50+1 rule in the Bundesliga: Why everyone hates RB Leipzig!
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2018
- The 50+1 rule is the beating heart of the Bundesliga! Why is the 50+1 rule so special in German football, and what makes it so important to clubs and fans in the Bundesliga? Should 50+1 be scrapped to end Bayern's dominance and make the Bundesliga more exciting? Or is it too important and too valuable? And what has RB Leipzig got to do with it? Ed explains! Tell us what you think in the comments...
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That 50+1 rule is looking especially attractive today...
All European league should consider the 50+1 rule now.
All top 5 leagues at least
yeah its great for bayern LOL
@D HJ Karl Heinz Rumenigge wants to abolish it, which suggests that Bayern would benefit from it as well. They would attract more money than their rivals as they're also in the richest part of the country.
@@blessingmutale3495 The problem is some clubs are too large to be bought. Examples are PSG,United and City
Nobody hates Leipzig, they hate RB!
We all hate the club. #neinzurb
And then they are Bayern München fans😂😂 compared to them, RB is a pretty nice club
@@danii5630 Don't you think the brainless Bayern bashing is getting old? Bayern is far over 100 years old with a long tradition and alot of success. They get a shitload of money from selling their products and ads, compared to RBL which was basically invented and almost solely financed by Red Bull. The only reason you idiots hate Bayern Munich is because your clubs never manage to compete against them. Myths like a "Bayern bonus" have long been busted so do yourself a favor and stop making a fool out of yourself.
@@t.g.5256 money > success, and if other teams have good players, Bayern is buying them dead. That's why soccer nowadays is so boring...it's more management simulator than real skill
@@danii5630 Bayern buying dead other teams may have been true 10-15 years ago. Look at the stats, Dortmund have surpassed Bayern in investing in other Bundeliga teams years ago. Also do you know that Bayern has already saved multiple other german clubs from bankruptcy, including their city rival 1860 München??
But Schalke didn't lose Özil to a bigger club. They just thought he wouldn't be good enough, so he went to Bremen - not really a bigger club.
At this point of time, Bremen was a bigger club.
@@mick9857 no they weren't
No, and also to the other user, no Bremen wasn't bigger. Fans, Managers and Coaches all were sure that Özil was the biggest talent back to that time and they've all wanted him to stay. But not at any costs. Back in that time Özil's father was his agent and after his son's debut he got greedy as fuck. Özil himself got a little bit pissed that Rakitic got the no.10 shirt and not him and his father started demanding a huge salary and bonuses. Both parties end in huge dispute and they couldn't agree on a new contract. Schalke wanted at least some money and Bremen came around with an acceptable offer (to that time 5m were a lot for a talent that just played ~30 games and only had 6 months of contract left). Bremen wasn't a really big club anymore but they've still played international for years and could guarantee Özil enough playing time (as he still was a very young talent). In Bremen and at Real he still had many problems with his father being his manager and they ended up in a huge fight. Özil himself still loves Schalke as his favorite club and admitted that it was a huge mistake leaving the club, it all tunred out good for him, but he admitted that he had luck in finding a good club with Bremen and that it was his father's greed that 'forced' him to leave.
@@mick9857 nah it's like going from arsenal to Tottenham, very similar in the scope of German football at least at that time period, Bremen are shit now
@@krum6334 doch, Bremen war leicht besser. Halt immer nur um einen Platz und paar Punkte in der Tabelle. Aber der Unterschied war halt nicht so groß wie heutzutage HSV und Bayern zum Beispiel
50+1 would be better if all leagues implemented this.
Oh yes, all leagues and please stand up for the ffp rule equally. English clubs dont't have 50+1 but what really messes things up is ignoring and sneaking around the ffp. Many teams (with less money) get banned from international tournaments every year, or are forced to sell all their best players (Roma) because they spend more money than they generate but ManCity (and Paris SG) are just doing what they want because they threat to suit the uefa to death... there's a really good explanation about that by the tifo football channel
Yeah bundesliga teams hands are tied down, so every European team should suffer the same, right?
Robert Sprinke because a lot members from this clubs are in the executive commitee of the uefa
@@luislptigres what are you talking?
Football was always a sport for the masses, just look at england with mk dons. Much tradition etc. Or look at france, with psg the title is basically set before the ball is even touched.
50+1 hands the power to the club, which results in less high money, which is spend between clubs (like 222mio € for neymar). And if the owner loses his interested, the club is milked to the last drop and will find itself a few leauges below without money and if they are smart, without fans.
Its not about tieing down to something, its more like, you take away crystal meth from junkies, so they can get in life.
