Josiah Trelawny - The Van Der Linde Gang's Outcast

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  • Опубликовано: 26 мар 2024
  • Josiah Trelawny Dutch's rare and odd exception to what it means to be family and what it means to be loyal to the van der linde gang. Why did Josiah trelawny have such a unique spot in the heart of red dead redemptions most famous narcissist?
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  • @jordanford9320
    @jordanford9320 2 месяца назад +597

    Trelawney reminds me so much of Red Dead redemptions version of Saul Goodman

    • @CheezDoodlezz
      @CheezDoodlezz 2 месяца назад +30

      Josiah Goodman
      Saul Trelawny

    • @AshleysBrother
      @AshleysBrother 2 месяца назад +38

      "Fact is Dutch couldn't have done it without me"

    • @capndikkens5790
      @capndikkens5790 2 месяца назад

      Josiah had good intentions though. He had a family. Saul/Jimmy was just doing it because everything went wrong in his life and the only thing he enjoyed anymore was dressing like an inflatable tube man and cheating the law.

    • @abigailroberts5045
      @abigailroberts5045 2 месяца назад +14

      For me, I think of dr.swultz from Django

    • @andrediaconu2878
      @andrediaconu2878 2 месяца назад +12

      Better Call Trelawny

  • @enigma7310
    @enigma7310 2 месяца назад +485

    *Trelawny was basically the non murdering version of Dutch...*

    • @daviscampbell9020
      @daviscampbell9020 2 месяца назад +20

      I was going to publish a comment but this was too accurate.

    • @daahorse1652
      @daahorse1652 Месяц назад +1

      Well actually- a… ummmmm…. Shit you’re too accurate mate

    • @nahueeiglesias6088
      @nahueeiglesias6088 Месяц назад +7

      I was thinking more like Hosea without guns. Great with his words and an even greater con-man

    • @PufflePufflePuffle
      @PufflePufflePuffle Месяц назад +3

      @@nahueeiglesias6088closer to that, Dutch is psychotic, that trait is his most inprtant trait, trelawny is very elegant.

    • @Ryan_Rants
      @Ryan_Rants 22 дня назад +1

      @@PufflePufflePuffle yeah Trelawny certainly has a more genuine sense of morality and integrity.

  • @itziano
    @itziano 2 месяца назад +407

    This man has a family of his own that’s why he comes and goes during the story. Riding around in Saint Denis you can overhear him having a convo with his fam.

    • @Mr.Capitalism
      @Mr.Capitalism Месяц назад +1

      Really?! Damn that's cool may I ask where and when you get this encounter?

    • @bluesyrupgc4224
      @bluesyrupgc4224 Месяц назад +17

      ⁠@@Mr.Capitalismit’s the apartment right above the E in Denis. You can actually call out to him and he will pretend that you’re an office coworker

    • @Mr.Capitalism
      @Mr.Capitalism Месяц назад

      Nice try, one more question does it happen at any given time?

    • @cloudwalkerCW
      @cloudwalkerCW Месяц назад +3

      @@Mr.Capitalism I went there in Chapter 3 at around 1 am, so yeah, I guess so.
      There‘s a cigarette card too. Don‘t miss it.

  • @bucc9661
    @bucc9661 2 месяца назад +251

    I think one of the reasons Trelawny keeps disappearing from the gang is because he has a family of his own back in Saint Denis to attend to.

  • @bitgoldexpert5014
    @bitgoldexpert5014 2 месяца назад +165

    Trelawny was probably the only person that was allowed to leave the van der linde gang when he pleases because he plans the exact same plans Dutch makes. Both are perfect at seducing others with words. And are obsessed with reckless heists. Take for example the casino boat heist was perfect but there was no escape plan. Leaving poor Strauss to swim back to shore. Reckless behavior Dutch was known for too. Dutch probably has a soft spot for him, because Trelawny offers him exactly what pleases Dutch.

