I'd believe, cause fairytales are the essential folk of magic. If vampires and warewolves exist (which I dont know why voldy didnt approach a vampire for immortality) then so can others.... I wonder if fae's are most powerful, since any story that has magic in it, mentions faes as the origin of magic
I thought the Phoenix reborn after bursting into flames would be leading to a morbid theory of how Floo Powder works. It burns the original person to death while simultaneously recreating the same person in the destination they are going to.
Or they just constantly burn a caged phoenix alive, therefore killing it, or at least burning its feathers, and collecting the ashes. And since the phoenix can't really die.....wow.
When reading about Harry's experience, it talks about sliding around through the flu and not missing your exit. Sadly, doesn't sound very much like the popular concept of teleportation.
For the record, the true purpose of "can't apparate without a license" is likely to have the fines cover the cost of the healers that need to fix idiots who don't know how to and splynch themselves
@@thesilverprincess ...but then that means that Harry also hallucinations her, meaning that he went from sleeping under a staircase to having an imaginary girlfriend, who he upgraded to an imaginary wife...and all of his children are also hallucinations. ...at that point you might as well say that the last chapter of the last book is Harry wearing a straight jacket inside a padded room in the mental hospital. His entire time at Hogwarts was just a delusion. ...oh Harry went to a boarding school, just a non-magical one, and Hermione, Ron, and all of their family members were just figments of Harry's imagination. Harry's aunt and uncle really did mean it when they said that the boy wasn't well. It seems that Harry was teased, picked on, and abused by both his family at home, as well as the other students at school...so much so that he locked himself away inside his own imagination.
It's quite likely that Dumbledore arranged for the fireplace in the Gryffindor Common Room to be connected to the Floo Network after book 3 so that Sirius could communicate to Harry. That way he couldn't just use it to get in during book 3 but he can use it in later books.
@@jjbarajas5341 Dumbledore knew Sirius was innocent at the end of book 3, after which he could have arranged the connection, hence the connection didn't exist when Dumbledore didn't know Sirius was innocent.
I think it also makes sense that it can be connected only for calling and not for jumping through. Wasn't the transporting to and from Hogwarts they mentioned specifically to be connected just for the a short time over the holidays?
@@emilycurtis4398 Yeah. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the Black family that figured out the function as well. Which would make sense since Sirius is the first to do in the series.
House elves have their own powerful magic, they can apparate in and out of Hogwarts, which makes me think if one were to take the Phoenix feather theory in a grimmer direction some elven component might also be an ingredient to the Floo powder.
"why does the price change on anything ever, scarcity" well i mean if you control the whole supply scarcity is kinda dictated by you after a certain point, so demand is the biggest thing here: guess 2 sickles is just what they've determined they can charge before people go for other magical transportation methods.
That actually makes more sense. After all, while the number of phoenixes is constant, the wizard population isn't. That, alone, should affect demand and price. I can see it being low in Harry's time since a lot of people in their prime died young in the previous generation, which reduced the birth rate.
Right. The demand is mitigated by other forms of transportation available. If floo powder becomes more expensive, people with fly on brooms or apparate or use portkeys or the knight bus or ride thestrals or hippogryphs or flying motorcycles or flying cars or whatever. And floo powder is limited by only allowing transportation from one fireplace to another. If you want to go somewhere without a fireplace, you have to use something else.
It's an agreement with the phoenix breeding Guild. (They have to be bred to regenerate more often than usual.) And it can't be broken or renegotiated, because magic.
It's probably some kind of government regulation that they can't charge more than 2 sickles. It's probably considered an essential commodity so the government wants to keep the price down.
Why wouldn't it? People really don't understand magic. It's doesn't mean anything can do anything. Obviously. That's why their are various spells, and ingridients in potions, and artefacts to do certain things.
Interesting point this raises: if Ollivander’s has been using the same phoenix for all this time, doesn’t that mean that a 3rd for the wands in Britain share the same core and are brothers?
Not a third, it is said that phoenix feathers are the rarest wand core, so there would be less phoenix wands than other types. But all of the ones that do exist would in fact be brothers if they used the same phoenix.
Phoenix wands are supposed to be very picky in choosing the wizard, so there probably isn't many of them in circulation. Plus the unique effect of twin wands not working properly only applies if the wands cast spells simultaneously against each other. This could also mean that many wands of other cores also have brothers.
I wonder if the feathers have to be from the same incarnation to be "brothers." That would significantly cut down on the matches as well. I. E., if your core feather if from the phoenix's 1,745th lifetime, and your opponent's core feather came from the same phoenix but 3 regenerations later in the 1,748th 'life', maybe they wouldn't match up. I was always confused about the twin core thing anyway, as being rare... how many hairs are in a single unicorn tail? Half of Hogwarts could have matching cores!
I think that it goes beyond just the cores. The only known instances of the Twin cores phenomenon Harry/Voldemort in the Graveyard duel and the Boot brothers in their fight against Gormlaith. In both cases the concerned parties have extremely close ties, The Boots are brothers fighting alongside each other so their wands magnified each other. Whereas Harry and Voldemort by that time share Lilly's protective charm and part of Voldemort's soul. They were fighting against each other so their wands did likewise.
@@leefontaine2934 I mean, a unicorn can certainly donate more than one hair from its tail. If you're gonna sneak up on the thing and risk being gored, might as well grab a bunch.
yeah, kinda wish they had separate channels for the other content, so I could have notifications for Harry Potter and watch the other stuff when I feel like it
Okay, here's the thing: if it was Phoenix ash, they wouldn't need to keep that fact secret. Having your own Phoenix is really rare, and there's probably some alchemical weirdness that has to happen , which their infrastructure would allow them to make most cheaply. I think that the key is how fast the fire consumes the user. The fire doesn't hurt the user, which to me indicates some protective or healing magic. Easy enough, if you have a phoenix, you have their tears. Treat the ashes with the tears and some complex spells to enhance the particular effects of those ingredients, and you're good - except you just have inter ash at this point. You ever try to light ashes on fire? It's not easy. They need to add an ingredient that can burn, instantly, in any condition. This is the big secret. And this is why the flames are green, when phoenix flames are orange. They aren't hiding the ingredient just from competition. They're hiding it from the law - specifically from the Misuse of Muggle Artefacts Office. They're using muggle-made firestarters! That's how the flame pops up so fast, why it's green, where most of the sheer mass of the powder comes from *and* why Arthur was able to get the Dursleys house hooked up to the network! Think of it - Arthur looks and seems like a spineless simpleton, but he readily stands up to bullies like the Malfoys and he's definitely a lot smarter than he seems. Doubtless he would have found out about firestarters and wondered about them. Maybe he lit one, maybe with some of the plastic packaging still on it, and saw the various colors of flame? Maybe he put two and two together? Maybe he happened to know of some aspects of magic that would enhance the effectiveness of muggle chemical products, through some of his investigations? Maybe he showed up at the Floo Network Authority's office and asked to speak to their liason to Floo-Pow. Maybe he confronted them with this evidence. Maybe he said something like, "now, I'd hate for this kind of thing to get out - it'd throw half of the magical world into chaos! But I have personal responsibilities, you know. And if you could help those along, I could much more easily keep this quiet. You know, for the good of the magical world."
what about it also needs Malificent tears or sweat or blood and she is held in a secret dungeon, and the extra secret ingredient to make the fire green. Or Malificent is actualy still making the powder herself with her own blood/sweat/tears. thats why nobody can recreate it
J, Ollivander didn't just make two, there was a small instance in Philosopher's Stone where he gives a maple and phoenix feather wand for Harry to try out. Ollivander only sold two because only two people were compatible to a phoenix feather wand.
Here's a subject for one of your videos: Taboo, why doesn't the ministry set a taboo on the unforgivable curses? Aurors would be able to catch anyone attempting to use it if they say it out loud.
That's a really good question! But I believe the answer could be something along the lines of you can't set taboos on spells as they are not technically words, but magical commands (as you can do the spell without saying anything too). Then again, they could have certainly set a taboo on words like the Dark Lord, that would have busted all death eaters pretty fast...
