What would war with North Korea look like?
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You should make a video about Eritrea.
The only country worse than North Korea 🇰🇵
I wonder if he could put pearls like "North Korea might misinterpret South Korean pre-emptive strike against North Korea" ... "...obviously North Korea has no intention of starting a war or it wouldn't sell arms to Russia.".
This is fun channel rly, now imagine someone takes this seriously :)
North Korea is probably a better place to live in than Azerbaijan
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F-35s dont have Surface-to-Air missiles... they have Air-to-Surface and Air-to-Air missiles.
does the ejection seat count
@@hertzwave8001fun fact, the pilot can eject and the parachute safely open even if the plane is literally parked on the ground
@@hertzwave8001 Nope, it doesn't target anything. A G2A missile isn't called that because it's shot into the air, but rather because it targets something that is in the air, and is fired from the ground.
A firework isn't a ground to air missile either, if you were wondering.
@@thesenate1844 Yeah, but they found that out the hard way¬!! 🤣😂😅
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The "conventional artillery turning Seoul to rubble" paper relied on the assumption that North Korea would relocate every single piece of its artillery into the one tiny spot from where most of their artillery can actually reach Seoul. Which would make disabling them that much more easier, even if that one spot had the logistical and storage capacity for it. And such relocation of epic proportions couldn't be done as a surprise attack. SK would have every single shell store in that tiny plot of land mapped out weeks before the invasion. Besides, the idea of North Korea just choosing to fire at civilians with all of its artillery might while completely ignoring the South Korean and US forces advancing on their positions just so they can kill more civilians is absurd.
And I don't think the paper even took into account that people would take shelter once the bombing started, and the casualties wouldn't mount linearly for hours on end, keeping the same mortality rate as it had during the first minute of the attack. Let alone NK being able to sustain the same rate of fire for hours while being bombed by SK/USA. People wouldn't just stand around on the street for hours on end while they are getting shelled. Casualties from artillery would drop massively after the first 15 minutes or so, as the majority of the people getting shelled would be in some kind of cover. Like a bomb shelter, basement, parking hall. We know from Ukraine and Syria what modern mass artillery barrages into urban centers look like, and these 100k death figures in hours are ridiculous.
Problems with the premise are endless.
brilliant.
One thing people don't think into context is how the "Seoul into sea of fire" quote first became well known outside the Korean Peninsula. It was the (South) Korean administration and its delegates who shared this to the world first when the Northern counterpart said this on the negotiating table. It was to show the world how warmongering and irrational the North wanted itself to look like, and how the North seems to be threatening an act of mass murder to stay on top of the negotiating table. If North Korea could turn Seoul and its metro area into "sea of fire" in the 21st Century, they wouldn't have been building nuclear weapons. The threat may have had some sliver of truth in the 1980s when both sides had some military parity. Today, it's just an empty rhetoric to rally fanaticism. It was already made clear in 2010 with the Yeonpyeong Bombardment incident: if North Korea tries to set Seoul on fire with conventional weapons, the only thing it will do is make the Hamas's attack on Oct.7th 2023 into a miniature preview of a Korean War 2 nuclear boogaloo, retroactively.
Absurd? Have you seen this Kim guy?
Sorry but you don't live in Seoul.most of the shelters are fake or under capacity and aren't even refurbished nowdays😂
We have always lived in an era of war. I dont think there has ever been a time in human history where there hasn't been a conflict.
@Punisher9419 Yep, we are actually living in a relatively peaceful time in terms of human history despite everything going on.
@@callumsaunderson1089 its peaceful beacsue of the influence of imperial global powers, not because we've become more civilised
@@callumsaunderson1089while that may be true, the stakes of world war happening are far much more consequential then before
well western countries havent....americans have literally no idea what war means....yeah their country loves to invade other coutnries but US has never been bombed like Asian and European countries
You are right but even so the era between world war 2 until now was the most peaceful era since the Roman empire was at it peak
Any war is a terrible idea.
Yes but a war between nuclear powers is much worse
Something still has to be done. There are ways to win a war without fighting (just ask Sun Tzu).
War is not entirely voluntary.
@@manwiththeredface7821not probably we still going in mate,
There is more war
now these days
North Korea is a fortress, literal mountains have been filled with bunkers over the decades. There's no telling howw extensive their mountain fortresses are but they are formidable for sure. Any war would require ground troops to root them out of these mountains one by one.
Hear me out. Nationwide siege warfare.
Everyone in youtube comments is a general.