    • @nicoffee777
      @nicoffee777 2 месяца назад +18

      "Leaving poor Strauss had to swim back to shore."
      Nah man fuck Strauss he had it coming just like the death he had

    • @ramblingsofadash5159
      @ramblingsofadash5159 Месяц назад +2

      "Every time we are about to cut him loose, he brings us something good. Must be his special talent. Keeping fish on the line."

  • @yuhaye3986
    @yuhaye3986 2 месяца назад +154

    Trelawny was amazing at planning and setting up robberies but he lacked escape plans, seen mostly during the casino boat heist. Trelawny set up the whole robbery but forgot to think of an escape plan for the gang if things went south

    • @goodgenes0
      @goodgenes0 2 месяца назад +6

      You’re basing that statement off of one standalone event

    • @Hypogean7
      @Hypogean7 2 месяца назад +1

      @@goodgenes0He also got arrested in one of the first Lemoyne missions.

    • @mnk9073
      @mnk9073 Месяц назад +21

      Because Trelawnys heists usually don't go south if he does them properly. On the boat Javier didn't secure the guard he took the uniform from and Arthur didn't thoroughly search the pit boss missing his second gun.
      As for Lemoyne, he was involved in an illegal prospecting enterprise, a crime so whitecollar it would have barely resulted in a fine had the Sheriff not just let him go out of gratitude to Arthur.

    • @Poja_0811
      @Poja_0811 19 дней назад

      ​@@goodgenes0 arthur himself said it, i don't remember the exact place but it was during the same mission as he forgot a escape plan

  • @mnk9073
    @mnk9073 Месяц назад +35

    Trelawny is the single criminal with a brain in the whole game. He actually plans and doesn't just constantly spouts about having a plan, he robs without people even knowing they got robbed, he puts his earnings to good practical use, has a working façade as an upstanding member of society and his pull-out game is world class.
    He's got the cunning Dutch wishes to have, the charm and eloquence Hosea probably once had and the patience and self control Mikah so desperately lacks.

  • @thickt
    @thickt 2 месяца назад +64

    Dutch's voice when he tells the story about trelawny is hilarious

  • @lewisjohnston7077
    @lewisjohnston7077 2 месяца назад +118

    One of the most interesting characters on the game. Also a peaceful man.

  • @axelchampagnac2991
    @axelchampagnac2991 2 месяца назад +40

    I loved Trelawny, I was so sad when he left.....😢❤.

  • @keecko8169
    @keecko8169 2 месяца назад +18

    Josiah Trelawny might be more strange to us then any other gang member, but my god he has an amazing mustache.

  • @Jackal-xc9sw
    @Jackal-xc9sw 2 месяца назад +81

    I'm glad Trelawny made it out alive

    • @bigrigjoe5130
      @bigrigjoe5130 2 месяца назад +22

      You just made me imagine a deleted scene at the end of RDR1 where he just pops up when Jack is looking for Ross and is like "Oh hello there Jack!"

    • @IrisWasTaken1
      @IrisWasTaken1 2 месяца назад +6

      @@bigrigjoe5130imagine if at the end of American venom he just appeared out of nowhere and was like “bro micah just died!”

    • @Glassenjoyer.
      @Glassenjoyer. 2 месяца назад +12

      ​Imagine if when Arthur is dying on the mountain, Trelawny comes out and says "Oi, you alright, lad?"

    • @siyacer
      @siyacer Месяц назад +3

      "You've forgotten far more important things than me"

    • @reebass
      @reebass Месяц назад

      ​@@siyacertrelawny and the strange man aren't the same person

  • @Venomsmex
    @Venomsmex 2 месяца назад +29

    Him and the gang have a symbiotic relationship. Trelawny himself can't pull off half of the scores he finds without the gang, and the gang can't find the type of scores Trelawny does. That's there main connection, and yes there is an obvious from of kinship with him and the gang like you mentioned in the video. However if were to compare the gangs relationship with themselves, they serve as immediate family, brothers and sisters. I'd say Trelawny is more akin to the gang as a "Cousin", that being he's apart of the family just not a close member of it.