I like the idea that the Taboo is not magic that many people are able to do, it was certainly presented as something very impressive that Voldemort had achieved. I think it was more an example of how powerful and skilled a wizard Voldemort was, that he set a Taboo on his name, and wasn’t something the ministry would’ve even been able to do
@@macattackk I agree here, especially after considering Fred and George's declaration that most members of the ministry weren't even capable of a proper Shield Charm. Voldy is definitely a cut above the average wizard, being able to do things like jinx the CONCEPT of Defense Against the Dark Arts (and Halloween as well, if we're assuming a different Carlin Brothers theory to be accurate :P). I sincerely doubt there's an actual spell to accomplish this, and that it was more just raw desire mixed with his immense magical talent.
@@riluna3695 yeh, I think the taboo was an incredibly complicated piece of magic to perform. And it doesn’t just alert him to their presence but actually provides all his death eaters with the culprits precise location and also breaks any magical enchantments and protections in their local area. An incredible magical feat by Voldemort really. As far as the ministry being inept I imagine Fred and George were just referring to the average employer who works in desk duty, I feel like the wizards who work in magical law enforcement on active duty would’ve been highly proficient, but again I doubt anyone else of the time besides Voldemort (and possibly Dumbledore) would’ve realistically been capable of performing such a magical feat. At least that’s how I read into it
I think it was an original piece of magic. The ministry couldnt do it because it hadn't been invented yet. Not to mention bureaucracy and ineptitude would prevent them from coming up with the idea themselves. We all know how much institutions hate new ideas. Galileo probably knows best though. Edit: and for more recent examples, MLK, JFK, and Bernie Sanders.
Reminds me of the Japanese light novel/manga Lazy Dungeon Master. He gets his hands on a phoenix egg, and learns that phoenix eggshell has great refractory/fire resistance abilities. He immediately sets a golem to constantly throw the egg against a wall.
I sing the 'More Theorys!'-Dance; na na; i dance the 'More Theorys'-Song! Na na. People wonder. Na na. They wonder how i dance a song; they wonder how i sing a Dance.
Definitely, otherwise I feel like there would be a moment in the series where somebody attempts this My assumption is that it's a single/several very common ingredients combined with the Phoenix ashes, so the price still doesn't change Maybe some form of plant due to the green colour? Or an ingredient that responds to the voice of a wizard
It would also explain why they don't run out of stock. If Floo Powder only contains, say, 5 grams of phoenix ashes per kilo, they should have plenty enough
Draco didn't use the floor network because the mystery was heavily monitoring it by then, meaning the sudden arrival of deatheaters at Hogwarts would've been tracked and treated with suspicion.
now this is a topic I had never even considered! another idea : IS the sword of Gryffindor his wand/could be used as his wand? (much like maybe hagrid's wand in the umberella or like olivander says, you could channel your magic through almost any object )
@@lauracrabb7169 but it would still be the wand he uses then.. not another magical object? their point was if gryffindor used the sword. but the sword isnt a wand.
Sirius is probably allowed to use the floo network in Hogwarts by Dumbledore, since they're both members of the Order. Would make since that Dumbledore is using Harry's most trusted source to pass on important information. Again, regardless of whether he's the "Most dangerous wizard alive as of the 4th book, his true intentions are already established and is likely valued highly by Dumbledore and permitted on the grounds even if it's just brief.
@@SuperCarlinBrothers I sing the 'More Theorys!'-Dance; na na; i dance the 'More Theorys'-Song! Na na. People wonder. Na na. They wonder how i dance a song; they wonder how i sing a Dance. Na na. Na na.
@@SuperCarlinBrothers I sing the 'More Theorys!'-Dance; na na; i dance the 'More Theorys'-Song! Na na. People wonder. Na na. They wonder how i dance a song; they wonder how i sing a Dance. Na na. Na na.
I think after reading The Sorcerer's Stone again I remember Ollivander having a different phoenix feather wand that Harry actually tries before the wand he actually ends up with.
I feel terrible for saying this, but my mind went to a dark place. They could just kill the thr Phoenix over and over to keep the ashes flowing. I'll see myself out...
The Phoenix could just leave if that was the case however. They can, for lack of a better word, teleport with no known restrictions, and thus, cages or other forms of entrapment wouldn’t have an effect.
@@Ninjamanhammer if magic could contain them, magic can keep them out. and if thats the case, it should work on the floo network as well. but as pointed out in the video, for some reason the floo network was never disabled for hogwarts, almost like they COULDNT block it. which means they also probably cant block a phoenix.
@@PirkotheDragon But it was disabled. Hogwarts was connected to the flu network only for transport during holidays, you couldn't just come or leave whenever you wanted to.
I am so glad he mentioned the extract of how Dumbledore left Hogwarts because I was convinced that Dumbledore had just walked out and the Phoenix was just a movie adaptation...
Has that whole 'travel by phoenix' thing ever happened to anyone except Dumbledore? Because Dumbledore can apperate in Hogwarts, I always figured thats what he did in book 5, just with "style". I dunno, if that's a thing Fawkes could always do, it would have been much easier to get out of the chamber of secrets that way...
@@julieaime4594 Dumbledore could remove the Anti-Apparition Charms - he did so so students could practice apparating in the Great Hall. When going to find the Horcrux, it was too convoluted and dangerous to have him and Harry have to return from Hogsmeade - he didn't know what condition they'd be in. He opened up an apparition window atop the Astronomy Tower as it was still in Hogwarts but was the most remote point, so if someone where to try to enter by apparition they wouldn't think to apparate to up there.
Dumbledore needed to remove the Anti-Apparition Charms in order to apparate within Hogwarts. Fawkes, using phoenix magic rather than wizard magic, could apparate inside Hogwarts so Dumbledore used his ability to do so to escape (not that he was in danger, of course). That is an ability of the phoenix: "Like the diricawl (see above), the phoenix can disappear and reappear at will." - Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
@@Ranger1812 while that would explain it, the fact of the matter is that's not what happens in the books, this is a movie-specific change, in the books they go via Hogsmeade. Where the books and movie differ in details the books take over as primary canon unless the author explicitly states it's a retcon. Regardless, even in the movie it's not that he can apparate with the enchantments around the school, but the fact that as headmaster it's his responsibility to maintain those enchantments and that gives him authority to life said enchantments as he so wishes. Either way it's not that he has some magical ability that makes him exempt from the protections.
1. each phoenix only gives 1 feather, which is why fawkes is special, he gave two. 2. people rarely use floo powder to enter hogwarts because the floor powder department has to be informed ahead of time about the initial and final locations. they mention multiple times in the books that they have to "connect" the fireplaces before they can travel. Sirius was able to use face-floo transport, bcoz my theory is that Dumbledore had all the fireplaces in Hogwarts connected to the OOTP headquarters. A lot of holes in today's theory, but I think the core of it is correct. Maybe you only need a little bit of phoenix ash, mixed with other things that also turn fires green(phoenix fire is gold)
Okay, but in the GoF the Grimuald Place is not the headquarters of OOtP yet and Sirius is in fact breaking into people's houses if my memory serves me well. But definitely not at GP12 yet. And I think most of the chimneys are connected permanently, Arthur only said about time period because that was special request - connection to a muggle house.
It's true, but the only microscopes I can imagine they have, it would be optic ones and those can't be use to detemine the composition of something. Even an electron microscope, that they wouldn't have because they need electricity and it's not like the magic community is very acquainted with its use, I don't think it would help in this case. More likely they would need something like a mass spectrometer and I'm pretty confident they don't have one of those either. And in any case, you would need to know the composition of phoenix ashes first, so you can compare... I'm thinking something like a potion would be a better option here. I mean, if you have the suspicion that some product is present maybe you can do a potion that changes colour if that's the case On my, I'm such a Ravenclaw sometimes...
Can you imagine being some Gen-Z STEM kid who finds out you’re a wizard and suddenly you have this whole new world that’s literally never been scientifically studied? It would be WILD.