I deployed to S. Korea in 2016-2017, we trained subterranean warfare a few times while there. The Nork’s mountain bunkers are a huge concern.
is it just me or is my comment not showing up?
@@carlosandleon Nah, I can’t see it either.
>F-35
>shows F-22
DPRK has no chance in winning an offensive war against ROK and allies but has a chance in winning a defensive war with the help of their allies.
Depends on what you define as "offensive war"...conquering the south is different then eradicating it with nukes.
@@hermaeusmora2945 I dont think kim would annihilate his own people (koreans) just to save his ass.. I think the nukes will mostly be used against US
@@hermaeusmora2945you're assuming those can even land a strike against South Korean and us air defenses.
@@Cryosxify yeah, so? And you're assuming that US and Korean defenses can magically protect everyone.
@@hermaeusmora2945 remember Israel? And how may nukes was it they projected fat boy has? Less than a hundred.
This is under the assumption that the US main priority is North Korea. But what if Russia escalates its war in Ukraine, and China takes Taiwan, then North Korea attacks South Korea? What would the US do in a WW3 situation?
South Korea alone can defeat the North. It is not as if the North is unstoppable.
How would China take Taiwan when its people revolt against the CCP as the cities burn, towns flood from open dams and industrial centres collapse? And how would Russia escalate the war when its personnel and materiel have been massively depleted?
Rest assure, the US won't be going at it alone. In such scenario, Europe will mainly handle Russia. Japan, South Korea, Australia/NZ, Canada, Taiwan, and the Philippines will join forces with the US against the CCP and North Korea. Not a scenario anyone envies, but likely.
I think South Korea could take care of the north without American assets. I doubt China would tie itself to an aggressive north Korea, even if they are happy for the distraction.
In a WW3 situation, the USA wouldn't need to worry about Russia because the European NATO members could deal with them.
Videos like this, where I have some limited background knowledge, make me worry about the accuracy of your videos where I don't. (1) It's unlikely that massed infantry can easily cross the DMZ in either direction (minefields etc), especially as such a crossing would be opposed; (2) If the North was losing, it's highly likely China would intervene (see the 1950s Korean War, and the obvious continued modern desire for China to have a buffer state and/or avoid mass refugees); (3) Everyone knows the North has nukes, and that nuclear-armed nations will react with nukes when faced with an existential threat, so the likelihood that the South will try to invade is unlikely (especially given #1).
I think this is one of the reason i stopped watching caspianReport. I used to take their word for it and they made a video about my country. It was not good, missrepresenting facts and going on about something that is entirely not true or possible. That is when i realized that if he is missing so many points about my country, he is probably doing the same for other coutnries. I really hate this happened to CaspianReport, It was a very good channel and had done some nice videos about topics that i am knowlegeable about so i can verify those. He did a good job during the Armenia-Azerbaijan War too. Afterwards, something happened with this after Russian Invasion of Ukraine, you can check the community page and see the posts made by caspianReport. too many false and sensationalization. It is ok that you are emotional but from a channel that does reporting job, people expect unbiased factual reporting, not emotional ones. Anyhow, have stoppped watching a lot of channels lately because of the war, as i am quite active on Telegram/Reddit and i follow the war very closely so when channels do try to lie about things, they get easily spotted.
@@masoodjalal1152 What country are you from and what did he get so wrong about it?
@@masoodjalal1152 Completely agree. It was definitely after Ukraine war and happened to many channels. Also many "new" channels rose to prominence presenting the same (well-presented) narrative as any mainstream US newspaper (WP, NYT). I guarantee money is flowing from these mobile game apps pretty selectively to channels presenting the "right" narrative.
For example, an old Caspian Report video would dig deep into the incentives behind whether NK would launch an attack (hint: there's not any great reasons). Here, he just says they could misinterpret a military exercise or actually be attacked first.
I also can't imagine old CR taking the US's "limited warfare" marketing at face value. Clearly that would be a real attack, and would start the war, making the US/SK to blame. Of course they'll make up an excuse "our intel said they were going to attack first!" Are we really that dumb that we don't understand that countries make up excuses to start wars??
Also, all of the arguments for why SK will destroy NK could've been said about Ukraine vs Russia. (They were said actually). Javelins, Fighter jets vs outdated soviet equipment. Felt like I was back in 2022 again
I'm just so disappointed.
Whoever writes the scripts has a very superficial understanding and they have an obvious anti-American bias.
@@masoodjalal1152The channel changed about 2 or 3 years ago, I'm not sure what happened but I have my suspicion
I was at Camp Stanely for 4 years. Most of those bases have been closed for a long time now. You need to update your map.
