Douglas DC-4 Plane CRASHES into river near Fairbanks, AK (2 DEAD)
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2024
- 23-APR-2024
A Douglas C-54D-DC Skymaster, operated by Alaska Air Fuel, was destroyed when it crashed into a steep hill on the bank of the Tanana River, about six minutes after takeoff from Fairbanks International Airport (FAI/PAFA), Fairbanks, Alaska.
Both pilots perished.
ADS-B data shows that the airplane was climbing to about 1500 feet before it began a descending left turn towards the river. An online video shows that one of the engines on the left side exploded, followed by the airplane entering a steep left bank less than 10 seconds later.
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Their last transmission is "Tell them I love them ma'am, tell them I love them."
Where is that I didn't hear it?
@@Beltfedshooters Didn't occur. Why do you believe losers on the internet? Why should it matter to you?
@@Beltfedshooters1:48. Damn that’s heavy
@@Beltfedshooters 1:46, it's the last thing he says to ATC before the crash. Its fast but its there.
Oh man i just heard that. Absolutely terrible.
Heartbreaking. The pilot’s voice sounded shaky. Condolences to all those bereaved. And thanks to ATC and others involved in recovery.
I think that was the co-pilot doing the speaking. He first said let's get this thing down in a field, but it looks like they were trying to make it back to the field instead.
I think they lost a prop or a cylinder head and the plane was shaking violently. RIP brother.
Wow, such a tragic incident. personaly knew the pilot in the video, grew up with him all my life. thank you for sharing the video, comforting to know in his final moments he thought of us.
Sorry for your loss. My condolences to you and their families.
Sorry for your loss
whats his name? and how old is
May Jesus comfort you after this terrible loss .
Yeah, those poor guys. It's one thing to have a pilot make a mistake, it is another when the aircraft lets them down.
My good friend and neighbor was supposed to pilot this plane. Last minute change of plans and the flight crew was switched. I almost got to ride on this plane many times. Just never worked out. I learned a lot about history because of this particular airplane. I wish I took him up on the offer to get to ride in one of these. Rest in peace to those who died. Thoughts and prayers to all involved. I’m very lucky to still have a great friend and neighbor
R.I.P. to crew and loved ones such a shame 😿😿😿😿😿
That looked like an explosion of a fuel tank in the left wing behind the engine… the explosion may have taken out the flight controls, leading to an unrecoverable dive.
Looks like they were already in a left turn when the engine grenaded itself. I'm sure it took out there ailerons on that wing when that happened and at such a low altitude I don't think they could have done much more. RIP men.
@@chrisblack2216 That's because the wings are intact. Have you checked your vehicles blinker fluid lately?
Depending how the engine failed they would suddenly be getting a lot drag on that side
@@chrisblack2216 Your point?? Wings don't turn aircraft ailerons do.
My condolences
God bless the crew. My heart goes out to their families.
Brutal. My condolences to the families.
So sad, brings tears to my eyes. We used to live on Chena Pump Road.
May God comfort the families of the two. My sincerest condolences.
Condolences.
FYI, the abbreviation for Alaska is AK. You have AL in the title.
Oh sorry, my mistake. Just corrected. Thank you🙏
Actually title showed AK
@@kay9549 He fixed it Dingus
The funniest part is, we live in the era of digital communication and all, and this aircraft radio shit still sounds like it did in the 1950s....
The Aviation industry hasn't kept pace with the times. Most general aviation aircraft are from the 60s and 70s.
i assume that little blip at 2:03/2:04 on the audio is the explosion....
Somebody at FAA should train controllers not to yammer a flight crew to death, right when they are dealing with an unfolding emergency. If they need the controller's help, they will say so, but in the immediate emergency, the controller should just say, "i'm standing by..." and then just shut up.
I don't know what you're comparing these ATC to, nor do I know if you've ever been under the stress of watching someone die before your eyes, or if you've ever been aboard a craft having an in-flight, but my guess is a solid NO.
This ATC did just fine. There's no evidence the pilots were the least bit negatively affected by ATC.
Remember, there are many times ATC gets a call about a craft having to return to the field, most of the time ATC don't know the condition of the craft until the pilot tells them; and nearly all the time the pilot is able to tell them.
ATC have got obligations and responsibilities, so of course they will communicate. As a pilot, it's then your responsibility to assign priorities to your tasks, and communicating is not your primary task. Flying your aircraft is.
it's the flight crew job and training to fly the airplane, choose an emergency landing spot and troubleshoot, all of that before attempting to communicate with ATC during an emergency, if the pilots reached for ATC is because they either had finished doing all the steps before, or they skipped them.