And this is exactly why the Bundesliga is the best league. I’m not biased. At all.
"Got big money to hide? Buy a football club."
"Not in Germany, mate."
Well, there is the dubious Hasan Ismaik at 1860 Munich...
only if Mr White new of this strategy
@@lionmori that rule was put in place in 98 but who is that anyway
@@vanshgupta2392 1860 Munich is another club mate... its not bayern
As an English Bundesliga fan the 50+1 rule was what got me interested in the Bundesliga
Alex Purvis it’s the same here in Sweden. My team Malmö FF has despite this reached the europa and champions league and we even won our europa league group last year. We’ve knocked out red bull Salzburg twice in the qualifying rounds which as a 51% rule team is a huge achievement
Alex I m feel so sorry for that. Please don't go. RB is the most hate club ever and nobody in Germany like this club ecxept the Leipzig rb fans.
Yeah bet
That rule may be a good idea, but we still got several clubs like Wolfsburg, Leipzig, Hoffenheim, Leverkusen for which there are exceptions.
@@svenheimes9379 I know you just wanted to explain it to him easily, but please don't compare hoffenheim to RedBull and also please don't compare Leverkusen and Wolfsburg with the other two clubs. I don't want to say, that they don't do anything wrong, but RedBull is just on a different Level.
"Premier league is pretty competitive"
*Proceeds to show slide of 6 winners in over 25 years*
La liga: compet- what?
Classic DW.
Well what do you expect?
certainly more competitive than other leagues that i know
Alan Smithee but there’s always the chance of teams like Man U losing to Newcastle or Man City losing to Wolves every weekend
Those Spanish, British and Italian clubs are so deep in debt they should be bankrupt. All leagues should have a 50+1 rule!
Spain's la liga has no greedy rich owners
@@luismartinezcolom2511 valencia's peter lim be like
At least Real Madrid and Barcelona are fully owned by the club members and all profit has to be invested back into the club.
@@Palarci Same with Atléti.
@@luismartinezcolom2511 this aged well
There is a reason why schalke cant hold his player
We say in germany "auf der ruhr ist nie ruhe" ;) (there is never peace in the ruhr)
So as Dortmund
What is ruhr bitch
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@@razorblade7486 It's a region of Germany, bitch. It's industrial heart. Google Ruhr Valley
@@razorblade7486 the ruhr was an area in germany demilitarised after The Great War, and while Germany were repaying the debt of war, the ruhr was raided to help repay some of the debt, there was a campaign to get the french out of the ruhr and all the workers there went on strike whenever the french took payment
In Romania private investors have ruined the biggest clubs, including the '86 Champions League winners Steaua Bucharest, that is now playing in the 4th division. Football is a passion, not a business!
Against modern football and congrats to Bundesliga for having such a great rule implemented.
Am crezut că steaua este FCSB?
@@nicholasvogel908 ai crezut prost.
Not ture fcsb are still up there
@@OM-AR2008 fcsb is a fraud. The real Steaua is playing in the 2nd division now.
Your man is like a discount tom hiddleston
brian_98 damn😂
brian_98 I KNEW HE REMINDED ME OF SOMEONE 😂 thank you!
I actually really like the video and not trying to bash him. Just when I saw the resemblance I had to say it😂
brian_98 I’d consider it a compliment tbh
Btec Hiddleston
you said a differnt team has won the premier league then showed 10000 Man United logos
He said in the last 9 years
Oof
@@TaylorMade-ft6zd which makes the statement completely irrelevant, since, looking with a wider scope it obviously isn't about whether a club is supporter owned or investor owned...
It meant two times in a row i think in the past 9 years
Lol
50 + 1 rule should exist in every single league.
Yes, because nothing says "sport" and "fun" like Bayern Munich winning the title every single season. The 50+1 rule is a scam designed to appeal to a sense of virtue and purism, but with the secret aim of maintaining the status quo of Bayern as eternal champions. Smart people like the Germans shouldn't fall for it... much less tolerate it.
@@kodiak64 lf the 50 + 1 rule existed in England, Bury wouldnt have gone under and my club Bolton wouldn't have risked it either. Who cares about the football, no fan deserves to lose their football team.
@@samsofield3059 I don't regard the club as an end in itself; winning trophies is the true end, so if a club only exists to give its fans something to follow, that's not sport; it's a social life, a substitute for enjoying sporting success. It's like my club (Everton) and their tripe about "Everton in the Community" which is a feel-good diversion from the fact that the team is and has been useless for decades.