Japan too might get involved by helping South Korea. Japan doesn't want the North and China to win.
You need learn some Korean-Japanese history.
@@shakiMiki History must not stand in the way of cooperation.
@@shakiMiki History doesn't matter in the front of a world war. UK and France had fought against each other for more than a millennium, but they collaborated against Germany
Japan will offer its bases for air support sure, but there's little else significant it can really provide. A helocarrier or two at best. The problem with fighting North Korea isn't in the water, but on land. You can't win just via the navy, and Japan will be of little use for a land invasion.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn Having aerial supremacy is crucial for winning a war. Thus Japan's contribution will be important. The North cannot win without aerial support.
everything around the DMZ would be gone in minutes.
can korea just reunify? its one country ffs
@@yonggeun4222on one side you have a democratic country and on the other you have an authoritarian hell hole.
How could they reunify?
Technically the war never ended and is still going on
True all they have are armistice lines.
North Korea will unleash their might of 1950s jets
You think F-16 from 1970s are better?
@@IgorDruzhinin-qo2vj Use a calendar and figure it out for yourself
@@IgorDruzhinin-qo2vj South Korea also has 39 F-35s which could destroy the entirety of the North Korean air force.
@@saltzkruber732 igor must be drunk posting again
@@saltzkruber732 Usew your brain next time before emberassing yourself.
As a South Korean living in Seoul, I can say that this war is very unlikely because North’s goal is not unification/annexation, but sustaining Kim’s regime.
But in this scenario, I’d agree that I would likely be dead within 2 hours of the war starting lol.
Hopefully not. Don’t let the US turn you into the next Ukraine
"Having all your eggs in one basket is bad for the economy"
All of that work and nary a word about the Sino-North Korean Treaty of Friendship, Co-operation, and Mutual Assistance. Article II reads, "In the event of one of the Contracting Parties being subjected to the armed attack by any state or several states jointly and thus being involved in a state of war, the other Contracting Party shall immediately render military and other assistance by all means at its disposal."
But if the North reignites the war, were they “subject to an armed attack”? The South is unlikely to fire the first shot because popular sentiment is turning against reunification and the devastating multigenerational costs of reintegrating and redeveloping the North, and that’s without a war where Pyongyang voluntarily accedes into the ROK much like East Germany did.
@@doujinflip It wouldn't be too hard to find Russians who claim that Ukraine started the current conflict through its actions in eastern Ukraine. You can even find some Japanese who will insist that hostilities began with US economic sanctions. Having said that, under this scenario there is no guarantee that there would be Chinese boots on the ground unless once again allied forces approach the Chinese border.
@deanzaZZR it's easy enough to claim that to make your invasion justified. It's much harder to convince an ally that doesn't really want to fight that it's a defensive war if it's clearly not.
@@0Coolrl0 The bottomline is that China will act solely on China's terms but the potential threat to ROK or USA forces is backed by a formal security agreement.
@@deanzaZZRif they enter the Chinese border misunderstandings might happen, some of them might get shot when entering or getting too close. It’s uncertain if USA would like to go further inwards.
*"China views North Korea as akin to Ukraine in its strategic significance and is determined to prevent it from falling into American or South Korean hands."*
ie. "China will invade North Korea."
I doubt it. Some WikiLeaks show that Beijing is actually happy to let North Korea be under Seoul's administration, provided that Seoul is friendly towards Beijing. China just doesn't want the US to expand their influence.
The whole thing is based on the idea that US would massively supply and Support South Korea while China and Russia sit and watch. Remember, Kim helped Putin out with ammo, he definitely struck some deal.
It is the same level of analysis than the one saying that Ukraine will destroy Russia with the help of the US. US arm is not what is used to be and it is way over-rated today
@@astromigui US arms are purple, pink and baby blue these days
If even South Korea always worries if Americans will sacrifice New York for Seoul, can anyone ever expect Chinese or Russians to sacrifice Beijing or Moscow for Pyeongyang? Things are not so clear-cut as you want to see.
@@knpark2025 The situation is alot different between China NorthKorea than US South Korea. For US, Skorea is a strong ally in an important geopolitical region and a strong business partner. But for China losing Nkorea is like having its doors open for US intervention. If US takes over Pyongyang it will be like a Cuban Missile crisis of China. There is no way they will allow US at the doorstep of China. If they dont stop that eventually US will be just a few kilometers away from beijing so its similiar to losing beijing in the future anyways
Russians cant even beat Ukraine and they are going to "help" North Korea at the same time in an eventual Korean crisis? Not bloody likely.
