Arthur simply turns into Hosea. Hosea knows his time is short and his only concern is making sure others will be taken care of or able to take care of themselves when he is gone. Arthur shows this understanding when he takes Jack fishing and says by learning to fish you can feed yourself. Arthur understands the best he can do with the time left is to help as any people as he can live happy long lives.
@DRourkey These probably aren't the exact words but, it was roughly; Arthur: "Always playin' some damn game" John: "Playin' games? I'm not the one taking Jack on fishin' trips!" Arthur: "Yeah! *You* ain't!"
Charlotte and hamish was my favorite people Arthur met it feels like Arthur slowly but surely turns into hosea instead of the weapon Dutch wanted him to he for the gang
@@Yes-Man1337 in the epilougue, I was riding with rachel (John's Horse) it died and I didn't have any Horse revivers so I used the method where you load the autosave but I got some random other horse so Rachel was lost forever😢
Just breaks my heart how much Arthur hates himself with almost being disgusted by compliments, especially cause I can relate to the self loathing a lot
Me to brother me to, in the pass when I get a thank u from my friends for saying I helped them I jus t shrug it of sayin no u did it I’m just here that’s all. Or my family thanking me or complaining me I’m like no not really I’m just doing my thing idk I just couldn’t accepted compliments how I was raised growing up I wasn’t complimented a lot or should that much love my dad and step-mom raised me rough and they favored my brothers so when I get a compliment or show of love I just didn’t know how to act but now I’m getting better and taking it since I moved with my mom 2 years ago
Arthur and Charlotte saved each other. Arthur saved her life by teaching her to care for herself after her husbands death. Charlotte saved Arthur's soul by making it clear that he was a changed man, a redeemed man, a truly good man like he always was deep down. Helping Charlotte and his decision to save John are what let Arthur die in good faith.
I always wondered if she ever went to Annesburg for ammo and by chance picked up a newspaper and learned about Arthur's past or learned it some other way. I wished John would've told her Arthur's story.
As cool as Sadie is she let her anger take over and she went tunnel vision on getting revenge on Michael and the o driscos after she got revenge I’m she doesn’t have anything to do or other skills so she’s just trying to get her self killed in a gun fight or something with the way she’s just stabbing random people
@@Snowy517 sadie and charlotte are two sides of the same coin when it comes to grief. Sadie was determined to avenge her husband and charlotte was determined to thrive in the life they lived
@@theoutsiderjess1869 Vengeance is a luxury we can't afford, and when you look at all the unneeded fighting and trouble Sadie caused the gang, I'd say she should've paid more attention to that teaching
@@LudicrousChrisI think Sadie solved all the problems she caused herself, with the help of Arthur, but she never caused the gang major problems, not to my knowledge
PS- It's also hilarious that John Marston, the person who "has a chance to have a real life", goes on to burn down villages in Mexico, and skins horses, dogs, mules, donkies, etc., and makes little snide comments about how his prey "stinks" or tells dead things to "lie still." These are probably my favorite two games ever; but I can't deny the Rdr1 Marston is an f-ing maniac. Even in his cutscenes...dude...his eyes are bulging out. Everywhere he goes, everyone knows his name. He kind of screwed up Arthur's plan for the Marston's. Also- the scene where Jack skins his first animal...and his face literally turns into the Marston scowl...damn, son.
It’s funny because most people try and give Arthur a high honor ending because they care for his character and it’s what he would want, but then you get to even the epilogue in this game and just let loose with every evil thing you’ve held back for the last fifteen or so hours of playing. It’s like Arthur sacrificed himself for John and unleashed an unhinged maniac on the people of new Austin. Oh well
Yep, John wasn't a bandit outlaw in rdr1, he was a gunslinger, an assassin masquerading as a bounty hunter. From his dialogue it was implied that he had experience as a ruthless member of an irredeemable gang led by a man so maniacally charismatic that he was practically a cult leader. I'll never forget my disappointment at seeing John do literally nothing the entire rdr2 except wear a goofy hat and be a deadbeat dad. He totally should've been Dutch's right hand man who Micah tries to supplant, and Arthur stands by John and gives John a second chance for his family by killing Micah when the gang fell apart.
in my most recent playthrough, she died to a wolf and my last save was hours ago so I took her body next to her husbands, I wanted to bury her. I cried as I rode away on my horse.
Charlotte is my favourite side mission character, partly because she actually improved and got self-sufficient after getting some help. But how about that creepy stalker of hers that you can run into? I did terrible things to that guy....
