WHY reunification failed football

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @komschkomsch5718
    @komschkomsch5718 5 лет назад +3345

    Union Berlin has already reached the Bundesliga

    • @alumpy-acho112
      @alumpy-acho112 5 лет назад +21

      Yeah

    • @KingMori63400
      @KingMori63400 5 лет назад +96

      Von Spandau bis nach Hellersdorf, vom Wedding bis Neukölln!
      Von Zehlendorf bis jwd, gibt’s nur Hertha BSC!
      Drum merkt euch eins, für alle Zeit, und vergesst es nie!
      Unioner komm‘ aus Köpenick, Herthaner aus Berlin!

    • @christaincarvalho
      @christaincarvalho 5 лет назад +62

      @@KingMori63400 English please

    • @KingMori63400
      @KingMori63400 5 лет назад +202

      @@christaincarvalho it's just a song about Hertha being the real Berlin club while Union is only from Köpenick, a forest in the East of Berlin.

    • @komschkomsch5718
      @komschkomsch5718 5 лет назад +13

      @@herrmann_1312 ohhhh der hat gesessen😂👍

  • @mosellanleftist
    @mosellanleftist 5 лет назад +1870

    Well, RB Leipzig can’t count because the club has been founded after the reunification

    • @xavermeier8357
      @xavermeier8357 5 лет назад +229

      Well technically it wasn't even founded like a real club. They bought the license from Markränstadt and turned it into a marketing product.

    • @mariop8101
      @mariop8101 5 лет назад +137

      @@xavermeier8357 Much better than PSG or Man City. I would love if Red Bull created a team in my town, to fill the void of my team that is on a Zombie state, since the start of the TV paywall here on Portugal, only 3 teams are considered, the rest are bankrupt.

    • @imda77
      @imda77 5 лет назад +79

      I personally like Red Bull investing into football. Spices up the competition. Hopefully they will be able to compete with german top clubs in a couple years

    • @TheEvapiiShow
      @TheEvapiiShow 5 лет назад +11

      @@imda77 no they won't. 50+1 is still a thing and Bayern hold a monoply.

    • @iliaz7057
      @iliaz7057 5 лет назад +5

      @@mariop8101 isn't a club named Famalicao doing good in the league. I read this club is collaborating with Jorge Mendes and so have money. Or all this is just a bubble and that won't last long

  • @fradinetienne712
    @fradinetienne712 5 лет назад +1044

    The point you're trying to make around 9:00 is kind of misleading:
    In the 2014 world cup team, Kroos was the only one born in East Germany, meaning he is the only east german to win the world cup, ever. There were more people born in Poland in that squad...

    • @golDroger88
      @golDroger88 5 лет назад +65

      And yet he was and is by far the best player.

    • @BadassBikerOwns
      @BadassBikerOwns 5 лет назад +103

      ...and Turkey

    • @Christian45138
      @Christian45138 5 лет назад +130

      @@golDroger88 Our best Player in the 2010 decade was Lahm or Schweinsteiger. They were the Leaders in the 2014 world cup. Definetely not Kroos.

    • @fradinetienne712
      @fradinetienne712 5 лет назад +22

      @@BadassBikerOwns I might have missed that, I only saw 20*West Germany, 2*Poland and 1*East Germany

    • @Jantjeboskamp
      @Jantjeboskamp 5 лет назад +62

      @@BadassBikerOwns those turkish players were born in germany

  • @matiasbrachini8741
    @matiasbrachini8741 5 лет назад +1872

    To be honest, even the West Germany clubs can't compete in the Bayernliga.

    • @lukasartinger
      @lukasartinger 5 лет назад +118

      I doubt it, they can easily compete in the fifth division of Bavaria...
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayernliga

    • @salviniusaugustus5541
      @salviniusaugustus5541 5 лет назад +11

      Borussia?

    • @adambenali3852
      @adambenali3852 5 лет назад +16

      Ahahahahahaah 😂😂😂 im dead man

    • @EstebanMataVargas
      @EstebanMataVargas 5 лет назад +29

      It seems that finally this season, after a long time, competition is back in the Bundesliga.

    • @---mx7lc
      @---mx7lc 4 года назад

      Lukas Artinger 😂

  • @slowmikespace
    @slowmikespace 5 лет назад +91

    Although Italy it's unified from 1861, the italian football league mirrors the same situation: with all the economical power moved from south to north, when football born here the teams founded from Rome to Palermo didn't got much success or titles: we waited something like 80 years to see Napoli win a title (from Campania); other clubs like Bari, Catania, Lecce or Avellino rarely appeared in Serie A, and if we count the clubs that took part at least 1 time in the major league that belong to south Italy we see only 14 teams on 67 (which is the 20%). The reality is that there's still no interest in bringing some wellness in this area and we still wait to economic benefits, that clearly could improve the sport (and in this case) football system.

    • @RaGeAlucard
      @RaGeAlucard 4 года назад +7

      but atleast you had Maradonna.

    • @remdy3839
      @remdy3839 4 года назад +3

      Germany also was unified in 1871 but we got Split up in 1946.

    • @carlomariamizzi8387
      @carlomariamizzi8387 3 года назад +6

      to be fair, no economic power "was moved from south to north", southern italy didn't have economic power to begin with if compared to the north (the situation got worse after wwII). And 20% representation (14 teams on 67) is quite fair if you think that only 20% of italian population lives in the south

    • @tamborero88
      @tamborero88 3 года назад

      @@carlomariamizzi8387 The center is superior to the north.

    • @mattf9627
      @mattf9627 2 года назад +1

      It’s more then just football, I’ve been to Sicily and am a fan of Palermo, basically south Italy as a whole is just less advanced then the north, due to most Italian revenue coming from north Italy. Hopefully this gets fixed though and we can see teams like Palermo and Catania become regulars in Serie A.

  • @derboss7531
    @derboss7531 5 лет назад +195

    Union Berlin is a former eastern club who now plays in the Bundesliga. They are actually pretty compelling at the moment.

    • @Regisseur95
      @Regisseur95 5 лет назад +18

      yeah I'm confused to why he didn't name them and used a plastic club like RB Leipzig as a "positive" example instead.

    • @MXknowsHow
      @MXknowsHow 5 лет назад

      they play horrible football tho.

    • @zombieguyproducion
      @zombieguyproducion 5 лет назад +12

      @@Regisseur95 I'm pretty certain it's because while Union Berlin is in the Bundesliga, RB Leipzig is one of the top teams while Union isn't.

