"Have to forgive" OMFFFG. As a trauma survivor, forgiving is amazing if someone owns up to what they did, accept your anger and agree to move on. It's impossible if the person that harmed you refuses to admit responsibility, or behave like a decent human being. Anger, however righteous, is harmful to the one that feels it. Sometimes it is inevitable, as anger is still better than denial. Now that I saw the clip: this is horrifying. Therapy, years of therapy, not a crash diet, please.
@@ellauglov8891 the concept of forgiveness can be helpful IF the person is ready to do so and it is their free choice. It can create a feeling of regaining control, getting out of the victim narrative and creating space for your own personal development and leaving the incident behind without freeing the person who caused the trauma from the consequences of their action. However, the act of not forgiving and intentionally saying “I do not want to forgive” instead of I’m not able to can lead to regaining autonomy and self efficacy as well. Taking the anger and using it as a tool of knowing what you want and how you want to be treated by people and as freeing motivation can also be a way to cope with trauma and it is therapeutically speaking valid. Take your time and do not feel forced! (Sorry if my grammar is off, English is my second language)
@@ellauglov8891 I'm not a therapist, but I have experience with trauma. You can reach forgiveness - as I have in some cases - or not, as I haven't in others. Let's see if I can explain. Say someone chops your arm off. In one case the person admits they mishandled a tool and it has cost you an arm, they accept their responsibility and ask if you could ever forgive them. In another case the person turns to you and says "Oh, you got a booboo, too bad." In a third case the person flees never to be seen again. You will be angry anyway, after all, you have lost something precious. In the first case, you were validated by the person who hurt you, on the others you weren't. If you can't "forgive", or resolve that anger, it tends to get misdirected at the world and make your own life harder. It's like your base level of grumpy goes up long term and you can't appreciate the nice people, the ones that are trying to help because you mistrust everything. That's where therapy comes in, to help you understand that your anger is valid, but for you to try and lower your general distrust. That's how it has worked for me. I hope I was able to help.
I gained 20 pounds after being assaulted. If someone ever told me that the only thing that’ll help me would be forgiveness, that would be the last time I ever spoke to them. Holy shit how upsetting.
I am not trying to take away from your experience, but for me at least, the forgiveness is for you. You are forgiving someone who doesn't deserve it because it's going to help you move on. In my experience it's empowering. You're taking back the power. *NOT DEFENDING THE NUTRITUONIST IN THE VIDEO*
@@haileyabecassis3713 You know what - NOT HELPING. Survivors have heard this a million times. Let us forgive in our own time and in our own way. Don't try to talk people into it.
@@shariwelch8760 I AM A SURVIVOR. Did you read my comment? I specifically said I am not trying to take away from her experience and I said this is what worked in MY case. Think before you speak, as this is a very hurtful comment for someone who is on their journey to recovery.
As a therapist, hearing someone be told they need to forgive their rapist in order to heal made me want to cry. That's one of the most damaging things I've ever heard anyone say to a survivor. For anyone wondering, you can absolutely process your trauma and live a meaningful and wonderful and incredible life while forever hating the guts of the person who abused you. Forgiveness is important to some people, but not a requirement for healing for all people. We're all different and if you can't see a future where forgiveness is something you can achieve, that doesn't mean you won't ever be well.
Thank you, this is something I still struggle with. When my granddad died I opened up about what happened, then spent years apologising to his dead soul that I told. Eventually I was told that just because someone dies, it doesn't make them an angel (he was bad, death doesn't erase that). Now that my father did some messed up shite I can't forgive him, and everyone thinks I should (the "he's still your dad" comments make me see red). Good to know from a professional that I don't have to forgive to move on.
@Bluegrey Skies that entirely depends on the individual,but achieve is perhaps the wrong word. For some people forgiveness is very important to their healing process and that's okay, just not by any means a requirement.
Wow. No one has ever told me this. It’s always, forgive, look to the future. Kinda different but I told my therapist how me and my mom get into fights sometimes and all she focused on was how my mom felt. And it just rubbed me the wrong way. I get hurt by my mom and I’m supposed to put myself in her shoes? She also told me to go on dates to get over my ex. And idk. Fuck I need a new therapist
As a former tennis instructor, if one of our students threw up, we didn’t celebrate-we got them out of the sun IMMEDIATELY and sent them home. Inhumane is right.
People Only Threw-Up On The First Day Of Track Practice If They Never Worked-Out Before. My Coach Didn’t Care, He Was Tryin’ To Get The Non Serious Runnners Out.
I read Khloe’s book and in it she says she started her fitness journey slowly. She started using the elliptical for less than an hour a few days a week and eventually worked up to using the elliptical every day. THEN she started doing more intense workouts, so it’s strange to me she had all these contestants working out like athletes their first day. I get that it’s a tv show, and they want results fast but this is unrealistic and she knows that because she didn’t start out doing the most in the gym.
Wouldn't it be amazing if we still watched it if people lost 5 kg in 3 months and you would barely see a difference, but learn more about health, sustainable weight loss etc.?
Right? I will not excuse nor forgive the person who did that to me. I have the right to tell them to go to hell and never forgive them. I'm more internally satisfied thinking that they will drown in guilt (even though they don't know or care tbh) than to excuse the immoral actions
The day she stops Photoshop on all her posts and loses weight without a personal trainer and personal chef with a gym in her house, I might take her seriously cause she's clearly oblivious to her situation
Lets just make this one point clear. Khloe has access to surgeries, chefs, and opportunities that your average joe doesn't. Her condescending tones and attitude infuriate me. No miss K. this diet and work out you put everyone through isn't what made you thin. Your privilege did. And I doubt you keep up a perfect life style that you try to immolate. This is biggest looser meets a new level of vanity. This show is for people who are brain washed into the myth that the Kardashians are 'just like us'. I'll never take diet advice, skin care advice, or even a breath mint from a family that's never seen a day of 'normal life'.
Eh that’s not really fair. Khloe has resources but so do plenty of people who are overweight (ex: there are tons of overweight celebs and billionaires). What she’s trying to do here is give people resources like trainers, food deliveries and even cosmetic procedures if that makes people feel better about themselves.
@@HelloBabygirl17 lol ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, you know people can be coerced into things they would not usually agree too under emotional distress? like... i dont know... divorce? not everything exists in a vacuum lare??? Lol
@@melissag8270 Oh, that show was the biggest train wreck. I watched it for the drama. One week, the women conspired to get the breast cancer survivor off the show because she would get too much sympathy.
That's what I was thinking. If these are the best of the best for trainers, I'll take someone mediocre. Yikes. You don't have to hurl your biscuits to have an effective workout and encouraging people to let it out us just - again, yikes. Yikes, yikes, yikes.
When I told my dietician that I was struggling to follow the plan we made, she helped me adjust it for mental health complications I was having at the time. She didn't tell me, "Goodbye," she worked with me to find ways to get back on track.
