251 goals from 274 starts as a player until knee injury cut his career short. 92% goalscoring record. What he would have been worth as a player nowadays?
***** Clough would eat Jose alive in a battle of words; the only manager who could probably match ol' Big'Ead was his own former player Roy Keane, who he once claimed "painted his walls black and sat in a corner".
@@stuartwilliams7912 Hi Stuart, Recon Ali had heard of Brian but havnt read his book thou.Brian was a Momentous manager n should of been our England manager but not saying the right comments went against him.Kind regards Glynn n greetings from Stourbridge West Midlands UK 🤝
Football is a game of the people and Brian made it so, he spoke directly did not mince his words and thats why he was so great we will never see his like again.
Some of my family are Derby fans one of my cousins said when he left Derby he didn't come out of his bedroom for a week he was devastated and he said everyone in the town was going to go on strike unless he was reinstated.
We older people saw it! At the end of the 80´s United were in disarray and Cloughie was still going strong at Forest. He won a number of times including an FA Cup quarter-final. But then United started to become what we know today and Clough(and Forest) were in decline from then on.
How brilliant would it have been if Cloughie was in Ali's corner for a fight as a one off? imagine the comedic satire before that fight would have been hilarious
To beat that superb Leeds side in 1972 was some achievement. My father was a regular at Upton Park - to witness Leeds at that time he said they were the greatest football team ever to grace a pitch..
Clough sums up the current US national football league. What use to be a relaxing Sunday afternoon has become boring rubbish. The media over analyzing everything. Referees being constantly scrutinized. I just finished provided you don't kiss me: 20 years with Brian Clough. Clough must have been a genius.
+Gary Schultz He was and here in Nottingham, an unfashionable city with a previously unfashionable club, he took them to the pinnacle of European football. There is a statue at Speakers Corner in the Town Square which is testimony in how highly he is regarded: Cloughie could talk but usually what came out of his mouth is what the ordinary supporter wanted said about the game, the ruling body and the endless waffle that the media were/are prone to spouting out. We shall never see his like again. Unfortunately.
I would like to find out what ugly mischievous forces have been at work these last 40 or so years to ensure we no longer have men like Ali or Clough in this world, great bold individuals with that spirit that makes a man a man and what makes a man a man isn't some masculine macho characteristic, it's grace, creativity of mind and beauty. So seeing as we don't have men like them in this world anymore and I believe there are certain forces who don't want such individuals in this world, I've endeavored to find out why that is so I can not only understand these extraordinarily disharmonious and ugly times we're now in but why certain forces have gone to such lengths to ensure we are now neutered at the core and that no such individuals as Clough and Ali who for the common man in the 1970s were not only inspirational human beings but in this age where men are generally mediocre conformist cowards or those in the spotlight are worthless narcissistic egotists, you suddenly realize what extraordinary human beings they were with that light that no longer shines in this spiritually dark age we're now in.
Nostalgia is what it is. If these people existed today you would probably deride them as loudmouths and braggarts, rather than venerating them for these same traits. Stop pretending the world was better back then. You'd be a hell of a lot happier.
Brian Clough made Martin O'Neill the manager he is today, its a shame that O'Neill has never been given a chance at a big club we need for manager's like him in the game.
I like Cloughie cos he fucked everyone off. And then he turned them all to love him. He made his enemies love him. He turned himself from the most hated person in football, into the most successful person in football, and into the most wanted person in football. He became the best. No one will do what de did. Getting 2 shit clubs from the 2nd division, turing them into champions of England, one into Champions of Europe. Yeah, no one will do that again. RIP Brian Clough. Truly a f legend.
Riveting stuff to watch even today. Footballs never been the same without him. Closest thing to him today is Mourinho. Only thing is that some of what Mourinho says can be very distasteful.
An outstanding footballer & manager! The England football team are still paying the price for the failure of a spineless FA to appoint him as England manager in 1977. This was the start of England's long journey to mediocrity.
What a great manager he was. What a loss for the England team. I say that as a Welshman; would we have beaten England at Wembley in 77 if Clough had been manager? I doubt it. He was a fantastic team builder, could have built England into world beaters. Derby and Notts Forest have never been the same before or since; what he achieved with them was little short of miraculous
Brian Clough was what we Americans call, "A real piece of work." And that means exactly what foreigners think it means. Yanks love Brian Clough!! The Damned United was a big art house hit here and even my American football loving friends were over heard saying, "Don't be the wandering Jew!!"