    • @ErsinGaga
      @ErsinGaga 5 лет назад +7

      Because Union haven't been playing in the First Division of the GDR in the year of unification.
      Union have never been a successful while Dresden, Karl-Marx-Stadt, B*C or even Magdeburg are Former Champions and have had runs in the European Cup Back then.

    • @ErsinGaga
      @ErsinGaga 5 лет назад

      @Robben Flying Dutchman Well yes in Union"s Case you can. The win in the First Derby in the Bundesliga against Hertha.

  • @95Lodgey
    @95Lodgey 5 лет назад +101

    As an Englishman I found this fascinating. I always wondered why the bundesliga lacked clubs from the east.

    • @bornesulinowo391
      @bornesulinowo391 4 года назад +24

      It's not by accident. Communism is felonious idea, even for football. This is what destroyed and kills even now my country, Poland. People have trash in their minds. Polish league football is corrupted. Very hard to watch crap. There is still state financing! Wisła Cracovia one of the most prominent Polish club was controlled by street gangs only year or two ago. Most popular Polish football channel on youtube is commenting in satirical and vulgar way Extraklasa legue. Every new year I wonder "where is the bottom?"

    • @alia7750
      @alia7750 4 года назад +4

      Borne Sulinowo Poland is far from communist moron lol. If anything Poland is right wing.

    • @bornesulinowo391
      @bornesulinowo391 4 года назад +4

      @@alia7750 I live in Poland and I know what is here, idiot.

    • @MrHoelderlin
      @MrHoelderlin 4 года назад +5

      @@bornesulinowo391 Seems like you don't. Pretty embarrassing not to know the situation in your own country.

    • @bornesulinowo391
      @bornesulinowo391 4 года назад +12

      @@MrHoelderlin Pretty embarrassing to take information of Poland from German media. I know "right wing" is a derogatory term in your country because of... you know the best why.
      But state ruled economy, protectionism, social benefits, cetralisation, growing taxes, adulation of the poorest and unions, equalization is strictly left wing agenda. Prefering state owned large businesses for their cronies and social justice, too. Populism is on the both sides. Kaczynski is socialdemocrat populist who takes handful from Polish communism era. So he is so popular in major group, elderly social oriented Polish society which grown in dark communism. He gives to his helpless people new cash before each elections and win, win, win... Shortly is sombody like Your "Ossie" x10. And your so called Polish "right wing" society is very happy of that. Any else to explain?

  • @richardalex4516
    @richardalex4516 5 лет назад +193

    Union Berlin is a very respectable club

    • @xaviwarrior1
      @xaviwarrior1 5 лет назад

      Where are the neighborhood Union Berlin Stadium?

    • @AlexanderDora
      @AlexanderDora 5 лет назад

      @@xaviwarrior1 Alte Scheißhaus Berlin :)

    • @xaviwarrior1
      @xaviwarrior1 5 лет назад

      @@AlexanderDora 👍

    • @konsta9600
      @konsta9600 3 года назад +2

      the fly in your portrait got me

  • @rafpach87
    @rafpach87 4 года назад +72

    THE problem here was to relegate everybody but two teams. WTF?

    • @maxjahns9063
      @maxjahns9063 3 года назад +7

      Yeah... better keep Bayer Uerdingen and SG Wattenscheid in the Bundesliga instead of former European Cup champions or finalists like Magdeburg, Lok Leipzig and Jena... seems legit! 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @SirKnobofCheese
    @SirKnobofCheese 5 лет назад +414

    I blame David Hasselhoff.

  • @CoherentChimp
    @CoherentChimp 4 года назад +377

    Seems like the East Germans were treated like East Germans instead of getting treated like Germans.

    • @koushikdas5097
      @koushikdas5097 4 года назад +19

      Bingo. At least someone gets it.

    • @aroundtheworld2316
      @aroundtheworld2316 4 года назад +12

      They had to be germanized first and remove the unprogressive soviet attitude

    • @koushikdas5097
      @koushikdas5097 4 года назад +47

      @@aroundtheworld2316
      Not Germaning, it's Westering.

    • @PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman
      @PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman 3 года назад +4

      Pretty normal, you can just fuse two different country like that. Same language, same history, but the culture and the life style aren't the same anymore. Would be the same if South Korea took control of North Korea

    • @23GreyFox
      @23GreyFox 3 года назад +18

      @@aroundtheworld2316 That is plain wrong. East Germans never tried to be Russians, but West Germany became more like Americans.

  • @elhamburgo6256
    @elhamburgo6256 5 лет назад +408

    There is a former GDR club in the Bundesliga now as Union Berlin got promoted this summer.

    • @beatolympics
      @beatolympics 5 лет назад +26

      Yes, but they didn't play in the top division during the DDR-Oberliga's final season in 89-90.

    • @kardovalencia3908
      @kardovalencia3908 5 лет назад +2

      What about Redbull FC lol?

    • @TheEvapiiShow
      @TheEvapiiShow 5 лет назад +39

      @@kardovalencia3908 fake club. In Leipzig there exist only Lokomotive and Chemie!

    • @elhamburgo6256
      @elhamburgo6256 5 лет назад +18

      @@kardovalencia3908 they’re an austrian franchise team located in Leipzig...

    • @ouinon4394
      @ouinon4394 5 лет назад

      Hasta la victoria siempre you’re talking about Salzbourg lol

  • @NinhLyUK
    @NinhLyUK 5 лет назад +301

    Good video, very interesting to learn about the history of German Football!

    • @epicrandomperson1998
      @epicrandomperson1998 5 лет назад +4

      So this is what Ninh Ly watches in his spare time

    • @joe972
      @joe972 5 лет назад +3

      Ninh Ly I watch your videos! And your travel one too!

    • @ratedpending
      @ratedpending 5 лет назад +1

      Aaaaaaaaahhh my worlds are colliding

    • @NinhLyUK
      @NinhLyUK 5 лет назад +3

      @@epicrandomperson1998 kind of, yeah.

    • @NinhLyUK
      @NinhLyUK 5 лет назад +3

      @@joe972 thanks bro!

  • @impliedfacepalm8769
    @impliedfacepalm8769 5 лет назад +345

    Also Energie Cottbus, who spent 4 seasons (if I'm not mistaken) in 1. Bundesliga.

    • @swagmueller
      @swagmueller 5 лет назад +57

      6 seasons. 2000/01-02/03 and 06/07-08/09

    • @brettquiggle2859
      @brettquiggle2859 5 лет назад +23

      Yeah, the writers for this early did not do any actual research.