Kids don't attend Hogwarts till the age of 11/12 those who are muggle born would've had plenty of time to gain an interest in science, some of them could possibly also have had parent/parents who were scientists. So there could've been someone who used a microscope (don't know why but it's possible)
It could be that the floo-network in Hogwarts is only known by staff, something only the marauders found out about as students with Sirius later telling Harry about. But yeah, Phoenix ash is probably the key ingredient in the Floo-Powder recipe but not the whole thing, it’s most likely that a little goes a *long* way. It could even be that Floo-Pow has contracts with practically all the magic-folk who have ownership of phoenixes in the UK and/or Europe to provide the phoenix ash, which is otherwise useless without the rest of the recipe, with compensation of course. After all, there has to be a decent number of Phoenixes to provide their feathers as wand cores so it stands to reason that there are enough to provide ash for floo-powder, if the recipe only requires small amounts for a large batch.
If Olivender makes wands with only one phoenix and according to Hermione everyone bought their wands from Olivender it means that if two people with a phoenix wand fought each other what would cause a priori incantam even though according to Dumbledore this is a very rare phenomenon
So my joke on one of your other vids about Olivander having a supply of Phoenixes chained up in the back room may have actually been more accurate then intended?
For real one of the best videos because of all the rain delays. Shows the real work challenges for this occupation. Still gotta do what you gotta do. And ya'll killed it. Kudos.
We actually know what happens when you try to Apparate or Disapparate where you're not allowed to do so. The Golden Trio does that when they try to Disapparate from Hogsmead (to flee from Death Eaters) but they can't because Death Eaters have cast some spells as soon as they enter Hogsmead. *The Missing Mirror, Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows:* _"The air through which they needed to move seemed to have become solid: They could not Disapparate; the Death Eaters had cast their charms well."_
Anyone eve realize that every year we are introduced to one new form of transportation before Harry gets to hogwarts and usually it is useful in that book: 1: the hogwarts express and hayride motor bike 2: floo powder and the weasleys car (saves them from aragog) 3: the knight bus (choo’ fell over for?!) 4: portkey (literally the entire plot) 5: broomsticks (technically we already knew about them, but we never saw them used as transportation) 6: apparating (very useful in deathly hallows 7: all of the modes of transportation are used in the battle of the seven potters before the real plot starts.
Don't forget about thestrals for OOTP, slightly clearer than broomsticks. Then of course there's hippogriff.. They really do have a lot of ways of getting around.. 🤔
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And now I’ve also got this horrible image in my head of someone sitting at the Floo shop with a Phoenix all day, Avada Kadavra! Boom, flames and baby Phoenix and floo powder. How many more bottles we need today? About 1000? Avada Kadavera! Avada Kadavera! Avada Kadavera! 🔥💨🐣 Poor baby Phoenix would never get to grow up…you guys made this sad thought possible….😢
I hadn't thought about that, it would certainly make more sense productionwise... though I agree with you, poor baby Phoenix =( Avada Kedavra might also explain why floo powder makes the flames green.
I guess a fandom's creativity knows no bounds. You two went from zero to 100 real quick! Considering the Wizarding World's care for Fantastic Beasts, it is possible though.
@@BloodMixedWithBeer "Fawkes swooped down in front of Dumbledore, opened his beak wide, and swallowed the jet of green light whole. He burst into flame and fell to the floor, small, wrinkled, and flightless." Just reborn.
Maybe people have thought of using phoenix feathers but there’s one other small ingredient that is unknown that is used to make flo powder so that’s why nobody has ever made it. Or the fidalieus charm
I thought for a bit that if you took even a little bit of the ashes then the phoenix wouldn't be reborn from them. But watching the clip of fawks being reborn, they're a whole baby phoenix with a pile of spare ash surrounding them. So makes sense
We also know that some phoenixes follow families around, like the Dumbledores in Fantastic Beasts, so the same Phoenix could stick to the Olivander family for thousands of years
Nice theory. This reminds me that there's a great HP fanfic that tries to explain some of this unanswered questions, Albus Potter and the global revelation it's the first installment.
I love how the videos are only like one-fourth of the time explaining the actual theory, and the rest of it is just raising interesting questions that they will probably explain in future videos.
I love these theories! Amazing how you can come up with the out of the box ideas! Quick question though: if Ollivander has his own Phoenix, would that mean that all those Phoenix feathers come from one bird and everyone has a brotherwand if they bought one? Or would you say that when a Phoenix burns to be reborn, the feathers would be different from the last bird?
I definitely agree, but I wouldn't say it would be obvious, teleportation isn't often mentioned as a phoenix ability, Dumbledore seems to be one of few who know about it. But I definitely agree there must be other ingredients in order to make the flames not burn, something to help actually choose the destination, and whatever makes it green.
@@buskerfan Yep. And whatever turns it green is a safety precaution to stop you from jumping into a regular fire. There has to be a directional spell or ingredient, something that can recognize words , etc. Although I wonder if the precise pronunciation thing is only if you dont know where your going, and is otherwise based on your desire. There are a million different accents in the world and "dyahgonilly" isnt even close to being one of the hardest to understand. And lots of the variations come from that part of the world. It must have been a combo. The imprecise wording plus the desire to visit a magical shopping district that brought him to nockturn. The magic wasnt 100% effective and just got him close to what it thought he wanted. Huh. Thanks for the discussion, I've been wondering about that for ages now!
Copper Sulfate. It turns fire green when thrown in and was first discovered back in the 13th century, would make sense for alchemical wizards to discover it. Maybe some powdered dragon scales for fire protection, if Olivander is getting feathers from them they could probably ask for dragon scales from all his heartstring orders. And all you're using a pinch of Floo powder to travel so it doesn't need much of each.
The Hogwarts express travels at least 6 times a year. We know the students take the train home for Christmas, since that is when and where Luna was taken in book 7. We also know that some student go home during the easter, and we can properly expect them to take the train there as well
Thank you so much for putting a timer in the bottom for the ad. It's not that I don't want to support the channel, but most if not all of the ads are only available in the US.
I've always wondered Harry never got his apperation license because when he turns 17 Voldemort is after him so he never takes his test. Please please please explain this to me
He probably took the test after the seventh book. He learned how to apparate from an extra Hogwarts course in his sixth year, and you only need the license to legally apparate (And seeing how many illegal things he did in the seventh book, I think that was the least of his worries).
@@ruchikhera7013 but that doesn't make a lot of sense either cause you wouldn't wanna grab someone else's port key and end up in the wrong end of the country..
@@MrEscape314 the ministry ppl were making portkeys for the destination they came...for example the Weasley party went back to the hill but it WASNT by the old boot
@@MrEscape314 But wouldn’t it not matter what country you port to cause it wouldn’t be there with the death eaters plus you could then just apparate home once you were able to
How about some secretive loner like Scamander knowing the location of a wild phoenix colony? Collect ashes and feathers and deliver to Olivander and Floopow.
The Phoenix theory for floo adds up, but not for olivander. He works with three core types specifically and one is Phoenix feather. Also we know that a Phoenix doesn't usually give more than one feather. So there has to be a huge amount of untamed Phoenixs running around. Or it's a dark answer, they have a Phoenix caged in their offices and they use avada kadavera on it to force it to produce ashes. And when a Phoenix is reborn is it still technically the same Phoenix or has it's mentality changed somewhat making it able to gift another feather after each molting.
@@rachelzahava8292 I think cooling it down might not be the thing in this scenario. Since Dumbledore used the phoenix itself to teleport and didn't get burnt, I'd say the phoenix flames are already cool enough to travel. However you do have a point since it has to also react with a preexisting flame.
I'm not even a minute in, and I'm already excited. Why? Since I got the cat bus reference. 😎 Edit: There's actaully three tamed pheonixes; Fawkes, the mascot, and Bob, who is sitting right behind you, J!
I'm not sure if I just didn't catch you say it or if anyone else said it yet, but your theory could also lead to Olivanders owning Floo-Pow. Since no one answers their door, that could mean they're off doing more important things. Like, maybe making wands. And since they'd only just need to be collecting the ashes, they could totally just have a simple charm to do that for them while they're doing whatever else.