I've always wondered if Arthur immediately took his illness seriously and rested. If he could have beat it. Tuberculosis had a very high death rate, but it wasn't impossible to survive.
Its about 60% without proper treatment. He could have survivied but even if he did it would have had other affects on him. He would have been a shell of himself.
He caught it 24 years before a treatment was created. If he had of left and went someplace with cool and dry air like Colorado he might have been able to get 6 to 10 years more but still would have died of it. But the death would have been slower and a lot more painful. Him not stopping to rest often and the beatings he took as well as the amount of time he got soaked by rain and river water and the final fight with Micah are what compounded his quicker death. the time spent on Guarma in humidity and more fighting and beatings was also a factor in Arthur dying quicker than a normal TB Patient.
I wonder how Charlotte felt about Arthur after he dies, cause im sure it wouldve hit the news that the Outlaw known as Arthur Morgan with a $5K+ turned up dead after Dutch’s Boys fell out, with his picture on the paper. I know if you visit her with John she remembers him fondly but she doesnt say much so we may not know the full story.
After the first few times I played RDR2, I wished Arthur and Charlotte could be a fully fleshed out love story. But nowadays, in consideration of Arthur's TB and the story significance of how fragile and temporary life is, and how consequences can't be escaped, I guess it's fitting Arthur just helps her a few times and it doesn't go further. In another life, maybe, but Arthur's present life is too close to its end.
I love it how Rockstar even took people with decent german to voice such small roles, almost sounding like native speakers, and from what I know, the Father's speaker at least is from german origin.
I think she’s a reminder to Arthur of what’s important in his last days on earth. Leaving something behind better than how you found it. To save who you can and try to pass on what you know. He didn’t get a chance to do that with his own child but he was able to teach the widow and save John. He left a legacy worth remembering
Unrelated by i like Arthur's attitude towards people in the wild like how with William he's just there looking at all his stuff; picking at all his ground flowers in the mortar; lifting the cage doors to look inside the cage wagons with Margrette, i love it, he's just so non-chalant about people
Holy shit, watching these vids has made me realize ive missed so much in this game and ive played it up to the epilogue the first time and im pretty far through my second playthrough. Im gonna have to fuckin play it again and try to TRULY explore this game.
Exactly, I like to run around the map and spend day and night going through the towns and woods. Go looking for things to do. After that then do a main mission and repeat map running. There's a lot of cool little things. Especially at night in the mountains
Arthur is definitely a good man and this is shown in the final chapter. He is a dead man walking and he knows that, yet instead of just laying down to die or feeling bitter and becoming vengeful, he chooses to go out of his way to help people. He's still very pragmatic in the way he does this but he realises that his life is done, but he can give others the chance to live their's. The fact that he chooses redemption just shows how much he's grown and how much he's willing to sacrifice to save other people. How ever you look at it, this alone reveals a truly selfless individual, which just goes to show his complexity as a character
Even is Arthur decided to run away with Mary or someone else like Charlotte he was 24 year away from a viable treatment for TB if he had of headed for some place dry and cool like Colorado he would have only had 6 to 10 years left that is if he took it easy and rested. However we all know taking it easy is not something Arthur does even if he's sicker than a mangey dog.
tb can remain dormant for years, even forever if your immune sistem doesnt get low. Arthur getting septic wound and stressing on guarma cliamte awaken the dormant illens. if none of that happened he would have never get sick.
Aside from Arthur's main redemption with the gang and John...this arc with Charlotte was a major turn in the way Arthur had grown and developed. This was my favorite side story.
To me it’s Arthur’s closure, it tells himself he isn’t a bad man, and he builds a meaningful relationship that allowed him to see that he intentionally has forever positively impacted someone’s world, it was the official turning point in himself of knowing he’s not doing it circumstantially, but out of his own will.
Wholesome side events! Deliver some good and genuine moments between two people in this state of the story. She would have been the „realer“ or „better“ Mary for him who only doubted him (perhaps rightfully so at that time) but the on the other hand met at very different state of theirs lifes…
In a way the greatest in his life thus far. True love is wanting the ultimate good for the other, and one demonstrates it through the sacrifice of self for the betterment of the other. Arthur gave what Charlotte needed to live the rest of her days with all he had learnt. All with what little time he had left and wanted nothing in return.
@@thepoetandwit6513Charlotte was also super rich, she offered Arthur TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS after his tb fit, which you can decline, but she insists its alright ( I also think it's the highest amount of money you can refuse in the game) So yeah, she definitely adored him, romantically or otherwise giving him back so much for what he did. I bet if Arthur didn't get TB, they would've lived their lives happily together, right in front of Cal's ghost.