I doubt their F-35's are equiped with surface to air missiles. They probably meant air to air missiles.
same lol
And air to surface, mako is hypersonic and fits in the weapons bay
@@Cryosxify Also yes
From the context of the sentence (in the video it is part of an argument that they would establish air superiority quickly), I was thinking they meant air-to-air in this case.
Japan is 4th economy not 3rd
Soon to be 5th
Chyna real GDP is like 11 trillion. Fake even their economics
no its not lol its third
@@HailAzathoth just google it lol
Germany surpassed Japan this year and India is expected to do so as well by end of the year. This is mostly due to the Japanese economy contracting rather than gains by the others though
You've completely neglected to talk about the area around Busan, which is heavily industrialized and has been built to not only be self-sufficient, but to also churn out all they could need for a modern war. It has massive shipyards, industrial plants, an oil refinery and electronics plants, as well as sufficient energy from the NPPs there.
Also SK knows of its vulnerability in Seoul, that's why they've been pushing for industries there to relocate. The city of Sejong is a result of that.
The issue right now is not conventional artillery for Seoul, but a nuke. Its geography means that even a Hiroshima sized bomb could cause massive casualties. Add to that the rumors of the city sitting on a giant natural gas pocket.
As for the rest of the country, there's the issue of the tunnels dug under the DMZ, of who only a few were found. Nobody knows how many NK dug.
I think that NK would not want to initiate a war at this point in time, because they have been selling their artillery to Russia, so their stockpiles are probably not in the best state right now. Also, because they would need to stop selling to Russia, and this is a profitable business for them.
@@User-jr7vf Agreed. Also in recent years their worst threats always coincided with drought, or flooding of the Kaesong region, their most fertile land. Something along the lines of "give us rice, or we'll nuke you!"
Busan region as a whole isnt far from DMZ. Artillery will without a doubt be the biggest thing north korea has. And of all the allies the Us has South Korea is easily the most vulnerable. North korea can just deal out so much at once.
@@JaKingScomez Busan can only be reached by ballistic missile, which can be defended against by the navy or patriot and THAAD batteries.
@@Bonedagi 😑
Kim's rethoric CAN be dismissed easily by asking one simple question: "what does North Korea have to win with an all out war against South Korean and with it the West?"
9:55 That part doesn't make sense, F-35 are equipped with air to surface not surface to air missiles.
caspian report is a clown. He's reading scripts provided to him. Look at his projections for the ukraine Russia war.
My god you know what he means
There's always one................
I went to both Koreas a few years ago to research a video on the Korean War. Such a fascinating piece of history.
Imagine a jet so advanced it fires surface to air missles 😂
"South Korean ground forces are better equipped and better trained" (9:34)... Let's not forget better fed as well. This would make a huge difference in an even weeks long conflict.
Love the editing, soundtracks and its sound effects you put has been much more improved dramatically in this one 🔥
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South korea (divided nation) birth rate is 0.6, but military defense duty is still mandatory only for men (even men with poor health).
I really liked the song/ soundtrack you used. I’ve been watching your videos since the beginning and they keep getting better!
This video got me thinking about Indo China or China US war , both of which can happen in future and the scale of those wars will be colossal. I recommend making videos on these two as well.
I think it would be a huge risk to Kim’s power to have his army enter South Korea and witness their standard of living, I wonder how they would react.
Always enjoy your thorough and unbiased breakdowns of geopolitics. Thank you for your hard work.
I really do hate the myth that north korea can just level seoul in minutes or hours. The fact is so few of the norths artillery can even reach it, it all would have to be packed into one area and it would be a sitting target for the south to airstrike and shell back. The population in the city can more easily than most places in the world run to shelters in the event of an attack and massively reduce casualty figures. Using artillery as a weapon of terror is a waste especially for north korea as it means thousands of more important targets would not be hit and the south would just overwhelm them in a counter attack.
I pray that the North Korean people will be free of its dictatorship without a bullet or rocket being fired.
The liberation happened 70 years ago already
@@EroUsagiSama you are confusing the North with the South.
@@Danfromthenorthsouth isnt better place so you are confused
Wonder whats selfcide rate in north vs south and birth rate lol
Edit: Birthrate in north korea is good and at avg, south korea has collapsed birth rate ppl reported my other comment wow
@@meteorknight999 both countries have sub replacement fertility rates but living standards are much higher in South Korea.