    • @thorbend
      @thorbend 5 лет назад +33

      they said at this point, so in season 19/20 there is no Team from the first ddr league 89/90 playing. They didnt say there was never an east club playing bundesliga.

  • @Simmi0312
    @Simmi0312 5 лет назад +347

    it gets better and better, but in little steps. the 3.Liga is stacked with East German Teams now .. Halle, and Magdeburg are fighting for the 2.Bundesliga, and so on .. i live in between of both Cities, and the Season Magdeburg was in 2.Bundesliga? the whole Region went crazy ..

    • @cawab2995
      @cawab2995 5 лет назад +7

      And yet many teams are still getting nowhere. Take former Cup final contenders Carl Zeiss Jena. Or Wismut Gera who are the best ever 2. division GDR team and are now 6. league. Or former UEFA Cup contenders Stahl Brandenburg who now play 7. division

    • @Simmi0312
      @Simmi0312 5 лет назад +7

      @@cawab2995 yeah i watched the vid, but thats for whole Germany, west also has so many big Clubs from the past .. who are now gone, and gone forever. Like i said .. it gets better and better, but that takes time, and not every team can make that growth.

    • @mattpotter8725
      @mattpotter8725 5 лет назад +1

      @@Simmi0312 I was just thinking the same. I think the video should have also mentioned that there are a number of clubs from the West that I remember as doing well in Europe that dropped out of the top division and haven't made it back yet, namely Karlsruhe and Kaiserslautern. I do think that the odds were massively stacked against the former East German teams, but I am yet to read what really could have been done to prevent what happened, maybe a more gradual introduction and more control, more East German teams in the top division or some kind of qualifying competition to see who after the top teams should go into the first and second tiers. Once you drop out of the top flight in any league across Europe if you don't have big backing (and even if you do sometimes) it i difficult getting back. East German clubs didn't have the funding so it was always going to take time, but hopefully we are getting there.

    • @EmolvoYT
      @EmolvoYT 5 лет назад

      Im happy for Wismut Aue. Erzgebirge ist geil :D

    • @celebrim1
      @celebrim1 5 лет назад +8

      What can be destroyed in 5 years takes 40 years to rebuild. So imagine how long it takes to rebuild what was destroyed over 50 years.

  • @regacc3594
    @regacc3594 5 лет назад +7

    the magnitude of work done by this channel is tremendous
    the linkage between history, politics ... etc with sports is something very few people consider
    well done!

  • @torheim75
    @torheim75 4 года назад +16

    I loved the kind of club names in GDR(1st 2nd tier). Eisenhüttenstädter FC Stahl, Rotation Berlin, Aktivist Schwarze Pumpe etc..

  • @christophermay1868
    @christophermay1868 5 лет назад +7

    Thank you for your videos that provide narrative to the Bundesliga and German football in general. As an American who is a big fan of the league, it's difficult to find English speaking media that goes over the history of German football compared of course to available media of the EPL, La Liga, and Serie A. Keep coming with the good shit!

  • @santiagobauza4257
    @santiagobauza4257 5 лет назад +39

    Love the use of So Here We Are by Bloc Party in the intro, great video overall!

  • @polyglot8
    @polyglot8 5 лет назад +28

    The main conclusion from this video: Bring back the short shorts!

  • @henz097
    @henz097 5 лет назад +559

    Great video but RB Leipzig are everything except an East German team

    • @ramieg4693
      @ramieg4693 5 лет назад +64

      Henz 0 they are on their way to ruining the bundesliga. Totally unfair what they have done.

    • @calteckk
      @calteckk 5 лет назад +38

      @@ramieg4693 Bundesliga allowed it. Blame them

    • @ariairta
      @ariairta 5 лет назад +12

      @henz sorry to ask you this, but why RB Leipzig not an East German team.?

    • @Groknatarz
      @Groknatarz 5 лет назад +3

      @@ariairta Watch here for a closer look on why RB Leipzig is so hated and not a real east german team.
      ruclips.net/video/nQx5_N0GccI/видео.html

    • @kevinmattsson5718
      @kevinmattsson5718 5 лет назад +36

      @@ariairta I mean, the Club was created after the fall of the wall...

  • @kazap6690
    @kazap6690 5 лет назад +320

    Es ist komisch, wenn ein Deutscher einen Beitrag auf Englisch verfasst.

    • @nonchablunt
      @nonchablunt 5 лет назад +26

      most honest german accent i heard in a while ;)

    • @terr4byte
      @terr4byte 5 лет назад +5

      bodyshaming fürs eigene land.. wörder breimän is se bäst

    • @iBallz_
      @iBallz_ 4 года назад +6

      @@terr4byte nicht unbedingt "national bodyshaming" aber vermutlich eher ein krampfhafter Versuch ein größeres Publikum anzusprechen in dem man die Beiträge auf englisch bringt. Der Akzent ist aber tatsächlich grauenhaft und ich bezweifle, dass es Sören in Schweden, oder Sam in England interessiert was z.B. aus Dynamo Dresden geworden ist.

    • @kazap6690
      @kazap6690 4 года назад +1

      @@iBallz_ Exakt meine Gedanken

    • @regenen
      @regenen 4 года назад

      @@ooievaar6756 Helemaal niets mis mee om engels te praten, en door te oefenen kom je ook van een accent af (waar trouwens niets mis mee is)

  • @struxnyt3991
    @struxnyt3991 5 лет назад +113

    I’ve always been fascinated by big East German clubs not reaching their potential. Being from Scotland I always knew about Dynamo Dresdenand Hansa Rostock. Are these clubs growing their way to the top?

    • @henz097
      @henz097 5 лет назад +32

      Struxn YT not really currently. Hansa Rostock seem to be stuck in 3.Liga forever and Dresden have had a few solid season in Bundesliga 2 but are now at the bottom of the table

    • @felixplatt3023
      @felixplatt3023 5 лет назад +2

      @@henz097 What about Hallescher. They're top of 3.Liga and they're East German. How big a club are they?

    • @sneirosgaming4753
      @sneirosgaming4753 5 лет назад +14

      @@felixplatt3023 last season about 8000 viewers came to their home matches. From my point of view the Hallescher FC is way smaller than Dynamo Dresden, FC Magdeburg or Hansa Rostock, but i am from west germany so i dont really know how big the club is. Halle playes its eights season in league 3 and before that they played from 1993 until 2008 in the fourth league, so you should not expect to much from them.