  • @15braincellsremaining
    @15braincellsremaining Месяц назад +4

    “Sometimes months would go by without trelawney returning”
    My Arthur: that’s cute

  • @levilandes1719
    @levilandes1719 Месяц назад +13

    Pfft, Trelawny is one of only five people in that camp I'd trust at my back, he may be shifty, but he's loyal and has more courage and ingenuity than he's credited with. In case anyone is curious, the other ones are Charles, Sadie, John, and Mrs. Grimshaw. In that order.

  • @ZeroVodac119
    @ZeroVodac119 2 месяца назад +20

    I thought the views said 4 Million views, I was like damn people love Trelawny

    • @pokebub367
      @pokebub367 2 месяца назад +6

      Everyone does love trelanwny

  • @greenpenguin4814
    @greenpenguin4814 2 месяца назад +7

    i wish we could meet trelawney in the epilogue

  • @billiem2372
    @billiem2372 2 месяца назад +32

    When I was a kid playing rdr2 for the first time, I thought Trelawny was just Dutch doing a voice

  • @abigailroberts5045
    @abigailroberts5045 2 месяца назад +19

    When going through the game with trelawny I always thought of dr.swultz from Django. A smooth talker, and if you analyze both of their mannerisms, personality, and the theatrical appeal, you'd never assume they're in the deadly lifestyle of dealing with the law( both involved but on opposite sides). I'd like to think rockstar got their inspiration from dr.swultz

  • @realdaggerman105
    @realdaggerman105 Месяц назад +4

    They keep him around because Hosea, Dutch and Arthur all have bets on what his accent is, and he hasn’t slipped up yet.

  • @mouldygolem4493
    @mouldygolem4493 2 месяца назад +5

    This Song from the Doors Explains Trelawny better then anything
    People are strange
    When you're a stranger
    Faces look ugly
    When you're alone
    Women seem wicked
    When you're unwanted
    Streets are uneven
    When you're down
    When you're strange
    Faces come out of the rain
    When you're strange
    No one remembers your name
    When you're strange
    When you're strange
    When you're strange

  • @Brickcenter1932
    @Brickcenter1932 2 месяца назад +27

    Trelawney is underrated

  • @Tinbot2
    @Tinbot2 2 месяца назад +5

    I think there was mutual respect between the gang and Trelawny. But they both lacked trust, the gang had suspicions of him, and he hid his family in saint denis from the gang

  • @Swackettonk
    @Swackettonk Месяц назад +2

    "a WHHHaaat?" lol I love Arthur

  • @just_joonster1784
    @just_joonster1784 2 месяца назад +24

    Trelawny, he's a strange man...

    • @MannequinMonarch
      @MannequinMonarch 2 месяца назад +7

      But there ain’t no way he’s THE Strange Man. That or he had a major accent change, and John has dementia.

  • @PFGFrankly
    @PFGFrankly 2 месяца назад +11

    well huim and authur, the gang knows that authur go out for long periods, as he is a adventurer

  • @greyblenaut
    @greyblenaut 2 месяца назад +4

    Josiah is super underrated, I was a fan as soon as I heard that one line "and miss all this glamor??" while Arthur is covered in sopping wet mud after a fist fight

  • @JackContraband
    @JackContraband 2 месяца назад +3

    I've viewed him as what Dutch always wanted to be: a true gentleman who had a plan.

  • @user-xx4zt5wx3y
    @user-xx4zt5wx3y 2 месяца назад +8

    he was smarter than the gang

  • @Chreegally9
    @Chreegally9 Месяц назад

    Great video never thought about trelawney’s significance like that

  • @cjaydustie1867
    @cjaydustie1867 2 месяца назад +1

    I love this channel

  • @Vampcamp993
    @Vampcamp993 2 месяца назад

    Bruh the background music for the video makes me Def wanna rest by the fire

  • @velocity7786
    @velocity7786 Месяц назад +1

    Trelawny’s voice reminds me of darkviperau

  • @ThomasGamble-bn4bb
    @ThomasGamble-bn4bb 2 месяца назад +2

    The fact that people are still making RDR2 videos is a testament to rockstars superior game design.