Sometimes I can't even recognize her on those pictures. It seems like she has self-esteem issues and tries hard to "look better". So she shouldn't be teaching people how to "feel good and loose weight" at the first place
@@katetempleton9669 i have the same "issue" as her except i'm the fat and short of a tall family and not the tall one in a short family. my solution was keep somewhat of a distance from them when they are toxic and shallow as hell. they are my blood family, but i don't have to endure their toxicity. i don't have to live by their standards. but khloe at 36 is still trying so hard to fit this stupid restrictive mold and it's very sad.
Also, she basically threatened her with bloodwork. I am a lab tech and was so mad at Khloe for her misinformation about how your food “shows” up in your blood work.
The manipulative language that Khloe Kardashian is pulling off in that one clip is really next level... That the participants need to stick with their insane routine because "it will change their life forever" and that somehow they are "really lucky to be there"... "I can just find another person to fill your place"... Kardashian is not charitable, she is just milking money and narcissistic supply from these people and from all of us watching.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this sound like something an abusive girlfriend/boyfriend would say? "You're lucky to be here" = "You're lucky you have me." "I can find another person to fill your place" = " I can replace you with someone new"
Exaclty. Maybe she really did want to help the contestants because she also used to be insecure about her own body, but I highly think that she was blinded by profits and underprioritized the health of the contestants
The way they spoke to that young lady just broke my heart. Like come on now potatoes and rice are fine foods to eat. she will get to a point where she will be ashamed for putting food in her mouth.
I've eaten rice, pasta, bread, potatoes & dairy products for years and still maintain a good figure. People constantly ask me what's my secret and here it is. Restrictions are not the answer. I got a package of oreos two weeks ago & opened it yesterday, ate two oreos & put the bag back in the fridge. If i was on some crazy diet that wouldn't allow me to eat cookies, i would've finished those bad boys in one sitting and felt guilty afterwards.
rice has extremely high calories so obviously if you want to lose weight you have to change your lifestyle. what planet do you live on? or do you accomplish your goals by dreaming and hoping??
why haven't more people talked about how problematic this show is?? When Kim Kardashian promoted weight loss lollipops on her instagram, people were ON HER. How did Khloe get away with doing a WHOLE ASS TV SHOW?!?! I'm shook.
Khloe got away with getting this show because her family is rich and connected in the industry. She is talentless just like the rest of the family but she need an income. TV and being a celebrity based off of her family name is all she knows.
Wow... wow so forgive someone who sexually assaulted you to help you lose weight? That is really obnoxious and Abby is right- that poor woman needs to talk to a professional to help her with that. Many of us who have had this type of trauma suffer from various types of eating disorders and mental issues from not only being assaulted, but the stigma and how others treat us after. I hope that Abby can do a video with a mental health specialist and sort of expound on the connection with trauma and eating disorders (binge eating, severely restricting, purging, and otherwise).
The vomit scene was absolutely sick... like that’s insane. When I feel close to throwing up while working out I STOP and give myself a break. If I want to continue, I do. Literally this show is so messed up.
@@AbbeysKitchen please could you put a vomit warning on this video? I know it's 9 months old but I have emetophobia, as do many people, and this was extremely distressing & unexpected. Thank you x
As a therapist who specializes in the treatment of eating disorders, we do NOT !!! Ever encourage a client to forgive someone who has caused them Trauma. This can actually be incredibly damaging. They need to be able to feel how they feel and realize that forgiveness is an option, yes, they can still live a meaningful life even if they choose not to forgive
Me too I was so triggered when she said. No one says that to someone who has been sexual assault it’s disgusting. It happened to me before and I told was to forgive and forget and I would so defensive and angry because they putting on a peda stool but I want to recover from the trauma . I’m disgusted by this show right now.
Not helpful to puke cause workout is so hard and as forforgiving the unforgivable? Um. Are you effing kidding me? Nothing said on that show is helpful info
One thing about this show that I just can't is the fact that Khloe DID NOT get get body by just exercising and eating healthy. No ones Butt just grows over night with no definition to the legs, just saying🤷♀️!
So these people go from being ridiculed in their everyday lives for their weight to being ridiculed on this show for not losing enough weight? Plus, the torturous workouts, sometimes to the point of vomiting?! This is insane! How is this supposed to be helpful???
I ain't a therapist in the slightest. I took one phycology class in high school and thats literally it. And even I know telling your patient to forgive their abuser is the worst advice in the world.
I feel like the concept of starting your fitness journey is taken away when you do it to get "revenge". Do it for yourself! I like to work out, eat healthily, and eat intuitively to become the healthiest version of myself and make sustainable changes. Thank you for all you do Abby, you have helped me so much with disordered eating and I'm so grateful for you. I look forward to your videos and I'm glad to see you posting a bunch :D
@@AbbeysKitchen as an overweight person this show ticked me off!! I’m losing weight at the moment because I saw myself getting depressed with Covid-19 social distancing and lost of income so I started working out in room!!!!! I’m down sizes and feel more energy!!! I’ve got a long road but I’M worth it and it’s for ME and no one else!! Thank you !
I'm a college cross country runner. It took me YEARS to safely be able to workout for an hour or more every day. I only workout for more than an hour one day a week. Many people in my sport think its normal to throw up from working out, but it is absolutely NOT OKAY. I hate seeing the way they make people work out on this show.
That "forgiving your abuser" scene literally made me cry. 1) you are *not* a therapist 2) what a disgusting way to talk to someone who just shared something so intimate with you 3) if they have "the best of the best" team, get her mental health treatment and CBT You do NOT need to forgive your abuser until you're ready to... and you may never be but don't EVER tell someone that is how they need to move past their entire world being shattered and losing all sense of safety and security. They should be sued for that.
"if I don't see numbers I'm gonna have to drop you", just a couple of minutes in and it's already disgusting. As someone with disordered eating habits I already put so much of my worth on numbers (on the scale, clothing size, measurements). I can't even imagine what I'd do if someone said this to me, but it wouldn't be healthy. Just hearing Khloe say that to that girl made me feel even more guilty than I already do for not losing my quarantine weight fast enough
I have been struggling with my weight for more than 15 years. And I am getting thirty next month. I still have disordered eating habits - currently, binging. If someone told me such a thing, I would have probably set my self into a starving mode. This is triggering af - and in the most horrible way.
Revenge body is very disturbing. Thank you for creating content like this. We need to be more vocal about harmful content and not let it become normalized or accepted.
i love that you say that a healthy and happy pursuit of aesthetics is a valid reason to lose weight! i think some people in the body posi movement perpetuate shame around wanting to lose weight for personal aesthetic reasons, even when people do it for themselves bc they truly enjoy looking a certain way!
Wow, "if I don't see a change in your weight I'll have to drop you and find someone else." That's such a horrible thing to say to someone. She's treating the clients as badly as the person they want revenge on.
Wow, that’s disgusting. Also just as an aside, what happens when hot body seeking revenge doesn’t actually get revenge ( the ex doesn’t care, has moved on, or doesn’t share hot body’s obsession)?
If you’re heavier, then losing weight will naturally make you feel better overall. I think that was the concept behind a “revenge body”. It’s just extreme on this show to sell it.