    • @felixplatt3023
      @felixplatt3023 5 лет назад

      @@sneirosgaming4753 Thanks

    • @dwkickoff
      @dwkickoff  5 лет назад +30

      Uwe Rösler told me he predicts that Dynamo Dresden will play soon Bundesliga again. It's just a matter of time. They have economically stabilized, a big fanbase, good infrastructure. Let's see.

  • @ronnyche2929
    @ronnyche2929 5 лет назад +505

    Michael Ballack was born in Görlitz not in Karl-Mar-Stadt

    • @dwkickoff
      @dwkickoff  5 лет назад +93

      Hey 188_RonnyJ, you are right, he was born in Görlitz und raised in Karl-Marx-Stadt. Sorry for this mistake.

    • @toshihikotanaka1672
      @toshihikotanaka1672 5 лет назад +163

      @@dwkickoff
      "Und"....
      even in writing, your german accent is thick... 😁😁😁

    • @e.l.b6435
      @e.l.b6435 5 лет назад +4

      Da wohnt Knuspertoast xD

    • @ronnyche2929
      @ronnyche2929 5 лет назад +2

      @@e.l.b6435 wow du bost ja so lustig. Du sölltest n prei bekommen

    • @hugoreinh1hard
      @hugoreinh1hard 5 лет назад

      Ja

  • @Hive__
    @Hive__ 5 лет назад +80

    Union Berlin was a GDR-Club. It is in the Bundesliga

    • @ErsinGaga
      @ErsinGaga 5 лет назад +2

      Haven't been in the top Tier at the time of reunification

    • @COYM_1908
      @COYM_1908 5 лет назад +2

      It's still just one team.

  • @zarategabe
    @zarategabe 8 месяцев назад +2

    It's because reunification itself has mostly failed. The "shock therapy" of the GDR has been quite traumatic on most of the former East.

  • @cawab2995
    @cawab2995 5 лет назад +128

    In Leipzig gibt es nur Lok und Chemie! (In Leipzig only Lok and Chemie - Those are the two former big teams from Leipzig who have a great history and tradition)

    • @blblblblbl395
      @blblblblbl395 5 лет назад +6

      Well RB is a young club but I still see a full stadium every home game. Add the success as well and soon Lok and Chemie will be forever gone.

    • @cawab2995
      @cawab2995 5 лет назад +2

      @@blblblblbl395 1. RB seem to always "sell out" although there are always plenty of empty seats in the stadium. 2. Lok has a good chance of reaching the 3. Liga proving that Leipzig can have success without Red Bull. 3. Chemie always get good numbers and a better support than RB

    • @blblblblbl395
      @blblblblbl395 5 лет назад +8

      @@cawab2995 Let's be honest here. You are comparing access in the Champions League playoffs to "good chance of reaching the 3. Liga". Leipzig is relatively big and can surely afford more than one team. Still at the end it is all about the next generations, and currently kids are much more attracted to RB than to Lok or Chemie.

    • @cawab2995
      @cawab2995 5 лет назад +4

      @@blblblblbl395 Good point. Sad to think about all the kids getting brainwashed

    • @iBallz_
      @iBallz_ 4 года назад +8

      @@cawab2995 Sad to see that some people still don't understand that football is nothing more than a form of business where investors are common and help the national success of the brand "bundesliga". Teams like RB Leipzig and Hoffenheim, and back in the day Wolfsburg and Leverkusen, are helping the bundesliga to grow step by step. Young german players like Kimmich (former RB player), Werner, Halstenberg, and many others were/are able to grow and develope their talent. I am not a fan of any german club but to see what the "new clubs" are doing to help young players is very good for the german football as a whole

  • @ruski17
    @ruski17 5 лет назад +8

    The grass is not always greener on the other side.

  • @BaguetteOfDoom
    @BaguetteOfDoom 5 лет назад +355

    No. RB Leipzig is NOT an "Ost-Klub".

    • @cthulhu9033
      @cthulhu9033 5 лет назад +29

      well, its a traditional Thing, its not a typical „Ost-Klub“ because they where build up with a fuck ton of money, and replaced a smal club, changing its name, and rising up into the Bundesliga in a few years, changing leauges almost every year, so altough its located in east germany, its not really an Ost Klub, because its has almost no Tradition

    • @tongyaozhang2580
      @tongyaozhang2580 5 лет назад +14

      @demir niue Leipzig is located in Belgium

    • @FriedrichHerschel
      @FriedrichHerschel 5 лет назад +52

      @demir niue When (east) germans talk about eastern clubs, they mean it in a historical and cultural way. To be an "Ostklub", you have to have existed in the GDR. RB Leipzig was founded 20 years later. Yes, geographically, it's in the eastern part of Germany ... as much as Munich or Augsburg (divide Germany purely geograhically in an eastern and western half, Bavaria has to be on the first).

    • @stthcnths
      @stthcnths 5 лет назад +25

      RB Leipzig is an austrian Club.

    • @Nubsie1990
      @Nubsie1990 5 лет назад +14

      @@stthcnths its an Austria promotional product ;)

  • @mindflower89
    @mindflower89 5 лет назад +6

    I love the reportage, footage, history throwback, highlights split. Good quality, fascinating to watch. Nice quality. Greetings from Russia. Love your work.

  • @sajaljain8843
    @sajaljain8843 5 лет назад +23

    I love how dw has a channel dedicated to football only.

  • @grahambrake5495
    @grahambrake5495 3 года назад +3

    Dynamo Dresden has been promoted all the way to bundesliga 2 since this video was made

  • @InTheKM
    @InTheKM 3 года назад +3

    Der Wahnsinn! I had no idea how badly the East German clubs got screwed by West Germany.
    A similar conversation occurs from time to time in the UK. The discussion is of the Scottish clubs and English clubs joining together into one league system but most people (in Scotland anyway) are 100% against it because it would threaten the very existence of some clubs.