  • @hillbillyhipster84
    @hillbillyhipster84 Месяц назад

    He’s my favorite non Arthur character in the gang.
    Gosh we needed more from him.

  • @user-ph9bg9rf2s
    @user-ph9bg9rf2s 2 месяца назад

    NEW CYNIC VID 💗work gon be bearable 💗

    • @user-ph9bg9rf2s
      @user-ph9bg9rf2s 2 месяца назад +1

      i love how he speaks he seems like such a nice guy

  • @Genrevideos
    @Genrevideos 2 месяца назад +1

    What is also interesting is how Trelawny will never really shut up and runs the risk of running his mouth if he gets caught but what’s interesting is what he was doing the year before Red Dead Redemption 2 takes place. Red Dead online takes place a year before the events of the game and Trelawny could be seen frequently in front of the Fence near Rhodes. Often offering work to the silent protagonist (RDO player) work in regard to rob stagecoaches and things of that nature. If anything the reason why Josiah asked Arthur and Charles to bring him back to Rhodes is because he probably planning on doing it again. This is also taking into consideration that the train station depot clerk in Rhodes has also offered dirty work for Arthur in the same town. Makes you wonder…

  • @NitroxCZ
    @NitroxCZ 2 месяца назад +23

    22 seconds after posting. lol.

    • @user-hu7gp8fy6b
      @user-hu7gp8fy6b 2 месяца назад +1

      Too slow iam 20.69

    • @NitroxCZ
      @NitroxCZ 2 месяца назад

      @@user-hu7gp8fy6b no way

  • @blahblahgdp
    @blahblahgdp Месяц назад +1

    Bro looks like the strange man

  • @keithhightower646
    @keithhightower646 25 дней назад +1

    Trelawny is to the gang what Nigel West Dickens was to John in part one. An associate who likely helped with scams and schemes over the years when they needed someone with a bit more finesse than their typical brute force methods would allow for. Not part of the gang, but an ally nonetheless. Like how you're friends aren't necessarily family.

  • @colegano7443
    @colegano7443 2 месяца назад +1

    Could you do a more in-depth look at Sean? I loved him and his character when he died I was heartbroken

  • @angelparrilla2068
    @angelparrilla2068 2 месяца назад +2

    Trelawny was like.... the Gang's only way of being able to get to tahiti or just change their identies and having land to live or whatever. Specially with 10s of thousands of dollars i gave in camp funds.

  • @Justanotheruser-vu6tf
    @Justanotheruser-vu6tf 2 месяца назад +5

    Such a strange Man...

  • @loglad5394
    @loglad5394 27 дней назад

    Best Call for Josiah!

  • @SkrapMetal84
    @SkrapMetal84 2 месяца назад +6

    i feel like you should talk about the plot holes in this game one that always got to me was Arthur's tuberculosis, do you realise just how contagious that is? everyone that Arthur shook hands with or coughed around would have caught it.

    • @dahken417
      @dahken417 2 месяца назад +8

      In real life, Doc Holiday spent tons of time around the Earp brothers and their families. Not a single one of the people that survived the mess in Tombstone caught it.

    • @dahken417
      @dahken417 2 месяца назад +4

      Doc Holiday, a real life gunslinger who had the disease and died of it, spent a ton of time around the Earp brothers and their families. None of them caught it.

    • @Pantsinabucket
      @Pantsinabucket 2 месяца назад

      TB lies dormant in most people that have it. And even when you do get active TB, that’s usually something that occurs after years of it being dormant. Since RDR2 is contained entirely within spring-fall 1899, Arthur simply couldn’t have caught TB from Downes and gotten fatally ill from it in that time span.