In some cases I, a layperson, would guess that hot body will try to lose even more weight until this uncaring person cares, which will be never - who knows how far they might take it
I always assumed the show was harmless having not watched it but now...good god. This show needs to be canceled and participants need to be issued a sincere apology for what they endured. This is not okay.
Wow, I've never seen the Revenge Body show. However, from the clips shared, as a counsellor, I am truly alarmed. I'm appreciating your videos and your common sense approach to food and health. Thank you for making them.
The fact that she tries to make them focus harder on their diet by “it’s just a few weeks” is only gonna keep them in a cycle of eating really “good” till they lose weight and then as soon as the “diet” is over they go back to “bad” eating and gain the weight back.
All of their children have quite a road ahead of them regarding their bodies and self love ... even ableism gets wrapped up in it. I didn’t realize how damaging watching my mother was FOR ME. It transfers, reflects. God bless them.
Re: 14:30. I read something once about the correlation between obesity and childhood trauma - specifically to do with sexual assault. It was only a theory, but the researchers suggested that people who had been sexually abused used food as a coping mechanism and the weight gain was subconsciously used to make them feel safe because they believed they were sexually undesirable. It's heartbreaking and not talked about enough. And shows like this made by people who really just want to make money make me so angry.
On my 600lb life with the women like 80% of the time they had those sorts of things happen to them when they were younger. So I definitely think abuse is a weight gain trigger for sure.
I think we must have read the same study. I wish this information was more widely known and talked about rather than assuming fault with the individual. I guess it sorta makes sense in that it's consistent, society victim blames those who experienced abuse, and we blame people for their weight.
This is only anecdotal, of course, but the majority of the people on My 600lb Life have some sort of trauma: abusive parent(s), sexual trauma (childhood and adult). They explicitly say that they have used food to cope with their issues; part of treatment is going into therapy to address the cause of the eating. Many of them also come from homes where food was used to show love or is a bond among siblings.
OMG. This is my life story for several years. I went trough two years of working with therapist to overcome my mentality to gain “revenge body”. On the journey while! I desperately wanted my “revenge body” I have gained the most weight of my entire life. This was the hardest time for me. And after two years I started to get better. Only started. Omg, this show EXACTLY INHUMANE.
Abbey I am new to your channel and content but I just have to say I think you are such a breathe of fresh air in a culture which is just bombarded with weight gain guilt and crazy fad diets that are neither healthy or sustainable. I appreciate your content is for entertainment and general education but its so great to be able to see a dietician take an honest, compassionate, evidence based approach to some really damaging tropes that are out there. THANK YOU! 🙌🙌
Being told so casually to forgive her abuser is so upsetting. As someone who was violently raped as a teenager, I am horrified that this happened and that it aired for other victims to hear. Saying that was also abuse and I’m sure traumatizing.
Oh my God that man was almost throwing up and his trainer was just watching him like throwing up is a normal thing:/ how the hell he has his graduate? :///
Tbh that kind of mentality reminds me of the coaches from my days as a competitive gymnast and it’s toxic as fuck. I quit 4 years ago now and I still have trauma from those kinds of people. Watching that clip was really hard and I feel for him :(
@@ryuusu I'm sorry about that :( yeah this show really sucks. It literally doesn't have any good points neither mentally nor physically. Btw, what's the meaning of Tbh? 😅
I honestly never understood the appeal of this type of show. A lot of what happens in there is just straight up abuse that gets branded as "tough love" to make it more acceptable to the viewers
The best revenge is NO revenge. It’s self love, surrounding your self with loving people & gratitude for all you have. The “revenge” comes when people see you happy & thriving from the inside shining out
As a clinical social worker, i would never tell someone they need to forgive their rapist. Forgiveness of your abuser is absolutely NOT necessarily working through trauma
I think the trainer talking about the liquid diet was talking about 400 calories per smoothie. She was gonna have 3 smoothies a day plus a “crunchy snack”. That’s 1200+ calories. Still not ideal for a person of that size, but better than 400 cal a day. That’s how I interpreted it, at least.
I really like these type of videos, they lead reflection over the psychology dangers of watching these triggering programs for some people. In another matter, I'd like to say that your videos have also helped me improve my English fluency, English is not my first language, and you use a ton of expressions that help build up and strengthen my vocabulary, sending you tons of love!
While I do find Keeping up with the Kardashians entertaining, that's the only show of theirs that I watch. I dont like the concept of the Revenge Body show and I don't agree with the message it promotes!!
tw: ed this is just my personal experience with why you should never lose weight for someone else- growing up my mom used to always criticize and make jokes about my weight. i was tired of it so when i was 14 i decided to go on what i thought was a health journey. it looked like i was doing all the right things, i started exercising more and eating better.BUT the problem with weight loss for someone else is that the feeling becomes addictive- i got obsessed with other people being proud of me. after that, the weight loss never felt like enough because i was scared that my mom would be ashamed of me again if i did something as simple as eating a cookie. When my dad started telling me i didn’t eat enough and i needed to stop losing weight because i was making myself sick it felt like a compliment, like i was SO GOOD at weight loss that i’d achieved and far surpassed my goals. when my mom started saying that too it was just the most frustrating thing in the world because all i could think was “screw you this is what you wanted me to do” “i did this for you, because of you” and yeah that’s kind of it. i’m almost 18 now and i’m technically in ana recovery but i relapse so often i’m not even sure you can call it that. my best advice is that if you’re making lifestyle choices, make sure your heart is in the right place
Getting "revenge" on somebody by doing exactly what your bullies told you to do (loose weight and whatever else you need to do, to be more "acceptable" for society) and getting bullied on TV if you don't get there fast enough? WTF? Am I missing something?!
As a international model I LOVE your videos ! They have been helping me so much to find my own healthy balance with food. It’s crazy how brainwashed society is- we dictate ourselves how we should eat ... based on what? I think our bodies know US more than an ad or trend.
As a future RD, this video makes me want to cry and scream. I feel so bad for these people they're trying to "help." The one woman is straight-up confessing and apologizing for eating refried beans and rice--literally two of the most amazing, nutrient-dense foods out there!! Not only is their information unscientific, but it truly is "inhumane" as you put it. Wow.
It infuriates me how they say "it will make your mind body and soul feel good to get a revenge body", then the producers and team treat the participants like numbers.
The best revenge is living a happy life and not thinking about revenge anymore. I feel bad for all the Kardashians. They grew up in this toxic bubble and all the money can't buy happiness and self love.
💥💥💥IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE , TURN IT UP 💥💥💥 Btw I love how neither khloe nor her super duper Hollywood doctors seem to think about the fact that people lose weight at a different speed and in different ways
Can we also just talk about how it's absolutely possible to move forward and heal and thrive WITHOUT forgiving your abuser? You do not have to forgive, you do not have to forget. And you can still heal. This 'forgive and forget' idea was built for people with an obsession with getting even with those who've wronged them in superficial ways that don't actually affect their life, not for those who were harmed in such a cruel way that creates deep psychological trauma that affects their day-to-day life. It's insensitive and counterproductive.
