Probably this is the part that anyone that owns a workshop avoids the most , that is organizing a wall ful of tools and shelves piled with scraps pieces of wood or metals , but once it's done you don't want to leave the workshop and your appetite for making things suddenly increases , fantastic wall , johnny.
Favorite parts of this video: brad nails to hold the parts together and trimming the panel to fit the remaining space gave the cleats for the hangers. Brilliant!
I always like french cleats. Back when I had shop space in the garage, I made sure to put in french cleats to hold all my tools. I love how easily I could move racks around when I needed to
Came out looking good I'm a firm believer in putting up full sheets of plywood as wall board as it makes it so easy and strong to hang things on in any Place you want
French cleats work great in our shop too. We spaced the wall cleats a foot apart because we are hanging larger cabinet-shelf style pieces. So convenient to move things around if need be.
I remember when Wranglerstar posted this project. I made one for my home bar the next day and it's held up really well and being able to adjust for individual tall bottles has been a godsend.
You convinced me and to join will be a good way to learn from the Master! Do You always talk so fast, probably but You get things done with style and confidence too, You are the best!
I am planning on finishing out a cabin shortly. I was thinking about using this French cleat system for kitchen and work spaces. Want to go with a log cabin sort of feel to it. French cleats, not just for workshops anymore. 😉😄
Great Video JB! You’ve inspired me to get off my duff and get goin’ on MY French Cleat System! Got the plywood, just needed the boost! Have A Super Week!.....Gus
I noticed that you use Czech chisels Narex. I also use them because I live a few kilometers from the factory here in the Czech Republic and I can say that they are some of the best. By the way nice video, just keep going.
Put me in the "I hate pegboard" croup as well. Watching through again. I'm in the last stages of organizing a new shop, round #1 and looking to learn something new. It's going to be an ongoing effort and never truly finished. With the quality of plywood I've gotten in the past 3 years (2019-2022) I would not trust glue to hold the cleats onto the 1/2" ply. Particularly suspect is the imported birch veneered ply. The veneer is so starved for glue that I've had large pieces of the veneer peel off. I drilled with countersink bits and screwed through the cleats and backer and into the studs. I used Torx drive Spax screws with the yellow finish so at a glance they look like brass.
What's up with the parallel clamp bars? Looks like they've bit hit all over the place with a finder but could just be my tablets crappy screen. Looks awesome though!
How many cups of coffee did you drink dude? The rapid speak has my head spinning! LOL... In all seriousness, great organizing system build here. The clamp holder rack is a thing of beauty for sure. I am about to install 7" shiplap boards for the walls in my basement workshop in horizontal & you have given me some great ideas on a cost effective way to store my ever increasing inventory of clamps. ( Can never have enough clamps...! ) Thanks, Bill on the Hill... :-)
Nice system. I just hung a 4'x4' system behind ny bench. Now for the tools holds. at 9:03 what is that counter sink you are using? You are making the Bessey holder. Also, the wall cleats are just glue and brads. Will that hold around 12 Bessey clamps?
Looks awesome great job. Well now that you have that you don't need the peg board hooks anymore you can send them to me so I can finish my organization on the peg board. Wish I could make these cleats like yours again looks very awesome.
Any idea on the max weight it can support per cleat? Do you think this system is strong enough to use as display shelf with shelves extended about 10” from wall? I am thinking a 36” width x 10” deep shelf. The Items I plan to put on shelves are books, plants and other decorative items. I will put a stopper on top of each cleat (or holder) to secure the holder to prevent accidental lifting. I don’t need to move the holder frequently.
Crafted Workshop Great. Thanks. I gave a little more thought to this. I think due to the fact that the French cleat system cuts at 45 degree angle. It does not have much surface area contact for support. It is probably not meant for holding heavy items since It will put too much stress on both the holder and the part that is on the wall. I have come up with some other ideas. Instead of 45 degree cut on a single board. I can use two boards to create a U shape cleat that is 3-4” deep to give it more surface area contact. The only drawback is it will need more clearance on top of the cleat so I can slide the holder down.
I can't help hearing and subconsciously counting the number of times the narrator says variations of "I went ahead and-", and now you'll go ahead and hear it too. You're welcome! :D
I'm a sucker for shop projects. I love using french cleats in my shop. How do you like having the actual french cleat wall? I use french cleats all over my shop but I just add and remove them all over the place.
