubricated) then you CAN get rid of the need for a locking nut if there is one. This is because you've eliminated the possibility of the string being unwound slightly around the tuner peg when you dive your trem, and then when the trem is released your string snaps back awkwardly into place with some slight tuning discrepancy from the original pitch.

    • @LOLprotatoes
      @LOLprotatoes 5 лет назад

      @@tarkenton3895 Thanks a lot, really helpful.

  • @jackWfoot
    @jackWfoot 3 года назад +1

    All jokes aside, Im curious to see someone with 6 fingers shred now

  • @judsonchristudas
    @judsonchristudas 4 года назад +1

    Quite informative... Expected as always. Nice Job mate

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +1

    10:16 The Tuning I use is half step down tuning cause I find that w/ a longer scale & thinner strings I can easily get a Stevie Ray Vaughn sound w/o having to deal w/ Thicker strings on a shorter scale.

  • @bodabodaguy3193
    @bodabodaguy3193 4 года назад +2

    Looking into pianos as a kid was always unnerving, felt like id fall in, damn tom and jerry

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +1

    However w/ a longer scale length the lower strings don't have to be insanely thick

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +1

    These Guitars are great for Church Gigs cause you can now transpose on the fly & have a more useful note range. These Guitars need really light strings (9s) cause their scale length is often the same as a Baritone Guitar at 27 inches.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 3 года назад +1

    I also have that 8 String Guitar, but I tune mine down a Half step so that it's easier for me to sing the high notes without pushing my vocal to where I'd hurt myself.

  • @rolandogabrielballadaresga3680
    @rolandogabrielballadaresga3680 3 года назад +1

    There should be MORE 30 scale 8 string guitars. Multiscale or not 30 for the 8 string is just AWESOME.

  • @jaygee434
    @jaygee434 3 года назад +1

    You mentioned about wrapping your thumb around on a 6 string, the guitar teacher I was given at college used to give me grief for doing that. Nice to know I'm not alone in the thumb wrap

  • @gluonpa6878
    @gluonpa6878 6 месяцев назад

    I started playing 4 months ago and I'm a djent crazy. I started with a 6 strings Hellraiser, but soon bought a PRS Holcomb 7-strings. The PRS is the best guitar I ever heard. But I need something louder and went for an Omen-8 (26.5 scale) but it's unconvincing. So I traded for a 8 strings Hellraiser (28 scale) I'll soon get.

  • @Miggeddy
    @Miggeddy 5 лет назад +2

    i like the tuning ia eklundh plays: e a e a d g b e
    but im bad in intonation, so i rly have to figure out that again

  • @drewharrito5705
    @drewharrito5705 2 года назад +1

    Hey man! Great video!! Very helpful. What are your thoughts on the Agile Chiral 8 string?? I have not heard of Cort but that is a gorgeous guitar and right around the same price range as the Agile. Super tempting to grab the model you are using here. If you have already covered them in another video sorry!

  • @chrisgettman
    @chrisgettman 5 лет назад +2

    What were you using for the amp tone? Sounds awesome

  • @DavidsMusicChannel
    @DavidsMusicChannel 3 года назад +1

    Thanks dude! Your video helped indeed! Used some of your tips on my latest 8th string song. Cheers and keep the great content coming! 👍

  • @jeroam498
    @jeroam498 3 месяца назад

    Hello, i have a question for the F# string gauge. Does it fit in the tuner of the Cort KX508MS and also through the body and bridge? I red some comments that say It was not possible to put a F# string with gauge of 80 on this guitare. Please can you tell me if it's possible to put one on this guitare. I'm interested to buy this one. And i have tried this gauge on my first 8strings guitare and sounds really good. I want to have the same Gauge for this guitare if it's possible. Thanks. Great video by the way

  • @codcade
    @codcade 5 лет назад +1

    I use a 9,12,15,24,32,44,58,90 and it has really even tension for drop e on a 27" scale 16lbs on plain strings, 19lbs on wound

  • @MaryjaneDaniel
    @MaryjaneDaniel 5 лет назад +2

    13:42 a little bit more djentle

  • @vitordanielriso
    @vitordanielriso 5 лет назад

    Listen to my new album playing 8 string guitars !
    danielrisoguitar.bandcamp.com/album/nonverbal-communication

  • @ronnieolive
    @ronnieolive Год назад

    The point @ 5:50 isn't true... The only time it will ever be "too floppy" is when you're tuned down to E which (despite popular opinion) IS NOT "STANDARD" TUNING... F# is standard, which the .65 that comes from the factory is more than fine with. Its a personal preference, but I absolutely hate anything bigger than .76 on the 8th string, it's too big. Sounds horrible ( I play mostly metal). I specifically order .65 sets for all my guitars because they play and sound better at least to me.