100%
Basic info ATC needs for an emergency: acft type/callsign, nature of emergency, and pilots desires.
Looks almost impossible to recover from that altitude- within a split second of left engine loss and full power to right engines one would need to have all the stars align at the same time. Valiant effort gentlemen.
Very sad. May the pilots rest in peace.
Wow I am in Fairbanks... I hadn't heard about it... Poor guys! Poor family! Sad day!
You can see what looks like the #1 engine actually falling off the airplane right before impact. Looks like a chunk of the left wing could have come off with it in the explosion.
So sad and tragic...
sad they talked right till the end after looks like the supercharger blew up cut the controls poor guys never had a chance
Anchorage news is reporting that the pilots reported an inflight fire, I think that part at 1:30 that was staticy.
No, it didn't crash into the Tanana River. It crashed close by at the edge of a stand of Sitka Spruce.
I think the unintelligible comment at 1:48 is either "I might not make it" or "I'm not gonna make it" or something to that effect.
"Tell them i love them ma'am, tell them i love them"
That's SAD.. when did this happen?
April 23, 2024 (It's written in the description part)
That was harsh.Very sorry.
Why is it that folks are self designated aviation experts and opine on things they know very little to nothing about. Opinions are just that...opinions. Please have some respect for the surviving families. This aircraft had a maximum gross weight of 66,670 lbs., much lower than the 71,000 lbs. that the military operated them at. Consider that a explosion and resultant fire on any side of the aircraft is going to disrupt the airflow and lift over the affected wing...not withstanding any damage to the control surfaces. The fuel tanks are located within the wing immediate aft of the engines. I have may hours as Pilot in Command in the DC-4 flying wildfires and have "lost" many engines over the 11 years operating the aircraft. The aircraft is a very agile and predictable aircraft. I equate it to a 4-engine Cessna 182. Please reserve judgement until the NTSB Final Report.
My only worry (AF Flight Safety at Elmendorf years ago Hercs and King Airs), is that they got slow while turning back. Fly safe.
dc4 is a garbage
Very sad, people that fly in vintage and complex aircraft should bear this in mind.
That airplanes can fall from the sky? I believe that has probably been gone over.
a truly tragic accident R.I.P
A friend of mine flies DC-4s in Alaska, I'm now really worried, looking for names in the reports
You're always looking for a new bogeyman.
Not many DC-4s to choose from. I believe this one was the only one operated by Alaska Air Fuel.
Damn…
That Pilates needs to fix its radio! 5 miles range and broken/garbled ffs!!
These are absolutely not what the radios sound like to ATC I can assure you that. All these comms online are just from enthusiasts home based scanners.
You won't be fixing it now
Nothing wrong with anyone's radio. All audio comes from 3rd party transceivers.
You just wish they are gonna make it and the title is incorrect.....
Good video. It's unclear when they knew they had a problem and if they kept hte engine running that had a problem. If they did that could have been a fatal mistake. Also there was a lack of urgency in returning unless the plane was so damaged that they couldn't really turn.
What makes you think there wasn't any urgency?
@@andrewalexander9492 didn't turn around for 90 seconds
@@DanFrederiksen 90 seconds from what? in real time, the elapsed time from them transmitting that they were returning to the field, to the last transmission (tell them I love them) was 34 seconds. So when you say "90 seconds" when are you starting that clock?
@@andrewalexander9492 drop in altitude
@@DanFrederiksen So, what was the initial problem at that point. What cockpit indication of the problem did they have? Did it appear to be a problem whcih could be rectified? What steps did they take to rectify that problem before deciding to return to Fairbanks? As far as I know, there are only two people who know the answers to those questions, and they're both dead. And if you don't know the answers to those questions with a high degree of certainty (and you do not) then you're not in a good position to pass judgment on their actions in dealing with whatever they were dealing with. So, putting aside the fact that you don't have anywhere near the information you need to make a judgement on their actions, you're simply wrong about them taking 90 seconds to turn. According to the ADSB track log, at 01:59:08 they were climbing on course (280 degree heading) by 02:00:00 they had already completed 53 degrees of their turn back toward Fairbanks. Assuming a standard rate turn, that means that they began the turn back toward Fairbanks no later than 35 seconds after the earliest point that they stopped climbing.
Losing one engine out of four is not catastrophic! I wonder if it did some kind of damage to the controls!
yepp....................; I had a similar thought
Probably. Remember also that the DC4 is not a nimble craft, was at low altitude, and was heavy.