2 things to ask. Why would you only use glue for the wall cleats, but use glue and screws on the hanging stuff? I don't see the link for the headphones in the description.
My thought as well. I've seen a few of these cleat system videos on YT and the few that I've seen are all doing it this way. Aesthetics, I guess. Don't want screws showing, even though they will elsewhere unless a cleat covers them?
I had the same question, regarding the wall cleats. The collective weight on an individual cleat will be much greater than the weight carried by a single tool holder, yet all the screws are in the tool holders. The logic is backwards, to me.
Hey, what is your preference between bar clamps and pipe clamps? Everything I've seen on bar clamps says you need to slide a piece of wood into them to make them stronger because the pressure causes them to twist.
None whatsoever. I've had heavy clamps hanging from these panels for years now with no sagging. Wood glue is stronger than the wood itself, the brad nails are really just for clamping while the glue dries.
great video bro! what i did when cuttin mine was similar. Cut my plywood oversize of twice the width of 2 cleats. Here is where math comes in.... double width will leave you short duw to the blade being at a 45 instead of at a 90, so, in order for both pieces to just get cut in half, you must remember to add in the calc for half of the thickness of material. For instand a 2" cleat, out of 3/4" material, you need to measure 2" for your cleat, PLUS, 3/8 (half of thickness of the material). now, remember this is x 2 cuz you are ripping this plank down to make 2 identical pieces right? so, 2-3/8+2-3/8= 4-3/4. Rip down the center, bam, 2 pieces identical (dont forget tgo add saw curf but blades vary... approx 1/8" average blades.... so actually piece needs to be 4-7/8". Hope that isnt too much math. if it makes sense, it will save you hours of extra ripping!
@@rider660r sounds like another know it all ... wonderful. If you have actually made cleats that thin you would know why the ones who know dont do it. If they are that thin they are weaker(less glue surface) and you will need to support the bottom of all hangers but if they are wide then smaller hangers need no bottom kickout or support. Maybe douche less and actually learn by making something.
Great work Johnny! Quick question, if you have dry wall in your shop can you attach the cleat directly into the studs? Or is there a huge advantage for using a sheet of ply wood for the backing. Always wondered that
The plywood in this case is more aesthetically pleasing than the cinder black wall. Hang straight to the studs behind the sheetrock and you'll be fine. Dont rely on the drywall to support, though.....use the studs.
Do you think 1/2" Baltic Birch would be sufficient for a French Cleat wall? I would like the low profile and wanted your opinion on if it would be secure enough. I currently have a chisel rack on a 1/2" cleat and it's holding 8 chisels.
Great project for the new year! Thanks, Johnny!
Thanks y'all!
Probably this is the part that anyone that owns a workshop avoids the most , that is organizing a wall ful of tools and shelves piled with scraps pieces of wood or metals , but once it's done you don't want to leave the workshop and your appetite for making things suddenly increases , fantastic wall , johnny.
Yup, it's super rewarding! My lumber area is next on the list.
Favorite parts of this video: brad nails to hold the parts together and trimming the panel to fit the remaining space gave the cleats for the hangers. Brilliant!
Yea those little offcuts worked out so well! Thanks!
I always like french cleats. Back when I had shop space in the garage, I made sure to put in french cleats to hold all my tools. I love how easily I could move racks around when I needed to
Thanks Donovan! It's nice to be able to easily reorganize when needed.
French cleats just makes it look more like a woodshop than peg-boards do! Beautiful!
Thanks man!
Came out looking good I'm a firm believer in putting up full sheets of plywood as wall board as it makes it so easy and strong to hang things on in any Place you want
For sure, thanks Craig!
French cleats work great in our shop too. We spaced the wall cleats a foot apart because we are hanging larger cabinet-shelf style pieces. So convenient to move things around if need be.
For sure, love it!
I remember when Wranglerstar posted this project. I made one for my home bar the next day and it's held up really well and being able to adjust for individual tall bottles has been a godsend.
Nice! French cleats are definitely popular here on RUclips!
I like this style where you talk to the camera more /b-roll more than the regular voice over, looks great!
Thanks man, glad you like it!