I loved charlotte she was a great character in RDR2. I think the reason why Arthur helped her is because they both have something in common like losing someone that they cared about, how they wanted survive in a world where it is difficult, and many others. Also helping Charlotte to survive made Arthur more human with compassion. I had wished that she could have been more featured in the game. Also I like on how she isn’t judgmental on Arthur
Charlotte and Arthur kind of mirrors the first encounter with Sadie Addler but are some differences but Arthur did help Sadie but with Charlotte he set her on a path to survive on the frontier. This was amazing I love the content
I honestly wonder if Rockstar has a statistic of how many players have runs where Charlotte is dead, or was never even talked too. It feels like they intentionally put her cabin in the most northern point so people who don't explore much don't even find her.
I actually loved this interaction with Charlotte. I normally play all my characters more lightside. It's a shame that she just disappears and the house goes back to being locked up after the third interaction.... Then the same in epilogue.
I always loved this interaction. I liked to pretend that she would’ve become his girlfriend if he had time and health. She was a decent woman. The kind Arthur liked. His girl Mary was a saint. Compared to the woman at camp. And I believe that Charlotte had those qualities Arthur liked.
I believe I’ve watched nearly every vid, not sure if you have or not, would be interested in seeing a theories full video of your opinions.. love your work, rock on!🤘
Arthur doesn't have a negative opinion of himself. He is self aware. He knows he's not a good man, 9 times out of ten, any good he does is for payment. At least in the beginning. Eventually, he starts acting more selfless, but outside of stranger missions, the storyline shows him to be a violent killer, with little remorse, if any. It isn't until the gang starts to crumble that he starts changing. However, the true turning point is when he becomes aware of his death sentence. Faced with his own mortality, he starts to reflect on his life, and the story takes a turn towards Arthur trying to do something, in his eyes, that matters.
And realize that after Arthur's diagnosis, he's accepted that he's going to hell for what he's done. Meaning he's not seeking redemption, he recognizes wrong for wrong, and strives to make it right. Which is great, because if he was seeking redemption, he'd no longer be acting selflessly.
In my last playthrough I wanted to see what would happen if you help Charlotte with hunting as Arthur but come back as John to teach her how to use the rifle. I entered the house and I found her skeleton lying on the floor. I stood there for a couple of minutes
It's amazing how many people say Arthur is a good man. Don't get me wrong I love his character and also love RDR, both my favorite protagonist and favorite game, but he isn't a good man. Even outside our control Arthur killed God knows how many people and he can never be a good person, but he does try to redeem himself in the end with some success.
I think Charlotte might've gotten TB as well. When arthur passes out he coughs a lot and it probably 'hit' charlotte also she kissed him and he used her dishes and she had to carry him to the bed
That's absolutly not true, not to mention that the early chapter choices ALL make low honor more sense like him not wanting to help the family moving camp, him beating people up for loans and being mad for helping John, kiIIing hundreds of people. He only way high honor makes sense is in chapter 6.
7:55 - I see what you're saying what with Charles teaching him with the bow, but if you're a player like me, you never use the bow. I always main the B.A.R or the trapdoor gun. Small game is always the varmint rifle
i think channels like yours show how awesome it could be if rockstar could bring us a rpg style game filled with different storylines and rich with lore, similar to a bethesda title like TES or fallout. They already do so good with missable content in their story driven games that i think they would kill the rpg genre.
You can find Charlotte still there as john and you can inform her that arthur passed john aeven mentions that Arthur wrote quit nicely about her in his journal
I wasn't sure what would happen if I aimed a gun at her whilst the hunting was happening, and she started screaming and ran away so now in the epilogue she doesn't spawn😭
A real cool fact that makes for a cool head canon is that one of the founding fathers of the mexican mafia in america was a white male called Joe "Pegleg" Morgan, I always love to think in my own headcanon that he was Arthur's grandson and Arthur never knew about him. Mary and Eliza surely weren't the only women that Arthur slept with and back in those times it was very easy to get pregnant so it makes a lot of sense.
(Spoiler) One moment that felt sad in rdr2 for me was when the Old Veteran That lives Next to O Creaghs run get attacked by a boar And in his last seconds he tells you to take His horse buell He was my only horse i didnt race off a cliff or get shot dead I kept him until the final So when Your random tennese Walker dies It hit hard for Me seeing the veterans horse die
I'd like to think arthur could have stayed with her if he got out of the gang life and survived, sure he might not have had much time left but i think it would have been nice for a time.