I mean, wouldn’t there be way more brother wands if Olivander had his own Phoenix? I mean, with the Unicorn tail hair, Olivander actually says that he goes out and grabs them himself, giving a story of him almost getting kicked to death by one. These creatures love purity and distrust men almost to a fault, especially after they are not virgins and whatever you can say about Olivander, he is undeniably a creepy old man and I can not picture him being pure. The fact that he can get the unicorn hair himself more likely means that he goes out into the wild and harvests all the ingredients for his wands now while I do believe that the floo powder has at least some Phoenix ash in it, what would make more sense is that Olivander and the “Floo Pow” people know where Phoenix’s nest. A secret area few know about and they go there to collect either the tail feathers or the ash.
I don't know if he's necessarily creepy in the books, more like wands are his special interest. I doubt [redacted] knew or intended to write a nuerodivergent character, but he really might be. He was very kind to Luna after all, not at all creepy.
But i dont think Olivander has a phoenix, for one thing every single phoenix core wand would be made from the same phoenix, making all of them twin cores, which is a pretty rare thing, and we have seen olivander get phoenix cores from other sources, like fawkes
I’m gonna get a lot of folks come get me for this comment, but it could be elf ashes! They can travel in and out of Hogwarts too! I love the house elves, dont murder me people!
Floo Pow and Ollivander 's obviously have access to "Phoenix Nest". Where they can collect ashes, tears and feathers for the various kinds of uses that magical people have. Other ingredients are also included in making floo powder. There are different types of phoenixes too, so maybe the by-products of the different types create different effects.
"just two sickles a scoop... or as I like to think of it 11,7% of a galleon" Oh look, an American complaining about a measuring unit not being decimal-based... you know... like the metric system XD
He isn't complaining that it isn't decimal, but that the numbers used in the system (17 and 39) are really weird. Something like 12 (as in the number of inches in a foot), on the other hand, would work nicely because, unlike a decimal-based system, it can be easily divided into thirds.
@@SgtSupaman I have to use my hands to multiply by 9s...and I have to break things up into increments to do a lot of other simple multiplication, I would never get hired as a shop clerk in the wizarding world lol. Then again, I also think the penny is useless, but that's because it cost 3× more than it's worth to make!
You need to do one on the two way mirror in the order of the Phoenix. The plot device is messy but needed. You have Harry who says he will never open the package at Christmas but why doesn’t Sirius tell Harry immediately in the fire of umbridges office: “hey just use the mirror I got you!” - instead he lets Harry talk on. This mirror would have saved Sirius life - so I feel like (1) Rowling used it to compound the tragedy or (2) she herself forgot about it.
This theory is quite likely, but consider this. Harry’s and Voldemort’s wands have a connection because the tail feather cores come from the same phoenix. But if they have a tamed phoenix, the tail feathers would all come FROM THE SAME PHOENIX. Therefore, every single one of ollivander’s phoenix feather wands would all be interlinked, and I think people would have noticed if that was the case.
Floo powder yes, makes perfect sense and thank you for answering a question I never even thought to ask, and raising yet more plot holes of these hilarious books. Ollivander though, no, I believe he has to have some other way to track down phoenix's and collect their feathers from nests, and it must be different ones, because otherwise every wand in his shop with a phoenix core wouldn't be able to duel each other and that's not good selling merch.
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I seriously wasn't expecting to hear "Maleficent invented Floo Powder" when I clicked on this video, but I certainly wasn't disappointed.
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I'd believe, cause fairytales are the essential folk of magic. If vampires and warewolves exist (which I dont know why voldy didnt approach a vampire for immortality) then so can others.... I wonder if fae's are most powerful, since any story that has magic in it, mentions faes as the origin of magic
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I thought the Phoenix reborn after bursting into flames would be leading to a morbid theory of how Floo Powder works. It burns the original person to death while simultaneously recreating the same person in the destination they are going to.
Sounds right to me.
Or they just constantly burn a caged phoenix alive, therefore killing it, or at least burning its feathers, and collecting the ashes. And since the phoenix can't really die.....wow.
I mean that's how teleportation would work if it was a thing.
I mean- mayyybe
When reading about Harry's experience, it talks about sliding around through the flu and not missing your exit. Sadly, doesn't sound very much like the popular concept of teleportation.
Your theories are so convincing, that I sometimes don't even remember whether I know things from the books or your videos.
Ikr
Soooo true hahah
Same lol
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Always mix them up it's a serious problem
For the record, the true purpose of "can't apparate without a license" is likely to have the fines cover the cost of the healers that need to fix idiots who don't know how to and splynch themselves
Absolutely yeah. And those who end up in front of muggles and need to get the ministry to clean that mess up.
Yeah, that's it
Yeah doesn't Harry apparate thru out the 7th book without his license.
@@lordvanilla8075 can't remember exactly (been a while since I read the books) but isn't that mostly side along apparition?
Real talk: Shouldn't you need a license to fly a broom tho???
I swear you can tell me literally anything and I’ll believe it lol
Haha glad you enjoy the vids!
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SCB: Ginny was a shared hallucination between Molly, Arthur, and Ron
Everyone: Yes definitely I believe you
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@@thesilverprincess ...but then that means that Harry also hallucinations her, meaning that he went from sleeping under a staircase to having an imaginary girlfriend, who he upgraded to an imaginary wife...and all of his children are also hallucinations.
...at that point you might as well say that the last chapter of the last book is Harry wearing a straight jacket inside a padded room in the mental hospital. His entire time at Hogwarts was just a delusion.
...oh Harry went to a boarding school, just a non-magical one, and Hermione, Ron, and all of their family members were just figments of Harry's imagination.
Harry's aunt and uncle really did mean it when they said that the boy wasn't well.
It seems that Harry was teased, picked on, and abused by both his family at home, as well as the other students at school...so much so that he locked himself away inside his own imagination.
They don’t answer the door because the entrance is through their fireplace
Or because they’re busy with their second business making and selling wands maybe...
That makes so much sense tho lol
When you're the only show in town, why bother with customer support?
@@cmschelling And on the other side another store that cells healing liquid.
It's quite likely that Dumbledore arranged for the fireplace in the Gryffindor Common Room to be connected to the Floo Network after book 3 so that Sirius could communicate to Harry. That way he couldn't just use it to get in during book 3 but he can use it in later books.
Yeaaaa that’s what I was thinking
This is my head canon!
But Dumbledore thought Sirius was guilty during that time, doesn't make sense to give a murderous criminal access to the chosen one.
@@jjbarajas5341 Dumbledore knew Sirius was innocent at the end of book 3, after which he could have arranged the connection, hence the connection didn't exist when Dumbledore didn't know Sirius was innocent.
I think it also makes sense that it can be connected only for calling and not for jumping through. Wasn't the transporting to and from Hogwarts they mentioned specifically to be connected just for the a short time over the holidays?
It genuinely amazes and delights me you're still coming up with new Harry Potter theories that actually make sense
Your theories are more canon than Cursed Child
Cursed Child isn't canon?
@@aWildKITsune I mean, technically JK said it was but it's generally not considered to be canon in the community
@@aWildKITsune watch their vid about it
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Then again, a lot of things are
Mini-theory - I bet you a House Elf would have been ordered to try the "phone service" trick with Floo Powder before a wizard did it themselves.
Just thought of all the decapitated elves at Grimmauld Place 😬
@@emilycurtis4398 Yeah. Wouldn't be surprised if it was the Black family that figured out the function as well.
Which would make sense since Sirius is the first to do in the series.
Wouldn't be surprised.
House elves have their own powerful magic, they can apparate in and out of Hogwarts, which makes me think if one were to take the Phoenix feather theory in a grimmer direction some elven component might also be an ingredient to the Floo powder.
@@ithinkihadeight Seems unlikely. House Elves are a limited resource. Phoenix ashes are not.