I love french cleats and more so that you showed what you screwed up on (chisels). Love the channel, keep up the good work.
Thanks a lot Andrew!
You are right!! The wall looks way better than peg board!! Nice looking shirt by the way. 👍
Thanks Jake!
Very nice. I’m looking to putting up French cleats for my tools.
I’m building a shop right now and these videos have been so helpful. 👍👍
Wow. That looks so much better than peg board. Now I am definitely putting this on my to do list.
Looks so much better than the pegboard. Great video!
Thanks Mike!
This video is fabulous! Thank you for the incentive.👏🌞
The wall looks great. I'd suggest using that as your backdrop all the time. Really does look nice.
Thanks, I definitely will be from now on!
Great design. These are perfect for art studios as well.
Looks great, love the way you don’t hide your mistakes 👍
Very nicely done! Love the neatness of French cleats. ...And thanks for narrating and explaining everything so well.
Thanks a lot!
That twice ad wide method is good thinking. Frank knows what's up.
Yup, it’s worked great for me.
amazing workmanship!!! you've convinced me to add to one wall in my workshop. great tutorial.
I just bought iso tunes noise cancelling headphones and they are great. the charge lasts more than 8 hours and when your phone rings you can hear it.
So clean! Love the way it looks, and good job keeping a little room for clamp growth.
Thanks Bruce! Always gotta save space for more clamps!
WOW!!! Great Job!! LOL That looks like a lot of work!!! Would love to have one of those walls!
Dude. This looks incredible!
Thanks Brent! I'm loving it.
Your way of making French clear holder is very clever. I saw some other videos with cleats span entire length of the holder.
Thanks! It really worked out well. I’m going to be doing another video on making more French cleat accessories here soon.
Man that turned out so sweet! I just got a bunch of peg board for free, and your vid makes me want to junk it and do this!
Hah, thanks!
Real AWESOME job on the french cleat wall ! Definitely will be in the plans as I build out my shop after our move in a few months.
Thanks Stanley!
Much better then peg board. Looks great!
Thanks Tom!
Very cool. Excellent organization.
Thanks!
Looks great! Much nicer than peg board!
Thanks!
Looks awesome! think you got a double dose of the "organizing" gene! it's going to make a beautiful backdrop on your videos.
Hah, I think so! Thanks mama.
This is a really cool and great looking way to store tools! It would be a great addition to my shop!
Thanks AJ!
Really like the tool wall looks great but serves a purpose Awesome job Johnny.
Thanks Thom!
You convinced me and to join will be a good way to learn from the Master! Do You always talk so fast, probably but You get things done with style and confidence too, You are the best!
Just moving into my new shop - I think I will be using this strategy! Thanks for sharing!
I am planning on finishing out a cabin shortly. I was thinking about using this French cleat system for kitchen and work spaces. Want to go with a log cabin sort of feel to it. French cleats, not just for workshops anymore. 😉😄
For sure! Frank Howarth did something similar in his kitchen.
Cool! Does he have a video of it on YT? I'm looking. 😉
ruclips.net/video/QYbexqIH4IY/видео.html
Great Video JB! You’ve inspired me to get off my duff and get goin’ on MY French Cleat System! Got the plywood, just needed the boost! Have A Super Week!.....Gus
Nice, glad I could be of assistance! Good luck Gus!
Thanks
Good and professional work
Thanks!
Lefties for life!
Definitely looks better! Something I need to do in my workshop as well. 👍🏻
Thanks!
I noticed that you use Czech chisels Narex. I also use them because I live a few kilometers from the factory here in the Czech Republic and I can say that they are some of the best. By the way nice video, just keep going.
Put me in the "I hate pegboard" croup as well. Watching through again. I'm in the last stages of organizing a new shop, round #1 and looking to learn something new. It's going to be an ongoing effort and never truly finished. With the quality of plywood I've gotten in the past 3 years (2019-2022) I would not trust glue to hold the cleats onto the 1/2" ply. Particularly suspect is the imported birch veneered ply. The veneer is so starved for glue that I've had large pieces of the veneer peel off. I drilled with countersink bits and screwed through the cleats and backer and into the studs. I used Torx drive Spax screws with the yellow finish so at a glance they look like brass.
I liked the pace of the video.
Thanks!