  • @johnkayreactions6963
    @johnkayreactions6963 4 года назад +1

    I have 10-80 heavys on my 8 string and sounds awesome

  • @TelestroArchive
    @TelestroArchive 5 лет назад +1

    few tips on this video: StringJoy is a company that makes completely custom string sets with literally anything you can think of. Also, with the low strings, you can unwrap them to reveal the inner wires or inner coil depending on the gauge, then they'll fit through the peg. :)

  • @manny75586
    @manny75586 4 года назад +2

    Be djentle with that lovely guitar

  • @saintluciaofficial2019
    @saintluciaofficial2019 5 лет назад +3

    One of the best examples of music on a 8 string, Ihsahn's 3rd album "After".

  • @HeyItsKora
    @HeyItsKora Год назад

    Ok, now I may need some expert advice to save my day. I have an 8 string arriving in the mail tomorrow, my first ever non-6 string guitar (yep, straight into the deep end, against all the advice of those wiser than me! hey, look, I wanted a Strandberg with at least 7 strings, and the 2nd hand Strandberg market in the UK is absolutely DRY. it was an 8 string or nothing!)
    I ordered a set of string in advance, my go-to have always been Elixir coated strings as they sound fresh for literally WEEKS if not months. I wasn't aware of the impact that multi-scale has on the string gauge you need, I picked up a set of 0.10 to 0.74, but now I hear that a better recommended set is 0.9 to 0.80, i.e. lower to higher (makes sense now I think about it)
    Have I made a horrible mistake by buying fixed scale length strings for a multi-scale guitar? If so, I won't even try them, I'll return them for a different set. Sucks though because I really love Elixir strings, never ever tried a different brand that comes even close to the longevity of Elixir coated strings (ppl complain about fraying, I have NEVER had that problem)

  • @alecrisser12
    @alecrisser12 4 года назад +1

    My first guitar, is a fixed 27 inch scale Ibanez RG8 1P-05. I can notice slightly the difference in tension between the high string in the low string, although any string on my 8 string is easier to fret than any string on the Washburn I started with. It still has the strings that it came with, and they seem work well with my main play style. I tend to slap the low strings between strumming the high ones. I have a set of light top heavy bottom strings that I plan to try next so I can see what it's like with more equal tension.

  • @Godmil
    @Godmil 6 месяцев назад

    Oh No! I've avoided going below standard E for 25 years, but this video makes it look super fun. Might have to get an 8 String now.

  • @8BitFuture
    @8BitFuture Год назад

    What would be the best scale length for using the Devin Townsend tuning: CGCGCE or BF#BF#BD# ?? Obviously not an 8 string question, but you mentioned scale length and string gauge. I have never been able to wrap my brain around it.

  • @elementsofphysicalreality
    @elementsofphysicalreality 4 года назад +1

    I have a question. How does the scale length affect intonation? For example, is the standard multi-scale length designed for the standard tuning? If I tuned to an open tuning or a dropped tuning, would any of my strings be out of synch?

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 2 года назад +1

    Also the lower strings are often tapered which bypasses the need to have an extra tuner

  • @mateushayasaka
    @mateushayasaka Год назад

    Congratulations on the video. I'm starting in this world of 8 strings. Could you recommend which string tension is best? I thinking start with 10-74. Thank you for the attention.

  • @nisterror
    @nisterror 5 лет назад +3

    "Be djentle with the muting"

  • @hannes1734
    @hannes1734 4 года назад

    Why are 8-string sets so well balanced, but 7-string sets have a weak ass 52 or max 59 B-string? People play that on their acoustic as an E-string. How could anyone justify this? It's just stupid. I have to buy a 10-46 set with an additional 64 B string or something to get a good tension.

  • @DaaMooNVanquish
    @DaaMooNVanquish 5 лет назад +2

    i need too see this 2 years ago

  • @kairofromyt3750
    @kairofromyt3750 5 лет назад +2

    so this cort 8 string is officially out?

  • @basu826
    @basu826 Год назад

    13:38 *DJENT DJENT, DJENT DJENT DJENT* ... "and you have to be.. a little bit more djentle" am I the only one who heard that? lmao

  • @ironrangerw6r1
    @ironrangerw6r1 4 года назад +1

    I own a 7 string bass. And really wish it was a multi scale. Its also hard to find strings for it. There are only a few brands that even make them. And when I do find them. They're like $60 bucks a set. Sweet looking guitar by the way. I really like the finish of that beauty

  • @everythingNotHere
    @everythingNotHere 5 лет назад +1

    Trey you area BEAST and you are not allowed to leave RUclips EVER!
    Er Go Nomics! yes!

  • @TXSNXS-i3t
    @TXSNXS-i3t 11 месяцев назад

    Tune your g down to an F# like a barritione. It makes more sense when playing chord progressions with your low B at the bass. You get cool voicings this way when playing in the higher register as well. Think VOLA tuning just with the extra high e.

  • @Snakeplisskin440
    @Snakeplisskin440 2 года назад

    "You have to start moving closer to the nut."
    "And you have to be a little more gentle with how hard you're palm muting cause if you push to hard on it, the pitch will really go wild."
    There's too much here to take out of context.
    In all seriousness though, good tips. I began with a six string guitar about 20 years ago now. I quit playing a few years ago and kind of got out of metal but it's coming back to me now especially with how the whole deathcore/metalcore scene has evolved.