  • @lbrasanchoo5290
    @lbrasanchoo5290 5 лет назад +5

    I remembered when I was young waiting to for the whole week to your program called FOOTBALL MADE IN GERMANY

  • @vaxuvax
    @vaxuvax 4 года назад +5

    Congratulations. Very good documentary.I also want to add that the fall of East German clubs had many reasons. One of the reasons was the huge difference between the economies and the mentality of doing things between East and West. In 1990 the organization and the ways things were done in sports, state and economy in the east must have been VERY ALIEN to the West German state. The East german secret police(STASI), the east german army, the east german factories had sport teams. After reunification and disapearence of East german police and army why would Bundesnachrichtendienst(german secret service) take dynamo teams or why would Bundeswehr take football teams( ASG Vorwärts Leipzig, ASG Vorwärts Berlin etc)? In democracy no one could force them to do it. Like no one could force private business men from the West to take football teams of East German factories that were closing down. Market economy works different from State economy. Anyway Im happy that RB Leipzig and Union Berlin are doing well in German first League and hope that other teams will join soon. It seems that little by little we learn market economy here in the east but we still have a long way to go. 40-50 years of Communism are not easy to brush aside.

  • @grobariza
    @grobariza 5 лет назад +6

    If a team from the East builds a team from the right principles and eventually gains enough promotions to the Bundesliga it would be respected

  • @basti3149
    @basti3149 5 лет назад +54

    What about Union Berlin?

    • @ErsinGaga
      @ErsinGaga 5 лет назад +9

      Haven't been in the Former top Division in the GDR. They've been in the second Tier that season

    • @MrWhitmen1981
      @MrWhitmen1981 5 лет назад +3

      It also the capital city so it doesn’t really count, recovery was quicker there then the rest of nation given the half of city is flourishing. Especially if it is in cycling distance. Can’t say the same on eastern city.

    • @ErsinGaga
      @ErsinGaga 5 лет назад +5

      @@MrWhitmen1981 it Just became the capital City again after reunification.
      West German capitan was Bonn and east German Capital was east Berlin. That's why FC Berlin (Dynamo) was the Club of the east German Secret Police. They were the Most successful because the Stasi wanted it to be the Most successful.
      I get your Point about the Recovery but that's Not entirely true. East Berlin didn't Develop nearly as quickly and as much as West Berlin. And at the Same time barely quicker than other cities Like Dresden Leipzig or Rostock.
      Köpenick (where Union ist based and where Most Fans are) has been more Like a smaller City/Village itself. It's kinda far away from the City Center, so Most businesses didn't See the need to Invest there.

    • @mariorui6424
      @mariorui6424 5 лет назад +2

      I love them! Alles Güte in Bundesliga, Union!

  • @jassel3450
    @jassel3450 2 года назад +2

    No words about Rostock ? We were 12 years in the Bundesliga!

  • @jack0534
    @jack0534 5 лет назад +6

    whats ed sheeran doing playing for germany

  • @wotintarnation8388
    @wotintarnation8388 5 лет назад +1

    You guys need to KEEP THIS SHIT UP! What Copa90's been doing as of late is a crime to football on YT! You and the 2 HITC channels are the best!

  • @5-Minutegeography
    @5-Minutegeography 5 лет назад +41

    No matter what happens, I'll always love Bundes liga

    • @AlkaCRI
      @AlkaCRI 5 лет назад +4

      Bundesliga is boring, only bayer munich wins, it is not competitive

    • @Christian175z
      @Christian175z 5 лет назад +6

      @@AlkaCRI That's absolutely not true for this season. Bayern is currently struggling and other teams have moved up their game.

    • @5-Minutegeography
      @5-Minutegeography 5 лет назад +2

      @@AlkaCRI That's why I started rooting for other teams such as Dortmund and Leipzig

    • @Christian175z
      @Christian175z 5 лет назад +3

      @@AlkaCRI Bayern lost 5-1 against Frankfurt last weekend.

    • @abdigemal8411
      @abdigemal8411 4 года назад

      @@AlkaCRI so They won

  • @mycodenameisejatt
    @mycodenameisejatt 5 лет назад +2

    This channel is better than Copa 90

    • @dwkickoff
      @dwkickoff  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks Polis, Spread the word ;)

  • @TheXev
    @TheXev 4 года назад +8

    I do not follow football at all, and this video was really interesting to watch.

  • @supertori8585
    @supertori8585 4 года назад +2

    I live in GDR, my Football Club was in the second devision and bis were somewhere in 10. Devision or something

  • @Mrkolotoure
    @Mrkolotoure 5 лет назад +15

    Bloc party in the backround lol I love it

  • @pawemazurek2251
    @pawemazurek2251 5 лет назад

    I think Poland was the same situation like East Germany. Simple remedy for those teams is time. Working with kids, youth, learning from best clubs at west. Put efforts on community around city where the club is situated. Well, I lie to myself, in Poland we cannot make good clubs, people only focus on money jhere, but I wish all good to deutche freunden and hope you will be great cuz I remember watching with my father RUN on rtl and I remember watching Hansa Rostock is bundesliga. Great video. I subscribe this channel :)

  • @peterhomann2140
    @peterhomann2140 3 года назад +9

    This is one of the better and largely successful attempts to explain the development of football after reunification. However portraying RB Leipzig as a positive example is a big blunder and factually totally incorrect. If anything Red Bull abused the (from a capitalist point of view) cheap opportunities to manufacture a money making machine in the former GDR. I am not an "Ossi" but after the initial enthusiasm about reunification West German arrogance took over and any East German accomplishments were brushed aside. Perhaps there were not too many of those but a reunited Germany had a golden opportunity to (literally) make the best of 2 worlds, not only in football but in society as a whole. However rich West Germany simply saw an easy possibility to become even richer. Child care, women's rights, affordable housing and a general sense of community was left on the wayside. Only now, more than 30 years later some recognize what was lost.

  • @h0ckeyd
    @h0ckeyd 4 года назад +1

    Fun fact for you; Uwe Rosler was the last player to score a goal in a game at the Dell in Southampton (you know, the club that bought Kevin Keegan from Hamburg, are in the premiership and have Austrian, Ralph Hasenhttl as manager)....Uwe is a legend in Southampton too.

  • @WildwoodClaire1
    @WildwoodClaire1 5 лет назад +21

    Wasn't Dynamo Berlin the "Stasi Team"?

    • @picoreturns_
      @picoreturns_ 5 лет назад +7

      Yes

    • @geoffgane4861
      @geoffgane4861 5 лет назад +5

      And even more corrupt than Real Madrid under Franco.

    • @andrewcreek3846
      @andrewcreek3846 5 лет назад +1

      Dynamo Berlin also benefited from East Germany's state run doping program, like their Olympic athletes.

    • @mariorui6424
      @mariorui6424 5 лет назад

      @@geoffgane4861 I don't know , it's hard to choice who had more help from his government, because Franco was a Real Madrid fan.