"why does the price change on anything ever, scarcity" well i mean if you control the whole supply scarcity is kinda dictated by you after a certain point, so demand is the biggest thing here: guess 2 sickles is just what they've determined they can charge before people go for other magical transportation methods.
That actually makes more sense. After all, while the number of phoenixes is constant, the wizard population isn't. That, alone, should affect demand and price. I can see it being low in Harry's time since a lot of people in their prime died young in the previous generation, which reduced the birth rate.
It could also be subsides by the ministry
Right. The demand is mitigated by other forms of transportation available. If floo powder becomes more expensive, people with fly on brooms or apparate or use portkeys or the knight bus or ride thestrals or hippogryphs or flying motorcycles or flying cars or whatever. And floo powder is limited by only allowing transportation from one fireplace to another. If you want to go somewhere without a fireplace, you have to use something else.
It's an agreement with the phoenix breeding Guild. (They have to be bred to regenerate more often than usual.) And it can't be broken or renegotiated, because magic.
It's probably some kind of government regulation that they can't charge more than 2 sickles. It's probably considered an essential commodity so the government wants to keep the price down.
You can’t imagine how inconvenient travel was before I invented Floo Powder.
Me: Does a magical substance need a secret ingredient?
Me: Eh he'll probably convince me anyway
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Why wouldn't it? People really don't understand magic. It's doesn't mean anything can do anything. Obviously. That's why their are various spells, and ingridients in potions, and artefacts to do certain things.
They always do
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Interesting point this raises: if Ollivander’s has been using the same phoenix for all this time, doesn’t that mean that a 3rd for the wands in Britain share the same core and are brothers?
Not a third, it is said that phoenix feathers are the rarest wand core, so there would be less phoenix wands than other types. But all of the ones that do exist would in fact be brothers if they used the same phoenix.
Phoenix wands are supposed to be very picky in choosing the wizard, so there probably isn't many of them in circulation. Plus the unique effect of twin wands not working properly only applies if the wands cast spells simultaneously against each other. This could also mean that many wands of other cores also have brothers.
I wonder if the feathers have to be from the same incarnation to be "brothers." That would significantly cut down on the matches as well.
I. E., if your core feather if from the phoenix's 1,745th lifetime, and your opponent's core feather came from the same phoenix but 3 regenerations later in the 1,748th 'life', maybe they wouldn't match up.
I was always confused about the twin core thing anyway, as being rare... how many hairs are in a single unicorn tail? Half of Hogwarts could have matching cores!
I think that it goes beyond just the cores.
The only known instances of the Twin cores phenomenon Harry/Voldemort in the Graveyard duel and the Boot brothers in their fight against Gormlaith.
In both cases the concerned parties have extremely close ties, The Boots are brothers fighting alongside each other so their wands magnified each other.
Whereas Harry and Voldemort by that time share Lilly's protective charm and part of Voldemort's soul. They were fighting against each other so their wands did likewise.
@@leefontaine2934 I mean, a unicorn can certainly donate more than one hair from its tail. If you're gonna sneak up on the thing and risk being gored, might as well grab a bunch.
I love supercarlinbrothers' theories, especially the ones about the wizarding world
yeah, kinda wish they had separate channels for the other content, so I could have notifications for Harry Potter and watch the other stuff when I feel like it
SAME. They’re so awesome and their theories are all really good
Okay, here's the thing: if it was Phoenix ash, they wouldn't need to keep that fact secret. Having your own Phoenix is really rare, and there's probably some alchemical weirdness that has to happen , which their infrastructure would allow them to make most cheaply. I think that the key is how fast the fire consumes the user.
The fire doesn't hurt the user, which to me indicates some protective or healing magic. Easy enough, if you have a phoenix, you have their tears. Treat the ashes with the tears and some complex spells to enhance the particular effects of those ingredients, and you're good - except you just have inter ash at this point. You ever try to light ashes on fire? It's not easy. They need to add an ingredient that can burn, instantly, in any condition. This is the big secret. And this is why the flames are green, when phoenix flames are orange. They aren't hiding the ingredient just from competition. They're hiding it from the law - specifically from the Misuse of Muggle Artefacts Office. They're using muggle-made firestarters! That's how the flame pops up so fast, why it's green, where most of the sheer mass of the powder comes from *and* why Arthur was able to get the Dursleys house hooked up to the network! Think of it - Arthur looks and seems like a spineless simpleton, but he readily stands up to bullies like the Malfoys and he's definitely a lot smarter than he seems. Doubtless he would have found out about firestarters and wondered about them. Maybe he lit one, maybe with some of the plastic packaging still on it, and saw the various colors of flame? Maybe he put two and two together? Maybe he happened to know of some aspects of magic that would enhance the effectiveness of muggle chemical products, through some of his investigations? Maybe he showed up at the Floo Network Authority's office and asked to speak to their liason to Floo-Pow. Maybe he confronted them with this evidence. Maybe he said something like, "now, I'd hate for this kind of thing to get out - it'd throw half of the magical world into chaos! But I have personal responsibilities, you know. And if you could help those along, I could much more easily keep this quiet. You know, for the good of the magical world."
I love the theory, that Arthur is secretly pulling some strings
Oh my god this is amazing!
Seems very plausible
what about it also needs Malificent tears or sweat or blood and she is held in a secret dungeon, and the extra secret ingredient to make the fire green. Or Malificent is actualy still making the powder herself with her own blood/sweat/tears. thats why nobody can recreate it
that made soo much sense
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Yes I can, because it's raining where I live right now 😂
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J, Ollivander didn't just make two, there was a small instance in Philosopher's Stone where he gives a maple and phoenix feather wand for Harry to try out. Ollivander only sold two because only two people were compatible to a phoenix feather wand.
Here's a subject for one of your videos: Taboo, why doesn't the ministry set a taboo on the unforgivable curses? Aurors would be able to catch anyone attempting to use it if they say it out loud.
That's a really good question! But I believe the answer could be something along the lines of you can't set taboos on spells as they are not technically words, but magical commands (as you can do the spell without saying anything too). Then again, they could have certainly set a taboo on words like the Dark Lord, that would have busted all death eaters pretty fast...
I like the idea that the Taboo is not magic that many people are able to do, it was certainly presented as something very impressive that Voldemort had achieved. I think it was more an example of how powerful and skilled a wizard Voldemort was, that he set a Taboo on his name, and wasn’t something the ministry would’ve even been able to do
@@macattackk I agree here, especially after considering Fred and George's declaration that most members of the ministry weren't even capable of a proper Shield Charm. Voldy is definitely a cut above the average wizard, being able to do things like jinx the CONCEPT of Defense Against the Dark Arts (and Halloween as well, if we're assuming a different Carlin Brothers theory to be accurate :P). I sincerely doubt there's an actual spell to accomplish this, and that it was more just raw desire mixed with his immense magical talent.
@@riluna3695 yeh, I think the taboo was an incredibly complicated piece of magic to perform. And it doesn’t just alert him to their presence but actually provides all his death eaters with the culprits precise location and also breaks any magical enchantments and protections in their local area. An incredible magical feat by Voldemort really.
As far as the ministry being inept I imagine Fred and George were just referring to the average employer who works in desk duty, I feel like the wizards who work in magical law enforcement on active duty would’ve been highly proficient, but again I doubt anyone else of the time besides Voldemort (and possibly Dumbledore) would’ve realistically been capable of performing such a magical feat. At least that’s how I read into it
I think it was an original piece of magic. The ministry couldnt do it because it hadn't been invented yet. Not to mention bureaucracy and ineptitude would prevent them from coming up with the idea themselves. We all know how much institutions hate new ideas. Galileo probably knows best though.
Edit: and for more recent examples, MLK, JFK, and Bernie Sanders.
Wow! What a nice theory! Hope they don't torture the phoenix to death each week. Maybe that's why they never open the doors?
Reminds me of the Japanese light novel/manga Lazy Dungeon Master. He gets his hands on a phoenix egg, and learns that phoenix eggshell has great refractory/fire resistance abilities. He immediately sets a golem to constantly throw the egg against a wall.