South Koreans are also free to leave the country - North Koreans are not free, starved and without access to free speech and the internet. Are you allowed to say that you don’t like your leaders or systems? In the south, yes. In the north, definitely no
@@Danfromthenorth what are you smoking north korean population is only increasing
South korea has below 1 fertility rate and thats lying faked data its much lower acturally
The fact that the US has countless military bases all over the world is more worrying.
Remember, Russia is expansionist country while US is protecting freedom. Opening a map with all overseas US and Russian bases tells a complete different story.
@@masoodjalal1152 Russia would very much like to have the same global reach and military power as the US; however, it simply has neither the resources nor the influence needed. Moscow maintains a military presence where it can-in Moldova, Georgia, the Western Balkans, Belarus, Ukraine, and some African countries-but it can't really compare to US capabilities.
The scary part is that while South Korea have A LOT to lose, while North Korea basically have nothing to lose since North Korea have nothing.
Heard this talk before from Israel, US in Afghanistan and Saudis in Yemen 😂
If Kim is going to act, he better do it while the USA doesn't have a functioning President.
You mean one not literally sharing "love" letters with him. K then.
I agree, a Trump victory in November would be bad news all around. Putin, Kim, and Xi are all banking on it, though.
Hey, that actually worked far better than anything else. Orange man Good 👍.@@michaelthomas5433
He is actually better off under trump who is far less likely to intervene in a foreign conflict and wants to leave nato
@@cgtactical6619 Bull crap. I have no idea where you get your misinformation but Trump does NOT want to leave NATO. He merely wants NATO partners to pay their required statutory amounts into NATO. No more NATO freeloaders. We are NOT Europe's police force.
It wasnt just US troops in Korea war, British and many UN countries deployed troops as well. Its disrespectful to not acknowledge their contribution
Means traditional warmongers were all fighting in Korea?
It's better to say "UN troops" as it wasn't just countries from NATO, look who is being disrespectful now
@@thecomment9489 No the Mongol hordes or the Imperial Roman Army wasn't there.
leeches sending in a few men to try and get the glory more like
@@Davey-Boyd But Britain was there, right? And Britain has invaded 90% of all the countries in the world at one point of time or another.
Always love your work
Why would you believe that a modern conflict would be almost 20 times more violent than previous conflict?
north Korea got nukes it’s basically a shields and big gun
Another element of this fight is that North Koreans generally aren't very happy with their government and a significant portion would be in support of South Korea annexing them.
Source?
Love what you do. Enjoy every video
Or... Kim sells overstocked shells because he doesn't plan to make conventional war 😉
you're focusing on the wrong conflict
North Korea had underground factories during the Korean War ... imagine what they have now.
The same underground factories and emaciated workers.
north korean now have lot of kn-25 600 mm yes because it's nuclear mlrs south korean nightmare 🌚
Wow, looking at the comments, I was surprised to see so many people overestimating North Korea.
If I ran North Korea I would be more worried about Beijing more than Seoul. If a shooting war happens, China is going to do a land grab and get some combat experience for other conflicts it may want to pursue. Either way North Korea will be very different than it is today.🤔
It’s a nice touch that in the title you didn’t say that this is how it WOULD go down but how it COULD go down. Far too many creators think their summaries are exactly how it would happen.
I'm pretty sure they've been investing in drone manufacturing as well considering their effectiveness in Ukraine. It wouldn't be a surprise to see a flood of Gerand drones going south with the rockets and artillery fire.
Yeah can you imagine a North korean army equipped with chinese hardware and trained by veteran russian soldiers who saw the hell of a modern battlefield? That's scary
South Korea has a TFR of 0.8, the North has a TFR of 1.8
North won without firing a shot
How do you know what the fertility rate of the North is?
@@davout5775it’s higher, they have nothing better to do 😂
@@dexlab7539 😂😂😂
Always on point with your presentation
The production level is getting high up there buddy
Except he uses ai for his voice
@@134343I remember watching videos on this channel a few years ago, and his voice sounded very similar.
@@134343 no AI is able to do this my friend. They're not there yet
His voice isn't AI, but I think most of his scripts are AI generated at this point 😕
Why South korea put their capita in such a precarious location instead of a southern coastal city
Same reason it’s always been in the Kaesong-Seoul area: favorable location from which to administer the rest of the realm. Most of SK’s defense activities are farther south in Daegu and Busan though.
Because it was the old capital of the Joseon kingdom
The Motherland does not forget!
I really respect one aspect of north Korea. The courage to defy USA hegemony out loud and not give a second thought about it.