50+1 is designed to tap into the idea that being a fan is the reason why a club exists and that fans can congratulate themselves for sticking by their team regardless of how bad the team is, whereas I take the view that winning trophies is why a club should exist. And there is no bigger barrier in Germany to any club (Bayern aside) winning major honours than the hateful 50+1 rule.
Sure, support your team (as I do) even when they are hopeless (as mine is), but don't be manipulated into being taken for granted by the club or conned into thinking that fandom is the highest end for following your team. Winning trophies is where the joy is.
@@kodiak64 A football club is a beacon of hope and lifes are built around them. Just cause my club dosent win trophies doesn't mean its not a sport. Winning trophies is a bonus added on to passion and love shared for the club.
@@kodiak64 and you say winning trophies is where the joy is. Everton havent won anything for years. So if your saying the trophies bring the joy for you then why do u still support them? You clearly know that its not just a sport
If we should hate leipzig then we might as well hate
City
Psg
Chelsea to some degree
Lets hate rich private owner and the capitalist system which allow greedy men to have such power
Chelsea?
King Furi long live stalin XD
Agreed. We should hate those clubs. Fuck them.
We do
Everyone seems to point out the last 6 seasons, but don't we all know the 50+1 rule was also around when Bayern wasn't winning every title??
Other leagues may have given in to greed and money, but that's no reason for the Bundesliga to follow. Bayern isn't dominating the league solely because of the 50+1 rule. Lets look at seasons 98 - 2009: 6 different Bundesliga champions during this time VS 3 different champions in the EPL. (Dortmund also won again 2 more times after this)
Bayern have become a much better side with a way deeper squad than almost every other team in Europe, so they can compete in 3 different competitions without losing consistency - this is why they've consistently won the Bundesliga for 6 seasons straight and attract the best players as a result. - & a lot of this is down to the increased investment in youth systems in Germany starting in the early 2000's. Bayern's youth system produces players better than most.
If the 50+1 rule is abolished, Bundesliga will turn into most other leagues: Only teams with rich foreign owners can win, nobody cares about local players and their development (or the club or fans), the national team suffers as a result, and even the club teams aren't as consistent since they keep buying and selling several players every season. - Sure this season wasn't the greatest for Bundesliga in CL, but look at every other season for the past 6 -7 years: The Bundesliga has done very well in Europe (During this same time that Bayern has been dominating this "noncompetitive" league).
Great comment! I agree that Bayern aren't dominating becuase of 50+1, but aboloshing it could help to even things up a little. It might be a tad harsh on Bayern though, who have earned their dominance through sound decision making and giving youth team players a chance, as you've said. But you make an excellent point about the Bundesliga being different from other leagues and personally I think that's a great thing...Thanks for your insightful comment.
Ed McCambridge - thanks! I 100% agree with your comment as well. Abolishing it would even things up faster, but I think it's better to let it happen naturally over time and keep the Bundesliga the way it's meant to be!
@nov 8 yeah and dortmund doesnt. Do your research first bro.
@nov 8 they dont, just check the facts. There is a ranking you can google, wich teams buy the most players form other Bundesliga teams. Bayern isnt even in the top 5.
Latest Player from Bayerns youth academy was Thomas Müller. Many talented players from Bayern Youth Academy Play for other Clubs in Germany or never started a career as Professional footballplayer
One little mistake: Red Bull didn't buy the club, they just bought the right to start in the 5th tier.
Before that they tried to get into some other clubs (St. Pauli, 1860 Munich and Fortuna Düsseldorf) but that failed due to fan and club protest
In 2018:- People are skeptic about 50+1 rule
In 2021:- This is the rule that can save football from greedy owners
Comparing 25 years to 5 years.
That's the infamous quote of cherry picking something something statistics.
The last 5 years are included in the 25 years tho...
True
@@error-dc2ox ture but, United won 2 in a row 4 times 3 in a row 1 time and 13 times in thise 25 years.
And that's why German clubs are not in this new and ridiculous European super league (yet).
Ever!
50+1 Rule sounds like it was made by Seto Kaiba
Who is that?
Screw the rule, he has money
Donald trump it is so one from yu-gio
Kaiba ,huh ? No problem wait I'm going to call Exodia
@@user-lk7zk3oc4y loool, I just wanted to say to Marvin's comment: "or Donald Trump" ...but Donald is already here xD
The XI of Schalke players is a bit unclear. Huntelaar left, because he was too old, Höwedes was forced out by then coach Tedesco and Özil went to Werder Bremen, because he saw a brighter perspective as a young player...