I'll give you the simple answer. For the good left undone and remember Hosea's story about his wife? I'm guessing that correlation of the two made him realize what was right.
does anyone know the background music he uses in these videos? i know it’s some ambient music from rdr2 but i don’t know the name, nor the mission that it’s from
@@ggeronimo4412 yeah I know about that but sometimes asexual people still have sexually active past and his love towards Mary seems to be romantic but platonic
@@magnum675 his love for mary isnt platonic but they both know if they started back up again it would end bad. Mary is sad that Arthur didnt leave that life for her and Arthur is sad that he still wants her but now not only is it too late for him to be with her he is working against time to get members of the gang out and safe with his withering health.
Get a fuckin attention span. Christ, it's a 16 minute video with a short preamble to establish how seemingly insignificant side quests can point to larger themes in the over all plot
Arthur simply turns into Hosea. Hosea knows his time is short and his only concern is making sure others will be taken care of or able to take care of themselves when he is gone. Arthur shows this understanding when he takes Jack fishing and says by learning to fish you can feed yourself. Arthur understands the best he can do with the time left is to help as any people as he can live happy long lives.
"You took my kid fishing"
"Yeah, I took him. Didn't I?"
Don't remember the exact quote, but he was passing the lesson onto John
@DRourkey These probably aren't the exact words but, it was roughly;
Arthur: "Always playin' some damn game"
John: "Playin' games? I'm not the one taking Jack on fishin' trips!"
Arthur: "Yeah! *You* ain't!"
If you say the boy ain’t yours what’s the difference! You’d probably only run off again
@@capndikkens5790Roastedddddd😂
@@DRourkey he asks john why he didn't
I like how caring the German family was despite having the language barrier with Arthur Morgan.
Germans in 1899: 🥰
A few decades later:💀
@@warpdarkmatter stoopp 🤣
@@warpdarkmatterI see no difference
@@warpdarkmatter Gremans after 1945:🍺🥰
I‘ve always seen helping Charlotte as a crucial part of Arthur’s redemption.
I never saw it as his redemption the debt collection stuff sure but with charlotte it feels like it shows who he truly is as a person
Charlotte and hamish was my favorite people Arthur met it feels like Arthur slowly but surely turns into hosea instead of the weapon Dutch wanted him to he for the gang
I felt so sad when hamish died and unfortunetaly his horse despawned after I looked away
@@Yes-BeanI setup camp & tried to fast travel with Buell one playthrough. Forgot I had to put my saddle on him, gone forever 😢
@@Yes-Man1337 in the epilougue, I was riding with rachel (John's Horse) it died and I didn't have any Horse revivers so I used the method where you load the autosave but I got some random other horse so Rachel was lost forever😢
Kind of wish Hamish didn't die, so Arthur could have him keep an eye on Charlotte after he died as a favor or something.
i never go back after the quest where you go fishing with him, that way he lives
What I love about Charlotte's sidequest is: Arthur chooses to help, there is no X to accept or O to reject for the player to choose.
Exactly. Arthur is his own person outside of what we make him do. Q lot of players would ditch tue gang given the chance,but Arthur would never
I loved that John could visit her and see her thriving that Arthur helped someone survive and do well for themselve
Yeah but be sure you finish all of her missions first. I found her dead in my last playthrough
Just breaks my heart how much Arthur hates himself with almost being disgusted by compliments, especially cause I can relate to the self loathing a lot
Me to brother me to, in the pass when I get a thank u from my friends for saying I helped them I jus t shrug it of sayin no u did it I’m just here that’s all. Or my family thanking me or complaining me I’m like no not really I’m just doing my thing idk I just couldn’t accepted compliments how I was raised growing up I wasn’t complimented a lot or should that much love my dad and step-mom raised me rough and they favored my brothers so when I get a compliment or show of love I just didn’t know how to act but now I’m getting better and taking it since I moved with my mom 2 years ago
Must be difficult to think of yourself as anything more than a killer when that's all you've really been all your life
Arthur and Charlotte saved each other. Arthur saved her life by teaching her to care for herself after her husbands death. Charlotte saved Arthur's soul by making it clear that he was a changed man, a redeemed man, a truly good man like he always was deep down. Helping Charlotte and his decision to save John are what let Arthur die in good faith.
I always wondered if she ever went to Annesburg for ammo and by chance picked up a newspaper and learned about Arthur's past or learned it some other way. I wished John would've told her Arthur's story.