  • @cesarlinares6156
    @cesarlinares6156 Месяц назад

    I loved trelawny his goodbyes hurt my heart I wish there was an option to give him some money and send him on his way

  • @tsunamitodd5131
    @tsunamitodd5131 2 месяца назад +1

    Back to back video days🔥

  • @braveboy1
    @braveboy1 Месяц назад

    I think Trelawney is the mystery man in RDR 1, they look just as the same character, and they both show up in mysterious ways.

  • @scarface406
    @scarface406 2 месяца назад +2

    Idk why but I love trelawny

  • @Ryan_Rants
    @Ryan_Rants 22 дня назад

    The man is a literal magician!

  • @silentfox1738
    @silentfox1738 Месяц назад

    theres a big difference between john and trelawny. trelawny collects knowledge for them while he's out, and the more successful robbery attempts are because of him. he is a valuable asset to dutch and the rest of the gang. john tried to run away from his problems, and his duties as a father and as a gun man of the van der linde gang.

  • @ozero00rockon
    @ozero00rockon 2 месяца назад +4

    Trelawny would be my third favorite character given he always attempted to avoid leaving a trail of bodies unalived unlike the other members. His cunning and marvelous efforts at entertainment was to better the gang at being able to steal without problems.

    • @puhffy
      @puhffy Месяц назад

      Unalived really

    • @ozero00rockon
      @ozero00rockon Месяц назад

      @@puhffy Habit of mine

  • @notgoingtotellyoumyname2203
    @notgoingtotellyoumyname2203 Месяц назад +1

    Am I the only one that thinks Trelawny looks like the strange man

    • @notgoingtotellyoumyname2203
      @notgoingtotellyoumyname2203 Месяц назад

      And yes I know they aren’t the same person since the strange man’s house is available in red dead redemption

  • @NielsMulvad
    @NielsMulvad Месяц назад

    His role was akin to the women of the camp. He worked and earned with them, but he was not a fighter. (and that is not a slight towards him)
    Ms.Grimshaw pulled a gun, and was ready to fight, and for that she died. But the non combatants is the ones that got away. (mostly)
    Look at Swanson and Pearson. The ones that had or was willing to get blood on their hands seems to be the ones that was taken out.

  • @prod.purpl333
    @prod.purpl333 2 месяца назад

    20 sec is crazy

  • @RiverLiddell
    @RiverLiddell 2 месяца назад +6

    Second, Trelawney is my fav "member" of the gang

  • @justinbieber8028
    @justinbieber8028 Месяц назад

    Seems like trelawny is more so a friend of the gang rather than a bonafide member. That’s why he’ll work with the gang and spend time with them but doesn’t actually live with them full time.

  • @AxeMurderer2222
    @AxeMurderer2222 Месяц назад

    He had the highest $/heat ratio of any gang member.

  • @raulsilva2720
    @raulsilva2720 Месяц назад

    Isn't that the mysterious man from Red dead 1?

  • @izzym4318
    @izzym4318 Месяц назад

    I love trelawny need a trelawny dlc

  • @itsvonte8893
    @itsvonte8893 2 месяца назад

    Question I always had was were was trelawny at during the black water massacre I don’t think he ever spoke about once in rdr2

    • @DanX2Malt
      @DanX2Malt 2 месяца назад +1

      he wasn't there since he was in black water after it to see all the wanted posters

  • @user-gi8et5yb3q
    @user-gi8et5yb3q Месяц назад

    "how to get a hair cut, how to present himself" your character with a foot long beard, and unpomaded hair.

  • @dmilla78
    @dmilla78 2 месяца назад

    I wonder if Dutch knows he has a whole family in Saint Denis lol

  • @izzym4318
    @izzym4318 Месяц назад

    What if red dead 3 was about trelawnys story omg that would be amazing

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 Месяц назад

    Lore of Josiah Trelawny - The Van Der Linde Gang's Outcast momentum 100

  • @l.o.w.o
    @l.o.w.o Месяц назад

    Yeah

  • @Vampcamp993
    @Vampcamp993 2 месяца назад

    N ironically he really didn't talk

  • @isaiahmiller9142
    @isaiahmiller9142 2 месяца назад +3

    Trelawny's revolver is in the game files.