    • @xxdavecz3811
      @xxdavecz3811 5 лет назад

      Dynamo Berlin was and is supported by Nazis fans

  • @solidkingcobra
    @solidkingcobra 5 лет назад +1

    I am a really recent football fan from America, I don't know why the hell I'm watching this, but this is interesting as hell. I'm just learning about relegation and all that fun stuff. It's neat that things are being explained like this.

  • @alwaysincentivestrumpethic6689
    @alwaysincentivestrumpethic6689 5 лет назад +3

    Interesting piece !!! 👍👍👍

  • @genious1682
    @genious1682 Год назад +1

    Who would say us that the most humillated football club in East Germany, Union Berlín is one of the best club in Bundesliga right now

    • @dwkickoff
      @dwkickoff  Год назад

      Erich Mielke is turning over in his grave

  • @moefaez760
    @moefaez760 5 лет назад +5

    I love the content of this video...Felt kinda bad for the former East German players but overall this is a good video

  • @RayJacksonbighmw
    @RayJacksonbighmw 3 года назад +1

    This is interesting, I didn't know that the former GDR had established clubs and successful ones at that, but yet many have never made it to the "modern" Bundesliga. I may advertise myself as a Gooner (Arsenal supporter), but when it comes to German Football I am Grun-Weiss VfL Wolfsburg all the way!!!
    ....and this coming after I bought a 1998-99 Wolfsburg jersey back in 2010 and finding out later they were once Deutscher Meister 2009 (to us Americans, Champions!!!) currently owning a 2002 New Beetle GLS and have been a VW enthusiast since 1998, having also owned a 1999 Beetle I got then brand new BITD.
    And since I will be getting ESPN+ added to my TV package I will definitely be looking forward to returning to my beloved original international football home, the Bundesliga, and yes, I WILL catch a bit of that Berlin Derby now that both Hertha and Union are finally in top flight together. Hey, the Bundesliga are more than just Bayern and Dortmund, we all know that, and its up to the two Berlin clubs, RB Leipzig and rest of the East to now prove it to the rest of the world!!!

  • @abhishekghosh4136
    @abhishekghosh4136 5 лет назад +3

    Great video! Fascinating Football history

    • @FootyAdventures
      @FootyAdventures 4 года назад

      I love videos like these and enjoy learning about clubs from all over the world myself through my channel 🙌 football - best sport in the world ⚽️

  • @godwrote01
    @godwrote01 5 лет назад +2

    What happened to the footbal clubs happened to everything in the GDR. Take the best and leave the rest. East Germany suffers till today from that shhhhhh.

  • @eichbienyermaw
    @eichbienyermaw 5 лет назад +4

    Andy Thom!
    Andy Thom!
    Andy, Andy Thom!
    He gets the ball and he scores a goal,
    Andy, Andy Thom!
    I loved Thom when he was with Celtic. Great player!
    Hail Hail! 🍀🍀🍀

  • @keithmcclean4371
    @keithmcclean4371 4 года назад +1

    A very good report

  • @changertv9222
    @changertv9222 5 лет назад +14

    Red Bull Leipzig isn't an eastern football Club

    • @jldch26
      @jldch26 5 лет назад +4

      I think it was mentioned because Leipzig was East German. However, considering the club is only 10 years old, it's obviously not East German.

    • @mariop8101
      @mariop8101 5 лет назад

      @Jericho Jezza Plastic are all bayern fans from outside Munich. I hate all the big historic teams in Europe, I love to see them loose.

    • @mohamedamineserrar6178
      @mohamedamineserrar6178 5 лет назад +1

      don't you like to actually having a team from eastern germany competing ? if I was from leipzig, I'll be pretty damn proud. More clubs should follow their model, If i was bayern, bvb or stuttgart, I wouldn't like going to a boiling stadium if it was a mid table team.

    • @picoreturns_
      @picoreturns_ 5 лет назад

      @@mohamedamineserrar6178 In Leipzig 50% like RB Leipzig, and 50% hate RB and are still Fans from Lok Leipzig or Chemie Leipzig

    • @nilsg4695
      @nilsg4695 5 лет назад

      @@mohamedamineserrar6178 No club shoul follow this model, which isn´t even allowed by the DFL and DFB. You can´t get a member with rights in this "club", all the power is to Red Bull. The club bought a seventh division teams licence and brought money into it, just to get to first division in 8 years. Thats not fair to teams which follow the rules, with many fans and great tradition. Football in germany is more than just competing with the best (Bayern, BVB...). It´s about athmosphere in the stadium, it´s about stand together in good and bad times. And "clubs" like RB try to destroy the german football, just to promote energy drink. The real fans in Leipzig go to Lok or Chemie in division 4, because you don´t change your club, only plastic fans do this

  • @shanefelkel9966
    @shanefelkel9966 11 месяцев назад

    I used to watch Soccer Made in Germany with host Toby Charles on the U.S. PBS stations (probably 1979-80 or so). Remember Lokomotiv Leipzig, Carl Zeiss Jena, and Dynamo Dresden. Never really thought about what happened to them after those times. Interesting video to say the least.

  • @ramieg4693
    @ramieg4693 5 лет назад +44

    Hopefully rb leipzig drop right back down to the 20th division and never come back. I would be glad if any other east german team took their place

  • @edmundalcock1986
    @edmundalcock1986 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic video. One of the best i've seen on YT

  • @Klausisyoutube
    @Klausisyoutube 5 лет назад +11

    It´s a shame, how the merge of the leagues was managed.

    • @SKa-tt9nm
      @SKa-tt9nm 4 года назад

      Klaus why? The GDR teams were much weaker.

    • @eric11
      @eric11 2 года назад

      @@SKa-tt9nm not true

  • @Sheikh_General
    @Sheikh_General 3 года назад +1

    This has been my dream to learn about the Germany football system

  • @wiiiin
    @wiiiin 5 лет назад +92

    Boah die deutschen Akzente tun echt weh in den Ohren 😀

    • @estebancienfuegos8737
      @estebancienfuegos8737 5 лет назад +18

      Sich über den deutschen Englischakzent aufregen ist auch so deutsch. Verklemmt ohne Ende.

    • @wiiiin
      @wiiiin 5 лет назад

      Esteban Cienfuegos ohh ja 😃 sind ja nicht alleine auf der Welt

    • @patrickseidel218
      @patrickseidel218 5 лет назад +7

      @@estebancienfuegos8737 Stimmt! Dabei sprechen Spanier oder Italiener kein besseres Englisch.