Thanks for reviewing this show! That clip of Chloe talking to the lady saying she was going to drop her, wow just wow 😳 that hurt me hearing her say that. Smh
As a fellow woman who has been assaulted: you do not ever have to forgive the person that violated you and your human right to keep your body as a safe space that is only for you to decide how to be touched and held. Ever. I have forgiven the person that assaulted me in many many ways but that is something I will never forgive him.
I was on this show 💁🏻♀️ I am not in any of the clips here but Harley was my trainer. you’re not wrong about much of what you’ve said here, but ALOT of the editing that goes into this show manipulates what actually happened to look a certain way. Just remember it’s reality tv 🙃 if you want to know more about the experience in depth and then critique it I’m happy to answer questions!
Abbey, I love your videos. You are so good at phrasing what I am thinking - I am just in front of my screen, nodding, being like "yes", "yep", "exactly". I really enjoy how you back up your opinions with scientific proof. In addition, I am learning new things. Thanks so much for this content!
You should review an episode of “eat yourself sexy”! It’s dramatized of course but it focuses more on eating whole foods and such and I’d be interested in seeing you review it 🧐
As an exercise scientist and menstrual cycle educator I am legit worried about how this type of exercise (and nutrition) is impacting these women’s hormones. This type of diet and exercise can lead to a loss of period really quick which presents a host of problems.
Thankyou for shedding light on this! I honestly can't believe the show was allowed on air, if I was to see this show in my most vulnerable mindset it would have been so damaging. This is the type of show I would hope my younger sister, family and friends are never exposed to because the messages are so toxic. Love your channel and thankyou for providing such great information xx
Can I just say thank you so so much for this video- and all of them actually! It makes me want to cry. As someone who really struggles with a healthy relationship with food because of past diets, and has really benefited from your commentary, I really really appreciate It! I have been yo-yoing in weight for so long, so the fact that you educate us on how some foods fill an emotional need, and that’s okay, has changed me. Because I don’t restrict, I now understand more about what my body craves more than ever, and I’m definitely heading in a good direction. I never thought I’d get to a point where I looked at a container of ice cream, and passed on It because I really didn’t feel like any. And I never thought I could ever eat a piece of candy again, without extreme guilt and disgust. So thank you so much for your content. Even though these shows promote so much bad, watching you explain things actually helps makes your points more clear to me. Love ya!!! 💕
The best revenge ... is evidence-based therapy.
Totally
Self love and care is where it’s at
True dat
💯💯💯
Evidence based therapists don't let you do revenge though 😩
As a psychologist the whole concept of telling someone that they have to forgive the person that caused their trauma is more than problematic!
"Have to forgive" OMFFFG. As a trauma survivor, forgiving is amazing if someone owns up to what they did, accept your anger and agree to move on. It's impossible if the person that harmed you refuses to admit responsibility, or behave like a decent human being. Anger, however righteous, is harmful to the one that feels it. Sometimes it is inevitable, as anger is still better than denial. Now that I saw the clip: this is horrifying. Therapy, years of therapy, not a crash diet, please.
@@ellauglov8891 the concept of forgiveness can be helpful IF the person is ready to do so and it is their free choice. It can create a feeling of regaining control, getting out of the victim narrative and creating space for your own personal development and leaving the incident behind without freeing the person who caused the trauma from the consequences of their action. However, the act of not forgiving and intentionally saying “I do not want to forgive” instead of I’m not able to can lead to regaining autonomy and self efficacy as well. Taking the anger and using it as a tool of knowing what you want and how you want to be treated by people and as freeing motivation can also be a way to cope with trauma and it is therapeutically speaking valid. Take your time and do not feel forced! (Sorry if my grammar is off, English is my second language)
@@ellauglov8891 I'm not a therapist, but I have experience with trauma. You can reach forgiveness - as I have in some cases - or not, as I haven't in others. Let's see if I can explain. Say someone chops your arm off. In one case the person admits they mishandled a tool and it has cost you an arm, they accept their responsibility and ask if you could ever forgive them. In another case the person turns to you and says "Oh, you got a booboo, too bad." In a third case the person flees never to be seen again. You will be angry anyway, after all, you have lost something precious. In the first case, you were validated by the person who hurt you, on the others you weren't. If you can't "forgive", or resolve that anger, it tends to get misdirected at the world and make your own life harder. It's like your base level of grumpy goes up long term and you can't appreciate the nice people, the ones that are trying to help because you mistrust everything. That's where therapy comes in, to help you understand that your anger is valid, but for you to try and lower your general distrust. That's how it has worked for me. I hope I was able to help.
Thank you it is ridiculous!
For sure
I gained 20 pounds after being assaulted. If someone ever told me that the only thing that’ll help me would be forgiveness, that would be the last time I ever spoke to them. Holy shit how upsetting.
I'm sorry. Thank you for sharing your experience
I am not trying to take away from your experience, but for me at least, the forgiveness is for you. You are forgiving someone who doesn't deserve it because it's going to help you move on. In my experience it's empowering. You're taking back the power. *NOT DEFENDING THE NUTRITUONIST IN THE VIDEO*
Girl, you are BEAUTIFUL, 20 lbs or not!
I'm so sorry what you went through!
It's disgusting what some people can do to others!
@@haileyabecassis3713 You know what - NOT HELPING. Survivors have heard this a million times. Let us forgive in our own time and in our own way. Don't try to talk people into it.
@@shariwelch8760 I AM A SURVIVOR. Did you read my comment? I specifically said I am not trying to take away from her experience and I said this is what worked in MY case. Think before you speak, as this is a very hurtful comment for someone who is on their journey to recovery.
As a therapist, hearing someone be told they need to forgive their rapist in order to heal made me want to cry. That's one of the most damaging things I've ever heard anyone say to a survivor. For anyone wondering, you can absolutely process your trauma and live a meaningful and wonderful and incredible life while forever hating the guts of the person who abused you. Forgiveness is important to some people, but not a requirement for healing for all people. We're all different and if you can't see a future where forgiveness is something you can achieve, that doesn't mean you won't ever be well.
I know. It is very concerning
Thank you, this is something I still struggle with. When my granddad died I opened up about what happened, then spent years apologising to his dead soul that I told. Eventually I was told that just because someone dies, it doesn't make them an angel (he was bad, death doesn't erase that). Now that my father did some messed up shite I can't forgive him, and everyone thinks I should (the "he's still your dad" comments make me see red). Good to know from a professional that I don't have to forgive to move on.
@Bluegrey Skies that entirely depends on the individual,but achieve is perhaps the wrong word. For some people forgiveness is very important to their healing process and that's okay, just not by any means a requirement.
Thank you for sharing! ❤
Wow. No one has ever told me this. It’s always, forgive, look to the future. Kinda different but I told my therapist how me and my mom get into fights sometimes and all she focused on was how my mom felt. And it just rubbed me the wrong way. I get hurt by my mom and I’m supposed to put myself in her shoes? She also told me to go on dates to get over my ex. And idk. Fuck I need a new therapist
As a former tennis instructor, if one of our students threw up, we didn’t celebrate-we got them out of the sun IMMEDIATELY and sent them home. Inhumane is right.