Lime Lime lol German communist
Yeah and Rakitić went to Sevilla and not directly to Barça, like that xi seems to think
Was is n mit dir falsch??? Die Bundesliga ist tiefster Kapitalismus.... WEIST DU WEM DU HIER FEÖHNST??? DAS IST DER FEIND
özil was a greedy young player thats why they let him go
@C.H.A.D Bravo nazis were capitalist, ask Hugo boss and Wolswagen. and plz we are talking football not politics
Who is here after RB Leipzig reached semi finals in Champiom League
Haha me
Me
I’ve only recently gotten into football and it’s things like this that I find fascinating. I also like the promotion and relegation system which would never fly in sports leagues here in the US. I appreciate how the fans are a part of the organization and not just end users for billionaires to suck dry. Plus you’ve got clubs like Union Berlin fans literally bleeding for their team.
Leipzig haven't exactly gone out and spent hundreds of millions like a PSG or a Man City. In fact if you factor in the sales of guys like Naby Keita, Oliver Burke, Bruma etc then they haven't really spent all that much. they've been quite suave in the transfer market identifying young players for the future at low prices. They also use their feeder clubs well. Tyler Adams has come in from New York Red Bulls and they've brought in some really good players from Salzburg. Even Bernardo began his career at Red Bull Brazil, then moved on to Salzburg then Leipzeg. They're by far the most equipped team to topple Bayern and they will probably do it spending a fraction of what Bayern do.
@MrMagoo That only happens sometimes. They have bought players from other clubs. But even so, if they discover them and intentionally put them at lower clubs to develop then who cares? They're just moving their own money across.
bro dont talk like u know something for example they spent the most a 5th4th3th2th bundesligateam has ever spent . they bought themselves to the 1 bundsliga
@@elfenlied105 Homes. I'm not a mathematician. But surely they'd have to spend 1st1st1st1st to buy themselves to the 1 Bundsliga.
That is one of the reasons why we hate RB. This feeder team bullshit. Good talent comes up in the US, Austria, Brazil etc and the "main" club Leipzig just comes around and picks a player up for €2M when any other club would have to pay at least €10M.
Even RB Salzburg hates RB Leipzig because they can just take away their best players for basically nothing since the money stays in the RB Ecosystem and just gets reinvested into Leipzig.
Btw here's a list of every RedBull team:
RB Salzburg
RedBull New York
RedBull Brasil
RaBa Leipzig
RedBull Bragantino
Red Bull Ghana (they're gone since 2014 but still)
Actually, they’ve spent 100+ million euro’s on training facilities, to groom the talents they buy. It’s less annoying then man city or psg, but still it’s like you play fifa career mode and put all the money on scouts. Also, Red Bull, the company, sucks
when he said shalke amongst the best clubs in the beginning I almost died 🤣
The video is from 4 years ago during the season in which Schalke literally finished 2nd in the Bundesliga...
well u never seen german football.
Mesut Özil was a youth player at Schalke who hasn´t made many minutes for the first team. So Werder bought him were he had the oppertunity to make the breakthrought. Werder will never have enough money to outbid a Bundesliga club, unless it is a second division club.
i am pretty confident werder could outbid mainz,köln,freiburg,augsburg,union berlin, paderborn and düsseldorf. Don't make them smaller than they are my g
Scrapping the 50+1 rule is not the way to stop clubs from losing their best players to better paying ones. Fairer system of sharing the TV money and capping the professional footballers earnings worldwide is.
Now rewatching this video after all the recent protests at Hannover, Bayern, Union Berlin, Dortmund & Monchengladbach. I suspect YT trying to inform us of the 50+1 rule, which needs to stay.
More teams should implement this rule. Football is not only money and success, football is tradition and joy. I’m sad a lot of people ruin it because of money.
Take notes premier league
The rule should stay... maybe tweaked a little... but I don't want our football culture ruined by foreign investors... Plus at least Leipzig doesnt just throw their money around and buys star after star... they have a great youth development system and a good eye for talent.
How should it be tweaked?
Athraxes Then Bayern will dominate forever!
@@rakanaltassan7797 🤷you don't worry about that.
@David Clinging It's not exactly racist to say a German club should be controlled by German fans. After all it's them who buy the season tickets and go to the matches, unless you think people are flying from around the world to watch Paderborn vs Düsseldorf
@David Clinging no that's not the same. If the club is controlled by the fans rather than investors with no affiliation to the club then the club will be run better and truer to the club's values. Investors regularly use English clubs as cash cows, and destroy their identities (Cardiff and Wimbledon being the most high profile examples). But if the fans had control that would never happen. In Germany football clubs are just that, they're clubs, still retaining their local feel, even if they become global powerhouses like Bayern and BvB, unlike in England where they're just businesses
I guess we have our answer
Should be 50% +1...... also check out the Brazilian league where pretty much all teams are owned by the fans.