Yes, but you're also probably right. A control issue where you have time (altitude) is one thing, at 1700ft in a tanker is another.
from what people have made out of the footage the number 1 exploded and got hung up on the leading edge of the wing kind of like asa 529 before it dislodged right before impact
So they were dead in the air? The arrow in the thumbnail confuses me.
What an awful trgedy. RIP
Planes crashing every week now, what's going on!?
We have crashes of some sort up here pretty regular.
Few are fatal and even most of them do not attract Outside interest.
Just a couple days before this someone crashed near Talkeetna. No fatality, it's just Alaska.
We'll get a bunch more soon now that winter is closing, rusty private pilots taking to the air, then we'll get a few more near and at the beginning of moose season...moose stalls, we call them.
It all depends on how much coverage they publish or how much you see. News controls the donkey party this way, selectively omitting or talking something to death
As so many other incidents, politics behind it ??
Nother is going on. You're just now hearing about them on social media. Nothing new here.
@@thefreedomguyuk WTF????????????????? Planes crash kiddo. It happens just lake any other form of transport.
No chance accident. Terrible.
Looks like a VMC roll. First, never turn into into a dead engine. This all happened so fast they may have not sorted that out yet. Juan Brownes' video on this should be out in a few days.
Juans video is already out. The plane didnt lose control until the engine exploded and took everything with it. It departed the wing. I would assume it was uncontrollably at that point. In ATC audio the crew said lets set it down in that field .
@@Darkvirgo88xx Thanks. I'll go watch it now
from what people have made out of the footage the number 1 exploded and got hung up on the leading edge of the wing kind of like asa 529 before it dislodged right before impact
Juan never ever gives an opinion. I stopped watching him.
Not VMC roll, pilot not in control due explosive damage, aircraft just doing it's aerodynamic thing under the circumstances. No harm in turning into dead engine with training and caution.
If one engine goes boom there are still three engines left. Something is missing here.
Were they out of two engines? Did they turn into the dead engine side?
It appears something was happening before that engine blew.
@@kuckoo9036 I know I know. I'm just weirded out by them losing control from the loss of one engine. Seems on the pictures like the wing is still attached but yes, damaged control linkages might have doomed them.
The aircraft is low, slow, and heavy. Losing an outboard engine on a four-engine prop (non-turbine) at that altitude, violently, is very rarely recoverable. Ignoring the damage likely caused by an exploding engine, the loss of power, plus the yawing , tends to hamper stable flight - it would require a very unique set of skills and circumstances to keep the aircraft flying for a return to the field - which is what the crew recognized early with the call to put it down in a field nearby.
Adding the likely catastrophic damage to the wing structure and flight controls due to the engine exploding, the height about the ground when the event occurred, and the stage of flight, this was, most likely, an unrecoverable event. Obviously, an NTSB report has final word, but this doesn’t look like ‘something doesn’t add up’ - it looks exactly what it appears to be; a catastrophic engine explosion on departure while the aircraft was low and slow, and the crew was transitioning in the departure phase to the en route phase of flight.
@@kuckoo9036 I just saw blancolirio has a video on this!
@@arctain1 Yeah, the video blancolirio showed was much better than these stills.
So heartbreaking and tragic for the pilots and their loved ones. I also hope the village counting on the fuel was and is ok. Why are these pilots made to fky old ww2 aircraft in 2024?
I cannot see this as a left engine problem. It appears to me to be a RIGHT engine explosion. If it is a left engne issue, the plane would appear to be inverted when it comes into view. What am I missing?
IT appeared to be the number one engine on the left wing as you can see the flames between the two, and no, he was not inverted though he was pretty close to it when he finally made contact with the ground.
It's plainly a left engine issue. Don't know what video you're watching. Left engine blew and the right engine rolled it TO THE LEFT. Fire is evident as it rolls. Turning left back to the airport was going to be a problem but the sudden explosion at a slow speed might have stalled it. Turning into the good engine is the first thing you need to do.
Then
Mixtures/props/throttles/Identify/verify/feather. My guess is they are not counter rotating props so the Critical engine blew and the right engine, having more adverse P factor rolled the plane over. Those are BIG engines.
Roll is the secondary effect of asymmetric thrust, initial effect is yaw in the direction of the failed engine and if that yaw is left unchecked by rudder application or reduction in thrust on the opposite side then roll follows and the entire thing keeps repeating.
Dude you blind?
Surely if your L/H engine fails you turn right, always keep your good engine below you.
I'm not seeing much explanation as to what happened... that's understandable.
But... I'm also not seeing much speculation as to what happened either. That little explosion looks sus. Is it just me? I'm admittedly no airplane expert, or warfare expert... but that explosion looks 'external'. Like something hit the plane.