What's up with the parallel clamp bars? Looks like they've bit hit all over the place with a finder but could just be my tablets crappy screen. Looks awesome though!
Nice Work 👍
Love the wall I think I will be doing something similar to this in my shop now
Nice, have fun Jim!
Looks fantatsic! Great job, boss.
Thanks AJ!
How many cups of coffee did you drink dude? The rapid speak has my head spinning! LOL... In all seriousness, great organizing system build here. The clamp holder rack is a thing of beauty for sure. I am about to install 7" shiplap boards for the walls in my basement workshop in horizontal & you have given me some great ideas on a cost effective way to store my ever increasing inventory of clamps. ( Can never have enough clamps...! )
Thanks,
Bill on the Hill... :-)
Nice system. I just hung a 4'x4' system behind ny bench. Now for the tools holds.
at 9:03 what is that counter sink you are using? You are making the Bessey holder.
Also, the wall cleats are just glue and brads. Will that hold around 12 Bessey clamps?
Looks good man!
Thanks a lot!
Looks awesome great job. Well now that you have that you don't need the peg board hooks anymore you can send them to me so I can finish my organization on the peg board. Wish I could make these cleats like yours again looks very awesome.
Thanks James!
Any idea on the max weight it can support per cleat? Do you think this system is strong enough to use as display shelf with shelves extended about 10” from wall? I am thinking a 36” width x 10” deep shelf. The Items I plan to put on shelves are books, plants and other decorative items. I will put a stopper on top of each cleat (or holder) to secure the holder to prevent accidental lifting. I don’t need to move the holder frequently.
I’m not sure how well it would work cantilevered like that. I’d do some testing!
Crafted Workshop Great. Thanks.
I gave a little more thought to this. I think due to the fact that the French cleat system cuts at 45 degree angle. It does not have much surface area contact for support. It is probably not meant for holding heavy items since It will put too much stress on both the holder and the part that is on the wall.
I have come up with some other ideas. Instead of 45 degree cut on a single board. I can use two boards to create a U shape cleat that is 3-4” deep to give it more surface area contact. The only drawback is it will need more clearance on top of the cleat so I can slide the holder down.
Votre cleats à la française c'est très bon. Merci!
Nice job man.
Always doing a good job ! Congratulations guy !!
Thanks man!
Still on the Hi-Wire train. Love it. Its nice to see the Hedgehog as well.
Thanks, they make some great beer! And yea, the Hedgehog works great.
Looks good im gona try this one for sure.
Thanks, good luck!
What is the miterstation "outfeed" system you are using? Looks like some aluminum extrusion the stop block slides on.
Thanks
It's the Fastcap Best Fence system with their Bench Mount add-ons. Works great!
Great video, thanks for the extra explaining. Nice job
Nicest French cleat wall I've seen.
Thanks Jimmy!
Wow. Just wow.
Thanks Will!
Damn it! I just put up pegboard last fall.........down it comes!
Hah, good luck!
Thanks for this video! I’m always looking for ways to organize and the French cleat looks like the way to go!
Thanks, I LOVE this wall, it's added so much organization to my shop.
5:54 It's seems like everyone is using the Grr-ripper! Work safe, work smart!
I can't help hearing and subconsciously counting the number of times the narrator says variations of "I went ahead and-", and now you'll go ahead and hear it too. You're welcome! :D
I'm a sucker for shop projects. I love using french cleats in my shop. How do you like having the actual french cleat wall? I use french cleats all over my shop but I just add and remove them all over the place.
Thanks Angie! I'm love the wall, honestly I think it just looks awesome, hah.
If I'm making a french cleat wall directly against a finished drywall in the garage, is there any benefit to the plywood paneling behind?
Thanks for the shoutout! Not a big fan of french cleats but looks solid!
Thanks Andy! I'm digging them so far, super versatile.
Looks great! Now a couple of coats of wipe on poly or some other finish and you're set.
I don’t really think it needs it. Most of my shop furniture is unfinished and I haven’t noticed any additional wear.
Awesome! That helped me a lot! Great content!
Dude, you're awesome
Would you have considered putting a coat of polyurethane varnish in the back board to make it easier to clean and prevent sawdust from sticking?
French cleats, ooh la la! Looks great!
Thanks!
the "quasi studs" are called furring strips
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You are a clever man so I learned from you many ideas
What was the bit you re using to counter sink your screws? Great video by the way!!