They must have hundreths of them to be able to supply global demand.
I don't think Floo Powder is *just* Phoenix Ashes, but I do think it's an important ingredient.
I agree. It is probably the most important ingredient but not the only one. It’s too cheap to be only Phoenix ashes
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I think the ashes are also enchanted in some way using Phoenix tears to make sure that you don't burn yourself while flooing
Definitely, otherwise I feel like there would be a moment in the series where somebody attempts this
My assumption is that it's a single/several very common ingredients combined with the Phoenix ashes, so the price still doesn't change
Maybe some form of plant due to the green colour? Or an ingredient that responds to the voice of a wizard
It would also explain why they don't run out of stock. If Floo Powder only contains, say, 5 grams of phoenix ashes per kilo, they should have plenty enough
the rain sounds so cozy, like having friends over to your house and just talking all day all night
The best thing about Harry Potter is the SuperCarlinBrothers videos on Harry Potter.
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Draco didn't use the floor network because the mystery was heavily monitoring it by then, meaning the sudden arrival of deatheaters at Hogwarts would've been tracked and treated with suspicion.
now this is a topic I had never even considered!
another idea :
IS the sword of Gryffindor his wand/could be used as his wand? (much like maybe hagrid's wand in the umberella or like olivander says, you could channel your magic through almost any object )
That’s such a fun theory i would to see them discuss it
No, because Hagrid has his broken pieces of wand from when they snapped it in the umbrella...
I’m pretty sure dumbledore fixed hagrids wand with the elder wand; like Harry did his own. Then hagrid made it into an umbrella.
@@lauracrabb7169 but it would still be the wand he uses then.. not another magical object? their point was if gryffindor used the sword. but the sword isnt a wand.
That would mean that Goblins made a wand, and they are forbidden from wand-lore.
Sirius is probably allowed to use the floo network in Hogwarts by Dumbledore, since they're both members of the Order. Would make since that Dumbledore is using Harry's most trusted source to pass on important information. Again, regardless of whether he's the "Most dangerous wizard alive as of the 4th book, his true intentions are already established and is likely valued highly by Dumbledore and permitted on the grounds even if it's just brief.
Wishing everyone watching this a great day!
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Thanks! I hope yours was fabulous as well
@@SuperCarlinBrothers I sing the 'More Theorys!'-Dance;
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i dance the 'More Theorys'-Song!
Na na.
People wonder.
Na na.
They wonder how i dance a song;
they wonder how i sing a Dance.
Na na. Na na.
@@SuperCarlinBrothers I sing the 'More Theorys!'-Dance;
na na;
i dance the 'More Theorys'-Song!
Na na.
People wonder.
Na na.
They wonder how i dance a song;
they wonder how i sing a Dance.
Na na. Na na.
I think after reading The Sorcerer's Stone again I remember Ollivander having a different phoenix feather wand that Harry actually tries before the wand he actually ends up with.
When Dumbledore travels with Fawkes from his office, I always understood that as Dumbledore turning the bird into an unregistered portkey.
No it’s side along apparition with a magical creature who can always apparate and disapparate at will.
I feel terrible for saying this, but my mind went to a dark place. They could just kill the thr Phoenix over and over to keep the ashes flowing. I'll see myself out...
The Phoenix could just leave if that was the case however. They can, for lack of a better word, teleport with no known restrictions, and thus, cages or other forms of entrapment wouldn’t have an effect.
@@apotterhead1 That's assuming there is no magic that can contain them.
@@Ninjamanhammer if magic could contain them, magic can keep them out. and if thats the case, it should work on the floo network as well. but as pointed out in the video, for some reason the floo network was never disabled for hogwarts, almost like they COULDNT block it. which means they also probably cant block a phoenix.
@@PirkotheDragon But it was disabled. Hogwarts was connected to the flu network only for transport during holidays, you couldn't just come or leave whenever you wanted to.
I am so glad he mentioned the extract of how Dumbledore left Hogwarts because I was convinced that Dumbledore had just walked out and the Phoenix was just a movie adaptation...
Gotta say i love the rain waiting music. So calming.
I would invent the smallest broom in the world. So small that you can’t see it and it looks like i am just flying.
That's probably what Voldie uses
@@FriendB 😂😂
But can you even sit on it?
Has that whole 'travel by phoenix' thing ever happened to anyone except Dumbledore? Because Dumbledore can apperate in Hogwarts, I always figured thats what he did in book 5, just with "style". I dunno, if that's a thing Fawkes could always do, it would have been much easier to get out of the chamber of secrets that way...
Dumbledore cannot apperate in or out of Hogwarts. The film got it wrong. They walked to Hogsmeade and disapperated from there.
@@julieaime4594 Dumbledore could remove the Anti-Apparition Charms - he did so so students could practice apparating in the Great Hall. When going to find the Horcrux, it was too convoluted and dangerous to have him and Harry have to return from Hogsmeade - he didn't know what condition they'd be in. He opened up an apparition window atop the Astronomy Tower as it was still in Hogwarts but was the most remote point, so if someone where to try to enter by apparition they wouldn't think to apparate to up there.
Dumbledore needed to remove the Anti-Apparition Charms in order to apparate within Hogwarts. Fawkes, using phoenix magic rather than wizard magic, could apparate inside Hogwarts so Dumbledore used his ability to do so to escape (not that he was in danger, of course). That is an ability of the phoenix: "Like the diricawl (see above), the phoenix can disappear and reappear at will." - Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them
@@Ranger1812 while that would explain it, the fact of the matter is that's not what happens in the books, this is a movie-specific change, in the books they go via Hogsmeade. Where the books and movie differ in details the books take over as primary canon unless the author explicitly states it's a retcon.
Regardless, even in the movie it's not that he can apparate with the enchantments around the school, but the fact that as headmaster it's his responsibility to maintain those enchantments and that gives him authority to life said enchantments as he so wishes. Either way it's not that he has some magical ability that makes him exempt from the protections.
@@DreadKyller I literally said that twice.
1. each phoenix only gives 1 feather, which is why fawkes is special, he gave two.
2. people rarely use floo powder to enter hogwarts because the floor powder department has to be informed ahead of time about the initial and final locations. they mention multiple times in the books that they have to "connect" the fireplaces before they can travel. Sirius was able to use face-floo transport, bcoz my theory is that Dumbledore had all the fireplaces in Hogwarts connected to the OOTP headquarters.
A lot of holes in today's theory, but I think the core of it is correct. Maybe you only need a little bit of phoenix ash, mixed with other things that also turn fires green(phoenix fire is gold)
Okay, but in the GoF the Grimuald Place is not the headquarters of OOtP yet and Sirius is in fact breaking into people's houses if my memory serves me well. But definitely not at GP12 yet.
And I think most of the chimneys are connected permanently, Arthur only said about time period because that was special request - connection to a muggle house.
And u can get sick
It's the opposite actually, Fawkes is special because he gave *only* two
If it *is* Maleficent, maybe she shape changes into a Phoenix.
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It's very unlikely but quite possible that wizards and witches have microscopes, don't forget that they use telescopes for astronomy
It's true, but the only microscopes I can imagine they have, it would be optic ones and those can't be use to detemine the composition of something. Even an electron microscope, that they wouldn't have because they need electricity and it's not like the magic community is very acquainted with its use, I don't think it would help in this case. More likely they would need something like a mass spectrometer and I'm pretty confident they don't have one of those either. And in any case, you would need to know the composition of phoenix ashes first, so you can compare... I'm thinking something like a potion would be a better option here. I mean, if you have the suspicion that some product is present maybe you can do a potion that changes colour if that's the case
On my, I'm such a Ravenclaw sometimes...
Can you imagine being some Gen-Z STEM kid who finds out you’re a wizard and suddenly you have this whole new world that’s literally never been scientifically studied? It would be WILD.
Kids don't attend Hogwarts till the age of 11/12 those who are muggle born would've had plenty of time to gain an interest in science, some of them could possibly also have had parent/parents who were scientists.