I know. Thank you for sharing
The only time I threw up after working out, I had the flu. It is never a positive thing... I feel like that would be obvious.
People Only Threw-Up On The First Day Of Track Practice If They Never Worked-Out Before.
My Coach Didn’t Care, He Was Tryin’ To Get The Non Serious Runnners Out.
Lol I’m in the military and if someone was throwing up then there’s always that one guy who says “that’s what we call hard work”
Yes omg. Even my job let me go home because I was throwing up. Omggg
The vomiting scene and the "forgiving your abuser" scene is so so so upsetting
I know 🙁
I'm like noo she does not
This is why I find reality TV so morally bankrupt
I just wanted to punch all of them in the face, they have all never been through these mental issues
it's all so ridiculous. "professional" trainer. yeah right. real professional. & of course no survivor should be expected to forgive.
Oh my goodness why didn't they send Jill to a therapist? A nutritionist should not be the only person addressing emotional eating caused by trauma.
Totally
I read Khloe’s book and in it she says she started her fitness journey slowly. She started using the elliptical for less than an hour a few days a week and eventually worked up to using the elliptical every day. THEN she started doing more intense workouts, so it’s strange to me she had all these contestants working out like athletes their first day. I get that it’s a tv show, and they want results fast but this is unrealistic and she knows that because she didn’t start out doing the most in the gym.
For sure. Thanks for sharing
Wouldn't it be amazing if we still watched it if people lost 5 kg in 3 months and you would barely see a difference, but learn more about health, sustainable weight loss etc.?
@@missVierzehn1. Nobody would stay and watch that, 2. Nobody has the budget for that long term
I *Really* hate when people say the only way to get past sexual assault is to forgive their assailants.
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The only person that you should forgive is yourself ! you are right to point that out. It is a problem.
Right? I will not excuse nor forgive the person who did that to me. I have the right to tell them to go to hell and never forgive them. I'm more internally satisfied thinking that they will drown in guilt (even though they don't know or care tbh) than to excuse the immoral actions
Thank you for calling that out
Forgiveness is for yourself for healing the bible says pray for your enemies I do it it works u need God to heal u
Khloe is so out of touch with her own body, I don’t understand how she’s supposed to help anyone in that area
The day she stops Photoshop on all her posts and loses weight without a personal trainer and personal chef with a gym in her house, I might take her seriously cause she's clearly oblivious to her situation
Lets just make this one point clear. Khloe has access to surgeries, chefs, and opportunities that your average joe doesn't. Her condescending tones and attitude infuriate me. No miss K. this diet and work out you put everyone through isn't what made you thin. Your privilege did. And I doubt you keep up a perfect life style that you try to immolate. This is biggest looser meets a new level of vanity. This show is for people who are brain washed into the myth that the Kardashians are 'just like us'. I'll never take diet advice, skin care advice, or even a breath mint from a family that's never seen a day of 'normal life'.
I agree, she is completely not relatable to the people who are on her show
For sure, thanks for sharing your thoughts
Totally agree
Agree, but pretty much everything Kardashians do is discusting and morally questionable...
Eh that’s not really fair. Khloe has resources but so do plenty of people who are overweight (ex: there are tons of overweight celebs and billionaires). What she’s trying to do here is give people resources like trainers, food deliveries and even cosmetic procedures if that makes people feel better about themselves.
I think you describe it best when you say “this is inhumane”. Basically describes this whole show
I can’t help but think of that other show on E network that the brides had to compete for plastic surgery for their wedding day!!! Awful 😔
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@@HelloBabygirl17 lol ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, you know people can be coerced into things they would not usually agree too under emotional distress? like... i dont know... divorce? not everything exists in a vacuum lare??? Lol
@@melissag8270 Oh, that show was the biggest train wreck. I watched it for the drama. One week, the women conspired to get the breast cancer survivor off the show because she would get too much sympathy.
When she said she’s eating well EXCEPT FOR THE POTATO?! Omg I just... this show is so toxic.
Isn’t that a food that’s “grown in the ground” like they wanted?
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Yep it's super fucked up
People like that are sooo obsessed with the whole "no carb" thing.
And potato is actually very nutricious
When multiple people throw up on the first day of your training, you should rethink all your actions...
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That's what I was thinking. If these are the best of the best for trainers, I'll take someone mediocre. Yikes. You don't have to hurl your biscuits to have an effective workout and encouraging people to let it out us just - again, yikes. Yikes, yikes, yikes.
@@livinonacloud fr GERD is not fun!
Boom!
When I told my dietician that I was struggling to follow the plan we made, she helped me adjust it for mental health complications I was having at the time. She didn't tell me, "Goodbye," she worked with me to find ways to get back on track.
She never felt better but she heavily alters every picture and video of herself?
EXACTLYYYY!!!!!!!
Sometimes I can't even recognize her on those pictures. It seems like she has self-esteem issues and tries hard to "look better". So she shouldn't be teaching people how to "feel good and loose weight" at the first place
preach
she's an absolute tool of the patriarchy.
@@katetempleton9669 i have the same "issue" as her except i'm the fat and short of a tall family and not the tall one in a short family. my solution was keep somewhat of a distance from them when they are toxic and shallow as hell. they are my blood family, but i don't have to endure their toxicity. i don't have to live by their standards. but khloe at 36 is still trying so hard to fit this stupid restrictive mold and it's very sad.
Also, she basically threatened her with bloodwork. I am a lab tech and was so mad at Khloe for her misinformation about how your food “shows” up in your blood work.
You never have to forgive your abuser.
Of course
Forgiveness is not for them, it's for you
@@Furaha-light nope, you can cope and recover without ever forgiving the people who harmed you
@@Furaha-light it's not forgiveness, then. it's acceptance.
@@Kitty4u 100%
No, a therapist shouldn't tell people to forgive their abuser. That's horrifying.
I know 🙁
Agree, that's part of each person's individual journey. 🧡
She is a nutritionist that’s worse
Forgiving yourself for gaining weight 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Forgiving a person who hurt your body, sense of safety, self worth and joy, nope!
The manipulative language that Khloe Kardashian is pulling off in that one clip is really next level... That the participants need to stick with their insane routine because "it will change their life forever" and that somehow they are "really lucky to be there"... "I can just find another person to fill your place"... Kardashian is not charitable, she is just milking money and narcissistic supply from these people and from all of us watching.
It is definitely concerning
Also the fear mongering when she told the girl she’ll drop her from the show in exchange for someone who will lose weight faster.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this sound like something an abusive girlfriend/boyfriend would say? "You're lucky to be here" = "You're lucky you have me." "I can find another person to fill your place" = " I can replace you with someone new"
Exaclty. Maybe she really did want to help the contestants because she also used to be insecure about her own body, but I highly think that she was blinded by profits and underprioritized the health of the contestants
This!
Those five dislikes
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The nutritionist who said to just “forgive” the abuser should never be allowed to practice as a nutritionist again. Period.