I feel like deep down she knew plus Arthur no mater how you dress him is outfitted like an outlaw with how he wears his gun on him
You can come back as John and he will tell her about how he passed
@@biggiecheese3198 is she at her cabin?
2:50 Arthur awkwardly saying "vamos!" to the German family as he's trying to shoo them away will always be funny to me lol
You're a good man, Arthur Morgan.
Most overused quote ever
You're a good man Arthur Morgan.
You're a good man, Arthur Morgan.@@CheezDoodlezz
@@CheezDoodlezz "You're a sad man, Arthur Morgan"
- Uncle
There, not so overused.
@@ChrisyCJMoon You're a sheep...
She’s my favorite side character you basically turn her into everything Sadie could have been
As cool as Sadie is she let her anger take over and she went tunnel vision on getting revenge on Michael and the o driscos after she got revenge I’m she doesn’t have anything to do or other skills so she’s just trying to get her self killed in a gun fight or something with the way she’s just stabbing random people
@@Snowy517 sadie and charlotte are two sides of the same coin when it comes to grief. Sadie was determined to avenge her husband and charlotte was determined to thrive in the life they lived
@@theoutsiderjess1869
Vengeance is a luxury we can't afford, and when you look at all the unneeded fighting and trouble Sadie caused the gang, I'd say she should've paid more attention to that teaching
@@LudicrousChrisI think Sadie solved all the problems she caused herself, with the help of Arthur, but she never caused the gang major problems, not to my knowledge
PS- It's also hilarious that John Marston, the person who "has a chance to have a real life", goes on to burn down villages in Mexico, and skins horses, dogs, mules, donkies, etc., and makes little snide comments about how his prey "stinks" or tells dead things to "lie still."
These are probably my favorite two games ever; but I can't deny the Rdr1 Marston is an f-ing maniac. Even in his cutscenes...dude...his eyes are bulging out. Everywhere he goes, everyone knows his name. He kind of screwed up Arthur's plan for the Marston's.
Also- the scene where Jack skins his first animal...and his face literally turns into the Marston scowl...damn, son.
It’s funny because most people try and give Arthur a high honor ending because they care for his character and it’s what he would want, but then you get to even the epilogue in this game and just let loose with every evil thing you’ve held back for the last fifteen or so hours of playing. It’s like Arthur sacrificed himself for John and unleashed an unhinged maniac on the people of new Austin. Oh well
@@joegibbskinsproblem with the epilogue is there’s not much to do specially if you did all the side quests as Arthur
Yep, John wasn't a bandit outlaw in rdr1, he was a gunslinger, an assassin masquerading as a bounty hunter. From his dialogue it was implied that he had experience as a ruthless member of an irredeemable gang led by a man so maniacally charismatic that he was practically a cult leader. I'll never forget my disappointment at seeing John do literally nothing the entire rdr2 except wear a goofy hat and be a deadbeat dad. He totally should've been Dutch's right hand man who Micah tries to supplant, and Arthur stands by John and gives John a second chance for his family by killing Micah when the gang fell apart.
Well said
in my most recent playthrough, she died to a wolf and my last save was hours ago so I took her body next to her husbands, I wanted to bury her. I cried as I rode away on my horse.
I love how arthur says “vamos” to the german family, jaja😂
Charlotte is my favourite side mission character, partly because she actually improved and got self-sufficient after getting some help. But how about that creepy stalker of hers that you can run into? I did terrible things to that guy....
I always end up visiting Charlotte as John and she speaks of Arthur so well because he basically saved her life.
I've always wondered if Arthur immediately took his illness seriously and rested. If he could have beat it. Tuberculosis had a very high death rate, but it wasn't impossible to survive.
Not with my smoking addiction
He probably would have a decent chance. Especially if he moved to dryer country with Charlotte
He would have lived longer with some rest not beat it Tb needs a vaccination that doesnt exist in that time which is why Tb is a death sentence
Its about 60% without proper treatment. He could have survivied but even if he did it would have had other affects on him. He would have been a shell of himself.
He caught it 24 years before a treatment was created. If he had of left and went someplace with cool and dry air like Colorado he might have been able to get 6 to 10 years more but still would have died of it. But the death would have been slower and a lot more painful. Him not stopping to rest often and the beatings he took as well as the amount of time he got soaked by rain and river water and the final fight with Micah are what compounded his quicker death. the time spent on Guarma in humidity and more fighting and beatings was also a factor in Arthur dying quicker than a normal TB Patient.