And obviously no corruption ever takes place in Brazilian football.
Most Brazilian teams are actually part of a sports club setup with multiple sports teams competing in different sports including football and are also social clubs where members hang out and hold dances etc. It's more of a community than just a football club.
Red Bull have a team in Brazil.
Why 60 + 1??
@@sld1776 There is a plenty of corruption in Brazilean football, but it doesn't change the fact that in Brazil the system in which no team is privately owned (at least in the first division of the league) works really well, being probably the league in which the most clubs have the chance to win it at the start of the tournament, with like 10 teams with real chances
Never heard of this rule till this video, I like it. Bring it to the BPL 👊👍
This channel is brilliant.
Read the book "Soccernomics" if you want to know more. The billionaires buying clubs will most likely, never turn a profit. The clubs are like supercars to be shown off as a status symbol. However, ticket prices would go sky high if not for the 50+1 rule.
Who is here after the fall of scumleague?
Here in Brazil, Red Bull has recently bought a club called Bragantino, from the city of Bragança Paulista. Bragantino is a very traditional club in Brazilian football and even though they've never been a top club here, they still had their fans in Bragança Paulista and some neighbor cities.
They got promoted to Brasileirão Série A (the first division of Brazil) last season, but Red Bull changed their club badge, the kits and the name from Clube Atlético Bragantino to Red Bull Bragantino. Their fans are really divided about this, some of them are really angry saying they killed the traditions of the club, but some are happy because Red Bull possibilitated them to get promoted to the first division after 22 years.
Now in the season 2020 we're gonna see what's gonna happen
But we also don't have risk of seeing this thing happening with the biggest clubs. Most of them are legally considered Non-profit Associations, so they don't really have an owner or something like that, they have a president selected by the associates via elections
@@Mill_Jr Red Bull are using the others teams (Bragatino,Salzburg,New York) just to find talents, grow then to sale them to RB Leipzig, it is a monopoly..
I get why people defend the 50+1 rule and I think it is a crude version of how clubs should be run. Football clubs aren't just businesses and their fans aren't just consumers. Having said that Bayern are sitting pretty for their 10th straight title and I think they are the real benefactors of the 50+1. The way they predate on every other team in the league is very reminiscent of Man Utd in the 90s. Any young player at Dortmund or Gladbach knows if they run down their contact Bayern will come knocking. This is extremely damaging to the competition in the league, not only are Bayern fortifying their position at the top, they are undermining their rivals by taking their best players and in many cases there's no transfer fee involved or if there is it's a derisory figure because it's clear the player will just leave on a free if not sold. It's extremely predatory and ultimately it's going to kill the league. I think it's lazy to say you can't hold owners to account without a 50+1 rule.
2:06 Spurs fans rn
Jazbr nah right now Spurs fans also hate Rb Leipzig lmao
Many fans, especially from outside Germany, seem to think that the Bundesliga only has 1 big club (FC Bayern) when actually there are many other big clubs like Schalke, Dortmund, Bremen, Stuttgart and HSV who could also be challenging Bayern Munich if it wasn't for restrictions. The fans should always have a sizeable share of control of their club but they should also accept that their clubs needs more money from external sources which can help them compete domestically and in Europe
Aidy Gooner to be honest Bayern is classified as a SuperClub and the rest you mentioned are big clubs.
True and I agree. But it would be great if the other big clubs stop feeding the super-club. My first memory of the Bundesliga was when Werder Bremen won the Double in 2004 and I also remember Stuttgart snatching the title from Schalke in 2007 I think. I feel sorry for Schalke fans and it would be great if they keep their young talents and build a team around their academy players so they can finally win the Bundesliga and grow like Dortmund have done this decade.
Really good insight, Aidy! Who do you support and how might they challenge for the title?
DW - Kick off! I'm actually a neutral fan in the Bundesliga. As for how can teams give Bayern a challenge and make them sweat for the championship, it would help if Dortmund don't mess up their transfers of players cos they bought a lot of good players last summer but just haven't jelled well together this season. Schalke also need to behave like a big club and convince their talented youngsters that the club is not a feeder club to the rest of Europe like Ajax. Ajax play in a weak league but Schalke don't have the same excuse as the Bundesliga is one of the best leagues.
It's such a shame however to see the demise of a proud club like HSV. Also I hope Dynamo Dresden get promoted to increase the number of Eastern teams
German people. Most clever, fair and organized people in Europe.
Love Germany.