So there could've been someone who used a microscope (don't know why but it's possible)
@@422katieleigh that's essentially the premise of harry potter and the methods of rationality
It could be that the floo-network in Hogwarts is only known by staff, something only the marauders found out about as students with Sirius later telling Harry about.
But yeah, Phoenix ash is probably the key ingredient in the Floo-Powder recipe but not the whole thing, it’s most likely that a little goes a *long* way.
It could even be that Floo-Pow has contracts with practically all the magic-folk who have ownership of phoenixes in the UK and/or Europe to provide the phoenix ash, which is otherwise useless without the rest of the recipe, with compensation of course.
After all, there has to be a decent number of Phoenixes to provide their feathers as wand cores so it stands to reason that there are enough to provide ash for floo-powder, if the recipe only requires small amounts for a large batch.
How do you keep finding things to talk about in Harry Potter and make it interesting?
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If Olivender makes wands with only one phoenix and according to Hermione everyone bought their wands from Olivender it means that if two people with a phoenix wand fought each other what would cause a priori incantam even though according to Dumbledore this is a very rare phenomenon
So my joke on one of your other vids about Olivander having a supply of Phoenixes chained up in the back room may have actually been more accurate then intended?
For real one of the best videos because of all the rain delays. Shows the real work challenges for this occupation.
Still gotta do what you gotta do. And ya'll killed it. Kudos.
would using the spell "Specialis Revelio" (Ernie M used this in Potions in book 6) reveal what ae the ingredients in Floo Powder?
We actually know what happens when you try to Apparate or Disapparate where you're not allowed to do so. The Golden Trio does that when they try to Disapparate from Hogsmead (to flee from Death Eaters) but they can't because Death Eaters have cast some spells as soon as they enter Hogsmead.
*The Missing Mirror, Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows:*
_"The air through which they needed to move seemed to have become solid: They could not Disapparate; the Death Eaters had cast their charms well."_
I couldn’t tell if the rain was irl or the video. It was both.
Anyone eve realize that every year we are introduced to one new form of transportation before Harry gets to hogwarts and usually it is useful in that book:
1: the hogwarts express and hayride motor bike
2: floo powder and the weasleys car (saves them from aragog)
3: the knight bus (choo’ fell over for?!)
4: portkey (literally the entire plot)
5: broomsticks (technically we already knew about them, but we never saw them used as transportation)
6: apparating (very useful in deathly hallows
7: all of the modes of transportation are used in the battle of the seven potters before the real plot starts.
Don't forget about thestrals for OOTP, slightly clearer than broomsticks. Then of course there's hippogriff.. They really do have a lot of ways of getting around.. 🤔
@@MrEscape314 yeah but they aren’t introduced in the pre hogwarts chapters
@@funnydude3071 thank you for the clarification. I missed the before point and you are right on.
@@MrEscape314 😀
I already believe them with this theory, I would trust the Super Carlin Bros with my life lol
I gotta say that this is the first time I have noticed the sponsor duration bar at the bottom and OMG WHY DOES NO ONE ELSE DO THIS it is so helpful if your just trying to skip through the sponsorship.
I can just imagine the owners of Flo-Pow mass murdering Phoenixes just to collect their ashes ...
I'm convinced... Makes total sense to me... I love your theories and how dedicated you and ben are. Keep up the good work.
And now I’ve also got this horrible image in my head of someone sitting at the Floo shop with a Phoenix all day, Avada Kadavra! Boom, flames and baby Phoenix and floo powder.
How many more bottles we need today? About 1000? Avada Kadavera! Avada Kadavera! Avada Kadavera! 🔥💨🐣
Poor baby Phoenix would never get to grow up…you guys made this sad thought possible….😢
I hadn't thought about that, it would certainly make more sense productionwise... though I agree with you, poor baby Phoenix =(
Avada Kedavra might also explain why floo powder makes the flames green.
I guess a fandom's creativity knows no bounds. You two went from zero to 100 real quick!
Considering the Wizarding World's care for Fantastic Beasts, it is possible though.
@@SleeeperAgent I'd definitely guess that was the original method, but probably over time they probably stopped and just added green pigment.
I thought Avada killed faux and he never came back to life
@@BloodMixedWithBeer "Fawkes swooped down in front of Dumbledore, opened his beak wide, and swallowed the jet of green light whole. He burst into flame and fell to the floor, small, wrinkled, and flightless."
Just reborn.
Maybe people have thought of using phoenix feathers but there’s one other small ingredient that is unknown that is used to make flo powder so that’s why nobody has ever made it. Or the fidalieus charm
Haven’t read Harry Potter in awhile but always love the theories keep it up guys👍
I thought for a bit that if you took even a little bit of the ashes then the phoenix wouldn't be reborn from them. But watching the clip of fawks being reborn, they're a whole baby phoenix with a pile of spare ash surrounding them. So makes sense
We also know that some phoenixes follow families around, like the Dumbledores in Fantastic Beasts, so the same Phoenix could stick to the Olivander family for thousands of years
Nice theory. This reminds me that there's a great HP fanfic that tries to explain some of this unanswered questions, Albus Potter and the global revelation it's the first installment.
The ingredient is pixie dust
Obviously
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Oh my god
It's the element of suprise
@@SuperCarlinBrothers I love your theories
Maybe Olivander’s is buying phoenix tail feathers from floo pow’s phoenix, so that is how they are able to stay afloat with those prices
I hope SCB never makes a video titled "Why you owe us money!" because it will be so convincing I just had to pay them.
I love how the videos are only like one-fourth of the time explaining the actual theory, and the rest of it is just raising interesting questions that they will probably explain in future videos.
Audible needs to be pay J to narrate the harry potter books he sounds great when reading from it.
I would pay a million dollars 4 that
Yes! And his voices are spot on and so much fun. I'm so here for this idea
I would buy that. Now if someone could edit what we already have together...
He would definitely sound great. But Jim dale is a lot to live up too
British book, not having a American narrate it
I love these theories! Amazing how you can come up with the out of the box ideas! Quick question though: if Ollivander has his own Phoenix, would that mean that all those Phoenix feathers come from one bird and everyone has a brotherwand if they bought one? Or would you say that when a Phoenix burns to be reborn, the feathers would be different from the last bird?
I'm Pretty Sure That When Harry Returns By Flo Powder Its Said That It Was Set Up So They Could Do It On That Specific Day.
I heard the rain before the intro music, and thought it was a slow build to the theme I've never heard/noticed before!
applause to all the SCB fans who got here early enough to be thoroughly convinced of another bizarre idea
1:07 - Kudos to the editor who managed that bit.
I think it’s an ingredient but not the only ingredient. Otherwise wouldn’t it be obvious? Plus they would need a lot of Phoenix ashes
I definitely agree, but I wouldn't say it would be obvious, teleportation isn't often mentioned as a phoenix ability, Dumbledore seems to be one of few who know about it. But I definitely agree there must be other ingredients in order to make the flames not burn, something to help actually choose the destination, and whatever makes it green.
i'd expect it's pheonix ash cut with something else (a copper alloy of some sort?) that serves to enhance the flames and protect the user?
Phoenix ashes is probably super potent you only need a pinch per like a 10lbs batch
@@buskerfan Yep. And whatever turns it green is a safety precaution to stop you from jumping into a regular fire. There has to be a directional spell or ingredient, something that can recognize words , etc.
Although I wonder if the precise pronunciation thing is only if you dont know where your going, and is otherwise based on your desire. There are a million different accents in the world and "dyahgonilly" isnt even close to being one of the hardest to understand. And lots of the variations come from that part of the world.
It must have been a combo. The imprecise wording plus the desire to visit a magical shopping district that brought him to nockturn. The magic wasnt 100% effective and just got him close to what it thought he wanted.
Huh. Thanks for the discussion, I've been wondering about that for ages now!
Copper Sulfate. It turns fire green when thrown in and was first discovered back in the 13th century, would make sense for alchemical wizards to discover it. Maybe some powdered dragon scales for fire protection, if Olivander is getting feathers from them they could probably ask for dragon scales from all his heartstring orders. And all you're using a pinch of Floo powder to travel so it doesn't need much of each.