Tragic. Rest in peace. This is an opportunity to review engine out procedures. One doesn't have time to fly the plane and read the instructions. This makes me sad.
It didn't appear that they had time to even implement any procedures. The engine blew up and they immediately banked hard left and crashed. Of course they did have some indication of a problem about a minute before the crash. So, maybe they could have shut the engine down before it exploded? But even to do that would have taken a little bit of time. They had to mentally comprehend what was going on and then bring to the forefront of their brain what to do. There wasn't a whole lot of processing time available to them.
That was not just an engine out. Something flat out *Exploded* on that engine. Likely severed aileron cables and God knows what else it did.
Doubt they had time to implement procedures of any kind.
@@davecrupel2817 Yeah, they didn't have much time at all. Something definitely did explode. But in the audio, roughly a minute before the explosion They transmitted on the radio that they were returning to the airport. So they knew there was something going on.
These old planse need to be grounded.
Unbelievable. We had better communication between Houston and Apollo flights at the moon over 55 years ago.
The world needs a dumb comment leaderboard for idiots like you. The communication between ATC and aircraft are much better than what we hear. The communication in the video is being picked up by a 3rd party transceiver probably in someone's backyard or hanger.
Pilot never called a mayday, ATC immediately gave them instructions to get them back to the field and treated it as a mayday call. Props to her
One of the first things you learn in flight school: "Aviate, navigate, communicate" if you miss some calls or something because you're work load is too high flying the plane oh well. Communication here was frankly impressive due to the nature of this incident. Most pilots would have called mayday and that'd be the last thing you heard from em
@@imzanky6321 This. The audio is almost certainly provided by Live ATC, whcih means that it was collected and contributed by a hobbyist with an amateur receiver setup, likely in a less than perfect location, with an antenna on his roof.
The ability of you folks to turn static into a verbal last will and testament is disgusting and disgraceful. You may not have class, but just fake it.
I see nothing crashing on this videos
Adrenalin makes you sound shaky, but it doesn’t mean that they were weak, or not fighting to stay in control. Always be ready to die by placing your trust in the ONLY one to ever defeat death, Christ Jesus. Ask Jesus change your mind about sin (repent), then go and love and serve your neighbor, because He has all of your sins covered and will guide you through your own death to everlasting life of joy and pleasures forevermore.
your thumbnail is $hit, but hey lot's of views am I right 👎
Atc like conducts normal operations ,asks helicopter heading to crash to go overhead field,..bullshit go direct crash site , tell all aircraft to get the hell out of area ...Bullshit on atc ..
this is a real warning. Fracking, which is pet coke, is getting on top of circuit boards, causing short circuits in all electronic boards. Do not fly unless you clean your circuit board electronics/first, then test for hours, all devices are yes, stopping. shorting out. Pet coke contains several non visible metals such as chromium, nickel , zinc, etc etc and the pm is so small on it, it can enter thru your skin into your blood. Or into the contacts on any engine, This is not a joke, and it is not ,meant to make people upset, it is a warning against all fracking dust, and to try to get you not to fly, until you do the right thing. All fracking oil companies should be law suited for this problem with mulitple law suits, This may be the only warning you will get. We are not in aviation, we are normal people that do not put up with bull shit. Very sad, Very sad indeed. That to some people, money is worth more than a soul.
Manned aviation gets worse by the day because the FAA along with the Commercial Drone Alliance is to busy to address deaths and destruction and property damage it is causing to over regulate flying Toys, because the CDA has bought the NAS, so far spending $30+ Billion and estimated to spend $57.8 Billion by 2030....and they have lined the pockets of Politicians in DC to insure that transaction does not get hindered .
Um... no it's not? The trend of accidents has gone down, not gotten worse.
@@FirewallFilms1 I do not know where you have been , but I read almost daily of a aircraft going down in the US. ( not to mention new videos on YT about them also almost daily ) I assume other countries would be worse....
I will only mention a few other issues man aviation is having from near misses, ( also almost daily ) to on ground contact with each other,( also almost daily ) part failures, parts falling off, landing gear missing/failing, workers killed, stuffing animals in over head compartments, pilots raping fellow pilots, pilot shortages, pilot mental and physical issues and buddy that list is almost endless on manned aviation..UNLESS the YT vids and various articles are lies ?
@@FlyingBuzzard I fly, that's where I've been. Just because you're reading more about them doesn't mean they're happening more. All that means is news is more accessible. Of course you're reading about it because plane crashes are, like it or not, news. However your argument doesn't include any actual data. The data is clear, and that's flight safety has increased exponentially in the past three decades. Let's use commercial aviation in the US as an example. In the 1970s, you had 1,647 fatalities between 38 incidents within the US (again only commercial aviation and major freight). Compare that to 2010-2024 where you have 52 fatalities between 15 incidents.