That's your opinion but love Germany luv from Ireland 🇮🇪
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Yay 😎
Yes Germany has many clever people but also very dump people z.B.(zum Beispiel) the CDU/CSU, AfD or the SPD pls do somthing about the Nature only Die Grünen/Bündnis 90 are Good thanks Rezo for your Video if you want to the CDU/CSU, AfD and SPD are doing wrong watch the Video Die Zerstörung der CDU by Rezo ja lol ey (no Werbung)
I like the rule, its basically saying we put the club and its fans first. That’s special and it keeps it pure, it also gives the clubs a chance to develop youngsters. There are many things to admire about the rule
Great explanation allround, but I've left without an understanding how the rule makes the league less competitive internally and externally. Obviously externally it's limited due to not using money to capture the top talent, but why has it's implementation left bayern munich at the top for 5 straight years?
Mmmmm...
You know where I’m going.....
Millwall vs RB Leipzig!
1:51 the good ol’ days of Manchester United😔
Oh yes, we enjoyed this video
Good job guys
Love the intro
Jeremy Corbyn said this rule should be brought into England and everyone attacked him
Sounds very nationalist hmm
Ok but the Bundesliga is actually growing. The table rn is fire.
@@metube6299 Second division clubs have packed 25k fans each game in their stadium and have a bigger fan culture than most Premier league teams and they don't need to buy fans like the Arab laundry clubs in England
Woah chill dude that beginning.... if the kit is nice it should not matter which nation
Such an underrated account ngl 😍
1:21
Add Manchester United Private Limited to the list
Nowhere near as bad as what happened to the other clubs
What was not touched upon is the good that Red Bull’s investment has done for the chronically under developed East German sides. Finally they have given the area a squad that they can be proud of!
No one cares about red bull there.They support some teams from 3-4 divisions.
Why am I becoming addicted to video about football leagues. I don't even have a favorite team in eaurope.
One day all this utter useless knowledge will help you in some way. Either if you have to defuse a bomb or land a plane safely - I'm sure this knowledge will come in handy at some point.
Greeting from Wales
yowwwwww is it just me or does the dude got a hickey on his neck on the 50th second
Love this rule!, we could do with it at Newcastle 🤦🏻♂️
Jack colback?
damn ...
Oh..
Any premier league club🤷♂️
3:29 you said it completely wrong 😂
The rule doesn't exist in the Portuguese league, but it is in the statutes of most Portuguese clubs. However, in Portugal most clubs have an associated Anonymous Sports Society (SAD) which manages assets and has nearly full control over the first team in a club, and that can be taken over by buying shares. What ends up happening is that investors can take control of the first team, ripping the club apart. This has happened with "smaller clubs" (one of which is actually an historic club in Portuguese football) like Belenenses, Cova da Piedade and others that actually went bankrupt over SAD's decisions that ultimately were way over the club's capacity to handle. For a number of years investment societies (such as Abramovich's or Jorge Mendes's) have tried to boost smaller clubs in the Portuguese league in order to get profit, but all that ends up happening is that those clubs are ripped apart and end up fighting for survival. My hometown club (Beira-Mar) has gone all the way down to the lowest tier in regional football due to a succession of poor investment decisions made by people who did not care about the club at all, but managed to acquire majority in the SAD, and basically moved on whenever things weren't going the way they had expected. Right now, there's a team that is performing quite well, having just gone up from the 2nd tier to the 1st tier, Famalicão, and they've had a massive boost, with Atlético Madrid's boss Behind them. Whenever it all ends, the club might just see its end, as it is nearly impossible for these clubs to bounce back from these periods.
If the 50 + 1 rule was in force in the EFL city would be in league 2 and nobody would be able to come close to Manchester United, Arsenal or Liverpool
wow I feel so young I cant believe Blackburn was competing for titles at some point
Me who got a redbull add on the video without it even started
3:29 oh my god...this sounds horrible :D
Me: *sees thumbnail* “51. Duh.”
It’s not 51. It’s 50% + 1 share.
The thing you said at the start... truly magnificent...
1:48 well that ended quickly
How was chelsea or man city doing before the money came in!?
Why Leipzig is different!?
It's not only the money,the had a plan to make a great team.
It's not like Man City and Chelsea aren't hated for being money made.
Chelsea or Man City didn't change their club colors, their badge, their identity after being taken over by rich foreign owners. RB Leipzig did. Its like Coca Cola taking over Real Madrid and renaming them CC Real with red kits.