Yolo so live it with dignity.
( that doesn't mean they are a good country)
I’d suggest Kim take a look at what happened to Saddam Hussain and Muammar Gaddafi when they got to big for their boots.
Hence why NK prioritised acquiring nuclear weapons. Fear of regime change is what drove them. That threat is now gone.
The ability to strike first and negate nuclear weapons is possible with hypersonic munitions. Idiotic policy from Putin started this trend, and they’ll never have the money to match the west.
Those 2 didn’t have nuclear weapons.
Kim would have the military support of Russia and China if needed. Air defence missiles based in Russia and China would be able to destroy S Korean and US aircraft making incursions into N Korea
Those exact reasons are why he intensified the development of Nuclear weapons
People seem to think winning a war involves completely beating a enemy when making your enemy take to many casualties they do not consider it worth it to continue the war is another way of winning a war 🤦♂️
Thank you so much! I would like a list of used sources with this and other videos.
Kim isn’t stupid enough to start a war.
What they said about Putin. How did that work out. As the video pointed out, we are living in an age of war. Times are different.
@@shakiMiki well Putin already started a war in Ukraine and Georgia prior to 2022, so that would just be a stupid assumption. The same can not be said of Kim
Kim will be fighting in his own backyard, Putin is not. If Kim starts war, he has a very high chance of losing his throne unlike Putin.
War... War never changes.
What does that mean?
Clearly war has changed.
In ways we couldn't have imagined a few decades ago.
@@infidelheretic923 bro never played fallout
Thanks for yet another excellent video
Stopped watching after he said that the North has no chance at winning.
It doesn't but I wouldn't expect a tankie to understand.
NK: Attacks South Korea.
Japan: Whatever you do, don’t touch the American boats nearby.
NK: Proceeds to not listen to Japan and takes out one American cruiser.
[one moment later]
South Korea: AMERICA! Why are we an island now?
America: They messed with our boats.
South Korea: They got off lucky
Cringe
Moments later:
UN: why was North America cut into two?
Canada: US fucked with China's border wall.
lol what is South Korea in 30 years look at the birth rates
NK realizes taking thousands of hostages will help them
Even if war is bad for business- there is a human nature to it where you have to take into account the millions that will live a free life in the future if that war which is terrible now achieves its goal of freeing the country.
"Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay its price."
not over million dead bodies
War might be net negative for sum of businesses on both sides, but it can be very profitable for the winning side.
By that logic we should drop EVERYTHING we're currently doing and pour ALL of humanity's resources towards developing a benevolent AI for the sake the trillions of potential future humans who could have their lives improved even by just 1% by having said AI developed even just a day earlier than it otherwise would have. Also, if you're a believer in the afterlife, by that logic we should all embrace our deities and then together unalive the entire human race in order to 'live' forever in ultimate bliss.
@@yoppindiahumans are willing to do it over millions of bodies that's what happened in ww1&2
>country has patriot defence systems
And we've seen how well they do in Ukraine and Arabia lol
F35 using surface to air missile... by launching it while parking in the hangar 😅
Given South Koreas demographic crisis he just needs to wait them out.
"It is with great sadness that I must also conclude that my country has sunk to such political and moral depths that it is now an apartheid regime. It is time for the international community to recognise this reality as well."
Michael ben-yair, former attorney general of Israel
FACT : One Korean with Communist Uniform and one With Capitalist uniform fight against to each other FACT both are koreans 😢🇰🇷❤🇰🇵
Everyone is human.
I love the optimism for a country that has a high failure rate and abandons its fellow compatriots. Maybe it's time to stop prioritizing Olympics, G7 and focus on reunification.
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Blud ran out of ideas and gave us a Hollywood-tier analysis. "The cost would be tremendous but the power of the United States will prevail!" Sorry bro but this time you are beyond superficial and you fail to account for several important details that can't be omitted if we're actually discussing war in Korea in this decade.
Plot twist: South Korea goes extinct, North Korea walks in and meets no resistance.
nonsense
The birth rate is low in South Korea. But it isn't zero. The population will decline. And much of those who remain will be ailing pensioners.
But it's a far cry to say they'll be "extinct".
How high is North Korea's birth rate by the way? Wasn't Kim crying last year infront of North Koreans and begging women to have more kids?
@@infidelheretic923 Number of newborns declines exponentially. With constant fertility rate 0.7, the population will decline from ~50 million in 2024 to ~20 million in 2100. If the fertility rate drops to 0.5 then it's ~10 million in 2100. It's hard to estimate exponentials, so maybe I am too pessimistic. It is not going to get easier with increasing burden of the elderly.