Haha good point, he could try and play both I suppose! He's certainly the only actor I could see playing both unless they got David Frost in to interview Sheen playing Clough
Despite the fact that Clough himself said Mourinho was his spiritual successor? (Though he joked that he didn't like him because he was better looking.)
greatest England manager never picked to do the job,the FA are as big a joke now as they were then. Cov fan btw and hate Forest but he was something else...RIP
I don't want to sound like a boring old fart but how bland the modern game is. Players, pundits, managers, all had ten times the intelligence and charisma that todays bunch of grey men. There area couple of exceptions but, on the whole,it's like night and day.
@UncleMikeNJ firstly. no one can doubt his achievements. My point is that the english books that have been written about this guy purely concern his ego / personality, and not anything concerning tactical legacy. like herrera, sacchi actually invented a style that was not seen before. styles and formations that are in every tactics and formations books studied by coaches around the world. this cannot be said about clough.
It's criminal that he never managed England. For my money he is the greatest English club manager of my lifetime bar none. By that I mean he was English unlike Sir Alex Ferguson who for my money is the greatest manager of an English club of my lifetime. Bob Paisley ran a very close third. Mourinho and Guardiola aren't even close to those three men.
@@wonjubhoy You forget Ferguson also won a European Cup winners cup with Aberdeen and at the same time broke the dominance of Celtic and Rangers over the Scots Leagues. While I do not for one moment belittle the outstanding achievements of Bob Paisley I think winning in Europe with a Scottish team was actually a greater accomplishment especially given how small a club Aberdeen were considered to be at the time. Anyway, in order to clarify my first post I'd say Clough was the greatest English manager, Paisley just barely behind him and Bobby Robson third. But for best non-English manager of an English club ever as much as it pains me to say it I think it has to be Ferguson. However, I can't help but wonder what Clough and Paisley would have accomplished with the kind of resources, both in money and support structures that Ferguson had at United. I suspect if they'd had access to the kind of facilities and other things available to Ferguson we'd still be talking about Forest and Liverpool being the 'big two'.
All Managers have people working for or with them and if their successful, they can thank them. It's down to who has the final say on the team sheet. It can't be a joint decision. My guess it was Clough.
Did Revie score 251 goals in 274 apps as a player? And Clough's management style was the polar opposite of Revie's Revie was great....Clough was just greater
Old Cloughie aka auld big ead as well. He was a one off like Sir Alex Ferguson Sir Matt Busby and Bill Shankly they will never ever be another one like him again
You ask if it is right or wrong. I say it is wrong because moral integrity > achievements. You want society to idolize people who have great character and morality along with their worldly achievements.
***** Very fair point I suppose, I agree. Society should technically not look up to Mourinho, in that sense of course. When replying to samer I really didn't consider the shite he spouts to the media every week, it's all nonsense but nevertheless it's interesting to hear what's next on his agenda. But you know, winning the European cup with Porto, then the Premiership in his first season and then retaining it (sure, he had the Russian money, but still...) and winning the treble in Italy rings heaps of charisma about the guy, which I think makes him pretty special at his job. But yeah, he's a massive dick sometimes and it's pretty frustrating coming from an Arsenal supporter here.
Clough was a great Manager but that is EXACTLY what Shankly did! When he took over Liverpool they had a ramshackle Stadium and were nearly bottom of Division 2 with no history. He built and created the Liverpool Empire that Paisly continued. I do not support Derby/Forest or Liverpool but Millwall who I first went to see in 1961, a mere 49 years ago..lol
Im Arsenal but always loved Clough we all did !!
European Cups won by Clough - 2
European Cups won by Revie - 0
The greatest manager the England national side never had!
251 goals from 274 starts as a player until knee injury cut his career short.
92% goalscoring record. What he would have been worth as a player nowadays?
catherine Wynne-Paton 20 million pounds
Yes people forget he was a phenomenal striker that's why he knew what he was talking about when he was coaching.
...in the Second Division. Certainly a good striker, but not convinced.
@@willhk4809 They used to say that about Steve Bull he soon answered that by scoring goals for England and he was in third division then.
if only Brian and Mohammad Ali went 12 rounds...of press conferences!