Does the thickness of the backing wood matter? Could I use 1/4 or would that not work?
2 things to ask.
Why would you only use glue for the wall cleats, but use glue and screws on the hanging stuff?
I don't see the link for the headphones in the description.
My thought as well. I've seen a few of these cleat system videos on YT and the few that I've seen are all doing it this way. Aesthetics, I guess. Don't want screws showing, even though they will elsewhere unless a cleat covers them?
I had the same question, regarding the wall cleats. The collective weight on an individual cleat will be much greater than the weight carried by a single tool holder, yet all the screws are in the tool holders. The logic is backwards, to me.
festool chop saw? Daaaaaaamn boy! Send some money my way bro, you obviously have too much! LOL
i have a small space, could i just use the Tapcons with washers to secure the sheets to the wall?
you mention the new headphones you use now but I can't see a link for them
The French Cleat wall looks awesome Johnny! 👊 Nice job on the video as well! 👍
Thanks Fred!
I like, good job.
Thanks!
Hey, what is your preference between bar clamps and pipe clamps? Everything I've seen on bar clamps says you need to slide a piece of wood into them to make them stronger because the pressure causes them to twist.
Parallel bar clamps are by far my favorite. Incredibly powerful.
That is a great idea
Thanks!
Great video. Thank you for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
I'm a little dubious about attaching the wall cleats with glue and brad nails only. Any issues with the heavier objects?
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None whatsoever. I've had heavy clamps hanging from these panels for years now with no sagging. Wood glue is stronger than the wood itself, the brad nails are really just for clamping while the glue dries.
Thanks for your reply just thinking about making a french cleat wall and removing some pegboard as well. Once warmer weather visits.
@@craftedworkshop
I'd really like to do something like this, but don't have a table saw. Do you think this could be done with just a circular saw?
You could but it might be a little tricky. Got any friends with a table saw, or maybe a local Makerspace?
Do you have any ideas for a air compressor on the cleat wall?
Will you sell your wall attachments? How much?
great video bro! what i did when cuttin mine was similar. Cut my plywood oversize of twice the width of 2 cleats. Here is where math comes in.... double width will leave you short duw to the blade being at a 45 instead of at a 90, so, in order for both pieces to just get cut in half, you must remember to add in the calc for half of the thickness of material. For instand a 2" cleat, out of 3/4" material, you need to measure 2" for your cleat, PLUS, 3/8 (half of thickness of the material). now, remember this is x 2 cuz you are ripping this plank down to make 2 identical pieces right? so, 2-3/8+2-3/8= 4-3/4. Rip down the center, bam, 2 pieces identical (dont forget tgo add saw curf but blades vary... approx 1/8" average blades.... so actually piece needs to be 4-7/8". Hope that isnt too much math. if it makes sense, it will save you hours of extra ripping!
Just glue and brad nails will hold the weight of everything you hang? Looking to do this for yard/garden equipment.
For sure! Wood glue is stronger than the wood itself.
@@rider660r sounds like another know it all ... wonderful. If you have actually made cleats that thin you would know why the ones who know dont do it. If they are that thin they are weaker(less glue surface) and you will need to support the bottom of all hangers but if they are wide then smaller hangers need no bottom kickout or support. Maybe douche less and actually learn by making something.
Great work Johnny! Quick question, if you have dry wall in your shop can you attach the cleat directly into the studs? Or is there a huge advantage for using a sheet of ply wood for the backing. Always wondered that
You could definitely just attach it directly!
The plywood in this case is more aesthetically pleasing than the cinder black wall. Hang straight to the studs behind the sheetrock and you'll be fine. Dont rely on the drywall to support, though.....use the studs.
How did you ensure the 5" strips were centered when cutting the cleate at 45 degrees?
looks amazing!
Thanks Kate!
Do you think 1/2" Baltic Birch would be sufficient for a French Cleat wall? I would like the low profile and wanted your opinion on if it would be secure enough. I currently have a chisel rack on a 1/2" cleat and it's holding 8 chisels.
Yea I think it’d be fine!
Great French Cleat video and finished results. I was wondering if I could use a bunch of red oak pre-finished flooring for the cleat project?
Thanks, and sure, that should work fine!