    • @artisdying
      @artisdying 5 лет назад +1

      @@estebancienfuegos8737 Kein Problem bei normalen Leuten, aber wenn man als Deutschlandwelle einen englischsprachigen Artikel rausbringt, kann man eigentlich mehr verlangen. Sprechertraining gibts auch für andere Sprachen.

    • @K2ELP
      @K2ELP 4 года назад +1

      @@artisdying Solange es gut verständlich ist?

  • @FootballWithBrownie
    @FootballWithBrownie 3 года назад +1

    Really enjoyed this video

  • @Younes87
    @Younes87 5 лет назад +19

    Ich würde diesen Channel ja feiern, da die gut recherchiert und geschnitten sind, aber der extreme deutsche Akzent geht so verdammt auf die Nerven.

    • @tj-nh6pn
      @tj-nh6pn 5 лет назад +15

      Man kann sich natürlich auch über jeden Rotz aufregen

    • @lukas6824
      @lukas6824 5 лет назад +4

      @@tj-nh6pn Ne aber es tut wirklich weh. Auch wenn ich selbst auch einen ekelhaften deutschen Akzent
      beim Englisch sprechen habe.

    • @Younes87
      @Younes87 5 лет назад +1

      TJ_1009 Ton ist halt die Hälfte des Produkts... und die Musik ist genauso nervig

    • @samykiani944
      @samykiani944 5 лет назад +5

      @@tj-nh6pn So sind sie die Deutschen. Sich immer über alles beschweren ist ihr Nationalsport.😂

    • @Regisseur95
      @Regisseur95 5 лет назад +2

      Als Alternative hättest du dann halt einen englischen Muttersprachler, der weder die deutschen Vereins-, noch Spielernamen aussprechen kann. Davon gibt es genug.

  • @JackGillies
    @JackGillies 4 года назад

    I am a Hibs fan and we had a player from East Germany. Matthias Jack was a CDM and he was born in Leipzig. He played for both Lok and Chemie before the wall came down he was also capped 8 or 9 times for the DDR national team, After the wall fell he moved to Fortuna Düsseldorf then us then he went back to another old East German club Erzgebirge Aue. So Hibs have the East German connection

  • @TheLoughDuck55
    @TheLoughDuck55 5 лет назад +4

    Union?

  • @TheBusbyBabes
    @TheBusbyBabes 3 года назад +1

    9:40 "now its fantastic to live there" except for saxony, we dont talk about saxony xD

  • @linusroslund3443
    @linusroslund3443 5 лет назад +7

    0:28 Uwe rösler deutsche suuuperman, shalalalalalalala, uwe rösler han kan viiiinna han, shalalalalalalalalala, uuuuuuwwwweeeeeee röööösler!

  • @TheSpookyDuke
    @TheSpookyDuke 3 года назад

    Great, great channel, super interesting reportages... kudos!

  • @Natsukiiroi
    @Natsukiiroi 5 лет назад +3

    Glad to know some German Football History Nice Video Thanks 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄

  • @MySadExistence
    @MySadExistence 3 года назад +1

    Energie Cottbus did very well climbing their way up to the Bundesliga after reunification. They unfortunately collapsed afterwards and are now in the 4th tier again

  • @jonasmarung4529
    @jonasmarung4529 5 лет назад +32

    I think it would be better if you speak german and have subtitles ^^

    • @barosul9712
      @barosul9712 5 лет назад +3

      no

    • @manofgod7622
      @manofgod7622 5 лет назад +12

      Yes, english title and they should speak german.
      Oh yes, new genius

    • @TS29er
      @TS29er 5 лет назад +2

      @@lukasp5892 Wir Deutschen sollten lernen, nicht so hart auf den Akzent zu geiern, das macht aus außer uns niemand (außer vllt die Franzosen), wichtig ist, dass man ihn versteht und das tut man sehr gut, also kein problem...und glaub mir, ich finde den deutschen Akzent genauso grauenhaft wie du :D

    • @ConnbineHarvester
      @ConnbineHarvester 5 лет назад +3

      I wouldn't have watched it if it was in German! Most of the comments are in English so I think or hope the point of the clip was to tell non Germans some history that most Germans probably know already!

    • @Tommy20136
      @Tommy20136 5 лет назад

      Funny how only Germans seem to be bothered by his accent

  • @thomasjohnson2862
    @thomasjohnson2862 5 лет назад +2

    Great video, it's interesting what you learn about society and life through football. Great to learn about Germany and the impact of the fall of the wall. I looked at the German political election results in 2017 after watching this video, and wasn't surprised to see the AfD party getting significantly higher votes in the east of the country than the west. The issues the football clubs faced in East Germany are similar to its economic issues in general of the region. Hope things improve step by step!

    • @xxdavecz3811
      @xxdavecz3811 5 лет назад +1

      In last elections in East Germany, Communists who ruled there before Berlin Wall Fall for 40 years, won elections with over 30% votes. East Germany vote for Communists massively

    • @xxdavecz3811
      @xxdavecz3811 5 лет назад +1

      In last elections in East Germany, Communists who ruled there before Berlin Wall Fall for 40 years, won elections with over 30% votes. East Germany vote for Communists massively

  • @AdamKurta
    @AdamKurta 5 лет назад +3

    It's quite symptomatic of how the whole reunification went. The reunification was basically East Germany accepting the West Germany's capitalist system. Logically, people, factories and football clubs weren't able to compete in such environment - people lost their jobs, factories closed and football clubs got relegated. In Germany, you call this process of deregulation and privatisation "Reunification", in my coutry we called it "running down the West". Today, 30 years after the Iron Curtain fell, we're all unified, but still not equal. If you ever wondered why is AfD so popular in eastern Germany (or far-right in the eastern block generally), start looking here for reasons.

    • @thetrashman3129
      @thetrashman3129 5 лет назад

      It was an annexation rather than reunification

  • @Harlock2day
    @Harlock2day 3 года назад

    Good video. I knew nothing those developments. It would be good to see East German clubs make a come back.

  • @DjOcramCombatSkill
    @DjOcramCombatSkill 5 лет назад +11

    4:20 "RED BULL Leipzig" hahaha

    • @cztrca
      @cztrca 4 года назад +2

      "rasenballsport" lol

    • @justrandomguy694
      @justrandomguy694 4 года назад

      @@cztrca I must told you something
      Your joke isn't funny

    • @ilovenatsuki1384
      @ilovenatsuki1384 4 года назад

      @@justrandomguy694 It's not joke it's truth

  • @maximumkillmtg
    @maximumkillmtg 5 лет назад

    Very eye-opening and informative. Thank you.