*****
Clough would eat Jose alive in a battle of words; the only manager who could probably match ol' Big'Ead was his own former player Roy Keane, who he once claimed "painted his walls black and sat in a corner".
+SantomPh Jose can speak 6 languages and isn't alcoholic so I doubt it.
yep that deserves a good thumbs up
B
Ha no one one could out talk Ali.
Pure gold what a treat watching Cassius clay Muhammad Ali and Brian clough verbally sparing .terrific
Working class hero our Brian.
this is epic. i still can´t believe MUHAMMED ALI , LEGEND, heard of and jokes around with Brian. Just brilliant
He probably hadn't heard of Brian before ITV asked him to do that piece. Just a bit of fun which Ali was always up for of course.
You haven't read Cloughie's autobiography I take it?
@@stuartwilliams7912 Hi Stuart, Recon Ali had heard of Brian but havnt read his book thou.Brian was a Momentous manager n should of been our England manager but not saying the right comments went against him.Kind regards Glynn n greetings from Stourbridge West Midlands UK 🤝
He was the greatest manager England never had
R.I.P Brian Clough
"I want to fight him." Makes me laugh every time I hear that 🤣
Football is a game of the people and Brian made it so, he spoke directly did not mince his words and thats why he was so great we will never see his like again.
RIP Muhammad Ali.
Brian Clough was a great player... And as a couch he was absolutely genius!
Sofa so good! 😂
Some of my family are Derby fans one of my cousins said when he left Derby he didn't come out of his bedroom for a week he was devastated and he said everyone in the town was going to go on strike unless he was reinstated.
This is great. Wish the rest of it was here. Thanks for posting anyway. God bless Brian Clough....Legend
Cloughie is a genius. R.I.P legend
The Legend himself. DCFC till I Die.
What an absolute F*****' legend. How you are missed Mr. Clough.
Fantastic manager. I loved the movie. That thing with Ali is supper funny.
RIP ALI and CLOUGH. Real men
We older people saw it! At the end of the 80´s United were in disarray and Cloughie was still going strong at Forest. He won a number of times including an FA Cup quarter-final. But then United started to become what we know today and Clough(and Forest) were in decline from then on.
I like Brian Clough.
Brian Clough. greatest manager ever
How did he get on at Leeds
The same as any Manager in the World b4 or since would have done...
Matt Colley well he wasn't was he lol gimmick
Greatest football manager ever
I would have loved to have seen Ferguson v Clough.
World master class manager he was
How brilliant would it have been if Cloughie was in Ali's corner for a fight as a one off? imagine the comedic satire before that fight would have been hilarious
To beat that superb Leeds side in 1972 was some achievement. My father was a regular at Upton Park - to witness Leeds at that time he said they were the greatest football team ever to grace a pitch..
From the ITV program shown earlier in the year. Almost an hour long, an absolute gem.
Clough sums up the current US national football league. What use to be a relaxing Sunday afternoon has become boring rubbish. The media over analyzing everything. Referees being constantly scrutinized. I just finished provided you don't kiss me: 20 years with Brian Clough. Clough must have been a genius.
+Gary Schultz He was and here in Nottingham, an unfashionable city with a previously unfashionable club, he took them to the pinnacle of European football. There is a statue at Speakers Corner in the Town Square which is testimony in how highly he is regarded: Cloughie could talk but usually what came out of his mouth is what the ordinary supporter wanted said about the game, the ruling body and the endless waffle that the media were/are prone to spouting out. We shall never see his like again. Unfortunately.
+Kris Magi Amen
I would like to find out what ugly mischievous forces have been at work these last 40 or so years to ensure we no longer have men like Ali or Clough in this world, great bold individuals with that spirit that makes a man a man and what makes a man a man isn't some masculine macho characteristic, it's grace, creativity of mind and beauty. So seeing as we don't have men like them in this world anymore and I believe there are certain forces who don't want such individuals in this world, I've endeavored to find out why that is so I can not only understand these extraordinarily disharmonious and ugly times we're now in but why certain forces have gone to such lengths to ensure we are now neutered at the core and that no such individuals as Clough and Ali who for the common man in the 1970s were not only inspirational human beings but in this age where men are generally mediocre conformist cowards or those in the spotlight are worthless narcissistic egotists, you suddenly realize what extraordinary human beings they were with that light that no longer shines in this spiritually dark age we're now in.