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The Hogwarts express travels at least 6 times a year. We know the students take the train home for Christmas, since that is when and where Luna was taken in book 7. We also know that some student go home during the easter, and we can properly expect them to take the train there as well
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Here is a theory what if 2 patronuses hit each other. Like would it make a boom or you’ll they go through each other like ghosts?
I can imagine sketchy wizards having illegal patronus fight rings lol
@@haneuli428 yes that would be so funny 😂
@@haneuli428 I love this idea lol, although I imagine they would just go around each other, they seem to have a limited intelligence.
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I've always wondered Harry never got his apperation license because when he turns 17 Voldemort is after him so he never takes his test. Please please please explain this to me
He probably took the test after the seventh book. He learned how to apparate from an extra Hogwarts course in his sixth year, and you only need the license to legally apparate (And seeing how many illegal things he did in the seventh book, I think that was the least of his worries).
@@brickbot2.038 just always wondered
He apparated with Dumbledore from the cave to Hogsmede. I think he was 15 at the time. Maybe 16.
i actually love the rain in the background.great theory as usual guys!
Don’t all portkeys work twice? At the Quidditch Cup doesn’t Mr Weasley tell them to get back to the port key when the dementors attack?
I think he says that in the movie, in the book everyone runs into the woods.
@@brickbot2.038 ya and then the next day early morning they leave when everyone was fighting to get a portkey
@@ruchikhera7013 but that doesn't make a lot of sense either cause you wouldn't wanna grab someone else's port key and end up in the wrong end of the country..
@@MrEscape314 the ministry ppl were making portkeys for the destination they came...for example the Weasley party went back to the hill but it WASNT by the old boot
@@MrEscape314 But wouldn’t it not matter what country you port to cause it wouldn’t be there with the death eaters plus you could then just apparate home once you were able to
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I have a question: Do you think house elves are allowed to do laundry for their masters? It would technically be giving them clothes.
I don't think it's a problem because the clothes wouldn't be handed to them, they'd be in a pile in a hamper
I love how they could have edited the rain parts out and we wouldn't know anything but they choce to share this little detail with us
I’ve been waiting for this…
How about some secretive loner like Scamander knowing the location of a wild phoenix colony? Collect ashes and feathers and deliver to Olivander and Floopow.
0:15 you been watching My Neighbor Totoro? That's the knightbus....
Don't really need a microscope when all you have to do is wave your wand and cast the spell "Embigulate!"
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The Phoenix theory for floo adds up, but not for olivander. He works with three core types specifically and one is Phoenix feather. Also we know that a Phoenix doesn't usually give more than one feather. So there has to be a huge amount of untamed Phoenixs running around.
Or it's a dark answer, they have a Phoenix caged in their offices and they use avada kadavera on it to force it to produce ashes. And when a Phoenix is reborn is it still technically the same Phoenix or has it's mentality changed somewhat making it able to gift another feather after each molting.
Seems plausible, only one question: Why does it turn the flames green ?
My theory is it's an additive used as a safety precaution. You can tell that it is real floo powder and that it hasn't gone bad.
Probably they need the Phoenix ash to make the powder but also some other ingredient to cool the fire and that’s what turns the flames green
@@rosemali3022 That does make more sense
@@rachelzahava8292 I think cooling it down might not be the thing in this scenario. Since Dumbledore used the phoenix itself to teleport and didn't get burnt, I'd say the phoenix flames are already cool enough to travel. However you do have a point since it has to also react with a preexisting flame.
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I'm not even a minute in, and I'm already excited. Why? Since I got the cat bus reference. 😎
Edit: There's actaully three tamed pheonixes; Fawkes, the mascot, and Bob, who is sitting right behind you, J!
Mr Bob is not tame he is a madman
@@ezrapaul6808 Fair point! I mean, just look at him plotting J and Ben's murder in the background!
I honestly didn’t mind hearing the rain. It’s better than some other background noise I’ve heard for RUclips vids
The last time I was this quick, Chudley Cannon had won the cup.
I'm not sure if I just didn't catch you say it or if anyone else said it yet, but your theory could also lead to Olivanders owning Floo-Pow. Since no one answers their door, that could mean they're off doing more important things. Like, maybe making wands. And since they'd only just need to be collecting the ashes, they could totally just have a simple charm to do that for them while they're doing whatever else.
I mean, wouldn’t there be way more brother wands if Olivander had his own Phoenix? I mean, with the Unicorn tail hair, Olivander actually says that he goes out and grabs them himself, giving a story of him almost getting kicked to death by one. These creatures love purity and distrust men almost to a fault, especially after they are not virgins and whatever you can say about Olivander, he is undeniably a creepy old man and I can not picture him being pure. The fact that he can get the unicorn hair himself more likely means that he goes out into the wild and harvests all the ingredients for his wands now while I do believe that the floo powder has at least some Phoenix ash in it, what would make more sense is that Olivander and the “Floo Pow” people know where Phoenix’s nest. A secret area few know about and they go there to collect either the tail feathers or the ash.
I think it's likely the Floo Pow company owns several phoenixes and Ollivander has some sort of deal with them for feathers
I don't know if he's necessarily creepy in the books, more like wands are his special interest. I doubt [redacted] knew or intended to write a nuerodivergent character, but he really might be. He was very kind to Luna after all, not at all creepy.
I saw this somewhere else in the comments but what if feathers given in different incarnations of the same Phoenix don’t count as twin cores?
But i dont think Olivander has a phoenix, for one thing every single phoenix core wand would be made from the same phoenix, making all of them twin cores, which is a pretty rare thing, and we have seen olivander get phoenix cores from other sources, like fawkes
I’m gonna get a lot of folks come get me for this comment, but it could be elf ashes! They can travel in and out of Hogwarts too!
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Could be right tho. Maybe an off brand?
Floo Pow and Ollivander 's obviously have access to "Phoenix Nest". Where they can collect ashes, tears and feathers for the various kinds of uses that magical people have.
Other ingredients are also included in making floo powder.
There are different types of phoenixes too, so maybe the by-products of the different types create different effects.
"just two sickles a scoop... or as I like to think of it 11,7% of a galleon"
Oh look, an American complaining about a measuring unit not being decimal-based... you know... like the metric system XD
He isn't complaining that it isn't decimal, but that the numbers used in the system (17 and 39) are really weird. Something like 12 (as in the number of inches in a foot), on the other hand, would work nicely because, unlike a decimal-based system, it can be easily divided into thirds.
@@SgtSupaman I have to use my hands to multiply by 9s...and I have to break things up into increments to do a lot of other simple multiplication, I would never get hired as a shop clerk in the wizarding world lol. Then again, I also think the penny is useless, but that's because it cost 3× more than it's worth to make!
You need to do one on the two way mirror in the order of the Phoenix. The plot device is messy but needed. You have Harry who says he will never open the package at Christmas but why doesn’t Sirius tell Harry immediately in the fire of umbridges office: “hey just use the mirror I got you!” - instead he lets Harry talk on. This mirror would have saved Sirius life - so I feel like (1) Rowling used it to compound the tragedy or (2) she herself forgot about it.
This theory is quite likely, but consider this. Harry’s and Voldemort’s wands have a connection because the tail feather cores come from the same phoenix. But if they have a tamed phoenix, the tail feathers would all come FROM THE SAME PHOENIX. Therefore, every single one of ollivander’s phoenix feather wands would all be interlinked, and I think people would have noticed if that was the case.
Floo powder yes, makes perfect sense and thank you for answering a question I never even thought to ask, and raising yet more plot holes of these hilarious books.
Ollivander though, no, I believe he has to have some other way to track down phoenix's and collect their feathers from nests, and it must be different ones, because otherwise every wand in his shop with a phoenix core wouldn't be able to duel each other and that's not good selling merch.
You are now legally obligated to use that painted lady clip every time you say Sirius Black
You can send some of that rain my way.