This video proves again why this channel deserves more attention!
Always interesting content.
Don't worry guys, South Korea has an ace of its sleeve to defeat North Korea, k-pop!!
haha. The K idols would neutralize the incoming missiles with their dance.
The groupies have faith.
FR though, i bet K-pop will be a major reason why the world would be collectively enraged if South Korea is attacked. Never underestimate soft power in its ability to summon aid
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They have BTS in their army, and BTS Army is 90m strong, they would decimate Kim's army 😅
South korea..😂😂
North Korea has nukes...
And? So like Russia blackmail everyone?
@dennisestradda9746
How is Russia blackmailing? They just say that NATO should not start a direct war with Russia by sending their troops to Ukraine because they maybe will eat nukes for breakfast.
I also think that North Korea would most likely use their nukes.
Having nuclear missiles is one thing; having nuclear missiles that actually work is quite another.
4:36 I’m wondering what map the maritime borders came from, because it doesn’t follow either the UNC Northern Limit Line or North Korea’s claims
Amateurish at best.... the assumptions made here are simply unrealistic...
How so?
@@dragosstanciu9866 As it was mentioned at the beginning, S. Korea's defense budget is larger than North' entire GDP. South has an economy roughly 50 times that of the North. Barring for the use of nukes at early stage, the North doesn't stand a chance in an all-out war. We all know that. He is making an amateurish mistake in comparing the absolute number of equipments and troops... bla.. bla.. Guess what~~ on paper N. Korea has a larger submarine force than the USA... (in number of ships)..... So would you base your analysis on that?
@@manullimGood points that everyone seems to ignore, the amount of "look how much artillery NK has!, what about their thousands of Tanks!
Meanwhile North Korea has submarines for the 1950s, an army woefully outdated, and an airforce that basically doesn't exist. The entire "seoul could be destroyed in a day" narrative is based on if NK would put all its artillery on a thin strip of land, at which point it'd just be fish in a barrel for SK air force
Yeah because it's all about Money? Ukraine ... They combined Military output by the entire west is not enough to compete with the russian output. So yeah it's not only about Money. North korea is not a capitalist country they don't need to Pay for weapons. It's beyond me how people are ignorant to that fact.
@@bluewizzard8843 Way to miss the entire fucking point. South Korea's defense budget is larger than North Korea's entire GDP, this is combined with South Korea's massive domestic arms industry, and vast technological advantage.
North Korea would not win
Why can usa have nukes but not North korea?
Because North Korea is more likely to use those nukes. Countries like Russia, USA and China can show restraint.
@@KungFuWizardOfJesus Use that argument for hiroshima and nagasaki please. Usa's transgressions knows no bounds.
Because the US isn’t a one-man heritable dictatorship.
@@KungFuWizardOfJesus You should ask Japan about all that "restraint" you're preaching about
Are people answering here stupid or just insincere... or just bots.
War with NK means SK become farmland. 😂😂😂😂😂
Well.. Center of Seul is 40km from the border, not all of Seoul. The 2S7 Pion artillery, that is the heaviest and longest range normal artillery Northkorea have, have a range of 37km:
On top of that, they can´t just put all there artillery on a field as close to Seoul as possible, that would let South Korean fighters bomb them with out even crossing the border. That would be incredibly dangerous. probobly would have to put it 10km back, putting basically all of the central city, and majority of the urban area out of reach for North Korean artillery. of cause, several smaller cities and town would still be in reach.
Killing people in the suburbs would do basically nothing to either combat South Korea army efficiency nor the industrial capacity.
The only artilery that can reach Seoul is rocket artillery, those on the other h and have a fairly low firing rate.
A majority of North Korean artillery is 122 and 130mm and 152 howitzers. Those system, while having a fairly high rate of fire, also have a much lower range (about 15-20km). Putting not only all of Seoul but also all of incheon out of range of those units..
We are not done yet. South Korea also have Artillery. The K9 to be precise. And here is where technology matters. Technology allow the K9 to have considerably higher range than the North Korean counterpart. Actually so much so that they can basically sit behind Seoul, lobby the rounds over the city and hit the artillery on the other side .
The South Korean unit have hardened armor and the north Korean have no Armour. This make it so a cluster shell can take out a north Korean unit, but not a south Korean unit. In turn meaning that you don´t have to hit it head on. Increasing the odds of taking them out.
On top of that. South Korean unit have considerably better tracking and aiming system as well as counter artillery radar, allowing them to hit the north unit faster and harder.