The way they spoke to that young lady just broke my heart. Like come on now potatoes and rice are fine foods to eat. she will get to a point where she will be ashamed for putting food in her mouth.
I know 🙁
Was thinking the same. Like potatoes, rice and beans? What's wrong with those delicious whole foods!
I've eaten rice, pasta, bread, potatoes & dairy products for years and still maintain a good figure. People constantly ask me what's my secret and here it is. Restrictions are not the answer. I got a package of oreos two weeks ago & opened it yesterday, ate two oreos & put the bag back in the fridge. If i was on some crazy diet that wouldn't allow me to eat cookies, i would've finished those bad boys in one sitting and felt guilty afterwards.
What is wrong with rice and potatoes!!!
rice has extremely high calories so obviously if you want to lose weight you have to change your lifestyle. what planet do you live on? or do you accomplish your goals by dreaming and hoping??
The fact that I used to watch Revenge Body and not see these red flags is scary. Content like this messes with your head!!
why haven't more people talked about how problematic this show is?? When Kim Kardashian promoted weight loss lollipops on her instagram, people were ON HER. How did Khloe get away with doing a WHOLE ASS TV SHOW?!?! I'm shook.
I know, it is very concerning
Khloe got away with getting this show because her family is rich and connected in the industry. She is talentless just like the rest of the family but she need an income. TV and being a celebrity based off of her family name is all she knows.
I didn't know it even existed until today. I thought she'd written a book with this title. And maybe she did...
Wow... wow so forgive someone who sexually assaulted you to help you lose weight? That is really obnoxious and Abby is right- that poor woman needs to talk to a professional to help her with that. Many of us who have had this type of trauma suffer from various types of eating disorders and mental issues from not only being assaulted, but the stigma and how others treat us after.
I hope that Abby can do a video with a mental health specialist and sort of expound on the connection with trauma and eating disorders (binge eating, severely restricting, purging, and otherwise).
Thank you for the suggestion to discuss this
The vomit scene was absolutely sick... like that’s insane. When I feel close to throwing up while working out I STOP and give myself a break. If I want to continue, I do. Literally this show is so messed up.
For sure. I'm sorry it was difficult to watch
I can't believe this is allowed to be on TV. This is so triggering
When he said it is better out afterwards too, basically encouraging it. Disgusting.
@@AbbeysKitchen please could you put a vomit warning on this video? I know it's 9 months old but I have emetophobia, as do many people, and this was extremely distressing & unexpected. Thank you x
@@LeoliCat 10:58 to 11:22 is that part
As a therapist who specializes in the treatment of eating disorders, we do NOT !!! Ever encourage a client to forgive someone who has caused them Trauma. This can actually be incredibly damaging. They need to be able to feel how they feel and realize that forgiveness is an option, yes, they can still live a meaningful life even if they choose not to forgive
.....I can't believe the advice that woman gave was "stop eating and forgive your rapist"
I know, it is very concerning
Me too I was so triggered when she said. No one says that to someone who has been sexual assault it’s disgusting. It happened to me before and I told was to forgive and forget and I would so defensive and angry because they putting on a peda stool but I want to recover from the trauma . I’m disgusted by this show right now.
Not helpful to puke cause workout is so hard and as forforgiving the unforgivable? Um. Are you effing kidding me? Nothing said on that show is helpful info
One thing about this show that I just can't is the fact that Khloe DID NOT get get body by just exercising and eating healthy. No ones Butt just grows over night with no definition to the legs, just saying🤷♀️!
Exactly. I mean they must do those things, but why can’t they admit the surgeries they’ve had?!
@@sharondeepsays3551 Therein lies the million dollar question!
The show helps pay for her lipo
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You werent lying when you said this was a hot one. This episode is definitely going to be tough to sit through. I can't wait.
I hope it is informative!
So these people go from being ridiculed in their everyday lives for their weight to being ridiculed on this show for not losing enough weight? Plus, the torturous workouts, sometimes to the point of vomiting?! This is insane! How is this supposed to be helpful???
I know 🙁
The clips from the show were actually painful to watch. I don't understand how a show like this could be on the air
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I ain't a therapist in the slightest. I took one phycology class in high school and thats literally it. And even I know telling your patient to forgive their abuser is the worst advice in the world.
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Omg, I'm watching this while eating rice, refried beans, and a potato. Poor girl. Thank you, Abbey.
the vomit scene is SO absurd i can't believe it was included in the episode... they really thought people would find it inspiring! 🙄
I was inspired to turn the volume down. I think they enhanced the sound in editing because that was...a lot.
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Ugh, and how the trainer said, "Get it all out, it doesn't need to be in there anyway'. 🤬
@@parissinclair6513 that was the worst part of this whole video for me it was just horrible to hear
Giving me Biggest Lose vibes. I thought we were past this, guess not.
I’m sorry no potatoes, rice, or beans?!
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That's probably my whole diet as a vegetarian
@@amruthapadmasolala1564 yesterday I ate chickpeas, rice, potatoes and oatmeal! They would hate my diet
Bs. Everything should be enjoyed in moderation. Most "diets" are fads and unsustainable. Not a lifestyle
Where's Freelee when we need her? 🤣
I feel like the concept of starting your fitness journey is taken away when you do it to get "revenge". Do it for yourself! I like to work out, eat healthily, and eat intuitively to become the healthiest version of myself and make sustainable changes. Thank you for all you do Abby, you have helped me so much with disordered eating and I'm so grateful for you. I look forward to your videos and I'm glad to see you posting a bunch :D
For sure! I'm so glad it is helpful
You’re 100% right! You go girl!🥰
My husband is a psychologist who specializes in trauma and eating disorders. This entire show would absolutely horrify him.
Is it bad that I like the videos where Abbey goes off on toxic diet culture fads more than when she's nice?
😂I'm glad you enjoy them
@@AbbeysKitchen as an overweight person this show ticked me off!!
I’m losing weight at the moment because I saw myself getting depressed with Covid-19 social distancing and lost of income so I started working out in room!!!!!
I’m down sizes and feel more energy!!!
I’ve got a long road but I’M worth it and it’s for ME and no one else!!
Thank you !
I'm a college cross country runner. It took me YEARS to safely be able to workout for an hour or more every day. I only workout for more than an hour one day a week. Many people in my sport think its normal to throw up from working out, but it is absolutely NOT OKAY. I hate seeing the way they make people work out on this show.
Totally. Thanks for sharing your experience
I think the smoothies were 400 calories each. Which is still a daily intake of 1200 which seems very low for someone working out 7 days a week.
That’s what I thought too!
1200 calories isn't even enough for a sedentary individual, let alone someone working out for hours.
@@hannahc3317 I think he mentioned crunchy snacks in between the smoothies, I hope so…
That "forgiving your abuser" scene literally made me cry. 1) you are *not* a therapist 2) what a disgusting way to talk to someone who just shared something so intimate with you 3) if they have "the best of the best" team, get her mental health treatment and CBT
You do NOT need to forgive your abuser until you're ready to... and you may never be but don't EVER tell someone that is how they need to move past their entire world being shattered and losing all sense of safety and security. They should be sued for that.