I wonder how Charlotte felt about Arthur after he dies, cause im sure it wouldve hit the news that the Outlaw known as Arthur Morgan with a $5K+ turned up dead after Dutch’s Boys fell out, with his picture on the paper. I know if you visit her with John she remembers him fondly but she doesnt say much so we may not know the full story.
After the first few times I played RDR2, I wished Arthur and Charlotte could be a fully fleshed out love story. But nowadays, in consideration of Arthur's TB and the story significance of how fragile and temporary life is, and how consequences can't be escaped, I guess it's fitting Arthur just helps her a few times and it doesn't go further. In another life, maybe, but Arthur's present life is too close to its end.
Arthur going through all these things in chapter 6 reminds me of the game's quote, "May I Stand Unshaken Amidst a Crash of Worlds".
damn bro never thought of it like that, that hits
I love it how Rockstar even took people with decent german to voice such small roles, almost sounding like native speakers, and from what I know, the Father's speaker at least is from german origin.
I think she’s a reminder to Arthur of what’s important in his last days on earth. Leaving something behind better than how you found it. To save who you can and try to pass on what you know. He didn’t get a chance to do that with his own child but he was able to teach the widow and save John. He left a legacy worth remembering
Unrelated by i like Arthur's attitude towards people in the wild like how with William he's just there looking at all his stuff; picking at all his ground flowers in the mortar; lifting the cage doors to look inside the cage wagons with Margrette, i love it, he's just so non-chalant about people
I'm surprised you didn't mention that you can actually go see Charlotte as John. She'll be sporting a sweet hat and talk about Arthur some more.
Holy shit, watching these vids has made me realize ive missed so much in this game and ive played it up to the epilogue the first time and im pretty far through my second playthrough. Im gonna have to fuckin play it again and try to TRULY explore this game.
whenever you have a sidequest or random event, do it first ;)
Exactly, I like to run around the map and spend day and night going through the towns and woods. Go looking for things to do. After that then do a main mission and repeat map running. There's a lot of cool little things. Especially at night in the mountains
Arthur is definitely a good man and this is shown in the final chapter. He is a dead man walking and he knows that, yet instead of just laying down to die or feeling bitter and becoming vengeful, he chooses to go out of his way to help people.
He's still very pragmatic in the way he does this but he realises that his life is done, but he can give others the chance to live their's. The fact that he chooses redemption just shows how much he's grown and how much he's willing to sacrifice to save other people.
How ever you look at it, this alone reveals a truly selfless individual, which just goes to show his complexity as a character
Even is Arthur decided to run away with Mary or someone else like Charlotte he was 24 year away from a viable treatment for TB if he had of headed for some place dry and cool like Colorado he would have only had 6 to 10 years left that is if he took it easy and rested. However we all know taking it easy is not something Arthur does even if he's sicker than a mangey dog.
His flower at his tent is actually a cure for TB discovered later, in the game it is said that Arthur's mother said it was a good luck flower.
tb can remain dormant for years, even forever if your immune sistem doesnt get low. Arthur getting septic wound and stressing on guarma cliamte awaken the dormant illens. if none of that happened he would have never get sick.
Aside from Arthur's main redemption with the gang and John...this arc with Charlotte was a major turn in the way Arthur had grown and developed. This was my favorite side story.
To me it’s Arthur’s closure, it tells himself he isn’t a bad man, and he builds a meaningful relationship that allowed him to see that he intentionally has forever positively impacted someone’s world, it was the official turning point in himself of knowing he’s not doing it circumstantially, but out of his own will.
I always equated Charlotte and Arthur Londonderrys wife and kid with Eliza and Issac. In particular when he sees Issac for the first time
Hell even him beating up Thomas Dowmes mirror that moment completely. Arthur is the guy after the money and he ruims a family beating a man to death .
yes@@theoutsiderjess1869
Wholesome side events! Deliver some good and genuine moments between two people in this state of the story. She would have been the „realer“ or „better“ Mary for him who only doubted him (perhaps rightfully so at that time) but the on the other hand met at very different state of theirs lifes…
I like to think of Arthur never got sick that he could settle down with her leave the gang behind
Charlotte over Mary
@@lewisjohnston7077FACT!
*Sadie
*mary-beth
Sadie is the tomboy wife
@@HH-xe3skthe Mary sue
Charlotte seemed like a love story for Arthur in a way.
In a way the greatest in his life thus far. True love is wanting the ultimate good for the other, and one demonstrates it through the sacrifice of self for the betterment of the other. Arthur gave what Charlotte needed to live the rest of her days with all he had learnt. All with what little time he had left and wanted nothing in return.