Nostalgia is what it is. If these people existed today you would probably deride them as loudmouths and braggarts, rather than venerating them for these same traits. Stop pretending the world was better back then. You'd be a hell of a lot happier.
Fine words Ken. Ignore the z man.
"Good managers make good sides"......classic!
What a legend!
This was shown on the BBC again a few months ago! This was not on ITV!
Zlatan can only act like Ali......he fails to showcase charisma like Ali.....
Why do people compare all the time? Both are winners in their respective professions
White Tony
Just stupid you ignorant
A.derby.legend.
Brian Clough made Martin O'Neill the manager he is today, its a shame that O'Neill has never been given a chance at a big club we need for manager's like him in the game.
celtic is a big club. One of the the biggest in football if you understand football.
He took Celtic to their 1st European final for 33 years. He knocked Ajax, Liverpool and Barcelona out of Europe while the manager of Celtic.
Brian Clough talked the talk and walked the walk. And then talked some more.
I like Cloughie cos he fucked everyone off. And then he turned them all to love him. He made his enemies love him. He turned himself from the most hated person in football, into the most successful person in football, and into the most wanted person in football. He became the best. No one will do what de did. Getting 2 shit clubs from the 2nd division, turing them into champions of England, one into Champions of Europe. Yeah, no one will do that again. RIP Brian Clough. Truly a f legend.
The greatest British football manager ever
The greatest manager ever after most Scottish managers!!
Clough V Ali...Clough by verbal KO in the first round.
respect !!!
Great post. Thanks. Is it possible to find the full documentary?
He's on!
Ali the Greatest and Clough the Best.
omg, at first glance I thought that was michael sheen! Wow
Brian Clough was genius!
Riveting stuff to watch even today. Footballs never been the same without him. Closest thing to him today is Mourinho. Only thing is that some of what Mourinho says can be very distasteful.
+capokhatpin Nowt like Clough then...
spoke what the average man in the street wanted to say, spoke the truth, upset the establishment
To say to the best boxer that ever lived well I’m gonna fight him just shows how quick and great he was always spoke his mind RIP
A World Arrogance Face Off -
Ali v Cloughie
Revie was a visionary of the English game, without Revie there would never have been brian clough
An outstanding footballer & manager! The England football team are still paying the price for the failure of a spineless FA to appoint him as England manager in 1977. This was the start of England's long journey to mediocrity.
What a great manager he was. What a loss for the England team. I say that as a Welshman; would we have beaten England at Wembley in 77 if Clough had been manager? I doubt it. He was a fantastic team builder, could have built England into world beaters. Derby and Notts Forest have never been the same before or since; what he achieved with them was little short of miraculous
Brian Clough was what we Americans call, "A real piece of work." And that means exactly what foreigners think it means. Yanks love Brian Clough!!
The Damned United was a big art house hit here and even my American football loving friends were over heard saying, "Don't be the wandering Jew!!"
Why oh why was Eric Idle not considered to play Clough in The Damned United?
Cool Coach !! BEST
you can buy this documentary on itunes!
a true legend
A Great Man
Genius - he took 2 footballing nobody clubs and made them into the best in Europe.RIP Cloughie - from a Villa fan
his mam really bob wilson mind...She would have a new son called bob wilson clough...legend rip
Haha good point, he could try and play both I suppose! He's certainly the only actor I could see playing both unless they got David Frost in to interview Sheen playing Clough
The Greatest
Oh hang on I also remeber seeing ITV doing one of these also!
It's on here.
theres was only one Brian Clough and he was the best
Despite the fact that Clough himself said Mourinho was his spiritual successor? (Though he joked that he didn't like him because he was better looking.)
@sefgrt
I agree whole heartedly. Good on you.
Meaning they waited too damn long to make a movie about Clough.
He was Mourinho of the day, Mourinho was the result of a one night stand, when clough went abroad with Forest.
Who does he think he is?
greatest England manager never picked to do the job,the FA are as big a joke now as they were then.
Cov fan btw and hate Forest but he was something else...RIP
If he had been been manager the probabliity is we would have qualified for the 1978 world cup.
Brian fukin clough, only one of my own, Middlesbrough football club lucky boro fc liveforever by order of the peaky blinders Rkid 🎉
Legend!! Cloughies Red Army!
@smilerboyboy and how did you work that one out?