"if I don't see numbers I'm gonna have to drop you", just a couple of minutes in and it's already disgusting. As someone with disordered eating habits I already put so much of my worth on numbers (on the scale, clothing size, measurements). I can't even imagine what I'd do if someone said this to me, but it wouldn't be healthy. Just hearing Khloe say that to that girl made me feel even more guilty than I already do for not losing my quarantine weight fast enough
I know, it is very concerning. I'm sorry if it was triggering for you
Right? As someone who’s struggled with both weight and abandonment issues, that would have broken me.
I have been struggling with my weight for more than 15 years. And I am getting thirty next month. I still have disordered eating habits - currently, binging. If someone told me such a thing, I would have probably set my self into a starving mode. This is triggering af - and in the most horrible way.
That... “therapist” just told the woman to “forgive” her abuser. My blood is BOILING.
The Kardashians are making even more profitable content that reinforces unrealistic body goals? Yikes I didn't know it could get worse
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Is this a new or an older show?
@@bouthaina975 I don't know, I live under a rock so I'd never heard of it until this video
@@hadassahm3016 🤣🤣 I would say that you dont waste your time watching it.
Revenge body is very disturbing. Thank you for creating content like this. We need to be more vocal about harmful content and not let it become normalized or accepted.
I'm so glad it is helpful
i love that you say that a healthy and happy pursuit of aesthetics is a valid reason to lose weight! i think some people in the body posi movement perpetuate shame around wanting to lose weight for personal aesthetic reasons, even when people do it for themselves bc they truly enjoy looking a certain way!
For sure! Glad that was helpful
Wow, "if I don't see a change in your weight I'll have to drop you and find someone else." That's such a horrible thing to say to someone. She's treating the clients as badly as the person they want revenge on.
Wow, that’s disgusting. Also just as an aside, what happens when hot body seeking revenge doesn’t actually get revenge ( the ex doesn’t care, has moved on, or doesn’t share hot body’s obsession)?
If you’re heavier, then losing weight will naturally make you feel better overall. I think that was the concept behind a “revenge body”. It’s just extreme on this show to sell it.
In some cases I, a layperson, would guess that hot body will try to lose even more weight until this uncaring person cares, which will be never - who knows how far they might take it
I always assumed the show was harmless having not watched it but now...good god. This show needs to be canceled and participants need to be issued a sincere apology for what they endured. This is not okay.
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Abbey: *looking at us*
Me: *looking back at her with the same expression, shaking my head*
Abbey: Yikes
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“Pretty EFFING messed up” spoken like a mom lol 🤣
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Wow, I've never seen the Revenge Body show. However, from the clips shared, as a counsellor, I am truly alarmed. I'm appreciating your videos and your common sense approach to food and health. Thank you for making them.
The fact that she tries to make them focus harder on their diet by “it’s just a few weeks” is only gonna keep them in a cycle of eating really “good” till they lose weight and then as soon as the “diet” is over they go back to “bad” eating and gain the weight back.
All of their children have quite a road ahead of them regarding their bodies and self love ... even ableism gets wrapped up in it. I didn’t realize how damaging watching my mother was FOR ME. It transfers, reflects. God bless them.
I know 🙁
Re: 14:30. I read something once about the correlation between obesity and childhood trauma - specifically to do with sexual assault. It was only a theory, but the researchers suggested that people who had been sexually abused used food as a coping mechanism and the weight gain was subconsciously used to make them feel safe because they believed they were sexually undesirable. It's heartbreaking and not talked about enough. And shows like this made by people who really just want to make money make me so angry.
Thank you for sharing this information
Roxane Gay talks about this in the memoir hunger
On my 600lb life with the women like 80% of the time they had those sorts of things happen to them when they were younger. So I definitely think abuse is a weight gain trigger for sure.
I think we must have read the same study. I wish this information was more widely known and talked about rather than assuming fault with the individual. I guess it sorta makes sense in that it's consistent, society victim blames those who experienced abuse, and we blame people for their weight.
This is only anecdotal, of course, but the majority of the people on My 600lb Life have some sort of trauma: abusive parent(s), sexual trauma (childhood and adult). They explicitly say that they have used food to cope with their issues; part of treatment is going into therapy to address the cause of the eating. Many of them also come from homes where food was used to show love or is a bond among siblings.
OMG. This is my life story for several years. I went trough two years of working with therapist to overcome my mentality to gain “revenge body”. On the journey while! I desperately wanted my “revenge body” I have gained the most weight of my entire life. This was the hardest time for me. And after two years I started to get better. Only started. Omg, this show EXACTLY INHUMANE.
Thank you for sharing your experience
Abbey I am new to your channel and content but I just have to say I think you are such a breathe of fresh air in a culture which is just bombarded with weight gain guilt and crazy fad diets that are neither healthy or sustainable. I appreciate your content is for entertainment and general education but its so great to be able to see a dietician take an honest, compassionate, evidence based approach to some really damaging tropes that are out there. THANK YOU! 🙌🙌
Being told so casually to forgive her abuser is so upsetting. As someone who was violently raped as a teenager, I am horrified that this happened and that it aired for other victims to hear. Saying that was also abuse and I’m sure traumatizing.
Oh my God that man was almost throwing up and his trainer was just watching him like throwing up is a normal thing:/ how the hell he has his graduate? :///
I know 🙁
Tbh that kind of mentality reminds me of the coaches from my days as a competitive gymnast and it’s toxic as fuck. I quit 4 years ago now and I still have trauma from those kinds of people. Watching that clip was really hard and I feel for him :(
@@ryuusu I'm sorry about that :( yeah this show really sucks. It literally doesn't have any good points neither mentally nor physically. Btw, what's the meaning of Tbh? 😅
@@farnooshyy5120 Tbh means to be honest
@@b3thamphetamine thanks
If sugar is the devil then I know where I’m going if I die 😂 🔥 who wants me to save them a seat? Lol
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Looool MEEEEE, currently eating ice cream!
Mind if I join you?
🤣🤣🤣 I respect sugar. I balance what I eat, but I love it!!
I honestly never understood the appeal of this type of show. A lot of what happens in there is just straight up abuse that gets branded as "tough love" to make it more acceptable to the viewers
For sure. Me too
The best revenge is NO revenge. It’s self love, surrounding your self with loving people & gratitude for all you have. The “revenge” comes when people see you happy & thriving from the inside shining out
For sure
As a clinical social worker, i would never tell someone they need to forgive their rapist. Forgiveness of your abuser is absolutely NOT necessarily working through trauma
your face at the end of the intro of Revenge Body made me laugh SO hard 😂
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I think the trainer talking about the liquid diet was talking about 400 calories per smoothie. She was gonna have 3 smoothies a day plus a “crunchy snack”. That’s 1200+ calories. Still not ideal for a person of that size, but better than 400 cal a day. That’s how I interpreted it, at least.
Omg Abbey, we’re only seeing snippets and I’m bawling my eyes out for these people. How do people watch this entire show?!
I know. It is quite concerning
Ooh girl we needed a trigger warning for that vomit scene.
