There was a cheese build that worked very well back in Nyalotha. Haste stacking lightning build. With the CDR of Storm Elemental, you were able to spam Lightning Bolts like you were a machine gun. I think this is the route Blizz is going but instead with procing overloads & lightning rods instead.
I noticed you kinda reiterated what you replied to me with before. I hope I didn't come across as rude when I commented on your Totemic video before. I am, actually, upset at the Totemic tree and the Shaman trees in general, but to you directly I didn't mean my criticism to be harsh. I just meant it just plainly that I just noticed an inconsistency. So I hope you didn't take it the wrong way and thanks for clarifying. Good video btw
Oh no, I wasn't mad about anything you said. I agree the Totemic tree needs work. I think it can do damage in its current state, but absolutely needs some work for it to be considered a good tree. :)
Love the lightning stuff, but hate using spells that aren't lightning, it ruins the whole hero spec fantasy imo 😓 Really hope we get an option to have all our spells be lightning-y visually
ugh man that looks so fun even though I don' t plan on playing war within. But great to see good lightning ele action, I always get so upset every time I feel forced to focus on fire/lava burst.
It would be amazing to turn earthquake into a sort of thunderstorm. Still casting earthquake at this point just feels bad, i'd be fine with even just a visual rework to have the ground look electrified if they're concerned about a storm cloud cluterring the screen...
Looks like we are going to next 2 sets of gear again between the 2 hero trees, crit haste for stormbringer and mastery haste for the fire spec weve never gonna above 30% haste due to DRs
Cmon blizz, work on Shaman and make it use less buttons and be fun. We need more defs and some mobility on enhancement. Change ES effect to a storm pool when Stormbringer, make those spenders skills more Thunder and less Earth
@ZucoWoW im weighing the pros and cons of ele blast vs earth shock. I personally love es, but isnt the idea of this hero tree to spend as much maelstrom as possible in order to get tempest quicker? With elemental blast being much more expensive, wouldnt that be the best way to go? Allowing us faster tempest procs? Plus it give us random stat buff on hit.
Yeah I think there can be 2 approaches to the tree.. 1. As you say, spend more Maelstrom... As much as you can. Therefore take EB. Get more Tempest procs that way. 2. Cast more lightning bolts and overloaded lightning bolts and proc the capstone more often. Thus resulting in more Tempest procs. I think both ways can work.
The ELEMENTAL shaman has been my eyegasm ans favorite power fantasy since wow released... but its history has been painful. I don't want to be hype for this hero spec, altho it looks like a dream, out of fear. Pls pour some love into ele shamen. :(
On ST even with this tree it absolutely is. In AoE you don't have time, it's much better to press Chain Lightning. But yes, in ST, LB buffs the damage of your next ability, you weave it in.
I have a feeling Tempest will receive a slight tweak. The hero talent tree in general is pretty nice, but it has some small frustration points that are easily fixed without really messing with the overall design. The interaction with lightning bolt specifically is just not very practical. Lightning Bolt becomes Tempest (1) after spending 400 Maelstrom (2) every 3 strikes of Awakening Storms[5RPPM] and Lightning Bolt get buffed [Stormkeeper] every 50 seconds by Rolling Thunder. These are THREE unique, separate instances of modifications to our main filler spell that are NOT tracked by anything in the game. That means we will need external resources (weakauras) to track each of these. This is not great. It would be better if Tempest was it's own spell with it's own cooldown or if it interacted with a different ability such as Lava Burst since Lava Burst, in this Lightning Based fantasy, does not have a high priority, and would also just be nice to have another button to press for that Big spell, rather than pressing the same button as the filler.
@@abhaitdoonelemental blast works well with surge of power too, you ele blast and then lightning bolt and get a double overload, it’s really good. I like that zuco shows gameplay of specs, but he is clearly inexperienced in them for sure
Damn, what a boring stuff. Elemental shamans look like classic graphics and effects compared to warlocks and mages. They still using the effects from Cata and WoD.
“They’re going to work on it.”
I’ve been playing Elemental since TBC rework and I’ve been saying that ever since.
As a former resto shaman player, I feel you man
Lightning raining from the sky is visually satisfying
Reminds me of the Inquisitor in SWTOR, which is peak class fantasy
The visuals are great - but man, I need them to give shaman the talent rework before I commit. Especially as enhancement. 😮💨
gosh i hope it will be good i want to be an ele shaman who does lightning.
There was a cheese build that worked very well back in Nyalotha. Haste stacking lightning build. With the CDR of Storm Elemental, you were able to spam Lightning Bolts like you were a machine gun. I think this is the route Blizz is going but instead with procing overloads & lightning rods instead.