@@thepoetandwit6513Charlotte was also super rich, she offered Arthur TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS after his tb fit, which you can decline, but she insists its alright ( I also think it's the highest amount of money you can refuse in the game) So yeah, she definitely adored him, romantically or otherwise giving him back so much for what he did.
I bet if Arthur didn't get TB, they would've lived their lives happily together, right in front of Cal's ghost.
i wish Charlotte had a line in the high honor version of Arthur's last ride to Beaver Hollow at the end of chapter 6
Arthur also deals with perv who was more or less stalking her.
Oh darn, I didn't know there was a third encounter with Charlotte, I totally missed that😔
I loved charlotte she was a great character in RDR2. I think the reason why Arthur helped her is because they both have something in common like losing someone that they cared about, how they wanted survive in a world where it is difficult, and many others. Also helping Charlotte to survive made Arthur more human with compassion. I had wished that she could have been more featured in the game. Also I like on how she isn’t judgmental on Arthur
they both needed something that the other one you offer. I'm sure their relation didn't go further because they both knew it wouldn't last
Charlotte and Arthur kind of mirrors the first encounter with Sadie Addler but are some differences but Arthur did help Sadie but with Charlotte he set her on a path to survive on the frontier. This was amazing I love the content
I did her first mission didn’t know she would die if you came back years later😭
I adore her too! I'm glad Rosktar left us a choice. This doesn't always happen...
The Charlotte missions are some of my favorites in the game.
The missions with Charlotte remind me of a Colter Wall song called 🎶Caroline.
I honestly wonder if Rockstar has a statistic of how many players have runs where Charlotte is dead, or was never even talked too. It feels like they intentionally put her cabin in the most northern point so people who don't explore much don't even find her.
I actually loved this interaction with Charlotte. I normally play all my characters more lightside. It's a shame that she just disappears and the house goes back to being locked up after the third interaction.... Then the same in epilogue.
I always loved this interaction. I liked to pretend that she would’ve become his girlfriend if he had time and health. She was a decent woman. The kind Arthur liked. His girl Mary was a saint. Compared to the woman at camp. And I believe that Charlotte had those qualities Arthur liked.
You can visit her as John. And when you do, she's evidently happily surviving and dressed in leather clothers she probably made.
I believe I’ve watched nearly every vid, not sure if you have or not, would be interested in seeing a theories full video of your opinions.. love your work, rock on!🤘
Arthur doesn't have a negative opinion of himself. He is self aware. He knows he's not a good man, 9 times out of ten, any good he does is for payment. At least in the beginning. Eventually, he starts acting more selfless, but outside of stranger missions, the storyline shows him to be a violent killer, with little remorse, if any. It isn't until the gang starts to crumble that he starts changing. However, the true turning point is when he becomes aware of his death sentence. Faced with his own mortality, he starts to reflect on his life, and the story takes a turn towards Arthur trying to do something, in his eyes, that matters.
And realize that after Arthur's diagnosis, he's accepted that he's going to hell for what he's done. Meaning he's not seeking redemption, he recognizes wrong for wrong, and strives to make it right. Which is great, because if he was seeking redemption, he'd no longer be acting selflessly.
In my last playthrough I wanted to see what would happen if you help Charlotte with hunting as Arthur but come back as John to teach her how to use the rifle. I entered the house and I found her skeleton lying on the floor. I stood there for a couple of minutes
Charlotte is my fav stranger mission
There are so many people that say good honor Arthur doesn't make sense. I feel they've yet to actually play the game.
i did all charlotte encounters at night when it was raining. makes it better imo
It's amazing how many people say Arthur is a good man. Don't get me wrong I love his character and also love RDR, both my favorite protagonist and favorite game, but he isn't a good man. Even outside our control Arthur killed God knows how many people and he can never be a good person, but he does try to redeem himself in the end with some success.
14:35 that is what makes this game such a masterpiece, the developers have thought about every detail
I think Charlotte might've gotten TB as well. When arthur passes out he coughs a lot and it probably 'hit' charlotte also she kissed him and he used her dishes and she had to carry him to the bed
She didnt get tb John can visit her and she is just as healthy. If she got it then that means Tilly, Sadie and the others got it as well
You know what's crazy? I just finished doing this stranger mission and I got this video recommended to me.
This affirms artur is meant to be played with high honor. No choice prompts and still does the right thing
When do you think that change should be made? After he helps the German family because of Charles?