I don't want to sound like a boring old fart but how bland the modern game is. Players, pundits, managers, all had ten times the intelligence and charisma that todays bunch of grey men. There area couple of exceptions but, on the whole,it's like night and day.
@UncleMikeNJ firstly. no one can doubt his achievements. My point is that the english books that have been written about this guy purely concern his ego / personality, and not anything concerning tactical legacy. like herrera, sacchi actually invented a style that was not seen before. styles and formations that are in every tactics and formations books studied by coaches around the world. this cannot be said about clough.
It's criminal that he never managed England. For my money he is the greatest English club manager of my lifetime bar none. By that I mean he was English unlike Sir Alex Ferguson who for my money is the greatest manager of an English club of my lifetime. Bob Paisley ran a very close third. Mourinho and Guardiola aren't even close to those three men.
Paisley won 3 European cups and a uefa cup to Ferguson's 2 European cups and cup winners cup while the latter was in England. Paisley was better.
@@wonjubhoy You forget Ferguson also won a European Cup winners cup with Aberdeen and at the same time broke the dominance of Celtic and Rangers over the Scots Leagues. While I do not for one moment belittle the outstanding achievements of Bob Paisley I think winning in Europe with a Scottish team was actually a greater accomplishment especially given how small a club Aberdeen were considered to be at the time. Anyway, in order to clarify my first post I'd say Clough was the greatest English manager, Paisley just barely behind him and Bobby Robson third. But for best non-English manager of an English club ever as much as it pains me to say it I think it has to be Ferguson. However, I can't help but wonder what Clough and Paisley would have accomplished with the kind of resources, both in money and support structures that Ferguson had at United. I suspect if they'd had access to the kind of facilities and other things available to Ferguson we'd still be talking about Forest and Liverpool being the 'big two'.
what movie is that song at 1:18 from at
All Managers have people working for or with them and if their successful, they can thank them. It's down to who has the final say on the team sheet. It can't be a joint decision. My guess it was Clough.
What is the documentary called?
not that they would but if they ever made a movie about his frost interview at 2.42, which one wouldn't be played by michael sheen
so we've all got it wrong then brian?... yes i'm afraid you have!!!! love it
Did Revie score 251 goals in 274 apps as a player?
And Clough's management style was the polar opposite of Revie's
Revie was great....Clough was just greater
I like cloughie too but those were 2nd division goals lets not forget that
Old Cloughie aka auld big ead as well. He was a one off like Sir Alex Ferguson Sir Matt Busby and Bill Shankly they will never ever be another one like him again
And to think now people idolize managers like jose morinho (face palm)
Is it wrong for people to idolize an enormously successful manager?
marqueskart A crude, hypocritical bully who is unethical and disgraceful at times, yes it is wrong.
I speak of his achievements, not his character specifically.
You ask if it is right or wrong. I say it is wrong because moral integrity > achievements. You want society to idolize people who have great character and morality along with their worldly achievements.
***** Very fair point I suppose, I agree. Society should technically not look up to Mourinho, in that sense of course. When replying to samer I really didn't consider the shite he spouts to the media every week, it's all nonsense but nevertheless it's interesting to hear what's next on his agenda. But you know, winning the European cup with Porto, then the Premiership in his first season and then retaining it (sure, he had the Russian money, but still...) and winning the treble in Italy rings heaps of charisma about the guy, which I think makes him pretty special at his job. But yeah, he's a massive dick sometimes and it's pretty frustrating coming from an Arsenal supporter here.
Because Peter Taylor retired right?
And how did Derby do without him?
Top Man say no more
His wife seemed so nice hope he was an easier person in privet
the 1 don't like it is DONALD REAVIE....CLOUGH WAS THE BEST
Derby's chairman at the time was a fool, because Clough could've won Derby the two European cups rather than shitty forest.
xxx9518 Baaaaa hold still
he won't have strong character like today if clough didn't punch him
actually yes he did.
Brian Clough on David Frost? God I'd love to see Michael Sheen reenact that little doozy.
Clough was a great Manager but that is EXACTLY what Shankly did!
When he took over Liverpool they had a ramshackle Stadium and were nearly bottom of Division 2 with no history.
He built and created the Liverpool Empire that Paisly continued.
I do not support Derby/Forest or Liverpool but Millwall who I first went to see in 1961, a mere 49 years ago..lol
I would pay to see that!
Who would have won a talking fight between them two the result a Draw