I noticed you kinda reiterated what you replied to me with before. I hope I didn't come across as rude when I commented on your Totemic video before. I am, actually, upset at the Totemic tree and the Shaman trees in general, but to you directly I didn't mean my criticism to be harsh. I just meant it just plainly that I just noticed an inconsistency. So I hope you didn't take it the wrong way and thanks for clarifying. Good video btw
Oh no, I wasn't mad about anything you said. I agree the Totemic tree needs work. I think it can do damage in its current state, but absolutely needs some work for it to be considered a good tree. :)
Love the lightning stuff, but hate using spells that aren't lightning, it ruins the whole hero spec fantasy imo 😓
Really hope we get an option to have all our spells be lightning-y visually
I don’t think they are going to let Tempest act like a lightneing bolt at this point
Its blizz so so who knows
@@Rudbeckbittenlol you have a point
Really enjoy class videos from delves as it shows how they play when not on just dummies
I'm a tank player but always had a passing interest in shammy and this looks fun
They only need to change for earthquake to be targetable. It's so annoying to place an on-ground-effect every single time
Just macro it on cursor
Seeing all the lightning is so satisfying
ugh man that looks so fun even though I don' t plan on playing war within. But great to see good lightning ele action, I always get so upset every time I feel forced to focus on fire/lava burst.
It would be amazing to turn earthquake into a sort of thunderstorm. Still casting earthquake at this point just feels bad, i'd be fine with even just a visual rework to have the ground look electrified if they're concerned about a storm cloud cluterring the screen...
Would love to see this run through with enhancement storm bringer. Awesome looking build
Looks like we are going to next 2 sets of gear again between the 2 hero trees, crit haste for stormbringer and mastery haste for the fire spec
weve never gonna above 30% haste due to DRs
Looks more appealing than the Farseer Hero Build
Man that's wicked !!! It's looks totally super fun and d loves will be my end game content..ty ty ty...
See you in the beta soon! Ele looks fun. looking forward to trying stormbringe in dungeons. Do you still use the fire skills on St?
Yes, 100%. Lava Burst buffs our next spell by 20% whenever we use it, so it's a big deal in ST. You don't need it in aoe as much.
Awesome Black Proto
Cmon blizz, work on Shaman and make it use less buttons and be fun. We need more defs and some mobility on enhancement. Change ES effect to a storm pool when Stormbringer, make those spenders skills more Thunder and less Earth
Would love to see you do a dungeon with this
Yep, I actually have a video coming tomorrow with this build in a dungeon. :)
@ZucoWoW im weighing the pros and cons of ele blast vs earth shock. I personally love es, but isnt the idea of this hero tree to spend as much maelstrom as possible in order to get tempest quicker? With elemental blast being much more expensive, wouldnt that be the best way to go? Allowing us faster tempest procs? Plus it give us random stat buff on hit.
Yeah I think there can be 2 approaches to the tree..
1. As you say, spend more Maelstrom... As much as you can. Therefore take EB. Get more Tempest procs that way.
2. Cast more lightning bolts and overloaded lightning bolts and proc the capstone more often. Thus resulting in more Tempest procs.
I think both ways can work.
The capstone is procs per minute I believe. No amount of additional mastery would improve it?
Where are you testing? I thought beta was Wednesday. Thanks for the vids.
I have the Alpha.
Looks nice but it cant compete with Mage , Shadow Priest and Warlock
The ELEMENTAL shaman has been my eyegasm ans favorite power fantasy since wow released... but its history has been painful. I don't want to be hype for this hero spec, altho it looks like a dream, out of fear.
Pls pour some love into ele shamen. :(
Tempest feels bad single target
True
Is it worth it to cast Meatballs still?
With Farseer I think it is
On ST even with this tree it absolutely is. In AoE you don't have time, it's much better to press Chain Lightning. But yes, in ST, LB buffs the damage of your next ability, you weave it in.
I have a feeling Tempest will receive a slight tweak. The hero talent tree in general is pretty nice, but it has some small frustration points that are easily fixed without really messing with the overall design. The interaction with lightning bolt specifically is just not very practical.
Lightning Bolt becomes Tempest (1) after spending 400 Maelstrom (2) every 3 strikes of Awakening Storms[5RPPM] and Lightning Bolt get buffed [Stormkeeper] every 50 seconds by Rolling Thunder. These are THREE unique, separate instances of modifications to our main filler spell that are NOT tracked by anything in the game. That means we will need external resources (weakauras) to track each of these. This is not great.
It would be better if Tempest was it's own spell with it's own cooldown or if it interacted with a different ability such as Lava Burst since Lava Burst, in this Lightning Based fantasy, does not have a high priority, and would also just be nice to have another button to press for that Big spell, rather than pressing the same button as the filler.
I absolutely agree, there are a few little frustrations that I hope they work on. As you say the overall design is solid, it just needs the polish.
Earthquake must be the worst spell in the game
i was getting excited for ele and then i saw primordial wave on your bar... i almost threw up im sorry i guess we just cant get rid of it can we
He doesn't even use prim wave, it's basically pointless, take ele blast and use that instead
@@markmoore4079 I was just about to say that. He don't even use PW, also Elemental Blast is a damn cool spell to use
@@abhaitdoonelemental blast works well with surge of power too, you ele blast and then lightning bolt and get a double overload, it’s really good. I like that zuco shows gameplay of specs, but he is clearly inexperienced in them for sure
@@markmoore4079 I agree!
Short answer is no
Damn, what a boring stuff. Elemental shamans look like classic graphics and effects compared to warlocks and mages. They still using the effects from Cata and WoD.