That's absolutly not true, not to mention that the early chapter choices ALL make low honor more sense like him not wanting to help the family moving camp, him beating people up for loans and being mad for helping John, kiIIing hundreds of people. He only way high honor makes sense is in chapter 6.
nope
@@FriendwithNoName7 Very short sighted...
7:55 - I see what you're saying what with Charles teaching him with the bow, but if you're a player like me, you never use the bow. I always main the B.A.R or the trapdoor gun. Small game is always the varmint rifle
it’s crazy how much shits in this game man. there will never be another game like it. and it’s sad asf bro
I am still standing😭😭😭
I was showing her how to shoot bottles and thought it would be funny to use dynamite.......John found her a few years later
i think channels like yours show how awesome it could be if rockstar could bring us a rpg style game filled with different storylines and rich with lore, similar to a bethesda title like TES or fallout. They already do so good with missable content in their story driven games that i think they would kill the rpg genre.
“I’ll knock the color right off you!” 😂
‘I’ll knock the colour clean off you’ 😂😂
You can find Charlotte still there as john and you can inform her that arthur passed john aeven mentions that Arthur wrote quit nicely about her in his journal
It just shows that Arthur’s kindness made long lasting impressions. He truly did leave a lot of good behind
I wasn't sure what would happen if I aimed a gun at her whilst the hunting was happening, and she started screaming and ran away so now in the epilogue she doesn't spawn😭
The funny thing is I was just helping her before I saw this video! 😂
She is my favorite side caracter
A real cool fact that makes for a cool head canon is that one of the founding fathers of the mexican mafia in america was a white male called Joe "Pegleg" Morgan, I always love to think in my own headcanon that he was Arthur's grandson and Arthur never knew about him. Mary and Eliza surely weren't the only women that Arthur slept with and back in those times it was very easy to get pregnant so it makes a lot of sense.
(Spoiler) One moment that felt sad in rdr2 for me was when the Old Veteran That lives Next to O Creaghs run get attacked by a boar And in his last seconds he tells you to take His horse buell He was my only horse i didnt race off a cliff or get shot dead I kept him until the final So when Your random tennese Walker dies It hit hard for Me seeing the veterans horse die
I'd like to think arthur could have stayed with her if he got out of the gang life and survived, sure he might not have had much time left but i think it would have been nice for a time.
Keep up the great content
How is it that Arthur never infected anyone else?
0:11
Help? What about getting 20$ per convict is helping them?
*This is the Way.*
I'll give you the simple answer. For the good left undone and remember Hosea's story about his wife? I'm guessing that correlation of the two made him realize what was right.
i never even seen her
Can someone find Charlotte in Arthur's journal ? I did all her missions and she's never mentioned there
does anyone know the background music he uses in these videos? i know it’s some ambient music from rdr2 but i don’t know the name, nor the mission that it’s from
I feel like Charlotte would've married arthur but arthur has TB
*Turn of the 20th Century.
i still ship em
3:22 which mission does this happen?
good video
Seeing Arthur with his boots over his pants is always weird
Why that's his canon normal look and shown in the trailers? Also for riding horse it's better.
@@FriendwithNoName7 ok? it looks stupid
@@yeeheestoner223 It doesnt look stupid, how does it look stupid?
you do know thats his normal look and how it's supposed to be worn@@yeeheestoner223
@@FriendwithNoName7 makes him look like a full on clown
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great videos btw
You speak like we didn't have any options.
*promosm*
Shave Arthur’s damn beard
5th comment is crazy
No it isn’t
i was pretty early when i commented there was only like 100 views@@CheezDoodlezz
is Arthur asexual?
no, he had a son with one girl (idk her name) and the other girl which he still loves Mary
@@ggeronimo4412 Arthur’s baby momma was called Eliza
@@ggeronimo4412 yeah I know about that but sometimes asexual people still have sexually active past and his love towards Mary seems to be romantic but platonic
dont know what your yappin about bro they both wanted to run away and have a new life, and back then that would mean start a family@@magnum675
@@magnum675 his love for mary isnt platonic but they both know if they started back up again it would end bad. Mary is sad that Arthur didnt leave that life for her and Arthur is sad that he still wants her but now not only is it too late for him to be with her he is working against time to get members of the gang out and safe with his withering health.
Don’t do so much rambling about irrelevant storylines before you actually get to the point of the video
No
Get a fuckin attention span. Christ, it's a 16 minute video with a short preamble to establish how seemingly insignificant side quests can point to larger themes in the over all plot