I'm sorry if that was triggering for you, I'll make sure to put one next time
I really like these type of videos, they lead reflection over the psychology dangers of watching these triggering programs for some people. In another matter, I'd like to say that your videos have also helped me improve my English fluency, English is not my first language, and you use a ton of expressions that help build up and strengthen my vocabulary, sending you tons of love!
I'm so glad they have been helpful!
While I do find Keeping up with the Kardashians entertaining, that's the only show of theirs that I watch. I dont like the concept of the Revenge Body show and I don't agree with the message it promotes!!
Totally!
Same!
@@morganleighjones6355 idk why I find their lives so fascinating haha
I don’t support them anymore.
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this is just my personal experience with why you should never lose weight for someone else- growing up my mom used to always criticize and make jokes about my weight. i was tired of it so when i was 14 i decided to go on what i thought was a health journey. it looked like i was doing all the right things, i started exercising more and eating better.BUT the problem with weight loss for someone else is that the feeling becomes addictive- i got obsessed with other people being proud of me. after that, the weight loss never felt like enough because i was scared that my mom would be ashamed of me again if i did something as simple as eating a cookie. When my dad started telling me i didn’t eat enough and i needed to stop losing weight because i was making myself sick it felt like a compliment, like i was SO GOOD at weight loss that i’d achieved and far surpassed my goals. when my mom started saying that too it was just the most frustrating thing in the world because all i could think was “screw you this is what you wanted me to do” “i did this for you, because of you”
and yeah that’s kind of it. i’m almost 18 now and i’m technically in ana recovery but i relapse so often i’m not even sure you can call it that. my best advice is that if you’re making lifestyle choices, make sure your heart is in the right place
I saw the notification and I said: "Ooh this is gonna be good". And then I saw your reaction at the beginning and I DIED! 😂
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Getting "revenge" on somebody by doing exactly what your bullies told you to do (loose weight and whatever else you need to do, to be more "acceptable" for society) and getting bullied on TV if you don't get there fast enough? WTF? Am I missing something?!
And thank you for covering this and not backing down! When you unlearn all the diet culture stuff, shows like this are so twisted.
Glad it is helpful
As a survivours of csa you do not have to forgive your abuser to heal and be fulfilled and be happy.
Thank you for sharing your experience
Abbey Sharp: "It's a recipe for disaster!"
Me shouting at my phone screen: "Literally!"
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As a international model I LOVE your videos ! They have been helping me so much to find my own healthy balance with food. It’s crazy how brainwashed society is- we dictate ourselves how we should eat ... based on what? I think our bodies know US more than an ad or trend.
I love how you perfectly explained it . Thank you so much
When the nutritionist told the young woman to "forgive" her assailant, I literally yelled loudly enough to scare my cat!
Wow this show is unreal. I can’t believe this show is still running
I know 🙁
“Dumpster Fire Diet Shows” oh my god yes 😂
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As a future RD, this video makes me want to cry and scream. I feel so bad for these people they're trying to "help." The one woman is straight-up confessing and apologizing for eating refried beans and rice--literally two of the most amazing, nutrient-dense foods out there!! Not only is their information unscientific, but it truly is "inhumane" as you put it. Wow.
It infuriates me how they say "it will make your mind body and soul feel good to get a revenge body", then the producers and team treat the participants like numbers.
Agreed!
omg i love you thanks for being so informative and sincere!
The best revenge is living a happy life and not thinking about revenge anymore.
I feel bad for all the Kardashians. They grew up in this toxic bubble and all the money can't buy happiness and self love.
💥💥💥IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE , TURN IT UP 💥💥💥
Btw I love how neither khloe nor her super duper Hollywood doctors seem to think about the fact that people lose weight at a different speed and in different ways
I know 🙁
Can we also just talk about how it's absolutely possible to move forward and heal and thrive WITHOUT forgiving your abuser? You do not have to forgive, you do not have to forget. And you can still heal. This 'forgive and forget' idea was built for people with an obsession with getting even with those who've wronged them in superficial ways that don't actually affect their life, not for those who were harmed in such a cruel way that creates deep psychological trauma that affects their day-to-day life. It's insensitive and counterproductive.
Thanks for reviewing this show! That clip of Chloe talking to the lady saying she was going to drop her, wow just wow 😳 that hurt me hearing her say that. Smh
I know, it is concerning. Glad the review was helpful
As a fellow woman who has been assaulted: you do not ever have to forgive the person that violated you and your human right to keep your body as a safe space that is only for you to decide how to be touched and held. Ever. I have forgiven the person that assaulted me in many many ways but that is something I will never forgive him.
I was on this show 💁🏻♀️ I am not in any of the clips here but Harley was my trainer. you’re not wrong about much of what you’ve said here, but ALOT of the editing that goes into this show manipulates what actually happened to look a certain way. Just remember it’s reality tv 🙃 if you want to know more about the experience in depth and then critique it I’m happy to answer questions!
Cool. Was Khloe nice in person?
Cool I wonder if you would let Abbey interview you about the show?
I absolutely loathe the concept of a revenge body. The concept is wrong on so many levels.
I know 🙁
The ad I got for this video was Khloe promoting a "Fit track scale"
Abbey, I love your videos. You are so good at phrasing what I am thinking - I am just in front of my screen, nodding, being like "yes", "yep", "exactly". I really enjoy how you back up your opinions with scientific proof. In addition, I am learning new things. Thanks so much for this content!
It blows my mind that anyone would take the advice of Khloe Kardashian in the first place
Abbey's right hair strands look like 20 like the year :)) how the hell
Fuck I can't unsee it now
It won't go away T.T
Yes I was looking for this comment!
You should review an episode of “eat yourself sexy”! It’s dramatized of course but it focuses more on eating whole foods and such and I’d be interested in seeing you review it 🧐
As an exercise scientist and menstrual cycle educator I am legit worried about how this type of exercise (and nutrition) is impacting these women’s hormones. This type of diet and exercise can lead to a loss of period really quick which presents a host of problems.
Thankyou for shedding light on this! I honestly can't believe the show was allowed on air, if I was to see this show in my most vulnerable mindset it would have been so damaging. This is the type of show I would hope my younger sister, family and friends are never exposed to because the messages are so toxic. Love your channel and thankyou for providing such great information xx
I'm so glad it is helpful
Can I just say thank you so so much for this video- and all of them actually! It makes me want to cry.
As someone who really struggles with a healthy relationship with food because of past diets, and has really benefited from your commentary, I really really appreciate It! I have been yo-yoing in weight for so long, so the fact that you educate us on how some foods fill an emotional need, and that’s okay, has changed me. Because I don’t restrict, I now understand more about what my body craves more than ever, and I’m definitely heading in a good direction. I never thought I’d get to a point where I looked at a container of ice cream, and passed on It because I really didn’t feel like any. And I never thought I could ever eat a piece of candy again, without extreme guilt and disgust. So thank you so much for your content. Even though these shows promote so much bad, watching you explain things actually helps makes your points more clear to me.
Love ya!!! 💕
Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm so glad it is helpful ❤️