  • @saminyead1233
    @saminyead1233 5 лет назад +8

    What do you mean no East German club is a part of Bundesliga? What is Union Berlin then?

    • @rotua98
      @rotua98 5 лет назад +2

      it just happen recently and also they do comment that said union berlin wasnt part of east german top division at the time

  • @DirtyPoul
    @DirtyPoul 5 лет назад

    I don't even watch football, but I watched this video for the history. Superb video.

  • @ulfurkarlsson5885
    @ulfurkarlsson5885 5 лет назад +6

    Yes, because the money is in the west .

  • @douweshots
    @douweshots 5 лет назад

    This video shows Toni Kroos as the best german player from the last decade while being from the east. But he was the only east-german player in their wc winning squad. There is still a huge difference between west and east

  • @mrsd8401
    @mrsd8401 5 лет назад +18

    My wife is German, and I still have a soft spot for the DDR. Beyond football, the administrative West have done more damage to the former East than most people realise

    • @skobird2732
      @skobird2732 5 лет назад

      It seems some Germans just wish they could have been Nazi's

    • @mrsd8401
      @mrsd8401 5 лет назад +4

      @Skrooge Lantay there is more to the picture than meets the eye...

    • @geoffgane4861
      @geoffgane4861 5 лет назад +2

      Dynamo Berlin was probably the most corrupt club that had ever been. 10 consecutive GDR championship titles in a row under very dubious circumstances. Any apologist for the GDR is just as bad as anyone who sticks up for the Nazis.

    • @thewarlock539
      @thewarlock539 4 года назад

      @ This is exactly why many people hate germany

  • @KaitainCPS
    @KaitainCPS 3 года назад

    This was really interesting. Thanks.

  • @KackUp94
    @KackUp94 5 лет назад +5

    Wismut AUE! atm second most succesful team of the former East. ;)

  • @louisskins
    @louisskins 5 лет назад +1

    In June of 1989 I competed in the youth World Cup in Scotland. In our group was USA, Brazil, East Germany and Australia. In a still shocking to this day first game my US team beat Brazil 1-0. A hard fought victory against a very talented Brazilian side. But nothing could have prepared me or my teammates for the absolute onslaught the East Germans put on us. I will never forget it bc I’ve NEVER seen white dudes that fast in my life. Wtf?
    They countered us so quickly that it was 3-0 by the time we could comprehend what was happening and I believe it ended in a very lopsided 5-1 defeat.
    But 2 things I will also never forget was how, with the exception of maybe 2 players these boys were all seemingly identical. 6ft blond hair blue eyes with enormous hands.
    The other was how exceptionally well they played against us. Tactically superior. Physically superior. Technically superior as well.
    However, I’ve since learned about the alleged widespread use of steroids among East German athletes and would be curious if anyone from that youth side could confirm or deny their use during that competition. This isn’t a gotcha moment and I’m not writing a tell all book. I’m just trying to find out if the strength and speed those boys displayed were natural or enhanced.
    It’s a shame that the unification had such an initial negative result for East Germany and particularly those young players I had the pleasure of competing against.
    So often our media outlets mold and shape our perceptions of “other” people based on their relative relationship to US foreign interests. Soon that misperception becomes a blanket broad stroke definition for any and everyone.
    There was one word that was obviously used to identify these young men. Based on what little I knew at that time I was expecting some maniacal, methodical, unfeeling super soldier athletes.
    Only the latter was really true. In a competition that promoted Fair Play as its motto I got booked against East Germany.
    5 months after that East Germany no longer existed.

    • @vullevinho
      @vullevinho 5 лет назад

      louis skins did some research and i found out you played against former chelsea goalie mark schwarzer in that same tournament, so thats pretty cool

    • @louisskins
      @louisskins 5 лет назад

      remicool man who did he play for? I think Roberto Carlos played for Brazil too.

  • @Boeing77733
    @Boeing77733 5 лет назад +6

    red bull is NOT an EAST CLUB!!!!!!!!! and they are not accepted in german football!!!!!!

  • @tilok.1785
    @tilok.1785 5 лет назад +1

    Great Video , great Channel einfach grandios . Grüße aus Deutschland

  • @colonelgoodstep
    @colonelgoodstep 5 лет назад +4

    Hallo Flom South Korea !!!

  • @frankmachin5438
    @frankmachin5438 5 лет назад +2

    Hey....this was a terrific story....very interesting - thank-you!

  • @grdn2607
    @grdn2607 5 лет назад +5

    Would be interesting to see an American style format in Germany with a Western and Eastern conference and then playoffs between the teams, even in a cup competition.

    • @FriedrichHerschel
      @FriedrichHerschel 5 лет назад +2

      The west would still dominate. The eastern part of Germany still is way behind economically, which also means less money from sponsors, and with less money you can't get the best players, or hold the cheap good ones you might get with better scouting.

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese 2 года назад

    The way the two leagues were put together is scandalous, unbelievable.

  • @robleeuknhl3345
    @robleeuknhl3345 5 лет назад +4

    I work in Germany this was really interesting I love an under dog lots hope the east makes a come back Leipzig look good

  • @vgrin7307
    @vgrin7307 5 лет назад

    Obviously it doesn't look so good now for the old east-German clubs. But 10+ years ago, both Hansa Rostock and Energie Cottbus were in the Bundesliga. So, it's just rn that it doesn't look so good.

  • @hejabghazanfar2146
    @hejabghazanfar2146 5 лет назад +4

    Now there are 2 east German teams are in the bundesliga: rb Leipzig and UNION berlin

    • @Lerbynator
      @Lerbynator 5 лет назад +3

      Union Berlin is correct, but RB Leipzig isn't a real east german team, they buyed their license to play 2009. 20 years after the reunifaction, that means they aren't a GDR club, but a club located in the former GDR.

  • @ThePinkMadcap
    @ThePinkMadcap 3 года назад

    Dinamo Berlin being a regular winner before '89 is no surprise. Most "Dinamo" teams in Eastern Europe did that since were the teams most closely associated with the system, with players and important staff members being awarded military grades, etc. So there were some upsides

  • @shirleylyn11
    @shirleylyn11 5 лет назад +4

    "...And since 2005, we even have an East German Chancellor".
    Not something to brag about...

  • @Nwihsphysio
    @Nwihsphysio 3 года назад +1

    Who here after 🇨🇵1-0🇩🇪 at Euro 2021???