  • @emptyarthaus9535
    @emptyarthaus9535 Месяц назад

    Trelawney was one of my favorites. I was glad he made it out of that mess alive. Hes just such a likeable little cockroach.

  • @PopularGym29
    @PopularGym29 2 месяца назад +5

    Holy crap I’ve never been this early it’s been 2 minutes

  • @filipe7360
    @filipe7360 Месяц назад

    most based member along with uncle

  • @Yeongboemkim365
    @Yeongboemkim365 2 месяца назад

    For some reason that "what" from Arthur during the intro killed me 😂

  • @hillbillyhipster84
    @hillbillyhipster84 Месяц назад

    I have my own theories about his past and the whole “family” thing, which feels super fake when you hear it.

  • @claude_von_riegan653
    @claude_von_riegan653 2 месяца назад +2

    Shocking i am hear early

  • @ungenbunyon5548
    @ungenbunyon5548 2 месяца назад +1

    His voice always reminds me of tom hardys bane

  • @caspertheghost42069
    @caspertheghost42069 2 месяца назад

    i love trelawny sm

  • @Patrick-wl6pw
    @Patrick-wl6pw 2 месяца назад

    Love him characters

  • @knightingale9833
    @knightingale9833 2 месяца назад +2

    I wouldn’t really call him a member of the gang so much as an ally

    • @robocu4
      @robocu4 2 месяца назад +7

      Ally, member, they're really not that different, Trelawny just doesn't really stay with them because he's more useful out and about

    • @Dragoncam13
      @Dragoncam13 2 месяца назад +3

      Pretty much an associate

    • @lewisjohnston7077
      @lewisjohnston7077 2 месяца назад +1

      He was great with gathering information for the gang.

  • @NitroxCZ
    @NitroxCZ 2 месяца назад +1

    actually the first one

  • @cheeseface4113
    @cheeseface4113 2 месяца назад

    yo
    im early

  • @jacquelinetelfer9257
    @jacquelinetelfer9257 2 месяца назад

    Watching this early

  • @uhhcallmejefe
    @uhhcallmejefe 2 месяца назад

    Ok

  • @BlankGamer594
    @BlankGamer594 2 месяца назад

    11 minutes

  • @tomhanks1769
    @tomhanks1769 2 месяца назад

    Would make a really cool protagonist if they ever make Red Dead Redemption 3. 😎

  • @wolfiewolfdog9771
    @wolfiewolfdog9771 2 месяца назад +1

    Why does he look identical to the Strange Man

    • @johnaustin209
      @johnaustin209 2 месяца назад +3

      He doesn't. Get your eyes checked.

  • @donviglone7707
    @donviglone7707 2 месяца назад

    Trelawny is the Strange Man!!!
    (Jk ofc)

  • @Howitzer_Hill
    @Howitzer_Hill 2 месяца назад

    I want RDR3 to be a prequel to RDR2

    • @johnaustin209
      @johnaustin209 2 месяца назад

      Who gives a f*** what you want...

    • @exceppi1477
      @exceppi1477 2 месяца назад +2

      @@johnaustin209ooh well hard mate

    • @johnaustin209
      @johnaustin209 2 месяца назад

      @@exceppi1477 Who tf asked you anything? 🤣

    • @exceppi1477
      @exceppi1477 2 месяца назад +1

      @@johnaustin209RUclips shorts kid

    • @johnaustin209
      @johnaustin209 2 месяца назад

      @@exceppi1477 Riiiiight.

  • @Bubbaspiff
    @Bubbaspiff Месяц назад

    All your videos ask a question, ramble about nonsense, and don’t answer the question you asked.