This trend is also mirrored on the General Aviation side of things.
Tell me again how "Manned aviation gets worse by the day"
@@FlyingBuzzard If you think it's bad now then you'd probably have a stroke if you knew how many crashed daily in the late 1900s not to mention much less pilots and aircraft then.
@@FirewallFilms1 Since the Wright brothers of course flight is safer today then back in the beginning and improvements have been made from windscreens, to frame, engines etc etc over the last Century that is a given . BUT if you "think" man aviation is not in decline as of the past couple of decades your head is in the sand.
As I mentioned from equipment failures to pilot errors to mental and physical issues to simple stupidity ranging from pilot arguments with ATC to inept I know it all ones who think the sky and especially the airports are their own personal space.
And I did tell you multiple times about current growing issues...so much so that even Congress addressed those issues with the FAA in the FAA funding meetings on capitol Hill before the FAA Reauthorization Act was passed ( where were you ?)
Fatalities do not always occur in these incidents however the number of various incidents have increased and even YOU know that to be a fact so get your head out and wise up...and I can count the hundreds if incidents most never hear of because most only see it in or on their own local areas IF they get reported at all and many NEVER get reported unless someone dies
I can say the same about auto accidents and issues, one local one near me had multiple explosions and fires and NO media outlet ever mentioned it..did someone die, get harmed, burned up, was it a 18 wheeler, a car ( looked to me through the smoke at a distance it was a mid size panel truck but who knows )? but after contacting 3 news agencies about the incident NONE reported anything about it and local Fire and law enforcement do not release info to Mr Citizen...SO how many aircraft issues have been the same...YOU do not know nor do I , so now wake up and wise up and stop playing the fool.
And FYI you think the FAA, NTSB report and or publish every issue or incident ? [ they do NOT ]Nor does the military who also has a lot of aviation issues , that YOU never hear about and only rarely see reports about and a lot of times because family members mention them NOT the military....grow up and move on
Again, we see an experienced crew turning toward the bad engine. Why is this basic aspect of flying multi-engine aircraft forgotten?
Everyone wants to be the expert. Why do some opine as if they are aviation experts? Airspeed is your friend. I flew DC-4's for many hours fighting wildfires and shut down many engines. Respecting the families, please leave the "guesses to the NTSB final report..
Because that’s not a thing.
@@tcsaviationstudio not an expert but I am a pilot. Not a four engine and I don’t have an ME Rating but I have had multi-engine training and look through RUclips and you’ll see that turns to bad engines at low speed have bad outcomes. Of course I feel bad for those lost, but lessons have to be learned. In the heat of the moment difficult decisions have to be made.
Multiengine training includes maneuvering into bad engine,does not mean you will die. As with any flying one must respect the situation that exists.
@@garymiller5624 agreed but you have the addition of low and slow here. Training does not include maneuvering into the critical engine below VMC. That’s a bad idea.
DC-4 is a garbage
so 744D's buddy just crashed and he couldn't even fly a circle around it to verify what was going on, just 'yup, looks like a plane crashed, laters!'. I'll bet he the same one that see's a crash on the hiway and drives on by without dialing 911
People are worse than animals.
Don’t bee ridiculous. He reported the position. A helicopter was on the way. The Pilatus was inbound for landing and likely too low for that type of maneuvering to be carried out safely.
you are to harsh.....; sorry / first, TWR could have ask the PC-12 crew for that kind of favour; second: it would not have saved a single soul here.
Wow. If you actually knew a damn thing about aircraft or emergencies, you could say something intelligent.
By the way, that was Alaska State Trooper Helo 2 already inbound.
Planes fly with one engines out! More to this story, lack of training on old aircraft.
The engine blew and the plane went in to a left dive. Not sure how you think 'training' was gonna help, especially at that altitude with no room for recovery
yeah piss off with that ignorance. The plane was on fire
These two guys combined have more hours in the air, as well as takeoffs and landings, than probably 90% of all commercial pilots.
Go learn something.
Catastrophic engine failure (that most likely destroyed some controls) at low altitude in a fully loaded radial (not turboprop) tanker.
The only real training that helps in that scenario is how fast you can say an Our Father.
@@buddlybear what do you know about engine failure? Nothing, have you ever lost a engine? What is the procedure, shut down, power? Level nose down, fly the aircraft! What would you do capt?
@@rgarri6396 LOL "what do you know about engine failure? nothing"
RIP😢
how ima gonna get my fuel now?