@@biswaroopmukherjee7450 Leipzig wasn't that big as chelsea,so i can't agree with real madrid and coca cola example
@@biswaroopmukherjee7450 You sure city didn't changed their badge 🤔
Yeah, I don't like 'em either.
And how does Wolfsburg operate with Volkswagen?
Wolfsburg is a so called Werkself which means that the Team was founded by VW for its workers.
Also Wolfsburg just like Leverkusen dont make any Profit or loss for the Club. Every Plus or Minus after the Season hieß directly to the company.
German fans can hate “company’s clubs” such as RBL, Leverkusen, Wolfsburg, but look at the traditional giants Schalke, Hamburg, Bremen and Stuttgart who managed themselves into the ground. Without those “plastic clubs” the bundesliga and the German national team would be much less competitive.
how do you hate rb leipzig for spending good money on efficient recruitment but not bayern for basically buying the league's best players?
muh clubs must belong to people (even if no team belongs to people since 90s, even german ones have money from the 49% generally
They wont see that. Blind hate make people dumb.
Maybe because Bayern doesn't do that. If you wanna know who buys the most players from other Clubs, after having one good season, look towards Dortmund. Frederico, Hajnal, Marin, Reus just to name some of them.
R.B. Leipzig is still arguably one of the best teams in Germany. They have achieved so much in so little time. Little more focus should be thrown on their hard work.
Daberechukwu Ogbuishi Not hard work but money
there fans don't have Power and are mostly plastic. Last thing redbull care about is there fans.
Gagan Sayana plastic? Most of their fans are from Leipzig and nearby area, they’re the only major club in east Germany, not counting berlin clubs.
@David Clinging they actually have less money then Bayern. It's amazing what RB Leipzig has accomplished in the Bundesliga on a pretty much shoestring budget compared to teams like Bayern, Dortmund, and Schalke.
@@supersasukemaniac They are 3rd richest team, only behind Bayern and Dortmund
Great journalism!
I watched this video nearly a year ago and coming back to watch it I still didn't understand the rule
Well, in my opinion the reason why bayern can secure title after title is because TV money is distributed unequally, unlike in the Premier league, they have millions in advantage which is stacking up to an even bigger advantage over such a long time.
This is one of those times when the RUclips algorithm actually teaches you something very useful.
The problem with Leipzig is just of what the owners are doing. In my opinion, even without the whole work around the rules from different clubs such as Leipzig, the football rules system is actually quite strict, although I partially agree with it. The disadvantage to the current systems we are using is purely that there is little chance of a new club developing to be a household name. As far as I am concerned, there is probably one or two teams that could be in this situation at the moment in the top 5 leagues (however they have a long way to go still) and they are Wolverhampton and Leicester City (maybe even Lazio). In truth, money is a very big player in this game (Not that I agree with that completely) and there's nothing we can really do. Various agents, companies, owners and officials focus on the financial value of investing into a club rather than any sense of sentiment for them, many players also tend to play for the money. Football is not a passion anymore, it's a business and a job that generates so much income that the money collected across a mid-tier Premier League player's wages could last for at least theirs and their children's lifetimes.
"But it is tradition that times must and always do change." - Prince Akeem (Eddie Murphy) in Coming to America
As soon as i heard that quote when watching that movie for the first time a decade or so ago that made sense to me and ever since when I hear people bitching about this change or that change because it doesn't follow whatever the current "tradition" is my mind goes to that quote. Times change, people change, cultures change, everything changes, so get used to it or find something else. It's that sort of inhibitive mindset that prevents innovation and therefore progress. However it's also human nature to have a fear of what you don't know and understand, so it makes sense why people want to keep "traditional" things in place as it gives them comfort being the only thing or way they know.
3:54 I'm done (native German here) no offense but its just so funny
was not even bad nor funny
They automatically say it in harsh way as if we use it as a curse or something
Lol to kick a trusted chairmen out
I’m only watching this so it can get out of my recommended
It has pros and cons. But football is not a recreation sport anymore. It's a profitable business venture that's why German football has to stop resisting change. And, start building their league to compete with likes of England , Italy and Spain.
It seems a big money club’s success is guaranteed, not really, when they started losing greedy owners and plastic fans who are like gold diggers will leave the club and abandon the home ground like an empty industrial city.
The 50+1 Rule doesn’t apply to Hoffenheim, Leverkusen and Wolfsburg
It does
Germany should find some partners for a tournament in which the entrants must all share the 50+1 ownership situation. Put together the best available teams not otherwise qualified for international play, and see if they can start to get some other leagues and other teams to get on board that otherwise might not. This would mean that the 6th, 7th, and 8th best teams in Germany go to this tournament- and as the third tier tournament gets under way, maybe it's no better than the 7th best team. This would be a good time to do it though- it could compete with this other lesser tournament and perhaps the winners of each competition could play against each other at the end.