While the civilian losses on the south korean side would be large, the military losses would be minimal. On top of that, North Korea would lose most of there artillery with in hours. The largest units would be dead only minutes after the barrage started.
8:30 This map shows hits way beyond the capacity of north Korea.
I would go so far to say that there never been a war that number was the lone advantage. Specially so when the advantages is so small as in this case and where north Korea would attack with both the disadvantage of attacking as well as the technological and training disadvantage.
Where its easy to see advantage for air and naval unit. There is a similar advantage for ground units. We see this in the war in Ukraine where thousands and thousands of Russian tanks have made very little impact. They have proven to be way to easy to take out as well as offensively not having the edge to western tanks, or even IFV that they suppose to have
Pax Americana versus CRYPTIK (China Russia Yemen Pakistan Turkey Iran Korea)
Turkey is a flip flopper, Pakistan and Russia are on the verse of collapse, The Houthis are just drugged up pirates, and China has a lot of internal issues.
I honestly doubt Turkey and Pakistan would want to join such war. If I was them, I would stay out as there's not much to gain but much to lose.
And the biggest winner will likely be Pax Indica i.e. India lol. And no, the US won't be able to force India into joining its war if its own turf isn't being threatened - the Himalayas are a formidable boundary that India would rather not have to supply through (and neither would China - any war between would be a stalemate). Worst comes to worst, Beijing could even just offer to settle some of their disputed lands in exchange for India staying out of it. Either way India comes out unscathed and as the only ray of light in a shattered global economy. Well India, Indonesia and Brazil more like.
@@ArawnOfAnnwn No way would it be Pax Indica. Instead, it would likely birth a multi-polar world order, replacing unipolar Pax Americana.
@@usual-suspect Well yeah, that's why I added Brazil and Indonesia there at the end. Other nations too I guess, but those three are the biggest economies that're likely not gonna be involved in the war.
POV: How to find out whether a media channel is sponsored by North Korea.
Everything is black and white in your little world isn't it?
Must the smartest one in town huh?
@@Food.Consumer Just a retired general who never served in the army.
Based on the results of the equipment sent to Russia, I would severely question the quality of the shells that would be available to launch at South Korea. I would also heavily question how long the North's troops would fight. All in all, this conflict is more likely to end through the Kim dynasty. It remains to be seen whether the North Korean elites will accept his daughter as his heir.
A conflict would involve everything above ground getting flattened by airstrikes NK couldn't hope to defend against.
Bro fell off
14:50 NK selling old soviet ammunition to Russia and making billions to make new ones isn't exactly an assurance that Kim doesn't want war in my opinion
I worry for my family in Seoul as the Americans seem hell-bent on starting a war with China, possibly as soon as next year, for which they will use the South Koreans as an attack dog. Not long ago we were all Koreans, no north or south. It is largely foreign meddling which has created this tragic and unstable circumstance. I just hope for peace and prosperity for all.
You like to underestimate North Korea. So North Korea doesn't have air defense that can shoot down South Korea airplanes? Just like you underestimate Russia at every point in your videos. Look what is happening in Ukraine. The North koreans have not forgotten the humiliation of the 1950 and the will fight till the last msn standing. Is America or South Korea prepare to do that? I doubt it. At least North korea is fighting for a noble cause. Keep underestimating NK ICBM until one will land in California. Bias at all turn.
What happened in Ukraine was that we learned that Russian equipment is significantly worst against American weapons then previously believed, not better
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South Korea is much more militarily capable than Ukraine. NK and SK have been competing at an arms race for 70 years now.
SK is a military powerhouse where they make their own weapons. Just look at the massive deals with European countries and SK.
It is not a comparison. Also, Ukraine is fighting against Russia directly. However, NK vs SK will be like a proxy war. NK is nowhere near the military capability of Russia. So, in short, SK is not Ukraine and NK is not Russia. Totally different analogy.
NK population: 25 million
SK population: 51 million
NK has smaller land, less than half the population.
GDP? Let’s not even get started. You sound like SK has been sleeping on its military development.
It’s simple maths, more money = more investment. = better equipment.
SK has been making crazy deals with other countries in exporting their tanks, fighter jets, missiles, howitzers, etc.
@@scpgaming-452 this shilling really did not age well
Man they’ve had 50 YEARS to move all of their important things away from Seoul, if this scenario happens they brought it on themselves ! Move that shit to the south coast where the US can help more and they’d be out of range of some of NK’s stuff, crazy