If Germany plays its cards right it could have about 10 teams competing in international tournaments. Even better, the 50+1 rule could spread through Europe and lead to sensible rule changes in other leagues that are bad for billionaires and good for fans.
The 50+1 is only not as competitive because other leagues don't have it. Now some teams have big sponsors and only the biggest can compete with them (Bayern for example). If any league would again be about real football teams and not this plastic BS the rule wouldn't have this disadvantage.
I wish that rule existed here in Spain...Love the video
if the fact have said the tradition hold the investor money, hold your league growth (better player make league more competitve and make a local talent get more challenge), and even hold the other team to compete with bayern
what the point of keeping it ? why jealous and hate to leipzig ? hate that system
Not really, the Brazilean league is arguably the most competitive in terms of most teams with a legit chance to win it at the beggining of the tournament and not a single one of the teams in the first division is privately owned
@@henriquesoares2343 competitive here i mean they can bring more talented player for small club and their academy player is also improving
if the competitve you said, you better watch 3rd world-country league, like here in indonesia you cant predict who will win the league for next season, like persib bandung sign Michael Essien and fail lol
@@rotua98 But there is ways for other teams in Germany to get quality players and start contesting Bayern's hegemony within the system they have. The Brazilean league is an example that the system in which a team that has no owner can make multiple competitive squads for both national and international level, as they have won the club world cup as recently as 2012 (I believe) and is a league that has multiple potential winners every single year
@@henriquesoares2343 yea and we are about to get 20 years without an world cup beacuse our players cant reach European levels of play, we need investiment and sadly the only way is doing it
@@superninja252 We've been longer however not winning the title, the problem isn't the system itself but the players underachieving
bundesliga has the best something to achieve and help, satisfied etc this is what i like and interest to see
totally agree with you
As a German-Englishman, it is NOT a crime to wear Deutscher Fußball Bund Trikots........and, not everyone hates Leipzig. As you mentioned, where they were to where they now are is simply stunning. They certainly DID kick the Lederhosen off my Bayern München.
True dat, Jim! Maybe Ed is a bit oversensitive ;=) it is a World Cup year after all!
Didn't RB Leipzig finish second last year right behind Bayern?
2020 : UCL semifinals
Weird side angles
coming here after esl proposal.
3 lions 1 world cup
german eagle 4 world cups
see the difference
David Clinging what about the last u21 european championchips germany won in 2017 and was in the final in 2019
@David Clinging we will see👊🏻 Germany England final would be so nice! My two favourite national teams
@WHITE T The two world wars in which America had to save your ass? You sit at home like 'Thank god for pearl harbor' probably lmao. Don't come at me with politics, y'all economically got bullied so hard by Germany that you threw a hissy fit and left the EU lmao
@David Clinging I have to say that the English national team looks very promising for the next couple of tournaments. (And I'm German.)
But the German team also doesn't look too bad... U21 EC 3 (15), 1 (17), 2 (19).
U20 WC won by England in 17 is nice, but this year, both teams weren't even qualified because they were both too bad in the U19 EC last year.....
I don't see Germany doing so much worse in the U-tournaments. I would surely dispute the fact that England "in the last 5 years DOMINATED youth international football".
But it is always a question how valuable those results really are... U21 and U20, okay - but younger players I do not consider very valuable for the grown-ups WCs/ECs, because let's face it, how many u17 players even play in a first team in a highest league? How many U19 players actually make it to the national team? They are indicators for the long run, but a lot can change in that kind of time....
@David Clinging Gnabry is decent? That backfired
Pretty piss poor reasoning in this video to scrap the 50+1 rule imo.
he actually made the case for keeping it, since Leipzig are the only club that actually works like this ( well Hoffenheim, too). Bayern's dominance of the Bundesliga and the financial imbalance of the league however still needs to be addressed.
@@SantomPh Are they distributing the TV rights evenly like the premier league or is it more like La Liga where Real Madrid and Barcelona get a bigger cut than the rest?
@@thebillbo well. Most FS1 and FS2 Bundesliga games are usually just Bayern München, Borussia Dortmund, or RB Leipzig games with the occasional exception during rivalry games.
Average match attendance graphic from 2011/2012 season for a video making a point in 2018? Are those numbers still relativity correct?
Honestly, the Bundesliga should get rid of the 50+1 rule and go back to what we previously had. It’s only exists for 21 years but Bayern still won more league titles than they did before the 50+1 rule existed.
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